Hi there, Kartikeya here! Adding info to some things Shumi and I spoke about in the video and some extra fact nuggets you might like: -The 7.2KW charger cost was Rs50,000 pre-facelift. Should remain the same. - Vehicle to Vehicle charge transfer rates - Nexon to Nexon - 50km - in 1.2 hours, to any other vehicle it is 50km in 2 hours. - If you were wondering about the digital real estate on offer - The Empowered gets - a 12.3” (centre) + 10 (driver), its 10” + 10” on the Fearless and 7” + 7” on the Creative - Motor noise is 3dB lower, which helps with the quietness - Tyres have reduced rolling resistance by 10%. The range has gone up by about 30kms. It adds up. 😊 - Weight distribution is 50:50. Quasi BMW! - Eco mode is capped at 120kmph. City mode went past an indicated 140kph. Thanks for joining in the conversation!

@putaamit

8 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for such a wonderful content, always loved your content and separating EV and ICE videos was good call. Good to hear you guys on Nexon EV

@pushpakpal9613

8 ай бұрын

Thanks ❤

@ayush885

8 ай бұрын

Kartikeya, how do you feel about the iMT gearbox of the sonet? Comparing it with the 1.0 manual of fronx.

@pranay220

8 ай бұрын

I think in the past they have claimed a LRR tyres on the nexon, but mine has the same ecotread tyres which is shared with the ICE. I don't know why they claim that.

@satyabratapal8977

8 ай бұрын

ev to ev charging is an welcome thing. This comes in handy at places where fast chargers are not available or further away from the location where you are at but you have a fellow ev owner who can then top you up just enough to reach to the nearest charger.

Shumi is super chill for Car reviews 😂 and Karthik is very comfy in these car reviews

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

True that

@pratvachan

8 ай бұрын

I feel that this is their strength. One will be a listener for bikes and the other will be a listener for cars. THAT gives us the feel of being involved in the conversation with this listener's POV. Superb combo❤

I love the fact that Kartikeya is like a little child, so excited when talking about a car and Shumi is like that no-nonsense uncle who just can't wrap his head around all these new gimmicks these manufacturers provide. As I grow older, I can empathize with Shumi more and more. 😂

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Hahaha! Inner child.. inner child .. wakey.. wakey!

I love the way shumi sarcastically makes fun of cars and kartikeya laughs😂

@greensoulsGB

8 ай бұрын

His insights(sarcasms) are sooo on point! Sometimes it feels like - Hmm, why didn't anyone mention this before which was right infront of everyone's eyes! 😂 And then karthik also gives that - "Whaaaat?! I DUNNO" reaction! So funny and beautiful! 😂

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

😂 The two of them, we tell you....

I am convinced that the idea of separating the ICE and EV videos was the best. So much to learn. Tata EV is on a great heading and their efforts show. The 12 inch brilliant screen that wowed Kartik would also be appreciated a lot by the folks stuck in traffic jams 😊 Wonder if this was the inspiration behind it ?

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Not to be used in a moving car!

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

❤️ That could be the case!

@Anant.Bhatia.Antz_Bin

8 ай бұрын

Watching the World Cup on Hotstar would be a nice use case when stuck in Pune/Bangalore traffic. On the condition that it would stop the video bit and continue the audio as soon as the car moves 😊

Just a thought: This format of MotorInc First for older vehicles would be so cool. I feel a conversation between these 2 covers so much more about the vehicle than a review story does. And I can listen to them endlessly. ❤

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the recommendation! 🙏🏾❤️

Unsurprisingly fantastic. I am a car guy. I dream about motorcycles, but I know I can't risk my life on two wheels whenever I drive out. But I love Shumi's expression of exasperation at all the fussy car jargon, "personas", and minor features made out to be life-changing.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

😂

@dgupta42

8 ай бұрын

Even by Tata Motors standards and their penchant for special editions, they have taken it way too far this time. I agree with Shumi. The bosses at Tata Motors slipped up, they could have curated this far better. Too much meaningless choice makes it difficult to select the variant you want to buy. Nexon crossed that line and just kept on running, with someone sleeping at the wheel😅.

This is सत्संग for automotive enthusiasts! And the USP of this is absence of sudden and loud music in between. Just clear sound and discussion and that’s it. You guys are doing it great. 👍🏻

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thank you, Prathamesh.

This series and the conversation is just fantastic. I'm sure most of us wouldn't mind a little bit longer episodes as well. Splendidly put together and presented. Compliments to the whole team.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thank you! We will pass this on to the team.

Shumi's subtle expressions breaking 4th wall are SO DAMN GOOOD!! Reminds me of kevin spacey in House of card s!!

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

😂 Thanks!

Prebooked without a test drive and my empowered plus LR delivery is day after tomorrow. Happy for this positive review...❤😁😁😁

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Have fun! Congratulations!

@ashiqshajoos378

8 ай бұрын

Bro when did you book and where is your place.

@jithinthomas6011

8 ай бұрын

@@ashiqshajoos378 Kerala, booked two weeks before. They had 2 vehicles in transit during my booking, I arranged funds and confirmed one of them. Actual waiting period is 1.5 to 2 months .

Using nexon max from past 6 months as a primary car. Doing intercity every day about 220 km. End of the day left with 35-40% with avarage speed of 75kmph. The game is all about speed vs range. Highest i travelled 280km with 13% left with 75kmph speed. On other hand covered 152km in just 32% with the avarage speed of 58kmph. When you are using continuously you got to know better about your vehicle.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! Will be super helpful for others here!

Please add more graphics/photos/videos. Lot more when u mention about the car

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

We shall look into it.

These discussions feel like a breath of fresh air for the hungry mind! Gamechanger! One suggestion- Time availability is a real constraint for most of us. 3 formats- Long(30-45min), Medium(10-15min), Short (your faq style series of shorts) should serve a larger audience!

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the recommendation GS!

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thank you for the feedback. We will take that into consideration.

@greensoulsGB

8 ай бұрын

Happy to contribute😊

What Shumi said is absolutely right here that the regen is designed for the engineer's goals rather than user's goals in any other vehicle. To add to it, back when I was working with the team doing regen part (not in tata), we had asked this question but the need to provide regen in a vehicle to showcase as a feature is much higher than giving a usable feature. The 7% number can be practicle although the theory suggests more than 10%, but even the testing team really struggled to reach that number. If you so aggressively focus on getting the highest regen possible, you will end up degrading your driving experience for sure.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Noice! Glad to have an expert’s take. So how do you get around this? Because others have done it.

@pratiq7

8 ай бұрын

@@motorinc I would be happy to share once we do finish the right and usable solution, the process is still on.

In city, a range of 120 kms is good enough to become a primary car! Here in Bangalore, there are several charging points and there’s no reason for range anxiety.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Bangalore is one of the cities where the charging infrastructure is pretty good!

@arunkottolli

8 ай бұрын

Large Cities like Bangalore, Mumbai Delhi etc will build charging infrastructure, for smaller tier2 and tier3 cities, range is not a problem as people don’t drive 120kms a day and can always charge at their homes. It’s only for long distance travel, range becomes an issue.

There is something really magical about review from Karthikeya. Would recommend this channel to everyone who wants a funny quirky and on point review. Keep up the good work

I am nexon prime was a nice touch. 🤖↔🚚 As always an engaging conversation!

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Hey guys, what’s really amazing is that you are sitting on comfortable couches and we viewers can be anywhere with our phones, tablets or laptops… yet your conversation makes me feel that we are travelling together in Nexon EV.. ironically we don’t get same feeling with those cameras installed in cars at different angles in other KZread reviews…. it’s probably the in depth knowledge and clearer intent of its transfer is striking gold for you guys. Kudos team MotorInc, Kartik and Shumi.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thank you Anand! Good to know we are travelling well with you! 😁

Thank you so much for this channel. So refreshing in the world of "haan bhai, hum abhi diamond motors ke showroom mein..."

What an incredibly tight set! Thanks guys; was waiting for this specific video for quite some time. Might make the switch to EV with this facelift. Cheers!

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Awesome! Thanks for keeping us posted! 👍🏽

Damn that's some good summarization.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Woke up to this. Great start to the day💚

@tejasjoshi3946

8 ай бұрын

Me too☺️

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

🙌

Absolutely fantastic video. Kudos to both of you.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thank you for being here with us!

Thank you for the wonderful discussion. Help me out here - My primary concern with my current Prime is that i need more range and faster home charging speed (The claimed 3.3Kw is not real charging rate - they have capped it to 2.4Kw so that the charging plug does not heat, so it takes a lot of time to charge). Should i go for LR variant (more range and 7.2Kw) now? Or should i wait for newer models - i suspect that if i wait, i won't miss on fundamental changes in the powertrain (if they come at current price point) which this Facelift does not have.

Hi Kartikeya/Shumi, Your channel and specifically these 101 conversations are just another level. Your content, knowledge , humor, delivery & everything is just amazing..Kudos!! I drove the Empowered + and I am very positively surprised. It's a great package I feel. Just a query - Why everyone discusses just the math when it comes to comparison between EV vs Petrol/Diesel?? I drove Seltos ( IVT and DCT), Creta, City but none of them comes even iota close to the kind of drive quality Nexon.ev provided. Especially the Sports mode was just so much fun, the acceleration and then smoothness. None of this I saw in other mentioned cars, but still in all reviews it concludes with number of km you need to run to make this economically viable. Is there something a miss here?

So minimal. So professional. Absolute gold. Love how you guys discuss and present.

@motorinc

19 күн бұрын

Thank you for the kind words @AakashSingh999!

This is my first motorinc podcast and I love it like I love it

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Awessooommmee! Thanks for letting us know!

Thank you for the clarity. Please would you suggest nexon ev for a daily commute of around 80-100kms. Which is financially more viable ice or ev. If ice which one petrol or diesel.

Like you said in nexon ice videos, which variant would be the one to go for in your opinion?

I fixed guys , the way both of you explained is cool , Tata will get one new customer, I will come back with my nexon ev soon

Perfect time , yesterday on the way to office I was listening to ICE episode on Amazon, and I get to see this. By the way I have seen so many episodes even while just listening to it in the car I could imagine the facial expressions and shuttle non verbal communication between two of you.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Hahah Awesome!

Such an engaging conversation. Two different persona, both knowledgeable, made my 30 minutes of watch smooth, relaxing, empowered :)

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it Amit!

GREAT JOB Guys !!!!!

Thank you guys Phele mujhe bohot confusing lg rha tha varient ? persona of the Nexon aap logo ka mention kar karke mujhe yaad ho gya Thanks

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

You are welcome!

Such a wonderful video between two passionate people.. Kudos to the quality work.. Keep it up 👍🏼.. One thing I felt is this Q&A session almost breaks the rhythm.. Maybe a podcast-ish less formal approach with the free flowing puns and banter would do a world of good.. Either ways cheers 👏🏼 Eager to check your next work.. 🙏🏼

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!! We will try and see what can be done about this.

The detail you guys get into is impressive along with your wit. Keep it coming

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for the encouragement! ❤️

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Appreciate it! 🙏🏾

Shumi's smirks too look logical! 🙂 Love the conversations.. Great going guys 👍

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Shumi vibes!

Hey Thank you so much for this. I was eagerly waiting. Could you also please comment on the headlight performance. No one else is talking about it. It was just a small worry I had. Love all your videos. ❤

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

We didn’t drive it in the dark, so we couldn’t really test it out.

Hi Kartikeya & Shumi. Thanks for such an elaborate discussion. You guys stand out from the rest. 2 questions please. I'm an NRI so my visit is limited to annual vacation once a year for a month. Does it make sense to opt for EV since it will remain idle and uncharged for the rest of 10-11 months. Secondly, I'm torn between Nexon Petrol DCA & Elevate DCA. I know the advantage of having a NA Petrol engine, however my choice is dependent on second row seating and comfort. Please advise

Must admit that I cannot believe the fact that I watch two persons talking about cars sitting on a chair for 30 minutes. Very engaging and informative!!

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thank you and we are so glad to see that you like this format of reviews.

Love watching you guys ♥️

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing that ❤️!

Excellent discuusion guys, but i have non car question to you. What mike do you guys use? I don't find them pinned to you, is it a boom by any chance?

Cannot do but think of the old Talking Cars channel when I watch this. They were on another level. Well, good wishes for this one too.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thanks Nirmal!

Always love the conversation ❤

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

❤️

Great video per usual! But partially disagree with one point here. That is with respect to single pedal driving. Having had a Nexon EV Max , for a year now, i agree that single pedal driving is not intuitive. Its a slightly longer learning curve. I do 60 plus kms everyday of ORR driving, west BLR to east BLR, and after about 2k kms on the ODO, the regen is good enough that you adapt to single pedal driving automatically. There have been days where ive done the 30km to office without touching the brakes apart from the need to engage autohold. The previous gen Nexon Max blew my mind to the extent of sophistication that was on offer from Tata. And the fact that my previous car was a Indica Vista for a better part of a decade, it felt very natural when i shifted over to the EV max. And this iteration, is gonna be even better! Great car for what you get for the price IMO. Only thing i would have liked would be the option of turning off creep mode, then absolute single pedal would be possible with a bit of practice. On the range front, 280 to 300 km is easily possible with sedate driving. In my ownership experience, the worst that i got was 250km to 8% soc and the best ive had was 322km to 2% soc(range anxiety was real that day). Keeping the soc between 85% and 20% should give 240 to 260km on a regular basis once you get used to the car.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thanks SV! Appreciate you sharing your learning’s! Will be super helpful to many!

Really appreciate you talking about single-pedal driving. 😊 I have one question, when it comes to aggressive regen, how important it is to engage the break light for safety concern ❓

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

The brake light is engaged when regen braking occurs. 😀

Thanks for in-depth and clear analysis of the delta that has come in the gen2 of nexon ev.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Hey Sumit! Thanks for being here with us!

The XUV4OO felt like a unfinished project in comparison to the older Nexon EV and now with the Nexon.ev (dotted for extra pleasure?), they seem to have take the game 2-3 inches.. err.. notches above the existing XUV4OO and I think its a good thing. One, competition is always good. Customers are usually who benefit from it and secondly, the XUV4OO facelift is still in testing phase, so we can expect a lot of changes to either keep up or outclass the Nexon.ev. Offtopic, but I am wondering what Mahindra was doing after acquiring Maini Reva. They had the EV tech much much before Tata probably even started with the Nexon project and they just chose to just sit on it. They could have had the first mover advantage. But anyways, I think Tata did a fantastic job with the Nexon and even more so with the Nexon.ev. I feel (or rather assume) that the single pedal driving can still be achieved via a software update. While you talk about emergency braking, I think since the physical brakes can work in tandem with the regen braking, that shouldn't be a cause for concern. They could anyways limit the single pedal driving feature to say something below 40-50kmph. That way the issue of safety wouldn't be a concern at highway speeds. Did you guys get to check the headlamp performance of the Nexon /.ev? LED lighting seems cool and all but in almost every practical case its just overrated (Though Shumi's Ferocio could probably light up a concert). Its more to do with the color temperature than tech itself. it causes eye irritating for oncoming traffic cuz they use high beam as low beam doesn't really illuminate the road well. May be manufacturters should move to 4300k LEDs. Nexons has had the issue of being immovable if they break down (not sure if it is the case with other EVs too), have seen a few blocking apartment exits, roads etc. Has Tata done anything to address the issue?

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Hey LWM! Didn’t get to check headlamps. Will keep that in mind for next time. Regen - just software won’t cut it - because the higher regen charge can’t be channelised to the battery. Will check about the lock issue.

@TheLazyWandererMys

8 ай бұрын

@@motorinc Thanks :)

Hey Karthik... does this also have the fit and finish issues like on the ICE versions like the infotainment system being slightly off and all of that? Also did they update anything on the charging network of DC charging stations especially on the highways coz some of them are showing up on the map but aren't there when we went to that pin location. it is much needed on the highways coz we can't take much de tours to go into the center of that city get sufficiently charged and get out in the traffic losing some charge(yes one of that niche use case ).

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Yes, it also has similar fit and finish issues. The fast charger readiness/availability is dependent on the service provider. Have you tried Shell though?

Being a resident of a tier-3 city, I am not very enthusiastic about EV 4-wheelers but I love listening to these guys. Keep up the good content.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for making us a part of your world! 🙏🏾

@vignale666

8 ай бұрын

@@motorinc I don't see the reason why not so welcome.

I have a bone to pick with the Nexon. The charging is just too slow. Having it as someone's only car, you will end up doing some long distances some time over your ownership period of 5-8 years, and having to wait an hour at a desolate station to get back home can get really irritating very quickly. They need to fix that in their future models. Once you have enough range, which this does, charging speed matters a lot. And Tata have stopped the ball again

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Fast charging? Have you been using one?

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Given the limitations of the charging infrastructure and batteries in general, speeding up the charging process won't be easy. Also, electric vehicles cannot serve as single vehicle garages if long distance road trip duties are expected. Also, no matter how quick the charging times become, one will have to wait for an hour, which also depends on whether charging slot is free or not.

Amazing analysis and conversation. Please do an epic road trip too!

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion! We wouldn’t mind that at all. ❤️

Love the conversation..... Keep it this way

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

❤️

We have driven nexon ev max on eco mode for 230km using 64% charge. 36% remaining and to our estimate we can run for more 100kms.

Was waiting for this one

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thank you for your patience.

I love the intro music!!! 🖤🖤🖤

You guys kept it tight, cheers!

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

🙌

The subjective content quality consistently impresses, and the audio and video maintain a satisfactory standard. The audio, in particular, offers a soothing ASMR experience, complemented by your great voices.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Great to hear!

The Empowered MR feels good VFM to me, especially in places where road tax is higher since I think Empowered MR would be less than a lakh more expensive than Fearless+ DCA. I would also love to understand how useful some exclusive features are like EPB and auto hold. Just something for later, if there is another podcast around this topic :)

Having an small tv in the car while charging is all good. But how about the Aircon? How does it influence the charging time if the the aircon is kept on while watching the movie?

Great conversation

I love your channel!!! Indeed it is underated rn my gut feeling says this channel is gonna be a big name in future ❤ keep going we love your mature and on point conversation

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thank you! We've only just begun and with the continued support from people like you, we hope to to grow big.

Can all those cameras act as a Dashcam to record and store footage? Like Tesla. Just front and back or 360⁰ possibly?

Can you connect your laptop on the 12inch screen to take your Teams Calls ?

Ioved the nonchalant attitude that Shumi showed with the ice episode plugin. If you have time " the episode", if you don't a verbal " KZread short" kudos.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

🙌

Karthik maybe forgot about a cool feature. Understandable. But the DRL in the front of Nexon EV indicates the level of charging. Which is pretty neat for this segment.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Neat, but a gimmick. As the light doesn’t stay on. It comes on for a bit at the start of charging. Unlikely you will be able to make use of it after walking away since the car will be facing toward the charger in most cases.

@nithinkumar573

8 ай бұрын

@@motorinc Oh I didn't read that part, you're right then it's just a gimmick.

Guys, I'm still waiting for the videos on the Jimny.... Are there any on the way? I thought there would be a more detailed one involving a comparison with the Thar

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Hi. We shall make a video as soon as we get the test car.

Electric version gets rear disc brakes also, front connected drl

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Yessah! Rear discs were there on Max too. The LED indicator doesn’t stay on. It goes off after the charging process gets going.

As a country, Bharat needs a national EV technology mission. To develop all software, hardware design and battery technology and rare earth free motors, batteries, and design charging network. Companies can then license this technology and build their own cars.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Interesting point!

@arunkottolli

8 ай бұрын

@@motorinc I would argue that India should stop FAME2 subsidies and PLI schemes and use that money for developing core EV technologies. This will spur industrial development and value creation.

This becomes my most loved car show..❤

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thank you for the honour. ❤️

Back after few days.. Loved the conversation...

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

This video length is very good, the ICE one was a little long. This length is perfect.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Noted! Thank you.

When are you guys launching merch? "Is that what they're calling it?" would look great on a tee! Love what your both are doing with the wardrobe :)

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

We gonna call you MvP! ❤️

I would like to point out the DC charging speed for the Pre Facelift. They advertised 50Kwh, however its 30Kwh.

Wow that was short ...shorter P.S LOVED IT😊

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!!

Shumi go soft on K! Also show a few longer videos of the car as well when specific points are being discussed, makes us want to look at the screen more. Love the way Shumi looks at the camera to drive a point home! Kudos!

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thanks Ankit!

Excellent discussion.....I am just becoming your fan. ....

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Hullo TU! Thank you for being with us!

Hi Kartikeya, you did not mention if the off centred steering issue is there in the EV too. Here they had the option to re-engineer the platform.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

No, it’s the same issue here too. The platform is essentially the same. The floor pan has been adapted for the battery pack.

I love the intro song of this channel

I agree to what Kartikeya said and wanted to add something about Shumi's remark of one pedal driving on the Tesla - based on a 13 month long ownership and 20k kms driven on a Tesla Model 3 Long Range in the US. One pedal driving is predictable for the most part when it comes to braking but it is not as accurate as using a mechanical brake which becomes like a 2nd nature to you. One pedal driving can alter its behaviour based on the battery / motor temp, outside temp and also the state of charge. I have had experiences specially during the cold winters of Eastern United states that the regen brake felt way too weak and even though tesla compensates it by using friction brakes automatically to give you the same feel as that of regen but it still feels off at times. All in all one pedal driving is still a must have in EVs because it adds to the ease of use.

Awesome Guys ...Loved it .. I really enjoy those sarcastic bits 😂😂

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

🤣 Thanks!

I need to know the fast charging speeds, I want to do road trips with the car by hopping from 1 charger to another, max 80%. Would love to see the charging curve and find that sweet spot there

Should i go with thar diesel right now would it make a sensible option or go for petrol Diesel(1.5l) rwd would give good mileage plus it is less expensive than petrol .

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

The RWD with the 1.5 is good enough.

Lovely as always. Initial I was skeptical about such long format videos, but you make the discussion interesting, and 30 mins go by quickly. I think TATA's decision to give Sunroof as an option is brilliant. I hate it that we cannot buy the top model of Brezza or Exter without sunroof.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing Avinash!

It would be nice if this convo go for more long!!! It was so interesting

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Here is the deal, India is yet to reach the charging infrastructure penetration for 200km range even though the Metro city folks see charging stations regularly. . We need a real world 300km range for this thing to take off. I am talking about an average user like me who doesn't mind not having AC intermittently over my journey. . Pune Mumbai is okay but Pune Solapur or Pune Kolhapur or Pune Nasik is not there yet. Plus apart from Gujarat, other states don't have that kind of infrastructure. I have driven from Pune to Indor and it doesn't inspire confidence in me that EV would be feasible for such travel. There are such large patches all over india

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Hullo! Thanks for zooming into that. Guessing you are based in Pune?

Car brands should feel completely at ease with their naming choices. Shumi and Kartikay are just waiting eagerly to shower them with endless praise and admiration for their impeccable taste in naming the variants.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

All good things must be appreciated.

Such a cool intro!

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thank you, Samuel.

Hi. Please make a video on diesel cars. Is it advisable to buy diesel in 2023 especially for big Suvs like harrier and xuv700. I think thats a needed discussion.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Hey Kannan, the caveat is - you need to have highway used factored into your use. The regeneration process of the catalytic converter needs fast highway running. Without which it won’t drive smoothly. Many kilometers need to be clocked for it to be worth it too. So, do you really need diesel? We would recommend strong hybrids.

@17:10 Just to sure which version are we talking about when saying we can get 260km? LR or MR?

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

LR.. sorry about the confusion - we only drive the LR.

like your format of doing cars and bikes video. Ijust want a review of NEW APACHE RTR 310

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thank you! We are waiting for TVS to send us test bikes.

@yashshukla6514

8 ай бұрын

@@motorinc I thought these guys had ridden it in singapore

Both videos are very informative and specific, got me more clarity on the EV. Any chance to get a Hybrid for TATA ? Harrier with 2 Ltr ICE and a good battery pack which will be fun with added independent suspension which they miss still or may be i am just trying to fit all good things in one car @20- 25 lakhs :)

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video. A hybird Tata would also make a lot of sense and we hope they are on to something. As the Grand Vitara and the Toyota Hyrider have demonstrated, hybrids are a big success.

@dgupta42

8 ай бұрын

@@motorinc Recall seeing a video clip of a journalist asking Tata Motors about hybrids, and they suggested that car makers who don't have competitive EVs may need hybrids for compliance with CAFE rules, and said that Tata Motors don't need hybrids and their focus is pure BEVs. It is possible that it is truer of their passenger vehicles than LCVs.

@nishchaypallav

8 ай бұрын

Tata wont bring hybrids as of now.

@chebha1

8 ай бұрын

We are not ready for full EV's yet till we have the grid setup everywhere :) Hybrids are the way to go atleast for me is what i think , hope we get better hybrids @@dgupta42

My dad loves watching your content. U have already talked about the pulsar p150 in detail. But could u make a single review on it. Want to convince my dad to get it for me. Would be grateful ❤

Best duo 👍🏻

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thanks Nitin!

Superb reviews.. I got lot to learn from you guys... Keep making videos like this... Kartikeya can you please tell your shoes name and model?

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thanks Prashant! Appreciate that! Stay tuned!

When in near future, battery technology improves (e.g. Solid State Battery), will this Gen.2 Tata.ev support it? Also how much better is having 2 electric motors ?

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Hullo!! We don’t think batteries with dramatically different chemistries will be transplanted anytime soon. And these batteries will last. 2 motors would give more control - for sportier driving if used only on one axle. Or, it could go the awd route. So those are good to have, not must have.

The problem with EVs in this price range is that the premium one pays against the ICE counterpart takes nearly 1-1.2 lakh km to set off against the fuel cost saving. This, on an average, would take 8 years (@12000 km/year driving). Coincidentally, 8 years is also the time when battery warranty expires, and if anything happens to it post warranty, thats 5-6 lakhs worth of replacement. Given that we have zero clue about resale value of EVs and accounting the battery factor, I feel EVs desperately need a price cut as value proposition isn't very clear. Is a price cut even possible? No. Feels like EVs are just a transitional placeholder till we find a viable gasoline substitute. Hydrogen fuel? Only time will tell.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Well said! Thank you VR!

@shresthsonkar9207

8 ай бұрын

Fearless+ Petrol DCA is 16.4L and F+ EV LR is 19.4L EMI Diff is around 5K (19k vs 24k), if you spend more than 60k per year in fuel + servicing then it makes sense to go EV, if not then use petrol while prices drop This difference halves when you compare XZ+ tiago LR and XZA+ tiago AMT to 1.5L so technically, so does breakeven. All these prices are without subsidy.

@vardanrathi7777

8 ай бұрын

@@shresthsonkar9207 At what point does EV make sense completely depends on in how much time one wants to retrieve his extra initial investment (on EV over ICE). In Nexon's case and for an average user, it is 8 years (so it doesn't make sense). If someone wants it in 2 years, his driving should increase by 4 times which translates to roughly 50,000 km per year, which is extraordinarily high even for commercial purposes. For Tiago EV, an average user will get ROI in 50-60k km, which is decent enough. Now what companies are doing is, in order to reduce the ICE-EV delta, instead of reducing EV prices, they're increasing ICE prices especially at the top end!

@shresthsonkar9207

8 ай бұрын

@@vardanrathi7777 60K difference per year for Nexon EV comes to 5y for 3L premium The one for Tiago will be barely 2.5y The 60k is worth only 600L of fuel per year ie 9K km of driving in a year@15kmpl, a reasonable mileage for Nexon petrol. For everyone above 9k, it’ll be cheaper to go EV provided they have the budget. Regarding price hikes of ICE, it’s natural that newer pollution norms, safety norms and engine tech will need price hikes. I’m not advocating for the companies but even they have to run a business and pay people working for them. At the same time, these norms are also important to keep evolving in terms of safety and emissions as well.

dishkyauuu ......Mindblown... Thank you guys for such fantastic review. Just wondering Karitk sir if you have asked the guys at TAMO for a Hybrid like the city or the Hycross. I know that they have told in the past that its pure electric, but what do the guys feel about it. would love to know.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@nishchaypallav

8 ай бұрын

They wont bring hybrid.

I have a suggestion for your next Thisconnect podcast (waiting for Season 2 btw) ... The topic : Different Road Conditions in India (and otherwise) Expressways, National Highways, State Highways, Town/Village Roads, Bypasses, and how one should safely navigate while on them, w.r.t speed, alertness, type of cars/bikes being ridden, traffic density etc.

@motorinc

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the recommendation BR! Good one!

@bharatrajramachandran2023

8 ай бұрын

@@motorinc and one more .. a podcast on what many would call the most iconic motorcycle .. the Entire Bonneville series . 🙂 just coz i own both the t120 and my wife rides the street twin.. would really like to see what Shumi's take is on this (fingers crossed )