*Chapters* 00:00 Cosmetic Tata Altroz? 02:53 Is It Sporty? 05:43 What's Changed 10:53 Driving The Altroz 15:34 A Family Car 19:55 The Exhaust Note 21:19 Wait To Buy Altroz 23:50 Everyday Practicality 26:30 Consistent Experiences 28:27 New SUV Platforms 29:47 World-Class Tatas Needed 34:58 Design 37:00 Tata Altroz Electric? 39:21 Smaller Details 40:50 Quick Summary 45:57 What's Next 48:32 Closing Comments *Explore MotorInc memberships at* youtube.com/@motorinc/join

Petition for Karthik to review all 104 varients of the nexon 😂

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Maar daala!

@allenbt

20 күн бұрын

@@motorinc Don't be lazy Karthik 😂

@shaktiswarupsarangi8130

20 күн бұрын

Awesome 😂

@karamjeetsinghswaich

20 күн бұрын

While writing this comment, TATA has just added 3 more variants😅 sorry 3 more personas

i personally feel tata should drop a diesel version of altroz racer with a tuned up revotorq engine and a 6 speed greabox from nexon because the 1.5 diesel engine in altroz is a very underrated engine which can outperform the i turbo+

@BhaskaraVenkatesh

16 күн бұрын

@@jai9293 Like Ford did with the Figo Sport! That was another pocket rocket which people forget!

Altroz is a real underrated car. We own the 1.2 NA variant but trust me if you are upgrading from an entry level car like the Alto the performance will be great. It's enough for the city. If it's driver driven then no problem at all. The driving dynamics and comfort are spot on. Mileage isn't bad at 12-14 in city and maximum of 24 on the highway. All you need for a family car. Just take a bite for the service centres they aren't as bad as many say about. Quick tip try finding a service center in a small city or town. They are less crowded and give more time to your car.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Thanks PS! That’s helpful! How long have you had it?

@pratyasaha9876

20 күн бұрын

@@motorinc It's been 3.5 years she's born on October, 2020. She's been trouble free apart from the battery replacement which was done a few months back!

@harshaddhavalikar9123

13 күн бұрын

You get 24 on highway?

@daninwheels1006

9 күн бұрын

@@pratyasaha9876 Bro I own an August 2020 Tata Altroz Diesel with it's 90 bhp (I wished Tata gave it atleast 100 bhp) and fat 200 nm torque, I feel it's the best engine for Altroz with it's superb handling, perfect suspension setup and dream like steering feedback it is an underrated small beast 🔥

@pratyasaha9876

8 күн бұрын

@@harshaddhavalikar9123 Yes buddy at 80 kmph in eco mode

The engine upgrade the latest infotainment system sold me to buy this 🥵

@motorinc

17 күн бұрын

Thanks for letting us know!

Shumi makes me regret my choice of buying a Tata car everytime I hear him talk about them. On top of it being an EV owner I am just bracing for the next words that Shumi has to say about them 😂.

@motorinc

21 күн бұрын

😆 No need to be @rawalsushant. Once you have a vehicle, it's the best in the world for you. 😊

@Swagat_kP

20 күн бұрын

Shumi doesn't like cars. Don't regret your choice based on someone who's biased towards bikes. 🫂

@30harbakshsingh45

20 күн бұрын

@@Swagat_kPno no it’s just the tatas

@prakharmishra5581

20 күн бұрын

I am happy with my Nexon. It is my first car. Would I like other cars after that YES. But it's a nice car to have as your first.

@pvnewport

20 күн бұрын

Shumi reminds me of an average IT sector employee who is disgruntled with everything - unhappy with company, unhappy with project, unhappy with promotion, unhappy with salary, unhappy with hike, unhappy with canteen food, unhappy with that broken tap in restroom - some sort of an addiction to whine about everything and not leaving a chance to see the positives

Also with Karthikeya saying this should have been the Altroz GT, maybe Tata gets an idea, launch Altroz GT with minor cosmetic updates and launch another 42 variants. 😅

@motorinc

21 күн бұрын

Nooooo!

Altroz racer is the perfect hatchback in the city and outside as well 🙌

@motorinc

17 күн бұрын

❤️

@trustshankar

15 күн бұрын

25 people liked it and none of them will buy

On an unrelated note, I'd love an episode introducing the MotorInc team. Their work is fantastic, from visuals, to music, and edits.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Thanks for asking UB! 🙏🏾

If elders shouldn't race, what is Schumi doing at race tracks multiple times a year? As usual great banter!

@motorinc

21 күн бұрын

Not racing! But going faasst!

@kshitijpandey6514

20 күн бұрын

@surajshanbhag you are calling him an elderly person Man is just 50 I guess Not too old so racing is fine

@siddharthraghuwanshi3457

20 күн бұрын

​@@motorincjust like altrozz racer😅😅

@surajshanbhag

20 күн бұрын

@@kshitijpandey6514 he only has mentioned in his 50's which could also mean 59. On a serious note, knowing Schumi, he wouldnt want anyone who is not actually racing for a living, racing at all. His (and everyone at TWO riding school) intentions of going to tracks most times is to help others become better riders, 1 rider at a time.

@kshitijpandey6514

20 күн бұрын

​@@surajshanbhagfair enough was just saying that as a joke

Dear editor please make compilations of kartikeya's awesome sound effects and post it at the end of the year. 4:05, it was awesome.

@NripanNath

20 күн бұрын

I second this!

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Noted! 😆

@vithalbhai6066

20 күн бұрын

I loved the ugggfffhhhh in the carburettor part in the this connect episode 10

@himanshutanwani_

20 күн бұрын

Adding to the list - 14:38

At this point, Tata should just stop naming it's car variants and just introduce a "Build your own car". Feature wise pricing, add whatever you want and get the final price. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I don't think even the sales guy can remember all these variants.

Shumi might not be a fan of TATA's strategy of having a million variants but it's clearly working for them. Having so many variants gives consumers the flexibility to pick and choose what they want in their car which no other manufacturers offer. When we're spending lakhs on a car I believe people don't mind taking their own time going through the feature list and comparing the variants to pick what suits them the best.

@motorinc

21 күн бұрын

Hey VB, good to have your take. Choice is good. Too much choice is crippling. 🤷‍♂️

@Aditya90sKZ

20 күн бұрын

I like having other way around give me choice of features list i can add and pay for only those. Sell the car with all safety tech with just the essential and I'll decide which features i want

@siddharthraghuwanshi3457

20 күн бұрын

​@@motorincespecially for dealers itself..

@amitkrupal1234

20 күн бұрын

Tata is still missing lot of cars, No cars in A-segment. Does Nano's failure made Tata tram lethargic. Also why Tata isn't launching CUV on Tiago's platform. Just saw Suzuki's June 2024 sales 1.2 lakhs with 7 out 17 models in top 10. Tata might have only 1-3 models. Punch might be no 1 in sales. But sometimes success blind you(Tata) They need more cars instead of more variants

@give-me-guts-to-accept-truth

20 күн бұрын

This video should be published on ...tv so everybody can watch it and they couldn't know the truth about highly overrated altroz#racer

Psych exam in an hour guys, I'll be back to tell how it goes and watch this!

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

All the best! Keep us posted!

@rahulsinha9031

20 күн бұрын

How was your exam?

@tanmaygirotra2724

20 күн бұрын

How was it??

@PureRythm

20 күн бұрын

Ayo, how was the exam?

@subraaaanshu

19 күн бұрын

thanks guys ! it went phenomenal !

Sales team of Tata : Alok Nath Service team of Tata: Rami Reddy Ownership experience: Nirupama Roy

Sumi woke up and chose violence 😂 roasted both Indian car buyers and companies 😅

@kshitijpandey6514

20 күн бұрын

He expects us to increase our standard but we just sit back and disagree and worship what we have But he has experienced world class stuff in his riding career and he expects us to feel those emotions I guess Which is why he questions our taste cuz I am pretty sure manufacturers love to lobby instead of taking the competition head on That's why he was proud of what the new himalayan 450 which did try to be the best adv it possibly could which is why he liked it Hope more manufacturers take on the foreign competition than lobby against it🤞🤞🤞🤞

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Absolutely!

I saw the tata altroz racer in the showroom And oh boy does it look so good looking just love the car for it looks.

Great episode guys. One of the main things that I have faced as a prior Tata Nexon owner, the BS6 variant, is the fact that these cars are not reliable. I had that car for around two years and there was a coolant issue which led to the coolant getting mixed in with the engine oil and I ended up having to sell the car because of all the hassles at a much depreciated price than the actual value. For this issue, I blame the car itself and a lot more blame goes to the Tata service across the metro cities of Kolkata and Delhi for never servicing properly despite me sending the car time and again. This has just made me very very apprehensive towards newer Tata cars. The new Altroz Racer as far as I could tell from your episode is just another cosmetic upgrade whereas they need to work on their engines and reliability. All of this is just a distraction. P.S I now drive a 2018 GT TSI 1.2 and couldn’t be happier.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Happy GT TSI-ing! ❤️

We need shumi going for a car launch P S :I am never going to stop commenting until this happens.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

We are with you!

@gokulakrishnan8571

15 күн бұрын

​@@motorincEspecially Tata launch! And Ofc, he has to remember all the variants along with the pricing, some of which would not be revealed at launch :)

Indeed Glanza/Baleno are the best all rounder. K series engine that’s a love and buttery smooth. They are the king when it comes to 1.2 NA. i20 is best when we go for Turbo variants and worth all penny. Altroz is one which I want to love but it has niggles at engine end which is heart of any vehicle. It’s like Tank but having a rust at function level which spoils everything. Tata needs to overcome this at earliest and I will be the first one to book and say vocal for local ❤. Waiting…

So many people are totally unaware of Altroz Diesel which has 90 bhp and 200 nm torque and boy oh boy it's a beast with it's perfect steering feedback and suspension setup and that lovely chassis it's so so good and I'm a proud owner of an August 2020 Tata Altroz Diesel ❤

@motorinc

8 күн бұрын

Glad to hear that @daninwheels1006. Thanks for sharing!

There should be an episode on indian brands as well, like you did on japanese brands on podcast. Like how well are they doing 2W, 4W, ev and all. And where Indian automobile industry stand at global level.

Its not good to question Tata's consistency. I mean they have been rolling out consistently safe & good cars, which are consistently lacking tight QC & niggle-y, and supported by consistently bad dealership experience!😂

@motorinc

21 күн бұрын

You almost had us there @museycal!😅

@srajandikshit7590

18 күн бұрын

If those Tata stans could read they'd be very upset

This engine should have been the one when the car was launched, given the beautiful platform it is built on.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

So true RS!

I like the oversized tees that @Kartikeya wears in many of these podcasts.. Where can I get those ?

@zonejvm

20 күн бұрын

@@tanush7789 looks really comfortable, even I want to know

4:16 completely agree. There are a lot of vocal Polo fans out there, but the Figo was the benchmark in terms of handling characteristics and fun to drive nature.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

❤️

You are absolutely bang on right on Mumbai-Pune highway cruising around 120 kmph you'll always feel a gitter no way it's disturbing or uncomfortable but yes you'll feel it, but again it's very comfortable

Question : would the stripes affect lane keep assist on SUVs following the racer?

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

That’s a good question. We hope not!

Absolutely spot on with the "experience" factor of owning a Tata or any other brand. Being an owner of 4 years old grand i10 nios amt and 1 year old altroz dca, I must say I wish I had gone ahead for the i20 ivt. Hyundai just gives a hasslefree experience overall.

@KeyurGoswami

20 күн бұрын

How's your overall experience with DCA (Specific to Gearbox)

@Ariwin10

20 күн бұрын

@@KeyurGoswami it's good till now. Smooth and quick shifts, been on long drive Pune to Goa in flat highways, narrow and uneven country and hilly roads, no problem at all. And yes it's talking point is always the suspension comfort. My comparison reference is my own grand i10 nios amt. For an amt gearbox nothing can beat Hyundai.

@KeyurGoswami

20 күн бұрын

@@Ariwin10 thanks, I have NA altroz petrol 2021 model and looking to upgrade to automatic but waiting for DCA and turbo combination. I drive from Bangalore to Ahmedabad twice year and yes suspension comfort is top notch and it’s mile muncher without any issue. But NA is slow as slug

You guys seem to really enjoy the Baleno. Can you please discuss that car in detail too? Perhaps covering the older generations too

If you like Tata Altroz Racer and holding back due to the way it looks, just take it to a reputed detailing studio after delivery and get the bonnet wrapped in body colour shade. Not sure about Orange but the White and Grey wraps are easily available.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

😆👍🏽👍🏽

First comment here. We've had our iturbo for a couple of years now. Wife and I love it to bits. It's a joy to drive out on open and twisty roads. When this racer came out i was a bit relieved that the the mechanical upgrades were only slight. It killed the fomo I had since the racer was announced last year. I felt this review was slightly lacking - I'd have liked it if karthikeya touched upon the updated ice system, whether or not the ventilated seats do their job well, sunroof functionality - these are new to the altroz after all. Lacks a comprehensive interior review in general. Usually the 'first' series addresses these.

@motorinc

19 күн бұрын

Thank you for the feedback @Rururay. We'll hopefully get to test it for longer and if we do, we'll address the common questions there too.

Polo not being a sporty car is a great perspective! I have a Taigun GT+ with 17s and have noticed that understeer thing in a few occasions of pushing it beyond the limit. Especially with the factory Goodyear Tyres which are bad. Now I have changed to Conti UC6s and it is much better to drive but I have not pushed it beyond 10/10ths yet. Also the fuel economy has dropped by 7-10%. The more I drive this car, the more I realise it is more of an awesome GT than a sporty car. So according to you, how has the chassis balance changed from Polo/Vento to Taigun/Virtus? In terms of understeery nature etc? Would love to know your thoughts! Also, what would be the best sporty car below a BMW 3 Series? Or let’s say under 50 lakhs? Just the driving dynamics without considering anything else? It seems to be a dying breed! Also it’d be interesting to know what are such options we used to have that are not present anymore! Maybe we can chat in the comments or would love to see a complete podcast on this topic!

My Grande Punto still sets the bar high in driving dynamics and very engaging irrespective of road conditions.

Shumi is the real life version of the phrase“setting cat among pigeons”. Though I find his views of safety very irksome but mad props and respect where its due, calling spade a spade in these time where auto companies will shadow-ban you for even looking at them wrong.

@motorinc

19 күн бұрын

Thank you for the backhanded compliment @RangerV8!😅

Another MotorInc video morning! Good Morning 🏍️

@motorinc

21 күн бұрын

Morning Sreejat!

When I saw the Altroz Racer's ad on Instagram for the first time, I was excited - finally a hot-hatch! It was full of beautiful images, that I realized were heavily edited / AI generated. Then I read the caption. They'd highlighted the paintjob, sunroof, comfort, infotainment screen, and whatnot. No words about the suspension, no 0-100, no performance data. No substance, all gimmick. C****ya samajh rakha hai in logon ne customers ko -_-

@motorinc

21 күн бұрын

Go faster looking. That’s top priority.

@MikBan

20 күн бұрын

Sadly that's what we have come to in India. People love the gimmicks more than what's underneath your butt. That's why no hot hatch is on sale today except one. Punto Abarth, Polo GT TSI, Baleno RS, Tiago JTP - they all died because they offered substance and less/no gimmicks. At the end of the day you need numbers.

@athuldominic

7 күн бұрын

Citreon C3 turbo available now​@@MikBan

Figo / Freestyle tdci diesels are relatively tougher to find in used market nowadays, seems after Ford left India, people started taking them more seriously.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

😔

@sauravkr2011

19 күн бұрын

I think ford didn't take India seriously. And the nail in the Coffin is the Sanand plant and the Ford Mahindra partnership didn't happen.

@AKDEO

19 күн бұрын

@@sauravkr2011 that's true. Ford had very few cars in the portfolio. Although they were good, They lost their perceived value & weren't considered during the buying process. Whereas frequent latest launches that other companies made eg Kia, Maruti, Tata, Hyundai etc. stole the show.

Why doesn't the Abarth Punto ever come into conversations of used, cheap(ish) hatches to buy? Its always the Polo GT TSI. You don't even need to work a lot on the suspension unless you're looking for an autocross build, because it is a fair bit stiffer than the regular Puntos. The chassis was always great, and it comes with the T-Jet engine in its highest state of factory tune. The only drawback is the skinny tyres.

@MDK2306

20 күн бұрын

100

@pranavp386

20 күн бұрын

Same issue as the Polo. Average chassis, average suspension but decent drivetrain.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

The issue with it was the weight. And it was still a bit tall. These affected handling and performance. It could have been so much more.

Either Tata's conversion system is faulty or they just boost the economy numbers. My Tiago xza-petrol shows economy of 16km/pl in the city and 21 km/pl out on the highway, but it actually delivers 11-12 km/pl in the city and 17-18km/pl on the highway.

came for I don't know why? Stayed for the puns 😂

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Had pun?

Eagerly Waiting for detailed talk on Bajaj CNG Freedom

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Noted!

Did they fix the offset steering wheel? And how do buyers miss out on this? When Altroz was launched, I remember going to the showroom and sitting in the demo car and the first thing I noticed was the steering is offset. Same thing with Nexon.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

They can’t change those elements once the car is in production. That has to be fixed at the drawing board level. 😑

@NikhilSinghtherock

20 күн бұрын

After owning nexon and altroz for the last 4 years , I'm hearing these issues for the first time 😅 Haters need to just relax

@QuickFlickDashCam

20 күн бұрын

@@motorinc when I saw the Nexon facelift episode where Karthik mentioned the steering in Nexon and Altroz is offset, I was ecstatic because none of my friends believed it! MotorInc is the only channel that has mentioned this on record

Hey guys! Been waiting for an Altroz episode for a long time now as I purchased the previous iturbo last year. In the time I’ve spent with it, I found it’s a beautifully handling car, in fact surprisingly so I’ve you’ve ever driven the Punch or the Nexon. The NA engine felt absolutely gutless, the turbo allows for a little more enthusiastic driving but it only fills in for a deficiency in performance rather than adding a surge of power. I’m wondering how big the delta is between the performance of the iturbo and the iturbo+. Would it be worth it to explore an ECU retune to match that 10BHP gain or let it be as it is?

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Not enough for your to FOMO! Enjoy your Altroz MD!

See when tata had launched their JTP s no had brought that . We had lost a diamond in search of gold. As a tata motors fan they should improve their consistency and QC for their passenger vehicle industry survival. We all love TATA and Mahindra.😊😊😊

Currently I am an owner of Honda CB350rs & completed almost 26000kms & planning to upgrade something fresh & different! These 3 are on my wishlist Honda NX500 Suzuki vstrom 800DE Honda transalp 750 Will you guyz cover these bikes since it has been a long time these bikes launched in India🤷

@AustinFernandes-m8j

20 күн бұрын

Even I am waiting for honda NX500 review for so so long😢

@rohannnsurve

18 күн бұрын

Waiting for the boys to cover the big bikes

Rather than working on launching new cars Tata should work on their engines and electronics for 1 year and they can take over the market. They are curving everything but not curving the engine manufacturing trajectory.

Why cant manufacturers sells cars with the basic requirements and the features as a option list, where we can choose what we want?

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

That’s a must now.

@main_stream_media_is_a_joke

20 күн бұрын

A made to order with just the components you want would be a dream....and most people would willingly wait for some time before taking delivery. All extra features are basically plug and play/slot in components.....so it's really a mystery that companies do not offer a "make your own car" option on their web site. But then it's not just an issue with India.......afaik no one in the world gives the customer the option of "make your own car"....other than the super luxury segment.

The intro is 🔥 as always, i always listen to it twice 😂

On quality, when I was looking to buy my first motorcycle in 2007, I was thinking between Pulsar/Discover v/s Unicorn/Achiever/CBZ Extreme. I got some very sane advice from a senior who told me - Go for a HeroHonda/Honda, because on day-1 Bajaj will ride as well or better than HH/Honda, but after 3 years of use, HH/Honda expereience will be 85% of day-1 while Bajaj will be 60% because of niggles. Same thing with Tata/Mahindra v/s Suzuki/Hyundai

@motorinc

18 күн бұрын

Sorry are Tata/Mahindra supposed to Honda or Bajaj in this parallel @saligramvishwanath1?

@saligramvishwanath1

18 күн бұрын

@@motorinc :) I mean Tata/Mahindra to be Bajaj in terms of quality and reliability

@saligramvishwanath1

18 күн бұрын

Bajaj has come a long way in last 15 years and proved their ability to develop good vehicles, but in 2007-08 they were still going through the transition

Where do you get your shirts from dude looks cool

Congratulations Tata, you killed another hatchback.

The title should be : Roast of TATA Motors feat. Altroz ibalaji edition.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

😁

Altroz Racer or fronx turbo which is a better balanced purchase , I would think fronx turbo as racer isn't racer enough.

Hey Karthikeya, what would be your opinion on the Abarth Punto as an enthusiast car? Looking to get a used one.

And They are marketing it as India’s first sports car 😂

Still room for improvement in R&D sector of Tata, to feel it's presence in Indian road in coming days

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Definitely!

I own a Figo and I can't get my head around why it failed. We need an episode on why India doesn't like "good" cars

@anishkancharla9675

20 күн бұрын

Are you listening @motorinc? Fiat Linea, Cruze, Figo, and so many were there

@sauradeep99

20 күн бұрын

@@trideep220280 rear seat experience ruined the sales.

@sauradeep99

20 күн бұрын

I think the rear seat experience in the Figo was simply unacceptable. I've had the pleasure of renting it quite a few times for trips, and everytime I got to the backseat, it felt like those were there just because they needed to be there. No bottle holders, vents, space. Definitely wasn't the all rounder that the Indian market values.

@sauradeep99

20 күн бұрын

​@@anishkancharla9675the cruze had good reason to not be successful. It looked and went better than most, but the quality and reliability definitely played a part in its demise. And the Linea failing makes less sense, until you look inside it. It was spartan at best, and the Verna and City were far better in terms of creature comforts, and that feel good factor.

@swapnilbarhate6229

20 күн бұрын

​@@anishkancharla9675Cruze was a terrible car

Exactly... Very well said about the sport variant from any brand... The best way is done by Hyundai because the normal i20,Creta and i20 N-line and Creta N-line feel like different cars and drive like what it was meant to be the Hot hatchback...

@motorinc

21 күн бұрын

Yep! It’s legit sportier.

@18.40 when shumi said stick your head out of sunroof, Just imagine & google and person driving a tank & looking out of the hatch, you will instantly imagine what it will look in car.🤣🤣

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

😆

You both are rockstars. Thanks for this channel

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Thanks for being here with us!

I was a former fanboy of Tata. Desh ki mitti, desh ka namak . With inflated pride and acidity I bought a tata vehicle. The sales team was amazing. When the time came for servicing, with every service of the vehicle I could see degradation in how the vehicle drove, how it handled , reduced fuel efficiency etc. Strangely just a day after the expiration of the extended warranty, TASS told me the front suspension needs replacement, steering rack is damaged etc. Changed above stuff. Don't drive the car now. Got old maruti zen , it laughs at me every day. Bloody fanboy😂

@motorinc

19 күн бұрын

Oh wow this was a rollercoaster of a read @aniketvaidya628. We'd suggest that you drive it intermittently though because parked cars can actually lead to more problems.

37:27 I thought shumi would call it Altrozev not Altroz E V😅😅😂😂

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

😁

Absolutely brilliant video. Loved the conversation. The summary is brilliant😂

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Thanks for joining us @elijahnissi.

We are still not able to listen to the video on KZread after locking the screen despite having KZread Premium as well as the All Access membership :(

@motorinc

21 күн бұрын

Hello Wilson, this is a know issue with KZread. Please try and update your app and see if it works.

@sreejat

21 күн бұрын

Haha I’ve got the same problem seems like a KZread issue

@Asaritwo

21 күн бұрын

We have Updated App but don't seem to work 😅​@@motorinc

@motorinc

21 күн бұрын

Sorry to hear that. We have heard from some users that the newer version fixed that.

That, Polo and Mint joke, Shumi 😂👌🏻

About the suspension: I own i-Turbo for the past two and a half years and I do not understand the need to tune it further. Cause, the suspension is clearly mature and very stable at good speeds. I have no experience with i20 (n-line or regular), all the talks about the suspension tunes for the n-line and how it gives better stability than the non n-line, clearly states that i20 regualr is not fairly stable at good speeds. But, cutrent Altroz lineup is very stable. Maybe Altroz, didnt need a suspension tune or chage. Even if they did, it would make very samll difference with the existing Altroz lineup. What your thoughts on this?

@Kiranthaus

20 күн бұрын

@@AmP_BYD i own the regular i20 and have test driven the nline many times and altroz, the normal i20 has a softer suspension compared to the nline, the dampers are stiffer on nline. This doesnt mean the normal i20 is unstable, its just more comfortable and has more body roll. While the nline handled superb at speeds through corners, the car stays more flat and doesn’t nose dive under breaking, doesn’t understeer like the polo does and rear is stable unlike the altroz. Ive lowered my normal i20 on cobra and it’s drastically improved the handle. Its on par with the stock nline now but nline with cobra suspension is just better, the stiffer damper help a lot. Yes its a lot uncomfortable but for a driving enthusiasts it doesnt matter. The nline is better than any other hatchback sold under 15laks in india.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

It would be fun to have both together to see what happens.

I heard the stripes are just stickers, which are removable. Correct me if I am wrong

@NripanNath

20 күн бұрын

Heard the same thing

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

You are right!

Great observations for how Indian brands can be successful and how important this is as we have all the logistics to export our made in india products. I think it will be hard for any brand to scale down the number of variants as this will have impact during servicing and reselling the car. Tata should hire Shumi as a product marketing consultant

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

All they have to do is ask. We just want better machines.

Damn this was unexpected. I was holding by decision to book Racer for this episode and I am glad I did.

I turbo+ with DCA minus the flashy cosmetic bits is a better choice, now my question is should I wait for this variant or buy a fronx turbo AT?🤔

You forgot about blind view monitoring . This is the cheapest car with ventilated seat and blind view monitoring system. Also 120 ps at 12 lakhs and 11sec 0-100 is almost as good as slavia or virtus 1 .0 at their base price with good mileage. If this has tall seating even being a hatch back what would you comment on germans tall seating. I am not tata fan boy.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Thanks for pointing it out! Appreciate it EB!

@srikarvundavalli5934

15 күн бұрын

The i20 N line has the same 120ps from a much more refined engine and a very nice shifting manual gearbox for the same price. I’m not sure why anyone would pick the Altroz racer over that thing. Also the N line has a sub 10 second 0-100

@explorebharat8111

15 күн бұрын

@@srikarvundavalli5934 weight difference is the issue. Altroz will has scored 5 star and i20 i guess isn't even 3 star

i am in the market for the same class of cars what do you suggest me i20nline n6 manual or altroz racer?? yes i will be looking out for test drive but whats your suggestion where should i lean my self according to your suggestion

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Envious! N Line please. Let us know once you have driven both?

Hi Kartikeya, Out of Altroz Racer & I20 Nline which one would you pick?

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

It’s a clear pick - N Line. If it was a regular kind of hatch then Baleno.

@Iam_AkhilKapoor

20 күн бұрын

@@motorinc Thanx! Hv booked the same

@motorinc

19 күн бұрын

Congratulations @Iam_AkhilKapoor! We wish you a wonderful time with the car!

I too think this is a marketing team's car not an engineer's car. They did their survey, benchmarked it against competition for "value for money" and created a value for money product to drive sales rather than have a halo product in the lineup. When they launched the JTP, Tata didn't have the numbers they are doing right now and it was a much bigger gamble. But now that they are doing better financially, they seem to have become more risk averse. Reminds me of the scenario from the movie Dark Knight Rises, the only person who is able to actually jump out of the "well dungeon" is the one who does it without the safety net. Safety net makes you hold back a bit. On a different note, the Tata inconsistency seems to be more of the other functions of the company not being able to catch up. While their R&D team is doing a good job, their procurement, production and QC don't seem to have caught up with the kind of products the R&D has envisoned. Plus, the aftersales doesn't seem to have progressed much from the time they were servicing Indicas. Calling this out from the recent experience of buying a Tata Punch in the family.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Hey @akseffect88! Thanks for sharing your take. We agree that Tata has a lot that they need to improve on. Here's hoping that they do before it's too late.

Shumi asking the question at the begining is it new and karthik's expression was really every tata owners reaction. And i love it when these 2 talk. People see the humor and without knowing listeners are taught on every podacst. They are the teachers we need.😂

Please make a video on Xiaomi SU7 and your thoughts on the future in India.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Hi @shreeharimenon5275, we believe currently it's just a showcase. If Xiaomi decides to launch it in India, we'll share our thoughts once we get to drive it.

Hi Team, I had one question which I wanted to ask and also your opinion if that's ok. Why don't Mahindra and TATA join hand? Mahindra will get products like altroz and Tiago and TATA will have their Engine + Transmission. Just a thought

IMHO, Tata makes great looking cars/SUVs. It's a shame, the driving dynamics don't go hand in hand with the packaging.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Heya Rupin, do you have one?

@RupinPahwaOfficial

20 күн бұрын

@@motorinc almost bought the updated Harrier. Gurgaon roads, speed bumps, potholes, the usual story. waiting for the Curvv-e 🤞

The rainforest challenge comment does make one think. If not for the SUV craze in the market, Tata could have done such a great crossover. This is such a Subaru thing.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

😆

27:05 just an exception where tata turned around dud aria into fantastic Hexa although it didn't sell that well

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

👍🏽 Have you driven both?

@Nave2nkumarshah

20 күн бұрын

@@motorinc Actually none...but whatever I have heard and read about it.... Btw what's your take?

As an owner of Altroz naturally exasperated petrol and having done 54k km till now, I can say that the strong points of the car are excellent handling, great ride quality on high ways, good brakes and good steering feedback. The biggest problems are the stupid clutch with the bite so high that it is akin to plucking dates from a palm tree and that notchy long throw gear lever. Engine although less powerful and unrefined, but its not that bad as it is made to look by this combination of gear lever and clutch. As long as u are driving a sedate pace or unhurriedly this is a nice and comfortable experience. The moment pace picks up it becomes difficult to time the clutch release properly and the notchy gearbox takes forever to shift, at times even refuses to shift and u can never maintain the revs leading to a very jerky ride. With the racer I expected them to work on the usable clutch bite range and the gearbox and from the looks of it, that has not been the case. 0-100 timings doesnt matter, I was looking for a car which is easier to drive when the pace picks up. Unless they work on the clutch and gearbox, there is nothing that excites me in this car. And the cherry on top is the Balaji ka tilak 😂.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Heya B! Spot on - the clutch still bites high up. But you don’t have to make as many gear changes in this. So, it didn’t feel as annoying. Thanks for your report on the car.

@freudiansnipad4301

20 күн бұрын

I know it was a typo, but 'naturally exasperated' might just describe the Tata buyers' state of mind after they get their vehicle :P

@PradeepKumar_prad_pune

20 күн бұрын

@@freudiansnipad4301 😀

@AjayThakur-qw6yo

19 күн бұрын

Who is gearbox supplier of Tata motors same jerky clutch operation with notchy gear changes is found in Tata Nexon which is quite disappointing while driving it in hills

@bondof69

18 күн бұрын

​@@freudiansnipad4301 that's for the online guys who have always panned Tata's engine. Believe me the ownership is smooth if you can overlook the idiosyncrasies. No major issue as such and definitely not unreliable as it is made to be in the online forums. Our altroz had small rattles on day 1 and they have remained the same in intensity in the last 4 years and 54k km later. However our Swift Vxi petrol was smooth as butter when new but now after 80k and 6 yrs later, I don't even need a horn. The whole car rattles. The suspension as well as the body panel rattles so much that it is difficult to pinpoint the source of the rattle and roof has a dent because an uncle in a family function thought it wise to lean on our car roof when he was dishing out his opinion about the function😢

Figo & Ford in general are arguably the best handlers int wh world!! We have one 1.4 TDCi from 2012 & it handles sooooooo well!!😌😌

I purchased the tata tiago last year, it doesnt get driven a lot (8000km till now) major problem i am facing car gives mileage of 12-13kmpl the tata service people say nothing is wrong with the car (I am yet to take it out to a 3rd party mechanic) and there are two small problems in the software sometimes when i start the car the sound system starts and works but the screen doesnt it gets resolved by a restart and once the reverse sensors stopped working with a warning on screen saying take it to the service center which again got resolved by a restart. Finally another small issue the air pump they give us with it complimentary it stopped working after the first use. I believe all of these issues are small issues but they do add up to an inconvenient experience except for the mileage because oh my god i am a student and that car drinks petrol like a college student drinks OMR.

Batata is thing which Shumi suggested Jawa to do right ?? How would he feel about 4 engines with different tuning on same chasis

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

That suggestion was specific to Jawa @kshitijpandey6514 because looking at the bikes' appearances, you'd think they'd all ride differently but the engine tuning is the same on all of them. It isn't applicable universally!

@kshitijpandey6514

20 күн бұрын

​@@motorincah ok thanks for clearing that up

The IAF prefers Mirage and Rafale over apna LCA, and the Indian Army is finally getting the Kalashnikov AK 62 it's been demanding. How unpatriotic!!!

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Hahaha

India needs a sportscar that is relatively affordable that can lead to fun driving more on Indian roads , something like the Duke 390 but for cars

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

So true!

I am one of those who own the Alteoz i-Turbo. The sole reason to purchase was that Polo was getting discontinued and i20 N-Line only had an automatic transmission and JTPs were already gone. Worst thing about my car I feel is the gearbox which I hope has improved with the 6-speed as the 5 speed is bad. Still love my car though and for me it’s best in the world. Thanks MotorInc

Shumi and his CURVY puns🫡🤣

@kshitijpandey6514

20 күн бұрын

More like Curvicé and Curev puns 😅😅

Tata Altroz BEN 10 Omnitrix Edition ⌚⌚

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Please explain! 😆

@kabyamtalukdar3066

20 күн бұрын

@@motorinc the atomic orange dual tone color scheme of the altroz racer looks kinda similar to the color scheme of the Ben 10 alien force watch known as Omnitrix 😅

@chrisredfield3467

19 күн бұрын

​@@kabyamtalukdar3066I misread it dominatri x

@athuldominic

7 күн бұрын

😁

Can I ask how is the steering feedback, I have been listening to complaints for most cars suffering with a pull towards left.... Is it here in this car as well...

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

We’ll wait for a full test and then get back. This was a brief time with the Altroz.

@vethanishanth6667

19 күн бұрын

@@motorinc So, what I understood from the podcast is, this car has more Tooning than Tuning...🫠🤣

After using Nexon for 3 years now im already inclined towards buying a foriegn brand as my next vehicle. So im looking for a new bike and im like i cant go for Indian brand again, i want a superior quality product. No compromises! No RE, no Hero!

Rating this a five star😊. I just love the way schumi describes his points and shows his disappointment. Some may think of it as being over-critical but we need more people like him in the automotive journalism where there is an absolute lack of criticism for any car. We need more Schumis - seriously. Kartikey just complements the show as that base key board player in a band whose work is core to the band but it’s not over the top like the lead singer or say the - guitarist 😊 Kudos to both of you.

@motorinc

18 күн бұрын

Thank you for joining us @soumyapune.

tata should have put their new 1.2 tgdi motor in altroz racer.This is an oldskool engine. competition offers much much better engine than altroz using new tech etc.

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Let’s see how it is first. 🤷‍♂️

4:20 N Line representation! Good point about them focusing more on the chassis and handling, which is very apparent when you drive one. Also, huge props to Hyundai for keeping the enthusiast car segment alive for the common folk!

@motorinc

20 күн бұрын

Hullo NN! How long have you had it?

@NripanNath

20 күн бұрын

@@motorinc Completed 7 months now.

hi, have you shared the intro 🎵, if not please do🙏🏼

@motorinc

21 күн бұрын

Soon!

Which ev scooter should i buy under 1.5 lakh for regular commute...pls answer

@motorinc

19 күн бұрын

Hi Archana! You can use this rule of thumb to decide for yourself. The EV scooter you get should have at least three times your daily commute as its true range (So 90km for a 30km/day commute). This will ensure that you don't have to charge it multiple times a week and gives you enough range if you have a longer commute for some reason on one or two days. At this budget, there are three EVs we'd suggest you to test ride: the Ather 450S, the Ather Rizta, and the TVS iQube. MotorInc currently doesn't recommend Ola products but if you're interested, please test ride that too. Once you do, you should know which one you like best.

Every video of MotorInc are like therapy for motor heads

Awesome content. However the thing you mentioned about the VWs platform caught my attention. Can you please elaborate on that? What’s wrong with the suspension? Thanks!

@motorinc

12 күн бұрын

Hullo! Could we do some self promotion? Check out our View on the Taigun? The suspension isn’t supple enough for our conditions - especially the SUVs. The Virtus/Slavia are better than them.

@tummalapallisaurabh8708

9 күн бұрын

@@motorinc Why not? I love your videos 👍

If the put Shumi's statistics on this short, they are both on opposite side, Shumi is sitting on the right side Kartik be like : Wha ya tryinaa say, what ya trynaa say brothaa Sumi : What I'm asking is ' didn't you joined the revolt'?