Systems Thinking Ep. 3 - First Principles Thinking

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  • @Dan-oj4iq
    @Dan-oj4iq11 ай бұрын

    In Dave's videos, the content is the cake and the delivery is the icing. No icing? No cake.

  • @fR33Sky
    @fR33Sky8 ай бұрын

    I'm definitely late to the discussion, yet I have something to add. Maybe it was covered in some other videos I haven't yet seen, but I believe that emotions should be stated explicitly as one of the diagonal elements of this mental matrix. Now, when I used the cool term I wanted to use, let me explain. To learn something new about yourself, you'll have to probe your ideas against someone or something else. Ultimately, all the implemented dogmas and rules are still created by humans. But each one of us has emotions. Say, when a person learns that stealing is bad in this society, they reason it their own way. They might think "oh, that's because in a long term you can't build a stable society like that", but the reasoning of their teacher is "my father said he would beat me if I do so". That is not a system of thinking, that is an emotion of fear. I remember that in your video you've included emotions implicitly, through the society around the person and with the Musk's example, yet I am certain that some in some individuals those terms are intertwisted. If emotions are not stated, they might end up in a "oh, why didn't I think of that earlier" moment after an influenced crucial decision was already made. I'm mature enough to say that I'm attached to the "borg outcome" emotionally, but also to note that a ton of people haven't figured themselves out. An emotional trap of sticking with something because it's familiar and/or likeable with a phrase "this is the right thing to do" is always there. If you don't consider a chance of that in others, you might never find it in yourself. This also goes with any type of neurodivergence. I know that my own reasoning is somewhat strange and unobvious to a typical person, so I constantly have to probe my ideas against another human being to tell how nuts they actually are. But for 26-ish years I firmly believed that "close your eyes and imagine X" was a purely rhetorical thing! Yet there are people out there who can literally hallucinate at will. Nonsense.

  • @akosuakoranteng3327
    @akosuakoranteng33279 ай бұрын

    You’re incredibly smart and this content is super valuable! Thanks!

  • @Gome.o
    @Gome.o11 ай бұрын

    - Would you have any recommendations for pursuing hobbies / careers that accelerate the journey towards stage 5? E.g. Learning programming? - @37:04 it might be helpful to list out some features of 'cognitive dissonance,' to make it easier to spot. Based on your video, I assume feeling 'emotionally defensive' might be a good marker, though I'm sure you have a much more comprehensive list ☺ - Lastly, when checking against what you know, what's a good way to determine if you have the necessary arbitrary amount of knowledge (e.g. in your example "Do I have all the information)? Great video. I'm going back and watching ep 1 and 2 right now 😇

  • @ThomasButryn
    @ThomasButryn2 ай бұрын

    Great show with powerful information! Thank you.

  • @Recursively_
    @Recursively_11 ай бұрын

    Glad to see this series continue on 🎉

  • @jifuniversal7653
    @jifuniversal76539 ай бұрын

    Loving the series! you made mention of the triple A manifesto in a video earlier, which has me excited about where you're headed in this series. Considering the challenges some systems of thought might pose due to autism. Would love to hear your neurospicy perspective on emotional intelligence and sensory integration. you alluded to boundaries ( had me thinking about inconsistency in convergence of social theory terms and topology in math ), do say more.! Feedback Loops and Homeostasis, Cybernetics, filtering and habituation also come to mind. anyways, thank you for your thoughtful words, and inspiring voice. cheers

  • @akosuakoranteng3327
    @akosuakoranteng33279 ай бұрын

    what ive come accros related to analytical third space and the theory of cognitive development is the ability to recognize that multiple things can be true at the same time- we tend to think in either x or y and as you grow older your realize some things are x and y, something’s are not either/or but both/and - thinking this way I find makes one cognitively more flexible and able to think more broadly

  • @quincytaylor9201

    @quincytaylor9201

    12 күн бұрын

    I've seen this referred to as "Block logic". The way most people approach logic is through "Step logic".

  • @benjaminbertram2886
    @benjaminbertram28868 ай бұрын

    These are great videos!

  • @chitrasrivastava7551
    @chitrasrivastava75514 ай бұрын

    Learning a lot from this. Thank you for putting this out :)

  • @TimeoWilliams
    @TimeoWilliamsАй бұрын

    Fantastic vid > will be using these GPT questions

  • @SiiKiiN
    @SiiKiiN11 ай бұрын

    Nice flow to the presentation. not many people understand this perspective

  • @TheInfinite91
    @TheInfinite9111 ай бұрын

    So good. Thank you.

  • @thesimplicitylifestyle
    @thesimplicitylifestyle3 ай бұрын

    Simplicity is the key if we want to live lifestyles that are joyful and free.

  • @ytpah9823
    @ytpah98234 ай бұрын

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🧠 *The video explores first principles thinking in systems thinking, unpacking foundational principles and assumptions.* 01:07 🤔 *First principles thinking involves breaking down complex ideas into basic elements, as famously practiced by Elon Musk.* 01:36 🌐 *Modernism and post-modernism are key intellectual movements shaping our understanding of truth and knowledge.* 02:45 📚 *Post-modernism challenges the notion of universal truths, considering truth subjective and influenced by cultural contexts.* 04:07 📈 *The Pyramid of Knowledge illustrates how data is transformed into wisdom, with each level adding interpretation and meaning.* 06:28 💡 *Post-modernism emphasizes that truth is shaped by beliefs, evidence, interpretation, and consensus, highlighting the power of narrative.* 09:24 🔍 *First principles thinking requires unpacking assumptions influenced by familial, cultural, and educational backgrounds.* 11:30 🕵️‍♂️ *To practice first principles thinking, challenge and explore underlying assumptions and beliefs.* 13:21 🐠 *The goldfish bowl metaphor symbolizes the limitations of our understanding and the importance of exploring beyond our immediate environment.* 14:32 🌍 *Historical context is key to understanding the formation of beliefs, requiring a look at the timeline of events leading to current perspectives.* 18:04 🤓 *Elegant simplicity inexplanations is crucial in first principles thinking; complexity often masks a lack of understanding.* 20:06 🧐 *Optimize for clarity and simplicity in foundational principles to achieve robust and defensible understanding.* 21:43 🧠 *Cross-pollination or cross-training the brain in various disciplines helps break down siloed thinking, leading to more robust first principles thinking.* 22:23 🚧 *Academic and intellectual pride often create barriers to interdisciplinary learning and sharing of knowledge.* 23:05 💡 *Conformity in academia is reinforced by power structures, limiting the exploration of ideas outside established norms.* 24:29 🚀 *Questioning established norms, like Elon Musk did with reusable rockets, exemplifies the benefits of challenging conventional wisdom.* 25:37 🎨 *Creative hobbies and diverse interests can enhance problem-solving skills, especially in STEM careers.* 26:27 🔄 *Cross-training in different roles or disciplines provides valuable insights and understanding of interconnected processes.* 27:24 📚 *Being a polymath or transdisciplinary thinker involves studying intersections across multiple disciplines, leading to broader insights and understanding.* 29:15 🧐 *Analytical third space is the ability to hold and explore opposing ideas, leading to deeper understanding and reconciliation of different perspectives.* 31:22 💭 *Developing the skill of analytical third space enables one to navigate various schools of thought and reconcile seemingly incompatible ideas.* 34:04 🔍 *Finding universal principles requires transcending traditional boundaries and understanding the interplay of various disciplines and ideas.* 37:45 🌟 *First principles thinking involves unpacking assumptions, seeking elegant simplicity, cross-pollination, using analytical third space, and discovering universal principles.* Made with HARPA AI

  • @mnrvaprjct
    @mnrvaprjct11 ай бұрын

    Awesome video. I’ve been developing something I call the “Minerva Project” which embraces a systems thinking, first principles approach.

  • @JeremyPickett
    @JeremyPickett11 ай бұрын

    Great presentation on wildly useful and entertaining subjects. I'm just an nobody, an internet rando. So here is your Ceres of salt. Analytical third space is a synonym for hidden variables. Even axioms have hidden variables lurking around, with those pesky hoo-man words, observational constraints, the ivory tower (and to some extent NIMBY problem) which you graciously laid out. Love your work, when some dupe^C^C^C work opportunity you and Matt Wolfe are the next in my fiercesom firestorm^C^C^CGAH I mean list of patreons I need to give back to. In the meantime, I'll just draw more chickens and cows with wildly strange hairdos.

  • @juanandresalvarezjaramillo
    @juanandresalvarezjaramillo5 ай бұрын

    The ThirdSpace is deeply analyzed by Robert Greene in Mastery. I recommend this book to you. Hey thanks for such a deep knowledge. It's amazing!

  • @Bokbind
    @Bokbind3 ай бұрын

    An exercise for the reader: Use first principles thinking to analyze David Shapiro's thoughts ethics in philosophy.

  • @DaikiTorusukii
    @DaikiTorusukii5 ай бұрын

    There’s a term for you Analytical thirdspace, it’s “Negative Capability” - John Keats

  • @dipeshwaltz7370
    @dipeshwaltz73706 ай бұрын

    Found u recently.. love from India❤ A small promise to give u Many folds in return when my time comes😊

  • @stefanguiton
    @stefanguiton11 ай бұрын

    Excellent

  • @zguiguiz
    @zguiguiz5 ай бұрын

    French philosopher Bruno Latour (who passed a couple years ago, has always been all-in with analytical thirdspace 😉

  • @rileybrownai
    @rileybrownai11 ай бұрын

    You’re the goat.

  • @user-tv9ki3ij6t
    @user-tv9ki3ij6t11 ай бұрын

    where did you get the sweater from? Asking for a nerd

  • @Systems.Thinking

    @Systems.Thinking

    11 ай бұрын

    I don't remember. Probably Kohls or something

  • @girishtallamraju207
    @girishtallamraju2076 ай бұрын

    Non conformance Non Confrontation Non Linear 😊

  • @KlaneSight
    @KlaneSight9 ай бұрын

    Worrrrrd 🤯

  • @marktellez3701
    @marktellez37016 ай бұрын

    There are some universal values among humans, but not a common full set. The problem is we mix the two and then calculate 0

  • @yokoso2386
    @yokoso238610 ай бұрын

    First principles : - foundation principles - axioms - universal principles - core assumptions

  • @yukitadano5098
    @yukitadano50987 ай бұрын

    Idk about milk, but some hardware stores do actually carry groceries.

  • @roryroberts-yu5tg

    @roryroberts-yu5tg

    7 ай бұрын

    And have bars for the DIYer that’s given up

  • @roryroberts-yu5tg
    @roryroberts-yu5tg7 ай бұрын

    Highly doubt musk who started in digital companies was pioneering ideas for rocket science lol

  • @faqtum
    @faqtum6 ай бұрын

    Why put yourself in front of the texts?

  • @tabathaogost4982
    @tabathaogost49825 ай бұрын

    36:16 "The post modernist era which says there is no such a thing as universal truth, but instead there actually is and this is the framework by which morality works" What? Is he saying that Truth = morals?

  • @markkeeper7771
    @markkeeper77717 ай бұрын

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🧠 Introduction to Systems Thinking and First Principles Thinking - Overview of the video series on systems thinking. - Introduction to first principles thinking and its relevance. - Patreon plug for support. 01:22 🤔 Understanding Epistemics and Modernism vs. Post-modernism - Explanation of epistemics: theory of knowledge and how we know things. - Overview of modernism and its belief in absolute truths and rationality. - Introduction to post-modernism, questioning universal truths, and the post-truth era. 04:07 🌐 Post-modernism and Its Impact - Illustration of the Pyramid of Knowledge representing the distillation of information. - Discussion on post-modernism, truth as subjective, and the influence of cultural foundations. - Mention of thought-stopping platitudes and their use in politics and media. 06:55 ⚖️ Strengths and Weaknesses of Post-modernism - Emphasis on the strengths of post-modernism: questioning dogma, challenging status quo. - Acknowledgment of the danger of taking skepticism too far, leading to misinformation. - Insight into the historical context and motivations behind post-modernist thinking. 09:24 🚀 First Principles Thinking in Action - Elon Musk's Example - Elon Musk's approach to first principles thinking in reusability of rockets. - The power of questioning established norms in academia and the Zeitgeist. - Highlighting the importance of foundational assumptions in thinking differently. 11:30 🕵️ Unpacking Assumptions - Step 1 of First Principles Thinking - Discussion on exploring assumptions from familial, cultural, and educational influences. - Explanation of the goldfish bowl metaphor and the need to zoom out for a broader perspective. - The importance of historical and geographical context in understanding assumptions. 13:50 🔄 Zooming Out for Perspective and Comparing Assumptions - Encouragement to reverse engineer beliefs and understand the historical context. - Importance of geographical context and epistemic tribes in shaping assumptions. - Advantages of comparing and contrasting different cultural perspectives. 18:04 🧐 Elegant Simplicity - Second Step of First Principles Thinking - Emphasis on Einstein's idea that true understanding involves explaining concepts simply. - Importance of elegant simplicity in foundational principles. - Examples of elegantly simple principles in physics, economics, and biology. 20:06 🦉 Cross Pollination for First Principles Thinking - Warning against over-specialization and the weakness it can breed. - Critique of academic silos and the reluctance to borrow from other disciplines. - Advocacy for cross-pollination and cross-training of the brain for more holistic thinking. 23:05 🌐 Academic Conformance and Rejecting Outsiders - Western academic culture emphasizes conformance and punishes non-conformance. - Legacy of colonialism and patriarchy influences academic attitudes. - Resistance to ideas from outside the established academic circles, especially if lacking a traditional pedigree. 25:37 🧠 Cross-Training for Intellectual Growth - Cross-training the brain is as valuable as physical cross-training for athletes. - Encourages exploration of diverse disciplines for a broader perspective. - Relates creative hobbies, especially for STEM individuals, to higher success and problem-solving. 27:39 🔄 Transdisciplinary Thinking - Advocacy for being transdisciplinary or a polymath. - Highlights the historical shift from the possibility of knowing everything to increasing specialization. - Deliberate cultivation of a transdisciplinary mindset for intellectual enrichment. 29:15 🤹‍♂️ Analytical Third Space - Introduction and exploration of the concept of analytical third space. - Ability to entertain opposing ideas without immediate acceptance. - Emphasis on the practice of analytical third space for cognitive flexibility. 34:04 🌐 Discovering Universal Principles - The progression from challenging assumptions to discovering universal principles. - Connecting stages of moral and cognitive development to understand morality pedagogically. - Emphasizes the transcendence of post-modernist skepticism in finding universal truths. 36:34 🛠️ Overcoming Cognitive Dissonance - Practical steps to overcome cognitive dissonance and enhance analytical thinking. - Importance of distilling information, gaining diverse perspectives, and questioning assumptions. - Checklist for approaching problems systematically and achieving first principles thinking. Made with HARPA AI

  • @lesterpaints
    @lesterpaints11 ай бұрын

    Couldn't read behind you 😢

  • @Gome.o

    @Gome.o

    11 ай бұрын

    Once you reach stage 5, you can 😉

  • @j.samuelwaters81
    @j.samuelwaters813 ай бұрын

    12:54 "enculturate" is the word you wanted here. It describes the same kinds of behaviors and outcomes as indoctrinate, but isn't similarly laced with accusation

  • @Systems.Thinking

    @Systems.Thinking

    3 ай бұрын

    No, I meant indoctrination.

  • @psychocritico5738
    @psychocritico573811 ай бұрын

    🗿🍷