Tai Chi Master Walks Into Xu Xiaodong's Gym BOXING ENSUES
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A Tai Chi Master actually showed up to Xu Xiaodong's Gym to challenge someone! Let's explore what rules were agreed upon, and even why the particular student of Xu's was chosen. And most importantly, we'll commentate how the match went. Did this meet your expectations? Did they exceed your expectations? Let us know what you thought and what other martial art lessons you want to share!
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Timecodes:
0:00 Rules agreed upon
0:58 Xu's positive tone
1:25 Tai Chi master vs Xu's student
5:36 Thoughts on match
5:52 Xu shows his thanks to Tai Chi master
6:33 Xu's original opponent for Tai Chi master
7:07 Why Tai Chi master went to Xu's gym
7:29 Fun question for viewers
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Just to give you guys the characters: 谷 That’s master gǔ‘s surname. 谷师傅, as you would say in Chinese. Master Gu actually did come out with a reflection on his performance, so I will translate it soon. Also, for those of you wondering why Xu didn’t take on the Master himself, Xu needs surgery to fix one of his arms, so Xu cannot really exert too much force right now. In fact, I forgot to translate this, but part of the reason Xu was able to get the Master to show up was he put up some money. He basically told Master Gu: if you can beat a student of mine, you get 100,000 RMB of money. So Xu basically put up the money he was saving for his arm surgery to get the Master to show up. Also, I have a followup video coming soon. The more I look at both Master Gu's social media, the more I see fascinating content to explain and analyze. Stay tuned!
@atomic_wait
Ай бұрын
He turned his brain into gǔ.
@FightCommentary
Ай бұрын
Whats funny is after the match Xu gave him some fine alcohol. Not the best for brain recovery 🤓🤓
@gretashapiro4118
Ай бұрын
@@FightCommentarymuatai?
@learnergrowthmind
Ай бұрын
I mean at least he had heart…but still just take the proven routes that work , my peoples!
@user-uv3te7lr7p
Ай бұрын
Xu is more diplomatic now. So is your video commentary. I like it better now. 😂 By the way, you have excellent and flawless English. Have you always been in China?
Taichi master had gloves on. His chi couldnt flow out of his gloves. Thats why he lost. 😅
@Limthemad
Ай бұрын
Before the fight Xu has ask the master, what is your choice? You want no gloves ,MMA gloves,we also ok, but you need to sign your consent on the contract😅 In the end the master choose the big boxing glove that effect him unable to shoot Hadouken.
@Viajyaj
Ай бұрын
Very good theory😁
@smartguy1008
Ай бұрын
1_Tai Chi man too OLD, 2_Tai Chi man got afraid, and forgot to use his Tai Chi skills!!! Tai Chi is OK if practiced with strength.
@rigoreyes2776
Ай бұрын
Appearantly plastic is not a good conductor of chi.
@RobertSantos-rw8dy
Ай бұрын
Not one with the universe.
The problem is that none of these 'masters' have never really been punched or been in a real fight.
@richarddeerflame
Ай бұрын
a lot dont train for that..; so of course theyt will struggle, this is true
@yesss5773
Ай бұрын
I agree. No one can learn how to fight without proper sparring and then actually compete. There are no tricks, no ancient knowledge or shortcuts. Fighting is a craft, not a philosophy.
@javierpatag3609
Ай бұрын
Or, if they have, it’s been a *_looong_* time since.
@MrJM0B
Ай бұрын
Yeah, considering that I think the Tai Chi master really showed a lot of grit and determination. Getting hit is super tiring when you're not used to it. That is about as tough as they come from a novice boxing point of view.
@MrJM0B
Ай бұрын
Actually, getting hit is super tiring full stop!
People who are serious about advancing their art or martial arts as a whole know that a challenger is the most valuable thing in the world to that cause. Competition is how we measure and discover ourselves.
HE LIVES!!! Last time I heard of Xu. He was completely exiled and discredited by his country. Straight up thought he died, or was homeless. Glad he's doing way better.
@syjiang
7 күн бұрын
He is ok right now, uploading vids to youtube actually.
@afterthefact6708
3 күн бұрын
I wonder if the CCP still makes him fight in clown makeup
Xu's credit score must be in the negatives now 😂😂😂
@Ostsol
Ай бұрын
I kinda wonder how much it's recovered, but he's probably doing alright, now. He's much more chill and careful with his behaviour in this video.
@StimParavane
Ай бұрын
He can probably only go into his local shop and that's it.
@mysteryfist
Ай бұрын
Has to travel to every fight by horseback now.
@mrpopo-sf3ke
Ай бұрын
@@StimParavaneworth it!
@bullyboy131
Ай бұрын
Bahahaha
Tai Chi guy a little stronger than average old guy w no training. I give him credit for stepping in the ring.
@theyehsohz
Ай бұрын
I read that as "..for sleeping in the ring"
@officialben7212
Ай бұрын
Right. This Page only shows Boxing& street fighters! Don't tell me this page post real Kung Fu, look here this page a bluff making REAL MASTERS DISAPPOINTED & LOOK BAD
@sampokemppainen3041
Ай бұрын
Why for. So he can still go to his followers and say that they learn better self defense from taichi?
@1individeo
Ай бұрын
@@sampokemppainen3041 it is not about the art, it is about the artist. "It is not about the size of a dog in a fight, it's about the size of the fight in a dog". Also, It is not about what you train, it is about how you train it. for example, if you train BJJ for competition (Musumeci style) you are not going to be able to use it in a real fight, but if you train it for self defense or for MMA it will look completely different and will include a lot of strikes (Royce gracie style)
@kidd32888
Ай бұрын
@@officialben7212show us then
Mike Tyson would literally give the Tai Chi Master a forever nap with one swing.
The old man has heart. He took a knockdown and got back up.
@elbaumg
9 күн бұрын
Yeah, but he said he could take Mike Tyson.
@greg6509
6 күн бұрын
He didn't say he had intelligence, he said he had heart😂@@elbaumg
@afterthefact6708
3 күн бұрын
True. He also showed he as terrible conditioning as he was exhausted after 1minute xD
They always get in the ring and throw punches like they've never been in a fight, or like they've never studied a martial art in their life.
@split88
Ай бұрын
I know right
@MrHumpity
Ай бұрын
yeh, Tai Chi is not really a quick reacting thing, but you would expect a 'Master' to at least have watched a fight on telly and have a better plan than that.
@krishendo9433
22 күн бұрын
@@MrHumpity hahhahaaaaaaa 🤣
@markgado8782
22 күн бұрын
Training goes out the window after the first punch to the head.. that's why fight Training is important.
@minhvisual4265
22 күн бұрын
Because they never train with sparring just forms.
It sure looked like the student went easy on the old guy - especially in the beginning.
@NukaColaQuantum
Ай бұрын
He escalated it because the old guy wouldn’t back down
@PetrandoRichard
Ай бұрын
Also in the end. It could be much worse, if he goes all out
@liberatumplox625
Ай бұрын
Maybe, but those early body shots, just drained his soul. Hit someone hard enough in the liver - and they belong to the shadow realm.
@usmc8408
Ай бұрын
@@liberatumplox625Getting hit in the live won’t send you to the shadow realm, it’ll send you to the “I should have stayed in bed” realm.
@dorianleakey
21 күн бұрын
Nah, its not a prize fight, for money, or some massive amount of honour involved, he went easy at first as he didnt want to fall to a lucky punch, he went harder after seeing he was winning easily and the guy was already dazed, he had the literal opposite motivation to what you saw, and to me its obvious. I think there is a lot of confirmation bias in how people see events like this, but watch again, the Tai Chi guy is dizzy from early on, has lost his balance, the thing tai chi guy should excel at.
Damn, the "master" dropped his fancy guard real fast after eating a couple punches
@rengoodmen2879
8 күн бұрын
The long guard worked fairly well though?
This is not valid, tai chi master need to fight on the ground to receive earth chi and with the glove he can't channel his 9 tail chakra
@finnwong8096
14 күн бұрын
Agreed, it was rigged from the start 😒😣
@RosebudDelicious
4 күн бұрын
Lmfao what
Xu's rhetoric was about science and investigating martial arts using the scientific method, which helps backstop his stance against general negative response from the government. By claiming he's advancing the country's understanding of martial arts, it's harder to criticize him for going against traditional institutions.
@fredsmith5782
Ай бұрын
The Chinese government will have a harder time messing with if he put it in that context. The Chinese government really hates face and it’s kinda their fault for making Chinese TMA as bad as it is due to their policies in the past.
@bigfist0
Ай бұрын
Dong is a CIA agent his job is to make Chinese feel insignificant and Western culture is the Best
@zereimu
Ай бұрын
His problem is that he's always way above in weight class and just yeets himself at opponents in ways that one would not in a scenario in which martial arts are compared. his opponent wants to duel, while he just rams at opponents smaller than him. It would be like testing the efficiency of a bat by running at it with a truck.
@mengmao5033
Ай бұрын
@@zereimu in his original campaign, he had no need to be delicate - he didn’t see a problem with violently dismantling someone who made great claims of fighting ability. That’s within the domain of martial arts, as he saw it. It was a wake-up call
@Tee-roni
Ай бұрын
I don't see him going against other traditional martial arts, though
Actually having a guard position puts this Tai Chi master in the top 5% of Tai Chi masters. No sarcasm here, he actually performed really well compared to all the other Tai Chi masters I've seen.
@thorazine0076
Ай бұрын
then I guess Tai Chi masters suck at fighting if he's top 5%
@kevinho2746
Ай бұрын
@@thorazine0076 Obviously... Haven't you seen them try?
@bg1616
Ай бұрын
Tai chi has a broader, non ring fighting target audience so percentages are a red herring
@jailoutafreecard4414
Ай бұрын
@@bg1616excuses
@Limthemad
Ай бұрын
@@MrCMaltese Nope, you atleast need a certificate in China to claim you are a master, and guess who are handling all these Certificate business?
That guys never been in a fight in his life! The outside the pants cup was a nice touch too! 😂 🤣
At the last minute, tai chi master realized he was fooled by his master for the past 40 years.
I think Tai Chi guy did better than I expected. He definitely F’d around and found out, which is more than his peers. Hopefully he learned something.
@ParisLawLess
Ай бұрын
More so the boxer is not that good
@MCSPARTAN501
Ай бұрын
He did. He admitted on camera that the fight was fair and that he lost because he wasn't as good of a fighter.
@AL_YZ
Ай бұрын
"..F’d around and found out.." Nah. Straight up sparring and pressure testing are not "Fng around." No need for you to mischaracterize and put this in a bad light with a cheap put-down for no reason - that would be Fng around.
@malakatan3235
Ай бұрын
Nah...I see better ones without calling themselves masters
@TheAnsonysc
Ай бұрын
The young man should say : "You are not the same age"! I wonder why they arranged such fight.
The boxer went in pretty respectfully at the start too, like friendly sparring.
Tai Chi vs Ballet would be THE fight to watch
@badrequest5596
19 күн бұрын
i think ballet would still win
@eddiemin4312
14 күн бұрын
Wasn’t Van Damme a ballet dancer before coming to Hollywood?
@ryneagheilim9782
12 күн бұрын
@@badrequest5596 Ballet wins by spreadie and taking it in the rear
this "master" just experienced his 1st sparring match in his life.
The best part of this channel is getting the solid Mandarin lessons. I cannot thank you enough.❤❤
@FightCommentary
Ай бұрын
Do you follow my channel that teaches mandarin? Search up Jerry Teaches Chinese.
That was a respectful duel. Hats of to the Tai Chi master for not giving up until he felt that burning sensation in head.
@Jianju69
15 күн бұрын
Yes, kudos for staying in the fight until he got ktfo.
If you watched the interview the old guy gave that let to this fight,you will understand why he was so confident and agree to this fight.(he said he could take on Tyson and win because he is faster and Tyson’s 900 lbs punch has no effect on him)
@FightCommentary
Ай бұрын
Yep. Im translating some of that in my next video 😇
Thank you for translating this. We would not have any access to this otherwise. I like how the Taichi master was a good sport. I'd love to see more updates as the story develops.
Notice how quickly the tai chi guy changed his stance. He starts copying the MMA guy half way through the match. I think that stance works well because its so intuitive and makes good use of the body's movement.
@FightCommentary
Ай бұрын
Yep
@topten5601
Ай бұрын
@@FightCommentary real taichi in wudang temple.. Not this fake master....claim him self a master
@NukaColaQuantum
Ай бұрын
It’s a boxing match so unless you have boxing skills you won’t win. Not that tai chi would have done better without gloves…
@Kelberi
25 күн бұрын
pure evolutionary progress being put to perpetual test, simple as that.
@JKinLVN
10 күн бұрын
The Tai Chi guy had a plan until he got hit in the face. Then he changed his plan. You gotta give him that much.
Imagine realizing in your 50s you spent your entire life wasted believing you you could defend yourself
@tom3413
Ай бұрын
You're describing every "street fighter" and guy who played football in high-school lol
@Ethanhaynes42
Ай бұрын
It’s the fact that nobody learns taiji’s actual combat anymore because so many people are obsessed with theory and fantasy other than actual combat and lose, I’m a practitioner of Wudang wushu or Wudang taiji and Wudang Quan, and I know it works but I don’t fight like people think it is used. I use it with common sense. Every martial art has there strength and weakness. That is why we must mix styles together and create our own mma. People mistake mma as specific style but in reality it is a idea of multiple styles, that is why Bruce Lee’s philosophy Jeet Kune do is the father of MMA because it was the first idea of mixing styles
@hansmemling2311
Ай бұрын
@tom3413 for real, KZread is full of cringy comments or videos about street fights and how you can never prepare for one. Then what follows is pseudo expert conversations about nothing but romantic ideas of what a street fight is lmao. Also always at least one guy who makes a ‘no one can defeat my gun’ comment. About football players I do think they can make decent fighters though. I played rugby only a couple of trainings and that gave me an edge against my non fighting trained friends. Jon jones even said that he’s lucky his football pro brother never joined the ufc or it would have been over for him. I’m Not saying there aren’t football players that overestimate their abilities but they have potential imo. There’s a lot of people who overestimate themselves. Have seen footage of soldiers poorly fighting civilians on the street in their day off. False confidence is everywhere. On the other hand potential is everywhere as well. Have seen footage of cricket players fighting really well on the streets in self defense.
@fredbohm4728
Ай бұрын
@@Ethanhaynes42Tai Chi doesn't work and never has worked. It is an ornamental martial art with no effectiveness at all. All theory and zero reality.
@mordi2537
Ай бұрын
Reminds me of religion and heaven
I'll give this Tai Chi master some credit. He was eating punches a whole lot better than any of his predecessors have.
damn j, this channel blew up ! happy for u
Very Noble and Respectful presentation, it was an exhibition challenge and to no one's surprise the Amateur boxer easily defeated the so called Tai Chi master. Much respect for everyone involved.
Mike Tyson: Everyone has a plan until you get punched in the face 😂
insightful commentary - thanks!
@FightCommentary
Ай бұрын
I got a followup coming tomorrow. Stay tuned ;)
His skills were obviously not what he thought they were. But respect to the older gentleman for getting in there and testing himself and his art. Takes guts.
@cagneybillingsley2165
Ай бұрын
i'm confused...where's the tai chi? i just saw one bad boxer vs an average boxer
@johndoeyedoe
Ай бұрын
Art? Yeah it is an art, like yoga.
@johndoeyedoe
Ай бұрын
@@cagneybillingsley2165that was the tai chi. You realize tai chi is ancient fighting style used to dismount horsemen? It's not actually a relevant fighting technique.
@taepyeoon8245
Ай бұрын
@@johndoeyedoe THAT WAS NOT TAI CHI LMAO
@resonance10
Ай бұрын
@@johndoeyedoe That's a myth about Taekwondo not a myth about Taiji.
great to hear xu has become more diplomatic. this is the correct approach. when the facts are on your side, the fastest resolution is patiently and methodically working through the issues. younger people trying to navigate these conflicts tend to look for a quick solution, while also failing to realise they're not very good at negotiation. they also tend to be unnecessarily defensive, which manifests as aggression and fake confidence. xu has realised that he's holding all the cards, and it's a lot more fun to be nice to people
@Cale_Davison
Ай бұрын
Thank you for this lesson, eloquently stated.
@okerhrh4139
24 күн бұрын
This actually helped me on something I’ve been going thru, thx so much
he wanted to test his art, and he took away a lesson from it. I give that Tai Chi master mad respect, he was humble and confident even when he was losing, he also seemed thankful to be allowed the opportunity to test his martial art
Damn, Xu Xiaodong is nice, after his student beats up the Taiji master, he still gives them gifts. What a polite way to end the fight! 😀
Much respect to all parties involved! This is how love for your fellow martial arts practitioner and sportsmanship is supposed to be shown! Bickering and being a sore loser is not a good look…this is the way ,and this is what our children need to see from us as an example.
i don't know why you think you could last toe to toe with a trained sport fighter. you might look good for the first 10 sec, maybe even a minute, but after that you're just going to gas out. there's no way you'll be able to keep up with a physically conditioned fighter who only trains to fight.
At 5.02 the long ooooooooooooo 😂 had me in bits
Tai Chi harness the power of nature and perfected with serenity. The Tai Chi master here forgot to harness that power, and perfectly sleeps... in Serenity... 😂😂😂✌️.
Those punches were horrendous 🤣
@dzen_dzenkazan8050
Ай бұрын
From both sides. I loocked without sound, Iso I'm not completely sure, who from them did mma and who was tai xhi practitioner
@johnjobber2219
Ай бұрын
If you call that a punch. It was more like pushing his arm forward.
@afterthefact6708
3 күн бұрын
Literally untrained. Looks like he never even struck a bag xD
Well, thank you for a wonderful job vlogging this! Love this.
It would be great to see demos from the “masters” before they fight, so we can see how they look doing forms. I suspect their taolu looks great and it’d underline the difference between coordination/ form and actual combat skills.
great content! luv ur work! aloha fr hawaii
@FightCommentary
Ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
Xu Xiaodong is going great work. There will be a time where his contribution to combat sports is appreciated for what it is
I love how in Tai Chi one of the principles is balance, yet he fell 2 times alone in less than 1 minute.
@dr.dylansgame5583
Ай бұрын
True even my Rooting Principles are In Practice Better Than His. And it's literally the only thing I've Practiced From Tai Chi outside of Flowing Odd Angle Strikes. And I'm sure I'm Trash Compared to the Real Deal.
@LeyvatenLoop
Ай бұрын
That's the difference between only practicing by yourself or in coordinated exercices vs practicing against live resistance. The moment you add the chaos of the fight, all technique goes out of the window if you're not used to it
@thedrunkmarxist
Ай бұрын
Yo why did i reply in different comment section
@arebee9024
Ай бұрын
@@dr.dylansgame5583 how often do you spar with these styles?
@dr.dylansgame5583
Ай бұрын
@@arebee9024 As far as Tai Chi goes while I don't use Flowing Strike Chains the way They Use Them often. I do however use the Rooting Aspects from Tai Chi and Kung Fu. During Brawls and Infighting. I've learned Full Control of My Feet to the Point I can almost use my Toes like Fingers. And Grip Each Individual Toe to the Floor like a Gripper. I've had people try to Move Me with Big Combinations and Pushing. And the Opponent can Rarely Move me Backwards or Out of Position.
This is what happens when fantasy meets reality... Credit to both teams ❤
I think this guy is the best of all the Tai Chi masters I have seen against Xu Xiaodong or his fighters. He would win against all the other masters.
@FightCommentary
Ай бұрын
Yeah. This tai chi master at least tried without making excuses (for now). Let’s see if he changes his tone in a few days.
@Quantum3691
Ай бұрын
@@FightCommentaryLooking forward to the follow-up video of excuses on why he lost the fight. 😆 He "didn't think using the Chi with the Tai was necessary."
@moominpic
Ай бұрын
Strange he agreed to just boxing when TC is largely grappling
@HiddenStr3ngth
Ай бұрын
@@moominpic He was doing badly at the clinch either way. Even though he was instinctively looking for it. Probably instinctively thinking he can avoid getting hit there. Even with these rules, shoulda done better at the clinch game.
@wenchengxue2164
Ай бұрын
I don’t think any tai chi master that fought him practiced real combat tai chi, probably only Wushu, not Sansa.
I find it funny that when arguing with a lot of these types of people they will say mma, kickboxing, BJJ, etc. are "just sports" and that if there were no rules their TMA would dominate. But when you actually see these challenge matches, they are the ones that request the most restrictive rule set possible! Lol. Because they inherently realize that getting rid of rules would help the so-called sport fighter more than it would help them.
@ArtoPekkanen
18 күн бұрын
Yeah, up to a point ... you don't see professional athletes fighting without any rules, ever. You need some rules to prevent certain injury and death, otherwise there's no price high enough to fight for -.-
@afterthefact6708
3 күн бұрын
US Army combatives is based off of MMA. Sometimes a close quarters fight ends up on the ground, in the clench. Basic MMA training has allowed me to come out on top in actual combat.
One of the min things martial arts teach is to be humble. Master was not humble at all and got a reminder and a lesson on humbleness.
Great footage. Thanks for sharing it! The commentary I didn’t care for.
Honestly one of my favorite parts of this video was the little mandarin lesson at the beginning. Great video bro
19 years old Mike Tyson scores a KO in less than 1 minute. 58 yr old Mike Tyson scores a KO in round 2.
Yea. Good work mate. That was a good round up.
I really wanted to see the original opponent fight him, he looked so offended that the so called tai chi master didn't want to fight an "older man" even though he himself is about the same age.
I got the impression the student could have overwhelmed the tai chi master. Kudos to him for cooking his instead of just immediately blasting him away. Kudos to the tai chi master for being willing to test himself against others. Most traditional masters won't.
I bet that wasn't even one of Xu Xiaodong's experienced students.
@FightCommentary
Ай бұрын
Yeah, doesnt look like it. He was a last minute sub, so likely didn’t even know he was going to do it.
@jackochan
Ай бұрын
@@FightCommentaryand that’s the beauty of it. If an amateur boxing training for a year or two defeats a master, it demonstrates the point even further. Pressure testing is the only way to train, no matter your style.
@DarukaEon
Ай бұрын
@@jackochan Thoroughly agree.
@adamtennant4936
Ай бұрын
Yeah, his guard wasn't very tight.
@BonVoyage861
28 күн бұрын
Xu would have spanked this guy within 30 seconds lol
He was like ....dam, where's the "MEDIC" 😂
Major props to the tai chi master and xu for respecting the guy.
Even Donnie Yen was humble enough to end his fight with Tyson in a semi draw.
@Billy-bc8pk
Ай бұрын
Semi draw? Basically he had the fight end with the timer running out just as Tyson was about to deal a killing blow -- he practically gave Tyson the win.
@mliao1
Ай бұрын
Are we talking about what I'm thinking about? Like, a scripted, choreographed, rehearsed scene in a movie both were acting in?
@alexchen5811
Ай бұрын
Ip Man lost in that movie. Tyson uppercut would have killed him whereas that flick kick to Tyson’s groin would have just given Tyson temporary pain (if it even struck the right place). Slack in pants can block groin kicks. Even kicking the wrong area of the groin would negate the kick.
@power50001562
Ай бұрын
@@alexchen5811you forget Ipman literally paralyzed a guy's arm with a pressure point technique, for all we know that groin kick could've given Tyson permanent testicular torsion
@TheAnsonysc
Ай бұрын
It's a movie!
The fight in this video is more "real" than the WWE tier match between Tyson & Jake.
@jimhofoss9982
Ай бұрын
I agree….but hope you’re wrong
I met Xu a number of times - and the Leech and Jiang Wei Li too. Trained with them at a few seminars. Hung out a bit, did a few dinners at restaurants etc. I'm surprised Xu is still alive, it was pretty scary there for a while. He himself was quite sure the CCP was gonna take him out. Great to see he's doing well.
This is like a Tyson vs. Paul. Young guy vs a senior citizen
Xu did good. He was respectful. He is learning to be an effective politician. Good video.
People familiar with the science of fighting disciplines in my experience, do not recognize Tai Chi as an effective style against more aggressive forms of combat. Tai Chi is extremely beneficial to the practitioner who looks to improve body and mind.
It looked like the younger guy wasn’t too serious to fight, he was kinda bored of playing with his toy 😂😂😂
Excellent display of how to get around the long guard w the front hook
Traditional M.A practitioner here, this “tai chi master” has zero stance zero structural power basically no training at all dude has no idea what he’s doing even if this is a push hand session he will also gets wrecked
@thedorejohnson3206
Ай бұрын
sad to say the tai chi master tai chi structure went out the window when time to fight. but, then again his structure never showed up. he was out of his element, haven't train for it.
@zszempty
Ай бұрын
Tai chi is an aerobic exercise…. It has nothing to do with fighting - it doesnt matter how good his ‘form’ is… the body mechanics are fundamentally flawed and will always end up losing to any conventional western fighting style… boxing and wrestling are true MA, everything else was MA fantasy with no context - For reference the boxer wasnt very good either… he was squared up 80% of the time, bad footwork, fell over himself and smothered his work - but the tai chi guy is so helpless… ive trained 12 year olds who could probably smoke this guy, honestly ive trained 15 year olds that will take out any guy trying to do tai chi - even with the correct ‘form’ - absolutely smashed.
@silkplayer9
Ай бұрын
@@zszempty thank you for your ignorant
@thedorejohnson3206
Ай бұрын
I can contest that tai chi does have combative techniques. Just need to know how to use them
@jailoutafreecard4414
Ай бұрын
@@thedorejohnson3206excuses
They should go gloveless, as the gloves give an advantage to the boxer for both blocking, and hand protection; it would likely still go down the same way, but it would show technique vs technique more readily. The self defense version of boxing is bare knuckle, and requires different techniques so you don't break your hands, which happens to a lot of boxers outside of the ring.
@deltalima6703
Ай бұрын
It turns into a bas ruten bloodbath. Not a good idea.
@deltalima6703
Ай бұрын
Without practice the boxer will break his hands but still demolish the opponent, hitting him full strength with broken hands. I have seen it. Boxers hands will heal but its bad for the boxers career. Opponents face will be every shade of purple you can imagine and very bloody.
@xAK47
23 күн бұрын
Gloveless doesn’t change anything. Maybe for this boxer because he’s not experienced enough lol but any really good amateur to professional it won’t change and outcome will be the same.
@MadRedCarnelian
23 күн бұрын
@@xAK47 I already said the outcome would likely be the same, but Yes it would change a Lot of things. Have you fought boxers in and outside of the ring? The gloves are a huge advantage to the boxer.
@xAK47
23 күн бұрын
@@MadRedCarnelian i box. And have a lot of amateur fights on me and also was locked up for 2 years for a battery charge that I never did community service..and I was fighting A TON in lock up… I’ve fought in the out of the ring. Gloves don’t change anything. Blocking changes yes but punch placement,power, and confidence to punch and land punches is all the exact same, the legit only difference between a street fight and boxing is wrestling/ grapping around lol
I’ll choose anyone who has been in a street fight over someone who’s practiced the non-practical martial arts for years. A person who’s never been punched in the face before are usually in shock mode, and are either in fight or flight response, or don’t have the mental strength to continue. And this is from a jab. If someone was rocked from a punch, forget it. It’s 100% mental and emotional after that. The feeling is you don’t know if you’re gonna survive or not. In reality, people do. It’s just the mental challenge of feeling your brain vibrating is scary.
Credit to the boxer for going easy i see others I think go to hard and that’s the training, boxers are like dogs I was taught the old school way I teach a little different I wouldn’t let any of my fighters go in and blast that old Man U get no credit for ko someone weaker that’s what I teach.
@afterthefact6708
3 күн бұрын
I get the feeling he was told not to hurt the guy by Xu. Xu has to be very careful lest the CCP disappear him x(
I'm a Hung Sing Choy Lee Fut guy, that was already fighting prior to learning kung fu. My father and older brother were black and brown belts in karate. So i grew up on knowing martial arts as early as i can walk. So, when I first joined my teachers school, i knew how to fight and they were shocked because i was in there sparring them on the first day. But, looking like this older guy, you can see he never had a real fight in his life and he's only going on the notion that tai chi works, theoretically. but you can see, this guy has no guard, doesn't know how to move around, not dodging or evading. if you're going to take your martial art into the fighting realms, one, you need to know how to fight first. two, make sure your basic punches, blocks and kicks are up to par. three, SPAR. Spar light, spar heavy, and spar often. This is why i make my own students do and is the reason why we did well on our very first ever match in the Muay Thai community.
Questionning his martial art is more painful that taking punches, that's why he keeps going
This was a middle school boxing match.
glad to see xu xiadong is still active and helping people to sort out the truth about martial arts
Who in God’s name is delusional enough to make a claim like that?!
I've never seen any of those ''masters'' display the ''mastery'' of their styles even in demonstration. Why do we call them masters? To make videos more catchy and viral? The quality of the defeated gives meaning to the victory. Where's the quality? If I show up and claim to be a master will I be on the next video? Why is there never any evidence of the lineage, the schools where they teach, the credentials, videos of demonstrations etc?
@lordbucket7755
Ай бұрын
Next I'd like to see a chess master show up and challenge them to a fight. :)
Thanks for sharing. Xu is such a good guy.
If Jake Paul will train in TaiChi, he can beat Iron Mike.
It looks like the younger guy was taking it easy for a while, then opened up on the tai chi guy.
That "master" doesn't even know to tuck his chin when he takes a fall? Would have been smooth knocked out on a sidewalk or street from that head contact to the ground.
@FightCommentary
Ай бұрын
Yeah. That fall could have been an instant KO.
@FlatlandMando
Ай бұрын
It seems that in china now, "Master is a word used loosely). What about all that " groundedness" they teach in tai chi. We should have seen so.e of that here!
@beowulf_of_wall_st
Ай бұрын
almost like he practices a very very slow dance instead of fighting
The master did WAY better than 99% of masters out there. He did A LOT better than i expected
2:03 was like a cartoon slip 😅
@FightCommentary
Ай бұрын
Yeah!!
@ComicusFreemanius
Ай бұрын
I've skated for more than two decades. You have no idea how many times I've seen this. It's everyone's first fall. and when you're head whips like that it should give you introspection.
@MetalizedButt
Ай бұрын
Xu shouts: “Damn it guys I said NO BANANA PEELS in the GYM!”
He had to hone his approach, to navigate through bullshido minefield.
Old Styles of fight work Muay Thai, Wrestling and Boxing are Ancient Styles and work but these Styles always have two guys making useful spar, Fighting for real always evolving.
@afterthefact6708
3 күн бұрын
MMA literally blends wrestling, kickboxing and eberything else that actually works.
The problem with most of these traditional martial artist is they practice mostly forms and pretend to hit each other. They rarely train where somebody hits them with full force.
If this is how a Tai Chi “master” fights, just imagine how a Tai Chi regular Joe fights!
@mordi2537
Ай бұрын
They don't
@richarddeerflame
Ай бұрын
certainly not a master here... he make Claim to be one but he is not. NO taiji was used here at all.
@BonVoyage861
28 күн бұрын
It's just light exercise, not a fighting style in reality
All of Taichi vs MMA fights prove one thing: the patriotism of Chinese matrial artists. Although they had seen how MMA beat the traditional MA, but they are still just coming. Stuborn yes, but also brave. Let we see how it will be in the future.
@medx1553
Ай бұрын
This is FAKE master, go to wudang temple to fight real taichi, or Chen style taichi family
@kenirawadi4689
Ай бұрын
@@medx1553 fake or not, he tried to defend the reputation of his arts. Thumbs up for him. I respect those who try although failed.
@medx1553
Ай бұрын
@@kenirawadi4689 wang Zhanjun's (real taichi) disciple Han Feilong challenged Xu Xiaodong to fight in the ring, why Xu Xiaodong didn't dare to accept his challenge ?
I would've never guessed he was a martial arts expert, just by looking at this match.
Gu.... Gu.....sounds cool. Fun to say. Much love. New sub.
Glad Xu is agreeing to such rules to accommodate "masters" that never trained for ground and pound. Levels the playing field.
"Beat Mike Tyson". Not sure about that even using an sniper rifle.
@MillenniumEarl014
Ай бұрын
Probably won't be able to carry the rifle lmaoooo
Respect to Tai Chi Master. He got balls to come in and test himself.
The fact he was in there with a boxer and stood any chance still says alot. The man ate a lot of good punches and gave back some of his own. Not everyone can say that. And he gets back up. I'm still impressed with this old man.
I just comment occasionally as participation I'm not making any claims one way or another.. I have heard it said that boxing styles vary from one country to another I remember tyson was going to fight one of the English champions of the day and tyson commented harshly as a fighter would as he's readying for his match that the English style was inferior or far old school as it compared to his style.. In this case I would say that this boxer could easily avoid that long guard with upper body movement while striking to the body and above in combinations that long guard should be of no consequence / oh and tyson did win the fight mentioned / Credit to anyone with training who is willing to professionally test their skills not every master is great just like not every fighter is great, and even that said sometimes luck is a factor aka murphy's law in this video case the boxer out matched the tai chi guy // Tyson vs Paul IF there are no behind the scenes agreements tyson could ko paul in round 1 if he's not running fast enough!! I would be shocked and suspicious if rd 4 is called . paul can Not take a punch from tyson
@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh
Ай бұрын
Depend of the Boxer Lennox Lewis showed the power and skill of the English Style.
@supervisorone5960
Ай бұрын
@@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh Yes several years later.. Fighters adapt, make changes they as individuals must find ways of improving its always up to the individual if not they just fade away
@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh
Ай бұрын
@@supervisorone5960 doesn't play the age card my friends Lennox are more older than Tyson.
@07bently
Ай бұрын
@@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh You are not making sense no one is talking about age! and Tyson is older than Paul.. just go away
@supervisorone5960
Ай бұрын
@@07bently Yes during the first few yrs of training in anything you are only as good as your trainer.. If your trainer doesn't believe in jabs you will have a weakness with jabs,. In boxing I have seen work outs in which one guy wasn't allowed to use his hands he could only use upper body movement to avoid punches, so if a trainer never teaches this that person will get hit allot. This applies to anything in any style.. / I was asked in the past if I was a trainer, no I am not I have taken lessons for a few yrs in boxing and 3 MA not ground fighting however. Just here to occasionally give a channel comment
hi Jerry, have you seen the videos of a wing chun master named Tu Tengyao ? his style is really striking, what would you think of a fight between Xu Xiaodong ( or one of his studant ) and Tu Tengyao ?
@umangternate
22 күн бұрын
Evil idea... 🤣 You want to ruin people peace 🤣
this was great! My teaching in Shanghai was always interested in how modern fighting and bagua or tai chi would do against each other. I think what has been lost is the practical application of these arts. they have turned it into a dance and have forgotten how to apply the pieces in a fight, and have lost timing all together. I hope more masters explore this. relearn it. this master was brave and dedicated to getting in there and explore and be willing to find out what he doesn't know, what doesn't work. now go back and rethink it. play with it, adjust, and try again.
Taichi man watched all ip man movies and got so pumped he forgot how to punch.
The master wanted a concussion, he got it.
People are clowning but guys...This Tai Chi master showed great compassion and restraint by not using his internal Chi powers which would have permanently injured or even killed his young less wise opponent. It was clear from the beginning that the master realized that an exhibition fight, clearly for no reason other than ego gratification, was not a place to truly unleash his power on a defenseless and foolish young man. Instead he wisely and bravely chose to take a beating himself rather than cause irreparable harm to a weaker man. He also knows that if western people ever saw the true power of internal MA that they would begin demanding to be taught these dangerous techniques and that well, we in the west just aren't ready for it. Better to let them mock what they aren't ready to understand than to unleash a bunch of barbarians trained in the art of chi on an already suffering world.
@rooroo9216
Ай бұрын
Excellent analysis, you also have to watch out for the masters that have “big bellies” that’s where they store their chi
@michaeltrinh4394
Ай бұрын
You, sir, are a truly magnanimous individual.
@dingosmith9932
Ай бұрын
Everyone knows that the chi is stored in the chi-balls
@unknownkay1775
Ай бұрын
Lmao
@Insecthouse
Ай бұрын
A Tai Chi master is supposed to be wise for letting someone beat him up? Not very wise or compassionate to himself. The wisest thing would have been to not let rip on the internet with ego driven claims about being able to beat other people. Then you don’t get in an escalating situation where you might have to use your Chi death ray.and take someone’s life. Shaolin monks trained to defend life , not egos.