As a Swiss, I'm pretty neutral about this presentation. But I feel the tendencies to really like the way it is presented.

@justsomebloke6784

3 жыл бұрын

As I am only half Swiss, I definitely liked some bits of it. I am forced to comment because I cannot in all honestly 'like' your comment as an accurate response would be to say I laughed when I read your comment, (That was the English half.)

@EzraeL91

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty neutral eh? You are a true Swiss!

@somethingelse516

2 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment

@samholdsworth3957

2 жыл бұрын

Hey just stand there and do nothing. Looking at you Sweden!

@eddie_23

10 ай бұрын

Yeah I'm quite neutral too but the flag's a big plus

One little known fact about the " Swiss Army Tank ". On the rear of the left sponson there is a tiny slot where a very small Tweezers is stored. On the rear of the right sponson there is a tiny slot where a very small Toothpick is stored.

@Alakazzam09

3 жыл бұрын

Cheeky bugger =)

@MrHws5mp

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the engineer version has a screwdriver with a spiral groove on the handle that fits into the rifling in the gun barrel too...

@DJAvren

3 жыл бұрын

Very useful to have a toothpick close at hand, but a hell of a job to pick the tank up to try to pick that bit of fondue out of your back teeth.

@badmutherfunster

3 жыл бұрын

And I believe there is a co ax nail file😆

@sofafernsehfan

3 жыл бұрын

The use of the tin opener in close combat is part of basic training. But only the officers version is equipped with a cork screw.

4:05 I think it was really nice of Sweden to allow the Swiss to build their own tank

@tm5123

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the Swedes sure are nice blokes :D

@Vretens

3 жыл бұрын

@@tm5123, yeah, we sure are. 🍻

@NicoNyon

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vretens As a swiss, i thank you!

@gianurwiler5098

2 жыл бұрын

Sweden is our Friend ;D

@zeke2408

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vretens nice

4:04 i think he misspoke there, because i doubt that the swiss federal arms factory in Thun needed the go-ahead from the swedish government

@jounisuninen

3 жыл бұрын

So he really said Swedish and not Swiss. I thought I heard wrong ...

@JayR-zu6yv

3 жыл бұрын

What an American thing to do... but apart from this a great presentation

@bjorn301

3 жыл бұрын

It may have been unnecessary, but the Swedes gave their permission, you can never have to much redundancy.

@teaser6089

3 жыл бұрын

@@bjorn301 No that would be stupid, why would the Swedish government task the Swiss to build a tank. I doubt the Swedish knew what the Swiss were building. Also the Wiki states that the Swiss parlement gave the go a head to build 150 tanks, not the Swedish one.

@bjorn301

3 жыл бұрын

@@teaser6089 yes it would be stupid, I was trying to make a funny, a bit of levity if you will, a minor application of humour as it were

If both sides are questioning your neutrality you've probably got it balanced correctly!

@Bird_Dog00

3 жыл бұрын

Yea. That goes along the same lines as the old saying: "A good compromise is reached when all sides are equaly pissed."

@jerryjeromehawkins1712

3 жыл бұрын

My uncle after his divorce years ago... "my ex wife and myself were unbelievably mad after the judge made his decision. The Judge then said... You're both angry? Good! That means my decision was fair." 😅

@ramona14220

3 жыл бұрын

The USAF and the Luftwaffe both bombed the Swiss "by mistake". The Swiss also sent up planes to dogfight both of them.

@Bird_Dog00

3 жыл бұрын

@@ramona14220 I know of the USAAF bombing Schafhausen - and afaik also Basel - by accident. But I haven't heard of the Luftwaffe successfully bombing targets in switzerland.

@panderson9561

3 жыл бұрын

Both sides used Switzerland for their own purposes. Germans got spies out of Germany by first sending them through Switzerland, then to Spain, then Portugal, then to whichever Allied country they were destined for. Allies did used pretty much the same route, only in reverse.

I own a Swiss military vehicle, myself. It's an Ordonnanzfahrrad 05, a military bicycle. I was given that by a young lady I was very close with at that time. She is a citizen of Switzerland and bought it for me from a Swiss army surplus store. It's a bit heavy, not very comfortable, but it's really strong and rolls silently with very little effort. And since the word for chain and for track are the same in German (Kette) I can half-jokingly say _Ich besitze ein Kettenfahrzeug der Schweizer Armee._

@radi0w4ve

3 жыл бұрын

I wett das ou chönne säge 😂

@TheTrueNorth11

2 жыл бұрын

Very cool. I’ve always wanted a Swiss Military bicycle.

@vampire4312

2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the infamous swiss military bicycle, with it's 3 gears: driving, walking and carrying.

@andrebartels1690

2 жыл бұрын

@@vampire4312 my Militärvelo seems to be broken though. Driving and walking works perfectly, but carrying always stops after a few seconds 😆

@andrebartels1690

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheTrueNorth11 if you get to buy one, just one little advice: Make sure the tyres are okay, because these are not normal bicycle tyres. They have clinger tyres which are hard to get since they went out of production in the mid nineties. It should be Maloya Pilot brand ones. And make sure you keep them well inflated, between 2 and 3 bar. Every other spare part is accessible, but tyres are getting rare. The only way around this is to install other rims with a modern tyre size and flange, but that's kind of cheating 😉

Fascinating to see examples of armoured vehicles from non "traditional" tank producing nations. Keep it coming...…..

@Masada1911

3 жыл бұрын

S-Tanks is a great example of that too

@loganblanton843

3 жыл бұрын

Except for the fire controls and heater are on the same circuit. Which is where the Pz.68 comes in

I honestly don't know any legit reason why someone would dislike this, unless they have no interest in tanks.

@jean-lucpicard5510

3 жыл бұрын

Because like me, we prefer Fletcher , not David Willey, who is a poor imitation.

@reinbeers5322

3 жыл бұрын

@@jean-lucpicard5510 tank is tank

@leonsphinx9652

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe they dont like the Swiss

@Imperium56

2 жыл бұрын

@@jean-lucpicard5510 that’s unfair. David Willey is a perfectly good presenter for these videos - if anything, I sometimes prefer him to Fletcher because he sometimes goes into greater depth - see his videos on T-54/55, T-62, T-64 and T-72

Is It just me who misses David's talks from his garden throwing Finns ball on a lovely sunny day?

@ABrit-bt6ce

3 жыл бұрын

Halcyon days.

@Scoobz187

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, i indeed miss Finn´s show, in which he politely includes David too.

A while ago I saw a comment about _armed_ neutrality that kinda stuck with me: _"If you cannot defend your neutrality then you're not considered neutral but harmless."_

"...snot-o-gram..." My new favourite term.

@gusgone4527

3 жыл бұрын

I like the OldEtonian's "Belgiumed." A timely reminder of what happens to countries who shrink their armed forces to the point of irrelevancy. HM Gov take heed. We are now well below that threshold in a very dangerous world.

@panderjitsinghvv8199

3 жыл бұрын

Knowing the Swiss I’m not at all surprised.

The problem with Panzer 68 was that we in switzerland were to late, the germans had the leopard 2 😅

@inisipisTV

3 жыл бұрын

Well, at least there's some nice jobs for Engineers to do for the meanwhile.

@ImWallace799

3 жыл бұрын

And Russia with the t64. And t62s. Neither Germany, Russia or Switzerland doing too shabby in the tank department

Bet this tank would make Swiss cheese out of the opposition... (I'm sorry I couldn't resist)

@reform-revolution

3 жыл бұрын

booooo

@SWBF2-2005IsBestStfu

3 жыл бұрын

@@reform-revolution fair

@bernardthedisappointedowl6938

3 жыл бұрын

@@SWBF2-2005IsBestStfu Don't take any notice Jack - they're just a bit cheesed off, ^oo^

@dynaflow666

3 жыл бұрын

What a cheesy comment! ;-)

@bernardthedisappointedowl6938

3 жыл бұрын

@@dynaflow666 There's Stiltons more when you think about them, ^oo^

Still kinda crazy how they have SO MANY tanks. They’ve been making videos for a long time and still prolly have hundreds of more tanks to cover!

@stc3145

3 жыл бұрын

And they could re-do some of the old and short videos

That low angle shot makes the main gun look like 70 feet.

@mebsrea

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a Swiss Army tank. The gun folds out.

@aleisterlavey9716

3 жыл бұрын

Switzerland has Mountains... and is small...it's for not accidentally overshooting the target XD

OK, let's get the obvious ones out of the way... ahem.... This tank has good mobility - if you can get it out of neutral. I've no idea where the bottle opener is, though.

@Wargunsfan

3 жыл бұрын

It's right next to the tea kettle.

@JohnSmith-pl2bk

3 жыл бұрын

Stop making that raclette ......

it's very aesthetically pleasing

There is an error in this presentation. The coincidence range finder in this tank was operated by the gunner, not the commander. While it was possible for the commander to lay and fire the gun, none of this was among his intended tasks in combat. However, he would use the range finder to range probable engagement points and fields of fire in preparation of ambush attacks from hull down positions, which was the main operational doctrine of this vehicle towards the end of its lifecycle. It's also noteworthy that the exhibit lacks the 71mm LYRAN illumination mortar on the turret roof, which was standard on all Panzer 61's. I served in this tank, first as gunner, then as commander, before being transferred to finish my career as section commander in the rank of first lieutenant in a Leopard II equipped battalion.

Well, Switzerland did have the French AMX-13 and various models of the British Centurion, labeled Pz 55 and Pz 57. I was fortunate to ride and fire with these, and also the Pz 68 and 87 ( Leopard 2)

This is one topic that still doesn't have a decent plastic kit, as far as I know

The Panzer 61 was used for the chassis for the Panzer III replicas built for the movie Enemy At The Gates.

10:55 Wait I know that place!!! We used to go roller skating there when we were kids bc the army didn't use the grounds on Sundays. Fun fact on that ridge just left of those houses are the targets for firing practice. A few years ago a negligent recruit caused an accidental discharge, sending rounds smashing through one of those houses on the ridgeline to the right. In through the window, out through the wall. Nobody was hurt apparently bc the owners were off working. Imagine the shock when they came home after a long day's work, only to find a window gone and a hole blown into the side of their house.

What a tanky looking tank. Nice.

never knew this tank existed, very interesting! thanks for the video!

Next tank chat is the Panzer 87 (swiss Leopard 2 version(RUAG)) and the swiss centurion tank 🤣

wew that crazy long barrel 20mm coax on the Pz58

Useful design. Very clean.

04:02 Nice of the swedish government to allow the swiss army to order tanks.

@ThatOneBouncedGT

3 жыл бұрын

what a blunder...

@demonprinces17

3 жыл бұрын

They do their banking

@praeceptor

3 жыл бұрын

Another proof that Sweden is a hidden superpower...

Today's my birthday, this video is my best present! 🎁

Love your videos your always full of youthful information

Great video and presentation love the tank museum I holidayed in Weymouth few year back and went there the army train around the back of the museum its good to Watch them 👍

This Swiss bomb shelter runs on tracks, and _doesn't_ have the usual apartment building sitting on top of it.

@stuckp1stuckp122

3 жыл бұрын

The Swiss bomb shelters all make excellent wine cellars. For this mobile bomb shelter can the ammunition racks hold wine bottles?

@JohnSmith-pl2bk

3 жыл бұрын

@@stuckp1stuckp122 I hate the Swiss penchant for 500ml bottles of wine....

Having Been in the Recently restaured Antique driving Simulator for this Tank Twice now, i can confirm that the steering is sensitive. Getting outta neutral is a bit Tricky often leading to me dropping the cluch hard :)

The Swiss have a much higher guns-per-person ratio than even the US. Yet without the gun crime. I have visited Switerland many times, the Swiss are lovely warm friendly people, but armed to the teeth. Don't go pick a fight there!

Thank you for making these !

listening to David is comforting

Great to see the master back at the helm, Mr Fletcher is fine for a very brief chat but for an in depth talk on why a vehicle was developed and how it was used, there's no comparison.

Cool looking tank! Compact and powerfully armed. Nice

I have a Swiss friend who was in the army (SP guns) when these were in use. He claims they weren't particularly well liked. Who knows, but they look badass and it's awesome that the Swiss made their own machine.

Marvellous stuff as always. By hillarious coincidence I only last night watched the Chieftains inside the hatch on the same vehicle but with the 80s upgrades.

Great Tank Chat folks! Keep 'em coming! I'd love to see you do one on the Sherman M4A2E8 or even the M548s you use for pleasure rides!

0:25 so glad you called this out David!

Consistently high quality video production with excellent educational value.

Interesting shapes on the cast hull. I might have to pick up the model from you and build one for my mini tank museum.

Kind of like an M48A5, but on a fitness routine.

Thank you David. That 105 mm gun really does get everywhere!

I love these tank chats, always learn something new=D

Thank you .

Great! Looking good DW💖

Wow Cool. Greetings from Switzerland

I don't have to go to a tank museum because every two years the tank museum comes to me in the form of a big outdoor event where all sorts of privately owned military vehicles turn up in a field nearby. Plus the Swiss army brings out its toys to play as well. Always like to go there, hopefully it won't be cancelled this year.

The Panzer68 was also used for (like you said) for the Brückenpanzer 68 (Bridgelaying tank) and Entpannungspanzer 65 (Pioneer-/recoverytank). Somme Chains and wheels of the Pz61 together with the Pz68 where used to build the Zielpanzer 68 (Targedtank) . 4 chassies where used to build 4 Prototypes of the 15,5-cm-Artillerie-Panzerkanone 68 (Artillerie tank, this one was tested by the swiss Military but not bought even it was NBC safe and had an automatic loading system, the Swiss Military bought insted the M109. Also two chassis of Pz68 where used for the Mobile Ground-Air Defense vehicle 35 mm Flab Panzer B22L. The swiss Military dident bought it. In facht K+W had already drawings for a Pz68 replacement, the Panzer 20000. But this project was closed down because it was cheaper to buy the Leopard2 from germany than build again a own tank from the scrach. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_2000 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fliegerabwehrpanzer_68 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerkanone_68 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zielfahrzeug_68 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entpannungspanzer_65 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Br%C3%BCckenpanzer_68

thank you

Excellent and interesting video

It has an interesting use of Belleville washers for suspension.

Actually had the chance to climb on top of one of these. Pretty cool tank.

thats a really good looking clean tank design,, and the swiss seem to have how many more tanks than we do thats crazy. i take it back having watched the chieftans video this is a claustrophobic nightmare tank ,, that gunner position omg

Interesting video, thanks :)

always good sir.

Would love to hear the Tank Museum thoughts about another swiss tank, the "Nahkampfkanone 2". You can actually see the Nahkpamfkanone 2 in the background behind the czech tank at 1:08.

@brittakriep2938

3 жыл бұрын

The Mampfkanone is in german army called ,Gulaschkanone' :-)

I actually think this is a very well made and thought out tank impressive 👏.

One of the difference between the pz 61 and pz 68/88 is the turret, the turret is slightly wider on the pz 68/88

You have any of those bridge layers around back of your museum? Be nice to have a close look at a vehicle like that occasionally.

nice video

Great! DW as excellent as ever💖

A surprisingly pretty tank. Not as drop dead gorgeous as the Leopard 1 or 1A5, but pretty none the less.

@viridisxiv766

3 жыл бұрын

its the `tank next door` type.

@jerryjeromehawkins1712

3 жыл бұрын

It's great how everyone here appreciates the "lines" certain armored vehicles have... making them look attractive while at the same time being deadly. Panther, Hellcat, T34, etc. Show my wife a picture of a tank?? She just doesn't get it, lol.

@Kyle-gw6qp

3 жыл бұрын

This looks like a T-55, but drawn by someone who was very, very drunk.

@theapostatejack8648

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kyle-gw6qp Nope it's was too tidy to be anything vaguely like a T55.

David Willey rocking the Hussar-looking pants!!

Very interesting.

David once again fantastic, would be able to share your thoughts on ongoing thank development or upgrade programs ? Based on the latest model and see where they are going ?

Very interesting presentation. I didn't know about until now. The Swiss government tried to hold the own heavy industries in the game the long they could. You see it also on the heavy trucks Saurer 6DM and 10DM. Absolutely gorgeous trucks! They were extremely expensive because the little numbers of production, but it was the last chance to safe Saurer company from bankruptcy. Sadly it doesn't worked. If you cannot sell enough outside the country you have a Problem with economy.

Very nice and informative Video! I have always been quite a fan of the Pz. 61 & 68, however speaking of neutral countries in the cold war, as an Austrian, I'd love to see a video about the "Kürassier" (Although I think the Museum does not possess one, which is quite sad)

I think the desire to support the local arms industry also played a part. I find this is true of many European arms procurements.

Out of all the countries the Soviets mapped, by far and away the most effort was placed on building up maps of Switzerland.

@JohnSmith-pl2bk

3 жыл бұрын

Most of these maps were marked, "Cyka Blyat, Nyet!"

4:00 Swiss government.

Can't have a parade without tanks.

Great!

One of the reasons why Switzerland went with the Lepard was the time and costs vs purchase a tank off-the-shelf (Did they rent the Lepard before buying a different mark of Lepard tank?), designing their own, or upgrading/repairing/remanufacture the Pz 68 were greatly showing their age and had a lot of issues esp when it came to the modern battlefield and the 105mm gun was not good enough

@Bird_Dog00

3 жыл бұрын

You are right about the thought process behind not designing their own PZ68 replacement. Too expensive for such a small military with little chances for export. The swiss army did indeed test vehicles before purchasing the Leo2. They got both a Leopard 2 and a M1 Abrams to compare the two systems in trials. Though I'm not 100% certain if they bought or rented them.

@QALibrary

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bird_Dog00 I got a book etc on the PZ tanks and the change over - I just need to find it again

Pzw 39s are not license-produced, although the Swiss did install their own engines and guns and prolly some other equipment like radios.

Did we forget the Swedish S Tank no turret! Just sloped armer and a barrel.

@johnharrison6745

3 жыл бұрын

They did a video on that one some four months ago. 👍

Pz.68 was mainly for export fixing things like heater and fire control on the same circuit and they almost sold some until the buyer found out they were trying to hide her faults

Well, we do love tanks indeed 😄

When the Panzer 68 first came out it had a bunch of bizarre issues....turning on the heater could set off the main gun and adjusting the radio volume would spin the turret around.

@menablubb442

3 жыл бұрын

Thats a feature to prevent the enemy from using captured tanks :P

@shi01

3 жыл бұрын

The "heater can fire the main gun" thing was a bit of a myth. There were some concerns this could happen, but there isn't a single case recorded were this did actually happen. When the media heard of this, they of course presented it in a way that everbody would believe this would happen every time the crew switches the heater on.

@HerrGausF

3 жыл бұрын

@@shi01 I read about this in an NZZ article. I expected them to do proper research. www.nzz.ch/schweiz/der-pannenpanzer-aus-der-schweiz-ld.1360466

Please tell me the main gun wasn't cut. I hope all the vehicles are fully operational. Like taking a vintage Colt or Holland and Holland and cutting up a great piece of history.

In Saumur there is a swiss military bicycle with a big lable on it that states that it was gifted to one of the anniverseries of the museeum (I'm not 100% sure) either by the swiss army or the goverment. :D which I find neat

This chap is so much better than the other chap.

Very reminiscent of the Soviet T-62 with the cast turret and general profile.

If there is any country to go for a fixed turret tank destroyer, it's switzerland imo. in a defending role in hillsides or mountains, would'nt it be much better to have a huge gun on a low profile and mobile basis to engage from a position and make the way out fast, even going uphill or along rough terrain?

Is this the panzer with the Belleville washer suspension, similar to the planned E-series tanks?

@Bird_Dog00

3 жыл бұрын

Yes.

The beauty of this tank is the ability for it to be assembled from a convenient flip-out box. . .

I wonder if - aside from the sensitive steering - there are other peculiarities the Swiss tank has for operating in the Alps. I know the South-Korean K1, K1A1, K2 and Japanese tanks all seek higher than average gun elevation (and depression) angles with the help of hydropneumatic suspension and would think the Swiss armywould seek the same capabilities or was this too advanced for the time of the pz61?

What about the Pz.58, is it just an earlier version of this?

Powerpack swap time always gets mentioned. It would be awesome if you could do a video showing us exactly what it looks like to do. How long does each step take? how many men? what equipment. Thanks.

@mbr5742

3 жыл бұрын

Engineering tank/crane is needed

@thomasmusso1147

3 жыл бұрын

First Step .. take out your Military Issue Swiss Army Knife ..

@TheTejanoJose

3 жыл бұрын

@@thomasmusso1147 There aren't any Swiss military issued Swiss Army Knives. Swiss army members are issued with soldiers knife 61 or 08. The Swiss Army Knife is the version to be sold to tourists. :-)

I am disappointed that no mention was made, in the video, of the Pz. 61's unusual belleville washer suspension.

Wish he discussed the pros and cons of it’s unusual suspension system

1:18 I couldn't imagine having to take a Hetzer into combat in 1970...and face a T-62/64. You wouldn't stand a chance.

@AKUJIVALDO

3 жыл бұрын

LOL, what a noob. Use brains before using game logic. Sides and rear armour is a fair game for Hetzer, assuming Germans didn't invented anything after 43...

IMO, the Panzer 61 and Panzer 68 is like a mixture of the M4 Sherman and M60 Patton. P.S. to differentiate between Panzer 61 and Panzer 68 tanks; is to look at the upper front wheels in the tracks.

@Bird_Dog00

3 жыл бұрын

There is actually an easier way to tell them apart: Loot at the housings for the coincidence rangefinder. If they look like bolted on boxes of sheet metall, it's a 61. If they look like they're a part of the turret cast, it's a 68.

@jellypishy22

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bird_Dog00 It's also used on the Panzer 68/75 and 68/88 variants called the "Grosser Turm" which stands for "Big Turret" in German.

I always thought they used a modified Centurion chassis for the panzer 68

I'll presume licence building of the Centurion wasn't an option back when they wanted to buy them, but couldn't?

The Mutz!

I'm curious as to just what the hell is the tank behind him to the left when he's talking infront of the tank.