fyi,not mirror or radar,its stabilisation pad for hydraulic arms.We use them daily on hiab trucks as well. Most missile launchers need stabilising for accurate firing platform,to level.lol apollo lunar module had them too,funny as,cos zero dirt in them.,,wqhich negates film of module on moon being genuine.

@DefensePoliticsAsia

26 күн бұрын

haha! Thanks. I am totally not geeky about such technical stuffs. Pinning this.

@ImperativeGames

26 күн бұрын

Stabilization for firing and because ground may be uneven.

@herman60

26 күн бұрын

@@DefensePoliticsAsia nb im limited knowledge geek,but note that patriot/buk type systems have seperate radar vehicles,command control ops units vehicles. Which betrayed the erntire mh17 b/s story ,notwithstanding fact never is 1 only missile used on those ancient systems.Then entire narrative re su25 bs,when ukies had plethora of migs in air that day in same grid,and eyewitnesses inc vlad zacharchenko,givi amongst 100 others. LET ALONE 30MM CANNON SHELLS FOUND IN PILOT AND WRECKAGE, But thankyou for your massive input,genuine reporting commander,it is so needed and appreciated .

@cbhlde

26 күн бұрын

You obviously do not need those on flat earth! Which negates stabilization pad theory being genuine. So must be indeed very special secret radar as Commander logically deduced! See, how that works? :p

@jeffreyspinner5437

26 күн бұрын

Just because you don't see those parts, does IN NO WAY imply those weren't transferred separately and only this was observed by the public. Logical Fallacies used but not limited to: Tu Quoque, Proving Non-existence.

China must have acquired the patriots in order to study how NOT to design air defense equipment lol

@yosawin3018

26 күн бұрын

I mean having any SAM systems is still a very good thing regardless of whether it's good or not, they can pose threat to the PLAAF and needed to be taken care of, just don't expect them to intercept hypersonic stuffs (and idk abut its reliability). The MICs are looking to make money so the Americans are happy anyway. Plus, it's stupid to underestimate your enemies, don't be like the NAFO idiots. Idk much about PLA's SAM systems but they have quite a lot of Russian derivatives like their local made S-300 and this war has shown how good those SAM systems actually are, provided that there are enough and well-manned so the Chinese already have good base to work with.

@cheeseongho5494

26 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@nedkelly9688

22 күн бұрын

Better then any Chinese or Russian systems lol.. also clueless as these are just launcher tubes and will get no tech from them. most important parts are radars and the software platforms. also this video is alie as these were said to be from Ukraine and not Taiwan.. misleading channels need to be banned....

Taiwan has also been sending their semiconductor engineers to the mainland to make Huawei great again. I love that province

@birdcagegood2972

25 күн бұрын

Taiwan is not a province of China. China is a province of Taiwan. 🇹🇼 🎉😊

@rastoferi6012

25 күн бұрын

@@birdcagegood2972 as long as there's only 1 China, I'm good

@kanestalin7246

23 күн бұрын

​@@birdcagegood2972then why do you imbeciles claim taiwan is independent from China?

@michaellou7101

21 күн бұрын

@@birdcagegood2972 Whatever you say. I like that you think they are one part of each other. The only matter is who's on top, and that's a civil war issue that can be solved between brothers. Otherwise, it's Chinese vs foreign occupiers on Chinese island territory. Taiwan's choice.

Have Taiwanese learned the lessons of Ukraine yet? Lesson No 1 : America does not care one bit for your people...

@thulomanchay

26 күн бұрын

There are Taiwanese, and Taiwanese and Taiwanese. One of them are for independence. Japanese ancestry. One for reunification. Chinese ancestry. One in-between. "Democracy and Freedom"

@jeffreyspinner5437

26 күн бұрын

If since the war criminal many times over Henry Kissinger's 1968's quote: "Being America's enemy is dangerous, being America's friend is lethal." I have NO sympathy for any country doing the same thing and expecting different results.

@bushwookie2438

26 күн бұрын

neither does the CCP, Philippines utilize the US, Taiwan Utilize the US, US utilize everybody, its an alliance its for convenience

@justarandomname420

26 күн бұрын

America doesn't care about Americans.

@garyshepherdly9357

26 күн бұрын

@ghandi You said it Best 👌. The rest of the world need to take note. America 🇺🇸 n Uk 🇬🇧 have 0 loyalty n only do things that benefits them 😊.

The Patriot system does not work all the time, as Saudi Arabia and the UAE discovered. Patriot missiles are so expensive that it is cheaper to let the enemy missile hit its target than try to intercept it.

@Howardlifts

26 күн бұрын

It's overrated like everything else america makes

@Stratigoz

26 күн бұрын

Try to intercept. Correction

@para-tanker

26 күн бұрын

A lot of things depend on the operator, those operators are known to be very incompotent as the conflict in Yemen has shown the world.

@Howardlifts

26 күн бұрын

@@para-tanker it's just garbage tbh

@para-tanker

25 күн бұрын

@@Howardlifts all systems have their weaknesses, the S400 was taken out quite often by now, advertised as a wonderweapon but taken out by a country without 5th gen fighters

China will soon realise they have wasted their time studying patriot as as the Ukrainians and Saudis have found out to their cost😂😂

@MyVlogTubes

26 күн бұрын

Its intresting for weapon scientists to learn from .

@pineapplesareyummy6352

26 күн бұрын

Not necessarily! The Patriot may well be a very flawed, obsolete system, and China won't be copying much from it. But China can still learn its weaknesses and how to target it (assuming this is indeed a legit Patriot system)

@thulomanchay

26 күн бұрын

China will still study the Patriot system. To learn how to counter them. And to learn from them how to build a better system.

@lukemckay3262

26 күн бұрын

The true value could well be learning how western a2ad is interlinked. It helps you understand the overarching strategy

@ChucksSEADnDEAD

26 күн бұрын

@@thulomanchay How? This is a fake system. The wheels are wrong, the lights on the back are wrong, the cables are wrong. And it says "INERT" on the side. It's a target to be used in training. Not a real piece.

Every system sent to Ukraine will find its secrets gifted to Russia, just as everything sent to Taiwan will be offered up to China. Both have considerable people networks and significant support among the populations.

@Moshikokotashima

26 күн бұрын

China and Taiwan are one blood.

@pineapplesareyummy6352

26 күн бұрын

Unsurprising as the Mainland and Taiwan are basically the same people. It is in fact even closer than that. At least Ukrainian is a different language/dialect of the Eastern Slavic family, but is actually different than Russian. The Taiwanese just speak plain vanilla Mandarin, same language as everyone in northern China. And those who speak something else probably speak Hokkien, as that's the Chinese dialect spoken in Fujian province on the opposite coast from Taiwan. I am from Hong Kong. My grandfather fought for the KMT during WW2 and could easily have gone to Taiwan had he not been married to my grandmother who was Cantonese. Notwithstanding the ridiculous propaganda peddled by Western media, there are very large numbers of Taiwanese living on the Mainland who are doing very well. For more than a decade, China successfully poached a lot of TSMC engineers by offering higher salaries, good work conditions, apartments, etc. A lot of Taiwanese have property on the Mainland (And why not? The Mainland sees Taiwan as its own people, so everyone is equal. As in the case of Ukraine/Russia, it is the smaller entity that discriminates out of fear, not the bigger one. The Mainland is absolutely chill with Taiwan.)

@vatnikxxi7717

26 күн бұрын

Just like Russia and Ukraine are one-blood brothers ​@@Moshikokotashima

@DIREWOLFx75

26 күн бұрын

"Every system sent to Ukraine will find its secrets gifted to Russia" Eh, thing is that nowadays, Russia isn't actually all that interested. They pretty much have their own versions of everything Nato has and it's generally a tossup which is clearly better.

@ericp1139

26 күн бұрын

F-16s sweating profusely

i like how NAFO is so triggered, and they cant even read chinese to verify it . Their innate mechanism is to lump all the photos to proof its fake , classic NAFO

@youareliedtobythemedia

26 күн бұрын

i like how you think this is some massive win for china, when really it is only the stabilizer part, and the patriot is really old tech anyway. it doesn't even matter if the photos are legit or not. so the real question is, why are all you NAFO haters fapping to something completely irelevant?

@ChucksSEADnDEAD

26 күн бұрын

Why would a real system have INERT written on the side?

@ZugZugMahogny

26 күн бұрын

did you even watch the full video?

@vasili-jy8yb

26 күн бұрын

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD did you watch the entire video?

@luisodriozola79

26 күн бұрын

@@vasili-jy8yb Oh, he did, he just pretends he didn`t... it`s always the same with those NAFO guys. I`m starting to think they are some kind of lame online Psy-operation or something.

Those are stabilizers, four of those kiss the ground kinda like most heavy vehicles when deployed.

超on the number plate means the vehicle is a special purpose vehicle with extended length/height/weight

@pineapplesareyummy6352

26 күн бұрын

Yes. It also says "长车" on the horizontal bar, followed by "徐州华飞接车" (Note I found a higher resolution version of that photo at 2605x1834 pixels). Also, the first three characters on the blue sign says 蓝旗中, but I can't see the last character. The words above it are too blurry even at the higher resolution. The English text says "Traffic" followed by a word that could be "Police" (half the word is covered by the black cabin of the truck). The red banner reads 思想大解放，能力大?? (last two characters are covered)

I wouldn't say it's invalidated for sure. Lots of ways a Taiwanese patriot could end up in Ukraine, same ways Serbian ammo is in Ukraine. They sell it to someone else and it goes to ukraine.

@luisodriozola79

26 күн бұрын

Well, it`s easier to think that the chinese obtained it from the taiwanese.

@dirremoire

25 күн бұрын

@@luisodriozola79 Maybe it was supposed to be shipped to Taiwan, but at the last minute it was shipped to Ukraine to help train their crews.

@luisodriozola79

20 күн бұрын

​@@dirremoire So Russia captured a patriot without advertizing it and then gave it to China... for what reasons? Why all this convoluted chain of suppositions?... Ah yes, because giving all this stuff to Taiwan only to have some officer sent to China right away makes people look rather silly. Sorry, the incredible story of the little Patriot trainer who wanted to travel the world doesn`t add to me. That patriot just crossed the pool from Taiwan and went straight to chinese hands, it`s the easier and most logical suposition.

@dirremoire

19 күн бұрын

@luisodriozola79 but how could it be shipped directly to China from Taiwan?. I'm sure we have advisors in Taiwan who personally supervise these Patriot systems. They would know if one went missing.

@luisodriozola79

19 күн бұрын

@@dirremoire The same way it would be shipped from Ukraine to China. Please, you don`t know what happens to tens billions of dollars inside the Pentagon itself, let alone inside a country your officers can`t even find in a map.

Russian washing machines and shovels are more advanced than patriot XD

@caleebdiscarga6120

26 күн бұрын

😅😅😅😅😅 100%

@Br1cht

26 күн бұрын

How many pride parades do Russia have? West for Win!!! Wait… Oh… never mind.. 😢

That could be one of those U.S. arms that Taiwan has ordered but were diverted to Ukraine instead. I recall there was some Taiwan talk shows complaining about that.

Tires are deflated because it gives better stability during transport. And Tarp isn't covering it because mainland Chinese are Chinese.

@alanfriesen9837

26 күн бұрын

It allows it to clear lower overpasses.

That’s one of Purim’s gifts when he’s traveling to China this week.

while the patriot is obsolete piece of metal, this will trigger a lot of nato bots :D

@DefensePoliticsAsia

26 күн бұрын

Yes it did. Everyone is coping.

@Botzorz

26 күн бұрын

hey now its the best system in the world for extracting taxpayer money

@slavarussia2773

26 күн бұрын

Russian washing machines and shovels are more advanced than patriot XD

@aniksamiurrahman6365

26 күн бұрын

Patriot is just a brand name. U can manufacture whatever u wish under that name if u own the brand. For example: Patriot PAC3 washing machine - clears dirty cloths by banging them against the washing machine body.

@Howardlifts

26 күн бұрын

​@@DefensePoliticsAsiaI think it's hilarious, karma is best served cold 😂

You kinda doxxed yourself when you opened Google Maps (frame by frame you can get a pretty good picture of where you are)… I would cut that out if I were you because you never know with the internet.

@jebotipasmater

26 күн бұрын

Yes, commander, upgrade your opsec! 🫡

@jensramputh

26 күн бұрын

Probably sold by Ukraine to China to fund the next villa purchase. 😂

@helvosthecreator1920

26 күн бұрын

If it ends up once on the internet it stays on the internet. But yeah, if that indeed is his current location finding the exact address is stupid simple 😅

@thesaul9484

26 күн бұрын

The Kalibr is already on its way to his house

@lagrangewei

26 күн бұрын

we use VPN, so that not our real location =)

It's unlikely to be a Chinese replica as they wouldn't have painted "INERT" on the side, so it's likely a genuine model from Taiwan. Why it would be driven around openly and not covered up is a mystery.

@jebotipasmater

26 күн бұрын

Maybe a simple opsec mistake? 😆

@bryf2787

26 күн бұрын

cuz the Chinese 'war fooling bureau' is at work

@dirremoire

26 күн бұрын

We all know that the Ukrainian high command is riddled with Russian moles. It'd be easy to set up a transfer where the Ukrainians would park this vehicle in a forest for the Russians to pick up later. This time, the Russians were scammed and sold a training launcher. That's why Russia decided to pawn it off to China.

@ChucksSEADnDEAD

26 күн бұрын

Why would a genuine item have INERT on the side? Real missiles are not inert, they have a warhead and rocket fuel.

@raghardeishi972

26 күн бұрын

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD Is it INERT marking? What's written on genuine missile?

They wouldn't have painted "INERT" on it if it was a mock-up they themselves built for recognition training. Question is what they can learn from a training version of a Patriot.

@DIREWOLFx75

26 күн бұрын

AND, they would copy the REAL thing not the training version. "Question is what they can learn from a training version of a Patriot." Probably not that much, which i guess is why they're not even the slightest covert about driving it around. Although the electronics should still be there, so it's possible they may be able to extract things like how to jam them better and things like that.

@Fullgrym

26 күн бұрын

Not anything less than a "live" version of Patriot. What is important is the radar and the missile's guidance system, not the type of explosive in the missile.

@rosomak8244

25 күн бұрын

They can "learn" the precise radar signature of the system for example.

@bjorntorlarsson

25 күн бұрын

​@@rosomak8244 Not from a dummy that is made for the crew to learn how to deploy it from transportation to a fire position. (although rarely done for an immobile short-range point defense system like Patriot compared with the constantly mobile S-400). The Russians (and thus by trade the Chinese and the Iranians) already know everything about its radar signature. Their shooting down of almost all of them proves it. And of course they have plenty of fragments of the missiles to learn from. 40+ years old first cold war era systems of NATO! What a joke. Corruption preventing NATO countries from ever developing anything new and useful.

@DIREWOLFx75

25 күн бұрын

@@rosomak8244 If they copy the live version, sure. If they copy the training version, they get the signature of the training version. Not nearly as useful.

NAFO: There is no Patriots in Ba Sing Se!

@ytuuuidvb6181

26 күн бұрын

Take a closer look at the details , rusnig already got blined by vodka ?

I saw a higher resolution version (2605x1834 pixels) of that photo. The blue sign reads "蓝旗中？" (Can't read the last character). There is also the words of the company 徐州华飞接车 underneath the number plate.

@cauwenberghsroeland8607

26 күн бұрын

blue flag..... name of compagnie "that recovers /transports" cars ( tow truck ? ). 徐州华飞 : Xuzou Huafei ? ( google ) seems to be the name.

@pineapplesareyummy6352

26 күн бұрын

@@cauwenberghsroeland8607 Yes, I believe this to be the name of the company. But it still doesn't reveal much where that photo is, besides the truck probably comes from the city of Xuzhou. The 蓝旗中 may offer more hints. The English underneath it says Traffic followed by a word that could be Police (the last three letters are covered up).

@jxmai7687

26 күн бұрын

Longhua County Chengde, Hebei, China 41°21'29.8"N 117°38'27.8"E 隆化县蓝旗镇少府村 😂

@pineapplesareyummy6352

26 күн бұрын

@@jxmai7687Very interesting! I looked again. There is a 蓝旗中学, but the last character on the sign doesn't look like 学. Nevertheless, there is a very interesting intersection between the S-352 and the road that runs west-east that look like it could be the intersection, but on Baidu and Gaode Maps, satellite images in that area are not high enough resolution. Hebei north of Beijing is hilly, so the geography would match.

... or someone pulled a ellensky... Why let it get destroyed when you can make money out of it.

@kazegarasu4704

26 күн бұрын

Yeah i mean , why get destroyed if you can make money out of it ... Those are not cheap you know ..

@bonaanayaga

23 күн бұрын

I agree it was sold by the operators why die for idiots eating steak at home

The tires were intentionally deflated to lower the overall height for clearance under bridges, wires, etc.

Ahh the perfect Man to investigate this intrigue!

My God, commander u have turned into FBI 😊😅❤🇿🇲

Russia paid those soldiers a nice bounty for that system

@Moshikokotashima

26 күн бұрын

china should send all of its weapons systems with their crew to help Russia and test them against western weapons.

@thulomanchay

26 күн бұрын

Looks like they were sold a dummy model.

@DIREWOLFx75

26 күн бұрын

@@thulomanchay Not dummy. TRAINING model. The MISSILES are dummies. But the system isn't. You connect them up to a training command center and use it to train system operators with. With the pictured equipment's electronics simulating launching missiles.

@ChucksSEADnDEAD

26 күн бұрын

@@DIREWOLFx75 If such a simulator were made, why would it include any of the real data instead of just aproximations?

@DIREWOLFx75

26 күн бұрын

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD Because to be a functional trainer, it HAS to have act EXACTLY the same as the real thing. And it's not a matter of IF it's been made, all nations that use Patriot have had their personnel go through the use of a trainer simulator. Most SAMs have some form of simulator for training crew with. Heck, my own nation did some really cool ones for our Rb-70. Aaand then made a civillian version that is basically a completely realistic game version that is available at airshows, museums and the like.

Cheers Wyatt.

Hey DPA, I hope you see this. Ryan Macbeth made a very informative video picking apart how this most likely is a mockup. If you care about being genuine I hope you can put this out. Thanks!

Someone who have been where photo was taken would know the geolocation, we just have to wait for one of these persons to see this and spill the details.

4:07 - What type of jet is that in the sky of the photo, does that say anything about this issue?

It was not captured, it was sold by the AFU to China.

@digimaks

26 күн бұрын

It can't possibly be AFU since they got different color.

@attilamarics3374

26 күн бұрын

@@digimaks I mean Ukraine recieved multiple different camo vehicles in thsi conflict, some of the tanks had desert camo for example.

@ZugZugMahogny

26 күн бұрын

Maybe it was sold from taiwain to china, from china to russia and then tio ukraine, then ukraine sold it to mexican cartels that sold it to japan that sold it to russia that sold it to china

@davidjohnson4956

26 күн бұрын

Sold to Russia or captured by Russia, sent via rail to Vladivostok and shipped to Tianjin. Photo was taken in 承德

Yeah! We are just borrowing it for the weekend for "Show & Tell". Thanks

Supposedly those patriot system to be sent to Taiwan but Zelensky intercepted it

Always interesting to watch DPA to hear Wyatt 's view on defense politics and Asia!

Taiwan just provided it to China. It’s so easy to do as Kinmen is only 2km from the Chinese coast.

If they have Taiwan TEL, does China have also PAC-2 and PAC-3 missiles for sensor analysis?

超means overweight or overdimention load?

Might this picture be from Taiwan, but the truck is one from the mainland?

10:34 the tires are deflated in order to reduce the overall height of the cargo for transportation

Wyatt Holmes and DPA Watson! :)

Deflated tires could be just for transporting, height limit etc.

не удивлюсь если украинцы ее просто продали, без всякого захвата. но тогда получается, что китайцы их жестко подставили, как бы "случайно" засветив купленную установку ПВО.

@digimaks

26 күн бұрын

А кто докажет где и кто продал, и кто и как получил?

@user-cv9vi7hp7n

26 күн бұрын

@@digimaks никто ничего не докажет, я высказал лишь предположение. Но если оно верно, то у западных спонсоров, возникнет масса вопросов. А отследить пути доставки, будет не так сложно, учитывая нарочитую показательную открытость этой перевозки. Если что-то пытаются скрыть, это стараются скрыть. А если хотят, чтобы это было замечено, то и действуют соответственно. Но опять таки... если все это правда. Пока нет никакой достоверной информации, кроме сомнительного фото из сомнительного источника.

@trananhdng8031

24 күн бұрын

兄弟这东西都说是俄罗斯给的😅😅😅

@user-cv9vi7hp7n

23 күн бұрын

@@trananhdng8031 ну смотри... установка в отличном состоянии(как минимум, мы не видим следов повреждений). ее не захватили и не поразили. такие системы вообще близко к линии фронта не подводят. Так что если установка пришла из России, то русские купили ее у всу. А если подарили, значит купи не одну. Потому как самим интересно разобрать до винтика. Так что, если фото не фейк, то у "страны 404" большие проблемы.

10:13 its a support arm. Similar to what cranes, cherry pickers, and other mobile artillery have. The armes lower, the battery fires, arms raise up, and it scoots

It looks like it was made for machine learning of CN analog of "Lancet" drone.

Fascinating .

Deflated tyres make the load more stable.

@jdlflagstone6980

24 күн бұрын

Height restrictions usually

Tires were likely deflated to get under bridges or other overhead obstructions.

It's a mockup of Patriot launcher (most likely used by PRC military for training), and this one has quite a few differences to real Patriot launcher.

超might refers to the truck is super long

What's most likely - this is just a training mockup, maybe even a movie prop. Tires are likely deflated for overhead clearance.

Those are not mirrors. Those are extendable legs for absorbing recoil

Please make more videos like this to teach us Chinese, for some reason it's a lot of fun.

Those aren’t mirrors. Those are the supports that keep the launcher from shaking in its upright position. They come down and dig into the ground.

This is in China, it's a movie prop and the guy who built it has told everybody that's what it is, Other KZreadrs I've dealt with is also saying it doesn't look right including the trailer looks wrong. In addition, it would make zero sense for Ukraine to sell this for any amount of money, because I think the United States would notice it's missing from Ukraine.

@jdlflagstone6980

24 күн бұрын

Lol that's untrue. If it was a movie prop they wouldn't paint "inert" on the side of it..

They sent it back to the original manufacturer for upgrade 😂

Hard to believe, why no tarp covering it?

@thehumus8688

26 күн бұрын

Why you need tarp to cover it ? Military hardware build for outdoor even when moving F-16 (as aircraft more fragile), Israel just transport it as it is in flatback trucks

@opfor8465

26 күн бұрын

for negative PR this is why , it's for showing up.

@merocaine

26 күн бұрын

@@thehumus8688 sensitive military secret.

@randymarsh1471

26 күн бұрын

For propaganda cause

@merocaine

26 күн бұрын

@@opfor8465 wrong.

it probably a mock up. China cover their equipment during transport, since it is not covered it is unlikely to be operational equipment. the thing on the side is a stand to stablized the laucher on uneven ground. even as just a mock up, they would probably still need those stablizer to keep it up right when the tube are raise so they can place them in the way they would be when deployed. the 16 missile configuration is the PAC-3 which are 1/3 the size of the 4 missile configuration for PAC-2. and these missiles themselves has a few variant. the mock up doesn't neccessarily had to be for military purpose, there are many build for entertainment purpose such as for static display or movie prop.

Bruh,how did i miss this?

@DefensePoliticsAsia

23 күн бұрын

Because KZread doing youtube things.

Nice analysis, Wyatt!!👍👍👍 Ryan MacBeth is trying to do a live analysis right now.... he starts with little more pro-NAFO prejudice

Would they move it on a regular truck with no escort? If we don’t count the scooter…

Is Taiwan next Ukraine of Asia? I love your contents ❤❤❤

徐州xuzhou is a city not province. 超chao, at the end of the license plate means it is an oversize vehicle.

@DefensePoliticsAsia

24 күн бұрын

yeah, i'm not very good with chinese geography~ lol

@ddbb1311

24 күн бұрын

@@DefensePoliticsAsia 6:09 粤yue，at the begining of that license plate. That's the short name of Guangdong Provice. 澳ao，which is at the end of the license plate, means Macau. This is a special license plate(always start with Z) registered in Guangdong, with which, you can drive in and out of Macau.

@DefensePoliticsAsia

24 күн бұрын

@@ddbb1311 yeah, Yue isnt a word I learnt before. I seen it before; but I never knew that's the cantonese yue~ haha

@ddbb1311

24 күн бұрын

@@DefensePoliticsAsia More fun: 粤yue is actually a variance of 越yue，which nowaday specially means VIetnam. Historically, they belong to the same region.😆For this historical reason, back in the conflict in 1979, some slogans used by the VIetnamese was to conquer Guandong/Canton, which they deemed belonging. Some what like Donbass to Russia, only opposite.

Those arm thing isn’t a mirror it’s an stabiliser which is lower to the ground .

There’s were only two patriot systems sent to Ukraine so it’s ridiculous to think one was smuggled out or captured. This is a mock up…. A really good one at that but still not a real patriot: the trailer has only one set of wheels, the back lights are incorrect, it’s missing a generator, the cables on the back are miss placed, the LEM on the side is missing any cables, and lastly it’s using a hydroelectric piston rather than a screw.

Having your enemies high value weapons for evaluation is nothing new.

It's a mockup, not real. There are many reviews on this photo from US ex-military.

why flat tires on patriot ???

About to be available on temu at a substantially lower cost

few thing about those patriots. n 1) somewhere around 10:00 minutes you claim that there's a mirror on the back of the truck. that thing is NOT A MIRROR but it's one of 4 stabilizing .."legs " ( i don't know how else to call them ). once the system is deployed ,those legs are placed to the ground and they are ensuring that wehicle is stable while it's lounching it's missiles ( it's pretty common solutions both in the west as in russia ). n 2) system that you claim is in china ( one that we see from the back ) is a PAC 3 wich has 16 missiles ( 4 containers " quadpacked") . while those that wee see in taiwan SEEM to be PAC 2 wich has 4 large missiles ( every container has a single missile. 3) also ,patriot in china seem to be containing missiles....and it doesn't seem to have been used 4) in my oppinion that system looks wayy too detailed / unreasonably detailed and over done for being a decoy for optical guidance weapons . most optical guidance system are easely fooled by inflatable decoys ( you can find both russian and western infatable decoys ). 5) military colors of a country don't differ very much and they vary based on climate and vegetation where they are going to be used...so i would'nt read too much into colors i don't know what the story of this thing could be ...but it has to be fascinating. if this a real thing...my best explanation is that some corrupt ukrainian officials have soled one TEL vehicle to russia. because what we see here is not the ENTIRE SYSTEM but a SINGLE transporter errector loncher vehicle.

@YongLi-np3wg

26 күн бұрын

Does Ukraine even have pac-3?

@lukaswatts8422

26 күн бұрын

Tell me in what universe where if russia were to get a patriot system theough corruption they wouldnt announce it to the world immediately. The propaganda value would infinite and very useful. There is no way if russia were to obtain a patriot they would quitely give to china

@themilosgrozni237

26 күн бұрын

@@YongLi-np3wg i don't know if they have PAC 3 ...but lot of stuff has been given to them, so i think it's possible that they might have some.

@ZugZugMahogny

26 күн бұрын

The leap from Ukraine selling a patriot system looking more like the taiwanese training system then their own to russia that handed it over to china is a better explanation then that china made a replica for training purposes or got their hands on a taiwanese one?

@YongLi-np3wg

26 күн бұрын

@@themilosgrozni237 10 Aug 2023 - The US Army has confirmed sending five different types of missiles to Ukraine for its Patriot systems, including the highly capable PAC-3 MSE.

INERT, but probably it can be converted to fully-functional will a few modifications.

@ZugZugMahogny

26 күн бұрын

but what would the gain be from that? if possible

@dirremoire

26 күн бұрын

@@ZugZugMahogny Well, it is for training so it has to be almost the same as the real one. Maybe it just has the firing control module removed. Then after the crew is trained. Just swap out the firing control module for the real one and you're good to go.

@ZugZugMahogny

26 күн бұрын

@@dirremoire yes but what you there is the launcher, the simplest part of the system

@dirremoire

26 күн бұрын

@@ZugZugMahogny Yah, but assuming this is a real INERT launcher and China doesn't have the rest of the system, this is a huge deal. The CIA must be freaking out.

I want to know why it has flat tires? That usually means it sat for a long time and the tires went flat. There is no combat damage and the paint job is pristine, so why are the tires flat?

@ZugZugMahogny

26 күн бұрын

Could be to make it more stable or to have it fit under a tight bridge etc

@chrisbricky7331

26 күн бұрын

I thought that too, then looked at the degradation, it didn't look like tires that had air let out, they are at different inflation ratios and the tires look stressed as in they have been flat for awhile. If you have ever visited a place that has old abandoned cars or work trucks, you see this happen. Each tire deflates at different rates and they get dirty based on what they are sitting on or in. But, who knows.

You'd think it'd be covered with a tarp.

China's haulage companies must have trucks driving around Taiwan. Why cannot it be a Chinese truck being utilised in Taiwan?

@Temstar04

26 күн бұрын

Because that's simplified Chinese and the plate says it's from Tianjin

Old pics on BBC website, US army using exact same, coloured, labeled INERT launchers . BBC: 'Ukraine war: US Patriot missiles will comfort Kyiv and alarm Moscow'

The Patriot system was shift from Taiwan.

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You would think they would at least cover the thing...

Super meaning heavy haul ?

超 could mean 超大型 for the trailer size.

You are right, this patriot was made for Taiwan’s order, but delivered to Ukrainian because Rytheon don’t have enough capacity to supply both sides at the same time.

It is just a mockup launcher albeit a good one

You do know you showed your home address, right?... avenue/block number. Maybe you're fine with that but I would've thought people covering sensitive topics are more paranoid about these things

It's not a Patriot TEL It's a Missile Round trainer, built by Teledyne.

@MarineScoutSniper

23 күн бұрын

Wrong

@GARDENER42

22 күн бұрын

@@MarineScoutSniper You certainly are.

great analysis

In any case, this system is damaged, the condition of the tyres proves it. Rear of this "missile carrier" has a tank that does not exist on Patriot

@kell7195

26 күн бұрын

No they probably deflated them to stop it moving on the Truck bed and lower its height for overhead wires

@phil111ify

26 күн бұрын

Deflating the tyres was most probably done after loading to help with bridge or cable clearance. Its an oversized load which is why they are using a low loader.

hey get rain bolt to gao guess

it literally says inert... maybe for training

Great video 👍 Something like this would be a high value target for backwards engineering and then Mass Production. I am sure Russia would be able to work out a deal with China to do this. There are many other countries that be interested in obtaining copies when China is successful. On the other hand perhaps it just needed an oil change and China had a Mother Day oil change special. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@ZugZugMahogny

26 күн бұрын

yes and no, lets say that Ukraine sold a Taiwanese looking Patriot launcher to russia instead of one of their own. Even then the magic sauce is not in the launcher, its in the other parts of the system

@easalsoeas4565

26 күн бұрын

@@ZugZugMahogny yes I am sure the other parts of the system are on another trailer. That trailer is fully loaded.

@ZugZugMahogny

26 күн бұрын

@@easalsoeas4565 are you sure or are you hoping?

尽管各种迹象，我还是认为不大可能是真的，1）从残酷战场上拖回来被俘武器，太干净太新； 2）如果是真的，它应该是军方的一个宝贝，没有前呼后拥是不可能的； 3）放在外面展示，是俄罗斯的风格； 4）保密应该比炫耀更重要。

Im seeing twitter saying its Korean , Taiwanese, Japanese ? Im confused af now

@ZugZugMahogny

26 күн бұрын

NO! its ukraine that redesigned the ones they have to look taiwanese and then moved it from no less then 50km behind front lines, across the line of contact to russia that gave it to china

@cherrypoptart2001

26 күн бұрын

@@ZugZugMahogny nah, it was confirmed in the same twitter post to be a mock up for military drills for the chinese army.

its not mirror its a support stand.

Los platos no son espejos, son las bases de las patas de apoyo articuladas. No será un nuevo modelo chino?

You pronounce those Chinese words expertly not like the Russo -ukrainian ones

@elmohead

26 күн бұрын

DPA can speak Chinese, obviously.

@pineapplesareyummy6352

26 күн бұрын

75% of Singapore's population is Chinese, though I'm not sure of the sub-divisions after that (i.e., who speaks Mandarin, who speaks Cantonese, Hokkien, Hakka, etc.) I am Cantonese-speaking, but even then, pronouncing Mandarin isn't that hard. I guess Wyatt is Mandarin-speaking.

It’s just a toy version for Mayor General Mao Xinyu to play with in his bathtub.

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Good investigating on your part. Concerning the post, I don't see how that system could be "secretly captured" in Ukraine. Those systems are protected and supposedly in major cities like Kiev, far from the front lines. No one could "secretly" do it, and maybe no one could steal one at all there. Maybe China produces dummy Taiwan patriot batteries for spotting practice, for the Taiwan Invasion that will never happen.

The Iranians make a SAM that looks a lot like Patriot.

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