Good video! People constantly tell me the Remington is so much easier, but I’ve never seen a real difference in the ease of swapping cylinders.

@classicgunstoday1972

Жыл бұрын

The snapping the barrel pin in and out on the Colt can vary a great deal. It can be a push of the thumb like Duke’s or it could need a brass tool and small hammer. My 20 year old Pietta at least needs a good bump or two of my wrist

@user-jb8fx8sb4e

Жыл бұрын

I honestly have never had an issue with just tapping it out with my knuckle. Even after 5 cylinders, it only takes a tap or two of my knuckle and it pops free. Been like that since the day I got it. Shoots great.

@soabac0835

Ай бұрын

@@user-jb8fx8sb4e it shouldn't even need to be hit that much, the wedge is just touching around itself enough to retain the parts, the only thing keeping it in place is the little tab that protrudes out the side it comes out in. ideally you should be able to push it out and in with two thumbs

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I like the scene in hell on wheels where one of the southern robbers tries to swap cylinders on his colt and realized he screwed up.

Good comparison. I've tried quick change on the Remington before. I never tried on a Colt. Maybe I'll give it a try some time. Thanx for the demonstration.

Practice practice practice.

To my knowledge (which is not exhaustive) the only historical basis for swapping cylinders was the Prussian / German navy. From what I understand they had confiscated a shipment of Colt Navy's that was on its way to Russia during Crimea. They kept them and issued them with a spare cylinder and unique holster. Forgotten Weapons has a video on it.

@DukeFrazierProductions

Жыл бұрын

There are references of it happening with the Missouri Guerilla units, but not on a large scale.

@TheLoneDragoon

Жыл бұрын

@@DukeFrazierProductions I didn't know that. Thanks for the new information!

@classicgunstoday1972

Жыл бұрын

Seems like I heard of a preacher circuit rider in California doing it during a gold mining dispute. ;)

@MrSmith-zy2bp

10 ай бұрын

Col. Mosby's Rangers were also known to have done it. Probably after they fired the brace 4 or 5 revolvers they usually carried.

Yep. I discovered the same myself. I notice that you have also tuned your Colt wedge to function perfectly with thumb-spring pressure alone. BRAVO! That was the purpose of the thumb spring when introduced by Root in 1841.

Of course this depends on how easy it is to get the Colt barrel pin in and out. I have to at least give my 20 year old Pietta navy a good bump with my wrist if not a tap with something solid and brass to get it out. But yes, the two piece (three counting cylinder) can be a little complicated without a table to set things on. My original howell removable conversion cylinder video needed 3 hands and I only had two

I am a fan of both guns! Nice video, thanks!

Cool. Thanks for demonstrating

How's about actually shooting 3 cylinders in 30 seconds or less. I'm throwing out a challenge for a video proving you can do it. I'll furnish the prize, a Colt or Remington C&B. Love to see a challenge.

What documentation is there for this practice anyway? I have never seem proof of spare cylinders being carried. Pale Rider don’t count 🤪. A second or third gun seems to be the more common practice, of there are sources I don’t know about Id love to be wrong.

@DukeFrazierProductions

Жыл бұрын

There is documentation of it with some Missouri guerrillas and the Texas Rangers with the Patersons. That's about it. Definitely not commonplace.

Hi again. May I respectfully point out that the colt pin should be fairly snug, typically requiring more effort to remove than seen here with your gun. One test of a colt is how much play is in the mounted cylinder. A too loose pin is a problem. I dunno, but all of my colts require a bit more effort to remove the pin than yours. Now you are on a bench. The colt requires the pin out, then the barrel off, then the cylinder comes off, you'll be holding several parts (no bench), barrel, frame, both cylinders, in combat maybe on horseback. The Remington does not require complete disassembly and the cylinder pin cannot fall out of the gun; leaving one holding only the gun, and the cylinder(s), much easier in combat.

@DukeFrazierProductions

Жыл бұрын

The repros are notoriously over tight. Thumb presuure should be enough to remove them.

@williamschlosser77

Жыл бұрын

@@DukeFrazierProductions lol, now ya got me digging thru my collection and changing cylinders for comparison. Right on bruh, thanks for your work!

@williamschlosser77

Жыл бұрын

@@DukeFrazierProductions yeah none of mine are easy, but the pin does pop right out on the ground when it does go. (I got 3 here, one navy and 2 1860+)

I have several 1851 and 1860 Colts and a couple of Remingtons. I have had the wife time me a few times and I usually can change the Colt out quicker than the Remington. The Colt has been my favorite for many years and as such, I have shot way more rounds through them than my Remingtons. That alone probably makes me faster with the Colts. I am sure there are others here that are the exact opposite. I personally believe you will probably be faster with the one you are more used to and more proficient with.

I'd suggest a few minor quibbles with that. You did that with unfired revolvers and your Colt comes apart more easily than the ones I have seen. None of the Colts I own (all repros, admittedly) come apart that easily; two of the three require a hammer to remove the wedge, and one requires me to use the loading lever to get the barrel off. When they are fouled (as they would be if you were swapping cylinders), they are even harder to remove--all of mine require a hammer when they have been fired. Also, I think the extra pieces of the Colt are more problematic to manage than you suggest--especially if your wedge tends to fall out, as some do (I've had mine fall to the ground a few times while trying to clear a jam on a Colt). In addition, it's pretty much moot, since (other than a few guys with Pattersons) no one ever really did cylinder swaps. The real advantage of the Remington is how much easier it is to just move the cylinder out a little bit to clear a cap jam when it really locks up, something it does more rarely than Colts do. Now no one jump on me here, I'm sure some other Colts come apart as easily as yours did, but I know of a *lot* of people who can't just strip them out this easily.

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The Colt seems to have a loose locking lug. I always seem to have to give mine a good whack.

@DukeFrazierProductions

Жыл бұрын

They should be thumb tight.

@ralphperez4862

Жыл бұрын

@@DukeFrazierProductions Ahh.Perhaps I ned to shoot mine more. I've got 12different bp revolvers. Ha. Thanks Duke.

Now try the Starr, heheh

Did you hedge a little not having the screw holding the wedge on the navy?

@DukeFrazierProductions

Жыл бұрын

The screw is in there, it doesn't have to come out to take the barrel off......usually. I never take it out on any of my Ubertis.

Some will say cylinder changes didn’t happen. As fast as those cylinder changes are, I don't doubt it was used back in the 1800s. While probably not common, it didn't need to be, self-defense shootings are usually over after a few shots fired. I definitely believe in guerrilla partisans in the CW, like Col. John Mosby, used it. Mosby's Rangers took only pistols into a raid and used ever advantage they could with pistols.

@DukeFrazierProductions

10 ай бұрын

The only accounts of cylinder swaps are with Colts and most are pre-Civil war.