[TAS] Undertale - No Hit Genocide Speedrun (Max Possible EXP)

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This is a Tool-Assisted Speedrun (TAS), which means that this video was made in an emulator with save states and slow downs for a theoretically perfect run, for entertainment purpose.
Undertale is an indie RPG created in 2015 by Toby Fox. There are 3 main endings: True Pacifist, Neutral, and Genocide. This TAS achieves the Genocide Ending, which is known for being the most RNG-intensive category in the game due to the heavy emphasis on combat; the player must kill a specific amount of enemies in each area in order to not lock themselves out of this ending. I decided to make a two ways: max possible EXP and min possible EXP and compare them a time difference between two ways. Also I wanted to show you how long does it take if you'll try to get on monsters which have have the most EXP on every section.
For No Hit I use an english version, for an any category I use japanese. This is a run not for time, but for speed.
In 2017 I used fandom wiki for knowing the monsters with highest exp in every section. So I made a calculation tab in Excel: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
⏱ Timecodes:
▶ 0:00 - Start
▶ 0:14 - Ruins
▶ 19:31 - Snowdin
▶ 2:13:23 - Waterfall
▶ 2:36:15 - Hotland/CORE
▶ 2:57:10 - A New Home
▶ 3:11:17 - Ending
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  • @esac7381
    @esac7381 Жыл бұрын

    The thing about doing this, you have to get lucky when it comes to finding loox. And it takes a while to grind Glydes

  • @jruler93

    @jruler93

    Жыл бұрын

    Considering how the Glyde grind took the TAS from 24:00 to 2:10:50, yeah, I'd say it takes a while.

  • @esac7381

    @esac7381

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jruler93 although you could just flee monsters in the ruins until you find loox

  • @brawlmaster0190

    @brawlmaster0190

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@esac7381Flee and spare also. Doesn't matter as long as the kill count is satisfied in the end

  • @beenings213

    @beenings213

    5 ай бұрын

    nice pfp

  • @c4rtierst4rz
    @c4rtierst4rz10 ай бұрын

    i REFUSE to believe that grinding glydes took 2 HOURS.

  • @MDGOLD

    @MDGOLD

    10 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately it does i spend few hour looking trying to find glyde On the genocide route No luck really tbh

  • @stevenpavelish6017
    @stevenpavelish60172 жыл бұрын

    Awesome TAS!

  • @RyoSuzaki64
    @RyoSuzaki642 жыл бұрын

    I tried doing this exact challenge to see if it was possible to reach LV 18. But after many attempts, aborting genocide at the very last enemy and killing mettaton Neo, I came to the conclusion that it’s legitimately impossible to reach LV 18. Which means it’s totally possible to reach LV 17 after killing mettaton neo early lmao Good shit nonetheless though!

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 жыл бұрын

    Really? Even after very last enemy, Mettaton NEO still give you LV19? I tested before and I got LV18. Maybe, you are doing wrong?

  • @RyoSuzaki64

    @RyoSuzaki64

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ShiroParadox99 Then again, it was ages ago since I did this lol. Though, there is one glitch that can be abused to gain infinite XP. Which only lies in the very first version of Undertale. Loox can be picked on infinite times to receive any amount of XP you desire. I found this out on the Mac release but it’s certainly possible on the Windows release from what people told me

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RyoSuzaki64 Ah, this. I know about that bug. But if you'll try get LV20 on picking on Loox then it will take 17 hours.

  • @lancerdeltarune

    @lancerdeltarune

    2 жыл бұрын

    somebody needs to do this

  • @shaunduzstuffs

    @shaunduzstuffs

    Жыл бұрын

    Lv 18 is possible to reach in Aborted Genocide

  • @jibvil
    @jibvil2 жыл бұрын

    Great TAS! Unfortunately, you actually missed a couple of ways to get even more EXP than the total you got, thus not making this a true max EXP genocide run. I have tested these and actually completed this run, so here's what you missed: -The first (scripted) Froggit encounter doesn't actually count towards the Ruins kill quota, although it does add +1 to the actual kill counter in the Stats menu (it doesn't remove a kill from the Ruins and still allows you to kill the same amount of Looxs). -Instead of killing a single Knight Knight as the final kill of CORE, get into a triple encounter with Final Froggit, Whimsalot, and Astigmatism when there's one kill left, as it's the encounter variant that gives the most EXP by the end of the battle (360 EXP) -After you've finished grinding in the CORE, you can still use the Warrior's Path for those 3 scripted encounters even after the "but nobody came" text appears (920 EXP) After adding in these improvements, the total calculations (Pre Mettaton) should look like this: First Froggit (10 EXP) + 21 fully picked on Looxs (462 EXP) + Toriel (150 EXP) + Snowdrake (22 EXP) + 15 Glydes (1500 EXP) + Doggo (30 EXP) + Dogamy and Dogaressa (60 EXP) + Greater Dog (80 EXP) + Papyrus (200 EXP) + 19 Aaron/Woshuas (988 EXP) + Shyren (52 EXP) + Glad Dummy (0 EXP lol) + Undyne the Undying (1500 EXP) + Royal Guards (220 EXP) + Muffet (300 EXP) + 36 Knight Knights (6480 EXP) + Triple Froggit, Whimsalot, and Astigmatism encounter (360 EXP) + Warrior's Path (920 EXP) should all equal to 13334 EXP total. The total that you managed to accumulate (by taking the true total and adding the deductions) (Pre Mettaton) was only 12224 EXP (1110 EXP less than the true Genocide total). Other than my long spiel, great TAS! Just needs a little bit of re-routing and it should be good as perfect!

  • @houdemon

    @houdemon

    Жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/p6Ggp8iohqe3cdY.html

  • @houdemon

    @houdemon

    Жыл бұрын

    wait u can get more than one glydes??

  • @houdemon

    @houdemon

    Жыл бұрын

    + ice and jerry and snowdrake 40 exp instead of 22?

  • @Neo_Bones

    @Neo_Bones

    Жыл бұрын

    @@houdemon Snowdrake is killed because you’re required to in order to not abort the Genocide Route. Killing a triple would result in adding 3 to the kill count instead of 1, making you able to kill two less Glydes than usual, granting less EXP. I’ve actually been thinking of skipping the Snowdrake encounter until the last kill of Snowdin, that way you can make that a triple with Ice Cap (after stealing the hat, +25 EXP) and Jerry (+1 EXP)

  • @jibvil

    @jibvil

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Neo_Bones holy crap I never thought about that. That could potentially add even more EXP to the total! Although, I wonder if Lesser Dog's encounter would mess it up though.

  • @erner_wisal
    @erner_wisal Жыл бұрын

    2:09:52 "I'm leaving, I'm tired waiting for this"

  • @lol.9996
    @lol.9996 Жыл бұрын

    Good job partner...=) Хорошая работа партнёр...=)

  • @SpinDash_Go_2150
    @SpinDash_Go_21502 жыл бұрын

    WOW undertale is back if I was expecting toby fox I would expect deltarune

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 жыл бұрын

    I glad you like it^^

  • @SpinDash_Go_2150

    @SpinDash_Go_2150

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes I did like it altho how do you speedrun undertale?

  • @SpinDash_Go_2150

    @SpinDash_Go_2150

    2 жыл бұрын

    like you can skip text thats good you cant go eny faster

  • @SpinDash_Go_2150

    @SpinDash_Go_2150

    2 жыл бұрын

    when walking

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SpinDash_Go_2150 I use libtas but it for Linux so I use VirtualBox.

  • @Hummel2224
    @Hummel2224 Жыл бұрын

    Can anyone explain, why he doesn’t get straight single Knight Knights?

  • @rakenzarnsworld2
    @rakenzarnsworld2 Жыл бұрын

    Now let's try disbelief by Cezar Andrade full phase no hit directly.

  • @Shiro_Zark
    @Shiro_Zark Жыл бұрын

    You should possibly do this on the Bits and Pieces mod

  • @Deadbyglamour

    @Deadbyglamour

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah you only need to press the mushrooms while grinding clyde

  • @shaunathenicehedgehog6740
    @shaunathenicehedgehog67402 жыл бұрын

    *Interesting!*

  • @kocerga222
    @kocerga222 Жыл бұрын

    That's not maximum exp, after all kills on 2nd floor core, you can go to 1st floor core. Here are still +7 monsters(after but nobody came!) But after killing mettaton neo(with 1 left and tl) they disappear(bad English)

  • @sansypants2676
    @sansypants267611 ай бұрын

    3:04:25 bro got double slammed.

  • @GraySheep1717
    @GraySheep17174 ай бұрын

    AMAZING

  • @Devastation671
    @Devastation671 Жыл бұрын

    Me during the Sans fight when you kept getting close to getting hit:hey dont- bro- STOP SCARING ME LIKE THAT JESUS

  • @phanthenguyen2518
    @phanthenguyen2518Ай бұрын

    It's dustin time!

  • @Dominic13337
    @Dominic133378 ай бұрын

    I wonder how minimum EXP would work you'd have to kill a whole lot of jerrys

  • @NutBreadMSMC

    @NutBreadMSMC

    6 ай бұрын

    considering encounter manip, you probably just grind 19 Whimsuns (accounting for scripted Froggit), 14 (painstaking) single Jerrys (which you can only grind for in like one or two rooms, also accounting for scripted Snowdrake and Lesser Dog) and all Dogs, 17 Moldsmals (accounting for scripted Aaron), and then 39 Vulkins (accounting for scripted Plane). I don’t really feel like doing the math, but that’s at least my logical way of doing minimum EXP.

  • @chair547
    @chair5472 жыл бұрын

    First froggit doesn't count towards the kill counter (+10 exp)

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, I remember it counts.

  • @Neo_Bones

    @Neo_Bones

    2 жыл бұрын

    There’s also the seven static CORE encounters in the one room with the button that stay there after exhausting the kill counter (+ I saw you showing LV17 NEO in one of your old TASes)

  • @RichConnerGMN

    @RichConnerGMN

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ShiroParadox99 uh... no? it doesn't count. that's why the 1.08 geno tas doesn't kill it

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RichConnerGMN When I calculated in 2017, I played in 1.001.

  • @calumorsomething9818

    @calumorsomething9818

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Shiro Paradox it legit doesn’t count you missed 10 exp

  • @SableJem
    @SableJem7 ай бұрын

    Bruh I was surprised when I figured out it was possible to reach LV 4 in ruins, but LV 11 in SNOWDIN? Bruh wtf I did NOT realzie Glyde gave that much damn exp

  • @rogersasanka3408
    @rogersasanka3408 Жыл бұрын

    Max% category time

  • @fallen-stars_fan
    @fallen-stars_fan10 ай бұрын

    This is not max If instead knight knight go to bridge with lever, when 1 enemy left, you can get more exp

  • @clairebennett9104
    @clairebennett91042 жыл бұрын

    "Kid..." *"Your LOVE Will Never Reach 20 Against Me"* "You Wanna Know Why?" "Because... If You Did..." *"Monster-Kind And Humanity Would Fall Down To Hell"*

  • @teamok1025

    @teamok1025

    Жыл бұрын

    Me: ae

  • @Player0XGaming
    @Player0XGaming2 жыл бұрын

    you combine to speedrun sonic 2

  • @GamerJayvee
    @GamerJayvee Жыл бұрын

    Yo, I'm gonna shoutout to you after I did a full story of Undertale.

  • @Mr.Gear01
    @Mr.Gear012 жыл бұрын

    =O increíble

  • @FrokeiThorn
    @FrokeiThorn Жыл бұрын

    Most disrespectful Tas I've ever seen do a sans fight

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    Жыл бұрын

    What didn't you like?

  • @FrokeiThorn

    @FrokeiThorn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ShiroParadox99 It hit sans with the JUKES like my GOD, sans must want to retire after that

  • @DarkShamilKhan
    @DarkShamilKhan2 жыл бұрын

    Writing your name as A saves time tho instead of your full name

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 жыл бұрын

    In description I wrote that isn't for time but speed.

  • @teamok1025
    @teamok1025 Жыл бұрын

    Where can i download tas things

  • @turtle4283
    @turtle4283Ай бұрын

    I did this run legitimately on the Switch(not no-hit though). It was painful….

  • @HyperStormH
    @HyperStormH2 жыл бұрын

    Will you do Deltarune no-damage sometime? I think that could be fun.

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 жыл бұрын

    But I don't know what better: before reset or after reset? I mean: with start cutscene or without.

  • @Neo_Bones

    @Neo_Bones

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nah do the start cutscene, and also wait for all the chapters to come out so you can do Pacifist + Snowgrave routes for each one

  • @skylertherat

    @skylertherat

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Neo_Bones waiting for all the chapters might take too long 💀

  • @Neo_Bones

    @Neo_Bones

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or do each chapter individually with all routes (Chp 1, Chp 1 Pacifist, Chp 2, and Chp 2 Snowgrave)

  • @B1tcharp

    @B1tcharp

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@Neo_Bonesyou wait a whole year to suggest the sane solution 💀

  • @user-vk1nf2tb9i
    @user-vk1nf2tb9i Жыл бұрын

    This is good speedrun game ... Not ideally

  • @calumorsomething9818
    @calumorsomething98182 жыл бұрын

    He didn’t kill the froggit that gives 10 exp it doesn’t count as a kill so technically this isn’t max exp

  • @eomex8379

    @eomex8379

    Жыл бұрын

    You don't know how many people have said this.

  • @SonicKirbo

    @SonicKirbo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@eomex8379 because it's right

  • @eomex8379

    @eomex8379

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SonicKirbo I said this 4 months ago, wtf

  • @SonicKirbo

    @SonicKirbo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@eomex8379 ok

  • @benio15269
    @benio152692 жыл бұрын

    2:18:58

  • @stefaniegilmore7954
    @stefaniegilmore79543 ай бұрын

    His s:😑

  • @nameno9231
    @nameno923111 ай бұрын

    3:00:00

  • @SonicMaster2022
    @SonicMaster20222 жыл бұрын

    How did you TAS Undertale? Did you use the Yuzu emulator or some other method?

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 жыл бұрын

    I used LibTAS in Ubuntu.

  • @SonicMaster2022

    @SonicMaster2022

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ShiroParadox99 Got it.

  • @teamok1025

    @teamok1025

    Жыл бұрын

    Whats yuzu emulator

  • @Clover12469

    @Clover12469

    6 ай бұрын

    @@teamok1025 nintendo switch emulator

  • @archerestarcher
    @archerestarcher2 жыл бұрын

    I don't understand what you mean in the description by going for speed not time. Like, I thought those are pretty much the same?

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 жыл бұрын

    It means as fast as possible.

  • @Neo_Bones

    @Neo_Bones

    2 жыл бұрын

    Basically they want to play optimal but don’t plan to post to any leaderboards

  • @archerestarcher

    @archerestarcher

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ShiroParadox99 then that's also time because as fast as possible decreases time

  • @archerestarcher

    @archerestarcher

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Neo_Bones oh ok

  • @johnjohnjohnson7720
    @johnjohnjohnson77207 ай бұрын

    I always wondered if you can spare papyrus with enough exp and still be on the genocide route.

  • @SableJem

    @SableJem

    7 ай бұрын

    No, sparing Papyrus aborts the Geno route entirely, he still has to die

  • @johnjohnjohnson7720

    @johnjohnjohnson7720

    7 ай бұрын

    We can and shall still try.

  • @Clover12469

    @Clover12469

    6 ай бұрын

    not possible, LV isn't what decides geno route or not, the game has flags and the kill counter, so even if you reach LV 19 before sans and spare papyrus, you wont be on geno route

  • @johnjohnjohnson7720

    @johnjohnjohnson7720

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Clover12469 Even though I know that's true I still think it would be neat.

  • @etzeldharmawan4726
    @etzeldharmawan47262 жыл бұрын

    I knew you are a ghost (edited) why you keep trying to open the door of secret

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 жыл бұрын

    This for encountering 15 Glydes.

  • @shaunduzstuffs
    @shaunduzstuffs Жыл бұрын

    This video isn't even true. Ignoring the fact that you skipped the froggit that gives 10 exp, you also don't go to warriors path in the CORE when there's only one monster left

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    Жыл бұрын

    I'll repeat from NHT server. I don't remember, when first Froggit couldn't count. I playtested in 2017 on 1.001 and it was counted. I even wasn't writing "Max EXP", but "Max Possible EXP" because I did have doubts that someone will definitely write about missed things. Anyway, thanks for moment about warrior's path.

  • @Odie_Nico

    @Odie_Nico

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@ShiroParadox99 i calculated the ultimate way to have the max possible EXP on a genocide Run. Ruins: the same Thing you had done except Killing the First froggit Snowland: the Same way You did Waterfall: Same thing except Killing one Singular Washua Core: wait Till You have only one left, hoping for the Triple Encounter And in the end doing the Warriors path.

  • @Odie_Nico

    @Odie_Nico

    9 ай бұрын

    Little correction after 4 months: for some Strange reason, It's ok to flee from lesser dog at the last cutscene before papyrus Encounter, but only ones. When You do it twice, run's aborted. So in other words: don't meet lesser dog before glyde for extra exp. Except ones and also Encountering him after the Last "Puzzle" (i think the wordsearch?) Is ok. Just remember: dont Encounter him twice

  • @AZOOZTR_Gamers
    @AZOOZTR_Gamers2 жыл бұрын

    Waw okay

  • @spicybreadproductions1972
    @spicybreadproductions19722 жыл бұрын

    Does the game have a level cap at level 19 before the Sans fight?

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't know, maybe it's automatic.

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 жыл бұрын

    @QSV Gaming Hmm, if I will have LV1 and I think, I still will get LV19.

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 жыл бұрын

    @QSV Gaming Sure, I recently checked wiki and it was right.

  • @Neo_Bones

    @Neo_Bones

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if NEO will lower you to LV19 if you’re at LV20

  • @SonicKirbo

    @SonicKirbo

    Жыл бұрын

    no

  • @calvinthecartoonist5913
    @calvinthecartoonist5913 Жыл бұрын

    Bro killed all the monsters that when he goes to different area you see no monsters on the water arc the hotland or the snowy town is this guy really that brutal and the fact that you killed so many monsters that alphys isn’t even there to help you he probably got killed to

  • @Darko-3
    @Darko-32 жыл бұрын

    Wait max level is 20? Okay, that is much worse than Super Mario RPG. But heard the rumor that they can break the level more than 30. I wonder what happen if they break the level more than 20? Does they have this kind of mod for more than 20 or they don't have it?

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 жыл бұрын

    So, I showed this, what if you'll kill monsters with highest exp.

  • @Darko-3

    @Darko-3

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ShiroParadox99 That is pretty bummer. I wonder if there is mod to allow you reach to 99 or 50 like SMRPG.

  • @lancerdeltarune

    @lancerdeltarune

    2 жыл бұрын

    yeah this is literally just a genocide run with a lot of fleeing and glyde kills

  • @SonicPlayer2004
    @SonicPlayer200410 ай бұрын

    Why did you avoid Flowey’s pellets? I thought this was supposed to be a speedrun?

  • @zenith4919

    @zenith4919

    10 ай бұрын

    No hit category. Breaks the category defining rule, so they have to be dodged, along with every other attack

  • @SonicPlayer2004

    @SonicPlayer2004

    10 ай бұрын

    @@zenith4919 Oh Yeah. I forgot about that.

  • @frostscythe910
    @frostscythe91011 ай бұрын

    Nah the disrespect you were giving to sans during the fight 💀

  • @Przygody_Klika
    @Przygody_Klika2 ай бұрын

    You don't have to optymise for EXP at all and still get the Max Possible EXP since Sans doesn't have a set EXP earn insted he is hard coded to land you on LV20 so any geno run gets Max Possible EXP.

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 ай бұрын

    Em, this video meant how many possible exp you'll get in each section.

  • @Przygody_Klika

    @Przygody_Klika

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ShiroParadox99 Still you don't have to kill only Knight Knights at the end as killing Mettaton NEO gets you to LV19 regardless of how much EXP you got so unless you consider the section to be ending just before Mettaton which you clearly don't considering how you used the yootube's chapters feacher.

  • @rakanw.6258
    @rakanw.62582 жыл бұрын

    What’s next ?

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 жыл бұрын

    As long as I don't know...

  • @Sxbzxro964

    @Sxbzxro964

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ShiroParadox99 where is Sega?

  • @CalebGriffin974
    @CalebGriffin9742 ай бұрын

    You forgot one thing I think maybe so sorry doesn’t give any execution points idk

  • @turtle4283

    @turtle4283

    Ай бұрын

    You can’t encounter so sorry on a geno run

  • @karardifdhk112
    @karardifdhk1122 жыл бұрын

    Sonic Unleashed HD

  • @thedarkwatcher1.095

    @thedarkwatcher1.095

    2 ай бұрын

    ? Why do you mean like that?

  • @sansypants2676
    @sansypants267611 ай бұрын

    Bro is like a bot ngl ☠️☠️☠️

  • @channel7zip
    @channel7zip7 ай бұрын

    why do you equip the items?

  • @lucianoo11ok69
    @lucianoo11ok692 жыл бұрын

    Hello Shiro I will be 3 hours watching this video

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good luck!

  • @lucianoo11ok69

    @lucianoo11ok69

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ShiroParadox99 okay xd

  • @TheAnonymous06
    @TheAnonymous062 жыл бұрын

    Hard mode pls

  • @TheAnonymous06

    @TheAnonymous06

    2 жыл бұрын

    All you have to do is change your name is frisk

  • @ShiroParadox99

    @ShiroParadox99

    2 жыл бұрын

    I did it 2 years ago. kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3-rs9WJcpW3frw.html

  • @TheAnonymous06

    @TheAnonymous06

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ShiroParadox99 i know it on the first time

  • @paaythehedgehog8369
    @paaythehedgehog83692 жыл бұрын

    If u play fnf u would be a master bc of ur fingers THEY ARE SO FAST

  • @Neo_Bones

    @Neo_Bones

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s a tas not a human playing

  • @brawlmaster0190

    @brawlmaster0190

    11 ай бұрын

    You seriously think a regular human is capable of this?

  • @gueLamperouge
    @gueLamperouge2 жыл бұрын

    ez

  • @Sxbzxro964
    @Sxbzxro9642 жыл бұрын

    I thought you play Sonic

  • @spicybreadproductions1972

    @spicybreadproductions1972

    2 жыл бұрын

    not always

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