A while ago I lost internet for a day apparently this software requires server connection to even use I wanted to build while not being able to do much turns out can't do that with talespire this needs offline mode

@TheDungeonNewbsGuide

3 жыл бұрын

Ooof, did not realize that about TS. That's a pretty notable negative.

@christreedee

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheDungeonNewbsGuide what dndbeyond plugin was it you mentioned :) thank you

@TheDungeonNewbsGuide

3 жыл бұрын

@@christreedee Oh shoot, yeah, I mention the extension and forget to plug it! It's called Beyond the Spire. Here's the link chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/beyond-the-spire/jgflekbegoccflpmdemeeebbapfbmmjo?hl=en

@christreedee

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheDungeonNewbsGuide seems to work, but subsequent rolls do not display :( maybe they will keep developing it :)

@WebTable

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, you do need internet because lots of the interaction is done through the dedicated network. However software like Tabletop Simulator have the same issue.

Just want to add that the devs actually added Text Chat in the early access release (it's in some cases a bit wonky still, like international symbols in text) by hitting enter! Really like the rest of the video/presentation, shows what TaleSpire really is good for and why people get so excited for it - even when it doesn't yet have the automation-bells-and-whistles other VTTs have. And props to you for mentioning those missing bells and whistles, I'd hate to see people go into TaleSpire with the wrong expectations and dislike it for that reason.

@TheDungeonNewbsGuide

3 жыл бұрын

Oh dang, I totally missed the text chat but that's great to hear! And thanks so much!

@DeathSithe92

2 жыл бұрын

VTT?

The biggest thing stopping me at the moment is the amount of work i know it will take to make good looking maps

@TheDungeonNewbsGuide

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, if you want to make your own maps from scratch and make them look really good, it can be a bit of a task. But if you utilize the slabs that you can copy from those community sites just to get aspects for maps (buildings, big terrain, etc) you can piece together some good looking stuff pretty fast. Might be worth waiting until the community has really grown and the amount available is really robust.

Opened youtube, searched for talespire, found 4 review videos for the early access version. Then I thought that I should give a chance to a video with a lower view count. Did not disappoint. Thanks for the informative and well structured review!

Getting into dnd for the first time. Was thinking about tailspire but you helped make the decision! Very suprised you only have nearly 900 sub's with the video quality. Good work

oh damn, that's my city :D

What a fast and great review! thanks man, keep the videos coming

I got talespire a few weeks back and I love that it's just 3d, it clicks a lot better with the creative side of my brain.

That tilt shift effect really adds to the atmosphere of this VTT

Great review. The more I play around with this, the more I like it. It just requires a few hours of practice to get familiar with the controls. I don't really play modern "grid-based" D&D, but I totally plan to use this for table-top dungeon crawler board games like HeroQuest and Dungeon Universalis. I've even got the hide boxes working pretty well...however I have yet to figure out how to use the alpha fog of war settings yet.

@TheDungeonNewbsGuide

3 жыл бұрын

Oof, lemme see if my brain remembers what the CMs taught me about fog of war...Once you activate the feature in the menu, I think you so a box select of an area, then hit 5...or F5. Then assigned player Miniatures line of sight are literally the only thing that can cause it to vanish (as the GM, you cannot, so be careful!). Hope that helps (and that I remembered right).

@fightingfortruth9806

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I figured it out. It's interesting, but it definitely needs work. I don't like that you can't delete it except using a miniature, otherwise you get a mess of gray fog everywhere.

Great review. Simple and to the point. Touched on most things I was curious about. Thanks!

Thank's for the review! You have greatly assisted in my research, as I too am looking at using this program. Thanks again! :D

This looks nice. I don't have a group at the moment, but I am considering this just for fun and visualization in solo play.

Having had early access...this is a good overview of pros and cons

This platform is doing thing sright (the text share thing for "slabs" is awesome!) hope this platform does grow to what it coudl accomplish! Regards from Tabasco, México [Land of The Olmecs]!0

Thanks for the helpful review man, earned a sub :)

Thx for the Video. You are really right on piont. I love it for EA and am looking forward to all they bring out in the future. Being in Lockdown has been rough for my gaming group and this is a perfect asnwer for us. We play D&D3.5, we own all the books, have our own Characters. We all rotate GameMastering. So not having a build-in gaming system is no big deal. (Will probably be 5e anyway). Thx again. Stay safe and Gruß from Germany

To be honest this perfect for me since I like to make it a presentation style without printing out map and making my own tokens.

Tip to use one copy -> Everyone takes Discord and you share the Screen -> This will show all you have done but for saving up 20€ for each player? That is a fucking steal ;) and works wonders. You can easily move enemies for players and stuff.... Not that I have yet to use this but is something we tested using Cypher System where I shared the screen and showed pictures of places when we played and everyone had my screen which they could look. Showing characters on one screen while hiding all info on other screen ;)

@gametender1

Жыл бұрын

you could also get it for one other person and just have them stream from a player view so they cant see all the gm stuff.

I surprised myself liking Crimson Shroud on the 3DS after finally giving it a try one day. Seeing this game (TaleSpire) gives me a good feeling for sure!

Loving this slick looking mapmaker! My only exposure towards tabletop games came solely from monopoly, and my experiences with DnD are from watching youtube/twitch channels (which are great to listen to when I'm working). That said, I'm nothing but a total normie. What drove me to throw my money on day one release of the early access is simply what it has to offer just by looking at their store page. The visual, prospect of creativity, visual storytelling, my background as a 3D artist, and the fact that steam recommended it because I own/wishlisted a number of dev tools and productivity software. If anyone asks me whether I give two piece about its VTT side, honestly I don't and I don't know any better to make use of it. What I CAN do is to be a mapmaker and contribute to TS community and have brilliant minds cook up stories around my creation.

Cool video my man keep it up

Short answer: Ye Long answer: Yes

be cool to see what you would think of talespire now. the assest have grown a lot and Hero's Forge has paired up with them so you can design and import custom models into the platform. True this costs money but found if players pooled together or if you (as dm) use the pro plus sub to hero's forger you get 5 free digital transfers tokens (worth more then the sub) and monthly free random model packs. The community pages have grown and filled out a lot, and some of the menus in game have expanded or been modified. I am just returning to DMing after a break since talespire first came out and I was able to make several sizable maps with insane detail simply my mixing and using community made stuff with some personal touches. I would highly recommend this to any DM or party that is willing to spend the money. ((I will have to state as a closer it is still very much in progress, The team behind it has remained dedicated and whats there now is satisfying enough IMO))

very nice video! :)

There is text chat built right into the game. Press ENTER (or was it space) to enter chat mode. Type content and it will be said in a speech bubble by the corresponding character as well as be place in the chat (which can be opened and closed). There are also a lot of unofficial plugins mods available for TaleSpire which provide user created unofficial functionality while we wait for the functionality to be officially added by the Tale Spire development team. They can be easily installed/enabled/disabled/uninstalled using the R2ModMan manager which allows you to choose which plugins you want active and/or choose to launch an unmodded game. Details can be found at talespire.thunderstore.io/

Hey man, great review! You've got great energy and I plan to watch more of your content! Liked, subscribed, and commented. I will love watching this community grow over time... from the shadows... lol I don't comment much. Hey, I've got a question. Will you be doing a campaign in this program?

@TheDungeonNewbsGuide

3 жыл бұрын

I think a campaign in Talespire would be rad, but a lot of work. Don't know if I would have the time, or if I could convince enough of my players to buy it, sadly. And if you mean as a campaign on my channel, I have often held doubt that many people would be interested in trying to keep up with yet another live play series, especially one from me lol! But who knows. Honestly, if I did a campaign on the channel, it would probably be pretty heavily theater of the mind, if only for my own editing sanity

@cybinja2438

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheDungeonNewbsGuide I would watch it! you convinced me to buy it if for nothing else but to create quick maps and use a projector for my Real Life TT game! Keep up the great work and I for one will be watching for more content! love the information here and you made it easy to consume as well as very informative!

I cannot wait for someone to make a KZread video of a gameplay for their d&d game. it will be like a tv show. if I had editing skills, that would be something that I think I would be working on. with d&d gaining popularity , I think that kind of video would get millions of videos.

@gametender1

Жыл бұрын

I have seen some on twitch looks like its getting more popular

Great video. I do have a question. What about making the map and then taking a snapshot from overhead to use in another VTT as a map ? Example , I make a pretty dungeon , take an overhead snap and then import into a VTT like Foundry ?

@TheDungeonNewbsGuide

3 жыл бұрын

Huh...honestly, I'm not too sure it would be great for that. But maybe...you know what, I'm actually going to just check right now lol... So, seems like it would okaaay at small maps, but the camera never gets 100% perfectly overhead, there is always a tiny angle to it. You get a map that is more than like 10x10 and I feel like it isn't going to line up as a flat picture grid (if that makes sense). I don't think it would be worth a purchase just for that though.

@Esanssi10

3 жыл бұрын

You can do that in this software, yes.

@joshh828

3 жыл бұрын

would be great for isometric view, too, which is sometimes hard to come by

So near to be perfect... It's great to show, but still... That or keep everyone with the phisical characters sheets and dice on them... Can be great for spectacle and for a campaign meant to be recorded and shared to outside people

How well would it work for a home game system that doesn't use published peg rules?

As far as i know there are websites that ppl upload maps to so u can just get already built things if it fits ur game without having to waste time

@TheDungeonNewbsGuide

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, those would be the "Slabs" and stuff I mentioned! Super easy to pull into TaleSpire

@mr.admr1016

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheDungeonNewbsGuide :D, great video btw

you should revisit this now and give your opinion on it now that theyve had a year to add features and such.

Love Talespire

How many character can you move as a player? I'm asking because I want to understand if we can buy only two copies instead of five

Thanks for the review. I was considering getting this and experimenting with a one shot until you said "all players must purchase a copy". Unfortunately that's a deal killer for my group. Can't get multiple players to drop the money on an unproven program. No need for me to invest more time in looking at it now, though I may want to circle back in a couple years and see how it stands then. It looks fantastic, but ease of use and online playability is more important. (and ease of use includes price point for the group.)

this before chimera?

Do you think there's been enough added for an update or not yet?

@TheDungeonNewbsGuide

2 жыл бұрын

A solid question! I'll look into it! I haven't spent as much time with it as I thought I would (not sure if that says more about me or the vtt, but probably me lol), so I will need to take some time to look it over! But I like the idea!

So I have a question. Do you have to make your own maps to play with friends? Because I am looking for a more intricate version of For the King in a way.

@TheDungeonNewbsGuide

2 жыл бұрын

You can both import entire maps, or large pieces of maps (slabs) that other folks have made, just like I showed in the video. Links for two community map sites are in the description.

@IAmAydenRiley

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheDungeonNewbsGuide ty, also, does one person HAVE to paly as the GM in order to do anything or can you import a map and go on a cool adventure without having to edit stuff.

Looks like something I could use by myself without the multiplayer elements to just create stuff.

Being honest and after being invited to a game that the DM requires us the players to get to play the game he wants I don't see TaleSpire as something worth wild compared to the other VTTs. I still think the 25 dollars per player is much BECAUSE they might not stick with the DM that wants to use it. They might get a game that will be on Roll20 or Foundry or Fantasy Grounds or Owl, ect. Most players won't even consider using it as a DM because of the lack of notes, character sheets, and support if they are new to being a DM. So 125 dollars is much compared to Foundry with the 50 dollars the DM puts in and gets forever. There is one thing that I can say is a positive and main selling point of TaleSpire, it does have the potential of making great maps. If you want a 3D lifestyle map making software you can also use to host your games, then this is it. You won't be able to find anything that beats it until WOTC releases their own VTT on DND Beyond.

I will answer this for you. Not yet. Until you can bring players in without them having to buy it, it is just a neat toy. Until then, use the chrome extension AboveVTT to turn DNDBeyond into a full VTT. That being said, I have bought it, and it is very cool. It just has a long way to got to be a full fledged VTT.

The chat isn't that big a deal to me given that discord is a thing. The character sheets is where I'm sort of left in a bit of a wtf mode. Granted, there are more stat slots now than when this vid went live. I guess what I'm trying to iron out is how to incorporate a newer ttrpg, Apotheosis into this given that, though it has similarities w/D&D, it's has some major differences. Anyone know of a good character sheet program that can be added into the game? I like this product given that it's a complete program versus a base for heavy monetization.

@gametender1

Жыл бұрын

You could always have your players have an actual character sheet then just stream the game or if you want to keep the gm mode private buy it for someone else as well have them stream and then you can move all the pieces etc. you would have to use the hand books for now which isn a big deal cause you can get them digitally or just have a set up in front of you since no one will see it.

@ObscuriaDragunAed

Жыл бұрын

@@gametender1 Yeah, I was contemplating the separate sheets, issue with that is there's not too much use in using the app that I couldn't accomplish with something else. It's a bit of a moot point, I think, both the Author of Apotheosis and deve for Talespire expressed interest, but, all I was there for in that case was to make that connection, it seems that neither of them decided to for whichever reason, nothing against either of them, both are pretty busy I'm sure. Thanks for the suggestions either way. It's appreciated.

do players and DM need to purchase tale spire?

@TheDungeonNewbsGuide

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately yeah, everyone who wants to play will need to purchase their own copy. Worth it, I think, if you feel like your group would use it a lot, but just to try out can be a bit pricey.

I love everything but the water

You also forgot to mention should they get it now they can learn right now how to make brilliant boards, people like me are not as able to put creativity to paper or mouse, We can have great images in our heads but getting it whilst in early access has helped me to get mu h better with creating my boards, also I force myself not to be indecisive about it and try to go with what I put

so no automation or anything? I have Fantasy Grounds already so.....yeahhhh

It's a shame they don't support VR yet.

Theres actually a cyberpunk and futuristic tileset stretchgoal that was met during the kickstarter, so thats 100% going to happen eventually

I was about to get this (I’m the DM), but making all the players buy it too? That’s counterproductive

@TheDungeonNewbsGuide

3 жыл бұрын

I would say that if you knew you and your players would definitely use it a lot, it's a reasonable investment. But yeah, right now, it is totally fair to hold of and see how it grows and develops. To see if it is something you would actually get a lot of use out of. I really love it, but half my players play remotely via chromebooks or tablets, soooo I'm not exactly getting a ton of use out of it right now

@Bennyladd1

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheDungeonNewbsGuide I gave in and bought it anyway haha

@TheDungeonNewbsGuide

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bennyladd1 Hehe! It IS hard to resist! Hope you get some fun use out of it!

@Bennyladd1

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheDungeonNewbsGuide thank you! I’m thinking of doing an Eberron campaign next so will probably start setting that up. Do you know if there’s any community eberron maps I could get for it?

@TheDungeonNewbsGuide

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bennyladd1 I'm not certain, but the best two places to check are these community map/block sites... talesbazaar.com/search?title=modular talestavern.com/ They have a ton of resources! I should really put these links in the video description! In fact...

Well it looks neat and all. However, without character sheets, notes, and modern pieces, I’ll stick with Tabletop Simulator.

@giftedfox4748

Жыл бұрын

Even after a year, there is still no character sheets, notes, or anything to help the GM out. It isn't hard to create a character sheet since other VTT software have done so already so I am guessing they don't plan on adding it in unless they are forced too.

666 like, wild

wow roleplay is still superior I think ...

I genuinely don't understand the love people have towards TaleSpire. It's a slick looking map-building program with extremely limited(and I'd argue in-the-end useless) TTRPG features that requires that everyone in your party purchases it. And then you have to still run some auxiliary programs on top of that to actually be able to play an RPG. Compare that to pretty much any other fully functional VTT program on the market and this falls reeeeeeeeeeeeally far off the mark. It lacks so much features that are necessary for a program to even be considered a VTT, it's kinda ridiculous. The fans of the product will tell you "Oh, but the devs have promised us X, Y and Z!" and that doesn't matter in the slightest. We're buying the software now, in it's current condition, not in the hypothetical future that may or may not come to fruition. The current iteration of the software is so painfully lacking in VTTRPG functionality that it is nothing more than a glorified map maker. And on top of that, it's one of those things that makes running the game even *more* complicated than it already is. The price of entry for the whole party is ridiculously disproportional when you actually consider at what is offered, and what else you could get with that money instead in the realm of VTT. Maybe this will be worth it in the future, I truly hope so. The map-building portion of TaleSpire is really cool and there is a lot of nifty tech behind it. But as a VTT? Naw.

@TheDungeonNewbsGuide

3 жыл бұрын

That's a totally fair assessment! As I've said to people, I would never use this for my major campaigns. The lack of support for all of the nitty gritty stuff, character sheets, journals, etc...TaleSpire just does not have what I need. I think the love comes from the fact that it really brings the feel of a high quality, real-life tabletop to remote play. I'm no graphics snob, but there is honestly something that just feels really amazing about moving your miniature around a 3 dimensional town, with stories to buildings, sewers below, and hills in the neighboring forest. For a lot of folks, I think having that 3D map to explore can be a lot of fun. I already have some amazing smaller campaign and one-shot ideas that I think would be a ton of fun to play in TaleSpire. Could another vtt do them better? I dunno, probably hehe. But again, I get where you are coming from. It really is minimalistic at this point, and if every player is going to have to buy a copy to play that is really important to consider. But I think some groups will have a lot of fun with it, especially if you are playing with a rules-lite system like Fate or something, where there isn't that much system stuff to integrate anyway. Thanks for the viewpoint though! I think that's an important perspective a lot of folks would agree with!

@Esanssi10

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheDungeonNewbsGuide Yeah, I can see the graphics definitely being a pull. Everything in it does look really, really nice. Which is exactly why I was really disappointed when I found out that was pretty much it. Will be keeping an eye on TS though, it does have an awful lot of potential if they do manage to keep to all they have planned for the future.

@jakeford9896

3 жыл бұрын

Dude there's 2 Devs and 4 not being paid so what's your problem support them you won't regret it in the long run

@Esanssi10

3 жыл бұрын

@@jakeford9896 Putting money into something that doesn't currently meet 90% of the criteria for a VTT would be quite dumb. The program is not an investment. If they some day implement the stuff you actually need to run a virtual tabletop RPG, I'll just get it then.

@Meitricide

3 жыл бұрын

@@jakeford9896 There are children starving in Africa so what's your problem send them food you won't regret it in the long run.