Tandy TRS-80 Model 4D computer overview & software

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A look at the final member of the Radio Shack TRS-80 series of computers, the Tandy Model 4D, sold from 1985 until at least 1990 (possibly even later). Its unique all-in-one form factor was a favorite of schools and businesses. The inclusion of Deskmate also made it one of the first computers to come with e-mail capability!

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  • @billv4987
    @billv49873 жыл бұрын

    The sound capabilities of this machine actually exceeded my expectations.

  • @undeadelite
    @undeadelite9 жыл бұрын

    3:45 "...being very careful".....bang

  • @tieline1333

    @tieline1333

    5 жыл бұрын

    Was just going to post this!

  • @InsanePsychoRabbit
    @InsanePsychoRabbit6 жыл бұрын

    WARNING: DO NOT watch this video while half-asleep. VWestlife's soothing voice will ensure you drift off, and then you WILL be awakened by the loud blaring Frogger music and it WILL scare the piss out of you.

  • @mrlocalhost-is5ke

    @mrlocalhost-is5ke

    5 жыл бұрын

    XD

  • @miked4377

    @miked4377

    5 жыл бұрын

    very true

  • @zeddie4153

    @zeddie4153

    3 жыл бұрын

    Holy hell xD This just happened to me.

  • @rbanister100
    @rbanister1004 жыл бұрын

    I started my computer journey back in 1981, on the Color Computer 1, 16K RAM, but I upgraded it to 64K RAM, and also had the Model 4P. I remember all you have in your video VERY WELL, and brings back lots of memories. Thanks for sharing. Enjoyed the walk down memory lane.

  • @zestydude87
    @zestydude8710 жыл бұрын

    Takes me back to my high school days... gotta love the 80s

  • @StevesCraziness

    @StevesCraziness

    4 жыл бұрын

    This was my first computer! I used it for basic.

  • @edstar83

    @edstar83

    4 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/hGisyJdpkbjekag.html

  • @laranitasantana
    @laranitasantana2 жыл бұрын

    In 1985 I got mine with Cobol and Pascal compiler and Visical spreadsheet software. Later added an external 15 megabytes hard drive. Wrote some business programs for our familiy business. A very reliable machine

  • @jackilynpyzocha662

    @jackilynpyzocha662

    Күн бұрын

    1992, RLX 1000, QBASIC!

  • @elhistoriero1227
    @elhistoriero12274 жыл бұрын

    What a good looking piece of hardware.

  • @idksomethingedgy2265
    @idksomethingedgy22656 жыл бұрын

    That computer looks beautiful

  • @CrplCon
    @CrplCon Жыл бұрын

    The first time I saw one of these was shortly after they came out. A friend of mine had one and was bragging on the word processing capabilities. I still laugh thinking of him showing me a VERY long paper he had written, more like a book, and demonstrating how easy it was for him to change all the letter A's to E. Immediately, he regretted doing so when he tried to change those E's back to A and found that EVERY E was changed! I guess he hadn't saved it yet and had to go through and proofread the entire thing, changing letters as needed. I don't think it would have occurred to him to restore a saved version even if he had done so. That PC captured my imagination from then on. I knew I would get one and eventually ended up with a TRS 80 color computer. Good times.

  • @BuhdaPunk
    @BuhdaPunk4 жыл бұрын

    I remember buying a model 4P when they first hit the market. Ran a Wildcat BBS on that machine for almost 2 years. I ran CPM on a second machine and Montezuma MPM on a Altos running RBBS

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife11 жыл бұрын

    The C64 was a home computer designed for games. The TRS-80 Model 4 was a rugged workhorse designed for schools and businesses -- a completely different marketplace category. Schools did not like the C64 because it had too many wires to hook up, and was too easy to steal or knock on the floor.

  • @VenturiLife

    @VenturiLife

    Жыл бұрын

    I think the TRS-80's were heavily used at one point at US phone companies, probably in accounting departments etc.

  • @danieldougan269

    @danieldougan269

    Жыл бұрын

    I had a Tandy Color Computer 2 that was based on the TRS-80. It was pretty awful to use. The CoCo 3 was a significant improvement, but I never had one.

  • @npgtom
    @npgtom6 жыл бұрын

    I learned on one of these in high school back in like 85/86.

  • @ReviewTechUSA
    @ReviewTechUSA11 жыл бұрын

    holy crap you drew all those?!?!?! In basic?!?!?!

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife11 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to Blake J for being the first to correctly identify it in the preview video... sorry I forgot to mention that in the video!

  • @bobns509
    @bobns5096 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video about TRS 80 capabilities. Great Work!

  • @m4ttr4w3som3
    @m4ttr4w3som38 жыл бұрын

    I've always loved the way command driven user interfaces looked. I would love to own this computer or the original IBM PC cause it looks awesome.

  • @jgrant5255
    @jgrant52556 жыл бұрын

    This was a wonderful computer. I learned Basic programming on this. I got Online with this, Genie I believe. I accessed a few Bulletin board a if my memory serves me right.

  • @cyndicorinne
    @cyndicorinne Жыл бұрын

    I love your in-depth coverage of machines from around my childhood. The Frogger and Scarf-Man games on the Model 4 are surprisingly sophisticated. I especially like the way the developers of Frogger made crisp, almost vector-like graphics out of such low-resolution character building blocks. They must’ve used a good abstraction layer to avoid going crazy.

  • @trueopsimath
    @trueopsimath7 жыл бұрын

    Fun video. Early in my career I got a contract with a company that had three or four disparate PC's (all different brands), that included a TRS-80 model 4. This was in 1987 or so. I don't remember the details of what they wanted, but I do remember it involved writing a script for their communication software that would upload a comma-delimited file to some mainframe somewhere. I had never seen a TRS-80 model 4, but I found it easy and fun to work with.

  • @tracymerton609
    @tracymerton609 Жыл бұрын

    Good God man. This takes me back. I started learning on these in 1980. I actually worked in the micro computer lab. Thanks for posting.

  • @retrocjt
    @retrocjt7 жыл бұрын

    I just happen to own a TRS-80 model IV and this video was very helpful and I learned a good few things about my system! I also happen to own a copy of Scarfman for it, not that it matters very much the ghost character's eyes disappear whenever they are edible.

  • @prepperminded5732
    @prepperminded57324 жыл бұрын

    I used to work at Radio Shack back in the late 80's. I remember this unit sold for $999. lol

  • @unicornsnkittens
    @unicornsnkittens11 жыл бұрын

    I actually sat here and watched this in my yard in the middle of the night. I really enjoyed it.

  • @Saboteur709
    @Saboteur70911 жыл бұрын

    My first three computers were the Model 1, Model 1 Level 2, and Model 4. Thanks for taking me back. Good times!

  • @kj4daq
    @kj4daq8 жыл бұрын

    This model sold in India by DCM Data Products as DCM Tandy TRS 80 Model 4 from 1985 to 1990. Very stable and can be booted with TRSDOS or CPM+ Operating systems

  • @laranaarana
    @laranaarana5 жыл бұрын

    We used that model in all RS stores to run the daily sales reports and weekly orders. Sure brings back memories!

  • @tomknapp6194

    @tomknapp6194

    Жыл бұрын

    The Model I was originally limited to 3,500. Just in case it bombed, Tandy had that many RS stores that they could be use in. In the first year, RS sold 55,000, outselling Apple 5:1.

  • @DrShawqee
    @DrShawqee10 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed watching your video. I have Model 4P and is still working! My old programs still working too after all those years! I doubt it very much that any of new computers can last that long! Thank you for posting a such nice demonstration.

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife11 жыл бұрын

    Not by hand... I took the full-size cartoons and downscaled them to 128x48 monochrome BMP images on my PC, and then took the pixel data from the BMP files to create BASIC programs to draw them on the screen.

  • @ZILOGz80VIDEOS
    @ZILOGz80VIDEOS10 жыл бұрын

    I find it amazing that tandy still had these things around and a copy of LDOS coming out on it in 1991.

  • @WAQWBrentwood

    @WAQWBrentwood

    6 жыл бұрын

    Dec Both the Apple II and Commodore 64 likewise existed into the early 1990s! There was a large user base still around then before it all became Windows/Mac.

  • @IrishCarney

    @IrishCarney

    Жыл бұрын

    I find it more amazing that they didn't bother to upgrade it. By the late 80s they should have made the high-resolution graphics upgrade, the Orchestra 90, hard drive controller card, all included as standard. Plus add a speaker, make the lower drive be a hard disk, and make the upper drive slot either have two half-height 5¼" floppy drives or one half-height 5¼" and one 3½" drive. Instead they let it stagnate.

  • @3dprintwiz378
    @3dprintwiz3788 жыл бұрын

    Very Nice Vid man. I myself has used one of this machines back in my high school days. I'm old school as what this generation calls me, but I think having experience the earlier computer back in the days, makes me more appreciate the current technology. I make programmable robot arms now, by the way. Once again, thanks for bringing me back to the future.

  • @qbertguy
    @qbertguy Жыл бұрын

    Wow that art was awesome, you are talented

  • @gettingpast4391
    @gettingpast43914 жыл бұрын

    When we were C64 owners we mostly laughed at how bad these machines were compared to our Commodore 64's... but now I have two of them along with my C64's. They are not better in any way, but VERY cool in their own way.

  • @SeaJay_Oceans
    @SeaJay_Oceans Жыл бұрын

    Wonderfully well built, seriously solid and stable computing machine - not a toy !

  • @VectrexRoli
    @VectrexRoli11 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting review, I have never seen that machine in person. Thanks for uploading.

  • @RetroGamerVX
    @RetroGamerVX11 жыл бұрын

    Great review, not seen one done in that detail before, I was still with you after the deskmate ;o)

  • @wayneaaron5818
    @wayneaaron58189 жыл бұрын

    I love the video!! The Trs80 Model 4 was my first computer in high school.

  • @StevesCraziness

    @StevesCraziness

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mine too!

  • @amoesys
    @amoesys8 жыл бұрын

    I remember back in the day spending all my allowance playing frogger...man, I'm old...:D

  • @CRAZYHORSE19682003
    @CRAZYHORSE196820036 жыл бұрын

    Such fun memories, I remember learning basic on one of these machines in school.

  • @seanshay6573
    @seanshay6573 Жыл бұрын

    the instruction set was very well made

  • @AbovtheBSproductions
    @AbovtheBSproductions11 жыл бұрын

    This was wayyyy before my time, but very cool! Thanks for sharing.

  • @THOMASSU63
    @THOMASSU6311 жыл бұрын

    Awesome overview of that cool machine. It's fascinating to see what they could do with just character graphics. This machine reminds me of the computer used in my school years back in Sweden. It was called ABC80 and was also based on the Z80. But it did have a graphics mode; very low res though and mono. But it also had some terrific games, like Breakout and a PacMan clone called Glipp. It could be expanded to use CPM with a disk system hooked up to it. Later models came with built in drives.

  • @TheRealDanNguyen
    @TheRealDanNguyen6 жыл бұрын

    My first computer

  • @rick420buzz
    @rick420buzz9 жыл бұрын

    Edible ghosts have their eyes closed, inedibles have open eyes.

  • @100Underscores
    @100Underscores5 жыл бұрын

    You help me sleep. I love your voice. So does my wife. Please never stop making videos

  • @charly80years
    @charly80years8 жыл бұрын

    thanks ... fue como volver en el tiempo !! esto que hiciste es parte de la historia y leyenda de las computadoras ... gracias ...

  • @ian_b
    @ian_b3 жыл бұрын

    My earliest computer memory is the TRS80 in the window of the Tandy shop, running the Dancing Demon. It was before I even knew personal, let alone "home" computers were a thing. I just remember looking at this computer and thinking how incredible it was to see a computer in the flesh.

  • @TheCRTman
    @TheCRTman11 жыл бұрын

    This computer looks so freaking awesome!

  • @HughOBrien
    @HughOBrien11 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for posting, this was very interesting.

  • @gerrycrisostomo6571
    @gerrycrisostomo65713 жыл бұрын

    The Deskmate is awesome! It's like having Microsoft Office in the early days of personal computing.

  • @Raptor50aus
    @Raptor50aus3 жыл бұрын

    I started doing work experience in 1983 at my local Tandy shop and then working there till 1990 and sold alot of the trash 80 computers. Was great times !!

  • @sci3ntologist
    @sci3ntologist8 жыл бұрын

    I love these old Tandys, my first computers were a coco2, coco3 and a 1000hd. They were given to me a kid.

  • @captainmoore5835
    @captainmoore58355 жыл бұрын

    Oh the memories when I had one of these

  • @spidergloo2708
    @spidergloo27088 жыл бұрын

    looks like a terminal computer of Fallout 4

  • @harmonic5107

    @harmonic5107

    6 жыл бұрын

    DepressionTV exactly the reason I picked mine up, just a little bit of plastic in the right places and some paint. It's perfect. Sadly the one I found wasn't functional other than the logo, but it's good enough. I've heard that you can use a rasbery pi with the screen and keyboard though, that would be epic!

  • @TheRosemontag
    @TheRosemontag8 жыл бұрын

    13:08 that processor sound......I love it!!

  • @BlakeGJ
    @BlakeGJ11 жыл бұрын

    I think I'll get over it;) Don't break the seal! This brought back fond memories and renewed my search for one.

  • @amdintelxsniperx
    @amdintelxsniperx9 жыл бұрын

    i do like these old units i still would love to have one :)

  • @MarcoZ1ITA1
    @MarcoZ1ITA111 жыл бұрын

    Now that would be a useful showpiece!

  • @LemonChieff
    @LemonChieff8 жыл бұрын

    Pretty impressive what you can do with this system :o

  • @markwiygul6356
    @markwiygul63565 жыл бұрын

    This is the DEFINITIVE Computer Style, all One Unit: keyboard, monitor, computer and drives. In the early 80s, if someone mentioned the word "computer" this is what I visualized. And with a phosphorous green monochrome monitor. I remember at my Dad's office, in the 80s, they got a Tandy 1000(?) and I saw it, with a detached keyboard, detached monitor, and this BOX !! It did Not look like what I thought a computer would look like. It looked odd, bizarre, weird, and Not Cool. To this day, I still like the Design of These TRS-80 computers. That's they way they are supposed to be. That's a COMPUTER !! :-)

  • @DappieKS80
    @DappieKS809 жыл бұрын

    I was just given a trs80 coco. It was erratic ,till I lifted and reset the socketed IC's. I felt bad breaking the warranty sticker to open her up, but now she works great! I love an easy fix!! Under the top shell, was scribbled a name and date from '82! Quality control, I guess?

  • @JarOfRats

    @JarOfRats

    8 жыл бұрын

    +DappieKS80 I got a 16k Coco for Christmas in 1982. The next Summer, I'd replaced the "chiclet" keyboard with a real computer keyboard, got Extended BASIC, and upped the RAM to 64k... and that was back when Radio Shack claimed it could only go to 32k. My only issue was it tended to run a little warm. Aftermarket side-mounted cooling fans were expensive, so I ended up setting a tray of ice cubes on the top of the case. Ahh, the 80s...

  • @karlsonkab51
    @karlsonkab519 жыл бұрын

    very interesting - for continuing the life of the machine, roughly how many capacitors would have to be replaced? are they mainly in the power supply?

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife11 жыл бұрын

    I like how the TRS-80 DOSes will automatically search all drives for a file or program. If you want a specific drive you can add the :0 or :1, but you don't need to. And wildcards are automatic, too; typing "DIR UXW" will list all files beginning with UXW, on all drives. It also supports password protection for both individual files and an entire disk. There is no fan, and since the cassette output can do polyphonic music, it's quite flexible!

  • @ddostesting
    @ddostesting8 жыл бұрын

    I was in grade 3 or 4 when I was programming graphics on these!

  • @user-lb8do4ew6k

    @user-lb8do4ew6k

    7 жыл бұрын

    me too

  • @thesamon123
    @thesamon12310 жыл бұрын

    I was about to ask what the random music was all about, then I remembered about your 24/7 jukebox :P

  • @LarryRobinsonintothefog
    @LarryRobinsonintothefog5 ай бұрын

    Awesome, owned a Model-4 but never heard of the Model-4D. Though Deskmate was only on the Model-1000, but guess this was the precursor. Had a Model-1 version of Scarfman, guess I ordered out of a computer magazine (cassette at that). Thanks for the video.

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife9 жыл бұрын

    sluggotg Please fix your Google+ settings so people can reply to your comments. I never claimed the TRS-80 Model III / 4 was the *first* all-in-one computer. And by the time the Model 4D came out, it was not aimed at consumers like the Atari and Amiga, it was aimed at schools and businesses, who preferred its fully integrated design for its security (no loose parts people could steal or knock on the floor) and ease of setup.

  • @harukatakahashi8822

    @harukatakahashi8822

    8 жыл бұрын

    I was born in 1991? back then they had a game called "Free Ski" and it had color and it's a classic, this computer is bad

  • @vwestlife

    @vwestlife

    8 жыл бұрын

    Haruka Takahashi You mean "SkiFree" and arguing that a 1985 TRS-80 is "bad" just because it can't play a Windows game from 1991 is like arguing that a 2010 Nintendo Wii is "bad" today just because it can't play a new Sony PS4 game.

  • @filipmac1545

    @filipmac1545

    7 жыл бұрын

    so is this a kids computer

  • @rricci

    @rricci

    7 жыл бұрын

    The first TRS-80 Model I was not an all-in-ine design. The Model III, which came out in 1980 was.

  • @rricci

    @rricci

    7 жыл бұрын

    Most likely, Free Ski (which I never heard of) was for the Color Computer (CoCo which was a different beast that the Black and White computers. There was a color modification in, I believe Micro 80, but I have never seen this in operation.

  • @Somnivore7
    @Somnivore722 күн бұрын

    this was my first computer! I had the one button joystick as well

  • @codebeat4192
    @codebeat41928 жыл бұрын

    Nice video thanks, nice computer.

  • @mitch19636
    @mitch1963610 жыл бұрын

    I worked on these. Quality control at Mt Druitt Tandy warehouse / Head Office...

  • @AZEMBadlen
    @AZEMBadlen8 жыл бұрын

    That screen is so cool. I would like to have one for my ubuntu server :D

  • @phangfang
    @phangfang10 жыл бұрын

    Good review!

  • @cttv90108
    @cttv9010811 жыл бұрын

    At school we had a room full of model 3's that were networked to a master model 3 computer though the rs-232 port. pretty advanced for the time (1985).

  • @KillerCraftGamingPlus
    @KillerCraftGamingPlus8 жыл бұрын

    such an amazing machine

  • @alynicholls3230
    @alynicholls32305 жыл бұрын

    when i was in high school one of the lads had a few 8" disc drives, his dad worked at ICL and made him special cables so he could use one as a second drive, he could get 5" too which is the one he got me i got a kempston disk interface for xmas that year, and the drive he got me was streets ahead of the one that came with the interface, i could have got an 8" but they did not work out of the box and modifying a brand new disk interface was not allowed in our house, besides 8" blank disks were hard to find here even then. we thought those huge drives were the coolest things ever.

  • @miked4377
    @miked43775 жыл бұрын

    i like these all in one computers very nice . .

  • @soviet9922
    @soviet99225 жыл бұрын

    Very nice sound

  • @startotr
    @startotr7 жыл бұрын

    love that sound of the keyboard, similar to realforce 104uk hipro

  • @mcfuson37
    @mcfuson3711 жыл бұрын

    I've always wanted one of these. I've only seen 1 in person.

  • @myuu11
    @myuu118 жыл бұрын

    Really cool!

  • @tezzaNZ
    @tezzaNZ11 жыл бұрын

    There is something about an all-in-one green screen computer. I love them! Thanks for showing Deskmate. I'd read about it but had never seen it in action. I assume it needs the room afforded by the double sided drives for overlays, so won't work on my earlier Model 4 which has single sided drives?

  • @mr.nobody6829
    @mr.nobody68297 жыл бұрын

    The sound of that keyboard sounds really good, almost like Model F.

  • @jimb032
    @jimb0322 жыл бұрын

    I used to want one of those in the worlds worst way when I was young. In the end I got a Tandy Coco 2 then a 3 then a Tandy 1000.

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife11 жыл бұрын

    The floppy drive in my LTE isn't working either. Eventually I'll take it apart to see what model the drive is so I can try to find a replacement.

  • @RichardCyberPunk
    @RichardCyberPunk7 жыл бұрын

    If you work in model 4 mode (80 chars/line), are the blockgrafics then 160 blocks wide ?

  • @ghostrecon420
    @ghostrecon4208 жыл бұрын

    that's one sturdy pc never needed a repair

  • @310McQueen
    @310McQueen10 жыл бұрын

    For Model III I used to PEEK the keyboard for the arrow keys and use the input to SET the graphics points to draw. When the drawing was done you could PEEK the screen memory and save your graphics as text. The save file for a screen full of art was only 1K for (I think it was about) 164x48.

  • @fl0atpvnk

    @fl0atpvnk

    Жыл бұрын

    PEEK?

  • @Hellagoth654
    @Hellagoth65411 жыл бұрын

    Im not that old but this is where it all started and im glad I watched this video

  • @kifhurlbut
    @kifhurlbut Жыл бұрын

    I think a cover was an accessory for this unit, which partially explains toe odd yellowing situation.

  • @cambridgeport90
    @cambridgeport9011 жыл бұрын

    I remember something very much like that when I was in elementary school back in the '90's. I never appreciated these beauties until now when I'm looking at them as pieces of history. I recall the use of these computers for instance during a second grade math class. We used to have lab, and I was never able to participate because whatever computer was being used didn't have any text-to-speech software on it, and since I'm blind, without that, I'll not be able to do anything.

  • @prismstudios001
    @prismstudios0015 жыл бұрын

    I love my HP Pavillion 23 All in one.... Cool to see a really old PC with that concept.

  • @jordansmith6658
    @jordansmith66587 жыл бұрын

    I just found one and it works!!!

  • @sethhorst6158

    @sethhorst6158

    6 жыл бұрын

    I bet it was expensive.

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife11 жыл бұрын

    There were a few computers with a built-in cassette deck: the original Commodore PET, and the EACA Video Genie (a.k.a. Dick Smith System 80). And the Compucolor 8001 used 8-track tapes for data storage; they called it "Floppy Tape", but it was very rare, and reportedly only 25 of the Floppy Tape drives were ever sold.

  • @pimpingmrli
    @pimpingmrli9 жыл бұрын

    Is there a big homebrew games/software scene for this computer now?

  • @fantasticmrbond
    @fantasticmrbond10 жыл бұрын

    Mad frogger skills!

  • @williamwilliam9993
    @williamwilliam999313 күн бұрын

    Does will convert anime images to bitmap and then to trs-80 basic using 128x48 resolution?

  • @LaughingBear85
    @LaughingBear8510 жыл бұрын

    You're talented with those graphics on basic language coding.

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife11 жыл бұрын

    Yes.

  • @jarorelln4045
    @jarorelln40454 жыл бұрын

    I knew this model on my work, recently just this week.

  • @seanshay6573
    @seanshay6573 Жыл бұрын

    the z80 processor was in a class by itself

  • @pimpingmrli
    @pimpingmrli9 жыл бұрын

    I want one of these. 1st computer I ever used was an apple II or IIe (I can't remember). But they had one in almost all classrooms at school.

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