Sadly some people in government and in the Eco green lobby won’t want this as they just don’t want people to have personal transport at all any more. To the rest of us in the motoring world this is fantastic news . This has given hope to all who love their ICE vehicles, classic or modern. Well done guys!

@brutter602

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathanparle8429 Totally agree, well said! Well apart from the bit with “off their heads”😆

@froggy0162

Жыл бұрын

The experiment with the car age has been run and the verdict is in - everyone using personal cars to get around is a shit idea and absolutely should be discouraged. Very few of us are car enthusiasts, most people just want to get around cheaply and conveniently and better city design and public transportation is the solution to congestion and all the health and productivity problems of mass car use.

@burntnougat5341

Жыл бұрын

@@froggy0162 no it's not. Cities aren't for everyone and won't be for everyone. Even in highly metropolitan countries like Japan, the people prefer cars when they can use them. Go back to your reddit hovel bugman!

@nielsei

Жыл бұрын

@@froggy0162 not everyone lives in or around a city.

@froggy0162

Жыл бұрын

@@nielsei The percentage of the population that wouldn’t benefit from better urban design and improved transportation options is very small. You’ll always find edge cases, but we are playing the big picture game here and disincentivising car use in urban areas has many economic and public health benefits.

Thank you I've been saying this for years about synthetic fuel, why are the government going down this EV route it's so frustrating.

@cadifan

Жыл бұрын

Same here. Government's are having a knee jerk reaction to the whole thing. The only people who benefit from EV's are car manufacturers because it means you have to buy their new cars. They don't want alternative fuels keeping cars on the road that they've already sold.

@drankfrebin

Жыл бұрын

The same reason they pumped vaccines out, compliy or feel the wrath of fumes etc . Do people not remember when you was told to get a diesel vehicle. People get brainwashed too easily, not saying you of course

@Andrew-tr5zg

Жыл бұрын

Exactly why not use the existing infrastructure we already have that's been tried, tested and refined (Excuse the pun) for the last 100 Years? All that spare wind power they keep saying they can't use when the wind blows at the wrong time - whn no one needs electricity - why not use it for generating fuels? The thing with EVs is the idealistic there is no tailpipe emissions, but that is only at the end product, what about all the manufacturing, all the extra infrastruture needed, all the conversion of all that machinery, re-development of engineering concepts. How much energy does that need, and will need in the next 20 or so Years, and you can't tell me hand on heart that it'll be green energy.

@MaryAnnNytowl

Жыл бұрын

There's nothing wrong with EVs, and there's NO reason why BOTH of these things can't be done at the same time! As the quote goes, "both is good."

@cadifan

Жыл бұрын

@@MaryAnnNytowl There's nothing wrong with actual EV's, but their incredibly polluting batteries, not so great!

I salute these people! Let's get this stuff out there as quickly as possible, before many more people bin off engines in favour of electric motors (the equivalent of replacing an antique clock's innards with a quartz mechanism).

@Brian-om2hh

Жыл бұрын

Er, you have been able to buy synthetic petrol in Britain for decades. It's called Aspen, and is used by those who often manage tree plantations etc. It has no smell, and doesn't go "off" like unleaded does if left for a while. The cost? It's around £30 per gallon..... And the projections so far completed have indicated that they may (may) be able to produce and market this new stuff for around £10 per litre. There is *never* going to be enough of this stuff to go round. It is estimated the plant, once built, may be able to produce around 500 million litres per year. Just to give that some scale, the World gets through more petrol than that in a single *day* Don't build your hopes up. It's a non starter. The primary aim is to keep Porsche's motorsport activities viable once supplies of petrol become sporadic, which could begin to happen within the next 10 years.

@Stego27

Жыл бұрын

@@Brian-om2hh So you're saying about 365 (or maybe about 500) plants would be enough to supply the entire world with current levels of supply. There are about 700 oil refineries in the world, and on top of that electric vehicles will mean that demand for petrol will decrease significantly.

@usernamesreprise4068

Жыл бұрын

@@Brian-om2hh Errrrm ten pounds a litre works out to 45 quid a gallon since a gallon is 4.5 litres so even more expensive by your reasoning, BUT you appear to calculate this cost based simply on the output of ONE single smallish refinery as if that was going to be the be all and end all of it and therefore for a fuel thirsty world it could never be viable......wonder what would have happened a 120 years ago if people with more vision than you seem to have thought as you do when the infernal combustion engine was invented.........and you could only buy a gallon of fuel..........at your local CHEMISTS - which was the only place that supplied it as petrol stations etc hadnt been invented yet ? and, as far as I can tell when converted for inflation over that 120 years was more or less just as expensive as the prices you allude to ?.and besides our new "one world" government I worry more about middle eastern potentates (opec) and the global giant hydrocarbon fuel corporations and other vested interests killing off the competition to their revenue streams, as they are widely known to have done in the past.

@scottcarr3264

Жыл бұрын

But the Government still have no idea how to Generate ENOUGH Electricity 24/7 to be able to Charge all those EV's, neither there in England or Here in Australia, "our" Government have even LESS ideas than you do. All you hear them chanting is "Renewables, renewables, renewables", and everyone knows that you can't have 24/7 Electricity with JUST RENEWABLES, Germany nearly Froze to Death last Winter because they put ALL their money on Renewables [ just like the Australian Labour Party has ]. This is all going to come to a very bad end, I can see it. There MUST be a mixture of Ideas for Energy and The Governments are cutting every tie to other sources, other than renewables for some reason, and the Australian Government has made a Commitment to be "out of" fossil fuels by 2030, with basically no plan B for 24/7 Electricity, and they don't even want to discuss Thorium Nuclear, Which would be our Best Choice here.

@davidgapp1457

Жыл бұрын

If you want to pay the equivalent of $32 per gallon, be my guest.

This is the best lifeline out there for our classic cars. Let's hope some outlets can be dotted around the country in the very near future. Excellent vid, thanks.

@ParaBellum2024

Жыл бұрын

Not just for classic cars. All cars.

@scottcarr3264

Жыл бұрын

If it is anything like EV Charging Stations it will take a Looong time, AND you have the entire "EV only" crowd making things as impossible as they can.

@chrisbaker121924

Жыл бұрын

@@scottcarr3264except we already have the network and retailers in place!

@Chozenfew73

Жыл бұрын

Doubt it, they don't want people owning cars, thats the reason they are creating 15 minute cities to end travelling and to make it as awkward as possible for drivers and with this climate lie too many gullible believe it.

@studiojakubka4753

Жыл бұрын

What is wrong with existing petrol then?

So much more than classic cars. So many applications. He has thought of everything. Even basic tools, generators and considering wear on rubbers. This guy knows the direction

A new future for ICE powered vehicles. I definitely welcome it. Great video

@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270

Жыл бұрын

There is no future for ICE powered vehicles. All investment is going into EVs and battery tech. I’ve owned an EV for 4 years, yes it was more expensive than the fossil fuel equivalent but I am saving €1,500 a year (I live in France) on fuel over 20,000 km. Most of my driving is covered by the solar panels on my roof, try filling your fossil car up at home! If I didn’t have the panels I would be spending about €600 on electricity to cover that distance. Synthetic fuels will have a small part to play but the main effort in decarbonising will come from EVs.

@bonk352

Жыл бұрын

@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 No to the EV revolution

@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270

Жыл бұрын

@@bonk352 It isn’t a revolution David it’s an evolution, combustion technology is being replaced by a superior, cleaner and more efficient one. You can say ‘no’ as much as you like but that will make no difference to the outcome. In the past 4 years EV sales have gone from 3% of the new car market in Europe (2019) to 21% last year, this year will see about 1 in 3 new cars being either BEV or PHEV. ICE car sales peaked in 2018 and are never coming back. As volumes fall it will be harder for OEMs to make money out of them as scale economies are lost. The only thing holding back EV sales is battery availablity, there is no shortage of demand for EVs but look at the stats on GWh output of batteries...142 GWh in 2020, 260 GWh in 2021 and 480 GWh last year....technology is improving all the time with LFP chemistries making batteries cheaper, while energy density improves adding range and shortening charging times. Why would I want to triple my running costs and go back driving a petrol car? Why would I want to pump smelly, expensive and polluting fuel into my car?

@ivanfernyhough3851

Жыл бұрын

@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 evs my arse,you can stuff um.souless characterless throw away white goods.no thanks.

@PiOfficial

Жыл бұрын

@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270Really? My EV was more expensive to charge than my vw golf was to run on fuel.

We need companies like this in every country

@Rolatnor

Жыл бұрын

I'm from the USA, I really think this is a better option than electric "crap" cars

It's great to know that this can actually be done, I was gobsmacked! I wish all power to these wonderful people, they are our saviors from the net zero nutters. Back Nine Billy

Great video and a good news story. These fuels need to be talked about in the main stream media- I am sure most of the public would support this.

We need this as fast as possible, I want to keep my project car for as long as possible

Wow as someone who has a 20 year old BMW and 28 year old Range Rover this is “Good News Sunday”. I’m sure a lot of politicians will need to be “convinced” it’s the right option if you know what I mean but my fingers are crossed. Great video thank you, just subscribed :-)

@charliecollings2295

Жыл бұрын

Off topic but that sounds like maintenance hell 😂

@rr40v8

Жыл бұрын

​@@charliecollings2295 Hello LOL. You'd be surprised. The Range Rover is actually surprisingly reliable and good, having owned it for nearly 20 years aside from corrosion due to leaky rear boot seal and from the pollen filter covers its not really cost that much aside from petrol. I bought the E46 325ci sport on a whim and the person who owned it before me had ran it on a budget so cost a lot of money to initially get perfect, but 8 years on it too is supremely reliable but it does cost me quite a bit each year on servicing and maintenance but considering it is my daily car and 256,000 miles it's worth it as I a don't really like the new stuff🙂

@mariataif

Жыл бұрын

politicians will be convinced by taxing this new invention we as petrolheads will pay thru the nose for this new invention

@rr40v8

Жыл бұрын

@@mariataif You're right - they have us over a barrel good and proper!

@jeffmiller3150

Жыл бұрын

Don't vote for those people!!! Trump 2024!!!

Glad to hear it. I know Porsche (synthetic) and Toyota (Hydrogen) are doing something similar, investing and developing synthetic fuels which bodes well for classic and current ICE cars. As some have pointed out, some may lobby against this, mostly out of their vested interests in EV, as lets be honest, many make money from who ever pays their voices..... Lets hope this tech and others, catchup faster than EV and we can continue to use our existing cars. One would hope tax would drop too on vehicles, but as thats a money spinner, I doubt it will drop but perhaps slow down?

Great video and what a fantastic product. The Government should back this by promoting it and encouraging it’s use but I doubt whether they will, they seem hell bent on forcing everyone down the EV route in spite of all the problems.

Great idea! I'm concerned that there's been such a push to get us into EV's that this technology will be largely ignored or even deliberately avoided. The last thing that anyone wants who is in charge of convincing us that BEVs are the only future is a realistic and available alternative. I really, really hope this succeeds, the pros far outweigh the cons but I genuinely think this and other similar products will be pushed out by bigger powers and only ever be a niche. I'll be really happy to be proved wrong.

@st200ol

Жыл бұрын

Nobody is pushing anyone into buying anything they don't want to buy but for most car drivers its just about getting themselves and the family to where they are going for the cheapest cost, never mind all the green stuff, EV's do currently offer the cheapest way to go for all those local journeys, especially if you can charge for free at work or using your own solar power. I haven't watched this video to the end yet but this fuel won't be cheap £20 a gallon? Certainly more expensive than renewable electricity long-term. As they say its a no-brainer, keep the noisy gas guzzler for weekends and track-days perhaps.

@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge

Жыл бұрын

@@st200ol Right now this is much more expensive than regular petrol however the process itself is less expensive than regular fossil fuel refining. If it were as large scale as modern oil refining it would be cheaper.

@tallblokesam

Жыл бұрын

@@st200ol sorry, I don't agree with your first point. Although the public can still choose what, when and how they drive it's pretty clear which technology has been chosen as the 'one replacement' for internal combustion. WIth petrol/diesel cars ending in a few years, manufacturers had the power to research and invest in all kinds of other options but have all followed the same path - I can't fault them, it's business and you're only going to invest in something that the majority will buy into. I'm not anti-change, we need to stop burning fossils. I'm not anti-EV either. I just wish that all the options had equal coverage.

@st200ol

Жыл бұрын

@@tallblokesam What other option would you suggest? I don't believe there is any other viable option that can work. This synthetic fuel certainly won't scale up to power every car and truck on the road, perhaps we can power trucks and planes with this stuff and use electric for cars either via batteries or? To me anyway it doesn't make a lot of sense to reclaim CO2 from the atmosphere to burn it again and put it back into the atmosphere.

@MrManBuzz

Жыл бұрын

@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge But it's not going to be large scale. It never will scale up past an enthusiast level or maybe very specific and limited commercial applications. It's just not going to happen. In the future ICE cars will largely be toys exclusively for the rich and well off to play with. In a lot of ways, much like horses are now.

Absofreakinglutely fandamnedtastic! I've been saying this for years, that we should be able to make fuel without using toxic fossil fuels! Thanks for this video, because it gives me hope! ❤️❤️

@Jamessansome

Жыл бұрын

The exhaust emissions are the same as fossil fuels so no different to fossil fuels in terms of toxicity. You just don't have rigs drilling and extracting. Keeping ICE on the road indefinitely is not a good thing. It's great that classics will live on but the current econoboxes should be recycled.

@Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968

Жыл бұрын

Putting millions of people out of work gives you hope. I'm very happy for you.

@Jamessansome

Жыл бұрын

@@Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968 the world progresses, jobs and industries come and go it's just how things have always been and will be with the decrease in fossil fuel production and ICE engine expertise. Same thing happened to blacksmiths, farriers, coach builders, carpenters, steam engine production etc. No need to be dramatic, It will happen over a very long period of time.

@dungareesareforfools

Жыл бұрын

@@Jamessansome Same toxicity, maybe, but any greenhouse gases are recycled from the atmosphere and not exhumed from the ground.

@Jamessansome

Жыл бұрын

@@dungareesareforfools are you referring to CCS or DACS? Neither are efficient. CCS is capturing a percentage (around 50% so not all) of carbon directly from a plant burning fuels & energy is consumed in doing so. CCS is a way for the continuation of burning of fuels and business as usual. Or in other words if CCS didn't exist then the companies burning fuels and creating more CO2 would have to stop doing it. DACS is an inefficient way to capture CO2, it's also extremely energy intensive for the amount of CO2 captured and is only feasible if using renewable electricity. That renewable energy would be far better to be used to directly charge batteries removing ICE miles. DACS business model is to 'sell carbon credits' to dirty companies so they can carry on polluting. It's not a business model to capture CO2 but again used to allow the continuation of burning fuels. Production of eFuels from 'well to wheel' is 16% efficient. An EV 'well to wheel' is 72% efficient. That wasted efficiency cost is passed onto the consumer hence why eFuels are extremely expensive and charging your EV is comparatively cheap.

I worked at a Shell cracker plant. It has the same thing where you can take old plastic be it a lawn chair or a plastic drink bottle. It shredded then melted into buckshot size plastic to remake new plastic items. Or if you want to keep the process going on to fuels. It was in the outskirts of Pittsburgh.

Finding a fuel to run existing engine technology on has always been the answer. I look forward to the day when EVs go the same way as the Sinclair C5 😂

@stephenhargreaves381

Жыл бұрын

Likewise !

@filledwithvariousknowledge2747

Жыл бұрын

That won’t ever happen. There’s a market for ICE, EV and Hydrogen Fuel Cell!

@Brian-om2hh

11 ай бұрын

You may be waiting quite some time. There is little future in engines that use thousands of moving parts that wear or break, and require regular servicing.....

@jcfallows

4 ай бұрын

I speak from driving an EV for the last ten years! They are great to drive and save you money! I can only say look what happened to televisions after they invented flat screens in any size you want. The old tech will soon be making its way to the scrap yard at ever increasing speed!

Excellent video,hopefully my old 70’s two stroke will carry on well past my expiry date,

It seems to me these fuels being "designed" it could allow for higher octane, allowing for more power (without the destructive effects of alcohol blends) and higher MPG. Lastly as you touched on, this fuel already has ALL the infrastructure in place, and simply put, could be used over night.

@nickwinn7812

5 ай бұрын

And simply put, it's 10 times the price of your fossil fuels. Enjoy!

@jcfallows

4 ай бұрын

Can you seriously expect the majority of people to pay £5 a litre for fuel? At this point when an EV can be charged at 7.5 pence a kilowatt at home. No, like it or lump it you are going electric!

Good luck to Coryton on this. XTLs, GTLs and any dRTFO fuels are in huge demand not just in synthetic end product but also in the blends. Difficult to understate the significance of this technology.

@abellseaman4114

Жыл бұрын

NONSENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Our Liberal overlords DONT CARE what fuel we use or where we got it - their focus ONLY is on disposing of personal transport OF ALL TYPES!!!!!!! In related news - during WW2 - the German messerschmit BF 109 fighter had a larger displacement engine than the allied P 51 fighter with its Rolls Royce engine - and the P 51 could fly both FASTER AND FARTHER on its SMALLER ENGINE than the German 109 fighter.................................... and the REASON WAS SIMPLE - Germans were using ETHANOL at 85 octane and allies were using fuel made from dead dinosaurs at 95 octane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The point I make is the when horsepower and engine efficiency are considered ethanol is seen as a POOR substitute fuel for your ICE vehicle compared to traditional oil based fuel - and in addition being alcohol based - ethanol is hygroscopic and will READILY ABSORB WATER VAPOUR FROM THE AIR - which is why modern cars have fuel systems that are SO CAREFULLY SEALED so you wont end up with a gas tank half full of water with related CORROSION ISSUES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wonder if the large oil companies have already got something like this locked in a safe under guard, as it would hit their oil sales and thus their profits.

@chrisbowser

Жыл бұрын

I was about to say if this has any hope of taking off it needs to be ‘open source’ so anyone can develop this technology. Sadly like all good ideas this will be hidden behind patents and ultimately will die a death as both the government and oil companies gang up against it

@siraff4461

Жыл бұрын

Honestly its easy to make. I've even done so much at home - with bioethanol, methanol and so on. Refining it further to get to this fuel isn't all that difficult either - though it is energy intensive - as the rep alluded to when he said "so long as you have renewable electricity it doesn't matter how efficient it is". I would be amazed if the big oil companies hadn't done massive research into this and will almost certainly have a method on standby ready for when (if) they are legislated into using it. The thing is it will take people like Coryton to act as Tesla did in the ev world and give them the kick up the backside they need to start and do something about it. I'm all for it. It makes far more sense to have fuel stored in liquid form than batteries for numerous reasons from ease and speed of filling to energy density to infrastructure compatability and so on. It also offers stability since it can be stored and used as and when needed in large quantities so with solar and wind being unpredictable by their nature it offers a great chance to buffer then and make full use of everything they can offer. All without the need for massive batteries being produced in huge numbers. This stuff in plug-in hybrids would be about as clean as you could currently get but even in something like that little Austin seven its still far cleaner than making and running yet another two tonne bev.

@bentullett6068

Жыл бұрын

Porsche have been developing their synthetic fuels with Exon Mobil and Siemens. Currently testing this fuel in Porsche racing series across the globe Total Energies have of 2022 have been running all of the cars in the WEC series on a synthetic fuel made from waste gases from the alcohol industry.

@ClassicMinishorts

Жыл бұрын

@@siraff4461 I'm also all for this, the hurdle is the renewable energy, it's all well and good saying we can just use as much renewable as we like but that means you are taking the renewable supply away from other uses such as the power grid and just moving the problem! Efficiency in creation 100% matters as this is effectively going to be the price!

@siraff4461

Жыл бұрын

@@ClassicMinishorts The big difference with using it for this would be being able to use the same amount all the time. Balancing the grid is one of the largest wastes of capacity and a lot of renewables have to be turned off or capacities reduced at certain times because of this. Remember if there are lots of ev's charging thats a big load on the grid too but then they rely on renewables being available at exactly the right times - something which is almost never the case. When there is extra capacity use it to make fuel and that then also goes to offset the times when there isn't. Its also worth noting that electric cars are nowhere near as efficient in overall use as people like to make out. By the time you add in charging losses, grid losses and so on they really aren't all that much better overall unless run on renewables and there are scenarios where they are worse. This (in the right car) has the potential to make better use of the available energy.

I'm all for it. If I can use it instead of premium, which I use at the moment (my two will not run on E10), great. As it says in the film, cost and availability will be the make or break. One hope, a lot of the so-called elite people also love old cars, and most don't want an E Type or similar with an electric motor in it. It is now up to them to use their influence to ensure that this stuff happens, for the sake of all of us.

Many thanks. Liked & subbed and shared it on facebook. We are sleep walking toward disaster if we think we will be ready for affordable EV cars and a plentiful supply of charge points by 2030. I don't think 2 charge points at the local supermarket will create much of an impact. Not having a drive or a lampost with an in-built charge point, means running a long lead from the house into the road, apart from the potential trip hazard and lawsuits I'm wondering whether my lead would still be there in the morning? Being disabled I doubt if I could afford a new EV or whether I could afford a motability version, leaving me potentially a prisoner in my own home. My current ICE provides me with the ability to have some independence and some freedom. Remove that and I'm stuffed.

@RB-hx7rd

Жыл бұрын

It won't..

i was just talking about this the other day, i have two classic cars here in the U S A and we need this here and also for our current cars, fantastic idea :)

@comicrandomness3289

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure we can mass produce this stuff here in the usa. We have atlantic ocean to the east, pacific to the west and the gulf of Mexico down south for water. We need electricity which we can get through solar power and we have huge patches of desert such as California, nevada, arizona, new mexico and texas.

It's really great. HOWEVER... the outlawing is already well underway in the guise of ULEZ which isn't about new carbon emissions but about NOX/particulates [new or recycled]. Sadiq Khan will have culled a huge number of modern and future classics by the end of this year... and this will be rolled out to other urban centres around the country in the next year or two. This is a far greater threat to classics than fuel.

@froggy0162

Жыл бұрын

Excellent news. Particulates and other noxious emissions in urban area are a serious public health problem.

@H72dagger

Жыл бұрын

@@froggy0162 luckily these batteries for EV’s come with no environmental or exploitative cost then really isn’t it….oh wait.

@froggy0162

Жыл бұрын

@@H72dagger Less impact over the life of the product than an ICE car.! And batteries are becoming cobalt and other rare earth metal free - BYD and CATL batteries for example.

@froggy0162

Жыл бұрын

@@H72dagger Also, Whatsaboutism is a common logical fallacy. Just saying ;)

This is such a good example of when new technique solves future problems. We have such treasures in old restored vehicles all over the world. To be able to run these to a reasonable cost without the insane shaming we see today would be wonderful. This is certainly a thing I will follow closely.

@filledwithvariousknowledge2747

Жыл бұрын

I’m quite left leaning so hearing stuff like this catches my attention especially if it’s not such a radical idea as I avoid going radical

What an exciting project, the sort of thing I could go to work for 👏

I have been using synthetic fuel in motorsaws for many years. It's good. Holds its octane even after storage. Been using it in trials motorcycles with fibreglass fuel tanks. No ethanol. No water. No dissolving resins.

Great concept. Let's hope this can become a reality so that it can keep the more affordable internal combustion engined vehicles on the road. The sad reality is that we are coming closer and closer everyday to losing that and are having our hands forced into a solution "EV ownership" that most people don't want and cannot afford.

This is superb if this becomes available i would happily fill my car with it i wish the company all the best they are doing great work .

@Brian-om2hh

11 ай бұрын

Would you? Even at £20 a gallon?

I have a close friend working as a development engineer at Volvo ,As I ran my 3L 24V Vauxhall on E-85 he told me the ring lands would wear down , they had discovered those fare far better if hard anodized....moreover plants fare far better in an atmosphere with higher CO2 they need decidedly less water in such an atmosphere , which will lead to deserts shrinking and other advantages mostly to agriculture.

I have zero interest in EVs so I am interested in this. I would need to know more before I would consider putting it in my car though... Does it increase wear of the engine? How many cars have used it exclusively for 10k miles and shown no unusual wear?

@Matu007

Жыл бұрын

"Neste MY Renewable Diesel" has been sold in Estonia for years now and my dad has been pumping it to his 2020 diesel engine car, he says that it seems to be cleaner than the usual diesel and hasn't had any problems. I own a petrol car, we don't get renewable petrol here, yet.

I am not being negative about EV but they are not practical and fall into the same trap as fossil fuels you have to dig in the ground ,plus people in droves are ditching their EV for combustion as the infrastructure in the UK is so poor ,that doing long journeys is practically impossible with out long wait times ,this synthetic fuel is a perfect transition fuel while EV infrastructure becomes more obtainable ,I love my little car and if I have to use synthetic fuel to drive it I would be more than happy ,great video once again 👍

@HairyCheese

Жыл бұрын

Apologies if I upset you, but it's not all digging. There are some concerns with different lithium retrieval techniques. But once it's out and in an EV battery, after 25+ years we can recycle the materials. We can't do that with petrol or synthetic fuel. I've driven from Kent to Wales and back, also Kent to Edinburgh in my EV over 7 years. My little Leaf drives 500 miles every alternative weekend. I never wait for a charger as I just continue to a different one on a journey. We had 10,000 EV charging locations (multi connector) in 2019. 21,000 at the end of 2022. At the end of January 2023, there were 37851 electric vehicle charging points across the UK, across 22355 charging locations. This represents a 31% increase in the total number of charging devices since January 2022. If you join, they will build more. They add 800+ every month. Synthetic fuel is a huge contributor to CO2, SOx and NOx between production and tail pipe emissions. Also it's extremely expensive to produce and requires extensive fossil fuel use. It's alot easier to run electric cables and increase load then to create logistics to deploy new fuels. I expect kits will become commonplace for 3rd parties to electrify any car at a reasonable price. At the moment it's very expensive, but the drive train and batteries will outlive the car.

I'm intrigued by this....maybe I should try it out... my friend has a 2008 polo which I pay for all of its maintenance by Co-op... ever since the E10 introduction I've opted for Shell V-Power fuel... yeah....bit more expensive but in the long run, the car can sit for a couple of weeks at a time....my friend has a current driving license and I'm disabled and my disabled money and my brain would like to keep an older vehicle on the road regardless!... I don't want to be tracked by nefarious entities everywhere I go...this iPad stays indoors at another friend's and I don't have a smart phone...even my dumb phone stays indoors! Anyhow...years ago I had a Mitsubishi Pajero diesel 2.8 SWB...it's rated mpg was 35... with a few tweaks...one being a 10% veggie oil in the tank...keeping the side mirrors folded in and running Shell V-Power diesel, a good polish with Auto-Glym = better performance and acceleration, smoother running and getting over 40 mpg (43 max) ... great for me... that 10% veggie oil mix got me zero emissions at every mot! ... What a Discovery on MOT emissions standards!

@dantheman1337

Жыл бұрын

hiya, if you want a car to last forever, then have a look at an Audi A2. Like the polo except the body is made of aluminium and so will not rust.

@Jonny_The_Organism

Жыл бұрын

@@dantheman1337 I'd rather go back to my old off reader go anywhere vehicles...no gadgets...just go everywhere as a ghost really...seems the best way to go.... Audi A2's just wouldn't cut it me thinks!

Given i hate Electric vehicles or atleast their pushing them... i want to keep my Diesel van... this sounds like a responsible alternative! Im in.

What a great uplifting video in light of the car enthusiast, a new fuel for the combustion engine.

One thing keeps popping up in my head; If there is any make of car that is bought for it engine (sound) it is Porsche. A Porsche with an electric powerplant isn't a Porsche anymore. Porsche should get heavily involved into this synthetic fuel. That would get some serious muscle into the whole discussion. Not to mention the whole food/faming industry. Absolutely love this vid. Well done!!

@chrismanns17

Жыл бұрын

Porsche are already heavily involved in synthetic fuel development. The Porsche super cup series has been running at least a synth/petrol mixed fuel the last couple of seasons already

@Mark_van_Leeuwenstijn

Жыл бұрын

@@chrismanns17 Ah see I did not know this. Saw a docu on Porsche a while back and there was no mention of this. They sais they were going to stick with combustion for the next roughly ten years or so. Oh I know conventional cars aren't perfect. But I love them to bits. Its the way we treat out planet in whole. Electrification is not the answer. Stop destroying forests and nature. At least more people get into the know, and this fuel is a great step in the right direction. Anyway, thanks for the info. Nice to know👍

@jeffmiller3150

Жыл бұрын

Porsche has a E Fuel plant operating in Chile right now.

Brilliant video... Unfortunately our Governments are so blinkered and seem to be determined to follow the EV route weather it works or fails? while new vehicle manufacturers are being forced to build only EV`s to survive into the future so the engine technology that would have continued is mostly dead..

@helipeek2736

Жыл бұрын

To the point you have to wonder who in “Government” is benefiting from this headlong rush to the EV Nirvana?

@burntnougat5341

Жыл бұрын

@@helipeek2736 those who have shady financial connections to the vc firms who push the ev and esg nonsense

@Andrew-tr5zg

Жыл бұрын

They are concentrating on banning the sale of new ICE cars by 2030 (Another hair brained idea), not existing ICE cars or fuel, they will need to come out and say what their plan is for existing cars/classic cars and the huge industry it supports, because if they turn round and say well we will ban those as well, there'll be uproar. They haven't said much if anything about existing cars, and instead of going down the unworkable route of banning yet more things, they can at least embrace projects like this to keep the classics industry going.

This is great news I’m in the forestry industry and I also love old cars so thumbs up from me 👍🏻

Yes, I am all for this. My only vehicle at the moment is my 2001 Yaris, which drives lovely. I make NO APOLOGY for saying I LOVE THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE!!!

Yeah, still needs work and development into lowering production costs cause as of right now this stuff works out at about £10 a litre I mean that's a start, but it's still a long way off from an affordable alternative

@davidrichardson8483

Жыл бұрын

Oh crikey, it's nowhere near that much. Price available soon.

@andrewfingerjammer3358

Жыл бұрын

I've seen 5 pound a litre

Very interesting development and well presented. Something I was not aware of but will look forward to more progress.

This is great ! and it is the best way to store energy from renewable sources. To conserve all the energy generated from the sun and wind, which are so erratic because batteries suck at it.

Brilliant news, can't wait to give it a try ☺️

Harrys garage (Harry Metcalfe of Evo magazine) has also run an interesting KZread vid on the same fuel. Great news going forward for ICE, but at the moment, the cost was advised as being significantly more than petrol. For low mileage, perhaps not an issue, but deep pockets required for normal driving. Hopefully that would come down over time though if wide scale consumer purchasing took off.

I routinely used synthetic gasoline at Chrysler engineering from 69 on. We used it for precision engine testing in the development labs. I often took a Qt. Out each day to add to my Harley for a smooth ride home.

I saw synthetic race fuel in operation on a friends’ Classic Moto Guzzi racer. The exhaust was so clean, I did a double-take.

This really does seem to be the future if only the government would put just a part of what they are putting into EVs into this type of renewable. I love my car and do not want to be told what type I can drive, the quicker this fuel gets out to the general public the better.👍

This sounds great, over here across the pond there have been issues with EVs and batteries catching fire. and some problems with charging EVs and infrastructures in Oklahoma and Colorado. they already experienced blackouts in the summer. when people were using their air conditioning and charging their EVs. and there isn't that many EVs on the road yet. so there's still a lot to do before EVs will become totally viable. making this alternative necessary, and myself I really like my ICE vehicles. and this might make it possible for me keep my ICE vehicles for a while longer. however I'm curious are there people in America working on this technology?

@filledwithvariousknowledge2747

Жыл бұрын

@Lee Francis A lot of EV’s planned for sale to there aim to offer 300 miles at least because of range anxiety concerns. Comparisons will also appear soon on which EV’s batteries are slower to wear and by now there should be about electricity consumption rate (much like the miles per gallon comparisons)

I would like to see a dyno test between the two fuels.

Fantastic informative video. Thank you! 👍

Excellent video. Let's hope its achievable

Get a pump in my local petrol station forecourt up here in NE Scotland and I’ll start using it for my Manta GT/E , exactly what we need to keep our classics running plus do our bit for the environment when driving.

I think there's a place for BEVs, synthetic fuels and hydrogen. The Wankel engine seems to be very well suited to running on hydrogen without the problems it had on petrol.

@charliecollings2295

Жыл бұрын

I think people are too focused on a singular transportation fuel/power source. It will be beneficial for everyone and their needs to have a diverse range power sources.

@ThomasDoubting5

Жыл бұрын

@@charliecollings2295 i agree , there's always a fixation on standardisation on literally everything.

@charliecollings2295

Жыл бұрын

@@ThomasDoubting5 the whole full focus on EVs is stunting innovation in other alternatives, especially with government carrot and stick incentives.

@timothykeith1367

Жыл бұрын

@@charliecollings2295 Yes, a multiplicity of energy sources

@HairyCheese

Жыл бұрын

Hydrogen has a massive problem with storage for use. Normally we produce it and use it onsite, mainly by burning fossil fuels. It belittles steel and does not want to travel. The Japanese are fixed with it hoping to produce red hydrogen (nuclear) due to their geographic constraints to produce renewable energy.

Great work . should be appreciated. Synthetic fuel is a successful solution for sure. This can be used for any vehicle. No matter what anyone says, This is the future. Many people love the internal combustion engines. IC engines are reliable , have familiar technology, Using synthetic fuel for IC engine provides environmental benefits. Politicians know nothing about science. So they say ev is the future. Why buy EV vehicles and create complex problems when there are simple solutions like synthetic fuel? EV vehicles are not successful in many applications. EVs impact the environment in many ways during production and use.

These people are unsung heroes of the combustion engine generation, they've proven we can continue to live with our cars as is and that it doesn't need to be solely EV's, but we know that these big oil companies and shareholders in these companies who sit in parliament and other positions of power don't want this, because of the hit to their bank balances, these companies should be leading the market in this type of research but they don't want to, they are just creating scaremongering amongst us all, thanks for showing everyone the future that should be and what the government and others stealing from us! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

I'd love to give it a go being a gardener and use petrol machines all the time

@bentullett6068

Жыл бұрын

Already something out there for garden machinery that is a cleaner burning fuel its known as alkalyte fuel. Can be purchased from most dealerships who sell ASPEN fuels or other equivalents made by Stihl or Husqvarna. Most dealerships will now use this fuel when servicing people's machinery.

@Brian-om2hh

11 ай бұрын

Well you can. Aspen synthetic petrol has been available in Britain for decades. It costs around £30 per gallon.....

Thx for this. Is not the first video I’ve seen on synthetic fuel, but this one is relevant to the UK. There are a couple of outstanding questions. 1. Cost? You mention it but specific estimates are avoided. Some more info will be great. 2. Manufacturing capacity? How much can be made? There needs to be enough for everyone’s needs or the concept won’t be feasible. We saw nothing but a couple of simplified diagrams, it would be great to see the process directly. Is the process scalable and are there sufficient resources to make this product accessible to everyone who wants it at a reasonable cost?

@davidparker7920

Жыл бұрын

e-fuels are a scam and will never be mainstream. There is simply insufficient feedstock to replace fossil fuels and even as a specialist, niche fuel to keep classic cars going you are talking about £30 to £40 a gallon. Just go electric and get this stinky, toxic shit off our roads and lets clean up our air.

I’m impressed let’s hope we see and here about this lots more.

This does really start to ease my worries about owning a classic . I want a few classics and it's great to know there are solutions that can keep the heritage of cars going. Thankyou !!!

Think you may be surprised when you see the price. It won’t come down much in volume either because physics…

Great video! Very insightful and seems like a really good way of producing fuel which is greener than what we currently have, and without the need to spend more Co2 making new electric cars. The only stumbling block I envisage is the push to reduce particulates and air pollution in cities as this doesn’t really achieve that. Not being negative, it just seems to be a real hot topic at the moment!

Sounds good. Non of my mini fleet of classics, (ranging from a 1949 Renault 760, to a 1989 Citroen XM, and recently acquired Citroen SM,) will ever get a sniff of E10. It has to be "super unleaded for them all, and I'm not even so keen on that. If this is a fuel we can use safely in them then I'm all for it. LG.

Brilliant idea! 💚🌻

I wish I still had my 820 Vitesse to put it in. How I envy you.. I can't see electric vehicles being a realistic proposition for people in my sector of society, so I really hope that this takes off.

I know these fuels are being tested extensively in motorsport events currently as Porsche have been trialling their fuel in all of their Carrera Cup and Cayman Islands Cup series.

@andrewdalziel4006

Жыл бұрын

The World Rally Championship is using these fuels too.

@VolkerHett

Жыл бұрын

Synthetic fuel was one of the reasons the Messerschmidt BF109 broke every speed record in the early 1930s. Fischer-Tropsch synthesis was in use in the GDR way into the 1970s and Qatar uses it today to make almost all of its fuel. Fossil fuels are cheaper. A lot cheaper!

@bonk352

Жыл бұрын

EV fanatics should now have no room to talk as there are compatible synthetic fuels available. A sensible future is not gunning for a 100% ev revolution and ramming ev advertisment down our throats at every given opportunity but rather a mix including combustible engines. Even hybrid technology is more sensible than relying on 100% electrification and kowtowing to a massive upheaval and bother in building colossal ev charging points and stations worldwide and mindlessly tapping into the main electric supply.

@pgkr67

10 ай бұрын

Yes and F1 and Motogp will go in that direction from 25 and 26 with some of the big names behind it...

Really fascinating thank you for sharing

Fantastic, but will it really ever come to be that’s up to us people start shouting from the roof tops🎉❤❤❤❤❤

I heard Mobil have been working on it and Porsche run their heritage fleet on it

@bentullett6068

Жыл бұрын

And the racing cars in the Porsche Supercup, Carrera Cup and the Cayman Islands Cup are also running on this fuel

Great video , I used v power and found no benefit to it my car was much happier with 99 Ron from the local supermarket as for synthetic fuel the world rally cars were using this last year to test and all ran like normal pump gas , this the future 👍

Subbed excellent stuff. Thankyou

This is truly amazing!

I think this is a great idea and would gladly pay a few quid extra to fill the car with a sustainable fuel. Still going to be cheaper than buying a Tesla or an electric vehicle conversion and I still get to hear Bussso V6 sounds. Very interesting video 👍

@drwhowho

Жыл бұрын

If u can't afford a tesla....how does that rule out cheaper EVs? Sounds? Dear lord.

@tonythewelshtrucker

Жыл бұрын

@@drwhowho I'd consider an electric conversion, and it's not a case of not being able to afford it, it's not being stupid enough to pay way over the odds for a car that will no doubt need a full rebuild in a few years to replace tired battery packs. Also, I really don't fancy joining the queue of cars waiting for the 5 "quick" chargers in Reading services, or any other services for that matter, to get a 1 hour fast charge. It can't be the answer in my eyes. Fair play to the powers that be getting so many people to take the bait just before cracking up electricity costs though!

@froggy0162

Жыл бұрын

@@tonythewelshtrucker Battery packs last the life of the car, they don’t wear out.

@froggy0162

Жыл бұрын

It’s going to be a lot more than a “few extra quid”! This synthetic fuel will be very expensive. It will be toys only, not regular use.

@yasi4877

Жыл бұрын

@@froggy0162 Froggy you have too much to say.

They ought to be blending this stuff with fossil petrol right now, in place of the ethanol. It's better for the environment and for fuel systems.

Loved this Video chris 👏

Electrifying our whole transport will never be feasible within the century. This is an excellent idea and I hope it won't be ridiculously expensive...

Yeah synthetic fuel is getting a lot of press lately but all that needs to be pondered is, is production scalable? In 2021 America consumed 19.8 million barrels of oil PER DAY. Most of which was used to make gasoline, diesel and jet fuel. And, will the price per gallon be realistically affordable? Those are tall expectations.

Given the government’s hugely optimistic net zero target and the negligible amount of real charging infrastructure for the millions of electric vehicles projected to be on our roads soon and the soaring cost of electricity I’m still skeptical that batteries are THE way forward .

@Brian-om2hh

11 ай бұрын

So the cost of petrol and diesel hasn't ever "soared" then?

@paulkopp3634

11 ай бұрын

@@Brian-om2hh Yes they have but only ever as a result of politics not of actual supply issues .

Fantastic presentation, should be on the Beeb. I am in the very complicated process of starting a Classic Car Chauffeur service in my home town of Bordeaux in France. I will be using a 6.75 liter Bentley and I need an anti pollution policy for my mission statement. This is it. It seems that France, I would argue is ahead of the game here as my monster car is Crit Air exempt but this developing situation with sustainable fuel is a massive, probably an answer too, to the issue if vehicle emissions. I’m just going to see if I can set up an account with Coryton!!!!!! Well done guys, - a great show!!!!

You need to work with the racing community and run a series using this new fuel. !!!! This will lead to TV exposure which will spread the interest to the population at large .

Nothing compares with the gasoline capacity to pack energy. An easy to transport and refuel, too.

@Brian-om2hh

11 ай бұрын

There's just the problem of what we do once oil runs dry........

The problem with videos on this subject is nobody talks about the elephant in the room - the oil producing countries who financially rule the world and governments will obviously not allow synthetic fuel to flourish. Just like they're not bothered about the miniscule uptake of electric vehicles. Petrol and diesel will be around for a lot longer than the readers of this comment!

This is great. When all the manufacturers have been forced to stop making cars with i.c. engines, we can rely on people like this and the growing restoration industry to keep "proper" vehicles on the road well into the future

@Brian-om2hh

11 ай бұрын

At what cost? You can buy Aspen synthetic petrol in Britain now. It's been available for decades, and costs around £30 per gallon......

The infuriating thing with all this is (from the outside looking in), is if the government and governments around the world actually pushed harder on this, it would probably accelerate the development and fast forward production towards the retail market. Possibly even overtaking the BEV growth as the infrastructure is already in place.

I suspect this will only ever be an expensive, niche product. Something you can use to fuel up your old classic a few times a year, or something for the track. I doubt there's enough potential feedstock to make it cheap and plentiful.

@spice3767

Жыл бұрын

F1 is going synthetic fuel, this will obviously give it enormous exposure

@Brian-om2hh

11 ай бұрын

@@spice3767 F1 racing is hideously costly. As will be synthetic fuels.....

This is such and exciting area. Especially given the environmental cost of producing a battery the cost of replacing a battery. Oh and the fact the grid already can't cope.

@bobmarshall3700

Жыл бұрын

"Grid can't cope"! You are just repeating bullshit mate! That's just another lie created by the power companies in order to limit solar proliferation and it's supported by the fossil fuel industry who want to use coal and gas to generate electricity and petrol in your car!

@Therealslimstig

Жыл бұрын

@@bobmarshall3700 take it you're a few short of 100IQ. I worked at a power company and saw the controls first hand. They were close to limit even a few years ago let alone now. And even more so since cutting back coal and gas generation. 🙈 Solar in this country isn't so great in the winter is it or even the summer a lot of the hours.

Simply brilliant vid. ❤

Yessss 🙌🏻 Finally a clever and cleaner petrol ⛽️ that doesn’t damage your cherished vehicle engine! As a chemical engineer I understand everything about the technology they use to make it and I was dreaming about such type of petrol for years now! And it really could’ve been done much earlier if there wouldn’t be idiotic lobby for and billions of subsidies for E10 fuels, engines that can tolerate them and, of course, all this new environment damaging “let’s electrify everything” baloney for which we don’t have any decent charge storing tech and still excavating one of the rarest earth metals (Li). Let’s just hope these brilliant engineers will be able to pump their synthetic fuel technology up to mass production level with no obstacles from politicians! As for us - classic car enthusiasts - we are ready!

It really is a shame what happened to rover cars I loved them .

As far as I have researched synthetic fuels are either made at smaller volumes or it will cost around £9.00 per litre. Obviously, I hope that it can be cheaper as I support its use in Classic Cars.

@mikadavies660

Жыл бұрын

@Lee Francis Research it more.... Even see the Autotrader look at synthetic fuels. Simple baseline, we need to cut back on burning stuff. No matter what we do to heat our houses, move our trucks or cars. Every person on the planet understands that cigarettes are not good for the person. Why is burning shit good for the planet?

@Brian-om2hh

11 ай бұрын

Aspen synthetic petrol has been on sale in the UK for decades, and costs around £30 per gallon.....

Just caught up with this video, reading comments I've come to the conclusion and agree it shouldn't be either/or, it should and can be both as it is more or less now. Great video will be supporting the company with my cars from now on. Long live ICE and EV both are great to drive. Thank you for the great videos keep them coming.

Thank you

It’s not about the fuel,it’s about getting you off the road.

@azi9_ity

Жыл бұрын

But why?

@lifewithherbthedog6509

Жыл бұрын

@@azi9_ity use your brain.

@azi9_ity

Жыл бұрын

@@lifewithherbthedog6509 i mean, I'm asking because I don't know. I've heard of conspiracies floating around surrounding the EV agenda but I've never had the chance to be enlightened on them. Why do they want to take us off the road? "To control us" is literally one of the most vague explanations one can spit out of their mouth and is also an unintelligent response. How will pushing ICE into obsolescence and shoving EVs into our face get us off the road and why?

Loving this news about alternative synthetic fuel technology. EV's are just not practical for me. I'm disabled my workplace has no charging facilities and is in the middle of nowhere so I need the guarantee that I'll be able to get there and back on one charge. There is nowhere for me to install a charger at my home and on street charging is impossible because I have a Zebra crossing in front of my house!

@Brian-om2hh

11 ай бұрын

Unless you drive around 100 miles or so to work, there are several EV's which could cover your commute. Your workplace surely must have electricity, unless it's a cave.....

What an excellent video !! . . .

Good luck to the company marketing it! The ability to run classic vehicles is evidently worthwhile in the longer term, along with heritage railway rolling stock of one sort or another, rather than being in static museums. Worth noting that the use of “Biomass” agricultural, or domestic by-products is quite well established, albeit not for producing fuel for petrol engines. E.g. the use of pelleted straw for heating boilers in certain industries (e.g. Ramsbury Brewery), or anaerobic digestion of sewage in water treatment/sewage processing (Thames Water). No doubt many more examples of that.

The key questions that never got answered in this lengthy feature are: A) how much is it? B) where is it sold? Until then, it’s just a hypothetical hope on the horizon for classic car owners

@MikesMercsandothercars

Жыл бұрын

I agree - If you find the answers, can you let me know. Mike

@Jimmyjack1982

Жыл бұрын

And c. Why didn’t they show anyone actually pumping it? None pulled the trigger. I feel a little sceptical.

@ledsalesoz

Жыл бұрын

It's insanely expensive. Taking renewable electricity to create e-fuels and then burning it in engines which have typically 25% efficiency is just nuts. You end up needing around 10 times the electricity than if you just charged an EV instead to go the same distance. E-fuels are just another way to keep the uneducated dependent on large fuel corporations, not to mention the high maintenance costs of ICE engines. With an EV you can make your own fuel yourself and you can charge from any electric source, only BEVs are energy source agnostic while remaining efficient. The only people who think ICE running on e-fuels are a good idea are those with vested interests and those who have never driven an EV...

@MikesMercsandothercars

Жыл бұрын

@@ledsalesoz Yes, I imagine synthetic fuel is insanely expensive but there again, many products are when they are first produced. I imagine with enough demand, prices will come down just like solar panels for example. Many people (myself included) don't view a car as merely an object to get from A to B. It is a piece of history with a unique feel, smell and character. Cruising round country lanes in a Tesla Model 3 just isn't the same as doing it in a classic convertible Mercedes. If it costs me 10 times more to drive my car then so be it - this is how I choose to spend my money. The people I have met who are involved in the creation of synthetic fuels don't come across an uneducated. In fact, quite the opposite. At present, most synthetic fuels are created by small independents run by highly skilled chemical engineers. Using synthetic fuel in an engine doesn't require any additional maintenance - its a direct replacement and indeed you can mix petrol and synthetic fuel together in a fuel tank. I think synthetic fuel is a great idea, and I don't have any vested interest and I have driven an EV. Now.....of course you are overlooking the elephant in the room. 1. The vast majority of EV's are charged by electricity which comes from fossil fuels. 2. It is as efficient to burn fossil fuels directly in a combustion engine as it is to create electricity via a turbine and then transport that electricity over power lines. 3. It's not accurate to say that "With an EV you can charge from any electric source" In certain States in USA there are already restrictions on when you can charge your EV due to the strain on the grid. 4. As for making your own electricity (presumably from solar??)...this may work fine if you live live in a sunny country but you would struggle to charge your EV in winter in much of Europe. Mike

18 years ago I met an inventor who could turn used platci back into fuel, and the space needed for the facility is the size of a small B&Q the tech has never seen the light of of day beyond the test site and one install. We are not serious about using sustainable fuels.

@bikeman123

Жыл бұрын

Platci?

@bentullett6068

Жыл бұрын

I guess you meant plastic. The aviation industry are now doing this converting non recyclable plastic into aviation fuel idea. Can also convert waste plastics into hydrogen by heating it up and introducing a plastic eating microbe into the mix (this is a actual experiment that has been trialled in a desert location)

Love the idea

Great video. Here`s a thought. They take carbon from the environment, turn into energy and emit carbon dioxide.....and so do horses...