Kevin here, I wanted to respond to a few comments about what I'm doing now. I've worked a couple driving-based jobs since I quit in 2021 - one delivery and now working on doing private student transport (mostly transporting displaced homeless students to and from school). I'm not totally sure what's next. I've been applying to jobs the last few weeks in Adult Education (ie GED classes), administrative type roles at community colleges, and mentor-based jobs for youth. Nothing has worked out yet. I'm hopefuly I can find a teaching-adjacent environment I can work with. My backup plan after giving this some time, if I cannot find an environment I can work with, is to get a CDL and drive semis. So things are still settling :).

@TragicallyINFJ

Жыл бұрын

Best of luck to you!!!

@terrim8928

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your open and honest discussion. God willing, next year will be the last for me.

@kcc879

Жыл бұрын

I’ve also been finding it very difficult to just get interviews outside of teaching. I’ve now taken on a small temporary five weeks teaching math and I’m a humanities teacher. Still same anxiety and difficulty in sleep and weight gain. I get so down about not finding paid work. Plenty will take me on as a volunteer. I need to pay bills so I can’t do volunteer. Good luck with everything tho. Something has to land right?

@mariekatherine5238

Жыл бұрын

@@kcc879 I got fired and basically lost everything in 2021 for not taking a covid vaccine. When I say everything, that includes my retirement, benefits, etc. after 34 years. I took a break for a year to care for my elderly parents, and after their passing, I tried in an adjacent state that left teachers’ medical decisions up to them. The only stipulations in most schools was signing a disclaimer not to sue and taking a daily Covid test at your own expense. I thought, “Great! I’d like to teach in the lower grades!” I had no luck at all. What I discovered is that everyone who got fired is essentially black-listed as a possible extremist. This includes those who had medical exemptions! The ADA offered no protection for anyone. Until very recently, no unvaccinated people were allowed in the buildings, including parents. When I made this discovery, I decided I’m out, totally. Now, I have to work, no choice. I took an entry level position in a printing business. We do everything from invitations to fine art replicas and framing. As a sideline, I design liturgical linens, altar clothes, vestments, and so forth. I miss the children, (well, most of them), but not all the stress and B.S. If you’re having trouble finding a job in education, have you checked your records from your last position? I wish you the best of luck! (Maybe you can drive semi and go into teaching it?)

@grantboardman7880

Жыл бұрын

I'm still looking for a good fit for myself, even 20 years in---I've taught K-12, at the college level, as a community college adjunct, at charter schools, and even at private schools. It's rough to say the least. As an empath, I love building meaningful relationships in the classroom, so terrible student behavior and gaslighting admins and parents just breaks me.

Anyone with a shred of empathy should go nowhere near a modern public school.

@FranBenjamin-lc9uk

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@ebert8756

Жыл бұрын

Unless you wanna harden upl! That has value too .

@garysmith4796

Жыл бұрын

@ebert8756 prison will harden too, but at least their they have rules and they have enforcement

@maryl234

5 ай бұрын

or an ounce of SELF respect.

@Apricot90

4 ай бұрын

Where else shall empaths go? It's ghetto out there in general! People are mentally ill and aggressive.

Teaching is an empaths worst nightmare. With other professions you walk through the door knowing you might have a problematic person or two. With teaching the entire class is basically against you because all the kids follow the problematic childs lead and there is no support. It’ll literally shave years off your life.

@herbertharris7316

Жыл бұрын

This is why administrators and teachers alike should deal with problematic students from jump to minimize as much of the problems and misconduct with other students in the classroom.

@nopereradicator

Жыл бұрын

@@herbertharris7316 Admins and teachers are a big part of the problem.

@jillsalkin7389

Жыл бұрын

@@herbertharris7316 And what do you do with parents of these kids who do not get on board, and often are angry that you're telling them their kid is disruptive, or needs some intervention??

@herbertharris7316

Жыл бұрын

@@nopereradicator that's true too! Before the school year begins, administrators, staff and teachers usually meet to discuss classroom rules and procedures so we're all on the same page. For instances, no cell phones in the school or in the classroom which on Day 1, gets thrown out the window along with the rest of things that as administrators and teachers had agreed upon.

@herbertharris7316

Жыл бұрын

@@jillsalkin7389 That is where the school administrators and district administrators needs to get involved. To deal with parents who don't want to get on-board with the learning and with the social responsibility objectives.

The things that women put up with as teachers is insane. The fact that the majority of teachers are women and probably face all kinds of gender targeted abuse that gets swept under the rug is gut wrenching. Thank you, sir, for calling this out.🥺

@nickev11

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, and so many of them have so internalized the misogyny that they refuse to set boundaries. I understand how that happens, but it's sad to witness. I see a lot of women in the profession who have lost their voice and ability or will to assert their needs. They've just accepted it's their fate, as a woman, to absorb abuse at work, at home, and in society. I worry what message this sends to young girls.

@reneedennis2011

Жыл бұрын

​@@nickev11I agree.

@Apricot90

4 ай бұрын

and then they attack other women, passive-aggressively and in nasty ways. I am so sick of this society and system. @@nickev11

@yourtanktopfriend777

Ай бұрын

It sounds like they can’t or a culture to not call the police. That would be anyone’s first instinct and expectation outside of school.

FYI: teaching programs don’t prepare you for classroom discipline or management. It comes with natural instinct, time, and experience. Let me warn you. If you desire to work with at risk students, but you lack presence or a strong command of discipline, RUN don’t walk. I don’t care how noble your intentions are, they will eat you alive. Despite the belief that loving on kids is enough, it’s not enough with all the things you are tasked with doing in a school year.

@mario10zeus

Жыл бұрын

Yep, presence. If you're a large guy or muscular, they are far more likely to listen and maybe obey.

In the real world outside of these schools these kids would be arrested for assault and incarcerated. The education system is collapsing, I have witnessed this violence and fighting this year. The principal started all this social emotional learning and this restorative justice nonsense and the disciplinary issues are totally out of control this year. I have written disciplinary referrals on numerous students and they were deleted or never addressed. This is my last year teaching.

@RobotsCanDoAnything

Жыл бұрын

You just described what I go through all the time.

@pistoffpussycat5778

Жыл бұрын

An admin straight up told me that the State comes down on them if there are too many Black or Hispanic kids in ISS. We're in a Hispanic majority area (at least 75-80%)

@nickev11

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I got fed up with with the lack of realistic framing of student's behaviors. Many of these kids are from communities where violence is normalized, there is gang activity,etc. Situations where disrespecting hte wrong person will get you killed. If it's not a gang member in your neighborhood, it's a cop, or a private citizen when you assault them. Kids who victimize others urgently need to learn the message that one day you're going to mess with someone more unhinged than you and you might end up dead.

@reneedennis2011

Жыл бұрын

OMG 😲!

@garysmith4796

Жыл бұрын

Good for you. Save yourself and your family.

Try throwing a chair or spitting in your boss’s face! How long will you be employed? If a stranger on the street does this, it’s called assault.

A kid called his parent in the middle of class. Handed the phone to me. She's screaming at me so loudly over the phone about something that never happened, that: A. I can't discern the words she is saying and B. The whole class could hear her . How old is the kid? Almost 18. You'd think he'd be worried about being perceived as a mama's boy. But nope. No shame.

@nopereradicator

Жыл бұрын

The cluster B’s are running rampant in this country but no one wants to admit it because they’ll get outcast at best and catch a beatdown most likely.

@RY-os9vw

Жыл бұрын

@pistoffpussycat, I believe it. I’ve had parents “pop up” randomly after their “precious, innocent child” has texted them on the phone because I gave their child a consequence because they were in trouble for something they did (this happened last year). Worse than that the paraprofessional was the one who called me out of my room knowing full well I was not aware of the parent being there (who was angry of course) 😐. The school environment needs to be safe for everyone…including teachers.

@pistoffpussycat5778

Жыл бұрын

@@RY-os9vw Yep. The parents are as entitled and disregulated as the kids.

@SarahR2D2

Жыл бұрын

They are doing this in college as well. They can't advocate for themselves

@FranBenjamin-lc9uk

Жыл бұрын

I've had all of this happen to me. Esp the face time calls👀I was like why is she face timing her kid in class. The she said oh is that your teacher👀. I was so pissed but couldn't say anything. I didn't even say hi. She said mom she teaching or talking to another student. Just crazy.

I liked the point about how difficult and rare it is to plan a lesson and have it go anywhere close to as planned. The level of distractions and disturbances in classrooms is OFF THE CHART to a point where it is completely normal. If a teacher can cover 10% of a lesson, its a success.

@datanimegirl_Jen

7 ай бұрын

I worked as a teacher for a couple years before changing careers. At the school that I worked at, we had to report our lesson plans for each week. Someone took the binder with the lesson plans in it and put a cover on the binder that said "Works of Fiction"

More and more reasons why I homeschool my children. Whenever I need encouragement to keep going I turn on this channel.

@Augfordpdoggie

Жыл бұрын

if you ever need a good teacher-history/english, Im available

@herbertharris7316

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately not for many others, we have to many lazy parents, single-parent homes or both parents working outside the house with no or little dedication to their child's social and intellectual well-being.

@jennifermerritt1985

Жыл бұрын

@@Augfordpdoggie Thank you.

@precocioussceptic4967

Ай бұрын

His point about the social issues among teachers is never talked about. I feel that High school teachers want to be high schoolers for the rest of their lives. They don’t act like professionals with each other.

As a para, this man speaks for most of the staff at our school.

As an empathic former teacher, I FELT EVERY BIT OF THIS INTERVIEW! I also had the a same feeling driving to school & just getting thinking of getting into an accident so I wouldn't have to face what was waiting for me at school. Its such a shame that individuals who care so much endure so much trama just trying to help. But we have to fight our own nature and think of ourselves. GET OUT!

My 2 cents: At this point, after teaching 40+ years and then quitting, I would not recommend ANYONE entering this profession. Teachers have massive organizational and problem-solving skills that they are not being monetarily compensated for. Although I love, children, there are many other careers that are much more rewarding. At this point MANY public-school teaching jobs are physically, mentally, and emotionally abusive. These jobs present as in "no tolerance" and "bullying will not be tolerated" districts, and yet these schools will not protect ANY employees who are physically hurt by students. Once you are injured by a student, you will have to see a workers compensation physician who is paid by the district. See any conflict of interest with that?? On top of that the administration, could try to minimize the violence that the student inflicted because they don't want to admit that there are problems in their school that they are not taking care of. Anyone considering teaching should look at the way the current politicians want to control to the nth degree which books you have in your classroom and ANY innocent remark that you make. It is getting ridiculous. As a teacher, during my last years, I would come to work happy and excited to teach a lesson and would be blindsided by some weird accusation by a principal or parent complaint. At that point, I would have to stop everything and try to remember what the parent or administrator was talking about and try to defend myself.

@treespeakerintermediaartis9715

Жыл бұрын

Yes that is exactly what I am going through u come in happy and excited ready to teach a lesson or u just got some new rewards to give to students and than oh wow here is the complaint against u!!! It’s like really with all the shhh these kids do around this building and they want I discipline you.

@nickev11

Жыл бұрын

You have to have really thick skin to survive, and honestly I don't think that's something most people have cultivated, especially the younger they are. It usually takes some life traumas to really truly cultivate emotional toughness, and I see all kinds of well-intentioned young people being taken advantage of. To me, it's like being a soldier, or working in the ER. You have to have a high tolerance to trauma exposure and an ability to compartmentalize it and not absorb it. Unfortunately, we also want teachers to be empathetic, and very few of us ever cultivate that kind of resilience without doing years of therapy, at least that's been the case for me, 13+ years of treatment in.

@CharlotteStockton

Жыл бұрын

@@nickev11 HOWEVER, there is NO need for education to be like a battlefield or an ER. Much of what is going on is abusive and abuse of a teacher is not to be tolerated.

@giovannapatella6035

10 ай бұрын

Oh, but it's a balanced approach (sarcasm intended) There are no consequences for students , there are only consequences for teachers!

@nvalles2565

5 ай бұрын

Children are not being educated like children but instead are just working parts to a system that helps move money around.

Our schools are unsafe and unstable. How do we measure superintendents and school boards ? How do we know a school has successful management ? What are the standards for a successful superintendent or school board? Based on their measurable ourcomes school administrators and school boards are failures in America from coast to coast. Maybe school boards and superintendents need some standards that we can hold them accountable to? One of those standards needs to be healthy relationships with teachers. And if they dont have healthy relationships with their teachers, it is obviously the school board and superintendent's fault and they need a book study.

@nopereradicator

Жыл бұрын

Good luck with that. The social experiment was a success. Accountability in this country is gone.

@herbertharris7316

Жыл бұрын

It's all apart of the plan in controlling the masses. Render the masses incompetent and not able to think for themselves, by using the educational level to push certain agendas, and then the politicians and the elites can push any agenda that they want. For instance, no consequences for bad behavior in the school and the politician then will turn around and say, we need to pass harsher laws and stiffer penalties to deal with people who commit violence.

@CharlotteStockton

Жыл бұрын

Principals willfully misrepresent the violence going on in school by failing to report and failing to support teachers. Administrators, in turn, fail to report what is going on to the school boards as if things are wonderful because they don't want to lose their jobs. The school board falls for this nonsense and doesn't want to insult the parents so that they can get re-elected. If they were to REALLY deal with student problems, they would be in private sessions for days on end.

@jimbike8064

Жыл бұрын

Yep, like every other profession,, it's the teacher's and frontline workers that are the scapegoats. Gotta blame somebody so I can keep my job.

@nickev11

Жыл бұрын

Most parents really have no clue the level of abuse that is normalized in our schools. Things they absolutely wouldn't (and shouldn't) tolerate themselves. We can't teach kids to be empathetic and accountable but not assertive. By refusing to address abusive behavior we are signalling that it's up to "the rest of us" to tolerate abusive behavior.

Teaching has taken years off my life. I can feel the damage it's done inside. I admire both of you for getting out when you could and while you're young. I did work in one school environment that functioned as it should. It was the first high school I taught in back in the late 80's. The principal's mindset was to protect the academic integrity of the classroom, and all the administrators were on board with her. Teachers were supported when an out of control student was sent to them for discipline. Their message to a kid was "you don't take another student's right to learn away from them" and they were disciplined with enough severity to discourage the same behavior in the future. It was a great learning environment for both students and teachers. My spouse's job took us to another state, and my second high school. No Child Left Behind began the national standards movement, and this is when I began to see the same issues you and Kevin discussed enter into the school environment. In 2011 I made the change to the college level. Unfortunately this is just another level of toxicity. It also contains the pressure to pass all students (to get retention and graduation numbers up), faculty compete for little resources so it makes for adversarial relationships, the service expectation has gotten completely unreasonable and feels like forced unpaid servitude. Faculty that have tenure are mean and lazy, which is a drain on the system. Administration focus on sports and branding. They live in a delusional cloud of marketing themselves and the university brand at all times ignoring the issues at the academic level. Education is just broken at every level.

@katedwards68

Жыл бұрын

Very-well said and sooo true! I’ve been an educator for 33 years…..high school and then college. Everything you said here is spot-on!! It’s a total shame, really.

@herbertharris7316

Жыл бұрын

This message should be re-instituted that as administrators and teachers, *"you don't take another student's right to learn away from other students,"* and disciplinary action will be administered to discourage and not tolerate the same behavior in the future.

@jillsalkin7389

Жыл бұрын

Fortunately for you, it was because of the time you did it. Tragically, it is all unraveling. Who is going to want to do this?

@melliott3681

Жыл бұрын

@@jillsalkin7389 I totally agree. Who in their right mind would go into education today?

@SarahR2D2

Жыл бұрын

You should do an interview with Teacher Therapy. The decline at the college level needs more exposure too

I am not, nor have I ever been a teacher, but I will say this: anyone who's job it is to deal, in any capacity, with groups of people, whether they are 15 or 50, is faced with a losing task. Don't bank on them learning consequences from law enforcement because they, too, have given up trying to enforce any semblance of law on a society that believes that anyone who interferes with their perceived right to do as they see fit, is in the wrong. I'm afraid the only way such people learn consequences is when someone else far worse than themselves teaches them through physical pain that they may not survive to benefit from.

I have a kid with Autism (Asperger's) he is a rule follower and could not understand the other kids crap. We gave up on public school at 6th grade and started homeschooling , I felt so bad for his teachers . The Admins were awful and would never allow them to work with us . They just wanted him gone !!! I was lucky enough to be able to pull him out and homeschool him with K12. You guys know the truth of what our schools have become.

I have done 18 years in the classroom. Every year students' negative behavior is allowed to get worse. Parents argue and 2nd guess what you communicate to them. Parents will support their childrens' negative behavior while they team up with the Administration to throw you the teacher under the bus. I'm a very talented teacher and have a very powerful background. I know I will soon leave the profession not have completed my life long mission of training students to become Engineers. Education is broken by design!

For me, the decision to quit K-12 came shortly after I had a complete breakdown on my way home after a particularly horrid day in the school where I was teaching as a long-term sub. I remember pulling off onto the side of the road five miles from my house, and having a complete meltdown. When I regained my composure long enough to speak in complete sentences, I called a friend, who listened and said "You don't have to do this!" About a month after that event, I returned to my previous career.

@calmingbabysleep1256

7 ай бұрын

That's crazy! What was your previous career?

@Apricot90

4 ай бұрын

Is the teacher pay even worth it in the USA?

@yoururmostimportantthing6736

3 ай бұрын

@@Apricot90hell no!

What is really troubling to me is that there is a lot of research on education that supports certain practices that produce the best outcomes for students, called "evidence-based practices." Since NCLB, the emphasis shifted to producing numerical outputs, like test scores, and "metrics" to represent "student success," with no concern for qualitative outputs, and no concern to uphold evidence-based practices in the classroom that benefit students. The education system has been pillaged by policymakers to produce more wealth for the rich, with no respect for children, and ignoring what we already know is healthy for them and benefits them. There are so many abusers in power and the gaslighting never ends.

@CharlotteStockton

Жыл бұрын

And guess who makes all the money for over testing our children???? The test makers and publihers.

I watched teaching go down hill during the time I started in school in the 70s till today. It seemed as though common sense was thrown out the window in favor of the latest thing out of teaching theory and disconnected administrators. There was a time in the 90s I had thought of going into teaching, sadly I don’t regret my decision not to.

@kris78787

Жыл бұрын

My mother retired from teaching in 2010 after her new principal told her the kids in her class were too quiet and they needed to be talking and teaching themselves. lol

As a Brit looking into this situation, it's amazing to me that a country with so much gun death violence can allow kids they raise to be so disregulated that they are more likely to meet their end at the sharp end of that same gun violence.

@RY-os9vw

Жыл бұрын

@@Iznikroc, no @Beauweir is accurate. The United States is extremely violent nation.

@nickev11

Жыл бұрын

Meanwhile we're raising the type of kids that have so little self control they are likely to commit gun violence. We're obviously not serious about stopping gun violence by actually addressing root causes, another one of the reasons I left. I don't want to have to pre-play out a mass shooting scenario and what I'd do any more.

While working at a school I felt this so much. "how to discipline and administer effective consequences" wasn't something I was taught on the job, nor in my prior education, but I was left to figure it out as I went. The culture around child-rearing has left many people "afraid" of inflicting pain for long-term gains, labeling discipline as even abuse in some cases. This was ingrained in me, and its even taught to kids who learn that the adults won't hurt them no matter what they do or say. The use of discipline and consequences is something that needs to be rediscovered and taught, even to therapists and counselors because if we don't teach consequences early, the consequences will come one way or another later on in life, and possibly be much more costly.

@herbertharris7316

Жыл бұрын

This comment deserve so much attention too. Kudos @kazetatsu7095!💯

@IshtarNike

Жыл бұрын

It's not even pain or hurt. It's upset. The kids are upset they've been disciplined. Previous generations were taught how to accept this. Often the balance was too punitive. But the idea that kids can't ever be upset now is destroying their resilience. No other institution outside school operates like this and we're doing them no favours by pretending they can act like this without any negative consequences and only positive conversations.

@kazetatsu7095

Жыл бұрын

true too,fear of being and causing upset, leading to taking the 'quick' path of least resistance regarding correcting kids' behaviors if those behaviors are corrected at all. The resulting society is already showing in adults who can't handle disappointment, who haven't been able to develop a thick skin, nor take responsibility.

@CharlotteStockton

Жыл бұрын

Consequences DO NOT TRAUMATIZE CHILDREN! They are an OPPORUNITY to learn!!

@susanatkinson3978

Жыл бұрын

Very well said!

People seen to have forgotten that the children grow to be the adults they've make them. Once that child has become an adult, it is very difficult for them to break that cycle. Parents have to start taking responsibility for the behaviour of their children while they're at school and if they misbehave, the parents must back the teacher up and be involved with the discipline process. If I got detention, my mum would essentially say, "sucks to be you". Don't do the homework, do the time. End of story.

You might have vocation, natural talent, everything to become a good teacher, but both "modern audiencies" vibes and the educational systems will burn you like a witch on the stake.

@nickev11

Жыл бұрын

All the good intentions in the world couldn't conceal the abundant institutional failures every where I looked. Yes, being grateful for what's going well is important, but it's pretty toxic to NOT be bothered that in spite of a handful of engaged students most aren't trying at all. THink of the impact that has on other students as well, us not being allowed to express our disgust with their anti social behaviors. I suspect we would have a lot fewer disrespectful kids if we didn't dismiss their disrespect.

Nailed it! Students need discipline and structure that they are missing at home. You are a TEACHER NOT A COUNSELOR OR THERAPIST. You need to hold the line and enforce the rules. Dont be afraid to fail a student, you are cheating them of the wake up call they need to start taking school seriously.

13:40 what annoys me is that it should be obvious that the child has a HUGE motivation to lie in order to get out of trouble. So why, in a situation where the worst consequence is a detention and a talking to, are the parents so eager to bend over backwards to believe their kids? This isn't about sexual abuse or some sort of crime, so it blows my mind that parents are still playing the "I believe my kids no matter what" game. The teacher has no reason to lie. Lying to get kids in trouble is just more work. Seems like people have just totally taken leave of their senses at this point.

@Yahshija

6 ай бұрын

Right. I literally tell my students I don’t want to write referrals, that’s more work for me. I even emailed their parents about it.

Some children as well as adults have malicious intent. I am happy you brought this up because I find it hard to help children understand this. It is as if schools and parents are blowing smoke up their tails teaching kids everyone is their friend. This is not the case. I feel the best way to reduce bullying is to teach children how to deal with bullies to take away the bullies power. I felt the same way Kevin felt, I was beginning to feel that death would be better than life. I asked for FMLA and was denied because I worked for a small private school, so I was forced to put my life and health first and walk away, losing money in the process but still alive.

@pistoffpussycat5778

Жыл бұрын

@@Peter-uy3ti I hear it's the same in Australia too

@nickev11

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! And it drives me nuts that we are implicitly teaching students to tolerate abuse rather than stand up to it! We can teach empathy and kindness and respect while also empowering students (particularly girls) to not stand for the bullshit behaviors of other students.

Thanks for this! As a teacher, I’ve felt like a standup comic with a room full of high energy harassing hecklers. Apparently, it’s because I don’t know what I’m doing. It’s traumatizing.

@nickev11

Жыл бұрын

That's a good comparison. It's basically a competition of who can be the most abusive.

I grew up in the late 90s/early 2000s classroom. The 1 or few "noisy students" per class has now become the 1 or few "calm students" per class phenomenon. Cui bono when discipline is removed from the classroom?

@nickev11

Жыл бұрын

I did too. I have a handful of memories across all my schooling of kids doing severely disrespectful behaviors, and there were consequences. Those same types of behaviors I now witnessed daily in every one of the 8 schools I worked at.

Agree with everything that Kevin said. I will go a step further and say that the dysfunction in our school system is not just an 'accident' of well-meaning social workers and progressives but deliberate at this point. The data, teacher testimonials, falling test scores, increased behavioral issues, high teacher turnovers, are all well documented at this point, so we've reached the tipping point of 'well meaning ignorance' and have crossed into the territory of deliberate sabotage. Why? Because a highly educated informed and united citizenry scares the folks on top.

PBIS, Social Emotional Learning and this Restorative Justice nonsense means taking on the emotions and feelings of the student and that's too much for me to deal with. Over the last few weeks, I've been thinking about the empath aspect. I have Bi-polar 2, and I work hard dealing with strong emotions, especially negative emotions, and the downward spiral of education in stupid administrative policy that adds unnecessary stress on my mental health. At times I have negative thoughts similar to Thanos. I'm leaving teaching next year.

@newmamaful

Жыл бұрын

Have you considered a virtual school like K12 or Connections Academy? There may be other options that are less stressful and chaotic.

Imagine how different kids’ behaviors would be if none of them had smartphones or internet access

@nopereradicator

Жыл бұрын

Imagine how different their behavior would be if their parents didn’t have smartphones or internet access?

@herbertharris7316

Жыл бұрын

It's not the internet access that's the problem, we need internet access to perform our duties as teachers, staff, and administrators and even for students' classroom work activities, however, one of the main issues is the cellphones (iPhones, Androids, any smartphone or personal tablet devices that create problems). These personal devices lead to major behavior problems and misconduct in schools. Even parents get in on the action by giving their children cellphones, so that they can call their children during school hours like these parents acting as though their children are their BEST FRIENDS. So with that note, parents (themselves) reinforce children's bad behavior and misconduct in school while supplying their own children with devices without teaching their children social responsibility regarding the use of cell phones while at school.

@nopereradicator

Жыл бұрын

@@herbertharris7316 Parent here. There’s so much to say. First of all, if the teachers need internet access it should be hardwired. Second, teachers used to be able to remove cell phones during class, this was before they started getting beat and maced of course. Third, this is why I required my kids to keep their phones with them at all times. At first I didn’t believe the environment was as toxic as they told me it was. Then they sent me videos during the day. OMG. The teachers have no control and no support so I told my kids to keep their phones on them so they could dial 911 if ever the horde turned on them. Finally, I think we agree. This is a parent issue but the parents were raised on Love & Hip Hop and Real Housewives of insert city here. The kids are mirroring the parents and the parents think everything is solved with violence.

@herbertharris7316

Жыл бұрын

@@Solace45 that's exactly the reason for internet access; not for extracurricular activities.

@nopereradicator

Жыл бұрын

@Solace I think you all are missing my point. You do know parents can disable service during school hours, right?

#Facts I agree with everything he said. When I see people going into teaching I tell them don't do it. I know they won't listen but I also know years later they will remember what I said.

all teachers in america should strike, all of them should quit nothing will happen if all the teachers just take the BS that is handed to them

@niaranyela

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. I'm a teacher and we have all similar sentiments about the abuse however when it's time to stand up everyone plays deaf dumb and blind. It's so frustrating. 2 more years and I'm done😑

@nvalles2565

5 ай бұрын

When I was a kid there was no higher fear than your parent get called. Now they challenge you to call their parents and they enjoy that their parent, or grandparent, may in fact climb through the phone to chew you a new a hole. The accountability is just as largely on the parents. Let parents discipline.

definitely resonating with this conversation. i'm planning to exit after next year and i think that the main reason why is precisely because the expectations are far too unattainable in comparison to the support we get. as well as the fact that consequences just do not matter to parents, children, even admin at times. i don't think of myself as that much far removed from this generation of kids either (i graduated in the mid 10's from high school!) and it just boggles my mind that education and social expectations has regressed this much in so little time. i'm generally an optimist when i'm at my best, but being a teacher has left me cynical about the future of society when i would rather not be.

This is so true. I've been cursed out by students, and the counselor and dean faults me instead of dealing with the behavior of student but when same student do same behavior in another class, student is held accountable.

@mario10zeus

Жыл бұрын

Admin seems to expect male teachers to be super teacher/ drill sergeants. Of course, at one point I was told I yelled too much.

I’ve yet to find a teacher (or principal) that enjoys what they do. They lie and pretend to my face as a parent like they do but their energy says otherwise.

@slateg1

Жыл бұрын

I actually enjoyed teaching for many years. My experiences about hating my work always hinged upon the administrators more than the students until 2010.

@pistoffpussycat5778

Жыл бұрын

@@Peter-uy3ti And Britain used to be the pinnacle of education: The German and Japanese education systems were based on the British model.

@nickev11

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I find many of the most bubbly happy teachers are not actually happy and serene people, that they are clinging onto this persona in denial of their daily experiences. I'm not saying you can't be stable and happy in difficult circumstances, but it does seem that a lot of teachers, specifically women, are gaslighting themselves as well into toxic positivity.

@maryl234

5 ай бұрын

and guess why???

I really, really, *really* liked this speaker-our experiences were almost 1:1…I also quit this year due to the experiences above. I’m giving international teaching a chance before I quit education for good

@kalicanterbury8085

Жыл бұрын

I went international for the same reason. I went to Thailand. It was awful! Now, the kids were kids. The parents at our private school were lovely, too. Admin was right out of nightmare-telling us that he could "hold us" at the school til he was satisfied with our work production bc we "weren't in the West anymore." Stealing my pay (monthly salary was divided by 30 days in a month and THEN I was paid for the days I worked which meant my monthly salary was NEVER my salary as we don't work every day of the month!) And Thais outside the school were racist and rude. Truly horrible humans. So, unsolicited advice: research research research! Have a way back home if there is a problem no matter when it arises (so, return tix and money to airport on the day you arrive). Don't pack alot - so you aren't weighed down if you have to get to safety. (HOWEVER, my DIL taught in Taiwan for 2 years and liked it.)

@newmamaful

Жыл бұрын

You might want to also consider an online school, like K12 or Connections Academy.

Normally, I applaud teachers for their service in the classroom. Now, I tend to encourage them to refuse to do the impossible and refuse to be used and disrespected 24/7. Take care of yourself and your family for a change. That probably means leaving the profession while you still have your sanity.

Thanks to both of you for doing this interview! I became a teacher in 2020 after being in the tech sector for over a decade, and this is my last year of teaching. It's amazing to me how there are any teachers left in this profession given (a) the incredible workload, (b) the lack of respect from students (not all but many students), and (c) the general disregard that society has for what we do. If we don't reform the system in significant and substantive ways, our entire society is headed for trouble.

@reneedennis2011

Жыл бұрын

Yup.

@maryl234

5 ай бұрын

Headed for? - We are there!

I really appreciate this man's openness and transparency. That is very courageous of him. Thank you.

@TeacherTherapy

Жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️

@nickev11

Жыл бұрын

Thanks - this was big for me also in terms of releasing some of my own trauma and healing. I'm glad it's been useful for others.

11:33 I was a para sub and one teacher I worked with was struggling with her class. Admin gave her a week away from her classroom to observe other teachers and how they do classroom management. As someone who has witnessed how the students treat the teacher, I don't believe it's her. She is kind and thoughtful and tries her hardest to get through the math lesson so she can carry on to independent work so she can converse with students. But the student behavior interruptions prolong the lesson. With it being the last class of the day, that could be a factor. Also, a good portion of the students were notorious for being a handful individually but combined, they fed off of each other. One student in particular does well with male teachers and is amazingly well behaved in gym class. I believe he is also frustrated that he is behind in math and doesn't understand it. I think he fears that his peers would view him as dumb if he asked for help. So in order to hide this, he refuses to do any work, distracts other students, and exclaims that it's all pointless.

I'm a substitute in the Central Valley of California. A few days ago, I substituted for one of the most misbehaved 4th grades I've ever had. I noticed a note on the teacher's desk, from one of the students to the teacher. The note said, "Dear Mrs. Smith [real name redacted, obviously]. I hope you have a better class next year. Sorry that we made you cry." Later that day, one of the students confirmed what happened: the students actually made the teacher cry in front of the class, because they were so misbehaved. I can see why the teacher cried. To be blunt, the boys in the class behaved as though they had no parents; they were completely impulsive, with no self-control. They did whatever they wanted and made little or no effort to do any of the work. On top of that, there were two students in the class who were basically special-ed; one of those students could not speak English or Spanish (although he understood both), but could only grunt, and was completely out of control. Meanwhile, the school provided very little classroom support. I had a counselor assist in the class for the first 15 minutes of class and the last 15 minutes of class, as well as a teacher's aide assist for 45 minutes in the morning. But that's it. Thing is, the class required a full-time assistance, especially with a substitute. The only way I was able to make it through that day was by becoming a drill sergeant. I don't want to be a drill sergeant, though. I want to be a teacher.

@CharlotteStockton

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing the rest of the world how it is for us in SJ Valley.

@thehighllama8101

Жыл бұрын

@@CharlotteStockton It really gets to me. Why are teachers being left alone in classrooms of 25 to 30 students that are oftentimes completely out of control? Why aren't principals, VPs, and learning directors making regular visits to troubled classrooms throughout the day? It's Lord of the Flies in many classrooms. It's harmful to both the teachers and the students, especially the students who want to learn. It's disturbing to think about what the situation in classrooms will be like in the coming 10 years.

@pistoffpussycat5778

Жыл бұрын

@@thehighllama8101 Bc they become admins to escape the classroom

@CharlotteStockton

Жыл бұрын

@@thehighllama8101 Because nobody wants to deal with the hard issues.

@FranBenjamin-lc9uk

Жыл бұрын

Oh no my dear. Please do not do that to yourself. Stay out of the classroom. PLEASE! If you feel like you must stay with Pre-k to 1st grade. Nothing higher. Also when I use to sub, the teacher left the note not to mess with her desk, closet, etc. I had been to the school before and was placed in her classroom even though I signed up for another assignment. I couldn't stop those monsters even if I tried. Besides I saw all the white subs sitting, reading books while the kids ripped, ran, etc the classroom. I wanted to do the same. And I do not have a strong voice to holler. Those kids destroyed the classroom. She went off saying why would I let them do that to her classroom. She confronted me the next time I was at the school. I didn't care, as I did not come there to holler all day because that's what she did. I guess the kids finally got a chance to feel free in her class. Lol. This is in the abbott elementary district. Which is too true based off the yt clips I have seen, The satire is too real of how the district really is. They need to do an asbestos episode. They need to do a headquarter episode of how all the clear colonizers sit at hq holding those positions and disconnected from the population that looks like the majority of the city, The clear teachers come to the city to teach for higher pay but don't really care about our kids. They sign up so many for special education evaluation to reduce their class size

As a retired paraprofessional, I was given absolutely NO training for students with severe behavior problems, e.g., what is autism? What are the mental health issues that I may have to deal with? How do I deescalate a violent incident? How do I manage behavior? For Health paraprofessionals, what do I do with a diabetic child? Seizures? Life threatening allergies? The nurses gave me a 5 minute run down and said, "Just keep the student alive by the end of the day." What the hell!?

21:41 I feel for Kevin. I also was crying to and from student teaching, belting out some MCR as well on the drive. This was when I also struggled with alcohol use. I was so stressed from my mentor teacher's abuse, I had nightmares of work and had poor quality sleep if any. I even fell asleep at my desk at home often. I drank so I could get some semblance of sleep. When the student teaching came to an end, the stress of the abuse was gone and so was my vice. I'm glad to not be there mentally anymore.

Housewives influence us to respond to conflict in a hyper, loud negative way. Social media has the same negative impact on the students.

@georgekobty

2 ай бұрын

This is the hugest point ever

RIght. I'm on meds for the 1st time at 40. Leaving after a stint of 3 years. I only have been at 4 schools in the Us and 1 in Korea. The ones in the US are all the same. Doesn't matter if Title 1 or not.

@nickev11

Жыл бұрын

I'm now on 3 separate mental health drugs and another for an autoimmune disease I developed while teaching. I'm 33. This destroyed my health.

As a teacher of nearly 20 years, I have had a lot of the same experiences as Kevin and Trish. Society (especially people in power) needs to shift its mindset, and parents and kids need to learn how to behave properly or face actual consequences.

So, what is the answer, dear former teacher? Why isn't our government doing anything? Does anyone hear a word from the Secretary of Education? I don't even remember that person's name. I retired from an urban public district in Jan. 2020, right before Covid. I can sub, only because I don't have the multitude of responsibilities, etc. I can actually teach, and I feel sorry for my colleagues who deal with this terrible state of education every, single day. What is going to help? The entire system is going to collapse in on itself.....This teacher has been spit on, slapped, etc, and is still in the classroom????!!!!.....PBIS gives well-behaved children rewards. But, their school day is filled with the poor behavior of kids who disrupt the education they deserve. There is hardly anything that effectively addresses poor behavior.

@nickev11

Жыл бұрын

I really don't know. I used to feel there was hope for improving, unfortunately it seems now to me that we're going to have to watch it crash and burn for a while longer before anything changes. I honestly think it has to fail totally and completely in order to be revamped, but I cannot sit around and wait for that as it gets worse every year. THe top things I think would help are 1. actual discipline, 2. actual academic rigor, 3. actual parenting, 4. appropriate staffing to respond to student need. I'm skeptical the cultural will power exists for these things to happen anytime soon.

@maryl234

5 ай бұрын

Going to collapse? It already has.

Perhaps, this amnesia is deliberate, especially administrators. It seems the who becomadeministratirs are narcissistic people. They have a plan to earn money in education and setup the easiest way for them to get money and status. They are not leaders and they are not educators. Some parents need therapy. We need a law or policy in education where misbehaving children's parents must go to therapy. Some parents are afraid of parenting. They have fear of losing their children's love or they need assertiveness training. They do not understand their responsibility as a parent. Children and parents cannot be friends. The parent status is above the child. There is a commandment: Honor thy father and thy mother. What does that mean? It means the parent is responsible to guide and emotionally, physically and financially provide for their children and for that sacrifice time, effort and safety, from birth to 23(in modern times), the parent is due respect and obedience.

I am a highly empathetic person and this is exactly why I quit teaching nearly two years ago. The reality of teaching, that my program (I actually received my masters In education, in addition to my certification), prepared me for was not at all like my experience. In total I taught school for three years. The worst part was not the students but the parents and administration. The straw that broke the camel's back, for me, was when one of the awful parents (the parents in charter schools are uniformly awful) literally challenged me to an after school fight. I knew it was a wrap for me when I accepted the challenge and waited for him in the parking lot (thankfully he never showed up). Why? Well, I gave his daughter an incomplete (because we literally are not allowed to assign an F or zero ) because she came to class a total or 6 days in an ENTIRE school year. So he wanted to fight me because of that. Between the administration, the horrible parents, and the continued stress of having to manage an insurmountable workload I resigned at the end of 2022. I am happy in my new career as a corporate trainer. And "gaslighting" is the perfect terminology to use! Everything that happens is ALWAYS your fault! You don't get credit when everything is going well, but the moment something occurs, that is out-of your control, you are still blamed for it.

Love your channel - thanks for all your work, commitment and your guests’ commitment to telling the truth! I’m a teacher on my way out of the profession! Thanks your videos have helped me

I really don’t know how teachers do it honestly. I’m too sensitive and I know for sure I wouldn’t survive being a teacher. I really do take things to heart and I can never let it go but I am trying to work on that

@reneedennis2011

Жыл бұрын

Same here.

Agree! Too true! The Business Model treats the learners like Data Points instead of living, loving, caring humans. Student Centered Teachers are driven out of their calling!

I can't tell you how many students over three decades that I had run-ins with, but didn't hold it against them and moved on and we ended up being great together.

Everything the guest said is spot on. There is such an incredible level of dysfunction and delusion in K-12 education. It's an impossible environment. I got teacher of the year four times, two times in the last two years I taught. I was still ignored, dismissed, gaslit, and disenfranchised by all stakeholders when I begged for more support for students or professionally pointed out ways our environment/methods could be improved for the students. I had a breakdown this last winter, as my health tanked from work stress and LCOVID. I have finally accepted the system is collapsing and I have to get out for my own survival. Most people are in total denial or use the system for their own gain. I hate it for the kids but I'm not willing to destroy myself over it anymore. Those of us, like Brian, who deeply care about all of this are exploited and sometimes even despised.

I’ve seen students who want to learn sit and hunker down in defeat as soon as disruptive student takes control of the classroom. You have empathic students like this who suffer because the teacher is also empathic allowing these disruptive students to verbally bully or interrupt the lesson constantly thinking that giving them any natural consequence is sone how going to damage them. This perpetual cycle inevitably crescendos to violence.

I love these interviews. 💯💯💯 facts

I remember attempting to inspire teachers to join the Teacher’s Union and stand up for their rights. They refused. Most are codependent gluttons for punishment.

@SarahG266

5 ай бұрын

Oh really?

In the city I live in if the school district gets a budget increase, administrators give themselves a raise to consume the funding.

@reneedennis2011

Жыл бұрын

😡

I once had to call a parent for continued discipline problems. The parent told me, "well you the teacher, you handle it!" And hung up in my face. That's what I dealt with.

unfortunately there's always been out of control kids though its increased in recent years with more widespread use of technology and kids having cell phones at ever younger ages

@maryl234

5 ай бұрын

and lack of parenting from Millennials - who view constructive criticism as an attack.

@courtneypuzzo2502

5 ай бұрын

@@maryl234 that's true to a point but there's always been hands off or irresponsible parents I'm an early Cohort Millennial myself born 3/5/1985 though due to my own disabilities and medical conditions I don't have children

Staff meetings/PD, aka struggle session.

There are days where the students are extra tired, anxious, rowdy and it depletes me. Happened today. Everyone’s odd energy is a disaster for me.

I had considered teaching at one time, but was encouraged not to based on my size of 5’2 105 pound frame for safety and my empathic nature. This was in the late 90s. I chose a medical field with minimal patient contact. It’s perfect for me. I tell the teacher at the beginning of the year I know my kids aren’t perfect and want to know if they’re misbehaving. I’m so sorry you’ve experienced such a horrible time. They’re losing the best teachers.

A never understood why anything that could get you charged with a crime outside school is tolerated inside achool. Students are forced to go to school so it is admins duty to make it a safe space. The perpetrator needs to be dealt with for the saftey of all the other students and staff. Their choices and actions should have consequences.

(commenting on the out-of-control behavior of the students and not receiving any help) Thank you!!! Don't give me more work to do when I'm asking for help. I have to do my lesson plan, gather materials, instruct other students, complete observations, clean my classroom, complete my parent conferences, go to your stupid professional developments, trainings, CPR -first aid certifications, and conduct assessments etc. . . . I'm tired!!

It is sounding like the therapists and counselors have all read, absorbed, totally believe in LOVE AND LOGIC, our middle child was undiagnosed Autism and we tried using the LOVE AND LOGIC techniques which are not useful with an emotionally combative child. Our children have also been quite vocal in regards to the fear around being shot and killed in their classrooms. No one can learn in the classroom if disruptions are daily and there are no consequences for bad behavior. This acceptance will only feed the FOR PROFIT PRISON SYSTEM. The society will definitely descend into hellish streets and empty public spaces with this continuing lack of personal accountability in the children and the parents as well as the School Boards for being so unwilling to provide boundaries for everyone's safety.

@reneedennis2011

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

We're given a narrative and it doesn't comport with reality. Times are changing.

Teaching is awful. The system should change or crumble

@PrimordialChaos07

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully the borders will be closed and a lot of non Americans can go home under Trump

@Apricot90

4 ай бұрын

What do you do for a living? I need to get out of teaching...

Hi Trish, Enjoyed your content as usual! Its real and well presented! Your guest, Kevin, is a close to ideal source person to discuss this invaluable concept. I too, have long realized, that empathic quality in myself, which is to 'absorb emotional energy', which can sometimes make work life very difficult. Kevin seems to realize what is happening in the greater school environment, and what is happening (happened) to him. I will learn from him. Most if not all schools have emotional aspect, being places of regular human activity. However, in the schools which really lack resources etc, the spectrum of emotional can be from placid to the other extreme. It makes me think of the 'Beaufort scale', where 'moderate breeze' can lead to waves of 6ft (not bad for ocean going vessels), and at the high end, scale 12 (hurricane force) there is no detectable wave height etc, but conditions are literally chaos. (Actually the waves are over 46 ft, but how can anything really be measured.). Look up the Beaufort scale! I learned about it in my graduate oceanography class. The problem is multi-faceted, revealing itself like layers of an onion. Take a step back... add a lot more social workers for students. Take another step back ... add free therapy and support for the parents of those students. One documentary I saw said, take care of the mother's mental health, and you take care of their kids too! Take a third step back... get better jobs for working parents so they have more time to actually parent (and read to their kids) Take a fourth step back.... produce better jobs by... stop offshoring good paying jobs, and give them to underpaid, overworked parents. This also answers a student's inevitable question 'why learn'.... because well paid jobs are waiting for you down the line... (but if society does not wish to preserve those, then yes, why learn will have a different answer). Take a fifth step back.... everyone gets my point by now I think of a lot of what we see are reflections of our greater society, and just magnified in the school setting. Carl Sagan, when interviewed by Ted Turner (I think), was asked what would he change. Sagan replied 'everything'.

@herbertharris7316

Жыл бұрын

Great points but like most of your points, these are the underlying issues that lies outside the control and scope of the educational system. It will be great if our local, state and Federal officials start working for the people and not for SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS that seek to dismantle the social fabric of our society.

The gaslighting, the lack of discipline, the dismal academic performance, the corrupt administrators, the scapegoating of teachers, and the refusal to accept responsibility on the part of the students, administrators, and parents are all indicative of the third world. I teach overseas and the schools in the third world where I teach are not half as bad as American schools.

@Apricot90

4 ай бұрын

It's the same here in Germany. 2 years in and I developed Ulcerative Colitis. This job unalives you.

I left and pulled my kids out too. One homeschooled and one is in private education. They are both happier. And so is mom ❤ I’m teaching online now part time.

I never realized how some of these mistakes could hinder a teacher's job search outside of education. Your video has opened my eyes, and I'll definitely keep these points in mind as I explore new career opportunities. Thank you for sharing your expertise!

Wow this coulda been my interview to a tee. Well said

I was a career changer to teacher at 40 yrs old. I subbed and then worked over 9 years in teaching. I spent my nights and weekends creating lesson plans only to have the handouts crumpled and thrown on the floor. 😢 I no longer teach….did not get the big pension or 401 k. No health insurance. Struggling now with cost of living though I’ve always lived frugal…college, raised kids….lived below my means….no debt, no fancy vacations or new cars. Took care of elderly parent, sold my home after I left teaching in 2017. My 60s, 70s and if I live beyond are not what I thought it could be. Working now in retail / min wage.

The only way I would ever set foot in a classroom again is if I was wearing a Go Pro so it recorded every single thing that happened around me all day every day. If there were cameras in every classroom, the parents might see just how their precious, perfect, little children behave.

I love teaching in and of itself, but I hate classroom management. I discovered my passion for teaching a few years ago. I was inspired by another friend of mine who is also a teacher. I had never felt more called to go into a field. However, my teaching degree could not have prepared me for the behavioral issues in the classroom. I really had no awareness of what public schools were really like as I only went to a private school growing up. Yes kids acted up but nothing like what im witnessing in classrooms today. Im in my first year and honestly ive already thought about quitting. Its sad to say coming from someone who started out with so much passion but teaching degrees dont warn you about the behavior before you become a teacher. A lot of time is spent correcting behavior. Im hoping to at least make it to the end of the year though i know its going to be very hard. I still love teaching, so i hope to find a job in a less stressful enviroment, and if not, may change careers completely that still has student involvement.

@SarahG266

5 ай бұрын

University classes do not prepare you for the reality of classroom management! It’s all idealistic dribble. I learned that when I subbed, and now I’m like, nope! No credential program for me. There’s a lot of other jobs out there.

I would like you to do a segment speaking to the parents and not the teachers entitled. Top ten things parents should not do to their child’s elementary school teachers. First do a survey of you teacher subscribers in a separate segment through the comments then put a segment dedicated directly to the parents of elementary school parents. Thanks

Cameras are everywhere else in society - we need them in the classroom at this point.

at the point of 10:15 - unattainable goals to reach with students. I wholeheartedly agree. At one school I worked at, I had a student in year 10 that attendance rate was only 19% the previous school year and yet I was expected to close the gap and support this student to pass. Impossible. Emailed parents and mum said we accept failing English. The bottom class we had at school was called Accelerated English and the same idea, how to close the gap with these students, some with several years of school at very low attendance rates. All that class did was slow everything down and simplify it further. For example, my discussions with a student from that class is, 'what does a beach smell like, look like, feel like etc.' And my other students are talking about plot twists and transforming Romeo and Juliet into a modern context and characters. Impossible. In Primary school, the current state policy is about inclusion, meaning students cannot repeat or access specialized supports as needed. For example, ESL kids, those who are on the spectrum, etc. As a result, I had several year seven students in my English class that were working at an academic level of a grade three or four. It was just impossible. Most teachers have tried various things, having a support teacher work with them etc but we're not qualified to work and deal with or even diagnose these specialized needs. Teachers don't get paid for their professional knowledge anyway, little lone being highly specialized in these fields as well as general classroom teaching.

Sorry another comment lol Have you looked at the high rates of breast cancer in female teachers? High levels of divorce in female teachers? My son's new English teachers is have breast cancer treatment and will be marking his papers in the hospital. When will these women stop and take a stand for their health? That's why I want to leave, I have to , the stress is killing me and I must stand up for myself and do something else. I too don't want to go down on the burning ship.

@TragicallyINFJ

Жыл бұрын

Maybe related: women who don’t have kids have higher rates of breast cancer..They first noticed it in nuns..

@reneedennis2011

Жыл бұрын

Wow! Thanks for the info!

Great interview. Just more confirmation to the gaslighting I am going through with administration and the students. Yes and the admin think I need to take more classes on classroom management when none of the substitutes or teachers want my classes. Like hello wake up!!!!

This helped me a lot! I am on the cusp of deciding to pursue a substitute teaching license in the eventual hopes of becoming an Art Teacher. My mother has been a teacher for a long time both public and private, but she’s a lot more emotionally resilient than I am. I worry sometimes that the heaviness of what the students are going through may effect me as an empath, ESPECIALLY in an emotional subject like Art. This was very eye opening and a lot to consider!

@AlexasArtRoom

11 ай бұрын

I’m literally in the same position as you, except I already substitute teach. I’m at artist and I would love to be an art teacher. I’m not going to pursue it though because of videos like this shedding light on the reality of teaching and based on my personal experience with subbing. The main school that I sub at is a really good school so it’s the only school I will sub at now. There’s an art academy that I subbed at once thinking it would be a great experience, it was not! I later learned it’s the worst school in the district. It was like working at a prison. One student stole my pen off my desk, she told me to shut up, the classes wouldn’t be quiet even for me to call roll. It was horrible!! Most of the teachers at that school are not returning next school year! The schools you choose to sub at could be hit or miss, but I would say go for it. The main school I sub at has good disciplinary staff. As a sub I have very little responsibilities compared to a full time teacher. Most days it’s fun and easy, the kids like me a lot. I’m very empathetic and I got lucky having a really good school near me. It’s a small school too, which I believe makes a difference. Also the school is a middle + high school. I refuse to sub for elementary schools because I don’t want to be around that many kids. I can actually have conversations with middle and high schoolers. Good luck!

Another excellent interview and discussion. Your channel helped me get through this school year, and now I am officially wrapping up my last year of teaching! I'm switching careers (after 8 years of teaching) to work in the career center at the university I graduated from. Colleges and universities are an excellent place for teachers to find jobs; the transferrable skills are endless!! Thanks for your awesome videos that expose and validate teacher experiences ❤❤❤

@TeacherTherapy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, and congratulations on your upcoming career move!! ❤️ 🥳 🎉✨️🤗

@choicelyon2131

Жыл бұрын

@@TeacherTherapy Thanks!! I'm so excited to have a lunch break and free evenings/weekends again 😅

at 23:16 - I had a very similar experience, very open and upfront about what's going on and NOTHING. No help nothing. Just crickets. But I was making friends with a very extroverted teacher and she got so pissed at me that she started sending messaged that were accusing me of cheating the system and not coming to work. I had a legitimate sick note and a mental health plan being written up by the doctor. I see the psychologist in two weeks and I'm paying for all of this. So because of that all of those so called friends at work turned on me and I no longer talk to them. I've made other friends now and working in another school but as a supply teacher and all pressure is off. I'm looking forward to retraining and moving out of teaching and I'll never look back. Only thing is, my son still goes to that school.

I love these interveiws, I think it gives us a great insight into American soceity as a whole. I hope in the distant future, people look back on these interveiws to understand what life and education was like in our time.

I left teaching 11 years ago. There is so much crap that teachers and other school employees deal with. The depression, anxiety, mental health crisis and trauma are very real. I can't imagine what it's like now after Covid and this current generation.

I'm glad he brought up race. A white teacher could have a classroom of 30 Black students, and if she applies a consequence to one student due to misbehavior, it wouldn't be uncommon for the student to feel justified in attributing the consequence to the teacher's "racism."

Yep - I’m worried about the direction education is going as well.

As a precious school counselor, I truly relate to a Kevin. I felt like I was very empathetic and people pleasing but my work overwhelmed me to where I just wanted to give up on everyone/everything. My mental health was going down hill, anxiety increased, if I didn’t do anything about it I would affect my relationship with others, and my intrusive thoughts scared me. I wasn’t properly supported. I still feel traumatized from the experience and view on the school system completely changed in a negative light.

I had never seen more brawls until I became an elementary teacher … and the brawls were between teachers ! There was even a fist fight between the school nurse and the principal . They pulled each others hair and my the end of the brawl , there was hair on the floor . The worse part is they did this in front of elementary kids that were sent to the office for fighting on the playground

@Apricot90

4 ай бұрын

Wtf... Here in Germany two male co-workers got into a fight and one hit the other one's head with a coffee pot. But not infront of the students. Still, it is really a primitive and pathetic behaviour. No wonder tho, with all the stress and pressure.

@Teacher Therapy It appears that the people who want to spend the LEAST amount of time with children, are the very ones who don't want anyone to discipline them in any way. They're fine with the kids doing whatever they please as long as they're with someone else.

Yay! Thanks for doing another great interview Trish! There are so many great issues here and this guy brings such a good background to the table. Quitting midyear can be especially tough!

Many empaths are drawn to teaching because we have been hurt and want to help others so they don’t hurt like we did/do. Many empaths love children because we relate to them and want to advocate for and protect them because they are precious and deserve that protection. We have to get healing for ourselves so that we stop having a Savior Complex, though, right? We have to learn boundaries and to stick up for ourselves, realize only God can save other people. We can go to work, give it our best, then come home and detach from it.

I feel like school are starting to be run more like corporations more about profit and quantity and pass rather than quality and help kids with what they actually need. it's sad because I feel like when attempting to help kids it swung the other way of without addressing the root causes either get them out or just pass them or coddle them or just make them feel stupid and no middle ground.

29:00 oh it's not even presentation like in a normal job. It's a training course with activities and choreography, and risk assessment too! All with "colleagues who don't want to be there and won't cooperate. If it was presentation alone that would be bad. But it's about 10x worse.

Soooo true to the point of ridiculous - people that are not in the classroom have no idea incl admin and parents. So true we are not treated with integrity! I partially see this as what students see in the politics of our country - lying adults. Hopefully our recent work on keeping politicians accountable will help. What do you think?

Wow. Every. Single. Thing. Spoken in this interview is 100% accurate and true.