If you're interested I've added some more stuff to my list of moving sales, as I keep organizing and deciding what I don't absolutely need to haul along. docs.google.com/document/d/1tjRZ8oPmYTN9zjZVQecHjh8GezMYni2_5tvucE0f2as

@kingkuroneko7253

5 жыл бұрын

Oh......I thought skallagrim had turn black for a sec 😂😂🤣🤣😏

@MajaSatoru

5 жыл бұрын

Skallagrim Can you review the saskue Grass cutter sword from amazon like $30

@ynj88

5 жыл бұрын

@slartibartfast85 how dare thou attempt to correct our lord and saviour

@demammoet

5 жыл бұрын

@Skallagrim OHh, you pinned your own comment huh Skall, guess you're more important than us :(( !!! (This should be read in all caps).

@oddish2253

5 жыл бұрын

Skallagrim: Also Like and Subscribe if not so already, or else. Just kidding that's for comedic purposes. All Jokes aside we'll stab you with the pointy end if you don't.

THIS is what I find interesting at the moment. Comparisons of different techniques and designs. Not the which was better but the WHY the swords were made the way they were.

@antoinecloutier4450

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thought! No weapon design exists in a vacuum. To understand its design is to understand its techniques and historical context, for efficiency never was out of thought to craftsmen.

@SuperOtter13

5 жыл бұрын

I couldnt agree more

@i_love_crpg

5 жыл бұрын

Juan Pablo Munoz yeah and the problem is when you get HEMA elitists who say “oh longsword beats everything”

@somethingsomethingsomethingdar

5 жыл бұрын

@@i_love_crpg I am curious as to why after the longsword people started gravitating towards rapiers. It makes sense for unarmored dueling but for wartime I would have thought that the longsword would have been the sidearm of choice. Or maybe a mace since armor was so much more prevalent by this time.

@darrianweathington1923

5 жыл бұрын

ok but... ... why is the katana clearly the superior weapon?

It's not a hand guard. It's a Han guard. ....I'll see myself out.

@JohnDoe-qu2dr

4 жыл бұрын

LMAO

@AOTLTng

4 жыл бұрын

*Opens the door behind you.* please sir. You may

@taurigirl

4 жыл бұрын

HA HA!

@MightyElo

4 жыл бұрын

Booooo!!! (Throws pommel)

@sonicalex2536

4 жыл бұрын

Boo.... your comedy is slightly below average.... boo.

The gentleman with the Han sword is absolutely correct. Chinese martial weapons are generally designed with hip and leg driven power in mind. Chinese martial arts train to fight from the legs and hips.

@konstellashon1364

4 жыл бұрын

so much stance work at my wushu school 😀

@jaroslavb.korinek7285

4 жыл бұрын

"WIDER!" Ooooh, I've heard that SO many times...

@rayrayli5901

4 жыл бұрын

Sword for Chinese is for generals and scholars or hero’s. Because it doesn’t really have advantage on battle field. But it is expensive so it can represent the level of identity.One blade like Dao is more useful, and easy handle.

@user-rh2pv2kc5g

4 жыл бұрын

no .it is use for Calvary fight with the huns in the north ....you do not have 1 vs 1 senario like the in the west.usually it is 5000 Calvary vs another 5000 .or 10000 vs 10000 or 10000 calvary plunder the rent and livestock of the huns...it is a light weapon because the speed of the horse is quite significant

@stephenshw2262

4 жыл бұрын

@@rayrayli5901 The jian was actually used to kill defecting soldiers. Much like how officers in modern day armies uses the pistol to kill defecting soldiers instead of enemies.

chinese swords and polearms are seriously underrated in comparison to stuff like katanas

@quirkyusername1093

5 жыл бұрын

Well... that's because katanas has been driven into the mud by its fanboys.

@pprot1337

5 жыл бұрын

@@quirkyusername1093 exactly

@KageNoTenshi

4 жыл бұрын

Dimtri Gabriel because historically the Chinese had lots of trouble with Japanese pirates so in general, one would think the Chinese were not able to handle the Japanese

@pprot1337

4 жыл бұрын

@@KageNoTenshi ...how does this factor in a discussion about popularity of their respective weapons? What does it have to do with handling Japanese in fights and all that?

@KageNoTenshi

4 жыл бұрын

Dimtri Gabriel if the French always lost to the English, I am not saying they did, then people would think the French weapons are weaker than the English ones, same idea

Correct me if I'm wrong but It really shows that you two had fun making this video. It felt natural, good chemistry, it basically was just a joy to watch! Hope I'm right :)

@Skallagrim

5 жыл бұрын

You are indeed right. :)

@direct2397

5 жыл бұрын

The comment i was looking for :)

@Crytica.

5 жыл бұрын

@@Skallagrim Wish you and Swordsage all the best of luck :) hoping for more fun content like this!

@Semiotichazey

4 жыл бұрын

@@Skallagrim Awesome, I expect that will lead to future collaborations...

@opticandersonopticanderson3364

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, agreed. The two should make a baby, and name him killa.

Nice to see Swordsage being in the spotlight and with good production values,he is really one of the missing link in the historical weapons and martial arts group of youtube,that could really use some popularity. Other than him i can only say Da'Mon Stith.

@facina3390

5 жыл бұрын

Junichiro Yamashita No kidding. I’ve always relied on Skal, Easton, Shad, and Thrand. Glad to see another another intelligent weapons channel.

@madmattgaming3951

5 жыл бұрын

He's been doing it for so long too, and he's very well spoken, he just needs better equipment and a good editor to make his videos more appealing.

@secutorprimus

5 жыл бұрын

He and Da'Mon def need more attention

@withheldrathernotsay3324

5 жыл бұрын

I think I’ll go watch he’s stuff

@xlaythe

5 жыл бұрын

does he cover middle eastern stuff at all? There's a missing link there

Chinese people: we need a bigger sword Blacksmith: say no more fam *comes out with a scaled up version of the same sword

@Gutraidh

4 жыл бұрын

Wait till you see the Japanese one its all basically just different sizes of course there are such nuances like balance and stuff affecting its purpose but if we talk about appearances...

@camrendavis6650

4 жыл бұрын

@@Gutraidh those things are unwieldy as hell

@mintyfresh4855

4 жыл бұрын

@@Gutraidh The shuangshou jian was developed after the nodachi and is longer than a nodachi. When the Japanese pirates invaded all over Asia and eventually the 1592 Invasion of Joseon, the Chinese and Korean militaries realized that the nodachi decimated their swordsmen due to its length. So both countries decided to one up the nodachi and made them bigger than the nodachi which is the Chinese shuangshou jian and the Korean Ssangsoodo. Nodachi has a blade length about 45-59 inches average is around 55 in~whereas the shuangshou jian is about 63 inches and the Ssangsoodo as long as 72 inches. Chinese literature and history both ascribe its adoption as a weapon on the Asian mainland to General Qi Ji-guang (1628-1687) who is said to have taken pirate prisoners -Wokou- during his campaigns in Southern China, wrote about the sword in his manual - Lian Bing Shi Ji - and recommended its use as part of the defense along China's northern border. Since General Qi's training manual Jin Xiao Shin Shu was used in the revamping the Korean Military it followed that this weapon came highly recommended. Nor did the Koreans overlook that oversized swords had been used by Japanese soldiers during the recent conflict as well as during their own experiences with the Wakou. Intended by General Qi to be carried into combat on wagons or by individuals who drew each other's weapon, the Ssangsoodo measured an overall length of 6 feet, two feet of which were to be the grip and another 2 feet forward of the handle to be sheathed in brass or copper.

@camrendavis6650

4 жыл бұрын

@@mintyfresh4855 I fucking love General Qi. The Ming Dynasty is my favorite Dynasty to research because of the Imjin war and the Wokou raids on the coastal provinces. A lot of innovations came from those battles, one of my favorites being all the unique weapons and formations that went with them. The Miaodao and use of saber and shield combined with the type of armor they wore. Speaking of armor, mid to late Ming Chinese armor is so cool looking. The brigandine torso protection that went down to the knees, sometimes scale armor for higher ranked officers. The large conical helm with the armored aventail, the segmented metal plates that went from the shoulders to the knuckles. The thick leather boots, I even heard that some armored harnesses came with bronze masks in the form of mean looking faces. But they were only worn and parades or military marching displays, not in actuality combat. I'm willing to bet they were more comfortable, and practical for combat than the heavy armor being used by the samurai and Wokou. I actually hear that in China they have a Renaissance faire that is themed off of the Ming Dynasties (among other dynasties I'm sure). They even have reenactment events where they wear actual Ming Armor and perform formations. I would love to go to one.

@ZhangLee.

4 жыл бұрын

@@mintyfresh4855 "The shuangshou jian" is mean two hand sword is was a type of sword not a name had exist in china history thousand year and not developed from nodachi , miao dao is develop from counter nodachi ( cause nodachi longer then standard jian in ming dynasty sword ) use by pirates , read more pls zanbato was developed from 斬馬刀 (zhanmadao) still use till late ming dynasty and nodachi was developed from zanbato

As a Chinese，I have to say that the name "剑Jian" once represented the Chinese wood stick，which can imitate any weapon in daily training. A great general from Ming Dynasty, Yu Dayou, wrote a book to record the using method of stick just named 《剑经注解 Jian Jing Zhu Jie》,which means The analysis of using Jian. Then General Yu trained the elite infantry using stick by the book first，but switched the stick to MiaoDao for infantry using in battlefield of expelling Japanese pirates. And Ming army successfully beats the ronin army，who used katana. Later，the real Jian using method was reserved in Chinese army，and the stick method was teached to the monk in Shaolin Temple by General Yu. As we can see，one of the advantage of real Chinese martial art is using weapon flexibly. In the other words，Chinese can refer to using weapon from other weapon，not just train the conservative weapon method to acme. I recommend the movie 倭寇的踪迹“The Sword Identity”，which could have poor special effect，but contains the philosophy of Chinese martial art. Forgive my poor English.

@mattbugg4568

4 жыл бұрын

Yawara is stick and sword they were kinda interchangeable about 20 years ago, double sticks would be double swords, knives, longer sticks would be swords, even longer staves would be spears, the training was translatable. Now most people think that there was specific to each but in the past it was more about being well rounded and able to translate parts.

@endlessranger2959

4 жыл бұрын

matt bugg Correct！

@SmokeGrinder

4 жыл бұрын

Your english is better than a significant percentage of the population of the US . Thanks for the movie recommendation.

@ianwang5242

4 жыл бұрын

I don’t think that movie is a coreect tactics to use a miaodao，that sword is also a fabricate thing. I much more suggest to just search miaodao video in KZread and also u can use these link here：b23.tv/av56411649 （If u can understand Chinese） b23.tv/av23042497 （long sword vs miaodao） b23.tv/av22412531/p1 （katana vs miaodao，just leave the topic，it’s useing for cheat keyboardman in comment section below.）

@suigetsudaifuku

4 жыл бұрын

actully, 劍 isnot wood stick, in the old days, 劍 is not a specific weapon. it means the weapon which carry in daily. just like the japanese, they also call katana 劍. 劍 has different meaning in the history and nowadays. and, the chinese army eliminated 劍 after Han. 劍 i mean sword with two side blade. From Tang Dynasty here is no 劍 in the army. they use 刀 Dao . and MiaoDao is not 劍. the books talk about 刀 are 辛酉刀法 and 單刀法選. from Ming, the technique start to be different within 刀 and 劍. and they have different strategy and skill.

that Swordsage channel would make fine addition to my collection

@madmysticmeister

5 жыл бұрын

Buzdygan same thing here lol I just subbed to his channel!

@bowmanc.7439

5 жыл бұрын

I subscribed to him a while ago but his videos are quite weird in the way that they seem unstructured unscripted and mostly without specific topics or editing. So it’s hard to get useful info from him. I mean I can tell he knows stuff, but he’s like that lecturer who no one wants to attend his lectures because it’s faster to just read the ppt and reading list. And he can’t talk clearly, doesn’t have a good mic yet he puts on noisy BGMs. Why? Are you trying to hide?

@Dr_Robodaz

5 жыл бұрын

I'd never even seen his work before. I feel so monumentally out of touch. Likewise, added to the list of must watch cannels.

@darthrevan2410

5 жыл бұрын

Gooooooooooooood😎

@brianknezevich9894

5 жыл бұрын

I've been subscribed for over a year, there's some great content and insight on a variety of topics.

Skall: What a tiny guard, don't you want to keep your hands? Skall's gladius: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?!

@Barberserk

5 жыл бұрын

Not only the gladius, but the other heavily shield-friendly swords that Skall often handles, the viking era swords, they, too, have similar guards. That's what I thought at first. And scimitars, again, they were often used with shields, the slashing techniques mostly keep the hand away from danger, so, smaller guards on them. The examples are many.

@satannstuff

4 жыл бұрын

I imagine it would be quite inconvenient to have a large hand guard when using a shield, a poorly placed thrust or even a slash can easily cause the guard to strike the shield. As soldiers tend to get tired during a battle and won't be at their best most of the time, the odds of that happening and potentially being a fatal mistake would be significant enough that you could even lose a battle because of it.

@beccag2758

4 жыл бұрын

Everyone on Star Wars: I mean, that never slowed me down

@arielfetters5662

4 жыл бұрын

Skall's Kriegsmesser; "YES lol!"

@bul21301

4 жыл бұрын

Rome sword and Viking sword also have tiny guard.

Having trained extensively with both weapons, the whole point of the difference in point of rotation is the fact that the rapier is designed specifically to run your opponent's blade onto the hilt for control, whereas the jain style is designed to keep the opponent's blade away from your hilt. Size of the opponent's blade is largely irrelevant. With proper technique, I can displace a Scottish broadsword with a smallsword. I do love watching Swordsage move with a sword. Anything he picks up becomes a part of him. I also must say that I always appreciate Skall's open minded approach to everything. Very cool all around, guys.

@itinerantpoet1341

2 жыл бұрын

Also, all true jian cuts and slices come from inside the guard. (Those "pretty, circular movements" are the counters that set up the cuts.)

@itinerantpoet1341

Жыл бұрын

I disagree. They're both amateurs, they're both soft, and nobody who does this for real gets soft like that until their 80's. By then, their technique is so good, it doesn't matter. But that's also the point when they can no longer contend with the young masters. These guys are already at that point in their 30's, just that they were never masters to being with.

@kkgauthier

Жыл бұрын

@@itinerantpoet1341 You're probably too old to be believing in "masters" who "do this for real". Be careful of this kind of cultish mentality.

"What's that?" "A sword?" That earned my most sincere like

@kkcheungus1

4 жыл бұрын

chinesemartialstudies.com/2020/02/25/lk-chen-and-the-rebirth-of-the-han-jian/

Bruh that beginning xD “do you like your hands?”

@scratchy996

5 жыл бұрын

I like my hands ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

For a second there I was like Jheeze Skalls got a mad tan

@speedstriker

5 жыл бұрын

And sick dreads.

@asaguda

5 жыл бұрын

wait you mean they're not both skall what

@Zonic0000

5 жыл бұрын

It's quite sunny up in Victoria for a last few months

@arlaghdoth4434

5 жыл бұрын

*CONFUSED TOM*

and thus a graphic novel was created where these two gentlemen fight side by side and getting into crazy antics, usually trying to out compete each other in a friendly way

@sirpepeofhousekek6741

4 жыл бұрын

Legolas and Gimli in real life.

Martial artist: You protect your hands by using technique HEMA longsworder: baffled look

@cendresaphoenix1974

4 жыл бұрын

A guard would still help so long as it suits the techniques lol. I'm sure that there is some kind of technique that suits large handles just fine.

@joadams8022

4 жыл бұрын

@@cendresaphoenix1974 There certainly is, but the joke is that longsword 'fencers' tend to rush in and blindly attack. Even at the tournament level, seeing actual techniques is a notable rarity. Being generous, it comes from an overly-simplistic reading of the so-called Lichtenauer sources, and the prevalence of heavily protective kit.

@cendresaphoenix1974

4 жыл бұрын

@@joadams8022 i mean I think it's more becuse there isn't actually any threat. Also there is that which is similar to fencing some people treat it more like a sport than an actual battle. The only plavce you will ever see a real sword fight is in a vr survival game.

@joadams8022

4 жыл бұрын

@@cendresaphoenix1974 It's perfectly possible to train and fence with the mentality that there is a real threat. However, you are right, many longsworders (and rapierists and sabreurs, but longsword is nearly always shit) don't acknowledge any potential consequences. Clubs like Blood and Iron with their doctrine of sufficient contact are even worse, subjectively ignoring hits. A VR swordfight is going to be even more riddled with artefacts, misplaced priorities and downright stupid moves.

@cendresaphoenix1974

4 жыл бұрын

@@joadams8022 how there can be some pretty stupid things but for those who don't want to lose months or years worth of stuff will fight as if they will lose everything... Because they will.

Am I in another alternate universe where Nordic skallagrim turned into Jamaican skallmon

@thurismundbotheric7598

5 жыл бұрын

Skallmon, lol, that sounds like a digimon

@demammoet

5 жыл бұрын

Don't make it weird, just two guys comparing swords and deciding which is better. :O

@yungjoemighty879

5 жыл бұрын

shut up

@ianbonnar1801

5 жыл бұрын

@@demammoet how is it weird? It's just a joke.

@demammoet

5 жыл бұрын

@@ianbonnar1801 It was a joke, but as usual lot's of people don't get it.

Less than 1 min in hes already making fun of his tiny Guard

@Y4ngCP

5 жыл бұрын

compensando algo my brodah

@nathanbrown8680

5 жыл бұрын

That tiny guard makes me want to compare the jian to a Viking or Frankish sword. The Jian is longer in both the blade and the grip, but the crossguard and pommel look like something was driving convergent evolution. (spoiler: it was almost definitely shields)

@MrJecossey

4 жыл бұрын

Made in Brazil u peep that too

Fantastic illustrative video. I would like to share somemore, during ancient times of China, there was a saying like a consensus of bladed fighting. “砍伤刺死” it could be translated directly as "Cut injures, thrust kills". Jian(剑，swords) was more purpose-built toward thrust and was relatively thinner and lighter. Dao(刀, cutlass) was more purposed as cutting weapon. Chinese Jian became more ceremonial during time while Dao assert dominance in military battlefield. During Han Dynasty, there was a metallurgy technology advantage over its main enemy Huns. Weapons made of primitive steel was much better than Huns' weaponry. That is why a sword such thin and light existed. Even though Jian were replaced by HuanDao(single edged straight cutlass with ring pummel, heavier and more heavy duty) in military field during Han Dynasity.

@itinerantpoet1341

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Any serious wudang fencer is going to force you to come through their point, and jian is called "king of short weapons" for it's ability to dispatch an opponent with a single well placed thrust. But real practitioners practice those thrusts a thousand times a day for the first few years, and not doing that is why nearly all the videos you see look so amateur, even from garden variety "masters". (Note that spear is "king of long weapons" for the similar ability to kill with a single thrust.)

Omg you two are awesome to watch together! I've adored how humble and fun Skal is for ages but Sage too? This really is a delight to watch. I hope more people take on your attitudes towards weapons and history.

A surprise collab to be sure, but a welcome one!

@lindgrenland

5 жыл бұрын

Gooood... Gooood...

@akaaoife2312

5 жыл бұрын

This is where the fun begins

@mistakenotou7681

5 жыл бұрын

Not a big of a surprise . It was going to happen at one point . He had been in a few of the livestrams before

@lindgrenland

5 жыл бұрын

@@mistakenotou7681 =) Have you got such a rich world to discover, my friend

@Tycini1

5 жыл бұрын

ing* sorry

Marve: Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover event in history... Skallagrim: Hold my sword.

Swordsage is among the very few KZreadrs who can discuss the design of Chinese swords in the historical and martial art context, bonus the technical aspects that we are familiar with in HEMA like blade profile, guard design, grip style etc. Makes you understand why the sword is designed like this and the technique is supposed to be like that. Such an under-researched area, Chinese weapons.

@itinerantpoet1341

2 жыл бұрын

Here's an actual master demonstrating: kzread.info/dash/bejne/na6VxI-cd9ifcZM.html Yes, some people actually devote their lives to this weapon, to be able to really do it.

This is such an awesome video. I love this collab. You guys come from different martial backgrounds but it's so interesting seeing a discussion and collaboration that isn't based on what is stronger or better, but more of a discussion on technique and usage. I LOVE IT.

Wow as an ethnic Chinese I've always been fascinated with Chinese weaponry, espcially Jian and Dao which I feel aren't as popular as their Western counterparts, glad you made this video

@hcrdfju4954

4 жыл бұрын

anshu lieyi whats wrong with it?

@ninototo1

4 жыл бұрын

@anshu lieyi what's the problem

@rms1034

4 жыл бұрын

@anshu lieyi ...Race should not matter, it's the amount of study, knowledge and skills that matters

@MetalWolf47

4 жыл бұрын

@anshu lieyi so? He knows about it. You noob

@Evilgood1

4 жыл бұрын

I’m interested in the weapons which don’t have many parallels. My personal favorite is the bian. It looks kinda like a giant chopstick, and it’s absolutely deadly.

Thats not a Noife THIS IS A NOIFE

@Mlai00

5 жыл бұрын

The Australian knife (noife). The noife (noife) means knife in English.

@serjeyanjelos1830

4 жыл бұрын

A FOCKING NOIFE

Practicing with those Chinese long swords is awesome. The movements are so powerful, but still surprisingly agile. Nice collaboration, thank you :)

That longsword immediately made me think of the *Japanese Katana* variants: • The *_Nodachi_* & • The *_Nagamaki._* The *_Nodachi_* was perhaps the most similar with an extended blade length & much longer handle ( _Tsuka_ ), and would have been used on the battlefield in a powerful two handed - making it exceedingly difficult to block, or parry,. There are stories of *Samurai* cutting armored enemies in half with a single swing of the *_Nodachi._* The *_Nagamaki_* however, was more a pole arm that was dressed as a sword. While the blade was the standard size for a sword, the handle was of equal length & was wrapped like a *_Katana_* , making it pretty odd looking, neither fish, nor fowl. Despite it's unusal appearance, it was apparently a highly effective anti-cavalry weapon. ~ ~ ~ Completely off topic, but if either of you decide to discuss Pole Arms, as well as swords, I seriously love the similar *Chinese* weapons the *Pudao* & *Kwan Dao.* The *Pudao* is basically a curved, single-edged *Chinese Scimitar* ( *_Dao_* ) on a 4 foot pole, with ring-shaped counterweight. The extremely cool *Kwan Dao* ( _also _*_Guan Dao_* ) has a longer, thicker pole, with a shorter, heavier, more axe-like blade, often with a wavy, spikey back ( _presumably to catch/break an opponent's weapon_ ). There's either a heavy bronze ball, or ball & steel spike, as counterweight. Neither being light weapons ( _The Kwan Dao could weight as much as 10Kg!_ ), I've no idea how effective they were on a real battlefield, but I've been in love with the flashy *Kwan Dao* since I first saw one in the *70s* tv show *_Monkey_* ( _& was fascinated to find out it was a real thing_ ).

Im sorry Skall, but those chinese swords looks very awesome...

@rasspliffari

5 жыл бұрын

dont be sorry they are awesome

@Skallagrim

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, I totally agree. :)

@Barberserk

5 жыл бұрын

Whoever makes them really knows their work. I loved the last one, it's like a totally different weapon, and yet still a sword.

@xllab1

5 жыл бұрын

@Targaryen Dynasty lol calm down dude, every sword has its charm

@eduardvolution

4 жыл бұрын

@john son Oh fuck yes. Pommel protecting my gaping ass. Yes pommel

More chinese sword content pls! Also a duel between the two of you!

@teddycouch9306

5 жыл бұрын

YES

@camrendavis6650

5 жыл бұрын

To the *death*

@salfordshan3545

5 жыл бұрын

*Pommel fight* !

@nunya_bizniz

5 жыл бұрын

Ok people, place ur bets on who would win...

@Wvk5zc

4 жыл бұрын

TO THE DEATH!

This might be one the best videos you've done, and I mean that sincerely. I learned a ton in just under 20 mins

Thank you so much for the detailed comparison, made me love the Jian and know how to utilize it better! Great content!

"We'll leave it at that for now." NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I could listen to you pair rack on about swords and technique all day. Thanks for the vid dudes!

@ssunfish

5 жыл бұрын

Yes. I mean intelligent conversation with focus. It was fascinating!!! Felt I was really being taught

As an Italian, I approve of your pronunciation, Skall

@scratchy996

4 жыл бұрын

He's German , so it's not that difficult :)

@ninototo1

4 жыл бұрын

@ He moved to Canada and lives there now

This is a fascinating video. Thanks to both of you for presenting it. Its always great to see people getting together like this and doubling down on the expertise so we learn more.

He is scarily fast with that blade lol

A black man who knows kung fu swordsmanship? Why does that sound like an awesome trope I've heard or seen in a movie before?

@hmmmhmmm6917

5 жыл бұрын

Afro Samurai

@user-zi6lw2jz4o

5 жыл бұрын

Ghost Dog

@tortoisesoup16

5 жыл бұрын

Kenny from Rush Hour 2 babyyy

@pattonramming1988

5 жыл бұрын

Blade

@chengkuoklee5734

5 жыл бұрын

Afro Wuxia (武侠)

That last one looks like someone took a spear and reversed the handle-to-blade ratio. I love it. And by that I mean it doesn't just look like a sword. Rather it looks like a weird spear, and to hear the techniques are polearm-like is great.

@kkcheungus1

5 жыл бұрын

lkchensword.com/striking-eagle

I love this video, mostly because it feels like you two really have fun discussing this stuff, and the back and forth is really fluid.

So awesome seeing Swordsage and you hanging out! Love all your vids, Skall!

The main issue with the Chinese Jian is the lack of pommel, therefore, it's impossible to end the opponent rightly. Case closed.

@seadawg93

5 жыл бұрын

Ben 🤣😂🤣

@NyanHomeschoolGirl17

5 жыл бұрын

Glad to know I can still count on Skalls comment section for the pommel references!

@Malathis85

5 жыл бұрын

@@alaskarii007 Yikes man, just here for some inside humor, if you're not a fan that's on you. Hope it gets better for you.

@camrendavis6650

5 жыл бұрын

@@alaskarii007 ........what a hard-ass

@ayobruce8211

5 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for this comment haha!!

The Canadians finally decided to let SwordSage into CANADA with Skallagrim!

@pattonramming1988

5 жыл бұрын

Canada did something right imagine my shock

@ianbonnar1801

5 жыл бұрын

@@pattonramming1988 I'm guessing you're American.

@pattonramming1988

5 жыл бұрын

@@ianbonnar1801 that's a safe bet

Thank you for introducing me to @swordsage . I haven't checked out his channel before but I am really enjoying his videos. Very knowledgeable and interesting!

Honestly is there anything better then seeing two experts with good chemistry working off each other flawlessly to disect their passions. Adored the energy coming off this video

When I wake up today, I never imagine I'd be seeing a viking and a rasta speaking about chinese sword

Just subbed to swordsage, it’s cool of you Skall to help promote a smaller channel. I hadn’t heard of him until now.

I'm an Asian learning about Chinese swords from a black guy. I love the internet.

I've been waiting for this collab video since SwordSage's attempted move. Excellent content, hoping for more before the move.

More Sword Banter videos ft. Swordsage please!! I would totally listen to you two talk about swords for hours lol.

I have been waiting so long for you to talk about the Jian, thank you for that. Could you compare chinese armor to European armor.

@cosmiclive4437

5 жыл бұрын

Mountain pattern armor. I don't know why people are so obsessed with Yoroi if you got that stuff ripe for picking. It just screams to be used by a hero of some kind.

@cosmiclive4437

5 жыл бұрын

@@05firen Fair point. Doesn't stop it from looking awesome. And I mean that quite an interesting topic for Skall to explore. (Now I want to research that stuff... but it's getting late here so maybe tomorrow)

@ctrlaltdebug

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah do lamellar vs maille.

@braydenj1327

5 жыл бұрын

@@ctrlaltdebug Not really comparable.

@ctrlaltdebug

5 жыл бұрын

R maille was very rare and imported. I'm unaware of any large forces equipped with western style riveted maille armor. Steel/leather lamellar is the most iconic from the earlier dynasties.

Loved this video. Awesome that y'all finally got a real collab video.

I'm quite impressed at the way that swordsage is able to talk normally whilst making those quite flamboyant movements. You can hear the exertion in Skallagrim's voice when he tries to do that, and I definitely sound the same when I try to demonstrate martial forms to my friends.

Very cool. Love how you respect each other’s choices of swords.

as an italian it's very weird listening Skallagrim pronounce "spada da lato", but damn I'm proud of you trying XD

Very good video. When he showed the disengagement with the Jian and how a different center of gravity affected his technique, that was enlightening.

Man this was a really cool video to watch. Love seeing the difference and exploration of different swords

What, you saying Chinese actually make legit weapon not just flimsy movie prop? That's illegal!!!

@hmmmhmmm6917

5 жыл бұрын

Yea... That's what ppl tend to do when you have massive empires and armies to finance

@i_love_crpg

5 жыл бұрын

Hmmm Hmmm no, the floppy swords is due to the popular wushu culture of chinese swords, when in actuality chinese swords were not like that at all. Most dao were actually straight, and most jians before the qing dynasty had longer blades with shorter handles. That is due to the fact that most jians were used with shields, hence why you don’t see complex guards

@hmmmhmmm6917

5 жыл бұрын

@@i_love_crpg Thanks

@christianalbertjahns2577

5 жыл бұрын

@@i_love_crpg when you say "most jians were used with shield", sorry but I beg to differ. Most military jian were used with shield, but you must know that Chinese spent most of the time in history favoring dao over jian for military sidearm, and jian becomes exclusively nonmilitary weapon (similar in function to rapier and smallsword), so the argument "most jians were used with shield" is not valid

@i_love_crpg

5 жыл бұрын

@@christianalbertjahns2577 I think you misunderstood what I was saying. i wasn't saying "all" jian, i was saying "most" jian. Read carefully please

Love Swordsage. So glad to see him and Skall together.

This was a Fantastic episode mate! Thank you very much!

Great video. Thanks for introducing a new channel to us.

I hardly leave any comment on your channel but this episode was very cool! Loved the special guest, the notions about eastern swords and the discussions between you two. 10/10 It has a little something for everybody - IGN

Very cool vid Skall! You should do more on Chinese weaponry (perhaps polearms such as the Guan Dao?) and do some more collaborations!

@icyrazor

5 жыл бұрын

Guan Dao is more of an affectation than a legit battlefield implement. The weapons that it came from that were battlefield tested were the "da dao" and "po dao". Both glaives although at the same time, glaives weren't used very much in warfare. Melee infantry by the mid Han dynasty were equipped with pikes and sometimes a jian as your sidearm.

Awesome content skall. Your channel really shines above the rest

This is one of the best videos that i keep on coming back to watch again and again

Amazing chemistry between you two. Bromance? Edit: I searched "Swordsage" and subscribed because of this collab.

This is my favorite duo to see and really makes me interested in Chinese sword arts. Especially since the trainers and swords are not only made to be historically accurate but they're so affordable compared to European swords despite their niche market!

@kkcheungus1

5 жыл бұрын

lkchensword.com

Skull coming in with his analysis and then the expert is great I love it! Y'all did great on this video!!!!

That cut at the end... looked like and SOUNDED like it passed through that mat like it was AIR. Also, excellent video. You two together really have chemistry! Glad to see it again!

I actually really like that last sword. Maybe it's more of the equivalent to great sword/claymore (chinese)?

@camrendavis6650

5 жыл бұрын

Defiantly a greatsword

@raithegemologist5114

5 жыл бұрын

its possible im wrong but i think its a shuang shou jian

@camrendavis6650

5 жыл бұрын

@@raithegemologist5114 ohhhhhh right. Now I remember

@felisasininus1784

5 жыл бұрын

Shuang Shou means Two-Hand(ed). Just FYI incase anyone wonders.

@christianalbertjahns2577

5 жыл бұрын

It's shuangshoujian. Shuangshou means two hands, which means shuangshoujian means two handed sword

Hey Skall great vids, I just want to say thank you for educating me in How to end my foes rightly.

This has been a long time coming. Awesome vid guys

This is one of your best videos! So much knowledge and information

This Swordsage man seems interesting! Which means he's a threat. Challenge him to a duel and dispatch him.

@ernstschloss8794

4 жыл бұрын

He does know how to handle that Jian, for sure...

@rickdeckard1075

4 жыл бұрын

I would take his discussion of metallurgy, mechanical balance and technique if his ancestors had invented a wheel

@alephkasai9384

4 жыл бұрын

@@rickdeckard1075 They got fireworks tho

@thomasbrown3867

4 жыл бұрын

@@rickdeckard1075 What the fuck are you on about? Is this another one of those historically illiterate comments?

Sometimes culture has more influence than functionality. Everything is a trade off.

I loved the collaboration, great video gentlemen!

This video was amazing. I'm a huge fan of this. I like these comparisons and different thoughts on how one could use differing techniques to achieve similar goals.

I would love to see swordsage partake in some Hema practice. His technique and sword styles against some sabre and long sword technique and equipment. The compare and contrast would be very interesting indeed!

Great stuff. Interesting to hear about Chinese swords and swordsmanship.

@jintsuubest9331

5 жыл бұрын

Well, I think swordsmanship in general during time of war is if you can kill peep without yourself getting kill, it is good.

This video was absolutely addictive. Thank you, you two!

Finally got around to watching this video. Three things; Swordsage is fantastic! The two of you really bounce off well together, and Skal's face when Sage said the dragon-headed guard was a practice blade was funny as hell.

Chinese swords are typically one handed Jain is always double edged, and focus on speed techniques flexibility and such

Compare the guard of the jian to other swords used in conjunction with shields: the viking sword, the gladius, the kopis.

@fabiovarra3698

5 жыл бұрын

or just all swords from tenth century and early on

@dakotafawson1223

5 жыл бұрын

Khrene Cleaver gladius comparison would be cool because they were probably the two most significant “soldier”swords in that time period.

Really enjoying the content lately!

Really cool video! Hope to see some more!!

Chinese history is so underrated, and the Han dynasty is my fav

So when you Sword Sage describes the last sword as 'spear like' and says it was designed to go up against polearms....well I instantly got a Zweihander vibe. Why? Well the Zweihander was used to loose pikes g presumably other polearms

@camrendavis6650

5 жыл бұрын

Very true

@garrenbrooks9703

5 жыл бұрын

Check skalls pants. He REALLY likes that sword.

@Swordsage

5 жыл бұрын

Well, when you consider that this particular two handed jian was used by heavy infantry... ;)

@christianalbertjahns2577

5 жыл бұрын

Well I believe that long sword is called shuangshoujian. Shuangshou means two hands (or more literally, pair of hands) while jian means sword. So basically shuangshoujian is Chinese zweihander.

@Intranetusa

4 жыл бұрын

It is especially similar when you consider the sword dates to around the late Warring States and Chu and Han eras (eg. Chu-Han contention and Han Dynasty). During this time, ancient Chinese armies practiced a form of pseudo-Pike and Shot warfare where armies were using dense mixed unit formations equipped with pikes up to 18 feet long, halberds, and massed crossbow fire. It's usage seems very similar to Zweihanders that were also used against pike and polearm formations during the European pike and shot era.

Great video! I'm very glad to see Swordsage back!

The discussion on blade movement was really interesting. Thanks!

Cool to learn so much about Chinese swords and see the comparisons. Great video! Are there groups out there sparring with Chinese swords with a similar intensity that we do in hema?

@konstellashon1364

4 жыл бұрын

at my school we used Action Flex swords. Well, no. We'd try to before we started humming and having lightsaber battles.

If the first jian that we saw is a Han dynasty design, that would make it roughly contemporaneous with Rome at the peak of it's power. The hand guard of a Roman gladius appears to similar size or smaller. Even a viking sword from nearly a millennium later doesn't have a significantly larger guard. Interestingly, each of these swords was used primarily one-handed with a shield.

@kkcheungus1

4 жыл бұрын

lkchensword.com/han-fencing-jian

This was very informative and entertaining, and I'm just realizing I need this information because I'm writing a Chinese swordswoman, so I'll head straight to Swordsage's channel. Thanks!

Great collaboration. Now I have another sword channel to view. Thank you, both.

So, interesting question. Did they develop the weapon for the technique or adapt the technique for the weapon? This really opens a lot of fascinating fantasy combinations of techniques and weapons. Bravo, you two, amazing video!

@smokybear4204

5 жыл бұрын

All depends on the weapon on question like the Jian or gladius it's made too work a shield but something like a falx you can use it two banded, one handed, and with a shield etc it all depends on what the end goal the people in question wants with the weapon

@chanjiayang9595

5 жыл бұрын

Chinese sword using skills are really different from hema, basically total two technique

@argr4sh

5 жыл бұрын

I'd say both, one makes a sword, which has specific properties and favoured techniques dependent on stuff like centre of gravity and curvature. People start making techniques for it and swordsmiths start making swords which complement these techniques.

@Barberserk

5 жыл бұрын

I imagine something in between, the weapon and technique developed at the same time, you can't have one without the other, right?

@Opachki69420

4 жыл бұрын

@@argr4sh very much like a chicken or the egg dilema lol

Yeah! My country's dao & jian are getting their well deserved attention!

I'd love more videos like this. It's so fascinating to see how swords were built around techniques and attitudes

Glorious to see you two together finally!!!

Jian was mostly peacetime self-defense weapon. It's lightweight and easily carried around. So you see a lot of Jian was variably decorated since it's part of a person's attire. It's highly effective against unarmored foe. But for wartime, the Chinese usually carry a heavier Dao. The Dao has enough weight to cut through a typical Chinese armor. But it's too big and heavy to be carried around in peacetime.

@kkcheungus1

4 жыл бұрын

lkchensword.com/misconceptions-1 specially starting 4:01

Is the Glock knife review coming?

@grahamlopez6202

5 жыл бұрын

God I hope not

@gokuss15

5 жыл бұрын

It’s a decent bayonet. That’s about it.

Loved this video and the effort! Both off you thank you very much :)