The detail level is so crazy, the menu is just a close up of Kazuya’s body 😂

@KartikSingh-nm1ik

6 ай бұрын

They really did the arkham knight in menu

@fullmetal147258

6 ай бұрын

TheMainManSWE went crazy haha😂

@dat1faclesdude

6 ай бұрын

yeah first kazuya staring at your soul then when you press start and you will stare at kazuya's chest

@nicktubara

6 ай бұрын

Kazuya looking SWOL 😮.

@nayyabmughal1123

6 ай бұрын

Yeah my brother was saying they showing off too much if kazuya 😂

I love that they got Nigel Woodall in on this video. I asked Nigel over twitter a few years ago to test an old game and Nigel did all sorts of testing all just for a thank you. Nigel does so much for input latency testing.

@Alex_Logan22

6 ай бұрын

Crazy

@noodalls

5 ай бұрын

Which game?

This series deserves a DF Retro + Evolution of the series so far

@dingo535

5 ай бұрын

They have one that goes from Tekken through Tekken 7. I believe it’s in the “tech evolution” playlist.

@zanychelly

5 ай бұрын

@@dingo535 thanks mate

Never could have imagined games looking this good when I was a kid. I thought tekken 3 looked amazing back then, this is just mind blowing

@nayyarrashid4661

6 ай бұрын

Tekken 3 was a big leap as well back then. So huhe that they stuck with the same graphics in Tekken tag tournament as well. In the arcades at least.

@GiBMan70

6 ай бұрын

As someone who played the original Tekken to death thirty years ago....yeah.

@RedPillAlways

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely. I grew out of all these side scroll fighters in favor of games like God of Wars, Spider-Mans, Last of Us, Star Wars Jedi games, Resident Evils, Ghost of Tsushima, Avatar, RDR 1/2, ect ect. Because games today look this good and that is the reason I buy Hardware in the first place And I want that narrative-driven offline awesome gameplay. Games I'm happy to play now later an years later without the Online ball an chain Garbage. Without any of that I would have zero reasons to even be in gaming today and it would save me a whole bunch of money

@captinsparklezremix

6 ай бұрын

​@@RedPillAlwaysTekken isn't a 2D fighter lmao you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

@PrinceVegetaBrief

6 ай бұрын

@@captinsparklezremix It certainly is.

I love how we all benefit from John having a Steam Deck.

@paul1979uk2000

6 ай бұрын

Yep, Valve should've sent all the DF team one earlier lol. We likely would have got more coverage on the Deck with more games.

@j5689

6 ай бұрын

@@paul1979uk2000 It works out that this OLED version finally came out for him, from hearing what he had to say about the screen used in the LCD Steam Decks, he seemed almost completely disinterested in having one even if it was given to him for free because of how terrible those LCDs were.

@Aggrofool

6 ай бұрын

OLED too

@jaspelino1963

5 ай бұрын

We don’t, actually. He hasn’t even tried the online modes, which don’t work on Steam Deck.

@isaboll1

5 ай бұрын

​@@jaspelino1963Proton Experimental Bleeding Edge updated with a fix for that, and Proton Hotfix has that now, which the game uses by default.

This is how I remembered Tekken 7. Until I've seen the comparisons to Tekken 8. Like wow.

@8K240hz

5 ай бұрын

Thats what im saying😂

Based on what I've played so far, this might wind up being the best Tekken. In a series with some real masterpieces in its lineage.

@qwerttzizzi

6 ай бұрын

Did you buy Tekken 8? And what other installments did you also like?

@ChrisLT

6 ай бұрын

@@qwerttzizzi Yep. 3 and 5 were my favorites, and I spent a ton of time with TTT.

@qwerttzizzi

6 ай бұрын

@@ChrisLT I am reentering after T3..couldnt really get into T7

@Cakalank

6 ай бұрын

Tekken 7 was amazing but 8 is where they really step up the game and treat it as propoer AAA level.

@GollumsJealous

6 ай бұрын

To me it already is a masterpiece. The battle hub, graphics and story mode are a step up from anything fighting games has to offer as well as the world class tutorial. What sets it apart is the advanced AI tech and the fact it is the best looking fighter to date. This objectively puts it ahead of all others.

John now doing recommended Steam Deck settings is the biggest upgrade to this channel ever I love it

@ThriceGr8

5 ай бұрын

The recommended settings didn't net me 60fps so now I've got a ton of troubleshooting to do

@ponymei9890

Ай бұрын

@@ThriceGr8 womp womp

I really appreciate you guys testing settings and etc. for Steam Deck too. Thank you ❤❤❤

Please do more "Steam Deck setting for said game" for future videos, it really helps! Thank you DF

This game is a blast. I haven’t played Tekken for a long time and I’m having a lot of fun. Earlier when I was playing I was so close to my TV cause I was just admiring all the details in this game.

Love the inclusion of the Steam Deck! It has become my preferred way to play in most cases so I'd love it to be included in tech reviews moving forward!

@verdomtnochmal

6 ай бұрын

Me too!

@AL2009man

6 ай бұрын

Since the reviewer (John Linneman) now owns an Steam Deck [OLED], we might expect future videos to include Steam Deck.

@ericwilliams8647

6 ай бұрын

Steam Deck Oled is the future of gaming

@mechanicalmonk2020

6 ай бұрын

​@@ericwilliams8647oh yeah? Then why can't you play this one game I made on my computer 15 years ago and never released on it?

@pierreo33

5 ай бұрын

@@ericwilliams8647 Lmao

I used to play Tekken 3. It was such a huge leap when compared to Tekken 2. Now, in tekken 8, there are more polygons in one of our character's hand than there were total polygons in the entire frame back in Tekken 3.

The game looks incredible. The same as it was expected on PS5 and XSX but even on the XSS is pretty ok with logical limitations. The Steam Deck version is very impressive! Amazing job from Namco.

The input speed is incredible and very noticeable because it requires you to speed up and i couldnt believe it. But its a true arcade game and i love it. It really challenges you to get better and practice. Its chaotic and smooth and i love it

Thank you so much for the input lag tests, this was very thorough.

2:06 wow TTT on the PS2 still looks amazing!!!

@Serandi1987

5 ай бұрын

Yes but the TTT HD version on PS3 is even much better!

Great to see PC and Steam Deck included. I feel that those platform are an interesting addition as XboxSX and PS5 don't differ that much. Keep it up, John 👍

Awesome vid, John, thank you for that. Wanted info on upscaling prefernces and got it. And having Noodalls do the latency comparison - perfect!

Tekken 3 was amazing back in the day. Played it so much and watching hworang kata was a spectacle.

@WeeWeeJumbo

5 ай бұрын

you remember that intro music too. it’s among your fondest memories

Someone needs to tell John that he cannot simply open his presentations with such fiery jams, nope, no sir, such a spark awakened my whole soul and took it up to the clouds. Give us an heads up next time bro, and keep rocking 🦾

Great review and it was nice to feel that you really understand the nuances of fighting games. Super impressed. Great review for great game. Looking forward to playing!!!

So nice to see the steam deck settings in the video. Would be awesome if it returned on more video's

This is the perfect selling point for the Steam Deck. The idea that you can play full Tekken at launch, with next gen graphics on a handheld device is amazing to me.

@alumlovescake

6 ай бұрын

No because the steamdeck is weak. That is the selling point of the more powerful handhelds

@kickass2733

6 ай бұрын

@@alumlovescakeno the steam deck is pretty powerful for the price. And the fact that tekken works at launch is amazing. You’re just a hater and if you want to spend more than $400 on a handheld that’s on you

@damnkris

6 ай бұрын

The idea that you can play full Tekken at lunch is amazing to me

@oo--7714

6 ай бұрын

​@@kickass2733the steam deck oled is $549

@oo--7714

6 ай бұрын

At 65% res scale (645p). On low settings. Not that impressive but at least it works. It would be better if it could do natvie but eh.

The individual muscle deformation is crazy

@turbotrup96

5 ай бұрын

I disagree - it's scripted and the muscles have visible edges and low res textures

@DodgaOfficial

5 ай бұрын

@@turbotrup96 lol it's a game, of course its scripted, everything is scripted. What I think you mean to say is that it's not a true physics simulation, but you have any idea how computational expensive true muscle deformation simulation would be? Ever wondered why we are just starting to see this in games and it hasn't been a standard feature for a long time? Because even faking it is computationaly expensive when we are talking about rendering 60 frames a second, it looks really good, and is still a really impressive achievement.

@turbotrup96

5 ай бұрын

@@DodgaOfficial There have been games in which body deformation was a thing, and those were on previous generations of consoles, so I'm not that impressed by it.

@MMaRsu

5 ай бұрын

Too bad all the characters have the exact same bodyu type.

@WeeWeeJumbo

5 ай бұрын

@@turbotrup96you are trying too hard. save some for the next life

Jeez, the direct comparison with Tekken 7 is striking. My memory upscales things 😅

@zeus1117

5 ай бұрын

Tekken 7 was shown on an old console. Playing it on the PC looks miles better today...close to 8 I would say.

@PeterPolgarSzidzse

5 ай бұрын

@@zeus1117it’s not lol. It’s sharper of course, but that doesn’t mean it’s close to T8.

Gotta love seeing Johns old PC setup @3:35 haha

wow, that intro-logo animation! :D shoutouts to whomever did the gfx for this.

I really love the Start menu for this game.

Thanks for including Steam Deck and input delay, folks! A note for Steam Deck users: currently, Proton players are getting a ton of disconnects in online matches. I'm guessing a patch from Bandai Namco or Valve on either side of the equation will fix it soon, but we don't know for sure.

This video took a lot of work. I'm super impressed. Amazing work.

With SpecialK you can check the "Force DLAA" option when DLSS is enabled in game -- and the image quality is phenomenal -- *chef's kiss*

Frame time graph on was all over the place with the game's built in frame cap with Vsync off. With RTSS enforced 60fps, it was way smoother.

Tekken 8 is the absolute next gen bar for fighting games

@DonYoGi8331

6 ай бұрын

Imagine if MK1 was like this, 3D again like MK4, DA, and Deception.

@lassesuurmunne8340

6 ай бұрын

Maybe now is the right time for them to try a 3D MK again since back then 3D was in its early days. But I understand that both Street Fighter and MK would be very hesitant about returning to 3D since going back to 2D is what saved them both as we all know. Tekken of course started as a 3D fighter and it's still basically the same mechanics that worked back when it started so it's like tried and tested. I'd love for MK to try another 3D fighter, they've learnt so much about what makes a good fighter fighting mechanics wise. So maybe now they could do it if they wanted to. sorry for the long message@@DonYoGi8331

@WeeWeeJumbo

5 ай бұрын

it’s the high water mark for sure. every fighter will be compared to this

When John was showing Jin's model at 3:40 there was a second where I thought John's old desk setup was the actual background render in the game.

great review. especially the steam deck info. the tsr upscaling tip made a huge difference. sadly using your settings on my (non oled, using proton ge 8-27) steam deck resulted in consistent drops into the 40s or less, especially at the back of complex stages like urban square. just in case others were having the same issues as me, here are the best settings i could come up with to compensate: resolution 1152x720 (really helps) v-sync on variable rate shading on rendering scale 50 (yeah i know...) upscaling tsr anti-aliasing medium shadows low textures high effects low post-processing low backgrounds medium expect to get a stable 55 in almost every situation (i set frame limit to 55 in deck performance settings), and 60 in most stages besides the urbans. might drop 2-5 frames in the far back of urban square day during heavy effects. if you want 60 everywhere, accept the extreme blur/ugliness and drop everything to low. but i feel like this is a good balance where things run acceptably well while still looking kinda pretty (tho a bit blurry obv).

@TiZ_HugLife

5 ай бұрын

My LCD deck was also having trouble with this video's recommended settings. To think that the OLED could actually have improved this much? Were there other performance tweaks in play on Digital Foundry's Deck? Maybe performance tweaks from ours that could actually be negatively impacting performance? I'm actually trying *disabling* most of the tweaks I've enabled on mine to see if I can attain the performance shown in this video.

One thing I found crazy about playing Tekken 8’s demo is the fact it has native UltraWide support (at least 21:9). It’s the first fighting game that I can think of that has it.

@protocetid

5 ай бұрын

It's cool that Namco did this. I wish the PC version had some additional graphical enhancements, ultrawide and motion blur are hardly a showcase for the more advanced technology in PC.

Great job with the analysis and video!, however the proposed steamdeck configurations do not work well on the LCD version.

Excellent content again, DF! Really indepth. I'm not even an hardcore Tekken player and you're making me want to buy it haha.

Thanks, the upscaling options are truely overwhelming. I just went with DLSS Quality at first but TSR 100% looks superb. Now i just need HDR settings

Series S really keeping the spirit of last gen alive.

@S5000Krad

6 ай бұрын

isn't that Dana Red, or maybe even Pink

@originalityisdead.9513

6 ай бұрын

I have to agree. Sub 720p ain't a good look.

@amanpradhan02

6 ай бұрын

You say the Xbox Series S keeps a last gen alive while it also gives a solid 60 fps framerate and has the best/least amount of latency compared to Xbox series x and PS5.

@originalityisdead.9513

6 ай бұрын

@@amanpradhan02 The image quality in numerous games is horrendous.

@TheBean87

6 ай бұрын

@@amanpradhan02 these people don’t actually understand anything, they just love their narratives.

Amazing review, John. I’m also curious about why they haven’t added the motion blur option for consoles. Maybe it’ll added in future patches?

Thank you John for the detailed review and exploring the different versions. Solid analysis. I still haven't made the purchase yet.

@zeus1117

5 ай бұрын

Wait until 10-15$. No games worth more than that.

latency test is so great for these type of games really enjoyed this deep dive

Was it mentioned how the controllers were connected for the input latency testing? Bluetooth can add a surprising amount (or at least it did, I don't know about current gen).

Cool vid but something went wrong with either your HDR capture or conversion in some of this footage. It's really blown out. Check out the jukebox selection screen at 3:19 - the cover artwork highlights have gone nuclear.

great video for tekken, very cool to see nigel on the channel!!!

Crazy that it works on the Deck at 60fps. That's almost a system seller right there

5:00 We need that llama as the next DLC character

@stevenesbitt3528

4 ай бұрын

They might need to work on the animation a bit 😂

12:37 damn that transmission from Lee to Jin was so smooth, awesome.

Thank you so much for the input lag measurement~!!!

Was so hyped for this game..and reading this video title is so satisfying!

I was playing the PC version in 4k, maxed out settings, and the game looks amazing.

@Nucleosynthese

6 ай бұрын

I feel like the PC and steam deck version should be included in all DF video's, it is the most different. There's not that much difference between PS and Xbox

@Hyper_Light_Grifter

5 ай бұрын

Is TSR better than native tho?

@tulegaming415

5 ай бұрын

@@Nucleosynthese I need to buy a steam deck oled. My only concern is that I won't use it that much.

Excellent. Can we see more Steam Deck comparisons, and recommended settings in the future??

great detailed review. Gave us history, advancements and more.

Put over 3 hours in last night plays like a dream and looks great on Series X. The first game that finally looks like the Tekken teaser for PS3 from years ago.

“One hell of a PEC’D game” Haha, nicely done, I love John’s small editing jokes

I’m surprised you didn’t mentioned the lack of lumen in the final version compared to the trailer.

i Think that fight from the reveal trailer might look a bit more dramatic in the story mode. also, as soon as i saw the amount of upscaling options, i knew df would have a blast analysing all of them😭😭

YES the Input Lag Testing!

Loving the steam deck recommendation segment hope you include the steam deck more going forward.

Love the inclusion of steam deck analysis and settings!

5:00- llama tryin’ to get his screen time

Hope you guys cover Infinite Wealth as well.

@spenny2cents

6 ай бұрын

What a boring video that would be and for only around 70k views it would get wouldn’t be worth it for them

Absolutely love how much attention the steam deck gets on this channel. Love that Tekken runs so well on it

The alpaca 🦙 approaching Kazuya 😍💗

@Digital Foundry: You need to play act 15 (the final one) of the story mode. There the lighting is significantly improved on the Fallen Destinyy stage over the regular gameplay and actually matches up to the original announcement trailer pretty well. I wish though there was an option to always play with this lighting enabled on PC regardless of mode

Tekken always finds ways to push visuals every iteration, love it

@AlexAnteroLammikko

6 ай бұрын

Well not quite every iteration.

@alumlovescake

6 ай бұрын

7 was not groundbreaking and 8 looks like 7 but slightly better

@yobro6053

6 ай бұрын

Soul calibur always looked better imo.

@alumlovescake

6 ай бұрын

@@yobro6053 SC is a little bit more cartoony looking but SC6 looks quite nice and I quite like the realistic but still anime looking designs. I find Tekken 8 characters to look off. Something about the faces in T8 looks uncanny to me

@yobro6053

6 ай бұрын

@@alumlovescake soul calibur 4 and 5 were head and shoulders above t6 and tag 2 visually. People may hate on sc5, but the game looked ridiculous for a ps3 fighter

Looks good on xbsx

Amazing coverage by John!

Pretty cool to see more Steam Deck comparison with the next gen consoles like this one.

If i took a drink every time digital foundry recmomends turning on motion blur; i would've died of poisoning

@DigitalFoundry

6 ай бұрын

Digital Foundry assumes no responsibility from alcohol poisoning as a result of motion blur recommendations. 😏

@James-gj8rn

6 ай бұрын

@@DigitalFoundry brilliant:’D

@qwerttzizzi

6 ай бұрын

On tv or in the game settings?

@shandilesmanahidayat7131

6 ай бұрын

​@@DigitalFoundryhahahaha

@ivanleon6164

6 ай бұрын

on the other hand, some alcohol comes with motion blur enabled@@DigitalFoundry

i only played the demo but that ran quite well on Steam Deck, its way more optimized than im used to for new games

I am glad that John pointed out the loading time improvement, since it matters a lot for a game like this. Also for racing game like GT, I remembered I just can't put up with the long loading time for GT sport on ps4

Great video John 👍🏻🙏🏻💚

The Arcade Stick support is a BIG plus for PC in my opinion.

@Hyper_Light_Grifter

5 ай бұрын

Agreed I’ve got my pc connected to a custom arcade machine for all my fighting games

For the first time ever i can say im getting the PC version...free online also is a big factor.

@paul1979uk2000

6 ай бұрын

I actually forgot all about the free online play, is that still a thing where you have to pay on PS and Xbox to play online?

@kbthegoat824

6 ай бұрын

@paul1979uk2000 yupp, and ps just raised their price to 80 dollars a year just to play online. And xbox of course forces you with the gamepass and xbox live bundle.

@Kait0s

6 ай бұрын

​Yep... Aside from free to play games like Fortnite, you have to pay for ps+ or game pass core to be able to play online. ​@@paul1979uk2000

@TSF_Ukraine

6 ай бұрын

​@@paul1979uk2000Yep, still is. Really sucks, too.

@4TheWinQuinn

6 ай бұрын

@@paul1979uk2000still a thing !!?? We just had a massive price hike on PS5. It’s a total frikkin scam.

I can't wait to see who will be the guest characters this time around as Akuma and Geese really made the last game playable for me.

Definitely getting this for my arcade cabinet!!!

Yo, what's going on with the gamma levels in that footage of the Windows version? It's completely blown out.

@Hyper_Light_Grifter

5 ай бұрын

HDR capture

PC capture in this video looks way brighter than it should be.

@dophie3292

6 ай бұрын

I heard it happens if you capture footage with HDR on

Great video glad it's working well on all platforms.

I played this on my series x day one for hours and I was just amazed at the visuals! I know my xbox was working overtime cause that air coming off the top was hot hot! 🔥

Best settings I’ve found for maintaining a mostly consistent 60 fps on Steam Deck (might drop a few frames in the more demanding situations): -Steam Deck frame rate limit of 60 fps -Resolution: 800p -V-sync: off -Rendering scale: 55 -Upscaling: AMD FSR 1.0 -Texture Quality: Medium -Post-Processing Quality: Medium -Remaining settings: Low Hope this helps anyone struggling at keeping a playable steady FPS.

@prentissbaker5247

5 ай бұрын

LCD or OLED Steam Deck?

Went Xbox and saw the results of this analysis, the Series X has a slight edge in resolution and latency so I'll take it! Also have two Series S' (one in the bedroom and one in the kid's room) so game sharing for the win. Such a great time for fighting games between this, SF6 and MK1. I still have to try some online matches. Tekken, the Royal Rumble and the NFL playoffs sum up my weekend. Happy gaming everyone!

Forgot The muscle physics its insane when character do heavy moves or powercrash or electric they're body change veins pop out muscle tightening up skin colour change

Loving this game ! I love tekken so much . Already made it up to brawler online .

I was obsessed with Namco fighting games back in the day. I'm over them now but it's cool to see the series still going strong. Love the new muscle flexing feature. Not a fan of the trend in overdesigning the look of these characters though. I prefer the clean iconic look of the classic characters from the T2-4 era. And why is Law so thiccccc? He's supposed to be Bruce Lee!

The latency they achieved across all versions is a triumph. Tekken 7 had a bad rep on the console as it made some moves impossible to react to due to input latency

Can someone please explain why there is motion blur the second a move takes place and there is body contact? This hurts my eyes. Has anyone ever questioned this? When you watch a martialarts movie,you see moves in clarity.

17:40 gotta love John's dry sarcasm lol

I can't wait to get this game for m6 Xbox Series S

Now we just need to remind Namco about Ridge Racer

@NoMereRanger73

6 ай бұрын

Riiiidge Racer!!

@Hyper_Light_Grifter

5 ай бұрын

Soul Caliber 7

@WeeWeeJumbo

5 ай бұрын

yeah it’s like they’e afraid to revisit their own franchise. if there’s room for Ace Combat 7 then there ought to be room for new Ridge Racer

What are the improvements with the soundtrack jukebox?

Let me just say, its so cool to see a game that just gives you all the options for resolution scaling. This deserves a big shoutout i.m.o.

Amazing video thx John, cool the addtion of steam deck recommandation but also the input lag. Its a step up for a DF presentation well done 🫡

Had no idea about the TSR AA. I was using the TAAU on pc demo and felt like something was off so hopefully the TSR will resolve that. Will give it a go later!! Edit: tried it out and yep TSR is a night and day diff.. looks soOoo good. Vastly superior! Thanks guys

@b-41subject57

6 ай бұрын

Can you share your other settings that you have with TSR? Like what do you have for background effect, etc.

@OutplayedChad

6 ай бұрын

@@b-41subject57 I have a gsync monitor which I why I have vsync off

@OutplayedChad

6 ай бұрын

For me vsync off and everything else is set to ultra with 100 resolution scale. I have a 4090 though. Game looks good with those settings. Can't quutr tell if AA set to low or ultra looks better.

Totally agree that motion blur should be available on consoles! Let’s make sure they know it’s wanted

@coruviel

6 ай бұрын

Motion blur should have a toggle, the animations look absolutely fluid with it on, i dunno why they INSIST on not including it on the console versions.

@Hyper_Light_Grifter

5 ай бұрын

I thought all console games have motion blur and pc games give the option to turn it off

@budgetking2591

5 ай бұрын

Because it uses a lot of recources from the GPU and they would have to lower the res, the current gen consoles are starting to show their age, not a surprise they been on the market for a while now.@@coruviel

plays amazing, streamed it for 10 hrs yesterday

The clothing materials and rendering is outstanding!