Please upgrade the montage m’s sequencer with step recording and piano roll + automations this awesome synth deserves to be a proper workstation especially considering its huge polyphony!

@SOPM2007

6 ай бұрын

Not only that. The effect section should enhance for complete vocal processing, a more sophisticated vocoder with different band counts and more control over the carrier source. And vocal harmony of course. The user interface should be completely renewed, not only in parts. The fiddly handling of arppegio patterns should definitely improved. Keyboard control for all 16 parts without MIDI routing tricks. And there're still a lot more to make it the perfect and complete workstation synth.

Yamaha came for blood with this 🥶

Bravo! Bravo! Manuele at 52:00 that was amazing!

BUT THIS GUY PLAYING IS BEASTLY💪🎶

Thanks for the in-depth discussion - won't deny I'm very excited by this release, particularly with the ESP integration :)

Un Synth stratosferico! 🎹💖 Complimenti a Emanuele! 🎶👌😉

@doctorsynth1

3 ай бұрын

Brava!

Delighted this will shortly be available as there will be lots of old Montage for sale at good second hand prices.

Yes ! Modulating the LFO speed using the big dial , knob , thing .Will the poly after touch of the M8 be editable with the software application ? I wish I could click the like button a hundred more times .

Please tell me there’s a simple Arpeggio menu with time divisions, octaves, and basic options like Order played, up, down, up/down, random etc. That is one of the most glaring omissions from the original Montage. I don’t want to program an Arp, I just want a menu with basics like on Sequential 6 series synths.

@philclendeninn771

9 ай бұрын

If you own a MONTAGE you’ll find the ‘classic’ Arpeggio Types by using Arpeggio Category Search (purple) MainCategory = SynCp, SubCategory = General, starting with Arp Number #5972 “MA_Up Oct1”… you’ll find ‘Up Oct2’, ‘Up Oct3’, ‘Up Oct4’, Down, Up/Down, etc., etc., etc. In the new MONTAGE M __MainCategory = SynCp, SubCategory = General, starting at #6467…

@CharlieStiger

9 ай бұрын

I appreciate the reply, Phil. I recall many of your posts on the Yamaha Synth forum trying to navigate frustrated users through the complexities of the original Montage. It has to be challenging to communicate so many design technicalities, workarounds and limitations. While I applaud the new MIDI channel liberation and straightforward implementation as a (potential) master controller on the new series, the blatant lack of a simple arp menu will continue to be the dead horse I beat. It’s what truly keeps it from being a master controller (for me). I’m aware of the endless catalogue of arp numbers, but there is nothing fast nor convenient about them. Nor are they flexible in any way for real time performances. Is there a note order arp I’m unaware of that will play the notes in the order I play them? Say I play a Cmaj7 starting with G then to C, B, E and then switch the order to E first, etc. Note Order is available on almost all basic synth arps. And how about time divisions? Can I change the arpeggio on the fly from 1/16th to 1/4T or 1/32nd synced to tempo? If so, that would be fantastic, but given I’ve had the Montage 6 since it was released in 2016, I’ve never been able to find or conjure such settings. If a simple to use menu isn’t front and center as a starting place for arps on this new M series, it should definitely be implemented in a firmware update. I’ll take the basic arp patterns I can change on the fly with the twist of a knob or push of a button any day over the whopping 11k convoluted patterns. Who wants to audition thousands of generic arps to figure out if they’ll work? Not me. The classic arps (especially note order and random) can be played and manipulated real time to come up with very satisfying uniquely played phrases in the moment. If it’s a matter of tediously programming a preset with all these said simple arps available at the touch of a button and it can be done with a bit of elbow grease, perhaps that could be a preset you all put together for a future firmware update? It’d still be a far cry from the dedicated menu that should’ve been there from the outset. The only real solution I can see for such a possibility with Montage is to add a MIDI controller with these basic arp features to the USB port. But then, it still wouldn’t allow for the Montage to assign such basic patterns to external gear as a master controller, would it? But more so, additional hardware to perform these simplicities for such a high end piece of gear is a real shame. Again, I appreciate your reply in this matter. I’m simply venting seven years of frustration and now renewed shock that this was still overlooked by all the Yamaha technocrats when engineering their latest and greatest feat of ingenuity. I can honestly say if this is eventually rectified, I will definitely be picking one up. Until then, it’s a hard pass for me.

Blake has been a BUSY guy doing all these videos for this release.

LAST QUESTION. WHATS THE POINT OF PAYING $4K IF ONLY ONE MODEL COMES WITH POLY AFTER TOUCH? THATS A TERRIBLE OVERSIGHT

The Explanation By Joel was really hard to watch , Sorry but i skipped this part . quite unclear and chaotic .....

Can we please get Montage M specific videos that detail controller assignments? The majority of patches need to be modified to take advantage of the new features including the segmented ribbon control and poly after touch. While much better, it still appears not to be simple, straight forward process. Roland does a good job to provide videos on specific topics to take advantage of their features/benefits. If this content does exist somewhere other than a printed manual, please share. Thank you!

Do the anx engine have glide function legato or all setting?

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What happens to the 9th drawbar? What kind of workaround was implemented? Do the top 2 sit on the same slider or the bottom two? Maybe one is just left out?

@davidknight754

7 ай бұрын

It is there, just in a second part. You would have to use part 1 for the 8 bars and part 2 for the final bar. The performances I’ve seen also do not reverse the faders like drawbars on the second part which means you raise the fader to turn it up as opposed to lowering the fader from part 1….

Wurden die Probleme behoben das man endlich einen sample normal nutzen kann mit dem portamento ? Und wurde das Crossfade portamento übernommen ? 😊

Do you know when they arrive in the shops in europe?

@MrFn65

9 ай бұрын

They are already in the UK now. Played it today!! Excellent board !

aftertouch adds another $500. people are alreadyWHINNING about the prices!

Is montage midi 2.0?

Does the montage 76 key come close to this engine? Because I don’t know where it would fit in my studio.

Wondering if Yamaha will make the new ANx engine available in the MODX + series at some point with an os update and if that is possible at all? Also the AWM2 tonal expansion?

@doctor_ivanov

9 ай бұрын

Very wait for MODX+ update with AN-X.

@paulmutter8301

9 ай бұрын

Or a standalone (reasonably priced)unit for us poor modx users without enough memory

@doctor_ivanov

9 ай бұрын

@@paulmutter8301 Something like Reface CS desktop ver.

@victoratanasov6390

9 ай бұрын

Would be great if they are to update the MODX with the ANx engine to do that for the whole line, not only for the plus version, but for the original and regular one as well.

@doctor_ivanov

9 ай бұрын

@@victoratanasov6390 I think its possible for MODX and MODX+. Just need 16 notes of polyphony for AN-X (reduce FM-X polyphony).

😂😂❤

No séquencer ? no Drum édit ?

Fabulous....but mono !!!!

No Poly-Aftertouch on M7? Synths like ASM-Hydrasynth and Waldorf-Iridum have Poly-Aftertouch on their synth action keybed. Why such a stupid decision Yamaha? Why Poly-Aftertouch for Pianists? This should have been a common feature. Synth/Key players prefer 76/61 keybeds.

Please add subtitles for hearing add, bone oscillator and cochlear implant user, thanks

Why not have the Polyphonic After touch on the M6 And 7; Not acceptable

Sounds good but the pianos need work and I think part of that work is real wood keys

@CTBroadfoot

9 ай бұрын

How will that change the sound? I don’t see how wooden keys is necessary as long as the action is decent, and it would also add unnecessary weight.

@Michael-le5ph

8 ай бұрын

really??? wooden keys. are you just making up stuff to complain about? some people are never satisfied.

Joel’s segment was incomprehensible even at .75x speed. Terrible choice for this presentation!

what i am hearing is fast playing and everything drowning in effects, fast talking too. the point with the vcm effect for the organ, how come for five grand i can't get nine drawbars.

New flagship synthesizer presentation in MONO?

:0

sad the ui looks dated already

Synth brzmia tak dziecinnie brak im pazura

we need a real workstation, what happen to the sequencer????

@PrestonLucas

4 ай бұрын

each performance has a built in sequencer - create a performance with instruments of choice and record

The audio is in Mono, how do you guys make such a stupid mistake in 2023??

@shehzadamurthy1983

9 ай бұрын

@@herunderwear what other issues does this board have?

& where in hell do you edit midi notes & controls all together ? no "event edit" window ? no midifiles control ? who the hell would pay so much money for a sound bank...... without full midi control. Korg would have never dump a full midifile control over ctrls & notes, while yamaha did that mistake from motif x to montage / modx / & finally insisting in M, ignoring 2 years of reports. Korg, Roland, Kurzweil & many others believe in full user control & evolving in sequence creation with total accuracy over passing days & more. & it's not even a costs issue, cause motif had the "event edition" code.. Sayonara Yamaha montage / Modx / &.. M

@luucdentoom6955

9 ай бұрын

Maybe in a coming firmware update. We should not forget that they developed this new line of Montage with the vision of upgrading it over time, just like they did with the original Montage and Modx series. And I think a lot of people will be buying this board, to me it seems a big upgrade from the original Montage series.

@herunderwear

9 ай бұрын

​@@luucdentoom6955 You sound hopeful.. ive mentionned that i had already sent this report to the japanese staff by email & they denied it, it wouldn't have taken them so much to even insert the programing code of the event editor of motif into the montage M's rom. the way people play will produce displaced notes that a score editor will never put on the right place or guess in the place of where exactly humans wanted specific notes to be. without proper scores, plagiats occur, you can't rely on music only in terms of juridiction. & people in a musical osmosis can't amuse themselves going to their computer to verify all midi controls without human memory issues, a computer is not a music instrument in appearance either, u loose the feel of musicality & when people are in a racks system, moving a chair to another desk to go play with a computer is tiring over time. Also copy / insert is missing & number of times for merging, transpositing, changing velocity.. I'm sceptical about the montage staff adding this missing midi controls into the board. big upgrade or not, it remains a sound bank without control over all actions: "midi records edition"....... If they neglected these sequencer missing reports since YEARS, don't expect it in another upgrade since the first montage. & i won't play the card of moving my ass from my chair to go see how it looks on a computer, but wait for a major new keyboard from Korg.

@luucdentoom6955

9 ай бұрын

@@herunderwear I get the point, but at the same time I’ve never seen a producer or orchestrator here on KZread who had to move his chair from his keyboard to his computer. These people tend to have desks with all their gear in one place as much as possible.

@herunderwear

9 ай бұрын

@luucdentoom6955 See, you don't give a toss about a possible update either. Why not stripping buttons from a synthesizer next time & telling ppl there are computers for that... . & you think the laptop should be over the synthesizer ? or under ? it's either on their left or right, they still have a chair motion, if i wanted to do music on a laptop, i'd toss all my racks to the trassh can. i already have an ipad for the biggest softwares/plugins/vst hoster in the world "seelake as-overview" i don't need to use a computer or ipad where to trash what every gear can't support because of stupîd companies downgrades. if yamaha doesn't want a full control over midi data on their keyboards, like i said, i'll be more than happy to wait for a futurist korg workstation, cuz they dont seem to disregard clients at Korg. Since centuries, synthesizers arrived with a rec button, which was called sequencer & evolved over time, & i'm not gonna go play with a computer & loose the feeling of musicality because yamaha decided that a specific part of the os should be tossed. It's like selling shoes without laces & having the seller telling you "can't you find shoe laces in the actual market or afford it ?". I don't use computers for music, besides my ipad & won't play their game.

@Michael-le5ph

8 ай бұрын

@@herunderwear some people have an area with a desk with a computer on it. sorry if you dont' . go buy a roland fantom or fantom o. fantom o can do it for half the price as the Montage M. If not don't buy a Yamaha, buy something else.

YOU DONT HAVE ONE GOOD GOSPEL GUY TO TRY IT OUT AND GIVE HIS THOUGHTS? NOT ONE? AT LEAST ONE HIP HIP PRODUCER

@Michael-le5ph

8 ай бұрын

these are marketed to all styles. not specifically to gospel.