Remember that scene in Apollo 13 where the old lady says "...if they could get a washing machine to fly, my Jimmy could land it." I think Peter is the guy who could get a washing machine to fly.

@rocketboysmc

Жыл бұрын

Now Peter must make a plane with a washing machine motor!

@TravisFabel

Жыл бұрын

There's your answer. He needs to build it like the lunar lander. Stop trying to make it look like a helicopter and make four large panel legs with the propeller on top. You'll have no directional control but it won't try to tilt Because every time it does the downwash would straighten it back out

@Menaceblue3

Жыл бұрын

Only if you can the air filter tubes shaped like this ⭕ into the air scrubber intake shaped like this 🔲 using only these items 🖋📎✂️📏🩹🩲🔨

@FilosophicalPharmer

Жыл бұрын

@@rocketboysmc Was gonna suggest a backpack-mounted, Dremel-tool-powered, single-occupancy Santa's helicopter sled in preparation for XMas, 2023 but I like your idea lots better! lol!

@bmdoes_stuff6861

Жыл бұрын

fairchild republic already did that

Steve's pre-flight is to whisper "good luck" to the Dremel

@JacobHGamez

Жыл бұрын

lol

@jasonlin9805

Жыл бұрын

Lo L

@jlucasound

Жыл бұрын

The reply is, "Bzzzt! I'm Not Doing This! I belong on a Bench! Didn't you read my Manual?" "1: Do not expose to excess moisture. 2: Do not allow high impact to casing. 3: Do not make a helicopter out of your Dremel." It's all right there. 😉

@jimnjele.bean-dayone3505

Жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhha

@jimnjele.bean-dayone3505

Жыл бұрын

Hhahhahahhaha

I can't help but think that an enclosed fuselage/gear box would have reduced the crazy amount of vibration that thing had since the very get go

@WeAreThePeef

Жыл бұрын

Yeah i thought the vibrations in the gears was gonna be the first thing addressed

@littlesnowflakepunk855

Жыл бұрын

all they needed to do was add a rigid bar and another two bearings above the gears. Would have prevented the flex and therefore reduced the gear slippage

@azraeiazman

Жыл бұрын

@@littlesnowflakepunk855 THIS. I’ve thought about this the whole video. The freaking gears.

@paulybeefs8588

Жыл бұрын

I don't know what was driving me more nuts, the vibration gearing, or the fact that he had the tail rotor propelling directly into his vertical fin. Then he upgraded the power of the tail rotor because it wasn't strong enough. But hey, he kept at it.

@goodboiadvsp3297

Жыл бұрын

@@paulybeefs8588 Holy crap, I didnt even notice that until you pointed it out

I'm always astonished by the amount of patience you have, when things fall apart.

Peter ever since your bro started working with you every video is just a gigglefest between the two of you. It's wholesome as fuck and I'm happy for you guys.

@nonesuchone

Жыл бұрын

Here for it

@MarkoVukovic0

Жыл бұрын

Love it, looks like just too much fun!

@2degucitas

Жыл бұрын

The Sripol-ness is magnified. Nobody knows you, thinks like you and giggles like you than a sibling.

@acmelka

Жыл бұрын

I bet behind the scenes they are fighting like brothers

@2degucitas

Жыл бұрын

@@acmelka yep

The amount of times this was rebuilt is impressive

@mrfashionguy1

Жыл бұрын

Iterative design babyyy

@TheStuartstardust

Жыл бұрын

@@mrfashionguy1 No, interactive design 🙃😄

@pabloata4708

Жыл бұрын

failing the design 300 times is not a merit either..

@azrael_angel_of_death

Жыл бұрын

yeah they're going for a helicopter and the blades are at full speed

@ChaoticEko

Жыл бұрын

Dremel of Theseus

Seems like a flying mower is a must and I feel it needs to still mow to be a total success.

Can't believe the determination and positivity you guys have. I probably would've quit a long time before you even finished. Another great vid as always!

that gyro controlled stabilizer might have actually been a good investment lol

@raptorheli2

Жыл бұрын

What is it going to control? There is no swash nor servos for stability for it to control. Don't need a flybar if using gyros on controls, that's what flybar does. The tail obviously needs better setup.

@atomicskull6405

Жыл бұрын

Or just use a multirotor FC and load it with Rotorflight (helicopter specific fork of Betaflight)

@raptorheli2

Жыл бұрын

@@atomicskull6405 and what will it do? There is no swash to control

@motosk8er2

Жыл бұрын

@@raptorheli2 The tail rotor genius. Do you really need it spelled out?

@raptorheli2

Жыл бұрын

@@motosk8er2 if you think a gyro on the tail will fix this then perhaps I am the genius of this duo.....no need to be rude.

Massively impressed that you kept rebuilding it and not giving up.

@2degucitas

Жыл бұрын

Cue 6 Million Dollar Man theme

@jadinzack9271

4 ай бұрын

Never ever give up

This is absolutely insane bro, some of your best work ever! Never would have thought making a dremel fly would be this challenging

Peter, love these crazy inventions! Not sure if you already know but I'd figure to mention that generally in flight testing, we usually do a "tether hover" during R&D to verify flight characteristics and stability so we don't destroy so many parts :) Makes for good video though!

I’m no expert, but I feel like improving the gear box would help both power and stability.

@DeanF

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it starts the initial imbalance.

Serious Question, Peter - did you consider a planetary-gear for main rotor? Seems like it would have two advantages: less flex and weight of tool directly under rotor. Very curious... Thanks!!

@excelsior8682

Жыл бұрын

Possible torque loss but that could work

@fss1704

Жыл бұрын

That would be way better, for sure.

@davidmerander576

Жыл бұрын

That and gyro control would be a winning combo.

@bradenmolloy7443

Жыл бұрын

They can create heat when not lubricated simple is better for dry gears

@ReverendTed

Жыл бұрын

Isn't it best to have some weight out in front of the rotor shaft in order to counterbalance the weight of the boom and tail? (Just spitballing here.)

This video made me realize that helicopters are just constantly fighting physics to try not to destroy themselves 😯

Out of the mini years that I’ve watched you I’ve never seen you fail I’m just so pleased to see that you weren’t sitting in this one but you did succeed proud of you as always I’m just a 70 year old man that started Darcy when they were single channel escapement

I'm going to hold my breath until you build an ornithopter out of an electric toothbrush. Go!

@thecrazyinsanity

Жыл бұрын

R.I.P Scott Dunbar

@MikeyDL69

Жыл бұрын

It’s been 3 weeks. You good man?

This video demonstrates how hard it is to make or something new. How much patience you need. Count the no. of failures and then succeed Hat's off to you guys Love your videos.

Very cool to see a [cordless rotary tool] fly! The final iterations actually sounded like a real full size copter once you got it stable

The sheer effort of this project deserves 10 million views. That was some serious dedication!

I think adding another bearing and supporting both sides of the gear would have helped. I think I heard a lot of time where the teeth would separate and the gears would skip.

@fss1704

Жыл бұрын

A planetary gear is slmost infinitely better, especially when you have a 3d printer.

@pauljs75

Жыл бұрын

So much lost power for the main rotor due to poor driveline engagement. Wasn't the motor's fault. Peter may have given it 110% given all constraints, but 10% more would have had this thing as a complete success.

@bmxscape

Жыл бұрын

true that i was thinking it was amazing it sustained flight with basically a slipping clutch

dual bearing on the input and output shaft for the main rotor, the extra rigidity on those stops gear mesh issues / reduces vibration etc , also make a guard for the spur gear, ask me how i know :) loved this project so so much, brilliant stuff chaps as always

@rc-fannl7364

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I respect the creativity and perseverence, but expecting something with so much vibrations to fly, is like asking for a miracle.

@griptopia

Жыл бұрын

@@rc-fannl7364 This is how smart peter is he knows where he can cut corners but, having done similar stuff getting the spinning assembly parts balanced, just makes everything so much easier, rear rotor authority kicks in earlier as well once the vibration is under control.

@tomclanys

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I was so surprised that they didn't support the shaft with a second bearing above. It was the main reason for all the vibration and skips

@stich1960

Жыл бұрын

He's fighting weight this whole build too though bearings are heavy

@cessman8054

Жыл бұрын

I came here to make this same comment, but I’m five months too late sooo .. cheers! 🤣

Why didn't you try a brace between the drive shaft from the Dremel and the shaft the blades connect to to keep the gears from slipping? Lot more energy in a battery than the rubber bands.

Think about a pneumatic torque wrench powering a go-cart. The fun would be the air compressor needed to keep the torque wrench moving. If you wanted to scale up, there are torque wrenches in 1-1/2" and 2-1/2", if 1" is too small. Problem is scaling down as the CFM doesn't change that much.

@littlesnowflakepunk855

Жыл бұрын

Pressurized air on an experimental go-kart seems like a questionable idea

I died when the propeller came loose and flew up! 🤣

for some reason, it really is funny every time that prop flies away without the dremel... lol

I would like to see this Dremel revisited as a Gyrocopter and the Dremel being used as the forward propulsion. Then you will have a dihedral to keep it balanced plus rudder authority via the tail planes and still retain a rotor and blades as your lift. Looked fun!

Man, it's crazy to see how many times it crashes and you guys just say "oh no!" And laugh with big smiles. I would get disappointed on the first crash, sit down for like an hour looking at it, then give up lol. Amazing patience and amazing skills!

The KZreadr, "Night Flyer" was part of the development team that made the Kyosho tail rotorless RC helicopters sold by Tower Hobbies in the late 1980's early 1990's. I believe if you contact him and get some of his data, you might be more successful without a tail rotor, and only throttle for up-down and regular rudder for directional control.

@JustinKoenigSilica

Жыл бұрын

He used a big paper plate as a replacement for a tail rotor, works great! You just get no rudder control lol. But you can still Change heading.

@PilotChris06FW

Жыл бұрын

The helicopter must always be in forward flight for this to work.

@RolfRBakke

Жыл бұрын

The Kyosho HyperFly! My friend had one. It had a no throttle, just a switch on the helicopter that got turned off when the helicopter touched the ground.

@PilotChris06FW

Жыл бұрын

@@RolfRBakke Yes I mistakenly got a Hyperfly as my first RC aircraft.....biggest waste of money and a ton of frustration. It was like throwing a bowling ball and expecting it to fly.

@RolfRBakke

Жыл бұрын

@@PilotChris06FW Our first flight went straight into the ground as well. We learned that we have to let it climb straight ahead, and turn right. Left turns made it dive. So it kind of worked. Not for the beginner tough...

Absolutely love what 3D printing has become. Love my ender3 pro

I love Sam but I truly love the family dynamics here! So “pure” … pure childish laughter!

Your editing and production have come a long way friend. Do t see many of your videos, but when I do, they always seem bounds above the former. Congratulations man!

I don't know if there's a free plug-in to make them, but helical gears would give you much less noise. Involute gears are good for low speed high torque applications. Things I've learned from This Old Tony.

@2testtest2

Жыл бұрын

There are free plugins for fusion for helical gears. I'm not sure they would be a good fit for this application though, as they also create a side load, which would case the frame and gears to flex depending on how much torque is applied, possibly causing them to disengage in flight. By involute gears I'm assuming you mean straight cut gears? Involute gears can be straight or helical, and is the most common type in machinery today, and are suitable for all speed ranges.

@mark675

Жыл бұрын

Think that's the least of their problems 😂

@JurassicLemon

Жыл бұрын

SHOUT-OUT TOT

@laz272727

Жыл бұрын

@@2testtest2 That's why double helical gears exist.

@wilsonrawlin8547

Жыл бұрын

@@JurassicLemon 2x! Guy is a genius machinist. Love his channel.

Peter: MAKING AN INDUSTRIAL TABLE SAW FLY!

@raulhatescheese

Жыл бұрын

yes!

@Flumphinator

Жыл бұрын

ODS did the table saw go kart.

@calebfreeze7956

Жыл бұрын

@@Flumphinator no way

@calebfreeze7956

Жыл бұрын

@@Flumphinator that's awesome

I love when you make these crazy videos. I hope that your next video will be even crazier.

I love how at every step of the way this helicopter gets closer and closer to just being a bunch of soon-to-be shrapnel stuck together with hopes and dreams and strapped onto a grinder with no kill switch except the one located conveniently in reach of the high speed rotor blades

I think you were fixing and iterating far more than flying. In the end it flew! sorta. That was cool!

My suggestion is still to make a food plane again. You could use the sugar paste you had and rice paper and have a really good plane.

the amount of patience this dude has is incredible! Bravo!

I'm impressed how much patience you had to keep re-building this when it crashed and broke! I would have set it on fire after about the 3rd or 4th failure!

Ah... the name. It's a FIAS helicopter.

@EctoMorpheus

Жыл бұрын

@Don't Read My Profile Photo what year is this, 2008?

Wonder if mounting the motor horizontally and using a bevel gear would have changed the gyroscopic forces enough to give it more stability?

@prawnmikus

Жыл бұрын

With the rotor, motor and gears all spinning on the same axis the gyroscopic forces were pretty huge. If the motor is mounted horizontally, then there would be gyroscopic forces on 3 axis. There also wouldn't be such a huge lever-arm hanging under the rotor, so the controls would be more responsive. Or maybe I'm missing something simple.

@jesperhagstrom

Жыл бұрын

Then it wouldn't be a straight grinder anymore 😂

Proud to be part of the Scripol People!! Your videos never disappoint 🎉

every helicopter has the same goal from the day it's built. Rapid and violent deconstruction. This was hysterical to watch.

I am so glad that you seem to like sharing the torture you go thru to make these projects! It makes for a hell of a good laugh! Thanks for another great video, Happy New Year!!

I made my own set of piccolo blades back in the early 2000s. I later made some collective pitch blades with symmetrical profile and just put a tapered shim under them to give a fixed "collective" like pitch and they flew extremely well. I dared not try them before static/dynamic balance which doesn't take long.

@2degucitas

Жыл бұрын

How do we get the Sripol guys to see this???

Your persistence is impressive…

I absolutely love and respect what you do. I had such a great set of laughs at this, thank you. Peter can just spit on anything and it flys 😂

All OSHA safety standards were followed in the making of this video...lol

I would like to see an ongoing contest to see how fast you can get a propeller vehicle off the ground and up to a certain altitude, say 100 meters. Trying different vehicles you make to see which one can do it the fastest.

There was never a doubt you were going to make it fly. Congrats👍

By the middle of the video I was fully resigned to assuming it would never fly. This would have been fine, because the laughs and goofy enjoyment was definately contagious... great video.

It's terrifying, if nothing else. The Dremel of Doom.

If you trim it for forward flight the power and tail rotor effectiveness will not be an issue with the translational lift.. and it will be more stable.. don't try to hover

phrase of the day: GYROSCOPIC PROCESSION you need to have a mechanical bias to the flybar that offsets it toward the direction of gravity or else the effects of gyroscopic procession will continue to crash it, thats why it slowly tilts more and more until it crashes every time. i would recommend having the flybar angled down away from the blade to give it leverage and make the tips atleast a quarter the weight of the blades to make it want to self level.

absolute insanity.. What a horrifically dangerously unpredictable and finicky machine.. I love it!

Really makes me appreciate my Mavic 3.

Some things I noticed - a shorter screw in the gears could help remove the centrifugal imbalance which is impeding the gyroscopic stabilization you should be getting from the rotor mast, also adding a guide flange to both sides of your small 3D printed gear will help it maintain the interface with the larger gear and not allow it to have so much play in it. Beyond that - y'all are not only insanely clever, but also extremely good at making entertaining videos.

Rinse Repeat is such a banger

How about a MK II version of this with a coax rotor system as this would eliminate the need for a tail rotor and use the Dremel's power to do flight?

I'm completely ignorant, but my instinct would be to try to get the dremel COG under the rotor axis using non-parallel pinion/gear axes.

Your tenacity is impressive.

If you try this again I would add a more aerodynamic fuselage witch might reduce the interference from the gears and make it more stable and the damage upon landing

Great vid peter, very funny and amazing patience 😁

First time beeing here i am restoring an r22 beta. But damn me the drimmel helicopter? Thats crazy well done

Your tenacity is to be commended on this one guys 👏

Stunning perseverance in the face of so much adversity. Good job!. I would have been tempted to tether the helicopter initially to save on the rebuilds.

“This is so much harder than it looks.” No, it looks really hard.

flying without cyclical control would be impossible. Youll lose lift when it wobbles or picks up to much speed. You need counter rotating blade to have any chance of that.

I'd love to see a multi-dremel airplane, like a twin-engine C-82/C-119 or a four-engine B-24/C-87. Blown away by how many iterations you went through for the helicopter. Great stuff!

You are one dedicated man Peter!

That's some out of the box thinking! Well done!

Given how difficult this project was, I’d like to see how easily he could make a Dremel powered airplane. I’m sure he’d have much more success

@SuperPhunThyme9

5 ай бұрын

what the hell is a dremel all I see is a grinder

@Endidixknsej

5 ай бұрын

@@SuperPhunThyme9dremel is the brand name

@Endidixknsej

5 ай бұрын

@@SuperPhunThyme9like an iPad is a tablet but everyone calls it an iPad

I don't know why but you should try to make a handheld circular saw to fly because you haven't made a bigger aircraft yet, it's also a power tool.

Make a chain saw drone BOI.

Good job Peter! This is a video that I read the title, saw the thumbnail and said "YES!" out loud. Immediate watch for me (I'm only 0:03 in to the video and had to post this comment).

Happy new year Peter!

This was awesome to watch. Knowing how long it takes just to make a new blade... I was kind of blown away by how much time went into this. That being said, you guys need to cool your jets when it comes to testing and not test it in an enclosed room with random hazards and things to hit to just increase the damage and breakage of every failed flight. Imagine if the wright brothers tested flying their first aircraft in their living room.

Few days later , mixer grinder is flying in the kitchen

Still 6h50m to go but happy new-year peter and family i wish u all the best for the new year 💓

You should make kits for stuff like this and sell them.

The propeller of the helicopter is stable but the circle pointy thingys is not do the opposite. The big circle pointy one is for the motor and the small one is for the propeller. So it has more speed

I appreciate the dedication here, thanks for the awesome video Pete!

Your next project should be making a vtol with it. Duel dremel CV22 Osprey.

@benjaminbrown3939

Жыл бұрын

Dual*

I think a lot of lost time and increasing frustration stems from mounting the center of mass pretty much in front of the whole apparatus.

the weedeater helicopter sounds *terrifying*

You should add the ballon portion of a hot air balloon to the outboard struts the propels are attached to on the hovering slay

Bots: CaN We ApPrEcIaTe AlL ThE EfFoRtS ThAt He MaDe?

The tail rotor fan blade should be longer for airflow.

@old_guard2431

Жыл бұрын

The horizontal stabilizer is blocking the air flow for at least half of the tail rotor. A disappointingly obvious design flaw. (Compensated for by the entertainment of watching Peter and his wrecking crew operate.)

I designed a belt drive EDF setup with a 33cc Ryobi engine in CAD. Bought parts to build it but never got around to it. I think it's a 5" EDF and I got 6-1 pulleys. Never got to building it but I still have the edf and pulleys. I now have a mill and lathe plus the Tig welder I needed then, but I build real car stuff now so who knows if I'll ever get time to mess with it again. I was planning on a f86 ish plane like 50-60" span. Love to see something crazy like that.

Haha the camera mans reaction every time it crashes... I love it! Have you thought of a 2 blade helicopter?

You should orient the dremel parallel to the rotors to balance the mass. Also do a coaxial rotor system to prevent the counter rotation and do a magnetic clutch to power and vary the speed for a push rotor.

id like to see a dremel tool on an rc airplane too please

I like the generic voice fixing your "oooppss"! I love the giddy giggling when you fire the thing up.

The flight @18:00 was pretty good, I would consider that a success. Retrofit jobs are always cool, sometimes they slip in under budget, sometimes you realize how much r&d the OEM's spent.

How about a brushless motor, battery and a prop In a tube and see how high it can go

@benjaminbrown3939

Жыл бұрын

That's essentially an airbreathing electric rocket.

A belt and pulleys would be much lighter and more efficient at transmitting power than plastic gears

@hamhouke

Жыл бұрын

I don’t know about lighter, because you add the belt. But it is a LOT more forgiving of slippage and sudden increases or decreases of motor RPM. I think they are inducing a whole lot of shock and vibration because the gear teeth will momentarily disengage when it flexes. A belt would soak up some of that difference in interface angle between the large and small pulleys. Also, when you take off, you really have to surge it to get it airborne. That is when the flex is worse and the gear slippage is the most detrimental.

@wowonice1

Жыл бұрын

@@hamhouke I think a belt would allow both pulleys to be a smaller diameter than gears for the same reduction, reducing width therefore weight, creating space between them allowing use of a smaller belt and reducing the weight of the support structure around it

@hamhouke

Жыл бұрын

@@wowonice1 Maybe, but that drive gear is pretty small already. If he made it smaller, that 22K RPM motor might burn though it due to the reduced surface area in contact with the belt. Of course, they could make the belt wider, but you would gain the weight right back. There might be enough torque with that motor to reduce the blade pulley diameter and get a bit more RPM to the rotors without bogging it down. Under load, the RPM of that motor is likely to be a lot less than 22K. I think that’s it rating if free spinning the spindle.

@wowonice1

Жыл бұрын

@@hamhouke Agreed. the only way to know for sure would be to try it, though either way with less energy being lost to friction and noise, weight reduction might not be as important anymore as more energy reaches the blades

If ya ever decide to do this again u have to support the rotor shaft at the top as its wobbling which is causin alot of the issues but also use some grease aswell

It's a miracle that no eyeball was lost during making this.

Now build a helicopter powered Dremel

@Elizabeth-fd1vd

Ай бұрын

Isn’t that what he’s building?

@Mattscalf

Ай бұрын

@@Elizabeth-fd1vd no he was building a Dremel powered helicopter lol