Taramps Bass 3K 3000 watt Amp Dyno Test and Review [4K]
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Time to test another Taramps! This time the "dealer exclusive" Bass 3K, unlike most Brazilian amps is designed exclusively for subwoofers. We will take a closer look at this amp, test it on the Amplifier Dyno and also compare it to the HD3000 to understand the differences.
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In this video Dereck from Williston Audio Labs reviews a Taramps Bass 3K Amplifier
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@teaski3700
5 жыл бұрын
I was able to use the generic 0 gauge to 4 gauge reducer. You just need to manipulate the plastic around the inputs to slip the reducer in.
@JayTea93
5 жыл бұрын
Williston Audio Labs Hey big D ...I want to hook up a head unit and punch 100 dsm in my garage ...what can I use to power the amp?
@nowerlater
5 жыл бұрын
What ever happened to your Maxwell super caps?
@anthonystefanacci9890
5 жыл бұрын
I get that it would be easier to run larger power cable the whole way from the battery to the amp without a reducer but one thing to remember is the reducer is not the only bottle neck. In most amps the traces on the board, filters and fuses if used, MOSFET legs, and the toroidal transformer all use much less copper and handle the current just fine. If you have an amp with repeatable results(back to back runs close to the same power), I'd like to see a video testing different wire sizes and/or reducers and fuses for both power losses and heat generated in the cables. Also, I believe the super low capacitance in both the power supply and high voltage rails in this amp is what yields poor test results in the Dynamic Burst test. The low capacitance can only hold a few milliseconds of power at 3000 watts and a for a 40Hz burst you would ideally want enough capacitance to push full wattage for at least 25 milliseconds.
@Robbobshiskabob
5 жыл бұрын
Hey just curious if anyone know the best place to sell used amp to upgrade? Got a Crescendo BC3500d, but ready to go bigger... Mint condition!
Bro. I appreciate all your tests...honestly if I don’t see a dyno video from you....I will not be purchasing that amplifier.
Great vids man really like what ur doing for the car audio community hope u do good on ur 12v talk keep it up and thanks 👍
the end bit is really important. It isn't always about power and i personally appreciate the fact that you mentioned the quality of the bass it produced and the fact that it could be loud in a daily boomer. keep up the great content BigD. Patiently waiting on the in-car multi-amp test.
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Yessir!
@quantumrift11
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, it made me keep looking. No way I wanna listen to fans peeking in and and drowning a couple dB of my treble. That's not necessary. And when he said the amp itself was not able to keep up with fast music? I thought amps weren't supposed to color the sound or do anything except provide power so if it doesn't provide power in a manner that keeps up with fast music, that's a deal breaker for me for sure because I'm very genre diverse.
Big D you're the best on this!! I really enjoy your videos...
So glad I found you on here!
Stoked for the new sub! Can't waiiiit!
Yea boy ! I get excited to see another video brother
@wal
5 жыл бұрын
U da man
for those wondering, EPCOS is a TDK subsidiary.
I'm glad they've improved a lot with the smart versions...good job Big D 👏 👍
Big D Please use a laser/ infrared thermometer and measure how hot the actual terminal blocks get in relation to the rest of the wire run. Thank you!
@brentspellmeyer8943
4 жыл бұрын
27 of us agree.
@MayzDayz007
4 жыл бұрын
Almost 60 still do...
@thatoneguy9122
2 жыл бұрын
That would be 75 now
@josecunsako31
2 жыл бұрын
@@thatoneguy9122 78 bout now
@ZicaZero125
2 жыл бұрын
@@josecunsako31 79 😳
Big D, you tell it like it is. Much respect for that. It is as rare as alien dookie. Thank you for what you do.
Taramps gained alot of respect for me when they showcased how their amps were made. Almost All parts made in house which was cool to see their process. I would buy from them but I think they do need to listen to some suggestions like you said with adding 1/0 gave inputs knowing thats what most people run in their car. A little displeased with the fan noise...hopefully they can solve that issue and the upper bass notes not being totaly there..But overall not bad.
Thx having been waiting for these..keep em up
As a dealer I am glad that we finally have a product that doesnt end up on Amazon. I sell the product at MAP. Which is $399.00 . Most of the other products on Amazon are sold for less than my dealer cost . I get numerous people asking if I can match Amazon like no I can. And I cant even buy it for what they sell it shipped from Brazil. So keep in mind about the only dealers can sell, it helps us small business guys that cant afford 200k purchases from the factory. I enjoy your videos and appreciate what you do on your channel.
@wal
5 жыл бұрын
I’m afraid the model for most people nowadays is to buy wherever they can for the cheapest price. I have other comments, but we talked about this in length on a recent 12V Talk Podcast. I appreciate your comments and feedback 🤙
I have the Sony XM-C2000 6-channel amp, do you have one to test or know the actual power on this old school amp ?? is this amp worth instaling today in a SQ setup?
with the high voltage caps inside that convert the power into 3k, would the inputs terminal be sufficient? or would the amp draw be the reason? thanks and love the vids!
I noticed that you said It didn't have a lot of woofer control with tight bass? so would it be better to run this amp I'm combination with other amps? two on that amp. and a more controlled amp on more subs? what size speakers would you say the best low frequency would respond to?
Another super video 👍👍 I know what I see and understand new technology. But I still cannot for the life of me wrap my head around the output numbers vs the gut shots. What guts lol there's not a lot in there to be putting out that much power. What was there like 6 output devices ?
What are you doing with the Infinty when the new subwoofer comes in?
Very good review on this amp!! Thanks!! Do you think the taramps hv40000 chipeo amplifier 40K..can pass the test?
So which do I run this to my 2 2 ohm auduiopipe bd’s ?? I have an extra battery and I’m gonna do the big 3 upgrade, Will I still need more power ?
Hey Big D , I love your videos , I checked on Amazon right after I watched this , and yes you can order one of these and almost any of this brand .. If I order one and run it 2ohm , what do you think I need to do so it would have the power it needs to be ok ?? ( cap, extra battery , upgraded alt , everything ???) Thank You .....keep the videos coming ....
Thanks for such a informative review of this amplifier. I'm not new to car audio but was unfamiliar with this brand of amps. I'm planning on running this Tara amp for home theater on 2 -12 " subs in separate sealed boxes with a Ac to DC power converter. Do you think the Power Max 120 amp converter is enough to safely power the tara amp 3000k? Keep the great videos coming.
Hey Big D, from all the Brazilian amps, which brand did you like most? Great review on that video!
Goodnight williston audio are any of the taramps good and is stetsom better or should i look for something else but looking for a 3k watts for db drive g2 10
Awesome video. Thanks you helping us out a lot.
Some please help....I bought 2 12 inch scar vxf 4ohm subs .they are rated 1500 watts rms each. Which amp would you recommended I get?
Bid D can you try replacing the thermal compound on the heatsinks to see if it makes a difference?
Thanks for another good one! Any chance for the HD10k?
Hi can I use this amplifier to run 3 pioneer 3004SPL which is 1000 watt rms each, it will be about 0.8 ohms.
So can I wire a dvc 2 ohm q class 15 to a final 4 ohm and get good power ? It's only rated 600 to 1200 sub
Another awesome review. Thanks Big wiz. I'd be curious to find out the technical reasons behind why the dynamic tests results were so low. I would be interested to hear how it does on transients as well since you mentioned it not offering great woofer control, especially on punchier notes.
@wal
5 жыл бұрын
I don't think the two are directly related but I could be wrong. The woofer control is a bit odd, but I have experienced this with other Brazilian style class D amps in the past. It will be interesting to give it a week in my daily driver to see if it's noticeable in the real world.
@Fly2kill1
5 жыл бұрын
The closer all the numbers are on all three test the better. It means it doesn’t get to 10% THD before clipping. All higher quality amps are close.
@RealCapricousCavy
5 жыл бұрын
You can hear it's sloppiness over a home stereo when it's trying to keep up with the track. It's muddying up the sound. Whatever built-in low pass they are using, is probably partly at fault. It's littered with cheap components too.
@Widowmaker2828
4 жыл бұрын
@@wal I am surprised to hear it doesn't do well for you when all the Brazilian music is short punchy bass! All the videos of the truck in Brazil running Taramps amplifiers seem to hit the short bass beats out of the park. But then again they all have those odd bass reflex cabinets with the 4 corner ports. Make me wonder if its your box?
Hey, If I turn the gain down to put out about 1500watts will I need a better charging sistom
I liked those dynamic numbers. The amp didn’t go to 10% THD before clipping. 1% and clipping are close. Most good amps are like this.
At 11:20 whats the name of the tool head needed to install the +/-wires.) thanks!
For the last few years I'd often see comments that said Taramps were cheap as in quality and they catch on fire. LOL, I bought an hd3000 used it for 3 months and no issues. Now I have a smart 3 and whoa mfkr rocks!
Big,D I love your videos and your knowledge all most everything you've talked about, but the 4 gauge thing is not a problem. The distance the 4 gauge is going won't cause loss it would be the same amount of loss that a fuse connection has. The other thing is if you look at the guts of the amp the power that comes from the outside is tremendously larger then what enters the amp enters the amp bored at the hand off between the outside power wire and the inside wire they transition over to a very small gauge at the board. Love your channel and videos
i have dual 1.5 speaker so how can the wattage be in 3 ohms ??
Whats the difference between a 3000k and the 3000MD which would push out more bass
Have you done a video where you take apart the bass amp and look at the terminals?
Would a extra battery be sufficient for this or would you need to go with a high powered alternator?
Does anyone know where I can buy this reducer that’s shown in this video ?
Liked it before I even watched it, awesome
@wal
5 жыл бұрын
I loved this comment before I read it 😜
So at 2ohm its putting out 1811 rms or only watts? If its only watts then at 2ohm what would be the rms rating?
Cerwin vega stroker pro 3100.1 please.... haven't seen you dyno any cerwin vega yet
Wilson audio labs what do you think about running this amplifier at half an ohm, and I would highly appreciate if you were to put it on the dyno on half ohm
So what one is a better subwoofer amp. As far as the internals are.
BigD! I think we all agree and understand the need for larger input terminals but I have to ask where you are measuring the voltage at? Is it measured through the probes stabbed into the side of the 1/0 wire? The voltage at that point should be greater than the voltage after the bottleneck of the 1/0 to 4 adapters. Methinks you may have a battery or two with some weak cells that are failing under load?? Just a theory. Doesn't make any difference to me I have not approved of these amps since the beginning and I probably never will. Sorry Brazil :(
Não entendi nada que você falou, só queria saber se você gostou do amplificador e se recomendaria ele
I have 2 12'' 600 Watts each Alpine should i used the Taramp's bass 3k or the Taramp's HD 3000 ? btw i might upgrade my subs soon what would you guys recommend me ? i would appreciated your help !.
Tyvm for all the tests you do Big D..Huge help! 🍺
i cant wait to you recieve the SUB AND BOX FROM.US . UR GOIN TOO.LOVE IT
Could the terminal situation most likely be because in Brazil the big systems that you find are all pro audio? The don’t use car subwoofers... they use Dj speakers like rcf, b&c, and ev...
Why not throw a couple 16 volts in parallel with your bank as well to keep the voltage up around 14.5-15 volts during heavy tests? And just charge them separately while not in use. Maybe have a heavy duty switch/breaker between the main bank and the 16s so you don’t have to unstrap them every time you need to charge or when their not needed for a test.
I have a 2000 Honda accord with two batteries in it I just bought the Tara 3000 not the new 3K how am I gonna do with my rock songs with the base I love rap music too but what about my rock songs and do I need to upgrade at a battery kept my two batteries I’m already running or a new alternator? This is cripple Cory out.
Big D...i need your opinion..am about to buy a 3k taramps amp but am into the smart 3k...md 3000.1 and the bass 3k...u could help me if u give me some advices...keep up💪
I'm getting the HD 3k I can't wait
What % of car audio systems can keep voltage at 14.4 so why do most companies use that as the standard most vehicles drop down into the mid 13. Voltz ?
Any MD models to test soon? Or bass 5k or 8k?
It's about time I see this video because those apps keep popping up on My wish app. Great job with that. I'm borrowing two other thumbs for👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Please try out the Helix G ONE sub amp. I have my suspicions.
The "Bass" version I belive is a half bridge output while the HD version is most definitely a full bridge amplifier. Look at the difference between the transfomrers of the two. The HD only had 2 wires from the transformer while the Bass version has 3 of them (it's a center tap secondary on the transformer since it is a halfbridge amp). Also the caps in the bass version were half the voltage (HD : 2200uf @ 200 vdc while the Bass version has 2 2200 uf caps @ only 100 vdc each)
So what are the results of the hd3000?
I own 4 old school us 2000x I was wondering power they pump out and I am up for selling them if you know anyone??
loved Oldschool stereo! the logo, the name, the idea. have no clue what williston audio labs is, as it was never explained. love your channel long time. just prefer one over the other. i dont know, is it an affiliateof yours
@Asstronut
3 жыл бұрын
Thats his channel name
Really need you to dyno the Dayton spa 1200 dsp plate amp. I gotta find the right amp to power my Rockford fosgate T2 15" 4ohm 1200 watt rms 2400 watt max. Pulled it straight out of my buddies car and I want it for my home theater! Thanks!
Well which is better the HD series or the MD series??
Everybody's saying they're no good well hell I damn sure appreciate one
Gotta love taramps
I found that having more batteries is a must over 3k. Last week I had two group 31 yellow optimas, friday I upgraded to 4 group 31 yellows and a starting battery. Sounds way better and my lights aren't dimming anymore
@liveyourbestlife3785
5 жыл бұрын
Although it is now noticable from the outside that I have something in the trunk, suspention sag is real
@bobbyb9263
2 жыл бұрын
Considering replacing those AGMs with Lithium, if you haven’t done so already.
What about the Taramps trio You did the smart 3 and the 3k Bass
What amp do recommend for 4 skar 8 evl's at 1 ohm
Any ideas what this would do at 2.6 ohm
Great vid as always , still scratching my head as to why it around 100 bucks more and less efficient than the hd 3k. If I had to buy one I would buy the hd even though it isn't specifically made for low hz frequency.
@Bigldagreat1
4 жыл бұрын
Because the bass series is .5 stable
@Widowmaker2828
4 жыл бұрын
@@Bigldagreat1 This is a myth. Please show me something in writing from Taramps the states this. I know there is a dealer out there that claims this but remember he is a salesman and will tell you anything you want to hear. While you might get away with running it at half an ohm for a while... It is definitely not recommend. If you want more power just buy the next bigger amp. They are cheap enough :)
@Bigldagreat1
4 жыл бұрын
@@Widowmaker2828 i follow taramps on Instagram and that's what they said i didn't understand the language but it definitely sounded like he said. 5 so I bought the bass 8k an been running two of them at .5 since December now
@Widowmaker2828
4 жыл бұрын
@@Bigldagreat1 That's awesome to hear. You must have excellent electrical. But please do not bash Taramps when you fry your amps. I have the MD8000 and it clearly states that 1 ohm is the minimum impedance. (Same with my Bass 30K and the Bass 8K) I just get frustrated hearing everyone bash Taramps when they burn them up by not following the manufacturers recommendations. My suggestion to others is if you want more power don't wire down, just buy the next bigger amp. They are cheap enough! Headroom is where it's at.
What’s up with the low dynamic power??? , that’s were all your punch is , I never saw an amp that had lower dynamic power than certified??? Your awesome big D
What about Powerus amps what do you think about them
Any dyno info on a audiopipe apmi1300 1000 watt
Hey can you try the deaf bonce apocalypse aab500.4d it's a Brazilian board from Alphard audio
Yesss, thanx allot! Just what i was looking for. The others are in BraZilian :S
hey big D, i noticed you never got around to doing the taramps 8k dyno, did the lithium not go as planned? would love to see the video of the 8k
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
I have a bad lithium cell and haven’t taken the time to analyze
hi just a ? what crossover and equalizer do you recommend on you to use with taramp bass 3k
@wal
2 жыл бұрын
You need a system designer to assist based on all of your components and your goals. No simple answer here
Love the Ice Cube sound bite lol
So this amp would run the new American bass half 12's??
Are you in Williston ND?
my 2x150w amps have 4 gauge, this really needs more, most I'd want on 4 gauge would be 100A unless its a short run, 1/0 would suit this amp well
Hey Big D can you test the stetsom EQ3000 I am thinking if purchasing one but want to know if it's worth buying
@edgardoeliashandal586
5 жыл бұрын
Luke Moore Stetsom is really good! I love it
good on them for making the better amp for the dealers.
I've been running the new bass3 k for a couple weeks after removing my two Banda 3k but we'll be adding two more power-hungry subs this week but even 3 AGM batteries isn't going to be enough for a bass3k and Banda 3k lol
Great job as usual sir! What are your thoughts on the Mmats 3k as far as efficiency?
@wal
5 жыл бұрын
Never tried one out so I cannot comment
@572012myo
5 жыл бұрын
@@wal thanks for the response. I think they pioneered class D technology.
O Brasil tem os melhores modulo do mundo aqui o grave é brutal
Hey sir Quick question how come some taramps are dark gray and some are white but there wattage is the Exact same... are they Two different models or what?
@suthtokcraew1227
3 жыл бұрын
dark for old model and silver for newer model
It's like the put that board in a different smaller amps chassis and slapped new stickers on it, which is probably exactly what they did.. I'm still staying away from Brazilian bass amps, I may use one for mids & highs someday, but how is the sound quality on there full range amps? I currently run a deaf bonce 200.4d and would like an CLASS AB amp sometime maybe even the deaf bonce 180.4ab I just want quality sound from my mids
@williamnixon4056
5 жыл бұрын
Old school is the way to go.
Can this amp power 4 15” subs?
Amazing that through a 4 gauge input it can still produce that much power. That thing is sucking a shake through a coffee strirring straw. Big D, Good thing you had the banks right on the other side of the door. That thing wouldn't be able to produce that power in a car, for very long. For real, run 4 gauge from front to back and see how fast it heats up LOL. Taramps hard to beat for the buck. Keep them coming, D 👍
@Str8GasGenetics
5 жыл бұрын
Just run a reducer and it'll be fine
Hey Big D, I'm sure you get many requests but if you wouldn't mind testing a Hifonics ZXX series amp I'd love too see a video on it. I bought a BRX 3016.1 based off of your review of it and am now looking at something for a bunch of 6.5 coaxials I'd like to install. Their 2k ZXX was about 120 on Amazon which is a lot of power for the price. I'm wondering if it would still be real because hifonics seems to be a good brand, but that is almost too good to be true. Even hearing your thoughts would be and honor, or if anyone else reading this has an opinion I'd appreciate a response.
That's a nice video. But except talking only about power, I really wonder what is the difference betwin Soundigital 3K and a Taramps 3K...? Are they able to replace a class AB amplifier? At this level of power it is impossible? What about noise ratio?
@wal
5 жыл бұрын
This is a great question and one I hope I’m able to determine after some in car tests with a dozen or so different amps (Class D, full bridge and A/B)
quick question, if i were to supply a subwoofer 300 watts rms that’s only rated for 250 watts rms (but 500 max) would it harm the sub in any way?
@JTSUNLIMITED
5 жыл бұрын
PurpleSkunkYT no
Hello boss. you are the best in this specialty! Keep up the good work. Can you help us at 0.8 ohms this Brazilian. Let's not hesitate any more about this! Greetings from the fans from Bulgaria!
So which one is better?