Talking Post: Kevin Rudd unpacks the risk of war between China and the US with Yonden Lhatoo
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Australia’s relations with China are at a new low after the formation of Aukus, a new security pact Canberra has made with the US and the UK - widely seen as an alliance to confront Beijing. In the second episode of Talking Post, SCMP chief news editor Yonden Lhatoo speaks with Kevin Rudd, former Australian prime minister and now head of the Asia Society global think tank. They discuss what Aukus means for the region and how it factors into the risk of war between China and a US-led Western alliance.
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What makes Rudd think Australia and other democracies have the right to define Human Rights? Mind your own business.
@springmustend4853
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh their definition of human rights is pretty standard stuff. What more do u want? Humans have no rights?
@snookie51
2 жыл бұрын
@@springmustend4853 The Chinese have more rights than people in many democracies. At least, they don't have to be homeless or go without food. Their poor even get free houses or otherwise highly subsidised. Their government don't give them a vote and do nothing when they become homeless and forced to live by the streets in tentages. If this is the human right you mean, it's a farce really. Human rights should guarantee decent living at the minimum. Stop bragging.
@springmustend4853
2 жыл бұрын
@@snookie51 and if you’re and ethnic monitory, they put you in a camp. Is that human rights? Did u even listen to what he said? Australia and America alone did not define what human rights is. The “universal declaration of human rights” was decided and signed by everyone. China has not eradicated poverty, they just lowered the bar for what counts as poverty. Countries like Taiwan and the Netherlands on the other hand, nearly have. And they’re democracies. I don’t know what country you are talking about when u said the government don’t give them the vote if they’re homeless.
@HideOnMada
2 жыл бұрын
@@snookie51 look no further than rural China.
@milaong9618
2 жыл бұрын
@@springmustend4853 Add the corresponding responsibilities to those rights. That is what has been lacking.
It's a shame that Kevin Rudd repeatedly called himself an analyst but talked like a spokesman for the Five Eyes alliance.
@nickfarquad3144
2 жыл бұрын
do u know my friend eric tion?
@davidjenson8124
2 жыл бұрын
🤪
@PhiloSurfer
2 жыл бұрын
@@nickfarquad3144 i only know erec tion.
@earthwizz
2 жыл бұрын
@Ellen Fang Of course he'll change, he's a politician.
@AsianLoad
2 жыл бұрын
Kevin Rudd is corrupt now.
As expected,Kevin was not honest in his replies. Regarding the changes in Chinese posture in Asia, he purposely left out the main change which was the dramatic growth of China which threatens to overtake the US alarming the West to take action collectively to stop it.As for Australia and other Western countries raising the issue of human rights against China as they are just honouring the Human Rights Convention,then why are they so quiet when the US helped Saudi Arabia to bomb Yemen to pieces,Israeli oppression of Palestinians, his own soldiers slitting throats of Iraqi children, UK refusing to return Chagos Islands to Mauritius despite ruling by the International Court and many others. Come on,Kevin,be brutally honest.The West is hardly bothered with human rights but are just using it as a pretext to abuse China.
@jameskoh2945
2 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@jasonlee7659
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he just can’t say that
@thinkingaloud5379
2 жыл бұрын
@e93 Palestine is recognised as a state by 138 countries out of 193 countries in the UN.So the majority of countries want to see Palestine exists as a state.It cannot be so because the West blocks it in the UN. Nevertheless,Palestinians exist by their millions clamouring for the return of their land.
@yeusean
2 жыл бұрын
He may lose his current jobs and other businesses for saying that.
U can know that this Kevin changed 180 degrees towards China, from pro to anti
Just lost my respect for KR.
Kevin's interviews recently have been rather hawkish and full of inaccuracies and mainstream propaganda. He's such a disappointment.
@tinatang1
2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with you. He is now working in an American Think Tank, hoping to control China.
@samliew6610
2 жыл бұрын
Feel that he is quite bias in this interview.
@jasonlee7659
2 жыл бұрын
He just told what he supposed to
@cryptorenegade1406
2 жыл бұрын
@@tinatang1 when Kevin comments that Australia is a liberal democracy,he forgot to add in the word racist, the more accurate term should be Australia is a "RACIST LIBERAL DEMOCRACY", due to past (aboriginals) & present (asian hate) actions
@kongakau5058
2 жыл бұрын
Yes
If they are international institutions why all of them are base in Europe and the USA?
Why is the pretext of your argument is based on China's behaviour and don't balance it with US actions and alliance seeking aimed at China?
@niaMah1363
2 жыл бұрын
Western hubris.
@clementyap1009
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct!
@JonROlsen
2 жыл бұрын
And all the while the USA CIA/NED/USAID is supporting and arming violent mobs and terrorists in strategic places along the BRI.
@frankm4349
2 жыл бұрын
After all Kevin is fed by wall street so nothing surprise.
@britishmalayasociety
2 жыл бұрын
Could you find me a period of time where any major nation in the world would stand with China rather than the US? Even Russia and China don't enjoy easy relations.
I think we’ve finally seen through Rudd, he’s essentially a neo-liberal who can speak Chinese. His imperious manner speaks for itself and somewhat typifies Australian arrogance which has waged war on third world countries on behalf of America for more than a hundred years now. Enough said
@Salamipoo
2 жыл бұрын
LOL! How to write egregious ad hominem vitriol that typecasts an entire nation. Definitelyyy not xenophobic, oversimplified or hyperbole. jks
@robezy0
2 жыл бұрын
Calling Rudd a neo-liberal reminds me of that time Shapiro called Andrew Neil a leftist
@thinkingaloud5379
2 жыл бұрын
Rudd is cowed by the incessant anti China sentiments in Australia that he dares not speak his mind and decided to go along with the flow and sided with the West to blame and attack China even though he knows China is more the victim of its own success than anything else.It is sad to see a statesman of Rudd's stature who knows China so well has chosen to throw it under the bus,so to speak,to save his own skin.
LOLs, of course China has changed. Its a growing power, how can it not change? Did Australia and US not changed as well? It is not always predicated on Chin'a behaviour. Who is the provocateur here, please be truly honest with your analysis, Kevin.
This Kevin guy has lost credibility and fast become another Gordon Chang, Tragic!
@farzana6676
2 жыл бұрын
Xi Jinping has lost all credibility.
@Cadere-jz1te
2 жыл бұрын
@@farzana6676 modi bots
@springmustend4853
2 жыл бұрын
Why? Just because he didn’t say what u wanted to hear? Is that the level you’re at?
@Cadere-jz1te
2 жыл бұрын
@@springmustend4853 Nope because he is Anglo saxon primacist.
@user-ri3wj6bf3f
2 жыл бұрын
This Kevin guy? He's former Australian PM!
Kevin Rudd definitely behaves like an American agent because he's an American agent!
@springmustend4853
2 жыл бұрын
This is the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen in a long time .
@scalarnai
2 жыл бұрын
He's evolved into a chameleon
This is not the Kevin Rudd that I used to know. His view on international politics significantly changed.
@youngz13o
2 жыл бұрын
Hes a chameleon
@Chinese916Sactown
2 жыл бұрын
$$$
@bollywoodsuperhero664
2 жыл бұрын
Coz he know China is not playing anymore
@alaltest9319
2 жыл бұрын
all white politicians are the same !
@earthwizz
2 жыл бұрын
He's a politician from one of the finest democracies money can buy and his opinions are those of the highest bidder.
Conflict by accident can happen when an 'accident' is actually planned and manufactured. Conflict can also happen if one side simply makes a false accusation against the other and then proceeds to attack the accused as if in response.
@jasonlee7659
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much all fights in the WW2 are “accidental”
@sugarsweethoney3078
2 жыл бұрын
exactly. as in the case of Iraq with the WMD which can't be found.
@GlobalDrifter1000
2 жыл бұрын
Som Ting Wong
@cjhk3576
2 жыл бұрын
False flag operation is the term
@condorX2
2 жыл бұрын
@@sugarsweethoney3078 👍 Ex-CIA: "It's easier to buy a reporter than to buy a newspaper." Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lYCevNF6Y6rHhqg.html
It is a waste of time listening to Kevin Rudd talking about Australia's position vis-a-vis China. Ditto about his position of the white race.
He is so wrong in his analysis. China and its people just want to work and live well. China learned from history and has to defend itself. If you have 10 nations sending troops to your doorstep, you may as well step up your military deployment.
He talked about the Chinese change but conveniently omitted the events leading to the Chinese change. Events like all those countries signing deals with American companies to explore for oil in the disputed areas, and Japan buying the disputed island from a Japanese "owner" out of nowhere and Taiwan setting air identification zones all the way into mainland China. He did not talk about all these absurd incidents but focused on the Chinese "changes", anyone who had kept up with the news years ago can see how disingenuous he is.
@lanlantulan
2 жыл бұрын
indeed.
@prashantjaiswal8208
2 жыл бұрын
First of all Taiwan is a (former Republic of China) is a part of China mainland. Second one is China is facing so many different types of difficulties created by United States of America I guaranteed if these things continuously happened for years then China will give a strong reply to USA without a single war and after that USA will be surprised by Chinese attacks (Excluding war). The third one is after a trade war held between America and China both sides suffering losses specially America facing more losses. Because the 05 objectives of trade war was- 01-To decrease the import of Goods&Services from China and Increase the Export. But America was failed in this aspect. 02-To increase the price of Chinese goods&services and make American goods cheaper infront of them but the result is opposite. 03-To reduce the chances of security risk through Chinese goods and services but Here also America failed. 04-To diversify the American companies from Chinese markets but except some Companies majority of American and other one is choose to stay in China. 05-To increase employment in America but the result has come to inverse of this also. So finally how America has been Won and China loose the trade war? The winner is The people's republic of China not The United States of America.
@rosebud4387
2 жыл бұрын
@@prashantjaiswal8208 China has recently increased its trade with the US who have made significant increases in Chinese imports.
@aforeignchinese1385
2 жыл бұрын
Must admit … all along Rudd was seen as “China Friendly” and a rational westerner which is rare. BUT it seems he is enlisted with a hidden agenda behind his think tanks in the States and nonchalantly brushing off the MIC stakes in profiteering from wars is oblivious to the factual truth, unless he’s in their deep pockets. Used to respect this guy until Brian Berletic posted he’s on record urging America to bring war to China some 10 years back. Analysts MY FOOT … just another HAWK !
@rosebud4387
2 жыл бұрын
@@aforeignchinese1385 Duplicitous typical politician.
I'm over the hate, we need to start acting like a planet not a bunch of greedy cavemen warlords. How dumb are we spending trillions on destroying humanity rather than saving it. ✌️🌏🇳🇿
@jasonlee7659
2 жыл бұрын
Much smarter than your AU neighbour 🙄
Agree, Kevin has been gradually more hawkish. Maybe he is getting contracts from the US government which you would expect from a consultancy/think tank.
@kongakau5058
2 жыл бұрын
He is not getting anything from china ...so abandon his support of china. Since being chair(?) of asia society, his tone changed
@farzana6676
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he recognizes the evil of communist party.
@bonanza06
2 жыл бұрын
@@kongakau5058 - yeah ... Asia Society ... based in New York City
@siamcharm7904
2 жыл бұрын
@@farzana6676 but not the usa republican perty.
@nightowl7261
2 жыл бұрын
He's showing his true self. Lol
Kevin's claim that Australia and other liberal democracies have a right to interfere in China's internal affairs just because China has a different (Communist) government should NOT be allowed to slide. It is this arrogance that has caused the worsening relationship between Australia and China. A very young (less than 80 years old) country with 23 million population thinks she has the right to criticise a 5000 year old civilisation with a population of 1.4 billion? What arrogance and conceit!
@charlietube7165
2 жыл бұрын
You don't talk to trolls, because trolls will never change
@renochee5129
2 жыл бұрын
100 years of Alliance haha
@speedstriker
2 жыл бұрын
@@charlietube7165 No, but you should throw a punch back in the form of a rebuttal and offer no further explanation. Trolls and animals are creatures who only understand force, so they should be treated as such.
@tugful
2 жыл бұрын
Modern communists China is only 72 years old. Chinese communists destroyed a huge number of chinese historical heritage during Cultural Revolution.
@leonluo4061
2 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct
Does Australia, US or UK have "Internal Securities Law"? If they do why can't Hongkong have one? Of course the brutality of Australian Police with the anti vaccination protest is within the Western concept of "Human Rights ala Western Rules Based Global Order".
@siamcharm7904
2 жыл бұрын
american patriot act is much more severe.
@geoff9858
2 жыл бұрын
@@siamcharm7904 your are right.
Well his tone suddenly changed, u don’t need authoritarian to change someone view. Just follow the money
@kongakau5058
2 жыл бұрын
Sad, used to respect him
@farzana6676
2 жыл бұрын
@@kongakau5058 Sad. I used to respect China.
@Musman-vr2mu
2 жыл бұрын
@@farzana6676 sad i used to respect other nation internal affairs
@farzana6676
2 жыл бұрын
@@Musman-vr2mu Yeah I'm sure genocides of muslim Uighurs is "internal affairs".
@chrisck3405
2 жыл бұрын
@@farzana6676 Where are my red Indian friends? What have you done to their children? Oh, you may find their remains when you dig up your backyard. Do try that when you have time.
The Belt and Road Initiative is not militaristic! It is commerce in nature. Japan started building and militarising islands and so did many other SEA countries. Why not China?
Rudd is lame. Doesn't hold an opinion of his own.
@user-kq6kk3vh3k
2 жыл бұрын
Jack Ma is a Traitor
@AsianLoad
2 жыл бұрын
Kevin Rudd is corrupt now.
Kelvin talks on changes only. The action taken by West in the last 100 years can be maintained and tolerate as long as there is no change. This is a waste of time to listen to the him.
@scalarnai
2 жыл бұрын
He's evolved into a chameleon with age
Rudd forgets to mention the one China policy that HK & Taiwan belong to China.
Kevin spoke 50% thought from him , other 50 % is protected his Aussie image
Now that US involvement in Afghanistan has ended, do we expect the Military-Industrial Complex to close shop?
@d34154
2 жыл бұрын
Where do i think it moving it back to?
@coffeeman9475
2 жыл бұрын
America will create another war somehow, somewhere to continue it's tradition of constantly being at war, so that it's military industrial complex doesn't go out of business. America is counting on Taiwan to be at war with China in order that Taiwan will continue to buy arms indefinitely. America is provoking and will continue to provoke China with matters like Xinjiang human rights issue, Hong Kong issues, Tibet issues to creat chaos in China. USA is sending it's fleets together with fleets of it's allies into Chinese waters obviously to provoke China. Had China been less or ill equipped militarily ,China will stand to face humiliation from Western powers namely, America, Britain, Germany, France,Australia,Japan and even Russia or even pea size countries like Lithuania .Why blame China for girding her Armour and sharpening her spears? Why question her right to defence when wolves and hyenas are lurking around her? Suddenly the reaction to a threat becomes a threatening. America, don't bite off more than you can chew. China isn't Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria.
Kevin Rudd sounds more like a politician than an analyst as he claimed.
@scalarnai
2 жыл бұрын
Yes he used to be friendly towards China when he was PM as he needed China's trade alas now he seems to have become a US bot, lost all credibility on impartiality
@TeleologicalConsistency
2 жыл бұрын
He's a propagandist.
Jeez Kevin, how low can you be? Nowadays you have fall from grace when compared the days you were PM. Used to support you and your party....
On critique about human rights with regard to the National Security Law in Hong Kong, I'm disappointed that Yonden didn't pursue Rudd with further hard questions on his views about (1) rioters waving American and British flags, (2) rioters demanding democracy free of Chinese governance, (3) rioters declaring Hong Kong independence from China, (4) overt supports by the U.S. along with its others Four-Eye alliance plus the West in financing and training those young extremists, and (5) whether the whole world, and Rudd in particular, accepting the fact that Hong Kong belongs to China.
@adempc
2 жыл бұрын
Do the people of Hong Kong belong to China even when they do not wish to?
@chubasco8647
2 жыл бұрын
Hong Kong and Taiwan are two important satellite states of China. PRC isn't really ready for both to be included yet into the mainframe China. The two territory are Chinese assets but however the people living there are a liability and so PRC preferred status quo policy until a generation or two, 50 years more is the best option. However the fake community international just need China to be slowed down now. It's about geopolitical interest for the west. Asia (all of it) including India, Japan, Indonesia must be taken down now to be crippled.
@thinkingaloud5379
2 жыл бұрын
@@adempc yes.HK belongs to China even if some Hongkongers don't like it.Nothing unusual here.Just like Catalonia remains in Spain and the separatist leaders all jailed or French suppression of Corsica's attempt to break away.Anyway,the majority of HongKongers are proud to be part of China.
@jackchiu7560
2 жыл бұрын
@@adempc @Think Aloud already replied to your question for me. No further comment.
@jackchiu7560
2 жыл бұрын
@@chubasco8647 To say that Hong Kong and Taiwan are assets but to label the people liabilities is a bit too harsh and out of touch. China should never allow its sons and daughters to go against the motherland on Chinese soil. Lee Teng-hui since 1988 changed history and literature textbooks in Taiwan to poison the younger generation into believing they were different from Chinese mainlanders. Successive governments, from Chen Shui-bian, Ma Ying-jeou to Tsai Ing-wen, continued the political indoctrination through education to cut off the bloodline connection between Taiwan and China. Ma Ying-jeou won the 2008 presidential election with a majority mandate but he never attempted to rescind the textbook changes in his 8 years in office. This period in Taiwan history took a similar resemblance to the teachings by the colonial government in Hong Kong under British rules where Hong Kong youngsters were taught about human rights, personal freedom and the rights to choose, among others, which erupted into mass protests in 2019-2020 for freedom and Hong Kong independence when the fuse was ignited by foreign powers. Imperialists always sowed seeds of discontents through education in order to retain some forms of influence when they finally leave. The Hong Kong SAR government could have easily permitted all 3 million British National (Overseas) passport holders to migrate to Britain if they wished. However, China didn't allow that simply because the Chinese leaders don't want to abandon the majority of their citizens due to some mistakes not of their own making. My argument relates to the kindness to bestow upon the Chinese people on both Hong Kong and Taiwan.
“According to most analysts” what analysts? Of course the analysts of one camp!
Kevin Rudd has gone to the dark side. He is now rudd-erless
@vicolew
2 жыл бұрын
The Asian Society that he heads should be renamed The Anglo Australian Society
Kevin Rudd, yet another thoroughly affordable mouthpiece. A more accurate analysis of intentions could be made comparing their military capabilities. The incredibly expensive US military is bristling with long-range attack capability with its nuclear carriers, subs, missiles and long-range bombers. Apart from enough ballistic missiles to ensure mutual destruction should some war-monger in the pentagon press the button, China has little or no long-range capability. Their military is bristling with far less expensive and probably much more effective defensive capability. Who wants to go halfway around the world attacking people and who doesn't? Who makes money out of war-mongering and been in an almost constant state of war since WWII as their economy collapses? Who hasn't been at war for 70 years and has a rapidly growing economy? War is hugely profitable for a very few but disastrous for the many. Peace is economically superior in every way for everyone.
I like the part where you questioned KR on the demand by the west of forcing China to behave, this and that. He just wondering around parroting the same narrative as reported in the western press, of broken promise not to militarise the island, of the dispute with Japan and India. He conveniently overlook the fact that US did not accept China’s proposal, that Japan move to nationalise the Island breaking a promise with China, and India’s aggressive actions at the border. So much for just being an analyst.
@StopBaizuo
2 жыл бұрын
You say and think what your Boss wants you to say and think. This is the principle for both the individuals in this video.
@i4MiSRAEL
2 жыл бұрын
It’s called the Roman Circus and so Caesars like to entertain himself and its people, haha.
@abhinay172
2 жыл бұрын
India's aggressive actions on the border? It's China that's crossing the border Everytime it's an expansionist country.
@yogawan3805
2 жыл бұрын
@@abhinay172 lol dude, India still supporting Western Colonialist. U know, China India disputed borders is not coming from India but British drew border
@abhinay172
2 жыл бұрын
@@yogawan3805 yeah I know most of the disputes are cause of British you expect me to keep on blaming them? They created a problem with those borders and now China is creating more problems by entering the Indian territory.
What Kevin said is totally BS,
@rogernguyen1273
2 жыл бұрын
AEY I think so too !
I just listened for 2 minutes and my conclusion is another anti China hit piece.
@Robert_St-Preux
2 жыл бұрын
It took it entirely differently. China, which has not sent troops outside its borders in decades, feels justifiably outraged by being preached to by the US, which routinely invades other countries, and has ringed China with American military bases. To me the US came off as war mongering. That is what I got from this SCMP editor, if not the PM.
@powerplayer75
2 жыл бұрын
"I just listened for 2 minutes" yeah you should finish it
Kevin Rudd is so thoroughly invested in the Western world view that he cannot see its flaws, he seems to think the claim that Australia is a "liberal democracy" is somehow meaningful commentary. He constantly attacks the Murdoch press but pretends there's no anti-China propaganda coming from the Western media, just a lack of "local nuance". His attempt at analytical impartiality fails dismally.
@AsianLoad
2 жыл бұрын
Kevin Rudd is corrupt now.
@scalarnai
2 жыл бұрын
He now relies on his bread and butter from working and living in America... some people are like Chameleon
@goldieverbeem5785
2 жыл бұрын
@@scalarnai p
@goldieverbeem5785
2 жыл бұрын
pptewe
@JohmScriv
2 жыл бұрын
@@scalarnai yes, he's like a wishy washy waffler
Am very disappointed with the interviewer for not challenging Kevin's assumptions about Human Rights and Australia's right to interfere in Hong Kong when Australia committed so many war crimes in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc as well as in her treatment of her owm indigeneous population. The interviewer did not ask really probing questions and threw Kevin softball questions only.
@1allan2
2 жыл бұрын
CCP bot.
@marcusaurelius9123
2 жыл бұрын
That's called whataboutism.
@robezy0
2 жыл бұрын
Where did Rudd make any assumptions about this? He mentioned the international treaties signed by China and explained why Australia reacted the way it did. I think the central mistake of interviewer is to him as the former PM of Australia. He's not anymore, he's an analyst and doesn't talk on behalf of Australia. Unfortunately both you and Lhatoo didn't seem to get that point in those 23 minutes
@oonie1576
2 жыл бұрын
@@1allan2 a low grade broken AI.
@oceanwave4502
2 жыл бұрын
Anglo wanted to create a cancer cell right within China's body (Hong Kong), hoping it would spread to the entire body...
Due to starting from 2016 US admin, the trade war, harsh language , restrictions even sanctions, yet HK riots all these obviously caused China to take different steps. Who would not after all that.? Please correct me if I am wrong..
@kevintewey1157
2 жыл бұрын
U.s. sending terrorist money in Taiwan in my on our places around China like Hong Kong to destabilize their whole economy and trading I absolutely hate my country I am so ashamed of the USA
@kevintewey1157
2 жыл бұрын
See The New Atlas
@Vanceqte
2 жыл бұрын
People have been asking why China has undergone such drastic changes in economy, military, and diplomacy in just a few years. People have been looking for China’s internal factors, but never asked about external factors. Who pushed China to this point?
@guytruth5598
2 жыл бұрын
@@Vanceqte you are more than correctly right 👍👍👍
@oceanwave4502
2 жыл бұрын
What bugs me is that Kevin's so-called human right has anything to do with invasions and bombing, especially from drones?
Kevin Rudd is just a clown He is not in the same class as the older generation of Statemen such as Paul Keating and Bob Hawke
Analysing his answer, it can be concluded that Kevin is now in american arm manufacturers payroll. After all money speaks.
Used to respect Kevin. No more.
Kevin waffling instead of analysing should have retired on his pension and do philanthropy
@chuamengkim6020
2 жыл бұрын
Kevin must help resolve Taiwan issue , ONE CHINA policy is mandatory instead of arming Taiwan to fight the ancestral motherland.
@Kosmonooit
2 жыл бұрын
Few share his insight so best listen carefully
'How dare you China, you are not allowed to change.' KR said.
@samir98753
2 жыл бұрын
China change only because of US.
@robezy0
2 жыл бұрын
Where does he say or imply that? He's just acknowledging that it does.
@cam35mm
2 жыл бұрын
Rudd is a racist. called the Chinese Rat-F^%Kers. at a symposium.
@oceanwave4502
2 жыл бұрын
The West likes the submissive attitude of China +20 years ago. They prefer China to keep that way. 😆😆😆
@marcusaurelius9123
2 жыл бұрын
They were changes increasing tensions such militarising islands in the SCS despite an undertaking not to do so . Need to look at the context.
I am just an "analyist" so kevin rud says , but I dont like China to rise and stand up for herself , better to stay as she were , easy to be manipulated , passive and defenseless.
@marcusaurelius9123
2 жыл бұрын
He's calling it as he sees it. Xi specifically said in 2015 that the "islands" in the SCS reclaimed by China would not be militarized. Xi lied
@Solaniin
2 жыл бұрын
Can't be spreading authoritarianism. I watching KZread videos freely
@tinto278
2 жыл бұрын
Kevin Rudd is a lobbyist for China in Australia, so is Malcolm Turnbull. They had to register with the Australian government under the foreign influence scheme. He has an agenda.
@oceanwave4502
2 жыл бұрын
The more we learn about the West, especially Anglo, the more we realize how unshamedly arrogant they are...
@prashantjaiswal8208
2 жыл бұрын
First of all Taiwan is a (former Republic of China) is a part of China mainland. Second one is China is facing so many different types of difficulties created by United States of America I guaranteed if these things continuously happened for years then China will give a strong reply to USA without a single war and after that USA will be surprised by Chinese attacks (Excluding war). The third one is after a trade war held between America and China both sides suffering losses specially America facing more losses. Because the 05 objectives of trade war was- 01-To decrease the import of Goods&Services from China and Increase the Export. But America was failed in this aspect. 02-To increase the price of Chinese goods&services and make American goods cheaper infront of them but the result is opposite. 03-To reduce the chances of security risk through Chinese goods and services but Here also America failed. 04-To diversify the American companies from Chinese markets but except some Companies majority of American and other one is choose to stay in China. 05-To increase employment in America but the result has come to inverse of this also. So finally how America has been Won and China loose the trade war? The winner is The people's republic of China not The United States of America.
He claims to be more on the analytic point of view but, I can see he is more pro~western and lackey to west /US. Well, trying to twist and turn and, or, going straight to the point are two different things.
@lanlantulan
2 жыл бұрын
his only argument, because China changed, all others must change to contain and be hostile towards China. Wow..
@samliew6610
2 жыл бұрын
He gave me that impression, too, always like protecting and giving reasons to their actions on China. Hee is not objective.
@Chris-Moore501
2 жыл бұрын
America and China are both scarred by sins, but, in the big picture, China's reach has only served to put others under the communist party's rule. The western countries building bases around the world is more of an act of (imperfectly) policing injustices. How has China helped the world by expansion?
KR biased analysis
On the subject of Taiwan, I disagree with Kevin's point that after a decade if China's military power grows to be able to take over the island, the likelihood of hot war may increase. Truth is, despite China's military power now, if the ruling party in Taiwan cross the line by creating de facto independence, China will take action no matter the cost. The primary consideration on mainland China side is on how to govern Taiwan if the takeover is through military action, instead of whether military is strong enough, or what cost of military action is. Kevin should know this well...disappointed
It's impossible to bring up human rights without brining up human rights violation by Australia, UK, Canada, US, etc that they have not answered for. Because it's hypocritical at best for these people to talk about China's human rights abuses when historically and especially currently in the middle east and Africa US, Australia and their allies have been doing far worse.
Rudd said ''China has changed'', but it doesn't effect Australia at all. Australia has changed for the worse.
@danwelterweight4137
2 жыл бұрын
And I don't even know what they are talking about how has a China changed. Taiwan's policy still the same. South China Sea policy is still the same. Policy towards the west is the same.
Obviously just mouthing the words of his paymaster. No analyst at all.
@mommylou2417
2 жыл бұрын
Lol..you said it right
As a learned scholar to analyse changes, Kevin Rudd claims it doesn't take a position/judgment. But not commenting on the long standing unchanged position of a bully(ies) and highlighting the increasing strength of the previously bullied is in itself taking a position, and a sneaky way in doing so.
@vicolew
2 жыл бұрын
Kevin wanted to pretend BUT done a lousy job of pretending. He is def a bias person, I would even call him an analyst of a think tank. Jeeez !!!
Which countries or places do not national security laws? If Australia does not have one, then you can criticise about HK
@robezy0
2 жыл бұрын
What you and the cop from last episode don't seem to understand is that the problem is not having a national security law, the problem is what's inside it. Many Western nations have a NSL, but all of them still have a working political opposition, too. The same cannot be said about Hong Kong, where the opposition is explicitly targeted by that law and that's the point criticised by liberal democracies, NOT the existence of the law itself.
@johanhirte9661
2 жыл бұрын
@@robezy0 don’t waste ur time ….. mainlanders don’t even understand this … Like try to explain to them what a judicatory is …. Or rule of law instead of rule by law. That China is passing any laws in a parliament is the biggest joke already 😂
@arceusmewtwo7774
2 жыл бұрын
@@johanhirte9661 ikr . They are brainwashed with so much hate towards Taiwan , USA , India , Japan and other countries that they overlook or ignore the horrible inhumane acts committed by their own communist government.
@marcs5117
2 жыл бұрын
@@arceusmewtwo7774 what inhumane act? Fake news feeding brainwashed ppl
Kevin is still holding reservation against US and Ozzy, trying to redefine bad US and Ozzy diplomatic moves as mere changes. We don't need euphemism here.
@nutayahoo5000
2 жыл бұрын
Kevin Rudd is white to the bone but politics is in his blood.
@rosebud4387
2 жыл бұрын
We don't need Kevin here at all!
@rosebud4387
2 жыл бұрын
@@nutayahoo5000 Desperately trying to remain relevant and important.
@maxbreeze4861
2 жыл бұрын
We need people like Kevin to wake Australian up for their wrong move to join a war game.
@rosebud4387
2 жыл бұрын
@@maxbreeze4861 Australia needs people like Keating not Kevin.( need to wake Kevin up first)
This is definitely not the Kevin who used to be the eloquent, articulate, scholastic and balanced presenter! Review his previous presentations ! He's obviously struggling with those qualities, and for the interviews of recent months he seems to be struggling , and has to depend on aspects like, "I'm an analyst and I ......", etc ! Listen to how he answered in respect of the western media biasness. He was actually the victim at that ! Huh ! He's not like this before! It's pathetic that he's lost that flair which was so natural in him at one time! What's happened ?? The western aggressive geo political manoeuvres or manipulations in the Asia Pacific region together with their allies, could have given him the pressure to play to the gallery ! Perhaps, it's the coming Australian elections next year.! Politics runs in his bloodstream......... SIGh!
@rosebud4387
2 жыл бұрын
He was always an egotistical bore.
@lanlantulan
2 жыл бұрын
true, i agree with you. He used to be more neutral but the bigger picture of Aussie media and propaganda hostility towards China changed him.
@steventan2550
2 жыл бұрын
Kevin Rudd is now under the the payroll of the Military-Industrial Complex?
@thinkingaloud5379
2 жыл бұрын
Kevin decides to stick to a safe course of not getting into trouble with the anti China forces in the West and therefore is decidedly anti China nowadays
@rosebud4387
2 жыл бұрын
@@thinkingaloud5379 Kevin always followed his own self interest. But if you can't stand up for what you truly believe in and speak out and be prepared if the blow back comes then what are you ? a man of straw, with a feet of clay.
I am so fatigued by talk about liberal democracies in contrast with one party states. Show me a liberal democracy which is both actually liberal and one which is truly a democracy. Show me a liberal democracy which actually acts primarily in the interests of its citizens. Show me a liberal democracy one can be proud of in action and not just in words.
Oh ya, China has no right to change for the better.. haha.
LOL, KR wants to lecture people about human rights after slapping/killing its own natives. These people enact no slapping laws right after slapping people so that if the people they slapped decide to slap back, they want to say its against the law. Hypocrite!!
The best thing is not to listen or watch anything that has Kevin Rudd in it. I once respected him.
@Hahaha41241
2 жыл бұрын
Same here
China is confident and doings the right things We are all Chinese no war
Kevin rudd is a minor person from a minor country. What he thinks and says is insignificant.
Interesting discussion and one can learn a lot from Kevin Rudd on how to frame a topic. Fundamental point from Kevin Rudd that is flawed in his chain of argument however, is his focus on analyzing the so called change being the job of a strategic analysis. It sounds fancy, but for me, assessment of change is much more tactical than strategical. 1) strategy requires depiction of vision and direction 2) understanding change can be interpreted in so many layers and differs in different perceptions. To sum up, he argues like a lawyer to win a debate, not a strategic thinker to explore better view out of deep discussion
@chenghung507
2 жыл бұрын
On HK issues, Australia and for that matter, the west, should ask themselves what brought about the introduction of the New Security Law. Had there no violence due the west supported so called democratic movement, we wouldn't have the tough actions from the central. On the issue of Taiwan, if us naval vessels won't sail through Taiwan Strait and sell weapons to Taiwan, there would not be strong presence Chinese military force. It is the US who is stirring up the trouble. By the way, what's the Taiwan Strait got to do with the puppet UK
@maxsweetman6341
2 жыл бұрын
@@chenghung507 the same as the Aussie puppet Their militaries are just divisions of the American MIC paying dearly to their American masters maintain American hedgemony
I really want to like him, but every time I’m disappointed.
By shielding himself behind this so called 'analyst' position Rudd brings nothing of interest or discernment to the discussion. I was expecting a much more insightful exposition of what's happening than merely recounting what's happened in terms of changes that have occurred. A truly insightful discourse would require him to take sides, to argue the rights and wrongs or mistakes with these changes. But he took pains to skirt over that path. Worse, he presented those changes in a way that would leave his hearer with the distinct impression of wrong by China, and by inference nothing wrong by the opposing forces.
@snookie51
2 жыл бұрын
Agree. He gave the impression that China was the faulty party when it was actually a victim of the demonization campaign by the White nations primarily. I am truly shocked that he addressed that Hong Kong crisis as human rights issue rather than a threat to China's sovereignty from a section of the Hong Kong people who worked with foreigner powers to detach Hong Kong from China's reign. There were allegedly more than 1000 CIA agents working behind the protestors at the time of the chaos. But they have all fled immediately to Taiwan after the introduction of the National Security Law. Can this be a human rights issue? The people he talked about were not innocent. They were traitors. He is not the Kevin Rudd that I once knew.
Even Kevin Rudd makes "GAFFS", as the islands as he stated taken by China, are actually in the south china sea, and not in the south Pacific. This is one ocassion when i do not agree with most of what he said, which seemed to be said more about protection of his own position on The Asia Society, which for reasons not stated is located in the U.S..
@renochee5129
2 жыл бұрын
Rename SCS to AUKUS sea
Kelvin Rudd's point of view is lopsided. Perhaps he should analyze himself as of what had changed in him?
Anglo saxon primary is the Totalitarian ideology this guy is just unable to give up.
As an analyst, there is much that you have missed, especially about Hong Kong.
KR has changed. I assume he sees it as a business need to swing back to the western tune in order to stay in business with his potential customers.
if you get a bad guest and he's lying and you don't call him out enough you get thumbs down
Kevin could not analyze his way out of a paper bag! He pompously looks down on people while he "knowledgeably lectures us" Please spare us any more of his "analysis".Get someone with real insights to talk about China and Asia.(and Australia.)
@rosebud4387
2 жыл бұрын
Kevin is displaying his real ignorance of Chinese governance and how it works and how 95%+ of Chinese citizens support the Chinese govt. and displaying his ignorance of the Chinese culture and civilization and of Chinese people, he's very also limited in his knowledge and sounds like a preacher giving us a sermon..His talk of human rights in China/HK is based on flawed evidence and logic.
Kevin Rudd is talking off his high horse
Is the SCMP editorial bias aligned with old Hong Kong values or new ones?
@MarkYeung1
2 жыл бұрын
Most Hong Kong people share this old value. So it's not surprising that SCMP does.
@drdavidfoo6632
2 жыл бұрын
I think the SCMP owned by Jack Ma now toes the party line
@niaMah1363
2 жыл бұрын
Scmp owned by Alibaba where the majority shareholder is softbank, and softbank is Japanese. Contrary to what ppl think, jack ma only owns less than 10% of Alibaba
@Chris-fe6ku
2 жыл бұрын
New
@vincentwong1477
2 жыл бұрын
I guess any values that jeopardised US supremacy and imperialism in Asia is Chinese aggression to you.
KR has lost his credibility. Claimed to be a think tank analysist but obviously pivotting and justifying towards US hegemony. I suspect he had read the Rand report by US and surmised such actions by US towards China is a given.
@StopBaizuo
2 жыл бұрын
Only because he doesn't support China he lost his credibility?
@oceanwave4502
2 жыл бұрын
Those military industrial complex must have fed anti-China attitude to Think Tanks and analysts like KR.
@rosebud4387
2 жыл бұрын
He has US interest/bias and has a position lecturing on China etc at Harvard.He's hardly an impartial interviewee.
When Rudd talks about China he talking about Hong Kong point of view.(Democracy.) His son in law (Australian Chinese)and daughter live in Hong Kong.He is biased same as Turnbull.
@rosebud4387
2 жыл бұрын
Australia should mind its own business (which it is having trouble doing) and so should Rudd. Hong Kong is part of China and a domestic issue for China not for Australia or Rudd.
@rosebud4387
2 жыл бұрын
Suddenly an apologist for the western media. Blind Freddy could see what was going on in HK.with the rioting and setting people on fire etc and then he goes off on a tangent about lecturing everyone about how the media works as if we are all ignorant.
@bollywoodsuperhero664
2 жыл бұрын
@@rosebud4387 Australia can’t deal with its own problems
@rosebud4387
2 жыл бұрын
@@bollywoodsuperhero664 If only.
China's change is a reflexive move towards Obama's "pivot to Asia" policy, and not a recent events since 2017.
@Thinkofwhat
2 жыл бұрын
Very true!!
@StopBaizuo
2 жыл бұрын
That's definitely true. 100% agree. But. When American White Wealthy Families started to move money from West to China after 1971 all was okay? Do you like that "Pivot to Asia"?
@abhinay172
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopBaizuo I mean it all started with Whites colonising and oppressing Asians, that's where this whole thing began.
@smoochie3331
2 жыл бұрын
The chinese man made islands and claiming ownership to almost all south china sea starting all of these.
@kentershackle1329
2 жыл бұрын
@@smoochie3331 And Australia is claiming South China Sea too.?
The only decent journalist at South Carolina Morning Post.
No point talking to this man from SCMP. He thinks he knows everything. He is keeping anti Chinese groups entertained.
Rudd shows his political bias by mentioning China's promise not to militarize the islands it made in the South China Sea, but hopes that no one knows enough to point out that, after that promise was made, the U.S. started sending lots of warships to their shores and even sending bombers almost directly overhead in order to threaten the troops stationed there. This forced the PLA to militarize the islands in order to protect themselves, and it is the reason why warships and bombers no longer visit those islands. Next, he claims that it is China which altered the conditions at the Line of Actual Control (LAC) with India. This is obviously false. Even western media companies, like the National Post, reported how Chinese commanders immediately agreed to and implemented a removal of forces from the LAC upon an agreement that Indian troops would do the same. Then, as they were leaving, 55+ Indian troops immediately broke the agreement and crossed the LAC (proportedly to "check" to see if the Chinese troops were keeping their word); and when they encountered the Chinese supplies and tents, they immediately started lighting them on fire. This led to the clash at the Galwan Valley, which caused the deaths of 4 Chinese soldiers and 20 Indian soldiers in hand-to-hand combat. Rudd is obviously a U.S. propagandist in the guise of a neutral analyst.
His tone has changed as well. Pathetic.
Aukus formation bring back memories of British colonization history that caused many suffering and humiliation to many countries, many national treasures were looted by the British empire and Allies. Now Aukus formation would again repeat what it did during world war 1 n 2
Kevin Rudd is such a bore. His knowledge of China is really shallow but he likes to show off about it.He gets to speak about China only because no one else in Australian govt (and mostly everywhere else) knows absolutely anything of substance about China so Rudd makes out he's an expert just to try and remain relevant ..Just states the bleeding obvious and well known.
@marclabouchardiere8713
2 жыл бұрын
You realise the smartest people are the ones who are able to explain a topic so everyone can understand.
@rosebud4387
2 жыл бұрын
@@marclabouchardiere8713 Indeed but that's not Kevin.
Could conflict between China and the West be avoided if the Taiwanese people, for those so inclined, were allowed to migrate on mass to Australia and possibly other countries? After all, Australia needs to grow its population for developmental reasons. I support the One-China policy and recognise that some Taiwanese are happy to accept mainland rule while others are not. For those that are not, they should have the option of leaving Taiwan for Australia, or somewhere else, especially if that will help prevent conflict between China and the West. The US will not defend Taiwan because it supports the One China policy which means it recognises the territory of the former as being an indivisible part of China. This means the US believes that China is not committing an act of aggression against an independent or foreign nation by asserting its authority over the island. So, the question becomes, what chance have the Taiwanese got in a fight against its vastly larger and better-armed neighbour? The outcome is obvious and so it is really a matter of saving as many lives as possible that is the real issue here. That can be achieved by allowing those who do not wish to live under the rule of the Communist Party to leave and become citizens of some other democracy, such as Australia. Upholding Chinese sovereignty does not have to result in a massive loss of life on both sides of the Taiwan Strait in a military conflict that would also result in significant material destruction and environmental damage to both sides, and to any other nations choosing to involve themselves. A peaceful outcome that is in line with the beliefs of the democracies of this world concerning the sanctity of human life can be achieved in a manner consistent with allowing the democratic aspirations of the Taiwanese to live on, all be it, in another country or countries who are similarly committed to the same way of life. There does not have to be armed conflict between the West and China. There is another way to resolve the Taiwanese matter.
Kevin is a politician. He can see changes. The host is very disappointed Kevin is no longer sympathetic to CCP actions and objectives. Should of interviewed Dr Kerry Brown or Martin Jacques. Would of got the answers he wanted then. Maybe listen to Victor Gao on Australian TV...implied China would 'nuke' Australia. Help understand why Australians feel threatened by China.
For his opinions China 🇨🇳 is wrong at all the level so what does it then analyse with a different view ? Just anotha polite one sided minded viewer
Kevin Rudd forgetting a simple fact is that who initiated those changes? Yes, China changed because someone change first and China has to respond to that status change. Japan first announced that the island is privately owned by Japan which this started the change. Philippines sent a sinking boat with soldiers onboard in order to station on those islands which China has to respond. India has crossed the agreed ceased line for the first time in years, which caused China to respond. All of these changes came when Obama said US will rebalance their forces and station heavier might in Asia. So who is the one that instigated these?
Of course you will change when you get richer and you will want to have bigger house, bigger car, have body guards etc etc
Kevin Rudd, the former prime minister of Australia, is trying to project a view that his views are impartial and objective. The listener must understand that he lives in Australia and the Americans and the current Australian gomen had turned the whole of Australia against China, he cannot afford to stick out as a sore thumb. Whether he likes it or not, he has to live in Australia and he needs friends in Australia. What is worse is Kevin's daughter in law is a Chinese, though not a Chinese National. So don't expect Kevin Rudd to say that what China did was in response to what US is doing all the while. I find it futile to interview Kevin Rudd any more as his reply is very standard. If you want to listen to a truly un-bias opinion talk to someone who is not an Australian or an American or anyone who lives in the 5 Eyes.
@vicolew
2 жыл бұрын
that's makes him a complete useless analyst , i guess.
kevin rudd is not honest
Wherever USA army visited those countries have democracy and human rights like Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, lybia, Afghanistan etc etc. 🤣🤣🤣😂
Australia will face disaster if they want to support USA instead of support.. Australia should go for peace and act as a middle man to sort out issuea then u will be the best in Asia.. Hope Australian ppls should decide their fate by voting out war mongers..
Human rights…. What about blacks and aboriginals?
@i4MiSRAEL
2 жыл бұрын
Haha. A fair point.
@J_L45
2 жыл бұрын
It’s been an open air prison since 1788 ...
@rosebud4387
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they don't think they are human.Until not so long ago Aboriginals were listed/counted in Australia with dept. wildlife (in census) Flora and Fauna.
I’m liking this Lhatoo’s interviews…..he’s asking the difficult questions:)
@rudytrulytruly7467
2 жыл бұрын
Yonden is the best
@Hahaha41241
2 жыл бұрын
This Kevin is a chameleon, Chinese should never trust him again.
@rosebud4387
2 жыл бұрын
@@Hahaha41241 No one should trust Kevin he is a known back stabber.
@dhh5217
2 жыл бұрын
' difficult' questions
ya'll think kevin rudd is better than scomo?
@youtubeairways8646
2 жыл бұрын
Most certainly, 'Sco Mao Zedong', as he has recently been labeled, is relatively terrible.
@ketchups2777
2 жыл бұрын
Yup!
@smoochie3331
2 жыл бұрын
Jin ping is better than those two on electricity.
Kevin is not answering to Yonden's specific question, instead just hovering on a general scale of stuff, that often include others Anglo Saxon countries to fend off direct answers to Yonden's concerns ( about how Australia's stand ),. Kevin is more keen to play down a lot of Western media BS and instead avoiding the mobs actions and only forgives the Western media not reporting the violence in HK.. instead just blabbing on the liberty, etc .. He is a complete waste of time and a pro Western tool , that's all . Meanwhile Yonden's questions were spot on !!
Kevin is being expose as being ingenious and when cornered, he hides in sheep clothing to say he is simply an "analyst". What a double talker?
I just lose the respect of Kevin,
Well done Yonden
I doubt about the 'change' apply, as everyone standstill only China moving forward and become a normal country.