High value, well articulated, entertaining video. Thanks guys!

@Kenposhinobi

Жыл бұрын

Hi Pairs.

@rangergreen1776

Жыл бұрын

Hey, Pairs. Love your videos!

@Ureyeuh

Жыл бұрын

***Loads Door Kickers 2***

@kenji5055

Жыл бұрын

@@Ureyeuh 😅😅

@communisttoaster121

Жыл бұрын

big world, small internet. More Ghosts of Tabor videos please.

5:09 BAHAHAHHAHA this is why u fucking love this content. Informative, long format, so I can hear you guys bounce ideas off each other using both of your experiences/expertises. And the funny gags in between and knee slapped jokes are what I am all here for.

I bought the GBRS group Tactical Triangle Cones and Frogman Million Mile Per Hour tape to practice this. They’re way better than regular cones and tape and a bargain at only $475.

@tennesseeprince

8 ай бұрын

Underated comment 😂

I can't tell you how much I love this and the way you guys break this down. I've spent the last 30 years training with professional fighters and trainers. Foot work and proper positioning is fundamental to everything we do and teach. Whether you are in the ring or clearing a room, understanding kinesiology, economy of movement and movement with purposeful action is key to being successful. Great stuff guys!

Just thought you guys might like to know that I often refer to and direct others to your channel while preparing my classes here in Ukraine. To help my guys remember which foot to start with in regards to buttonhook or cross I tell them to think of the leg that's closest to the wall as a forward or reverse shifter..... If we are doing a buttonhook that means we will be going in the opposite direction therefore our wall side leg (shifter) will be in the reverse position .... and forward position before initiating a cross.... Just thought you might like to hear that you guys are being very well received and your work is highly appreciated

I don't know when was the last time I pressed the bell button for a youtube channel but I did it for this one

20 years ago I stepped on yellow footprints on an Island in South Carolina. I am but a POG with some exceptional experience given a career of administrative oversights landing me in specialized infantry companies resulting in training with Recon and conducting operations with SEALs and Army SF in both Iraq and Afghanistan. To put it simply, I'm not a cool guy, but I've worked a lot with cool guys for awhile now. These videos have helped me put into words what I've known and said for the better part of 20 years. From clearing from outside the room to this video on footwork, I've always been able to demonstrate to friends and colleagues, but I've never been able to articulate it and quantify it so succinctly. Well done and I'm always proud to share your videos. Cheers, and keep up the excellent work!

Lol yall had me rolling at 5:09 hahah. Everything else was serious and then boom! Love it and I love the good training you guys are great to watch and learn from!

@FracturedPride

Жыл бұрын

My abs hurt from laughing at that ... 🤣🤣 Such great content, training, and humor. Can't wait to take their classes.

@davidortman1872

Жыл бұрын

@@FracturedPride lol it could not have been more random in such a serious seeming training video lol. I love their stuff!

Great video and explanation. I like how you provided sound reasoning behind your tactics and added context for the continental United States. Great to see.

Great video! I found it fascinating to see how similar the footwork and gun handling used in "tactical twister" are to practical/action competitive shooting. It makes sense that efficient movement and target engagement will have more similarities than differences, even when used in different applications and environments.

This evening we did active shooter training with my department. I wish I would have seen this prior, as it cleaned up and made my movement smoother. Thank you for the information. Greatly appreciated!

Excellent video!! Very informative. Keeping it fundamentality and tactically sound. Keep up the great work.

This is insanely valuable. 30 years ago you would have to personally know one of them and even then they might give a smidge of info. Thank you

Love the effective articulation and visuals. Thank you!

Great video, this has made a lot of stuff from other videos make sense for me.

This should be the number 1 channel on youtube.

Appreciate you guys a whole lot! Definitely screenshooting this and using it

What I found interesting when practicing the footwork was that it felt very similar to what I used to do when I used to play football. I was a tight end and offensive tackle and the footwork was very similar if I had to do a pulling block or do a shift.

@oriontraininggroupllc2782

4 ай бұрын

A long time ago some high level units actually hired NFL athletic coaches to teach them the most efficient way to move their feet. Some of this stuff comes directly from there.

My new fav channel

Great content and excellently delivered. Thank you guys for doing these. P.S. I would 1000% watch a Dora the Explorer themed OTG video!

Thanks guy's! Love the input!

I’d love to see a colab video with you guys and ronin tactics. I took so much of what he teaches by watching his videos and used it when I was teaching “CQB” classes at TBS.

Lovin' the stache my friend! Killin' it!

Excellent video brothers

Amazing info for free. Thank yall so much.

I like the longer video. Good job.

Sound foot work and gun manipulation are absolutely vital to fundamental room entry. It’s amazing how many people focus on so many other “tacticool” factors and neglect foot work and gun manipulation. Great video and knowledge transfer guys!

@arighteousname5882

Жыл бұрын

Many Teir 1 operators spend little time on "footwork" this tactical twister shit is for the birds. OTC is getting called out on this BS by guys who've done this in the real world.

@StrollaLawDefense

Жыл бұрын

@@arighteousname5882 I understand your point, especially about “guntubers” on social media. However, I am fortunate enough to train with some tier 1 operators down in Miami @conditiononegroup who absolutely value footwork upon entry into a room.

Beautiful

Really need to hit one of these courses up.

Another great video.

Tactical Dora: *Can you say 'violence of action'? Muy bien!*

The best cqb i have ever seen 💪😎

thank you very much sire , i will do this at home for airsoft sport training.

Gonna use this for my animations thanks!

Hey, love your videos, can you please do a video about engaging targets while panning or entering ?(targets in the middle of the room and not on the deep corners) thanks

@SPECTREXACTUAL

Жыл бұрын

Has multiple ones on this on the OTG insta page

@Jason32Bourne

Жыл бұрын

Second.

10:00 Jerad knew exactly what we all had our hands raised about lmfao Also... can we get a "repent and turn to Christ" OTG patch.

“Repent and turn to Christ” love this and love that you ain’t afraid to say it a lot

Would love to see a video of what to do with doors. How to open/breach/process etc

Im not sure how new the info is here but another variation of the buttonhook I have seen involves essentially change-stepping after the threshold has been broken. While doing this the muzzle is pointing in the intended direction of travel. When done at fullspeed it allows entry to be made and space to be cleared very quick.

Limited penetration. Nice! Great video keep up the great content

That rifle is on🔥

I just turned 21 and just bought my first pistol I’m trying to learn how to defend my home and country these videos have been so helpful

@Gnolomweb

Жыл бұрын

pistols are for every day use. you cant "defend" your country without a rifle

@sigxm5thumb

Жыл бұрын

@@Gnolomweb Hence why I’m learning and building my kit 🤦🏿‍♂️smooth brain mf

@sigxm5thumb

Жыл бұрын

@Total Indoc lol another Fudd over here

@sigxm5thumb

Жыл бұрын

@Total Indoc 🤡

@ImperiumLibertas

Жыл бұрын

@Total Indoc I'd argue any citizen related operation would be covert and concealed making smaller guns like pistols, PDW, and SBRs way more relevant than any long rifle. Ideally any problem you'd need a full length rifle to solve could also be avoided. Maybe a QRF could use a rifle in case a group of concealed guys get caught up by Chinese Communist Invaders domestic or foreign. If you like being alive I recommend not doing anything out in the open unless there is no other option. This is all in Minecraft when the Chinese communists invade the homeland of course.

They should make a plate carrier attachment that’s like a sensor for the mantis systems so it’s basically next level lazer tag.

Impressive footwork. Now let's see Paul's.

Great video! Anyway to get a drawing of the button hook layout you have?

When something so dynamic and intricate is explained by professionals, you know its done properly because now I think I can one man cqb with no issues.

good bro

Perfect! When we use buttonhook and when we use crossfire?

Wish you guys offered training in GA.

At 11:53, something clicked with me from years of baseball camps, and being a lead-off runner. You're talking about hips moving, but let me suggest, if you're angling your hips--which you should--and crossing your feet, a good pickoff move will have you dead to rights. With crossed feet you can't get out of the way of a surprise. You can't dive back to 1st base on the leadoff. I'd suggest, basically, bringing your feet to a "center", not crossing them during your 'pie', and yet maintain equilibrium, so you can get to cover if someone starts shooting through the door. Don't cross your foot. Take smaller steps during the pie and you can move in either direction in case the threat is exposed and sends fire. In baseball, we'd do that in case the pitcher decided a quick pickoff to first. Seems to me, similar idea. Someone is trying to pick you off from a secured space. It's how I do training with others and seems to work. Does my text description make sense? Basically, don't cross your feet...in case.

@oriontraininggroupllc2782

Жыл бұрын

I would disagree. That’s a pan, not a pie, it’s a rapid movement. Small steps and not crossing the feet at any point defeats the purpose of the technique.

@preacher1776

Жыл бұрын

@@oriontraininggroupllc2782 Wish I'd have seen your reply a bit ago. The thing that I'm suggesting as an old ballplayer was the steps at 11:50 and how it resembled a lead off. Getting your feet crossed up as you stepped off from 1st base left you vulnerable to a snap pick-off. Since your feet are crossed over you can't move one way or another very rapidly. So, rather than cross your feet on the lead off, just bring them to shoulder width and "stutter step". Collapsing a door seems to be like a lead off position. If you cross your feet then see the bad guy, you lose seconds getting out of the way of incoming rounds because of crossed feet. Hopefully that makes sense the way I described it. It's just, be biometrically ready to move in case of emergencies.

5:11 Violated my last few braincells.

Did you post a video of dealing with far threats (I.e. room with an open door or window with another room that may have threats), dealing with covering threats from a hallway while entering a room, and what to do you do after clearing a room (I.e. communication and where you go next)?

There are many ways to skin a cat.. so the saying goes. These were very good examples. Good demonstration.

Big up Eli at project gecko

The fish got me lol

So you visually cleared the right side why would you continue in that direction if the left hand isn’t cleared yet?

@bloodyshrapnel2119

9 ай бұрын

Exactly. Literally turning his back to 95% of a unchecked room. Makes zero sense. Back would be blown out.

OTG 🔥🔥🔥🔥

8:19 THIS!!!! Watch this section especially. The OTG boys can’t stress enough the importance of this section. Breaking the rifle over the shoulder (or under arm) while breaching that doorway. Dead space has NO CHANCE!

5:09 that is all

At 02:30 you're exposed from the back and from your left side. Why not slice the pie?

Any plans to come to Idaho for classes?

Very informative video guys . Question does the first man flip his safety to fire before entry or is he waiting until threat appears before flipping it hot.

@oriontraininggroupllc2782

Жыл бұрын

Gun goes to “fire” when a threat is identified

@seanwhite304

Жыл бұрын

@@oriontraininggroupllc2782 thanks

@Gnolomweb

Жыл бұрын

@@seanwhite304 safety off always

Damn I can't believe this old man told us to touch grass 😂

What no one has made a video on.. is what if the target knows you are at the threshold already and ready to combat you..? Is there something done differently then or is it the same?

why when youre doing a buttonhook is the first step into the room with your left foot (at 9:00 for example) instead of the right foot? It seems like if you were going to flow into the room going in the same direction the first foot in should be the right foot? It feels like youre crossing your legs with the buttonhook. great video

@oriontraininggroupllc2782

Жыл бұрын

If you watch the whole video we talk about changing that.

rifle under armpits is a huge knowledge transfer moment

@williamp.4617

Жыл бұрын

even huger from mike

@fuhwurd

Жыл бұрын

@@williamp.4617 frfr 💀💀💀💀

@Gnolomweb

Жыл бұрын

@Total Indoc you dont need sights in cqb

I’m an airsofter and I’m always watching cqb videos to learn more and better improve. From a different cqb vid I’ve seen them recommend you transition your rifle to your other hand if the enemy’s in the right hand corner. They’ve also recommended you clear as much of the room from outside of the room before crossing the threshold. May be a dumb question but is it better to transition to your off hand to clear the corners and clear the room before you go inside? Or rather just clear the two corners (say it’s a center fed room) from outside and THEN go inside and clear the other corners?

@oriontraininggroupllc2782

Жыл бұрын

Go watch the other videos we have done on all of that

@Samuel-ry1hk

5 ай бұрын

ayoooo i just came across your comment, also an airsofter as well. But i completely agree with the idea of clearing a room as much as possible before crossing the threshold. It makes sense considering it limits the factors of bad guys being in the general area before you clear deep corners. That being said, it also makes sense to clear as much as possible outside the room, in case if someone was in the centre (for example) you get hit, but now you can be pulled back from members, or at LEAST have some sort of cover. Was cool coming across your comment!

👍

Has one of you guys been to a class or something?

Just like Burt gummer 😎

At 2:29, foots in the room, head is well out of the room. Some thoughts on that?

If SOPs don’t dictate flowing, buttonhooking, or heavy side entry and it was all up to the number 1 man; I feel like I would have to anticipate the 1 man’s move if I was the number 2 man. But obviously you can guess wrong if you are anticipating. Any tips for the number two man on how to read the number 1 man while limiting time and distance?

@Guardian179

Жыл бұрын

Keep your head up and read the orientation of the shoulders and hips. Look how his body language is different between button hooking and and straight in. By the first step in, you can see his hips orienting to the direction he's intending to go. You are right on his ass, and ass soon as his body clears your path of movement, you are making entry opposite.

@oriontraininggroupllc2782

Жыл бұрын

The above comment is right, but also, make an SOP on general movement without making it so concrete that it’s hindering individual ability to make decisions

Can somebody explain me why you put the stock of the gun above your shoulder before room entry?

@simonsundy518

11 ай бұрын

They literally explain it in the video

Very old school. Wow. Update.

To be honest, to satiate most of our needs and to aid in our understanding I need to see how Swat/DOD/police video breakdowns - implements it irl. Sort of like mike Glover does his vids

What is the point of having a short barrel if you still have to put the butt over your shoulder?

What pc is that at the 1st part?

Simple question, with the handgun in compress ready, why do not put the handgun on the side of the threshold ?

@oriontraininggroupllc2782

Жыл бұрын

I don’t understand your question

@Forley

Жыл бұрын

@@oriontraininggroupllc2782 Sorry, I'm not native English. I mean, when you compress ready with your pistol, why do you compress it to your left when the door is on your right. Is it a personal preference or is there a reason? Because for me it seems more logical to leave it on your right side (since the door is on the right)

What about the bad dude who is on the other side of the room, when #1 dude walks in and gets blasted in the back?

I’ve had people tell me that the bent wrist over-the-shoulder rifle position isn’t right …it’s not a stable firing position and also you can’t get an accurate shot off from there. As opposed to just keeping it slightly collapsed inside your armpit at most and staying over your rifle optic. Regiment tends to do it this way. I’d like to put this debate to rest and figure out why which is better or worse

Lol @5:08

15:54

We don't slice the pie anymore?

5:09 what was that?

The way that you’ve set yourself up in the threshold for entry, your angle of approach if you will, allows you to enter without breaking your buttstock from your shoulder. So why still do it?

@ericpowers2711

Жыл бұрын

During your buttonhook, simply backing up from the threshold about a foot would have prevented the muzzle from protruding and you can keep the buttstock in contact with your shoulder.

@Kenposhinobi

Жыл бұрын

@@ericpowers2711 1. You can’t always make a wide movement if you are in a tight hallway. 2. If you are the number two man and your buddy is already flowing in, you can’t sacrifice time to make wider turn. You need to be on your buddy’s ass to cover the opposite side.

@ericpowers2711

Жыл бұрын

His first approach through the threshold wasn’t a buttonhook. And went path of least resistance. Still compressed the rifle and removed the buttstock from his shoulder. I understand it’s a technique when dealing with really tight quarters, however if it’s not warranted I’d venture to say it shouldn’t be your default technique. And that hallway they’re working in appears wide enough to allow the one man to take a step back as he buttonhooks so as to not have his rifle protruding into the room, or worse and in the case of the example given, leading with his face.

@Kenposhinobi

Жыл бұрын

@@ericpowers2711 that is a method as well. But it would classify as a “center check”, and not a button hook. which they have a video on as well, their curriculum is about being flexible and learning all the methods to do something so you don’t limit yourself. These videos are purely isolations to show the different methods of doing things. When flowing path of lease resistance, he still short stocks because the point isn’t just to fit the gun through the threshold, it’s also to deliver your eyes,muzzle, optic, arms and foot together so you don’t give any pre fight indicators. And for those of us that run suppressors, short stocking is almost always a necessity. but they still tech that keeping the gun shouldered, flowing in more of a 45 degree through the threshold and snapping to your point of domination is a method too. They are all tools that can be used based on mission and situation.

@ericpowers2711

Жыл бұрын

Pre fight indicators? You’re entering a room with the intent to potentially hurt someone. Your default technique should reflect that. And entering with your buttsock mounted to your shoulder does not require you to enter with your weapon and body moving through the threshold at a 45. And your rifle held at a depressed muzzle does not restrict your vision as much as you would think.

Room clearing is scary crap , I’ll take my place in the wood line in a scope

5:09!!!!😂😂😂wtf

Ronin would disagree with which foot you lead with in a flow entry. Strong foot in front.

nuh-roo-toe

The first room u were clearing, you would also be yelling out short room because of how small the room is . That way you ain't got 3 or 4 dudes cluster fxked in a tiny room.

Naruto is best anime homie

thumbs up #69 \m/

Soooo anyone notice the pufferfish?

5:09 WtF was That all about lol.

😂😅😆😁😄

Lost me at good diet

😂😂😂😂

It's not a good idea to cross your feet

Footwork = bull-shit + the opening seems wider than a normal doorway. Why isn't there are a door? Probably because as soon as you present a real door, that foot work mumbo jumbo goes right out the window. CQB is conceptual not technical, the more you do it, the more you realize it.

I swear to you footwork is not that big of a deal in the real world.

@oriontraininggroupllc2782

Жыл бұрын

I swear to you it is a big deal.

@anjewblacks3343

Жыл бұрын

@@oriontraininggroupllc2782 Well yeah in the video. But not when you’re trying to shoot someone and someone’s trying to shoot you. No one’s thinking about that.

@oriontraininggroupllc2782

Жыл бұрын

@@anjewblacks3343 you shouldn’t be thinking about it all… because you’ve trained it to a level that it’s a natural part of your movement… just like any part of shooting. Think about it for a few more seconds and you’ll get there 😅

@Gnolomweb

Жыл бұрын

@@anjewblacks3343 shooting through walls is always recommended

@anjewblacks3343

Жыл бұрын

@@Gnolomweb stop listening to whoever you got that from