For those that were still waiting for it, I'm sorry to say that I've decided to cancel the Tales of Zestiria critique. The more I thought about it, the more I realized that it no longer fit the current trajectory of the channel and that on a personal level, I simply had no desire to work on it or videos of that nature anymore. I apologize to those that were looking forward to the rest of the video series, but I feel it's best for me to drop it and move on. I hope everyone reading this can understand and respect my wishes.

Thanks for the upload. Zestiria was my first Tales of game, and while I did find a lot of it frustrating, it had enough things going for it that I did want to see more of the series. I absolutely loved Mikleo and Edna, the skits, and most importantly that freakin' soundtrack! Looking forward to the next video!

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you liked it!

Gamers: haha the water temple in ocarina of time was so bad right? Tales of zestiria: hold my beer

@DanielSantosAnalysis

3 жыл бұрын

I'd rather go through the Water Temple in Ocarina of Time twice in a row than do even half of the Water Temple in Zestiria.

@mercurialgirl

Ай бұрын

That water trial music is some of my favourite in the game, otherwise that dungeon and those eyes would have KO’d me.

I've always felt a certain "something" in the series was missing from Xillia onward, bit could never put my finger on it, but the environment designs are very much a huge part of it, and it's refreshing to finally have that quantified. I actually like Zesteria a good bit more than most, and I do absolutely LOVE running around in the overworld. The Water Temple, however, can go burn in the deepest pit of hell :)

@SuiteLifeofDioBrando

4 жыл бұрын

Xillia 2 and Berseria were great imo

@HybridAngelZero

4 жыл бұрын

@@SuiteLifeofDioBrando I've definitely enjoyed all of the games post-Xillia, don't get me wrong, but they still felt like something was intangibly missing. That doesn't make any of the games bad at all

@ArgyleGamer

4 жыл бұрын

Micaiah the Otaku Gamer [HybridAngelZero] Perhaps it was the fixed camera while you explored towns and dungeons... free moving cameras sometimes means big, empty space and I think that gave Xillia more of that drab feeling.

@sometwatwithtoomuchfreetim3842

4 жыл бұрын

ArgyleGamer The fixed camera just does it at least for me

Making this right as I’m playing Zesteria! I’m 50 hours in and I actually love this game.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

That's cool, hopefully I don't ruin the experience for you with my complaints, hah.

Tales of Zestiria was my first Tales of game and actually made me like the series. I have played Berseria and part of Vesperia, and I still find Tales of Zestiria to be my favorite out of the three. I am glad people still talk about this game, I just wish most of it would be more positive as opposed to negative. But I suppose all games have their critics. Anyways, great video! :)

@DanielSantosAnalysis

3 жыл бұрын

My criticism comes from a place of love, I deeply empathize with the developers and I have no doubt that they simply wanted to make the best game they could, but the end result was something that, as a long time fan, I felt wasn't as good as it ideally should've been.

@chickhicks6341

3 жыл бұрын

It's unfair the way they dissect this game. It's my first game too, and nothing can change my mind about it. The more they hate, the more I love.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

3 жыл бұрын

@@adrianarius9802 This is not about hatred, I was disappointed with the game and I felt the need to express myself. Blind praise is regressive, the developers can't grow if their games are showered with praise, criticism is necessary for the series to evolve. If you enjoy the game and disagree with my videos on it however, that is totally fair and I respect your opinion.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

3 жыл бұрын

@@chickhicks6341 I disagree that my dissection is unfair and you're wrong, this is not about hatred, I love the Tales series and that's why I made this video the way I did, I wouldn't have made this video if I didn't care. You're of course free to disagree with the video, but please do not misconstrue my intentions.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

3 жыл бұрын

@@adrianarius9802 If a game is weak and has problems, it's important to point them out so that the devs can learn and do better. This is a video game, not a person, not a family member, a product made by a company You've crafted a strange narrative, I've met plenty of old fans that liked Zestiria and newcomers that got turned away from the series altogether because of it aswell. You make it seem like all the new players love it and it's just old-timers like me that are complaining when that's just not true. Also, I never scandalized Hideo Baba, in fact I made a video defending him because his mistreatment was uncalled for. Honestly, it's not my intention at all to make anyone feel bad for enjoying the game, which is why I haven't made fun of you, or anyone for enjoying it. If you love the game, by all means, continue to do so. That's not what I said in the video, this is what I said: "As a side note, it honestly breaks my heart whenever someone tells me that Zestiria is their first Tales of game as it usually results in me trying to explain to them why they should still give the series a chance" I had friends approach me, saying that Zestiria was their first Tales game and it turned them off from the series entirely, that's where the line in the video comes from. I don't know if you misheard or misunderstood me, but you make it seem like I am broken up over this being people's first entry in the series, when it's clear that what I am actually sad about, is people giving up on the series entirely due to Zestiria. I tried to speak with Turquoise Moon multiple times, I tried talking things out and being reasonable with her, but instead she was aggressive, insulting, disrespectful, made completely baseless accusations and got into multiple arguments with other people, I don't see how her behaviour was at all acceptable. What? Rage? If you think I'm angry then I honestly don't know what to tell you because that's not the case, I don't see how anything I've said would've given you that impression. Anyways, I hope this clears things up, I don't have any interest in getting into long, drawn out backs and forths over this, it's just a game, it's not worth getting upset over.

I never played Zestiria but let me get the popcorn ready!!!

@Rex13013

4 жыл бұрын

I have played it, but pass that popcorn mate.

@zeroXshinobi

4 жыл бұрын

Gps1337 🤣

Zestiria was my first Tales game and, after played 50+ hours on it, I couldn't be more excited to try out Berseria, Vesperia and the other popular titles in the series

There are not many videos talking about the game, which is sad. I'm glad you made these videos. I really enjoy Zestiria, and it's always sad seeing the abandonment this game receives. Even now.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

9 ай бұрын

Even though I am fairly critical of the game, I'm glad you found enjoyment in my videos regardless.

It's always a great day when we get an in-depth analysis from shintai. Even though I have never played Zesteria my best friend has played this game and he absolutely swears by it because to him it is his favorite entry in the tales series which seems so weird since it was such a heavily divided game with regards to the tales fans.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

That's cool if your friend swears by it, I personally don't like Zestiria very much but I do acknowledge that there are aspects of it that people can enjoy.

Very stoked for this series! Part 1 was incredible!

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you enjoyed it!

I really like Zestiria a ton. I didnt know it was a hated entry. Its so very refreshing and uniquely different than most of the series. I would have absolutely loved randomly generated dungeons though.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say it's flat out hated, it's more mixed than anything else. I do think it succeeds in certain ways but overall I think it's a terrible game if I'm being honest.

@Clesarie

4 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis to be fair I never played more than around 7 hours into it. So a lot of your dungeon impression are thing that will probably grate on me. I liked the semi open worldish feel and that it felt like it was trying to evolve the series forward. Comparing the dungeon locals leaves a lot to be desired though

@DnVFMVs

Жыл бұрын

probably because u like playing walking simulator

@kobiblade

Жыл бұрын

What is refreshing and new in Zestiria? The story is slow, short, uninteresting and the combat is overcomplicated. The game has nothing going for it in comparison to the other Tales games. Which is pretty much where all the hate is coming from, Zestiria as a game is ok, as a Tales game is horrible.

@Alpheus_09C

Жыл бұрын

Just finished zesty a few minutes ago with tears in my eyes. I love it, very much. The first tales game I finished.

Been waiting for this video for so long. Can't wait to finally watch it. I hope you'll be able to talk about Berseria sometime too.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

I have some ideas for Berseria, although it wont be a multi-part critique, it will be something that focuses on a single topic instead.

I can't wait to see the rest of these, you're one of the best gaming analysts around hands down!

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

Aw, shucks

Zestiria was my first Tales of game. But it sparked my love for tales of and because of Zestiria i got all Tales of games i could get. I understand that i has some flaws and some plot holes or Story threads that could have been handled better, but After Final fantasy 13 i Was so disappointed in JRPGs that i didnt Pick one up until one day i randomly grabed zestiria. I think the hate for this game (and Symphonia 2) is mostly emotional nonsense. I havent played a Tales of game that wasnt awesome, fun and had great lovable charakters and a Story that satisfied me. This series is a blast and i hope they releas all games for steam some day.

I didn't know test of zestria was part of a series I dunno I'm a simple guy I liked tales of zestria wouldn't mind getting into it like fate

I still remember when you promised to make a review of the game but I wasn't expecting a so detailed and deep analysis. It took some years but was worthy. I can't wait for part 2. Great Job.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

I hope it was worth the wait! Part 2 should be next month.

10/10 video, 2013 Shintai is back with good old Tales of content ❤️ you were the main reason why I got into the Tales of series back in 2013 man, my favorite JRPGs series for 7 years now, got every mothership title that has an American release!

@chimeratcg07

4 жыл бұрын

PS: I forgot that now you go by your real name on KZread.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

Don't worry about it, a lot of people still call me that. I met a fellow youtuber in real life once and even they couldn't help but call me Shintai instead of my real name.

@chimeratcg07

4 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis It's okay man, I hope you do a analysis/review video of Tales of Berseria sometime in the future, that game really save the Tales of series and brought back some of the old school content that the series had.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

@@chimeratcg07 I have some ideas for a Berseria video, although I think it's gonna be one where I focus on the relationship between Velvet and Laphicet, since it was my favorite part of the game.

Hopefully, Arise might be the revival of the series.

@ArgyleGamer

4 жыл бұрын

Berseria was already a step in the right direction and a huge improvement over Zestiria. My only concern is that I hope Arise doesn’t stray too far from the Tales formula.

@227someguy

4 жыл бұрын

@@ArgyleGamer word. Berseria was a really good game. It got to the point where the next JRPG I played (kingdom hearts 3) was very disappointing in comparison.

@morriganrenfield8240

2 жыл бұрын

It was.

@Ultimokingofblades

2 жыл бұрын

@@morriganrenfield8240 I have to agree with you, I love it so much

@morriganrenfield8240

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ultimokingofblades it’s my GOTY

I dont even remember how long i waited for this video

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

My bad, I hope you like it, lol.

@carlmaggio2862

4 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis nah im just happy you finally came out with it, i think you mentioned it in final boss podcast but i know you mentioned it multiple times in backlog battle, so its awesome to see the notification of the upload.

Tales of is my favorite series (behind Ys and Trails series), but Zesteria felt lackluster from the environments to writing quality and even gameplay mechanics. Thankfully Beseria was a step in the right direction.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

I am so glad for Berseria, it renewed my faith in the series.

@timidalchemist8475

4 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis yeah, partially, I am kinda glad baba left even though he made the series mainstream in the west for his contribution to the series, but I felt he didn't understand what direction he wanted with the series until he left Bamco, which then the series came back with beseria by having great characters and environments beside it being a prequel to Zesteria, which makes worse since Zesteria gameplay is so wonky.

@omensoffate

2 жыл бұрын

@@timidalchemist8475 berseria was boring

Good video. I am probably the most unlucky person with the Tales franchise ever. My first game on it was Symphonia: Dawn of the New World, and the second one was Zestiria. You are hitting on very good points on why I can't even bring myself to finish these.

@gumi6751

4 жыл бұрын

Yikes man, you really choosed the worst points to get into the series

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

I would say those are the two worst entries in the series by a country mile.

@TriangleSmooth

Жыл бұрын

That's tough. I still say Legendia is the worst. The battle system has a button input delay, and no coop, graphics were pretty good IMO. Music was a boss. The second part of the game is FHSDHFBSDHB!77d!!@@#n. Yet somehow my PSN account name is Legendia....Maybe I secretly love Legendia....idk anymore.

At my first playthrough of Zestiria, I always wonder into places and I commonly felt like "Am I supposed to go to this dungeon right now?" And then I faced a monster +20 level higher than me, telling me that I'm not in the right place. That's not how you supposed to design a game world! You gotta make sure that the player is guided to the right place, because you're playing an open world game with linear game progression. There are also some Mutanized Hellions which are quite powerful by the time to see it, so then you skip it so then you fight it later. But then after you return, it seriously underpowered compared to your party which now already significantly leveled up. Thankfully all of this was fixed in Berseria. Bamco outright made the areas separated so then you can't go everywhere you like, and unlock areas by progression. Also Code Red monsters are properly leveled against the party by the time you see it, so you can fight them at an equal ground.

I've waited for this for so long. I guess it's better late than never.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

I hope you enjoy it, Part 2 is in the works.

I did like the open environments of Zestiria and not transitioning into a separate battle screen, though this did have problems in cramped places. It's been a while, and I didn't finish it but I got the vibe that Berseria took a step back on the good points. I just remember generic caves and world areas that didn't feel as open. It looks like Arise will be trying to push forward with those again, though.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

Berseria absolutely put the series back on track.

This was very interesting, I never drew the connection between the bland dungeons and the free-roaming camera introduced in Xillia. Maybe because I did not attribute the trend of linear environmental design to Xillia per se. One of my biggest problems with Graces (which still had fixed camera angles) was exactly its immersion-breaking hallway-style overworld, and thought that this ‘philosophy’ had simply carried over to the Xillias and Zestiria. Xillia had some memorable and complex dungeons like Gandala and the ESS Zenethra, but I do agree that dungeon design has been on a steep decline for the past several games (since Graces or even before). The elemental temples in Zestiria were a very welcome step up for that reason, they brought some interconnected spatial reasoning back combined with stellar music. Flaming Bonds is up there with my favourite tracks in the franchise.

youve earned my sub cant wait for the next part, I hope youll mention the god awful armor and weapons systems

Yay a new video by you! Been a long time since the last time(not that I'm blaming you or anything :)) I really have a hard time liking Zesteria. I played about 20 hours and it is the only Tales of game that I've given up on. I didn't enjoy the game play nor the characters beside Edna and Alisha. Tales of is one of my fav franchise along with Yakuza so I was so disappointed by the game. Tales of Beseria fixed a lot of the issues I had with Zesteria but I really disliked all the dungeons in the game. There were sooo many caves 🤷‍♀️

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

I love Berseria, but I agree that the dungeons weren't that good, but they were at least better than the ones in Zestiria.

@omdhdk

4 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis that's true. What did you think about the games soundtrack?

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

For Zestiria? I thought it was mostly fine, but the tracks composed by Go Shiina specifically are wonderful. Berseria's music isn't quite as good but is still solid.

@omdhdk

4 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis on both of them. I agree most of the tracks were quite meh.

Great video. Cant wait for Part 2

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

Coming soon!

@DanielSantosAnalysis

3 жыл бұрын

Part 2 is out!

I personally loved the water temple. It took a while, but I found it challenging and fun. When I replayed it years later the water temple took by far the least amount of time, because I got the hang of the gimmick. I really didn’t think it was that hard either. If you failed you could use a teleporter, which acted as a checkpoint. And I loved the music, it was super chill. Great video with many good points though!

I'm playing Zestiria right now and yes, it IS my first Tales game. But I'm well aware it's not representative, so no need for a broken heart! And to be honest, I'm 15 hours in and I begin to really like it somehow 😄

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

If you enjoy it, that's totally cool.

@Livingtree32

4 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis The next one I will try will be Tales of Phantasia on GBA

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

@@Livingtree32 If you can emulate the PS1 version, that's the better version to play.

@Livingtree32

4 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysisOK, thanks! I'll keep it in mind.

@chickhicks6341

3 жыл бұрын

It's the best tales game for me, I don't care about the combat or whatever, there are other great things about it that I love. And I love Sorey as a character, he gets too much hate, but for me he's my best MC. Haters give me stress, they don't have to be rude when they disagree.

This was interesting and everything you said is true, but...I still enjoyed Zestiria, even more than the first Xillia and some other entries actually. Also I think the water temple was the most interesting dungeon in the game lol

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

Huh, can't say I agree with Zestiria being better than Xillia, but hey, you do you fam.

@SuiteLifeofDioBrando

4 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed Zestiria, but not as much as Xillia.

Zestiria was my first Tales game and even though it had problems, i liked it enough, mostly because of the party members. I think Berseria was a pretty big improvement though.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

Berseria is a huge improvement.

No kidding I remember being excited about the dungeons. I started to dread coming across a secret one.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

3 жыл бұрын

Dungeons in Tales of games haven't been good since Graces f.

Zestiria as a Tales game, I admit doesn’t live up to the high expectations But looking at Zestiria in isolation, it’s still pretty good and don’t regret having it be the first Tales game I finished (emphasis on finished, Symphonia was my first I played) The world sucks though, Namco get a better map designer(s)

@DanielSantosAnalysis

3 жыл бұрын

Regardless of my disdain for the title, I'm glad it got you into the series!

@makotoyuki345

3 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis and I’m just glad that people here are so understanding

For each game. Zest was probably about as bad as Symphonia 2 in being too big while Emil's game was too small even on the Wii. I liked Emil and Marta more anyways as they are a pretty good team and I wish everyone in the 2 cast would work great in another main game. Xillia was my first tales game and did a good job in showing me how he game series goes but didn't need two paths as cut away would have been fine for Jude and millia. Overall abyss xillia graces and vesperia were my favorite in the series for each being great in some way seeing graces having the best combat system. Abyss and xillia the best villains who would make heroes for themselves as the God generals and chimeriad were great people in story overall while vesperia in the weapon system was great so I hope Arise does a mix of them all being huge.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

Tales of Berseria was a huge return to form after Zestiria, so I have confidence in Arise being another great game in the series.

@ivanbluecool

4 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis yeah bersteria did wonders for the zesteria world in actually making a world and how well it connected to everything while being overall great. Velvet many new fans think is the best but like xillia I feel it's a gateway game to introduce fans to the series. Still one of my favorites but not the best overall compared to graces gameplay or abyss and xillia in enemy characterization as I though all the games made enemies who feel like main characters with complete kits and backstory like the god general and chimeriad being the best overall group to mirror the main cast having one on one rivals overall. Bersteria enemies should have been fought more as Oscar was empty with 2 fights same as his sister and they had many chances for it.

@tigerfestivals5137

4 жыл бұрын

Graces really was the most fun for me and felt like the most skill based since it felt like there were reliable ways to dodge or avoid most enemy attacks. Idk why they never went back to a system like that but i suppose Berseria was kinda similar.

@ivanbluecool

4 жыл бұрын

@@tigerfestivals5137 zesteria was promoted with the system of graces but it was much slower while bersteria kinda broken in velvet being unkillable with her skill. Gameplay wise graces is the best at wanting the player to be active and the whole cast being attack and supoort based plus the limit break and team np was great. Story was cute overall being a family and kid versions was one of the best things it ever did to connect to the cast better. Gameplay wise in order of best. Graces abyss xillia vesperia bersteria Symphonia are my favorite in combat system. Abyss is the system I like in simple limit breaks being seperate for fun while graces cheria is broken in time stop while xillia Jude is the most powerful character main as he is the group healer and combat fighter so much so he and Leia got nerfed in 2 for it. But yeah I like them a lot overall and even the spin off games do it great.

@SuiteLifeofDioBrando

4 жыл бұрын

Symphonia 2 was great imo. Replayed it recently. Edit: The ps3 version

It wasn't my first entry but I kinda like it. Its a "meh" game and as you explained very clear. It's sad to see so many potential lost.

Well earned subscribe! Great analysis, shoutout to Clemps for directing me here through twitter!

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't even realize he retweeted my video, what a good dude! I'm glad you liked the video!

I thought Zestiria lacked humor for the most part.

I still have PTSD from the water temple.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

Жыл бұрын

I think we all do.

Good video. Thanks.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Berseria was my first Tales of game. While the gameplay was nice and story was intriguing, I found the dialogue to be some of the most amateurish I've seen in gaming. Even the MC was so unrelentingly edgy that I assumed they were compensating for something. Given that Berseria is seen as a good one in the series, I feel skeptical of the franchise. Hopefully Tales of Arise will be more to my taste. Cool video tho, will look forward to your future videos.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

Hm, can't say I agree with you on Berseria at all. I'm glad you liked my video though.

I feel zesteria was where they tried to change a lot even calling it "zest" proves it. Overall it was a below average game of the tales series with what they tried with Alicia making her a semi dlc character and it still wasn't good anyways as Alicia was pushed as a tomboy yet Rose was better at it anyways. The world felt empty at how barren it was and bersteria glad it took the world and did it better overall seeing an actual world

@SuiteLifeofDioBrando

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@ivanbluecool

4 жыл бұрын

@@SuiteLifeofDioBrando yeah I'm actually glad the dlc story idea died so fast(even though I got it or free) and it was a mistake that needed to be ended before it began. Plus this shows best at how older games didn't have dlc and free swimsuits and alt outfits were all around so you had to work for them which made them even better. Graces had the best outfits overall while abyss Luke's style is amazing himself and vesperia lots of unused outfits I wanted(Estelle's dress Rita's mage outfit and ravens knight form) But yeah Luke's saber outfit. Cherias white dress and Hubert's punk style plus Sophie's Lolita form are my favorite designs.

Where are the other parts?? I was so excited to delve into the others.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

3 жыл бұрын

Part 2 is being edited, the script for Part 3 is done, they're coming!

@Flareboxx

3 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis Awesome! I was worried they may not be coming since this part was done 3 months ago :)

@DanielSantosAnalysis

3 жыл бұрын

Part 2 is out!

@Flareboxx

3 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis Yay!!

Honestly? This was my first tales game and i absolutely loved it, it got me to try berseria too and now I'm curious to see what else the franchise has in store.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

2 жыл бұрын

Tales of Arise recently dropped, I haven't finished it quite yet, but I've enjoyed what I played of it.

@shortbreadhead

Жыл бұрын

I'm so happy you are now interested in an amazing series! People tend to forget that a bad tales game in their eyes is still a better game than some crap out there, and no matter what, it'll be special to many for the exact same reason as you. I've played (almost) every tales of game, and I enjoyed this for my own reasons, no one can take that from me. I'm a positive person who tends to look for the good in everything, not ignoring the problems, not overlooking them, acknowledging them. (That fucking water dungeon though, that can eat a dick) I can enjoy "mediocore" as a comfort, a safe and familiar experience I can relax to. I don't need to play the best of the best all the time, I want to play them all and see how I feel. Hope you're enjoying the games if you're playing/went on to play any :D

Shintai, is that you? I don't recognize this channel name but either way, really loved the video!

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

Yup it's me, I decided to stop calling myself Shintai.

@RPGFReeKZ

4 жыл бұрын

Oh ok. Can't wait for the next part!

@Clesarie

4 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis I think this move. Get the recognition you deserve with your real name.

Soooooo Zestiria was my first Tales game, but after getting 15 hours in, I got stuck and kinda gave up. I like the story and world (I really enjoyed the anime), but the gameplay for me was... eh. I then played Hearts R and that made me question why I even had a Vita in the first place, then I played Berseria. After 50 hours and audibly crying at the end, I grew to respect the series as a whole. I eventually want to go through the other games, but Berseria really brought me in.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't get far in Hearts R either, it was probably the blandest Tales game I've ever played. I'm glad Berseria showed you how great the series can be though!

Ah Tales of Zesteria (ps4) This game is the second game I played in the series, with the first being Tales of vesperia 2x (XB360&XB1). They are my favorite games they were what got me into the series Then I got in to Tales of Berseria (ps4) and Tales of Xillia 1&2 (ps3). Then I got into Tales of Graces F (ps3) and Tales of Symponia Chronicles (ps3). Now I'm playing Tales of the Abyss (ps2) and Tales of Legendia (ps2) and I already bought/prepaid for Tales of Arise (ps4) I love them all so far it's a good series

@SOLAR-FLARE

4 жыл бұрын

i just wish I hadn't played them back to back. I was beating each one week after week, I felt really spent. It was not a good idea lol. I wish I just took time with them

great video and yet the only thing I can't shake is the uncertainty of the question: Is that thing at 17:41 a golem or a earth elemental? It's these little things that make you ponder.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

Fairly certain it's a Golem.

@knightmareAlpha

4 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysisnot even the monster selection seams fitting. I mean, yes, fantasy has dragged golems out of it's original context already more then enough. However it feels especially out of place here. A earth elemental would be more fitting, but that's the way it goes I guess.

Feel really weird about the entire arrangement being that one person who's first tales of game was Zestiria and ended up loving it enough that I'm here 6 years later after my initial experience still having it close to my heart and thinking about it, while trying to give the other games in the series chance. Initially being very excited and now reluctantly trying to go through those that I already bought. None of it really sticking to me like zestiria did. But I imagine it's some pretty unique circumstances mixed with the type of person I am that it just resonated with me. Am I saying it's perfect? Hell no, but it's something *for me*

@DanielSantosAnalysis

2 жыл бұрын

As someone that really, really does not like Zestiria, (as if it wasn't already obvious based on the videos) I want to make it clear that these videos are not meant to demean or invalidate anyone's experience with the game. While I do find it sad that the other games don't do it for you as I think there's so much the series has to offer outside of Zestiria, if you love the game, that's great and I'm glad it means a lot to you. Hopefully you come around to the other games and they start to click with you in the way Zestiria has.

I never had a problem with it, i just haven't finished it yet lol

I recently bought Zestiria and Berseria and while I do like Zestiria more currently and I would say it's my top five Tales games (Symphonia, Destiny,Abyss, and Vesperia being the other 4) and Alisha is one of my favorites in the franchise (yikes) I can see some extremely bad things objectively about this game. The one thing that I see that reviewers never is while the camera is really atrocious and battles are spread out has anybody ever notice they put monsters where walls and trees were? like you had all this room all this empty room but no you want to put the monsters in the middle of three trees behind a rock wall.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

I touch on the camera issues in Part 2, which should be coming out sometime this month.

Just a little thing to mention I believe Tales of Destiny 2 came out before Symphonia so you should have mentioned the Destiny remake and Rebirth as well. Good stuff I always did prefer the fixed cameras and I say that as someone who started with the Xillia games.

Oh dear. Here we go.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

Oh yes

22:17 Making it where they stopped marking it was such a dumb thing they did lol

Excellent attention to detail, man! Oddly enough, though, while I did find Zestiria's water temple to be annoying, I preferred it to virtually any "dungeon" in Symphonia. I've only played through Symphonia once, and I've never had the willpower to try it again because those puzzles put me off so badly. When I was playing Zestiria, I thought to myself "Yeah, these dungeons are bland, but at least they're not pissing me off." =p Of course, Zestiria's story was a whole 'nother matter.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

2 жыл бұрын

I like most of the dungeons in Symphonia, some were ostensibly annoying, but I largely enjoyed the puzzles, it gave the dungeons an extra layer of complexity and made them more engaging to go through.

@Mr._Matt

2 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis True. I ordinarily like puzzles, but I suppose what put me off about the Symphonia dungeons were two things: the interruptions of combat encounters each time I tried to focus on a puzzle (or am I wrong? It's been a couple of years now), having to run through the dungeon to try something new to solve a puzzle in dungeons with puzzles spanning multiple rooms, and the general concept of the game being an RPG, yet your attributes do not help you in any way, shape or form, instead relying on IRL "attributes" as the sole means of affecting this part of the game.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mr._Matt Well, you can pretty easily avoid enemies, so I didnt find that to be a problem, I also don't really see why your in-game stats should affect how you solve puzzles? That would honestly be way worse, I shouldn't have to grind my characters to certain stats just to finish a puzzle.

@Mr._Matt

2 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis My in-game stats affect how much damage magic and attacks do, etc., whereas how hard I can punch or slash something IRL has no impact on the game world. Similarly, it would be nice to use a character's intelligence or puzzle-solving skills to resolve the puzzles instead of my own. In fact, that's how many Western games handle puzzles in RPGs. Imagine applying Raine's or Genis' intellects to a puzzle instead of our own. =)

@DanielSantosAnalysis

2 жыл бұрын

Gonna have to respectfully disagree, while I don't think it's an inherently poor idea because as you say there are western RPGs that utilize it, I personally don't think it works with Tales specifically. I think that type of system makes more sense in Western RPGs, because those games are more directly inspired by the mechanics of tabletop RPGs, wherein many elements outside of combat are dictated by stats and dice rolls, such as persuading someone or being able to lockpick a door, which isn't as common in most JRPGs.

I want to point out that the team admitted they didnt use the PS4 because of lack of experience, so I think that was a core problem. They had ideas that they were too afraid to use the potentially stronger hardware but also were too ambitious for what they had.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

Huh, that's interesting and does make sense given how the game turned out.

I'll say, while zestiria doesn't have the best gameplay, I've been replaying it again recently and the battles aren't that bad, I've actually been having fun with them, it's just a game where you won't be hard comboing and making a ton of button presses to do so, it's more so chill gameplay, you do a combo and the enemies do an attack, you take turns and in your turn you do your best to dodge all damage The only thing that really annoys me about the game is that armatization doesn't feel like an option but something you absolutely need to use, no questions asked, if you want to stand a chance against enemies, even if they don't have an elemental weakness, you just do much more damage and have around 2x your regular hp while armatizes, it's ridiculous. Anyways, other than that, the only other complaint I can think about is that the combat can become stale rather quick, due to the combat not being very deep, but in 20+ hours so far I've not run into that issue But the strengths of zestiria, in my opinion, is the story, I'm about 2/3 of the way through and the story is so much better than I remember, it tells a tale of a man who has been put into the role of a martyr willingly but without fully knowing what that entails and the story explores that theme and doesn't pull any punches against sorey, from extortion, to manipulation, to impossible decisions, to forgiveness, this game has been impressing me with the quality of the story. Lastly, no surprise here, but the characters are amazing, Edna's dynamic with the whole group is amazing, dezel's story is great, lailah can be a goofball when if comes to the oath, yes, but she also knows when to be serious and be there for people, rose is the boss, even characters that you think would be generic like mikleo and sorey are great and have their own quirks that make them stand out from the rest, sorey might be pure, but he isn't naive, Mikleo might get made fun of a lot but he also retaliates sometimes, not letting people make him the core of the joke all the time. All in all from what I've played so far I think I gave zestiria too much slack, yes the fusing mechanic is annoying and yes the combat isn't as engaging as other tales games, but the story and characters are still great and might I say close to the best the series have to offer

I did a lot of quick-saving in the water dungeon, so that I could reload when I got sent back to the entrance. It was very annoying.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

3 жыл бұрын

One of the worst dungeons in the series.

The world design just reminds me of ff11 (a 2002 console mmo)

That water shrine was garbage but damn that music was so good

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

The music is WAY too good for that shrine.

Seems like it's really easy to mess up water temples.... like in zelda

14:00 Name of the ost?

@flambo19

4 жыл бұрын

I think its Bet Everything on the Lion's Roar from Zestiria

Absolutely nailed this topic. I hate what they did with the dungeons, and especially the lifeless, open world segments. And that water temple is hands down the worst dungeon in any Tales of game.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

The Water Temple is a dumpster fire.

@SuiteLifeofDioBrando

4 жыл бұрын

The ex dungeon of Symphonia 2 was worse. Also, phantasia had some awful dungeons.

@Kindara360SpadesPlays

4 жыл бұрын

@@SuiteLifeofDioBrando Didn't even know Symph 2 had an ex dungeon lol. Duly noted.

I know Zestiria wasn't the best in terms of writing but honestly my only real complaint about it was that it CHUGGED on pc. I definitely see why people dislike it though

@DanielSantosAnalysis

3 жыл бұрын

I didnt realize the PC version was so bad, you're the second person to mention this.

I love this game, and do want to play it again some day, but yes, So much lost potential, quite a flawed game.

I only ever played Xillia 1 but there are some things you pointed out in games that I hate, like samey looking environments with hardly any notable landmarks. The water dungeon sounds so rage inducing that I would probably drop the game right then and there.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's a bummer, level design used to be really good in this series, but it's been pretty bad for awhile now, here's hoping the new one fixes this.

Please Bamco...just put Tales of the Abyss on Steam....

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

I want it so bad.....

I've played tales of Fantasia didn't like it but I went back into the tales games with berseria and I recommend that game over the rest

@DanielSantosAnalysis

3 жыл бұрын

Which version of Phantasia did you play?

@GodlikeOCD

3 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis the SNES version when the first English patch came out.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

3 жыл бұрын

@@GodlikeOCD I never played that one, I played the PS1 remake and I enjoyed it quite a bit, I hear the PSP version is the definitve version but it's still only in Japanese unfortunately. I do agree Berseria is great though.

Those open maps look a bit too big to not have a mount.

I have a few questions about some stuff 1. I hear legendia audio drops at the end of the game like they just gave up on it is that true 2. why isn't rebirth in English yet 3. Is the first four in English (phantasia destiny 1&2 and eternia) 4. are the 2 vita game in English (hearts r and innocence) and are they worth playing

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

1. After you beat the base game, there are a series of character quests you can do afterwards, those quests are not voiced. I think saying they "gave up" isn't the right choice of words, it's more likely that it wasn't within the budget. 2. Probably just due to bad timing and because it was 2D game, so Namco might've suspected the game wouldn't do as well at the time compared to a 3D entry. 3. If you want to play an official copy, Phantasia on GBA is available, but is the worst version of the game, you can also play the SNES original and PS1 remakes of Phantasia if you're willing to emulate and patch them with fan translations. Destiny 1 is available in english, but not Destiny 2. Don't be confused with the Tales of Destiny 2 we received on the PS1, that game is actually Tales of Eternia, which you can also get on PSP. 4. Hearts R is in english, but not the Vita version of Innocence You can, however, play on an emulator, a fan made translation for the DS version of Innocence. I've personally not played Innocence yet, but I did play some of Hearts R and honestly I didn't like it very much. Hearts R is beloved by some fans though, so you might like it more than me.

@SOLAR-FLARE

4 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis thanks for letting me know and unfortunately I dont have a GBA or SNES to play them anyway but I think I'll get phantasia and destiny and eternia on ps1 sense I have a ps2 "gave up" was there words not mine I was told that the last quarter of the main game wasnt voiced and that they gave up on it guess i was misinformed

Dungeons in Berseria look pretty much the same though, and it is widely regarded as the best Tales game.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

2 жыл бұрын

Berseria is highly regarded moreso for its story and characters, that said the dungeons in Berseria are still a notable step up from what was in Zestiria.

#justacommentofappreciation

This game gets a little extra points cause its related to berseria

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

That's like sayin DMC2 gets extra points by being related to DMC1 and 3, I don't think it does, it's still a bad game regardless.

Me, a jungler main in lol: how is this slightly frustrating? Epic music, lots of fights, cool power ups, i even downloaded the water temple soundtrack because i got super hooked and this is one of the worst games? I NEED MOOOORE.

besides some dobius story choices i never got the hate on zersteria :shrug:

@SuiteLifeofDioBrando

4 жыл бұрын

Same for me though I disliked the story

Tales of Symphonia was a punching bag? I only played 3 tales games and I always got the impression symphonia was the most well known and the "face" of the series.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

Tales of Symphonia 2, not the first one.

How's the story? I always wanted the story every play RPG games

@DanielSantosAnalysis

2 жыл бұрын

It's medicore

@TehReasoning

Жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis Agreed it's absolutely terrible that it takes whole other game to fill it's plotholes and still looks bad. Then this game has issues trying to figure out who they want as main party members imo. You get one lose 1 get another lose 1 get another etc

More like tales of zestiribad

My personal least favorite game in the series. I’m really happy Berseria brought the series back, at least for me.

lel i liked Zestiria

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

That's cool, I am not trying to tell anyone they shouldn't like it, I'm just giving my perspective

@chickhicks6341

3 жыл бұрын

I liked it too. I don't care if it doesn't represent the other Tales... shouldn't they let us enjoy this game without stressing on all the negative opinions? The negative reviews are more stressful than the combat system itself, kkk.

Hey man glad to see a new video from you. Subscribed to you after your Star Ocean Integrity and etc. review and it was perfect. Would love to see more JRPG reviews with your enthusiasm!

Out of all films you could show. ...why like a dragon....not that I'm complaining

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

Because Yakuza is awesome, even if the movie itself is kinda lame.

@hollowman7168

4 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis agreed

Zestiria feels so lazily designed it's hard to believe it was a full priced release...

@DanielSantosAnalysis

3 жыл бұрын

I'm fairly certain this has nothing to do with laziness, it's far more likely that the devs were in over their heads and stretched themselves too thin on an overly ambitious project,

@Adam_U

3 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis yeah perhaps, and/or the deadlines for the anniversary release were too crippling

Funny thing is, the water temple is zero problem if u use more then 2 braincells at once 😅

@DanielSantosAnalysis

Ай бұрын

I appreciated your first comment, now you're being rude. It's fine to disagree with me, but this is not cool.

@RealEvilLordExdeath

Ай бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis im sorry, but thats just the truth. This "puzzle" isnt really a big Deal, u can turn your camera and see where eyes are, and no, they arent really hidden much. Its perfectly fine to go through the whole dungeon, without getting spottet once, as long as u use your camera. If that dungeon was a Problem for you, the Problem was you, not the game. Im sorry, but thats how it is.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

Ай бұрын

@@RealEvilLordExdeath I understand that you didn't have a problem with the dungeon, that's fine, but just because you didn't have the same problem, that doesn't mean others didn't or that their experiences are invalid. This wasn't just me, many people have told me that they also disliked the dungeon for the same reasons. Insulting other people's intelligence over a dungeon and acting like you're more intelligent is ridiculous behavior, be better than that.

@RealEvilLordExdeath

Ай бұрын

@@DanielSantosAnalysis no problem, just made me wonder, because older games like Symphonia for example have dungeon Puzzles that are a million times worse and such time wasters, most of them i just google because i don't have any joy doing them, So a Dungeon where all i have to do is "press button before going over some plates" is much less frustrating.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

Ай бұрын

@@RealEvilLordExdeath I didn't find any of Symphonia's dungeons to be as bad as the water temple in Zestiria. I'm not saying all the dungeons in Symphonia were great, but the water temple sticks out to me as being worse than anything in that game by comparison.

I got this game day one, I got to where Zaveid joins, and I just couldnt keep it up anymore. I just beat this game today after forcing myself to beat it to compare it to the X, the superior anime adaption IMO. I am the biggest fan of this series, I white knight all of the issues with each game to a degree. But this game's combat is so god awful that I couldnt keep playing it anymore at the time. Combined with the terrible balance of getting one shot by every boss, while simultaneuously doing pisspoor damage if you didnt grind hours and hours to make equipment good enough to hurt them, also makes it a slog. As well as enemies just armoring through combos midway, while also taking no damage, makes pacing of these fights with armored invincible attacks they throw at all times. I cant even comment on the story, other than to watch the X anime.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen the X anime yet, I've heard some mixed things, some say the game's story is better, some say the anime, I guess I'll see for myself whenever I get around to it.

That water temple is still the worst thing I've ever experienced in a video game.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

I've experienced worse........ but yeah it's pretty bad.

Zesteria has the best story imo, I totally love zesteria story, and it's funny!

Whole lotta shitty dungeons

The Tales developers need to play YS VIII and learn what real level design is all about. I think Tales is becoming dry and uninspired. I mean the series has always remained consistent throughout in many ways to the point that it can be difficult to distinguish them at times but the thing that is constantly changing is the combat system and the skill leveling systems. Tales Of Zesteria and Berseria both give the impression that the well has dried out. Both games have so much fluff it's crazy and kinda overbearing but the problem is that none of it really adds anything to the experience, it just feels like it's there to cover up the fact that it's "just another tales game" The silly thing is that the well hasn't dried out at all and that Tales has always remained consistent for better or worse, you know what you're getting into gameplay wise, there were minor tweaks but nothing that really broke away from the core of the game's design. Zesteria and Berseria are the two games that decided to break away from that core and that's why I don't enjoy the games anymore. I still think that deviating from the side view battle system was a mistake. There's way more potential in terms of flexibility when you only have to deal with side to side movement and it's that flexibility that allows for more combo variation than that of Star Ocean and YS. Plus the perspective was fixed to the side, sure you had Graces where you could move around but the camera was zoomed back far enough to the point that you could easily judge the distance between you and the enemies. In both Zesteria and Berseria the camera is right behind you. While this wouldn't be an issue in Star Ocean and YS which are both built with this in mind, in a Tales game it just feels wrong. Tales is all about using the directional inputs for executing different attacks but with this camera perspective, doing so feels really awkward to the point that Berseria outright removed it and replaced it with Valkyrie Profile controls which do not fit the nature of the game at all. As for the dungeons, they look like something I would make in the Skyrim Creation Kit. Just a giant maze of emptiness. It wouldn't take much effort to recreate most dungeons in the Skyrim Creation Kit at all. I will say though that the towns in modern Tales games have improved drastically. Fennmont looks absolutely stunning in Xillia. Vesperia's towns were so tiny despite the massive scope they had. Towns feel more alive in Tales games now and that's the only real saving grace in the level design department. I think Falcom have kinda taken a big shot at Namco this gen with YS VIII taking the real time ARPG throne from the Tales series and the fact that their games are getting really popular. Namco are going to have a much harder time competing now and I don't think Arise's new engine will be enough to maintain the series popularity streak but at the end of the day, Tales was absolutely dominating last generation so their reign kinda has to come to an end. I think the devs should reflect on the series more and figure out what can bring it back to its former glory.

@DanielSantosAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

A lot of stuff I vehemently disagree with, especially in regards to Berseria, but hey that's how you feel.