Team Jack Thorthon!!! Who's with me??!! 👍

@pinkrose1438

4 жыл бұрын

👍👐😊

@kulcsocska

4 жыл бұрын

If you ask me its neither (of course its neither on Lucas and Nathan) beacuse Lucas has too many secrets, and Nathan, because she doesn't want to broken like the way she was with Jack (but, I think that there's a possibility for them to bring back Jack, he faked his death to protect Elizabeth)

@taftpower6978

4 жыл бұрын

Jessica Pinkston agree

@sky-qb4yx

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with you 💯

@lizzywood6107

4 жыл бұрын

I know right? i actually cried for like, 3 days after he died!

Jack was nathan and Lucas in one. He was funny, he made her things, supported her writing, challenged her......

@jessicak.3959

4 жыл бұрын

I think so too!

@AmyBarkerPhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@starlasunshine6625

4 жыл бұрын

I know! I love the two actors that play Jack & Elizabeth! I hope to see them together in another movie!

@zephygliss1820

3 жыл бұрын

Lucas doing the same things as Jack. he's funny, he made her things ( the library ) supported her writing, took her to see one of her favorite authors, challenged her and inspiring her to write a novel. Lucas been good to her and really loves her

Team Jack Thornthon forever and ever in my opinion

@Kjmck-pl1jk

4 жыл бұрын

Courtney Otoole I agree 100%

@ktwel690

4 жыл бұрын

I love Jack but we can’t change the past. We must look at the future.

No team Nathan, no team Lucas. Team Jack Thornton forever 💕💞

@courtneyotoole1018

4 жыл бұрын

I totally agree for team jack Thornton forever

@kbvlogs2824

4 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU SOMEBODY

@MrsButtersworth82

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously!!!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

@naomiclark5219

4 жыл бұрын

I’M STILL NOT OVER THAT!!!!!!!!!!😣😖😫😩🥺😢😭

@MrsButtersworth82

4 жыл бұрын

Naomi Clark Neither am I! 😩😢😭 I stopped watching then binged seasons 5 and 6 over the weekend.

Martin Cummins and Lori Loughlins would have had an amazing love story. Secretly always wanted Abigail and Henry gowin too get together in the show!!! 😂

@annecarter1666

4 жыл бұрын

I totally wanted Abigail and Henry to get married!!!

@annecarter1666

4 жыл бұрын

@Hearty Fan Wouldn't have bothered me. Henry and Abigail were just perfect for each other! They needed each other.

@annecarter1666

4 жыл бұрын

@Hearty Fan Yep. Well, she has done a lot for him, encouraged him and been there for him.

@annecarter1666

4 жыл бұрын

@Hearty Fan Right. I so wanted them to get together. Thanks a lot for crushing my dream, Hallmark. 😡

@amacl404

4 жыл бұрын

Ann H.S. I thought i was the only one !

Team jack Thortan forever. Duhhhh but if i had no choice to choose i would definently choose team mountie

@valxrie1539

3 жыл бұрын

Connie Hawramy omg hi

Nathan , but the producer will probably bring Jack Wagner the judge into being the one

Always Team Jack

@mariasilviacostanicolaevsk5291

3 жыл бұрын

Team Lucas .

Team Nathan!!

@RoyalMasterpiece

4 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

Nathan and he suddenly knows about writing AND is confident as a humble,strong, sophisticated wise montie. Oh and he is also a carpenter 😄😄😄 😄😊😄🤗🙏🙏🙏

Team jack forever, but unfortunately since he’s gone, I’m obviously going with team Nathan, team Nathan all the way

@karlitavelazco2051

4 жыл бұрын

Alexis Bittner totally agree!!!

@the_piano_diva

4 жыл бұрын

Woo hoo yeah!!

@grgarcia

3 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more!

@zephygliss1820

3 жыл бұрын

team jack forever too, but I choose team Lucas. I honestly don't want another mountie to replace jack in Elizebeth's life, there can only be one mountie forever, and that's Jack. that's why I chose Lucas to be with Elizabeth.

@dontask8093

3 жыл бұрын

Alexis Bittner yes agreed

She neither needs Lucas nor Nathan... she just needs Jack by her side! They fit perfectly like a puzzle! Jack was her soulmate, he proteced her, always cared about her wellbeing and you just could see that he really loved her! He was a real man that Elizabeth needed for her entire life!

@Kris_Heartie15

6 ай бұрын

SO TRUE THERE WILL NEVER BE ANYONE FOR ELIZABETH EXCEPT JACK!

Nathan now....

Team Jack forever

My choice is for Lucas. Please Elizabeth tive hum a chance!!!!

Team Nathan

Team nathan!!🤗🤗

i think it should be Nathan

Team Nathan!!!!❤️️❤️️❤️️❤️️❤️️

Team Nathan!

Team JACK!!! No one else for Elizabeth period!!!!

@marypendergast6722

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think Elizabeth is into necrophilia🤔

@salomeoving4663

4 жыл бұрын

Debra Zacher I agree that Jack was perfect for her but that’s just no option anymore, and if you accept that (like I did) it’s fun to see all this change. Jack also said Elizabeth in the letter that she most move on and find happiness, so it may be sad but it happened, and I hope your gonna love those new boys as the same as Jack. (or all little less then him) and I most certainly hope you love Lucas more just like me 😉😂

Always Jack Thornton!!!!! When Call"s The Heart will never be the same without Jack Thornton!!!! Anyway's I Pick Nathan. Lucas Doesn't amount to Elizabeth. My Opinion. GO TEAM NATHAN!!!!

@ktwel690

4 жыл бұрын

L Salyers, I completely agree with you!!

@kenleygrant1953

4 жыл бұрын

#mountiesforever

@lsalyers1352

4 жыл бұрын

@@kenleygrant1953Thanks.

@lsalyers1352

4 жыл бұрын

@@ktwel690 Thanks.

Well I like lucas

Team Nathan, again! She understands that his job is important and the situation is quite different! More susceptible and compassionate toward parenting! I just cannot stand manipulation especially when Lucas sees Nathan. Nathan’s feelings are from the Heart! Lucas new and exciting, but sincere? Just my opinion!

nathan

Team Lucas , she already dated a mounty also ir she Is with Nathan she Is always going yo be comparing Nathan with jack. Also if she Is with Nathan she Is Putin her selve to the same risk AND she gas been through so much pain that se dont want her yo get hurt again. Plus Lucas Is a new aire misterius AND bad ass AND he Challenges her in different ways

Team Lucas 100%

Team Lucas !! Of course 😄😄

Team Nathan 🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽

team Nathan here!

Nooo! Team Nathan!!

Team Lucas

Team Lucas all the way❤❤❤

My entire family is very adamant about NATHAN!!! NATHAN ! NATHAN! NATHAN! NATHAN all the way.

@ktwel690

4 жыл бұрын

Joshua Parker- Same!

@jenl.6157

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! :)

@mackenziep.2959

4 жыл бұрын

OMG SAME!!!!!!!

@kalleebaxter2576

4 жыл бұрын

Nathan for life

@jackelinetouro9938

4 жыл бұрын

Lucas.... Lucas...Lucas, shure!!!

As much as I am team nathan, I feel like it would be weird for her to be with another mountie

Team Nathan! Lucas is too manipulative! Nathan is more parental!

When i first saw team nathan team lucas i thought it was about one tree hill😂😂😂😂😂😂i miss this show so much😭😭😭😭😭

@kellydamaris7299

4 жыл бұрын

Saaaame!! 🤣😩

@pems0698

4 жыл бұрын

hahaha yes

I haven't seen the new season yet, but I'm already team Nathan because he plays a character in my favorite TV show (Heartland and he plays Mitch Cutty)

@marisamachado2363

4 жыл бұрын

Jack tem que voltar

@sabrina.tigoudar4464

4 жыл бұрын

Omg I never finished that show

@alyssagadison7987

4 жыл бұрын

exactly that one fo the big reasons I'm team Nathan

@allyteichroeb537

4 жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh I love HEARTLAND! And yes I’m on team Nathan all the way!!

@conster326

4 жыл бұрын

Yes!!! I love Mitch!!!

Loved Jack, told her she carry on. Team Nathan but does she need another Mountie? I feel she has more chemistry with him than Lucas.

Nothing wrong with being in love with another mountie. It shows growth making the safe choice is not mature, it's taking a cowards way out

@sophiakelly1781

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!!!!! #TeamNathan So true!!!! It does show growth. Love Is Love, it doesn't matter who you choose. let's say you're in love with an military Soldier, just because he can possibly die doesn't mean you would stop loving him. So people need to chill out about this. Nathan is the one. He really cares. Lucas clearly doesn't care. Do you remember when he asked her out!!!! Doesn't he realize she just lost her husband??? like a year ago!!!! Nathan is more respectful and hasn't done that. Just another reason I like him. And he listens better than Lucas. He understands what she's been through. because He's been through similar stuff, so he understands. People think Nathan was a baby just because he walked out when Elizabeth was dancing with Lucas. Which isn't true he was giving her space. And letting her do what she wanted. Which just goes to show it's going to be Nathan. #TeamNathan

@mrsacos

4 жыл бұрын

Sophia Kelly very well said!!!

@dadat17

4 жыл бұрын

@@sophiakelly1781 wow well said

Team Nathan!!!!

Team Nathan, more genuine and honest, not to mention incredibly attractive!!

@ABlife21

3 жыл бұрын

Yass!

I like Lucas more, still i wished Jack didn't died. Even if the show end up on their wedding.

@taftpower6978

4 жыл бұрын

akane saotome I hate Lucas ugly monster

@the_piano_diva

4 жыл бұрын

@@taftpower6978 he's a nice guy I'm sure, but I still like Nathan better 😊

Team Lucas all the way!!!!!!! It would have been nice to see Elizabeth without any love interest for this season but since this isn’t the case I’m gonna go with Lucas. Elizabeth has already been in love and married to a Mountie so we need to see someone different with her now

I love both actors but I gotta say Team Nathan.

I choose jack but Lucas has better hair

I think team Nathan is better but the best team is TEAMJACK

Team Nathan....wish they get together

Team lucas

Team Lucas!

Lucas,I love the attraction they have for one another..I think the only attraction was/is that he is a mountie...Lucas pushes her on her writing..very handsome..honestly it's not fair to put Elizabeth thru this after losing the love of her life...she's being pulled in all directions.she doesn't want to hurt anyone..she's not the type to be put between two men..so don't know why the writer did this...

@lllowkee6533

4 жыл бұрын

Angela Teague -- Lucus tried to lure Elizabeth with books. Always another book! Team Nathan forever .

#teamlucas por favor

Team Lucas here. Don't like the awkward hand touch moment in the library with Nathan, corny Nathan.

@valentinerose

4 жыл бұрын

I love this chain so much🥰🤣 Thank you for understanding this all! Nathan gives this snarky side smirk thing that makes him come off as condescending, I don’t like him at all

Though I always wished Jack never died I am team Nathan. I would love to see Elizabeth have a mother-daughter bond with Ali.

I’m team Jack😔💔

#TeamJack 🤧😣💔😢

Although I was VERY Team Jack, he is gone and she needs to move on. I am Team Lucas. First of all, he is NOT a Mountie. Elizabeth with Nathan seems like a Mountie Jack replacement. Lucas is something different. He brings her a piece of her family upbringing and sophistication. He is also educated and "traveled" as she is. I see more in common in Elizabeth and Lucas than with Nathan. The S7 finale didn't disturb me. She cares for them both and the thought of Nathan dead then seeing him alive, of course, would have driven her into his arms. Especially with him being a Mountie. It doesn't mean she cares more for him than Lucas. I am sorry that Lucas had to see it, though!

@zephygliss1820

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. team Lucas

@maryjoyquilantang7000

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you. You just spill out what's on my mind. #TeamLucas

I can see that people are saying that she shouldn’t be with Nathan because of the risks and she could go through what she went through with Jack , but the thing about that is , life is a risk ! And Elizabeth understands that , nobody likes it but it’s life . + plus she could go through that with Lucas too , he takes risks himself .. look at Lee , he wasn’t a Mountie and he still ended up hurt and they were scared .. If you don’t take risk you are honestly not living ... Im Team Nathan since the first day he talked to her , I love the tension between them and I could really see them together happy with Ally & Jack ... they are both great parents and he could be something new even with all the risks .. ❤️

TEAM NATHAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #teamnathan

@80077655

3 жыл бұрын

I could have believed you felt that way if you had only added a few more exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NATHAN!!!

Nathan all the way!

NATHAN NATHAN NATHAN NATHAN NATHAN NATHAN NATHAN NATHAN NATHAN NATHAN NATHAN!!!!!!!! I think Elizabeth needs to have a little piece of jack with her all the time, so with baby jack, AND Nathan, it will be perfect.

Team Nathan! Lucas is a dream and bring him a lovely lady just not Elizabeth.

@patriciagill9513

4 жыл бұрын

I agree...the character can't think of her name right now the one that works on the telegraph and phones would fit Lucas perfectly..

@lizzylife2458

4 жыл бұрын

YASSSS I TOTALY AGREE

@patriciagill9513

4 жыл бұрын

I couldn't think of her name at first but is Fiona she put in the telegraph and phones in Hope Valley. She would be perfect for Lucas. I think Elizabeth is infatuated with Lucas because he is always doing things for her he is buying her affection. But Nathan has her ❤ heart.

@Alexis_Bittner

4 жыл бұрын

Carol Golembiewski there you go, there’s one way to say it

@dadat17

4 жыл бұрын

@@patriciagill9513 you just put the right words, Lucas is buying her affection for me too. Anyway, Nathan hasn't made his move yet, just watch out for sure he will sweep away Elizabeth's feet.

Team Lucas!!

Nathen

I'm going with Nathan...He says so much without even saying a word...It's in his eyes how much he loves Elizabeth...There is so much chemistry between Nathan and Elizabeth...I do not see that with Lucus...I believe Elizabeth truly loves Nathan ,that embrace when she realized Nathan wasn't dead told it all...However I hope When calls the heart continues with many more seasons...so with that being said let Lucus Elizabeth and Nathan as they are in season 8 as it's a very sexy part the three play...When you say nothing at all...

Team Nathan, all the way!

Team Lucas!!!! So many reasons why I choose Lucas! Nathan likes Elizabeth but he hasn't don't anything about it. Lucas on the other hand is taking an opportunity when he sees it.💜💜💜 #TeamLucas

I'll always be a jack fan but I say Team nathan ♡♡♡

@brendaanderson6059

4 жыл бұрын

Team Lucas all the way

@ktwel690

4 жыл бұрын

@Elizabeth Wood.... Yes!! Totally agree!

Team Lucas for Elizabeth. They have the chemistry and tension, can challenge each other etc. And lets not forget the library. He has a shared love of books and literature

@priscillagutierrez1065

4 жыл бұрын

Vari Sol agree with chemistry and tension. Team Lucas!

@salomeoving4663

4 жыл бұрын

Vari Sol I completely agree

@valentinerose

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! My whole fam is wild about Lucas

I think Elisabeth's decision will be Nathan, even if he's a mountie.If you think a little ,Clara was concerned about Jessie,about loosing him ,but in final everything was OK.I think that's a clue given by the script.So I think Elisabeth will assume this "risk" and in final everything will be OK. Anyway,this is fiction but...I will love to see that happens

@sherrithrasher6143

3 жыл бұрын

I think Elizabeth was made to be a wife of a Mountie because she gets the life and purpose. Her feelings for Nathan are very obvious in that he isn’t a pushover and keeps her guessing but Lucas is a pushover. He only started playing with the baby when he noticed that little jack responds to Nathan. She didn’t hesitate to run up and hug Nathan but Lucas got none of it. Lucas is reckless.

Team Nathan! He brings out her spirit and she will be a mom to Allie and he's so good for her ! Yes they have the chemistry!

Team Nathan! He's more safe and more like Jack!

Nathan!! Fine as hell and more manly. Theres more chemistry there as well 🙂

@JustMe-ec2ph

4 жыл бұрын

Reading some of the comments it's so funny some people say the chemistry is between Elizabeth and Lucas, none with Nathan, while many other comments agree with you. Just proves my point that chemistry can be different to each viewer and should had replaced Jack's character. Some people would had thought that no one could replace the actor while others would had thought they could replace the actor in order to keep the character Jack and to stay in line with the books. Oh, well, my opinion really doesn't count as I stopped watching the show when Jack died. Never any desire to watch again but I will check in at times when it comes up in my youtube feed just to see what's going on LOL

@cheryltriplett8444

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustMe-ec2ph You should go back! I felt the same way but was happily surprised how much I enjoyed season 6/7. The show continues to be wonderful, full of thoughtful stories and community caring. The addition of the new characters opens up to new and interesting stories for all the characters of Hope Valley.

@JustMe-ec2ph

3 жыл бұрын

@@cheryltriplett8444 Nahhh, still have no desire to watch. I do think if they hadn't strung us along for so many seasons with will they or won't they (J&E get together) then when they finally get together he goes missing many episodes comes back they get married, gone again, then boom dead, maybe I would had still wanted to watch but IMO they just treated the fans awful and after Jack died my desire to keep watching died, too. But for those that still enjoy it, that's great. I just decided to not let my emotions go through that again. Love Hallmark movies because if I don't like the ending I have only wasted a couple hours of my time, not 5 years LOL

@cheryltriplett8444

3 жыл бұрын

Just Me I do get that. If the writers continue with this triangle with Nathan, Lucas, and Elizabeth, I will be disappointed and bored. Elizabeth is better than that! You don’t create a list to choose who you are going to love. If your feelings are confused then they are not there! So, we will see with season 8. I do have to say, I finished the end of season 5(could not watch the sadness) and season 5, 6, and 7 all at once during quarantine. I feel they need to get Elizabeth(quickly) back on the track she was on - love and family.

#TeamNATHAN c'mon what's all this Lucas nonsense??? Lucas presented himself as a sketchy money hoarder. I perceived the donation of the library space more of a self-serving mean to gain Elizabeth's trust and affection, than a true gesture of appreciation and commitment to the town. That for me is a NO for Elizabeth's noble, dignified, and non-materialistic character. Nathan is the guy!!!

@salomeoving4663

4 жыл бұрын

Caribe01 he may be sketchy, though he has he soft spot for Elizabeth. Elizabeth may be noble, but what Lucas did wasn’t to make her think that she can be persuaded. It was because he is a genuinely good guy. Also I believe the money part isn’t true, he gives way more about Elizabeth then money (so you can see in “a call from the past”). I also think, even though she is a strong independent woman, she can really use a strong man for little Jack. Nathan is mentally not strong. He may have experience with his niece, but it’s not going really well yet. I wanna make clear that this is a opinion and not a personal attack, im not saying your opinion is wrong.

@caribe0186

4 жыл бұрын

Salomé Oving I wish to see her with Nathan, although I look forward for the character development of Nathan and Lucas. Let’s see what the writers have come up with ;)

@salomeoving4663

4 жыл бұрын

Caribe01 thank you for the understanding, many people don’t let others have a opinion. And I agree, let’s just have fun watching it and we will see what the writers come up with!

I will always love Jack Thornton more in this role. Though this season I have to say Lucas, my reason: -I think it will be hard for Elizabeth to be with a Mountie again. (because if he gets send away too) I think it will be a anxiety spot for her. -Lucas is mysterious and a little harsh, though he has a soft spot for Elizabeth. -The moment that those people wanted to kidnap Lucas and Elizabeth, Lucas said he’d give all his money if Elizabeth would be let free, ofcourse you would think this is a normal human reaction. (in a movie/serie mostly) But keep in mind that Lucas is a businessman and mostly there really anxious with there money. -Nathan is a little a shy guy, that’s cute but Elizabeth came out of a relation with a real man. (yall cant disagree with that) Lucas is much more certain. And as a single mother I think Elizabeth needs a real, certain man. (Even though she is a terrific mother on her own!)

@madison8355

4 жыл бұрын

And not going to lie it would be weird if Elizabeth dated her students father

@salomeoving4663

4 жыл бұрын

Patrick Star he is her uncle, but I still agree with you!

@sariah6284

4 жыл бұрын

Patrick Star uncle correction

I say team Nathan. I think the show was originally supposed to be about a montie and a teacher. And he really cares about her and when he held baby jack it was Soooooo!!!!!!! Cute.

@None-dj8iy

4 жыл бұрын

Nooooo way!!!!

@sophiakelly1781

4 жыл бұрын

@@None-dj8iyso true!!!!!

@salomeoving4663

4 жыл бұрын

Aussie.Sunset I completely agree, dating a Mountie again won’t only be hard for her but also it would be a pattern. It would almost look like she is only interested in guys who are Mountie and not the person by itself, ofcourse we know that’s not the case but you get the point. (Message for team Nathan) I want to make it clear that this is my opinion and not a personal attack, I am not meaning to say with this comment that your opinion is wrong, but I am and will stay team Lucas (after Jack and little Jack)

Team Lucas!!!

Elizabeth and Nathan

Team Nathan!!!!!

Team Nathan mainly because he has experience with kids and has already saved Elizabeth’s life

Jack 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

Jack died so Hope Valley could have its first production of the Bachelorette. Who will Elizabeth give the final rose? Tune into the Bachelorette: Hope Valley

Big,strong Mountie vs A Bartender!

@Asteczz

4 жыл бұрын

Jesse James 777 Mountie

@ABlife21

3 жыл бұрын

Mountie pls.

Bring back Dottie to be Bill Avery's love interest.

Team Lucas because he’s taking the next step and Nathan is not.

@ariannacavner5760

4 жыл бұрын

But also because Lucas said in last episode he said he would wait for the love of his life.for ever how long it would take and looked at her.

Here in Brazil, the record channel launched WHEN CALLS THE HEART in the middle of the month of August, 2021, and it is being the biggest success. I liked this video

Team Jack Thornthon forever and ever! Una così grande storia d'amore non si dimentica! Elizabeth/Erin&Jack/Dan forever in our hearts.

TEAM LUCAS! He's so much more interesting. And it would be weird for her to be with another mountie. And they have more chemistry

1 jack 2 lucas

Team Nathan all the way. Nathan has almost the same personality as Jack. If you remember carefully at first Jack and Elizabeth were not each others biggest fans. They also did not have a lot in common on the surface but it was on the inside. Nathan and Elizabeth have great chemistry together. They really understand each other and they really really like each other. Lucas is more of a friend type rather than a boyfriend or husband type.

Team Nathan , yes!

@ereneschwartz3332

4 жыл бұрын

Kavan you have it right! Love this show. And miss Abigail

I will forever and always be team Jack Thornton but I feel like team Lucas cause one he pursued Elizabeth more than Nathan did two Jack built Elizabeth the school and Lucas built her a library three I feel like he would be a really cute and good step dad to baby Jack and finally four he makes her smile the smile Jack always did

@ratanyiapage6610

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed! I mean nobody will ever replace Mountie Jack. But honestly, I know the original idea was about the story of Elizabeth and a Mountie but since that plan got derailed with because of Daniel leaving, they could really take it in any direction they wanted. And plus, I REALLY LIKE LUCAS 😍 I honestly believe he genuinely has feelings for her and would do anything to make her happy. And whenever he sees that he's upset her, he's so apologetic even when it benefits her.

my team: ELIZABETH NEEDS NO MAN!!!!!!!!!!😌💅💖

I like how she refers to herself in third-person

Lucas!!!!!! Nathan can NEVER replace Jack. Besides, there's obvious chemistry between the Lucas and Elizabeth. A relationship between Elizabeth and Nathan would be boriiiiing 😴

Nathan

Anothee mountie? Really queen? Haven't learn nothing from Jacks death?? Team Lucas all the way they have the chemistry and the tension!

@sophiakelly1781

4 жыл бұрын

#teamNathan

@ktwel690

4 жыл бұрын

The only reason that Jack died is because Dan needed to move on. This could be the case for either characters. I think if people are team Lucas just because they don’t want Elizabeth to go through another heartbreak is not a valid reason. Just something for you to consider.

Team Nathan vs Team Lucas... Giving me the One Tree Hill vibes.. #teamlucas in OTH and #teamlucas on WCTH

Jack Thorton ♥️♥️♥️