I thought you were complaining about a lot of petty useless stuff.... but then I realized your one of the few reviewers that actually tell us everything so we the viewers can decide what is good. With something of this cost, good on you for it too. Great review

Actually Tektronix has been building mixed domain oscilloscopes since the 60s. There are spectrum analyzer plug ins for the 500 series. Take a 556 (dual beam dual plug in scope), plug in an 1A4 (Y amplifier) and a 1L4 (4.2 GHz spectrum analyzer) and you have a fully independant spectrum analyzer AND time domain oscilloscope. In the 70s the 7000 series offered even more. :-) Obviously you cannot FFT certain points/areas in the time domain signal with those old devices but...hey, they have moved on since then.

Oh man I sympathize with these nitpicks! I use the MDO 3000 series regularly at my university. The interface is cramped, badly laid out, but powerful. My biggest complaint is the lack of indents in the multipurpose (a,b) knobs. Selecting measurements from long lists get tedious as you undershoot and overshoot the desired menu item. The lack of trigger input also shocked me at an instrument of this price. With that said, If I could afford it I'd buy one of these in a heartbeat. Wonderful instruments.

Love the drop test Dave, quality! Great Craic xD

@criscros7 Yeah, they were going to be 199 and 201, with a special 200th episode in between, but the 200th video isn't done yet. So 199 Part 1 and Part 2 it is!

HAHAHA! Dave the meeting part about the Waveinspector is brilliant...so true

I've been out of the EE / CS work market since 2004. I hope the up and comers appreciate all the new instruments that are showing up on the market these days. I'm jealous. I still dabble around as a hobby but unfortunately can't afford the new stuff. In the '70s, I visited my senior VP to get a signature for a spectrum analyzer. He nearly fell off his chair at the price and said, "in my day I designed portable transceivers with a senior volt ohmist and a screw driver. I responded, "well, you never want to look at your work with today's equipment and see how "dirty" the result was. And by the way, you haven't seen anything yet."

The MDO4104C-6 is my consume dream!

Holy crap, can't believe you dropped that scope at the end of the video. NICE!!

Love the drop test

Awesome! Making product comparison fun :D

1. Plug the dual USB A connectors from one end of the “T” USB cable, which comes with your board, into two USB ports of a PC or an oscilloscope. Do this before plugging the single USB B connector from the other end of the USB cable into the MDO Demo 1 board. You need to attach both USB A connectors to provide adequate power to the demo board. 2. Plug the single B connector from the other end of the USB cable into the demo board. Two green and one red LEDs on the board turn on and remain steady when you apply adequate power to the board. If you plug the single B connector to the demo board when there is just one of the two USB A connectors attached to the PC or oscilloscope, you may cause an over-current (>500 mA) condition. This can generate an error message. 3. Connect the MDO4000 Series oscilloscope RF input to the MDO Demo 1 Board RF output using the N-to-BNC Adapter (103-0045-00) and a 50 Ω coax BNC..

Love the video.

@w2aew Ah, excellent, thanks for the clarification.

Great video, as always. (Not that it would matter a lot, but did you give both the review and the teardown video the same number (199) on purpose?)

@adamlumpkins2000 Yeah, I was thinking it might be some kind of wall mount, and/or maybe a rack retainer from behind or something.

Dave, the 4 screw holes on the back of the case could be a vesa mount. The same used in monitor stands. That might go perfectly with my Ergotron mount.

@DanF With most RF signals being digital these days, dropping to an analog AM or FM demodulation isn't as useful as it used to be. for those that would use it that way daily, they are unlikely to need a scope and logic analyzer so a spectrum analyzer is still first choice in that instance. But if you do need all three instruments, you can't beat the price and integration! For EMI, I heard that a quasi peak detector and CSPR filters are in the future... Imagine, design, debugging and EMI pre

This is what all us want to find under the Christmas tree :)

I'll get to use it.

@oscopeman Yes sir. As an Electrical Engineer; in lab at college, there was interference due to fluorescent lights at 60Hz and it's harmonics.

@EEVblog Did you do the review before or after the firmware update?

Dave you think that the recessed pannel on the back is for a bracket to hang it on a wall or rack???

I was expecting to see a teardown ;)

Great minds think alike!!!!!!

That square pattern of (4) threaded holes on the back look like it could be used to bolt the scope to a flat-panel computer monitor stand?

There are actually four expansion PROM slots. Only the forward two of them have a clear window on the front panel.

@HaydenHatTrick BINGO! Someone who understands my review technique, thanks!

great !

Screwholes on the back are for an ISO standard wall/swingarm mount plate.

It was of course not a joke. Drop tests are relevant parts of Dave's reviews, since these devices may be used in rather harsh environments. Drop tests - someone's gotta do them!

Very, very impressive piece of equipment. Then I looked up the price. Oh. Oh dear. WOn't be buying one of them any time soon - the top model comes in at nearly £15,000 :-(

@toddrharrison Thankfully it came off!

@gglovato Yes, they are.

At what time do you conduct the droptest?

Awesome shirt! Where did you get it?

love your shirt did you get to keep it?

Was your flashdrive formatted to FAT or NTFS? Maybe they were different.

Are the modules just for triggering on serial protocols? I think you need them just to decode them.

FINALLY! SOmeone decided to add a banana plug for earthing wrist straps! I screwed a wire on my Hakko FX-888 to an earthing point and then brought it out and attached a banana plug to it.

The place on the back, can you say VESA mount?

The holes on the back, could it be a VESA mount?

Maybe a vesa mount on the back?

LMAO, The drop test was awesome!!

@joe72205 Err, umm, yep, it was! It has now been removed from the lab lest I do something stupid again :->

@h4x00rl33t2 It's bloody expensive. The RF spectrum analyser is nice, and the mixed domain capability is great, but no tracking generator like real spectrum analysers. The scope itself is SLOW and based on an old existing platform, nothing new there at all. If you see mixed domain integrated thing being useful to you, buy it, it's great. If not, there are better value and performance scopes and spectrum analysers.

@fdwantstowatch No firmware update, I like to review it warts and all out of the box.

Spectrum Analyzer with memory depth and wide span in real time, Logic Analyzer, and Oscilloscope, all in one! That kicks much ass!!!! And they all share the SAME trigger system! Imagine the setups you can save to file with that sucker! Good luck duplicating that with separate instruments.

does the mdo4104-6 have signal vue capabilities?

What do we do with our tiny but expensive components with a clearly marked ESD warning? Put them on a post-it note and wiggle them around of course.. My guess is that these DaveCAD (tm) ' files' are dissipative, so no worries! :D

@oscopeman Ah, of course, that's an obvious use!

Are those holes on the back for a Vesa mount possibly?

@0xbenedikt

5 жыл бұрын

I thought so too.

I hope they will fix all theese freezing-style bugs.

@oscopeman Florescent lights?

DROP TEST! XD

Did he actually do the drop test??? How he did it??? I like that part LOL

@Skwisgar2322

10 жыл бұрын

I suspect there was some editing trickery there, probably landed on a pillow and he added the "bang"

My job got us a mso4000 and it is absolutely terrible. I wish someone would have seen this review before buying the POS!!!

@fseeletronicos

9 жыл бұрын

Why is it terrible?

As an owner of the Rigol DS1102E and DS2072A, I just don't think Tek is worth the extra cash. The switchable input load on the DS2072 is worth the cost alone so audio circuits can be directly loaded and measured. I'm looking for a third scope for an embedded development workstation....any good recommendations in the $2K US?

@adamt7667

9 жыл бұрын

Check the Keysight eBay store. Get a 3000 series used maybe?

Większość dają mu na stałe, szczególnie Agilent.

did you really drop it?!

Pity you have to send it back. Now, if they didn't say you couldn't do a drop test, did they mention anything *canyoning* related?

Yep, perhaps somebody more advanced than me, or you Dave, can clear up for me one single thing. Around 6th minute of the video, you tell about little time windows the oscilloscope uses to measure the RF spectrum. So Nyquist frequency is, well, preety high if this time windows are so short. The longer the sample in time domain, the wider frequency domain. Or I'm missing something here.

Got some laughs out of this one, having bought a Tek MSO2014 2 months ago. I have a lot of the same complaints about mine. The UI is not only poorly thought out, it's totally inconsistent. Sometimes you use the "select" button, sometimes you push a soft button. Sometimes you use the multipurpose knobs to choose, sometimes you press the soft button. Those exact same feature modules were less than half as expensive for the 2014 but that's still absurdly overpriced. The accessory bag is crap.

1:27:08 I expect this is only a joke and the Scope was not damaged.

Was that a sharpie permanent marker????

The screw holes on the back look like they are for a wall mount bracket

I have downloaded the user manual and I don't see any mention to the transducer menu for the spectrum analyzer! How can you measure anything without the actual transducer you are using?!?!?! How does the spec an. know what type of probe or antenna are you using?? It also doesn't have the QPeak detector so this is useless if you want do EMC measurements!

you can hack application modules only wit sim card connector and eeprom, too easy. note you can put 4 modules, not 2 at the same time

The top model is 25,700$ US.

Dave, I use a Tek scope similar to this on a daily basis. The Wave Inspector is one of the best scope features I've ever used and I've used scopes for over 50 years. The multipurpose buttons are well labeled and, again, this is just small stuff you get used to in a scope. The fine push buttons don't thrill me, Sometimes you push a little hard on a button when you're not thinking about knobs and I don't need to have it automatically go into fine vertical mode. To each his own but the point is you're nit picking colors and other small nonsense. Ridiculous! Stick to teaching electronics which you're good at. Rob

@FooBar89

7 жыл бұрын

I tend to agree with Dave, the UX is not that great, but the thing that hurts UX the most is the horrible performance, I'm not sure how anyone would even consider this scope

lol drop test, bet tek liked that one

I could have this or a brand new car for the same price.

@1:03:38 The clock skips from 17:29:20 to 17:29:22... Laggy UI fail!!

MSO5074FG 4CH 70MHz Oscilloscope 8CH Logic Analyzer 25MHz Waveform Generator. I purchased this Hantak before I subscribed to your KZread Channel. ??? Big mistake,, or ,, Worth evaluating ??? Thank You in advance,,.,.,.,., Ken !;! P.S. I loved your April Fools on the 555 " Miracle Timer " { BUT } is the 10 nF cap on the control (5) pin real. Some other Blogs say " NO " ???

And no tracking generator....why?

I'm guessing the USB issue is a format thing, I noticed the stick that worked was a very small one (2 GB-ish) and I would guess that would simply be formatted to fat32 or something like that which is a very generic format for a small drive. The other USB sticks might be formatted to NTFS or XFS or EFS or whatever, and the scope just doesn't recognize them due to that. This is absolutely unacceptable for a $20,000 instrument. Hands down I am baffled that anyone could think to charge this kind of money for that kind of garbage. I'm sorry, and I absolutely hate to dump on anything like that; however that is like, new subaru impreza money. That is 'a year living in a REALLY nice place' money. That is 'I can fund the business I've been trying to fund for years now' money.

11 yrs ago you had crazy eyes

sorry, but i miss the subtitles

20,000 dollars for a wvga displayed jagged waveforms.

You have to be Bill Gates in order to buy one of this things! O_o

@FooBar89

7 жыл бұрын

and it's slow as dog

20:06 They're not in the center of the display, to torture OCD sufferers like me :D

HELLO MR.DAVE, PLEASE ACTIVE A LEGENDS IN ENGLISH AND PORTUGUESE MANY TKS

Checked my Micsig STO with this variable memory depth and waveform pr sec. i.imgur.com/kqDz9MG.jpg On Auto mem (std) the highest I got was 103.000wfps on 28K 29.300 on 280K 4.900 on 2.8M 4900 on 28M 4900

@JAKOB1977

3 жыл бұрын

i.imgur.com/si9XkAO.jpg i.imgur.com/zPef3rT.jpg i.imgur.com/ol6ISPG.jpg Its RF exploring on a strict budget, 1hz to a tad under 7Ghz. Wondering if I can put it into a loop with other gears, with the CLK in

on nie dostał tego sprzętu na stałe, tylko żeby się pobawić - potem musi oddać.

tooooooooooooo expensive.... very epic

Who the hell would use an oscilloscope in the dark? -_-

Też chcę dostać sprzęt warty 100,000PLN za zrobienie filmiku trwającego godzinę trzydzieści :(

So what, please?

If you got 1 million bucks, buy me ten truckloads of structural steel and I'll build a saucer in your backyard 9 feet tall 36 feet wide to be your new electrical workshop

Nearly 30 grand.... the Chinese will stomp them out of business in less than a decade wait and see...

MADE IN CHINA

Total fail, Tek :(