Teknic ClearPath Servo Review...

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Diving into Teknic's ClearPath servos and how much they have impressed me on my CNC machine.
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  • @pevlabs
    @pevlabs2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Josh, Even though the video is 4 years old it is still every relevant and helpful today.

  • @raulirimias4810
    @raulirimias48107 жыл бұрын

    Good course. Thank you for sharing your experience with the ClearPath servos. Really helpful.

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure.. the fun is in the making.. :-)...

  • @jamesmaccubbin7434
    @jamesmaccubbin74343 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video! New sub. I'm on my way to purchasing these. Spent time with their support today while they ran a simulator on my machine that isn't completely built yet (very cool) and were able to give me advice on the ones I needed based on my requirements. They recommended the one right under these, but after speaking with them, these are the same ones that I'm getting.Keep it up!

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the sub!

  • @Marc_Miller
    @Marc_Miller7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the interesting video and showing those graphing feedback screens. (And yes I laughed at the intro... rock carved servo mounts and hidden architectural optical encoder messages, hehehe. :P )

  • @patedwards6968
    @patedwards69686 жыл бұрын

    Great review, thanks for sharing!

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    6 жыл бұрын

    Glad you find it useful :-)

  • @wmtolbert5740
    @wmtolbert57407 жыл бұрын

    I made the move from NEMA32 steppers to Clearpath SDSK NEMA23's, the least expensive servo Teknic offers for my 6x12ft router and never looked back. All four servos are driven from a 3A, open frame power supply, now a legacy product that Teknic sold, and perhaps can still be purchased. Once I accidentally knocked the x-axis slave servo off line while performance testing the machine. Instead of hitting the EM Stop button I let the program finish; it ran another four or five minutes before completion. Regardless, it was interesting to watch the primary x-axis servo drive the gantry back and forth, accelerating, decelerating the dead weight of the gantry, well over 100 lbs without trouble and without the assistance of the slave servo. That was the moment I realized how truly remarkable these little Clearpath servos are!!The conversion cost approximately, $1,050 for the (4) servos, $250 for the power supply, and about $100 for cables; certainly less than $1,500 including shipping.Great videos Josh... Keep it up!!!!

  • @matteyles7466
    @matteyles74667 жыл бұрын

    Wow a video with my two favorite things ,Alien conspiracy and CNC

  • @trees2treasureswoodworking921
    @trees2treasureswoodworking9217 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to everyone's Responses very much appreciated. I've worked on tons of systems as a technician, but never had to use all that mental power sizing motors . Always assuming electrical engineering did their job. Magically I never found a system that was ever under sized. Hats off to them but I hate the stress of guessing and worse not being right. Josh may have gotten away with smaller motors, but being wrong sucks. I was comparing motor curves and was concerned if they were big enough. But I was very impressed with his outcome. I drive mine much harder than Josh does cutting 3/4" plywood with a vortex 3/8 compression between 400 and 500 inches a minute in a single pass. But it looks like ClearPath has what it takes. Then when going online had a quick chuckle when I learned they are 30 minutes or so from me in NY.

  • @420mavis

    @420mavis

    5 жыл бұрын

    WOW! That's impressive. I am trying to build a router that will have similar capabilities. IE cutting 3/4 plywood at 400-500 IPM in one pass is my main criteria. Would mind sharing some tips or advice with me? What spindle are you using?

  • @steveeparsonsjr7929
    @steveeparsonsjr79294 жыл бұрын

    I have to quite agree as I bought a rebuilt table and they used the right parts not really for their AWS IOT setup they use & the information they hold back. I totally enjoyed the video thanks for the knowledge.

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing

  • @charliegrove4488
    @charliegrove44884 жыл бұрын

    I'm getting ready to purchase a 5x10 from cncrouterparts and may skip their $2500 electronics package and go the servo route like yourself (basically because of this video, i wanted servos but thought there was more too it)! I am a little nervous since this will be my first machine. If you did have time to even do a quick bom of what you used that would be really great! Thanks for your videos they are great!!

  • @rbyt2010
    @rbyt20107 жыл бұрын

    So great to find your videos. Just at the "cutting air" stage with my CNCRP 4824/CP build. Decided to go with Linux CNC for my controller and still have a bit of integration to do :) Yes tuning is exciting! Would be curious about your y-axis auto tune process... just found your channel - plz keep vids coming.

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    Teknic actually described what they told me down below in the "Trees 2 Treasures Woodworking" thread.. That being said... I tuned my Single (what I call Y, but what is now called X).. Thats the one that drives the Z axis across the gantry and is only 1 servo (to be extra, extra clear :-P)... I then exported those settings and imported them into both of my Gantry motors.. I am letting my Gantry slave reverse its motion in the motor, so I am NOT telling Mach to reverse the slave.. I don't think I did anything to the advanced tuning.. but I may go back and mess with that.. But like I said the Teknic guys described it better below. They are also super helpful.. I can't say enough good things about their customer service.. :)

  • @rbyt2010

    @rbyt2010

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes, the tech support from Technic has been great. I went the route of connecting a phantom load to half of my y before finishing assembly. The auto tune was very uneventful ( for y :) but I haven't played with it much yet in its final config.

  • @rbyt2010

    @rbyt2010

    7 жыл бұрын

    Whoops should have viewed "all replies" below. Missed that.

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    no worries its all good :-)

  • @cvasold
    @cvasold6 жыл бұрын

    Ref the IPC500 power supply; I'm only using 1 power supply on my router and my gantry weighs just north of 400lbs. I am running it on 220vac. I'm also using the 3411 model servo which isnt as powerful as your model. Really good video.

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    6 жыл бұрын

    cvasold yah when I had one burnout I ran just 1 as well with zero issues. But I was happy I had two so I could keep running during the downtime.

  • @cvasold

    @cvasold

    6 жыл бұрын

    I also made this router kzread.info/dash/bejne/q4Cf2rWJnc-rmco.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/iGSWy7yDg9HLoLg.html which is very similar to your CRP4896 but only cuts to 6ft. I used CNCRP drive units on it and the same CP servo's you used. I think I limited the torque on the NEMA 34 servos to 30% of max?? I could have used NEMA 23 CP servo's and it would have been just as well. They're fantastic servos!

  • @MassoCNCAustralia
    @MassoCNCAustralia7 жыл бұрын

    great video, thanks for a great effort

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback!... Hey, totally off topic.. but are the Masso controllers Arm based, and is the software based on anything (like derived from Linux CNC or something?).. Just curious

  • @MassoCNCAustralia

    @MassoCNCAustralia

    7 жыл бұрын

    yes they are ARM based but we don't run any OS to keep them simple and stable. My plan was to have something dedicated for machining and now have clients running production jobs everyday.

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    nice.. that is a lot of heavy lifting for a purely embedded system... Next CNC build I may have to pick one up and give it a go (however, that may be quite a while given the current build is less than a year old ;-).. )

  • @MassoCNCAustralia

    @MassoCNCAustralia

    7 жыл бұрын

    it is a bit of work but as you would know these things are so much fun and getting paid for your hobby is not bad 😀

  • @trees2treasureswoodworking921
    @trees2treasureswoodworking9217 жыл бұрын

    Josh, Great video, hope you do a video on auto tuning. Very curious how to tune dual motor Y axis. Watched a couple of videos on auto tuning but they were single motor axis. My current CRP4896 uses Nema 34 steppers which runs 10 times better than other diy Cnc router I've ever seen. I cut tons of 3/4 " plywood, but have had issues with lost steps. Definitely going with clear path on my next build. Ordering motors in the next couple of days.

  • @matteyles7466

    @matteyles7466

    7 жыл бұрын

    I would be keen to know how you dealt with the duel Y axis tuning.

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    Tree & Matt, Here is the guidance I was given by Teknic regarding auto-tune for the drives.. I'll put this in a video too, but no reason to wait to share.. As long as your X and Y axis use the same kind of drive (both use Rack and Pinion or both use ballscrew/acme screw, or belt, or what ever)... You can auto tune the single drive axis (we'll call that Y).. Then export the setting from the software, and apply it to both of the X axis.. You can then do some tuning around smoothness in the software... If you can't tune it to work off just the Single Axis, you can try adding about 1/2 the weight of your gantry to your Z axis (hang some weights off the motor mount or something) and tune again (no kidding this is what they suggested) and try that with both of your X axis.. Lastly if that doesn't work, call them and there is a super secret extra advanced area and they will work with you (even using screen sharing software I believe) to tune the motors to your gantry... Now if your X and Y axis are different, then, well, your going to have to call them about manual tuning... Mostly the tuning is to figure out the mass that the servo is moving and the harmonics of the machine... They have even suggested you can get pretty far tuning a servo by just putting enough weight on a pulley and having the servo spin that.. (though you wouldn't get harmonics... The guys at Teknic were wonderful & their sales engineers really knew their stuff... Don't hesitate to ask them :-)..

  • @TeknicInc

    @TeknicInc

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hi Josh, this is Tom from Teknic. Thank you for your video highlighting the ClearPath motors. There are some aspects about CNC machine design and tuning that can, for the most part, be considered constants: 1) X and Y axes almost always have the exact same mechanical design to make the machine easier to build and to make the command creation (math) easier 2) The vertical Z axis is almost always a different mechanical design than the X and Y 3) The optimal way to create a dual X file using the auto-tuner is to load 1/2 the total X gantry weight onto the single Y axis and then run the auto-tuner. You usually would not use the Z axis because it is biased downwards based on gravity (which dual X axis is not) and because of the mechanical differences. 4) After auto-tuning the Y axis with the additional weight, load the file into both X motors. 5) Click the "Reverse Direction" checkbox for one of the X motors and save the two X motor files with different names (e.g. XA_SDSK-3421S_rev1 and XB_SDSK-3421S_rev1) 6) Run the machine. If the X axis does not seem to have optimal tuning, trying moving the "Fine Tuning" slider to the left to see if your results are better. You will need to do this with both X motor files before evaluating the effectiveness of this step. If you make any changes, re-save the new files (overwrite the old files or create new names) so you have the files saved in a safe location for the future. Hope this helps clarify a few things

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Tom! that was what I was trying to describe but you said it far better then I did :-).

  • @andrewgiles6192

    @andrewgiles6192

    7 жыл бұрын

    i also hope you do a video on auto tuning, i plan on using 4 clearpaths on my mechmate router build, 2 to drive X.

  • @younoknowme
    @younoknowme7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video! could you do circular cuts with it and how would it compare to a stepper? did you need to run any backlash compensation or was it built in?

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'll run some circular paths when I get a chance (maybe next week)... The visible difference will be based on the G-code and if the paths are smoothed or not.. Given the same g-code if the two paths have tolerences under 1/2 thou the enhanced ClearPaths should provide a smoother finish (having 6400 steps vs your average micro-stepping of 10 to 1 on 200 step motor)... The big difference is if you push your speeds on those cuts, steppers could loose steps and you would never know.. Servo's will make sure every step happens and if it falls to far behind it can stop the job completely. As for backlash.. Backlask is far more a function of the drive train then the motors... The Rack and Pinion drive-train's from CncRouterParts.com have virtually no backlash.. This is my second machine with them, and have never read any backlash on those. The Z-axis is a ball-screw which also has virtually no backlash... My old machine ran an acme screw, and there absolutely was backlash there.. But between the rack and pinion for the long runs and the 16mm ball-screw on the Z axis only worrying about 8" of travel, there isn't any backlack to compensate for.

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    Follow up video just released (not sure who gets notified how, so I am trying to share with each thread).. I cut a 5.5" diameter 1/2" deep cylinder in the video and profile it to show how smooth and faset-less the cutting is at the end of the new video. kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3iIuZaKiZaZprQ.html

  • @jamesmaccubbin7434
    @jamesmaccubbin74343 жыл бұрын

    What did you end up doing for a brake for the Z-axis? I'm looking at a 24v brake that you couple to the servo, but didn't know if there was another way.

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have a 14 pound air piston that I run on mine.. no break, just the piston.

  • @jamesmaccubbin7434

    @jamesmaccubbin7434

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HandsonCNC Someone mentioned a piston to me once, but I can't find any info on how they would connect. Any suggestions?

  • @chadcushman5590
    @chadcushman55905 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps I missed it somewhere, but which breakout board did you use for this setup? Hz?

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    5 жыл бұрын

    I used Ethernet Smoothstepper on default settings with some cheap BoBs no problem..

  • @JbotMischief
    @JbotMischief2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, are you still running this machine? Still happy with the teknic servos?

  • @fedeyoutub
    @fedeyoutub5 жыл бұрын

    Hi, great engines, I want to buy it too, what card do you use to send the signal to the engines? or are they connected directly to the pc?

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    4 жыл бұрын

    I use an Ethernet smootstepper and Mach 4.

  • @HomemadeCody
    @HomemadeCody4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the awesome video! I'm sold, buying them today! Where did you source your motor wires? I don't want to pay for Teknic's! Thank you!

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sorry I just saw this request.. I just bought 8 conductor wire and made them myself.. You can also source short overmolded wires from like Mouser and then cut them in half to use the tips.. Though that is a bit more work.

  • @stryder751
    @stryder7516 жыл бұрын

    can you post the stock number to the plugs you plan to get for the power cord?

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sure the cables I got are www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=245135-0420virtualkey53850000virtualkey538-245135-0420 for power and www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=245135-0820virtualkey53850000virtualkey538-245135-0820 for signal.. I cut them in half so I got two nice clean ends to use per cable purchased :-).

  • @matteyles7466
    @matteyles74667 жыл бұрын

    Just wondering if you fond the stock gearing setup was well suited to Clearpath servos, it was suggested to me that they like 2:1 gearing in order to get the most out of them.

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    the 2:1 ratio may hint at the Inertia mismatch. After this video I had a pretty great phone call with Tom at Technic. and the result was that my 3421s motors were actually about the right size due to Inertia. There was 1 size smaller we could have gone with but it would have "only" saved $50/motor.. All and all I am very happy with the matching of these motors to the gearing that CPRPRO uses.. At the end of the day what your trying to get at (more than "gearing" can illustrate) is how much mass is the motor perceiving its moving.. Gearing is a factor in that (mechanical advantages and all).. but gearing is only part of the equation to matching motors.. CNCRouterParts are a 3.2:1 ratio, going to a 20 tooth pitch rack and pinion.. The result is 1 rotation of the servo = .9817" of the gantry or single motor axis.... The Z axis is on a 1610 ball screw which means 1 rotation of the Z axis servo would mean 10mm of linear motion.. And that is really the key .. how much mass, moves how far, with how many rotations (how many rotations is your transmission) .. the transmission is important.. but its a multi part equation and that is only 1 part.

  • @matteyles7466

    @matteyles7466

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for such an in depth explanation, I think I can be very confident with this mix of parts. Can't wait to get rolling with this.

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    Glad to be of help.. I am working up the follow up video based on a few requests below.. I'll have that out early to mid this week.

  • @Z-add
    @Z-add5 жыл бұрын

    Have you done a video about connecting your servos to the controller. Want to know the entire process how you upgraded the cncrouterparts to servos.

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    5 жыл бұрын

    I just rewired the system when I upgraded the spindle. I’ve thought about a video covering that.

  • @williamdevlin7667
    @williamdevlin76675 жыл бұрын

    I am getting my Clearpath servos Tuesday. Using the same servos on a cncrp 4848. But I am using an Acorn controller. Any info you have would be appreciated.

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    5 жыл бұрын

    hey I think you reached out to me on my FB page and replied there.. Check out my Tuning videos for X, Y and Z to nail your step counts after you get in the ballpark (which is 6519.3032 steps/inch for X & Y with the enhanced servos and the Pro rack and pinion for NEMA 34 drivetrain). Good luck and looking forward to hearing how it goes for you :-)

  • @HouseProjectIT
    @HouseProjectIT7 жыл бұрын

    any chance to get the wiring diagram to know how to connect en dir and step?

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    Just posted something that should help.. Between these and the clearpath instructions you should be good. instagram.com/p/BXd_0lhFZp1/?hl=en

  • @Z-add
    @Z-add5 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a BOM of what you bought from CNCrouterparts and what additional things to buy for the clearpath servo route?

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't but I could put one togeather.. I have improved the cabinet since I built this so my BOM is different now (especially with the new spindle)

  • @Z-add

    @Z-add

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@HandsonCNC my confusion is whether to buy the nema 24 control system and then not use the steppers and drivers(money lost), and then attach the clearpath servos. Is it that simple or am i missing something.

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Z-add There are better ways to achieve the same goal if you are willing to put the elbow grease into it.. Let me know and I can shoot a quick video on my electronics setup.. Will be a better reply than typing it all out here..

  • @Z-add

    @Z-add

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@HandsonCNC a video about the electronics will be good. Specially what not to buy from cncrouterparts.

  • @matteyles7466
    @matteyles74664 жыл бұрын

    Just wondering, did you go for the standard or enhanced version Clearparth?

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    4 жыл бұрын

    I went with enhanced servos...

  • @ryang6513

    @ryang6513

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HandsonCNC Does Enhanced vs. Standard actually matter for this application? Especially if you're cutting almost entirely plywood?

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ryang6513 probably not... you can do the math on distance/rotation/steps and decide if that resolution is good enough for you.. And then you have machine flex to consider at that level as well.. But it probably doesn't... Its a vanity spec for a big CNC... for a small work volume heavy CNC Mill... well things could be different... But for wood, probably not..

  • @justinhough4192
    @justinhough41922 жыл бұрын

    Do you think you went too large on the Teknics?

  • @juliovargas2612
    @juliovargas26127 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing valuable info on these awesome servo motors, I would like to know how you connected the Clearpath servo motors with CNCRP NEMA 34 elctronics kit. Sorry for my bad english

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hi Julio, I actually didn't use CNCRP's electronics.. I built my own.. they aren't Horrible to develop, just a little thinking.. any combination of Ethernet SmoothStepper and a good B.o.B should get you going.

  • @joeygonzo

    @joeygonzo

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HandsonCNC so, throw away the stepper controller box ?

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joeygonzo you still need something to do pulse generation (Ethernet smooth stepper) and other IO tasks for the machine (limit switches and such).. But the Stepper Drivers go away as the Clearpaths take a 5v pulse signal (step/direction) and up to 75v power.. Traditional stepper motors require the stepper drivers in the box, where as the clearpaths, the driver is part of the servo. hope that helps explain it.

  • @ryang6513

    @ryang6513

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HandsonCNC Ordering my CNCRP PRO4896 next week and am going to pass on their electronics kit and build it myself. What controller are you using? I heard that ESS isn't required but maybe that's because I was looking at Acorn for the controller?

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ryang6513 I am using Mach4 with an ESS, I believe Acorn's only work with their Centroid controller software (which looks to be free because they sold you the hardware)..

  • @imaginarypoint
    @imaginarypoint3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for video. Can you list the CP motor# you used for all 3 axis? Thanks again in advance. Edit.. you list the CPM-SDSK-3421S-ELN. I take if you used for all 3 axis?

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the question.. yes I use the same motors for all 3 axies...

  • @imaginarypoint

    @imaginarypoint

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HandsonCNC - that is what i thought. I just ordered 4 each myself. I hope they are not too powerful. Am running an AVID-CNC 4x8.

  • @JAMESHOPKINSIBXCNC
    @JAMESHOPKINSIBXCNC7 жыл бұрын

    I just bought one of these servos to try on my mill, well finally got it enabled now I cant get it to move with Mach3, I can move it all around with the software but not Mach3. Homing is another issue, since it is not responding to Mach3 I cant get it to home or move with Mach3. I would appreciate any info on these subjects.

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    Its step and direction like most drivers.. as long as you send common (0v) and step as pins 3(+5v)&7(0v) and direction as 2(+5v)&6(0v) you should be good.. make sure the 0v you are sending is one the same circuit as the +5v or well, it won't be +5v as to have +5v you have to have something on the same electrical path to difference with :-P.. if your able to enable it from Mach3, then you should be able to use the same common from your enable to your step, and your direction. Hope that helps.

  • @JAMESHOPKINSIBXCNC

    @JAMESHOPKINSIBXCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    So can I use the same com for 0v on 3 and 6 then use two separate +5v for 2 and 3. Such as a C11GS bob pins 6 com 7? I worked diligently for three days trying to get the thing to move, seems a buddy of mine noticed that while I was in MSP the SW ENABLED box was not turning green when I selected the enable button on the screen set. He is concerned that the software is not communicating with the servo board and any information such as configuration settings within the profile created and loaded on the servo is not sticking. I am wondering the same thing as we tried a multitude of things to correct the problem including a different bob. I plan to call the company to ask them the question about the software screen set color discrepancy as it may be a OS display variation. Thank you for responding to my question I do greatly appreciate the information, and your videos are great. I think the accuracy of the part you milled on your machine was accurate to ten thousandths of an inch which I think is tremendous on wood, thumbs up!!!!

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    Are you connecting to your bob directly (PC parallel port) or through a USB or Ethernet device (like an ESS)? If your going directly from your PC, then the spec on the ClearPATHs are 5~24v signals.. PC Parallel ports are 3.3v.. You may want to double check (with your enable signal) that your sending 5v to the servo. here is a link to a picture of my pin outs to see if that helps.. instagram.com/p/BUt2PFzBVHu/ Teknic are good people I am sure they will help figure it out :-) FYI: I am using an ethernet smoothstepper and a BoB with PWM -> 0v~10v (amzn.to/2qx3hZT)..

  • @JAMESHOPKINSIBXCNC

    @JAMESHOPKINSIBXCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    Connected to c11gs bob, via db25 thru cable, 5v at enable pin board has a 5v power supply all its own.

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    hurm... hopefully that picture may help with how I pinned out my clearpaths.. again I am using a Ethernet Smooth Stepper so the config isn't 100% the same..

  • @laserfalcon
    @laserfalcon4 жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @laserfalcon
    @laserfalcon4 жыл бұрын

    Can you recommend bob,s?

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    4 жыл бұрын

    www.cncroom.com/interface-cards/ess-mb3 this is my favorite bob (that link is to bob + ESS)

  • @TechTomVideo
    @TechTomVideo7 жыл бұрын

    Hello, i have one question: You said you're running a gantry machine. How does the autotune work for your gantry axis?

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    I have a follow up video that talks about auto tuning and setting up dual axis gantry systems... There are also a few comment threads on that video about the topic that provide more details :-) kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3iIuZaKiZaZprQ.html

  • @TechTomVideo

    @TechTomVideo

    7 жыл бұрын

    oh okay - sorry for asking already answered questions and thank you for your reply can't wait till im at home to watch it :)

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    No worries.. .ask anytime.. :-)

  • @TechTomVideo

    @TechTomVideo

    7 жыл бұрын

    i'll take your word :)

  • @motorguy6512
    @motorguy65127 жыл бұрын

    How much torque are you using when cutting? It seems like you weren't using much ~5-10% to move the gantry around. Maybe you could have gotten away with the NEMA 23 versions to save $$$?

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    That's a great question... And you may be right, I sized these based on what I though I understood the torque curve of CNCRouterParts nema 34's to be like.. These motors are far torque-ier then my machine is rigid. I have the acceleration dialed way back in Mach4.. When I do a follow up video (like the request below to make some circle cuts) I'll run the software on the Y axis while cutting those circles and we can get some stats on torque used.. I'll do some light cuts and some very aggressive cuts so we have a comparison in that video. I may include in that video what I mean by the motors having more torque then the machine has rigidity by upping the acceleration in mach and doing some 1200ipm rapids (which the motors pretty much laugh at)

  • @motorguy6512

    @motorguy6512

    7 жыл бұрын

    That would be a cool video!!! Sizing a servo replacement for a stepper motor is difficult because the Torque curve for a stepper is unattainable since the motor will just stall when you get close to the edge of the curve. (not to mention the fact the stepper torque drops off quickly at speed vs servos holding constant)

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'll put it in the Queue.

  • @Runner50783

    @Runner50783

    7 жыл бұрын

    The choice was right!, even when it looks like overkill, for a CNC machine, you want as good innertia ratio as you can get, nema 23 motors have much less rotor inertia, even when they have similar torque values. A low inertia mismatch ( load inertia / rotor inertia) will allow the motors to move with very little or positional error at the begining and end of the move, which is very important if you want your cuts to be accurate.

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    That makes sense from a physics perspective.. wither or not it would make a measurable difference inside the tolerances of a 4'x8' CNC Router table.. TBD... but on principle I totally agree... If I had run a Nema 23 on the Z, then I likely would have wanted a DC brake and those things are EXPENSIVE! the holding power (even off) with the Nema 34's is more than enough to keep the spindle where it is.

  • @mandela557
    @mandela5575 жыл бұрын

    Would you say the 400-600$ or so for the clear path 75v system is a cheaper less labor intensive set up over all than comparitivly accurate stepper/bob/driver system?

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    5 жыл бұрын

    ClearPath setups are not price competitive with steppers. But they are significantly higher quality and performance.

  • @charlesroy2394

    @charlesroy2394

    4 жыл бұрын

    ​@@HandsonCNC Hello josh just wondering which servo's you went with and who did the calculations on motor selection you or clearpath. Thanks

  • @Foomanlol
    @Foomanlol8 ай бұрын

    Lol. "That sucks, lets get you a new one" is basically the best customer service you can get dude. Perhaps you wanted to figure it why it blew, but its cheaper for them to just replace it and if it becomes a persistent problem then they will look into it more.

  • @SixDasher
    @SixDasher6 жыл бұрын

    The driver is on the motor.

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jimbodiah yup it sure is.

  • @beachboardfan9544
    @beachboardfan95446 жыл бұрын

    HOLY HELL 1:58 second intro!? Meat and potatoes doesnt even start until 8:50!

  • @FusionFiber
    @FusionFiber7 жыл бұрын

    It's a micro usb port, not a mini usb port ;)

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    Jannes Vandepitte yah. Mis-spoke there.

  • @FusionFiber

    @FusionFiber

    7 жыл бұрын

    No worries, happens to the best. Great content btw ! Doing some research on building my own CNC and these guys look like the perfect candidate.

  • @axelweimann5274
    @axelweimann52747 жыл бұрын

    put your PSU back in Box they are not made eating all your dust :)

  • @HandsonCNC

    @HandsonCNC

    7 жыл бұрын

    Ha! .. I though long and hard about that.. I decided to keep them outside because my box doesn't have any airflow of its own.. Its also a rats nest in there.. I need to rebuild that box with a heck of a lot more "sanity" when I do i'll move them and the VFD into the box..

  • @axelweimann5274

    @axelweimann5274

    7 жыл бұрын

    Dont worry about you have to for 4 small servos the both not eaven under real load dont worry about the temps worry about the dust chips etc

  • @loganshirey2490
    @loganshirey24906 жыл бұрын

    Its a power supply relax and it sounds like 33% of the ones you used were junk so...

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