What do you all think? Is this legit or a hoax?

@aashishd9453

16 күн бұрын

hoax

@BeckyM87

16 күн бұрын

I'm torn on this one. So much for and against it. Best of luck and I really, really hope it's legit!

@lian3101

16 күн бұрын

Really hoping this is real but I just don't want to believe anything before experts have a look at the pictures.

@marinodejesus8024

16 күн бұрын

Looked legit until that last picture.

@kitchkitch-my7uo

16 күн бұрын

i think he created AI photos

I bet some random dude has a perfect picture of a thylacine that they think is just a wierd dog

@Vizus160

16 күн бұрын

Lol yea

@F4834N

16 күн бұрын

Once its actually found and appears on the news, people gonna start sharing more pics of their weird dogs 😂

@ericcaloosa371

16 күн бұрын

There are people who are probably aware of them but keep it a secret. Shit if it was in my backyard, I would too. Humans are destructive by nature.

@chriscocking3140

16 күн бұрын

It's very hard to believe tbh

@williamcozart8158

16 күн бұрын

@@F4834N People have already painted their dogs to look like thylacine.

Y’all remember like 5 years ago when people would say “pics or it didn’t happen” and now most photos are fake

@igotwect3174

16 күн бұрын

then we needed videos and those can’t be trusted anymore either 😭

@thedude5901

16 күн бұрын

Pics or it didn’t happen is easily 10+ years

@1972dsrai

16 күн бұрын

We’re now in an age where nothing can be taken for granted knowing how easy it is to manipulate images. I would have preferred he’d filmed it, but the images do look legit tbf. He sounds genuine and someone who just wanted to share what he’d captured, but just doesn’t want the attention. I can accept that, he could just be a very private guy.

@ahastar1141

16 күн бұрын

We have phones taking 4k tick tok videos, but most seemingly meaningful photos and videos of big scientific breakthroughs look like they were taken with a potato

@donaldferguson3773

16 күн бұрын

Get of ya bum and take you box brownie down to the park and picture something.​@@ahastar1141

ARCHESUCHUS IS THE GUY TROLLING FORREST

@zacharycraftz2879

13 сағат бұрын

Agreed! kzread.info/head/PLYzSAvVHv-cFJhsge2lYvwmy5gQ5JqJ9F&si=YKjQq-n6K9xdponP

@AdaManny555

11 сағат бұрын

A paleo guy? Now I’m bummed a little bit :/

@acpliego

11 сағат бұрын

Or is it Forrest trolling us? He's the only one making a profit with this

@Timbo6669

4 сағат бұрын

@@acpliegocould be. It’s been two weeks since this guy hasn’t sent through the raw original photos, so at least Forrest should come out and say he screwed up, otherwise people will start to believe what you said. It would lend to his dwindling dignity if he admits something.

The Gaming Beaver cooked.

@zacharycraftz2879

13 сағат бұрын

Agreed! kzread.info/head/PLYzSAvVHv-cFJhsge2lYvwmy5gQ5JqJ9F&si=YKjQq-n6K9xdponP

Can you imagine if they brought a Thylacine into a Vet.😂

@shapeshifter8778

15 күн бұрын

That vet would be NUTS. So many questions

@billiam6071

15 күн бұрын

Yea haha what would the vet even say

@Angelwrites

15 күн бұрын

“Can you chip my dog” 😂

@slipnsldnaway

15 күн бұрын

Or made it their pet lol

@RealBadDaddy

15 күн бұрын

That would have been LEGENDARY!

Dude found an animal extinct for 80 years and doesn’t have an ounce of excitement

@jacobmamiye

16 күн бұрын

That’s the biggest red flag of all

@sdqsdq6274

16 күн бұрын

why not , i mean the animal just look like a dog , nothing crazy , but it does have massive meaning of human conflict with animals

@ukley___

16 күн бұрын

Because he's shitting out his mouth. Idk abt yall but I think this is fake and he's just some goofball trying to get attention

@nahunting

16 күн бұрын

@@ukley___ ya agreed

@VinsUplifting

16 күн бұрын

Some people have known for years they aren't extinct.

TheGamingBeaver got me convinced its fake

@Thegaminggalaxy444

Күн бұрын

Same

@PartyPinda87

Күн бұрын

I just don't understand why Forrest doesnt respond or make a follow up. This ain't good for his reputation/street cred.

@Thegaminggalaxy444

Күн бұрын

@@PartyPinda87 cause he knows it’s fake he just does it for views

@PartyPinda87

19 сағат бұрын

@@Thegaminggalaxy444 yeah apparently. well he got some views but it tarnished his reputation from now on. Not really worth in my opinion haha

The "Thylacine" in the image is a model made by _Archesuchus_ , watch the video that TheGamingBeaver made on this video and you will be suprised to see how fake this is. _Archesuchus_ also took the original images exactly like these that were much better quality than these ones so thats proof that the henry or zach or whatever just edited it in photoshop to make the images look blurry on purpose so it is more believable.

@memesupreme28

2 күн бұрын

If I didn’t see this I would’ve said it, the content train for Forest must be tough 😢

I think he's scared to say that they hit it with the car, which for me explains why it was laying down and they wanting to take it to a vet and "rescue it"except when they got too close it ran away

@Lebum-wl9lt

16 күн бұрын

Trueee

@mistakemcgee2807

16 күн бұрын

ooh interesting theory

@danielleclark-zack864

16 күн бұрын

That could really explain all the awkwardness, interesting thought.

@johnwright2755

16 күн бұрын

Good thought

@nickhughes9566

16 күн бұрын

Great deduction Watson!!

Don't understand why wanting to remain anonymous is an issue. The internet is a fucked up place

@obiwanjabroniX

16 күн бұрын

I mean weird but also can't be judging someone who doesn't want to be on the internet

@johnh5760

16 күн бұрын

Gotta agree with this but at the same time this guy seems really sketchy

@obiwanjabroniX

16 күн бұрын

@@johnh5760 yea can't disagree with that

@mansquatch73

16 күн бұрын

It's his buddy so his face is not important.

@jeremysiron9622

16 күн бұрын

I had the same thought, it can equally be perceived as a red flag if someone wants internet fame for the photos…I’m still watching the video, but that was my initial thought….

As a Tasmanian whose father use to go bushwalking and swore he heard these I don't doubt it. Even that one pic where the nose looks gone, it is actually there, but it's blending in a bit. In the same photo don't stress about how wide the jaw is going, I am fairly certain this animal could dislocate their jaw when they needed to. In these shots it's likely being done as a threat response. My mother also says her and dad saw one run in front of their car in this same area years ago. Dad's been dead since 2012.

@yeahrightgraphics4621

4 күн бұрын

@PathosBedlam I call hoax, but his sketchy bullshit story. The rest of your comment i agree with. Was in ag sales to all NZ and Aussie. Asked a more remote farmer client, he swore by fact hia uncle had nearly run one over late night mid 1990s

@marcopaulo_

4 күн бұрын

Right about the nose, phones can do weird stuff, but the thyla could not dislocate it's jaw, these are fake

@natalieholmes8013

2 күн бұрын

⁠​⁠@@marcopaulo_ it couldn’t dislocate the jaw no, but it can open the jaw very very wide for animals that appear “similar” such as a dog or similarly body shaped animals. There is a video clip of one yawning you should see if not already.

@marcopaulo_

2 күн бұрын

@@natalieholmes8013 yes but the one in these pics has a dislocated jaw

@hishaamoz7741

2 күн бұрын

Go watch Thegamingbeaver's response to this it's pretty much debunked that it's a hoax

This guy lost all credibility when he said he flew direct from LAX to Hobart. The ONLY international flight into Hobart is from New Zealand.

@bigl9478

6 күн бұрын

He didn’t say that. He said he flew out of JFK airport in Chicago. By the way, there is no JFK airport in Chicago.

@macsteve-1648

6 күн бұрын

​@@bigl9478😅

@j187

5 күн бұрын

This flight path doesn’t make sense. He says they drove to Chicago and went thru JFK. Jfk is in New York. Even if they drove to new york they would have to go thru california and then take a plane to Australia. It’s a 12-15 flight from LAX to Sydney Australia alone.

@michaelbennettmb7

3 күн бұрын

Doesn't he say "driving to Darwin international" I'm impressed

@ninjaskeleton6140

3 күн бұрын

The moment he said Darwin airport I knew he was lying. He didn’t seem to know if he departed from New York or Chicago Either way, he would have had to catch at least three different flights to get to Tasmania from there. The idea that you could fly direct from New York or Chicago to Hobart is absurd. The number of people commenting on this video that seem to think it plausible that he somehow just forgot he had to get on and off three different planes during his 16,000km journey from the USA to Hobart is insane cope from people desperate to believe this ridiculous story.

Forrest, I really think this father,son duo hit the Tasmanian Tiger because he said there were no other cars on the road for like a hundred miles. Also, the Tasmanian Tiger would not be laying on it's side in the grass in that position if it had not just been hit. I think the only way he got photos of it at all was because the animal was dazed from being hit because tigers are very elusive You heard him say the total encounter was about 30 seconds. Why would they automatically want to call a vet if they had not hit it. I believe the young man and his dad think they will be criticized for hitting the creature. Also, his personality is not unusual for todays youth. Thank you Forrest for sharing this story.

@BrendanAngadiya

16 күн бұрын

That perosnality is not common for today's youth man, Im sorry 😂

@jessiesalisbury7044

16 күн бұрын

Hi, You need to give this young man the behifit of the doubt. I don't believe it was hit but rather it was eating road kill.

@SJD326

16 күн бұрын

@@BrendanAngadiyait actually is. People under 21 are literally more stupid then the last couple generations bc they are raised on screens

@Predatorfishaddict

16 күн бұрын

@@jessiesalisbury7044what on the floor lying down

@theajpeezy13

16 күн бұрын

Well said

the theory that they accidentally hit the animal with the car is interesting. explains why he's so restrained and akward about it

@keithdeal209

14 күн бұрын

I don’t think he said they hit it.

@ThePointlessBox_

14 күн бұрын

@@keithdeal209 im saying he doesnt want to admit he hit it, thats why hes so reserved and awkward about it. It would explain why the animal let them get so close, and it would explain him saying they thought about calling a vet

@JJ-zr6fu

14 күн бұрын

Yeah I’m not buying they randomly saw something in the grass at night and stopped everything to look at it

@z-zone1786

14 күн бұрын

Imagine if you hit the meybe last one of a so caled extinct animal. The hate would be way to much

@barbarusbloodshed6347

13 күн бұрын

That would be one explanation for his behaviour. But I think more likely is that it's a hoax, the pics seem AI-generated. If you look at them there are lots of similarities with pics of Thylacines you find when you use Google. That's how that works, the AI takes the information from the available pictures and smashes them together to create new pics. So not only would it use the actual old photos of Thylacines, it would also use the illustrations and kids drawings you find in a Google search as a basis. And that's how you end up with weird anatomy and jaws that don't seem to work right.

I am Tasmanian and have spent 50 years in the bush.I call BS. You cannot confuse Darwin with Hobart to start with. He could not have forgotten this basic fact.

@YKXZ69

6 күн бұрын

this dude in the interview guna get so much hate for his personal vendetta against forrest lol its a wrap fake stuffed toy dudes bouta get all kinds of dox and hate, rip pray for the guy

@lucabernardini3975

5 күн бұрын

Looked like a dog to me

@AreUmygrandson

5 күн бұрын

You could be correct. But to be fair he isn’t from Tasmania and was on his way to the airport in an area he had never been in according to his story. But it is super suspicious.

@robb8331

5 күн бұрын

sounds like a yank

@dkr578

5 күн бұрын

@@AreUmygrandson Confusing Darwin with Hobart (4500km north) is like stating I landed in Texas but I actually landed in Washington state. Darwin is tropical yet Hobart cold temperate. IA at work I believe. Is the Tassie Tiger still alive, possibly but this is not proof, not by a long shot.

The fact that Henry's profile picture is Archesuchus's dog, and Archesuchus also created a poseable thylacine doll is proving it is a hoax

Get him to send you a screenshot of the photos in his camera roll, so you know they’ve been taken on that phone

@Col.Roy_Mustang

13 күн бұрын

"Photo details: Screenshotted on:this date."

@ignore2466

13 күн бұрын

Sorry, but that is ridiculously easy to fake and would prove nothing

@jn1540

13 күн бұрын

This is fake. The guys explanation of the situation and why he was taking photos doesn't make sense. Seems like he's phoning in his explanations. I don't believe this is legit.

@Col.Roy_Mustang

13 күн бұрын

@@ignore2466 Than how is it proven? Just assuming this was legit. I agree it isn't real.

@harlyquin

13 күн бұрын

@@jn1540 ive met people like this, he seems to just be socially awkward, the think that tells me its fake is there is no direct flight from America to Tasmania, he even went into detail about how his dad only took the direct flight because he dosent like layovers , so yeah fake

Only his dad could help legitimise the story in an independent interview

@leez3091

16 күн бұрын

We need him to know this or see this

@matthewdEntremont

15 күн бұрын

"His dad" is too disappointed in his son

@chris47374

15 күн бұрын

Check the flight plan that will end all of this is real of fake

@Pink7omy

15 күн бұрын

Not really.

@davida.4933

15 күн бұрын

Not going to happen and then you'll know it's a big joke.

The guy is lying his guts out.

The shape of the thylacine with his stripes, rod-like tail, shape of his face and how it’s slightly different from a dog, his coloring despite the crappy phone camera, the eye shine, and then the mouth opening. That was done as an act of aggression I believe I read years ago and other pics of them doing it before extinction show them doing it often. I think it’s legit.

@meadowswta8657

3 күн бұрын

ripped into all the images with every editing tool i have and i cant find any glitches, spent just as much time investigating random dark areas as i did the animal and the poor quality stays consistent even down to blades of grass an other random ground obstructions, the time it would have taken to fake such poor photos would send ya mad. unless they used a real dog of adequate form with some kinda disability an defective brain they dressed up, only way i could image such real images.

The question everyone is thinking Forrest is "did he send the originals? and did the dates match?" Pls give an update

@hungryforlunch

16 күн бұрын

10:23

@MediumDSpeaks

16 күн бұрын

​@hungryforlunch no thats the first mention of it but at the end of the interview Zack agrees to send him the original photos not the copies

@ThunderMonkey28

16 күн бұрын

Right, there should be geo location on iPhone photos.

@arthurfascina

16 күн бұрын

You can modify the metadata

@donaldferguson3773

16 күн бұрын

Who died and made this fellow an instant expert.where is all his pics .

As a Tasmanian, theres one major inconsistency ive noticed. The grass is way too green for the area the photo was taken. For the past few months it hasnt been raining much, so the grass is quite yellow/gold at the moment. The area I'm in is the "tropics" of tassie and its still fairly yellow at the moment. Ita mainly yellow/gold from the northwest to far below hobart. The entire southern midlands is yellow. Thats the main issue ive noticed.

@wewantmoreboomboom8313

16 күн бұрын

​@@whitefeather731it was start of fall

@craigslater8227

16 күн бұрын

And going back to Darwin to fly home? 😂

@rkshn

16 күн бұрын

modern phones tend to over saturate images in night time photography, that could be the case here.

@cryoking7303

16 күн бұрын

Whitefeather, it's "fall" down here ATM, known as Autumn in Aus at least. So it's gonna be yellow grass, cold, windy and horror. Craig, yeah nah the Darwin thing was a massive oversight on his part. Just to get anywhere else from Taz, you need to stop off on the mainland at least once (from memory).

@reklezzz9038

16 күн бұрын

​@@whitefeather731different seasons in different parts of the world. Some people have Christmas in summer.

They are also native to Papua New Guinea. I saw one in a remote village in 1975. It was less than 10 feet from me. I never told a soul because I didn’t think anyone would believe me.I only recently found out that they were native to PNG

The most convincing photo is actually the one of its arse as it's walking along the fence, because people who fake a thylacine, or mistake a dog for one, usually don't get the fact that they had no appreciable buttocks and their back end segued smoothly into the base of the thick tail. If this is a fake it's an extremely good one.

Born and raised in the state of Tasmania. A lot of things this dude says/things that he is leaving out make me think he has never stepped foot on our island, let alone seen a Thylacine.

@bethanyhunt2704

15 күн бұрын

What things?

@GermanGayDude

15 күн бұрын

Exactly

@matthewgordon9341

15 күн бұрын

Yea care to enlighten us foreigners?

@jaded.PHANTOM

15 күн бұрын

​@@matthewgordon9341no direct flights to Tasmania from USA for a start.

@thomaspike8630

15 күн бұрын

And drive to Darwin from tassie???

As an ecologist, wildlife surveyor and someone who has spent a lot of time in Tassie I would say put the original photos on a google drive so people can see the metadata (although that can be manipulated). There are no direct international flights from the USA to Tassie. Anyone who goes to Tassie is confronted with images of Thylacines EVERYWHERE- it's the government logo, it's on beer bottles, it's used in advertising widely. The journey from Hobart to Stowport would take many hours, especially at night when there are animals all over the roads, including wombats which you DON'T want to hit, it's literally not safe to drive over 80km/h at night in Tasmania. There are bucketloads of camera traps deployed all over the place in Tassie for wildlife monitoring, Thylacine fanatics and farm security and NONE of these have picked up convincing images of Thylacines. I think it's likely that Thylacines persisted in Tassie until the 1970s, (after speaking to people in aged care who had seen them) but they were a creature of the open woodlands, not the dense forests. No road kill, none shot, none on quality camera traps. I call this a hoax, sadly.

@dylanmccallister1888

14 күн бұрын

AI generated image probably or altered

@fansspad2594

14 күн бұрын

Agreed

@EdmundSampson-pd7vi

14 күн бұрын

I tend to agree sadly. In a time where areas are more heavily populated and everybody has a camera....

@Dabber422

14 күн бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. No way there is a direct international flight from USA to Tassie..,

@user-vn8vn7rk3j

14 күн бұрын

He was on the mainland you clownfish. Northern Territory.

The amount of gullible people who don't do research on this and just take it as a fact is just wild 💀

@warcryme4176

4 күн бұрын

Yah I’m having to go around educating these idiots. lol.

Surprised I didn't search for a channel of yours. One of my fav Joe guests ✌🏻👍🏼. Subbed immediately 👍🏼✌🏻

You should send this to Corridor Crew to look for any sort of VFX/photoshop technique

@kylejensen7024

16 күн бұрын

💯

@blastfiend7478

16 күн бұрын

I’d love to see the collab episode

@sptmoss9723

16 күн бұрын

Yes, they do such good work debunking photoshopped and edited images of “real” aliens/cryptids.

@unit4735

16 күн бұрын

No this is a really good idea. Even pulling the camera data would really help.

@ElectroOverlord

16 күн бұрын

There are professional places that do authenticity. Linked in my comments somewhere around here.. Love the Corridor Crew but they don't offer letters of Authenticity. Going to want to go to the big boys on this and not KZreadrs.

I disagree that a desire to stay anonymous is a red flag. If anything, wanting to be known for it (wanting the fame) would be a red flag.

@nethiuz9165

16 күн бұрын

This is very true.

@kindallnight1615

16 күн бұрын

True but he didn’t even want to show his face to him without the public thing

@Valkyrie_71

16 күн бұрын

i agree

@isaiasherrero7889

16 күн бұрын

Agreed!

@NeverEnoughPyro40

14 күн бұрын

@kindallnight1615 What reason does he have to trust that Forest won’t expose who he is if he starts getting pressured, What if someone offered forest $1 million for this kids identity! There are plenty of reasons not to show his face to anyone!

As a Australian hearing an American visiting Tasmania is a red flag

A kid from Chicago calls a flashlight a torch?!

Tasmanian here, live 45mins away from that area. It actually looks legit to me. ive seen all sorts of animals on those roads at night, not a Tassy tiger yet, but i'll check the area and keep an eye out.

@brendonchalmers4142

13 күн бұрын

He said there was blood im pretty sure , possibly if it was hit by a vehicle there may be some remnants there. It may have been eating roadkill tho...

@toaster3822

13 күн бұрын

His story doesn't even add up. First he says it was half way on the road, then he says it was 15 feet away in the grass.

@Draco09909

13 күн бұрын

@@toaster3822it could have moved since when they pulled to the other side of the road

@anopoabednego6173

13 күн бұрын

​@@toaster3822 He said it was halfway into the road before they stopped, genius.

@kaiwatson18

13 күн бұрын

The area isn’t heavily farmed and not fully cleared but I don’t think theirs anyway people would miss it because it’s still property land. I think they might be somewhere along the Lyell highway. I’ve heard reports.

If I was a betting man I'd say fake, but I so want it to be real

@charlockprime

16 күн бұрын

Same here, unfortunately.

@AdamStarr816

16 күн бұрын

It's A.I. would be so easy to type in picture of it in the dark on cell phone camera.

@silentassasin7989

16 күн бұрын

@@AdamStarr816nah ai usually get small bits of information wrong you’ll see some deformation and inconsistency

@patrickleahy7854

16 күн бұрын

@@AdamStarr816I thought so at first too, but the truth is AI is awful at generating thylacine photos. I mean truly abysmal. They put the stripes everywhere… around the head, by the eyes, on the legs, etc. it almost always happens. Or they get the face totally wrong. These photos, for all their faults, get the features borderline flawlessly. If I were to bet on how they were faked (if they were faked) I’d say either digital art or actual painting. I could see a very talented artist making these and saying they’re grainy iPhone photos.

@Unifiedlight

16 күн бұрын

@@silentassasin7989the pictures did have small things wrong with it though

I believe him. I was born in Tasmania. My dad told me a story growing up, in the 50's he was driving back to the west coast in his truck & swears he came across a tassie tiger, he said it stopped in the middle of road, opened its mouth wide, then went back into the bush..

@xBloodxFangx

2 күн бұрын

The photos were proven to be hoaxes. You still believe him?

Lmao this dude can't even remember what airports he went to a few weeks ago 😂 This is jacked.

Not wanting to show his face is understandable in todays day and age .

@gorillasinthecoupe8124

13 күн бұрын

True. Then he probably should not have said anything to begin with. "I found a ground breaking discovery but you'll never know who I am or if I'm telling the truth" is pretty much what he did.... which is useless and doesn't solve anything.... "but not showing your face is understandable" so is stfu when you have nothing of importance to say or proof to back you.

@radioraffa

13 күн бұрын

Because people who know him will come out and tell on him being a BS artist

@SimpleJack95

13 күн бұрын

Dude is in the witness protection program 😂😂

@ivyrose779

13 күн бұрын

I agree. I would be very reluctant to release my real name or face. I’ve seen too much on the internet.

@JungleMan777

12 күн бұрын

BS. This day and age people salivate at the mouth for 5 minutes of internet clout. Doing all sorts of dumb stuff.

I have theory, maybe they accidentally hit it with their car and the kid is scared he’s gonna get in trouble

@zacharykai6317

16 күн бұрын

Yeah definetly could be a possibility.

@garethcrothers7989

16 күн бұрын

yes that is a good point

@MasonsRainforest

16 күн бұрын

Or possibly afraid of getting hate on the internet for hitting an "extinct" species

@russellcampbell3500

16 күн бұрын

I thought the same thing

@martinzilli9768

15 күн бұрын

Yeah why would someone stop in the middle of nowhere to look at a stray dog? this theory makes sense.

Direct flight from New York to Hobart… yeah, right pal

@magesentron

3 күн бұрын

Also, "JFK or whatever" in Chicago? I don't know. The pictures are somewhat compelling but i have to question why he didn't take video with his phone and i have to question why the photos were such poor quality in this day of stupid-high resolutions of cameras in phones. I think it's entirely possible that this guy either made a 3D model of the animal, took some pics with a grass background, or made a little model of the animal and took some photos. Blurry photos in 2024 and easily fake-able photo software with AI assistance literally everywhere nowadays, he'd have to show some better "proof" than this to get me to believe it.

I have just watched your video. A big red flag to me is the way Zack described his travel arrangements. I live in Melbourne, so I have a pretty good knowledge of Australian geography. First he said he flew into Darwin, which is thousands of miles from Tasmania, the other end of Australia. He only said Hobart after you prompted him. Then he said he flew direct from New York. There are no scheduled commercial flights from New York to Hobart. It is simply too far. To my knowledge there are no scheduled international flights into Hobart from anywhere except perhaps from New Zealand. Tasmanians travelling internationally would take a domestic flight to Melbourne, then an international flight from here. The only realistic way to fly from New York to Tasmania would involve a stopover on the west coast of USA, normally Los Angeles, then the international flight would terminate in either Sydney or Melbourne and you would have to catch a domestic flight to Tasmania. If you wanted to get to Stowport, which is in the north of Tasmania, you would most likely take a domestic flight from Melbourne to Burnie on the north coast, not Hobart in the south. It is more than a couple of hours travel by road from Hobart to the north coast, more like about 4 hours.

There are for sure things that sound suspicious, but I will say, if I had captured footage of something that would make me famous, being an intensely private person, I would also be in disguise any time I went on camera.

@Hamsamich271

16 күн бұрын

Same. I haven’t finished the video, however I work in an extremely professional environment and I wouldn’t want the entire internet to peg me as the crazy boy who cried thylacine. I also wouldn’t want my clients asking about it. Just a thought.

@BBcaskin

16 күн бұрын

The internet is a cruel and merciless place and this is the kind of information that could make someone globally famous. I wouldn't blame anyone for wanting to stay anonymous during all this.

@SurfingTheSoundwaves

16 күн бұрын

@@BBcaskin You conveyed what I was trying to say much more succinctly. Thank you.

@persephonemaeve2704

16 күн бұрын

Same. I probably would’ve kept the whole thing to myself. I don’t want a thylacine captured.

@jarrettwalters6632

15 күн бұрын

Agreed

I love the theory that they accidentally hit it with their car bc can you fucking imagine You just encountered one of the most sought-after animals, a member of a species long believed to be extinct, and you've just accidentally obliterated it with a speeding honda civic

@x.y.7385

11 күн бұрын

But if there is one, there is more.

@CollieMonster

11 күн бұрын

The black-footed ferret was re-discovered because a farmer’s dog brought a dead one home. If there’s one, there’s more.

@J-_-

11 күн бұрын

Happened in Harry and the Hendersons.

@pdloder

11 күн бұрын

I never thought of that - good point.

@AlphaMachina

11 күн бұрын

@@J-_- I loved that movie as a kid.

Thr lighting on that last picture is the one that got me. The angle of the lighting on the background seems more like a portrait but there is one or 2 that looks really good.

First impression is if he wants to remain anonymous about an amazing discovery is he’s lying

@jakefitzgerald3114

2 күн бұрын

On top of that it seems like he’s more worried about his identity than the actual story

I live in Tassie, have done for nearly 30 years, I know the area he says he was at when he claims this happened from my trail bike riding days, and have adequate knowledge of the native flora and fauna from studies and previous employnent. Aside from the original photo metadata, I'm 99% convinced. I believe the Thylacine is still alive, that their species are recovering in isolated regions of Tasmania and that as the next few decades pass, we'll start to see more quick snaps of them as they start to spread to new territories and re-establish their species as the apex predators of our ecosystem. This gives me a glimmer of hope for Tasmanian Wildlife to return to a natural balance 💚

@DarthFetid

13 күн бұрын

me too. but where are the others i worry about the inbred nature of the animal.

@touya_todoroki974

13 күн бұрын

Same many places in the us also have had similar with wolfs where they recovered population elsewhere and then slowly reintroduced back into more normal ranges! There's now wolfs in Oregon much the same way! Due to the fact that they were known to not reproduce super well and also be illusive I think they found another niche far elsewhere and have just been vibing in fear of humans fleeing at first scent, sight, or sound of them. Bet you if you stayed in remote wilderness for a few years you might see em, I even once saw a convincing video of a thycaline like animal running upon sight of people! It was gone quickly too...

@touya_todoroki974

13 күн бұрын

​@@DarthFetidto be fair we did give them the cheetah treatment and part of inbreeding in the wild we have found particularly in Cheetahs made them HIGHLY fearful nervy and illusive...can't imagine how much worse that would be on an already illusive or fearful natured animal....

@sandrahealey6385

13 күн бұрын

Tasmanian farmers and tree plantation managers use 1080 to control the wallaby population. Carcasses are meant to be retrieved after the baiting, but this is mission impossible in most situations. Tasmanian Devils are dying of cancerous facial tumours, they're the largest consumers of carrion left in the state. Any tigers possibly left, would have to be in the deepest forest, where no man goes. Very little of that left here. Especially near Burnie!

@iamrocketray

13 күн бұрын

@@DarthFetid The Human species got down to approx.40 individuals and look at us now! Yes inbreeding problems do occur sometimes but its not a big problem even considering the billions of us.

what's most suspicious to me is that he "chose to take pictures" of an animal he "thought was injured" under the assumption it was a dog and not knowing it's an extinct species Edit: I want this to be real

@nickwhite2569

9 күн бұрын

He actually said that he took the pictures because they saw that it was clearly a very strange looking animal.

@charlyyyyyyyyyy

9 күн бұрын

he said that he thought it was not a dog 20:16

@reeceward8681

8 күн бұрын

he's showing signs of autism i have a friend who has it and he takes pictures of everything no joke so kind of adds up

@oijosh6286

8 күн бұрын

Sorry to burst your bubble, but google "Archesuchus thylacine"- he's an artist, makes incredible lifelike models & put out photos of a thylacine he'd made the day before these photos appeared.

@Kimmaline

8 күн бұрын

​@@reeceward8681I've said this on multiple threads. I think every single "weird" thing comes down to being non-neurotypical. As a neurospicy lass myself, I recognize my kin.

Did you get the original pics from his personal phone.....??? Great interview digging without making it uncomfortable 👌

Hey Im Australian, as other comments mention it is very strange to confuse Darwin with Tasmania. Darwin is a very small city, very out of the way, its not really mentioned a lot. Darwin is the capital of the Northern Territory which is not even an official state and most of its area is unliveable by humans. It really does sound like he just googled an australian airport. Also weird he briefly said he drove to Chicago airport which is 5 hours from Minneapolis correct? Very Strange to not elaborate on that and then got on a direct flight to Hobart from Chicago which is impossible. Also if I travel to another state let alone a whole other country, and it was a month ago and stay a few days, I know the town name. I can remember the town name of the Airport I went to in Fiji 10ish years ago.

The way he says numerous times “that was after he meowed at us”, it makes me think it’s real. He says it every time so matter of factly. And to call the noise a meow so casually over and over it just really seems to me he truly is recalling an event that happened

@user-yb5we6uc4z

14 күн бұрын

Right? The fact he explains it sounding more similar to a cat then any sort of canid gets me. The imitation he did really did sound similar to the hoarse coughy “bark” that people who heard them in life described them

@paolo7486

14 күн бұрын

i totally agree! using the term meow for a dog-like creature is so specific

@enderdefender7406

14 күн бұрын

@@paolo7486 It isn't dog-like but a Marsupial

@SpencerDonahue

14 күн бұрын

that is quite the low bar you've set for credibility. these are just AI images.

@mannyc.3654

14 күн бұрын

I think assuming it's a dog, but, hearing that meow/whine stuck Into his mind and it something he will never forget. It's real.

Are people forgetting that this dude wasn’t the one who even had interest and sent it in it was his friend he said he’s not into wildlife like that so why would a normal person who doesn’t care about extinct animals like that care or be overly exited about it. If he was looking for fame or money then that would be more of a red flag than being anonymous

The photo you found on social media gave it away for me personally. I think we are being pranked Forest.

I wonder how many times over the last eight days Zac and Henry have chuckled and said to each other 'I can't believe he bought it'

Hearing this dude tell this story sounds like a 3 year old explaining that they just saw a unicorn

@scottcelere9140

16 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@Stef2050

16 күн бұрын

To be fair spotting an extinct animal is basically the same thing

@Fede18402

16 күн бұрын

90% of students presenting in HS and even uni sound like this

@samuraijackoff5354

16 күн бұрын

Probably autistic

@JustDoinIt26

16 күн бұрын

N it shat rainbows 🌈 🦄

I need more extinct or alive episodes ...actually I need any new forest shows

@dilophoraptordouble

16 күн бұрын

I need more extinct or alive that isn't a guy using existing research and eyewitness accounts from native peoples and using their coat tails for his own material benefit

@willfungusman8666

16 күн бұрын

Why

@BajatheChickenMan

16 күн бұрын

Soon has he has the cash he should just buy the naming rights and run it from his youtube channel. I bet it would be hella popular.

@chris90sk

16 күн бұрын

​@@willfungusman8666when?

@christhe2dprotogen511

16 күн бұрын

@@chris90skwhere?

Im sorry but ARCHESUCHUS is trolling you real hard.

Any updates Forrest, lots of people on the edge of their seats

The kid seems like he may be on the autism spectrum. He acts like my oldest boy who is 19 and has autism. He can tell you what he did and what he saw but as far as names of places he doesn’t retain that information very well.

@seiretzym

16 күн бұрын

I noticed this as well, as an autistic adult

@MrCashewkitty

16 күн бұрын

He's definitely a bit off. Hope it's not a hoax

@lordsauron2879

16 күн бұрын

100%

@Pfenix23

16 күн бұрын

I also agree that he sounded like he was on the spectrum. Especially when you consider his interest in specific things like turtles, and the way he used certain words to describe things. Autistic people may latch onto a certain term like torch in place of a flashlight which a lot of people here seem to have an issue with him using.

@CookiesDC

16 күн бұрын

I’m also autistic and totally agree

I’m 50/50 to be honest. Some pictures looked spot on and in edited and others looks photo shopped. I pray it’s real and we revive this species from “extinction”

@putnamehereholdmadoodle

14 күн бұрын

Its so fake its real elong musky

@bjrnjohanhumblen525

14 күн бұрын

But don't release the revived until we know if the genes are mixed with tasmanian devil.

@smmfdftbh

14 күн бұрын

There's a company that had been planning to bring back the Thylacine and the Whooly Mammoth, very soon

@sabineb.5616

14 күн бұрын

You can be very sure that it's not real. Everybody and their grandmothers wants that the thylacine is still around somewhere. But this guy just wanted to have some fun and see if someone can be bamboozled successfully by his pictures. But he doesn't want to deal with the negative backlash of being called a hoaxer. It's not really that complicated. The fact that his pictures were made two days after he had contacted Forrest is a dead giveaway. The idea that he might've sent screenshots, is silly. He could still have sent Forrest the original pictures. It seems that the guy didn't even carefully plan his hoax. That's why he couldn't tell exactly which flights he took. Forrest should have kept this under wraps for a bit longer.

@smmfdftbh

14 күн бұрын

@sabineb.5616 oh wow, you figured it all out, didn't you? Lol people who think they know everything crack me up. Glad we found the expert on this situation in the comments

The face shot looks pretty good, but the last two look like artwork.

20:36 " Kinda like a meeehhhh" 😂 I wasn't expecting that. I'm not saying he's wrong, just caught me off guard!

There's one dude on that zoom call that's going to make money from this, regardless of the outcome...and its not Zack lol

@ATx5853

15 күн бұрын

Poor Zack

@PatchMcHarg

15 күн бұрын

12:01 “This would be just soo sad if people are this desperate for attention”

Not surprised that he want to be anonymous considering how much hate he is already getting, when he hasn’t even been disproved

@MegaDRjohn

12 күн бұрын

his flight details and driving time are disproven

@Andrew-fy9wu

11 күн бұрын

Because anyone with a brain knows that it is not real. They were thought to be extinct 100 years ago. For one to be found now, there would have been hundreds or thousands alive 100 years ago. Only fools believe.

@SnorgYippee

11 күн бұрын

ITS ALREADY BEEN DISPROVEN. ARE YOU ACTUALLY THAT GULLIBLE?😂😂😂

@JD-i22

11 күн бұрын

Could have took video easy but takes crappy pics.

@jordansinclair281

8 күн бұрын

It has been disproved

Wow, I've been interested in the sightings of the Tasmanian Tiger for so long. Truly amazing 👏 thanks for sharing.

are you going to do an update talking about TheGamingBeavers Debunking of all this? Arch's avoidentness to him reminds me a lot of his avoidance to you

THERE ARE NO NON-STOP FLIGHTS FROM ANYWHERE IN THE USA TO HOBART!! As an aussie who flies back and forth regularly, everyone knows you have to fly into Melbourne or Sydney first before flying onto Tasmania.

@chriswhybz790

15 күн бұрын

100%. On top of that the only international flights in or out of Hobart are to New Zealand. Hobart Airport is also not somewhere you could sleep the night given it closes at 10:30pm....

@28russ

15 күн бұрын

Yeah, I just commented that and that I can't see Darwin being involved anywhere in that.

@ChromaKeyMystress

15 күн бұрын

You're wrong. You may want to look at more than one travel website to try to prove your point. I just found a direct flight, no layovers, from JFK to Hobart on Air New Zealand for 10K$. Also found one on Qantas for 14K$. Both trips will take 22 and 26 hours respectively.

@Theaussiezulu

15 күн бұрын

​@@ChromaKeyMystress I am honestly not trying to put you down - I just don't want this misinformation to spread!! Firstly, Platinum Qantas member here with priority booking - just checked with customer service and there are NO DIRECT FLIGHTS from JFK to Hobart. I don't know why I even bothered because being Australian and a frequent flyer, the thought of a commercial flight directly from the east coast of USA to Hobart is just about the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard. I'm assuming you are not Aussie. Any well travelled Aussie would scoff at the thought, especially if you knew what Hobart's airport is like. Secondly and the funniest part is - do you honestly think there are commercial airlines offering 26 hour flights 😂😂😂😂😂😂 let alone 22 hour flights 😂😂😂😂 you obviously haven't done many long hauls. 😂😂😂 The longest commercial passenger flight in history is around 18 hours from New York to Singapore. And that flight is business/first class only. The longest non-stop flight that Qantas offers is Melbourne to Dallas, which is around 17 hours!!!! I love the "check other websites first" comment. I don't need to - I've checked with the concierge for private member's. There are NO FLIGHTS from JFK to HBT direct.

@magicgenius

15 күн бұрын

Everyone obsessed over this First if this is the only hole in the story what about the photos. Second. He only mention it wasnt a layover in like england or something not necessarily that he didnt fly into Australia and then connect to Tasmania. The conversation was casual and he wasnt coming off like he was being deceptive

Hi! Tasmanian here. Stowport is a small rural community. A yank married to a local running a sheep farm would stand out like dogs nuts. The long time locals would now exactly who they are. Asking a few locals might be a good place to start to verify some of this story?

@mj.l

13 күн бұрын

lol i love how he claims they flew back the the US from darwin. dude's never left north america.

@silentsven1

13 күн бұрын

​@@mj.lnot only that, a cursory Google search shows that Hobart airports only international flights go to New Zealand.

@supatony

12 күн бұрын

The credibility would be to prove his family property. And prove he had tickets to and from Australia. The Darwin Airport part threw me.

@mothturtle7897

12 күн бұрын

​@mj.l you'd think a hoaxer would look up flights to Tasmania but maybe he never expected a question like that I can't think of any reasonable explanation why a genuine person wouldn't roughly remember their flight path from a trip that happened only a month ago, even if they don't recall the airport names, you'd certainly remember a layover. So yeah... I'd love this to be real but seems very unlikely.

@jpw5029

12 күн бұрын

@@mothturtle7897I think this is a hoax and not a good one. But In general I’d be forgiving to not remembering flight paths. I did an international trip earlier this year and hearing this I tried to remember my flights, stop overs etc. bit harder than I thought.

Well appreciated brother, BUT I have a suggestion. Pull up every last recorded video or archival photo of the thylacine and compare them with those photos you just got, ideally frame by frame where the animal is facing in the direction as it appears in those photos shared by Zack to see if there is a match. If those photos are fake, there should be a match. There are so many folks searching for a thylacine that Zack would have been the first to hit the media with those photos. I kinda feel, those photos are extracted and re-rendered from the last surviving videos of the thylacine filmed while kept in some chain-link enclosure, if I remember.

Looks like an digital artist work lol

@Divorceof

Күн бұрын

It is A Digital art😂 Its 2024 Broo Dont Trust Everything,We Can Make Everything possible in Internet

In 1983, the American media mogul Ted Turner offered a $100,000 reward for proof of the continued existence of the thylacine. In March 2005, Australian news magazine The Bulletin, as part of its 125th anniversary celebrations, offered a $1.25 million reward for the safe capture of a live thylacine. When the offer closed at the end of June 2005, no one had produced any evidence of the animal's existence. An offer of $1.75 million has subsequently been offered by a Tasmanian tour operator, Stewart Malcolm.

Hey, local Tasmanian here, I am gonna analyse what he says. Okay, sorry its not adding up, there are no direct flights into Hobart from the u.s. Hobart is not an international airport anymore, and the only international flights it used to do where to NZ. He wouldve needed a connecting flight from melbourne or sydney. There are NO direct fligts from the u.s. to Tasmania, that is not something that exists. Upper stowport is in the burnie area in tasmania that is around 3 to 4 hours from hobart, so the 2 hour drive is unlikely However - The Road he is talking of, is very close to the Emu River reserve, which, would be a good habitat for the thylacine, so it defiantly isn't far fetched.

@joshuajamieson5891

14 күн бұрын

Upper stowport is definantly not an unrealistic location tho. It's remote enough but. Also very very strange for it to be sitting on the side of the road. What time of night woukd be useful to know, and also, they are predators, not scavengers. Yes they may have been pushed to scavenge rather then hunt but. I don't beleive a "healthy" thylacine would just sit on the side of the road. Let alone on the road.

@joshuajamieson5891

14 күн бұрын

I continue to research the validity, io have been looking through google maps of the area, and so far i have only found 1 place that could be the place he is talking about, with enough trees and grass there the photos to be realistic, but if i am honest... he would not need to zoom that much. Different possible Coordinates are: -41.137017162811674, 145.91555962854306 -41.07774435106956, 145.93634742777004 (This is a stretch as it is very close to Wivenhoe and Burnie, a bit to loud for an illusive animal) - I will be updating these posts if i find further info.

@robday2859

14 күн бұрын

He did say Darwin airport, so it would be pretty easy to check connecting flights etc.

@joshuajamieson5891

14 күн бұрын

@robday2859 Darwin airport has no direct flights to Tasmania, you would need to stop in Sydney, or Melbourne, and then get a flight to Hobart. The fact he said he flew into Darwin is strange enough as it is like the furthest location in Australia besides Perth from Tasmania. And he said that they had NO CONNECTING FLIGHTS AT ALL. Which doesn't work. He later said that he actually flew direct into Hobart from the u.s., which again isn't possible

@katerinaweathers3286

14 күн бұрын

@@joshuajamieson5891 The pictures were most likely AI generated it’s possible, though that an artist painted them but that is very unlikely. And the fact that his story doesn’t add up as well is another big red flag. Safe to say that this is probably a false case. Hopefully real evidence that the Tasmanian tigers still exist does come up because I would hate for the animal to really be extinct… Also just wanted to say that it would most likely be digital art not traditional if they weren’t AI generated, which you can is the most likely to be…

“I thought it was a dog and I always take multiple photographs of every dog I encounter in the world” Come on man this is a blatant forgery

@MrLanternland

8 күн бұрын

Ha ha!

@MahiMahi4757-zr9zf

7 күн бұрын

Was thinking the same.

I am a dog handler from Russia and I was interested in this topic. I read the opinion of biologists about the photographs, someone said that an individual of this species cannot be so massive and it made me laugh, to be honest. There is such an effect in genetics called the bottleneck effect. if Tasmanian tigers survived we have no idea what they look like now because there was severe inbreeding between them >The “bottleneck” effect is a reduction in the gene pool (that is, genetic diversity) of a population due to the passage of a period during which, for various reasons, a critical decrease in its number occurs, which is subsequently restored. A reduction in genetic diversity leads to changes in the relative and absolute frequencies of gene alleles, so this effect is considered among the factors of evolution.

It looks legit. The kid not knowing airports sounds like someone who doesn't travel much. He doesn't want to face the harassment and ridicule of the trolls.

@Erizedd

12 күн бұрын

Or doesn't pay much attention, and potentially didn't want to go on the holiday so he's not engaged in the experience - in one ear and out the other. It's not that unusual for such a case, and if you add in that he's a teen, potentially has some sort of anxiety issue, and his dad probably took care of the holiday plans... again, not so unusual.

@sunnyomgsocool

12 күн бұрын

its fake

@ninjaskeleton6140

12 күн бұрын

He’s lying through his teeth. Nothing about this story makes any sense. For instance, you cannot fly directly from JFK airport to any location in Australia, let alone sleepy little Tasmania. Are you telling me he honestly can’t remember how he flew to Australia? Completely ridiculous. His story is obviously completely fabricated.

@bernardedwards8461

12 күн бұрын

He didn't seem to know that no US airline has a direct flight to Tasmania. The chances of thylacines still being alive after 90 years with no road kills or remains of any sort being found are vanishingly small, a million to one against.

@kevinlord6325

11 күн бұрын

​@@ErizeddQantas Airlines have direct flights...

sucks because it’s clear the guy has social anxiety, however he doesn’t want to admit it. it’s pretty common amongst people with social anxiety having trouble with admission, and another thing that pointed out to me was that he asked how long they have to talk for. great video.

@jrgonzalez3845

14 күн бұрын

Yeah, a lot of people don't want to be famous and don't like attention, I don't agree with him considering that some sort of red flag. The kid just seems shy and kind of introverted.

@ElysetheEevee

14 күн бұрын

​@@jrgonzalez3845 I honestly don't agree or even like a lot of what Forrest said in this video. I personally don't think him lying or it being the truth is more likely than the other. I think it could be either. However, some of the comments Forrest made about the guy made me feel bad for him. Like, whether he's lying or not, he's still taking the time to talk to you. Most fakes use their fifteen minutes of fame to make money and chase clout. The fact that he's already painting him as a liar but then skeptical that he doesn't want to go public is weird to me. This whole video is just weird, as far as how he treats Zack.

@wingedhussar1453

14 күн бұрын

Bro if he sonr qant ti talk hw doesnt have to aayinf he ia aoculy akward like u knoq him pwrosnaly is talking shit

@BoshiYoshi

14 күн бұрын

@@ElysetheEevee As someone with bad social anxiety I agree with the sentiment that this guy may very well suffer from it. The whole thing could be a hoax that he's perpetrating himself or that he got roped into by a friend, but either way, I can definitely see social-anxiety-related explanations for a lot of the things that feel off. Like if I were in this guy's shoes, I would not want to be on camera either. I also thought it was very rude of Forrest to refer to the guy as weird and call him a dorky kid. Like if it comes out that he hoaxed the whole thing, fine, call him whatever you want. But if he didn't, he was nice enough to come on your show despite clearly having anxiety and give you tons of youtube views which equate to more ad revenue, so feels wrong to cut him down like that when he hasn't proven to be a hoaxer or liar yet. Even without having social anxiety, having a big youtuber who's a stranger to you call you weird and dorky in front of a massive online audience would feel absolutely awful.

@specificocean9490

13 күн бұрын

@@wingedhussar1453 when you wake up tomorrow probably dont drink that much again

we need to see the phone and see if they were really taken with that camera

The angles don't match. He would have to have been standing over it, taking pictures of it laying on the ground in some of those to get that angle, which means he would have been 2 feet away.

@MahiMahi4757-zr9zf

7 күн бұрын

That’s what made me extremely skeptical. Like where’s the nose in one of the pictures? The one where he would have to be standing over it(like you said) but he was apparently 15 feet away. The green background is just so weird with no detail whatsoever. Plus who takes pictures of dogs on the side of the road (because he thought it was a dog at first). Why pictures and not a recording. Finally, the last picture is just feels extremely odd especially with the angle he took it from.

@meadowswta8657

3 күн бұрын

@@MahiMahi4757-zr9zf unless like most rural roads with a drop off gutter. ripped into photos with my editing tools and i was not sure but then i focused on random spots of the photos and found even the most dull bit of ground was consistent with the image as a hole and trust me thats is gonna take so bloody long, that long it would b near impossible to hole the consistency of work. i would put money on that the photos are real and its some kinda dressed up disabled dog of adequate form

I live in Australia (mainland), have visited Tasmania, have friends living there and spoken to people who grew up there and can say that not only do most Tasmanians not question the Thylacines continued existence, particularly in remote areas, there are Tasmanians who say they have seen them when camping or fishing in remote areas of north west area. Tasmanians do not want the attention on the Thylacine's ongoing existence and the subsequent risk that Thylacine 'hunters' will negatively impact their habitat and bring unwanted tourism to conservation areas.

@howdisturbing

12 күн бұрын

Not quite. Most of the pressure comes from the logging industry. If they find an animal, there will be no more felling/development in the area, if not the island due to conservation. A lot of people see the discovery of a Thylacine as a risk to them and their families thriving financially. My uncle lives there and is in the mining industry, also check out a film called The Hunter which is about exactly what I'm describing.

@ericandrusty9250

12 күн бұрын

How do you explain him driving to Darwin Airport?

@christinebroadby2797

12 күн бұрын

I am a born and bred tasmanian and i can tell you my friend you are correct with your comments. I live in suburbia now but when i was young i lived, camped and bushwalked all over tassie and i can tell you with certainty i believe there are still tassie tigers out there. A lot of us do believe because of the terrain here but if i saw one i would never tell anyone...if they were to be found it would be a shit fight for sure. I can understand why he doesn't want to show his face because social media is brutal. I really believe they are out there but i hope we never truely find. ❤

@Alphahydro

12 күн бұрын

I can understand, and if so, hope the animal can thrive enough that its existence is no longer questioned.

@kuttinkuddy3905

12 күн бұрын

Just like there's no mtn lions in new england.

Plot Twist: Forrest hired this guy to fake it so that he could get funding to go search for the Thylacine himself 🤣

@kylewilliam4230

16 күн бұрын

lol That would be genius

@tombombadil6591

16 күн бұрын

Epic plot twist!

@williamcozart8158

16 күн бұрын

He should have hired a better actor.

@ZilchFukaina

16 күн бұрын

Kony 2012 type of deviance.

@loganrobson8624

16 күн бұрын

honestly, that would be pretty clever

@ForrestGalante - any follow up on this? Did you receive the original photos?

I live not far from Upper Stowport. He described it well. It is a remote country road. Small farms, mainly sheep. Not many people. No street lights. Google map it. There is literally 1 road (and that's not a busy one) between this area and huge national parks that cover most of the state. He mentioned the rigid tail, which is correct. Thylacines aren't dogs, they wouldn’t make the same noise. Thylacines' main enemy (apart from people) was wild dogs. In recent years they've been controlled a lot better. So if a few thylacines survived, they could have bred. Yes, he messed up the itinerary. A few years ago I flew from Hawaii to Melbourne (no international flights to anywhere in Tasmania) - it took 11 hours. I defy anyone to not feel a bit confused after that. There is a motel at Hobart airport, people often stay there to get the first flight out around 6am. Hobart to Stowport would take 4 to 5 hours. Most of the road is reasonable, except for the last 20km or so. I believe it could be legit. Either that or he stole the stuffed one from the movie they made a few years ago.

@LiztheWiz218

6 күн бұрын

It’s totally fake, go to the Gaming Beaver, he debunks it all.

@JaneNewAuthor

6 күн бұрын

I've since spoken with a friend who spends a LOT of time in the bush near here. I sent him the video. He believes it's fake. Revising my former opinion. Well done, well researched even, but not real.

@cameronboggs7292

6 күн бұрын

I'd like to add that as an American. A 4 hour drive means nothing to us. They very well could have flown into the further location and drove the distance

@JaneNewAuthor

6 күн бұрын

@@cameronboggs7292 4 hours is a long drive in Tasmania. It's hilly, a lot of the roads are windy and narrow. But that's a Tasmanian perspective and he's American.

@cameronboggs7292

5 күн бұрын

@JaneNewAuthor yea we tend to be masters of dissociating when it comes to drives. Hilly, twisty. Straight shots whatever. I drive 7 hours just to hang out with my brother, I've done 12 hour round trips in one go. 4 hours to get lunch. Alot of us just do that very regularly. Many non american folks find it crazy my work commute daily is over an hour lol

Him not wanting to be known to a billion people isn't odd...it's smart

@mj.l

13 күн бұрын

him perpetuating such an obvious hoax isn't smart....it's odd

@lukevanamerongen5622

13 күн бұрын

@@mj.l What about this is obviously false? I'm not saying I 100% believe it, but I don't see anything directly proving it false

@noelramirez1551

12 күн бұрын

​@@lukevanamerongen5622 because it's Forrest.....that alone should be red flag

@cryptidhunter9901

12 күн бұрын

I cannot vouch for this guy, but assuming he is not a hoaxer, I do not blame him for wanting to stay anonymous. Your name can be ruined in an instant if you are featured on the media talking about cryptid animals still being alive.

@matthewlarue1883

12 күн бұрын

Also why is he pressuring him so bad? I mean no need for that. Most normal people don't want to be on the internet. Also his friend Henry may not want to be involved at all as it would cause a huge issue in someone's life. Its also a big reason why a lot of people don't want to get involved in being witness to crimes. It takes up a ton of your time, harassment from media, harassment from anonymous people, and unwanted questions into your whole life.

Things that do make sense: -random foreigner stumbling upon it -‘meowed’ at me -including the in-between blurry pics -he & his dad wondering if they should take it to the vet -guy wanting to remain anonymous -the way guy talks on interview. He’s a random guy unfamiliar with podcasts, zoom talks etc -not knowing exact flight paths, hours driven etc is normal -he not volunteering any ‘fantastic’ info or unrealistic details BUT Photos instead of video? Thats what makes no sense whatsoever. Why not record video? Who the hell shoots pics nowadays? I want it to be true.

@Amanda-uc5jq

12 күн бұрын

I take photos over videos because I love photography not videography 🤷‍♀️ But I think he’s full of it

@StephenMcCallumAu

12 күн бұрын

None of the airport and travel info makes sense, this guy has clearly never been to Tasmania.

@KakashisOnlyGirl1

11 күн бұрын

@@StephenMcCallumAuI think he might be posing as the one that found it for a friend who ACTUALLY found it, but didn’t want to be publicized. Its why he couldn’t place perfect details.

@mihajlo6489

11 күн бұрын

I literally never remember to record a video. The photo button is just there and I just press that whenever something interesting happens

@edwhatshisname3562

11 күн бұрын

He probably panicked. The first setting your phone is on is photo mode, so you have to look down for a precious second to switch it over to video, then hit record. Even that part makes sense.

As much as I want this to be real, looking at the image file names, you can see that the first photo is named ‘IMG_6630’ and the last is ‘IMG_6700’. These names are automatic and chronological, meaning there would have had to be 70 photos taken between the first photo and the last. Zack said the whole interaction only lasted 30 seconds, which means he would have had to take 2-3 photos per second. Assuming he had the flash on and/or night mode activated on the camera, this wouldn’t be possible as it takes a few seconds to capture a single photo at night.

@Solznmid

5 күн бұрын

A regular iPhone can take that many pictures if you don’t have the flash on. The flash looks to come from the flashlight his dad was holding

@jackieclaremont3227

4 күн бұрын

These photos aren’t the originals, they are reshared from Henry, so the sequence could be anything.

@annataymond9529

2 күн бұрын

Well no because they’re going through a second person. It’s showing the person who screenshotted not the original

@Solznmid

2 күн бұрын

@@annataymond9529 they’re fake tho sadly. Watch the gaming beavers video on it, he debunks them pretty well.

It sounds legitimate to me. I remember being young and completely oblivious of specific airports and flight patterns too. It wasn't until I started booking my own flights that I actually started remembering which airports we used for travel.

@coltonbarnes7861

Күн бұрын

Its fake

@Sam-fz3mx

Күн бұрын

@@coltonbarnes7861 okay

The dude really needs to get his flight story sorted out. There are references online for "direct" flights to Hobart from the USA. But when you drill down and actually attempt to make a booking, you get hit with at least 2 stops. As someone who has lived in Tasmania while working for clients in the USA, it would be have been incredible to get to the USA directly. Even if he flew into Darwin and then Darwin to Hobart, Qantas, Jetstar and Virgin ALL stop in Melbourne first. Get his flight itinerary.

@syntholshoulders1842

16 күн бұрын

it's fake HE won't even share other photos he's been there ITS ovviosly a fraud IF this animal was fher people would have seen it by now animals don't hide like this thrt go out and seek food n water not trying to be negative what animals hide we see all animals around even a yellow penguin

@firestarterxox69

16 күн бұрын

I have flown there quite a few times. They don't all stop at Mel first, I've been redirected many times even. Everyone who flies there goes through that and we don't end up in Melbourne. They send us to Perth of all places most of the time and it really wrecks any plans you may have at the start. One thing is true though. It would be incredible to find a direct flight. 0 stop direct flights stopped quite a while ago.

@wadesdad2640

16 күн бұрын

Yep, I second this.

@channeling764

15 күн бұрын

The kid is socially awkward, and lacks articulation which is totally normal. Not everyone is an outgoing perfectly media trained person. And about the flights and stuff, nobody remembers airport names, I’d be guessing since those names don’t have any special phonetics.

@Jamaca22

14 күн бұрын

Unless they flew private, quite possible from LA

He states “we were heading back to Darwin international airport” That is at the top of Australia, which is 4,254kms from his proposed sighting location. That is 2,643 miles. This guy is Full Of It!!

@reynardgrimm2811

9 күн бұрын

Yeah, there's also no direct flights to Hobart.

@SundanceMair

8 күн бұрын

My thoughts the same you can't get a direct flight to hobart from USA only via new Zealand

@user-vf4pu8qp9d

8 күн бұрын

Darwin could be Devonport

@aussietiprat3193

8 күн бұрын

Yes, why would you go from Tasmania. to Darwin to America? When you will go to Melbourne to America? This guy should have looked at a map 🐂💩🐂💩🐂💩

@carldale7048

8 күн бұрын

He also says that they were heading to the Darwin airport at 11:30 pm to come back to the states. What time is this flight? Who heads to the airport around midnight?

Totally understand the guy Zak on not wantring to showing his face on the net! Great work Forest!

It's not rocket science. You develop a criteria (the Thylacine criteria is VERY WELL developed) and you never deviate from that criteria.... that's how you systematically hunt something down. There is a massive Thylacine underground (so to speak), a very well established ecosystem of scientists and fanatics alike, who've dedicated their entire lives to finding definitive proof of this thing still alive. Anyone who behaves like that guy, is so far out there, it's painfully obvious how far this deviates from any reasonable person's criteria for identifying this creature. How Forrest could even make this video without throwing up, is beyond me....

I'm a Tasmanian, who's also traveled to the US a few times. He says his travel was something like this: - Drove almost 6 hours to Chicago - Teleports to New York (as 13 hour drive away) - Flies from New York direct to Hobart International Airport, despite no planes ever doing that - Or maybe, from New York to Darwin, despite that being a 50+ hour drive (including a ferry ride) from Upper Stowport These aren't small "oh I just forgot the name" or "oh yeah, there was a little stop over actually" errors... they're "I've never traveled to any of these places, so I'm winging it and hoping you haven't either" answers. My impression is that these images are likely AI generated, possibly with some post-processing. I know you mentioned, Forrest, that you couldn't get AI to produce anything like these. But I wonder if you were just using text prompts? Because I think if you used text prompts, and a couple of historic thylacine photos, and maybe a couple of photos of the look you were going for, all in the prompt you could probably get close!

@yourlocalvintagegal

15 күн бұрын

I’m American and had no clue about that, thanks for the info

@RandomShortGuy528

15 күн бұрын

If these are fake I do not think they’re AI generated these are WAY to good to be AI he’s gotta just be really talented at photoshop

@Mark-id3bf

15 күн бұрын

I think the best way to support this take would be to challenge folks to produce/create similar quality photos using AI or other means. Would be interesting to see how close to this quality folks could get.

@nintendofan1921

15 күн бұрын

@@Mark-id3bfexactly, people say they are artists and use AI, than recreate them the way you say he did it. The photos weren’t on the internet

@lisagfrerer9429

15 күн бұрын

me having had teenagers, I would say, seeing he is travelling with his dad, who would have organised the whole trip and someone who he rarely sees, he probably spent the whole time on his phone and didnt pay attention to the details of flights, when and where and just went along with his dad leading the way- not unusual at all, many teenagers would do this.

Honestly props to you for putting up with the interview that was so painful at points

@staceyroberts3468

10 күн бұрын

I agree 😬😬😬😬😬😬. It was painful to listen to. Haha.

@user-fe1xk4ns8j

8 күн бұрын

@@staceyroberts3468I thought I was alone

Hey! I just found this channel but im very impressed by your work! Im from Bulgaria (country in Europe) and im really interested in those kind of things like extinct or rare animals, mostly like Thylacine is... That's exactly the reason to sub for your channel - the Thylacine, i watched the video about it that was before several months and then i saw this one... The Thylacine "extinction" and itself have been haunting my mind for so many years, cus dude that animal is impressive and its so sad that it meet his end of the hand of the humans (like a lot more animals did) just before almost 90 years... In my opinion there is still a chance a population of these little marsupials to be out there, like, the woods in Tasmania are not that easy to be studied, and if we take the fact the Thylacine is probably a night animal there is high chance of it to live out there... (My suggestion is, if the Thylacine is still alive his population is very small with 100 to 1000 individuals max). I'm really impressed with this animal and one of my biggest dreams is to go in Tasmania one day (or even Australia and New Guinea, that came in my mind after your video for these 2 possible locations) to look for it and find evidence for his existence today. Im still in the Univercity and i hope, one day i will have the chance to visit Tasmania to look over for this unique creature. Admirations for your effort!

One thing I wanna ad: he obviously never flew to the US, those flightpaths make no sense. That might be a distraction altogether. What if he is an Aussie, that visited his aunt in Tasmania, and they hit a thylocene on the road. So he fears legal consequences for maybe killing an endangered species. First: who carries a big flashlight in a retal car? Thats something a farmer has in his truck. Second: the only flights out of hobart go to mainland Australia. Its more likely that thats where he went. Third: he said hes a turtle and snake guy. Thats not really a thing you find a lot in Minneapolis. Its a lot more common in Australia probably. Fourth: Probably the thylocene was hit near or on his families land. Its likely he changed the location and the metadata to protect their property. If the thylocene was discovered there, it would have been put under protection. Fifth: Im sure he knows what a thylocene is. He said his first reaction was thinking its a dingo. That's what an Australian will associate first probably Sixth: he send pictures to a friend who send them to researchers. He is very hesitant to bring this to light. Probably because he protects his own or his families interest. But was pushed into this. An american would not have such interests, but would probably be happy to collect the prices for proving the existence

Last photo and his hesitation when you asked what flights he took is making me skeptical. But if it is a hoax, it is 100% the realest looking hoax we have seen so far. Definitely interesting!

@jasonglenn957

16 күн бұрын

You can't drive to Darwin from Tasmania unless you take the ferry from Hobart to Melbourne then traverse the whole length of the country from Sth to Nth.

@GIRTHYANDITCURVES

16 күн бұрын

With AI you can really just type “flashlight shining on thylacine against grass background at night”

@AckieGamer27

16 күн бұрын

@@GIRTHYANDITCURVES that isnt true, I tried putting the tazzie tiger in AI and it looked nothing like the animal in the photo

@adil.670

16 күн бұрын

​​​@@GIRTHYANDITCURVES I didn't watch the call to form my opinion on him but from the pictures they do look like they were taken using an iphone , cuz unlike professional cameras, iphone does a lot of heavy processing to pictures you can always tell if a photo was shot on iphone , ai can make a photo in so many styles but but i don't think it would replacate the effect you get with iphone photos . Or maybe you can just Easley add "shot on Iphone" to the prompt hhh who knows .

@Stand.Your.Ground.

16 күн бұрын

@@GIRTHYANDITCURVESno you can’t.

Im 48yrs old now but 35yrs ago when I was 13yo out spotlighting with my father I spotted the wierdest looking kangaroo standing up behind a big fallen trunk. Rules of sbooting are hou never shoot at anything you cant psotively identify so I was hesitant to pull the trigger. The old man is losing his crap holding the spotlight screaming at me to shoot but I couldn't. This thing then slinks over the trunk and i said to myself 'thats no roo!' as I watched it trot away on all fours. Just before it reach the tree line another one came and joined it with 2 smaller ones in tow. Never made any claims about what I saw other than 'it was a slinky thing' to my fathers and my uncles ridicule. Years later (maybe 34yrs old) watching Thylacine videos on youtube I saw the one where the last Thylacine does the same slinky back arching thing I saw and I immediately had flashbacks and knew what I saw that night. This was in South Australia's Riverland. I know they are out there and will eventually be found. Lets just hope we dont destroy them for the second time

@Andrew-fy9wu

11 күн бұрын

Cool made up story

@mysty0

11 күн бұрын

@@Andrew-fy9wu if you say so bro, must really suck having such an empty life like yours

@meesoedontask5562

11 күн бұрын

I full heartedly agree... Far to many reports to say they didn't go extinct...

@annataymond9529

2 күн бұрын

@@meesoedontask5562I mean… to be fair, there are also lots of reports about Bigfoot and the lochness monster and chupacabra and I doubt they’re ALL real

@RJW2012

Күн бұрын

Good thing you didn't shoot.

The only thing that I find “odd” is that Hobart only has 1 international flight & thats to New Zealand. All the others are domestic flights inside Australia

The pic with the open jaw doesn’t look like a natural jaw opening, it looks unhinged like a snake, only more alien.

@bigratkiller1

3 күн бұрын

The jaw of a Thylacine opens about 80 degrees. If the pic is fake they at least got that bit accurate. pic here esciencenews.com/files/images/201108315329930.jpg

I think the guy is genuine. His level of confidence even if it wasn’t very high doesn’t really change. Someone with made up story sounds really confident until you start picking it apart. This guy didn’t change his story after you started asking questions. My only area of concern is the travel info. I work in the aviation industry and as part of my job I interview people who aren’t professional interviewees regularly. What I can tell you about the flight info is you aren’t going to direct to Tasmania or even southern Australia from Chicago or New York without inflight air refueling. So even if he was mistaken about his airfield names and I don’t see an issue with that because the average young person these days could very well be, he would remember if there were layovers so either he isn’t being completely honest about that or he’s afraid of divulging too much of those details because of privacy reasons. The one mistake I’d say you made when questioning him was on that topic. Keeping questions open ended are going to yield the most honest answers. When you named an airport he latched onto it and said yes that one. In developing witness questionnaires you should avoid “leading” questions that send someone down a path to a particular answer. Let them answer to the best of their memory even if it’s mistaken. You can sort out the details once you have a full answer. Maybe try to interview him completely off the books and with no recording to establish legitimacy and report back in your own words a summary leaving out any details he doesn’t want you to divulge to protect his privacy which he clearly values for one reason or another. If you go above and beyond to address his concerns and make him comfortable you’ll likely get the best answers that way. I can’t comment on the pictures because I know nothing about photography. All I can say is taking pictures with a phone during the day on moving targets is hard enough at least with my phone. I can see where zoomed in and at night they wouldn’t be very good. I know I’m 2 days late and one of over 8000 comments but if you do see this I hope it helps.

@emjaynie54

12 күн бұрын

I can explain the photography part ... the dates were because of screenshots transferred from his friend, he said. Yet the photos were taken on his phone, so those originals on his own phone would have the original metadata, ie., the actual date the photos were taken ... as opposed to the date the screenshots were transferred to him. Agree on the leading questions too, and I also noticed that gaff.

@btandthebear6021

12 күн бұрын

@@emjaynie54 that all makes sense with the photos. Something depending on the phone (this is true with the iPhone 11) is you get location with the metadata. A lot of people like myself, however, shut off their phones ability to track their location that precisely and as a consequence there is no location with the metadata. He may or may not have known about that ability or may or may not have shut that off. Having him send the originals may give the location they were taken though. Coincidentally, I took a picture of our cat this morning before the room had much light in it using the long exposure feature of the iPhone. Had nothing to do with this video. But I was immediately reminded of it when the cat was washed out and cartoon looking like this animal. For me that gives legitimacy to the pictures being real. But again I’m far from a photography expert. Just something that stood out in my mind.

@IowaKim

5 күн бұрын

He sounds like some people I travel with, rely upon others to get them to the gate and unaware of their surroundings. Especially if dad is calling the shots. Geography eludes them.

The Thylacine has been my heart animal since I was 8 years old in 1970. My first school report was on the Thylacine. My teacher had vacationed in Australia and she told us about the Hobart Zoo. Back then the research was with encyclopedias, no internet so looking up the zoo led from one thing led to another and I discovered that amazing animal. The story of the last one is a heartbreaker. I have been watching and waiting for legitimate sightings all of my life. Recently when I heard that science was trying to bring it back from extinction, I was so excited. I haven't seen any recent developments lately though. I hope and pray that someday soon the thylacine will be found or brought back to walk the earth again. I am old and would die happy if I could just see it alive before I go.

@indo1354

16 күн бұрын

there is a good chance that at least Thylacine can be brought back. Many genetic organizations have Thylacine DNA that they want to use to clone the Thylacine. So, there is a good chance you will at least see a video of one in your life time.

@matwind

16 күн бұрын

Thank You for your summary. Reading your thoughts resignated in me. I still have the weekly reader article of the tasmanian devel from back in the 70's. I was the same kid that you speak of.

@josephblanchard6248

14 күн бұрын

They are still around. There's random evidence online besides this.

@tsmith8845

12 күн бұрын

@@josephblanchard6248 I won't be sure until I see it on international news, grainy YT videos are not evidence. 60 minutes Australia I would trust.

Imagine if he brought a Tasmanian Tiger to the littoral vet, that would be so funny😂