Suzuka pole lap 2024 vs 2023 - How 2024 lost S1 but still won overall

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  • @yelistener
    @yelistener2 ай бұрын

    Why is Stroll so much slower than Alonso in Japan 2024 qualifying: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gK6Hm7eTebXFiqw.html

  • @vutrinhan3026

    @vutrinhan3026

    2 ай бұрын

    Nice i love creators like you that knows what their fans wants in the comments

  • @slartibartfast2649
    @slartibartfast26492 ай бұрын

    Please compare Alonso and Stroll in Q1. It would be interesting to see where the massive difference comes from. It seems like there wasn't an issue with the car on Stroll's end, just a lacking pace. Maybe the difference was used tyres or track conditions, but nearly 8 tenths between teammates is crazy either way.

  • @johnd9137

    @johnd9137

    2 ай бұрын

    Its just a Skill issue

  • @vieldeutiger

    @vieldeutiger

    2 ай бұрын

    @@johnd9137 That is no wonder but the commenter requested to compare them, so you could see more easily where Stroll really meased up

  • @madeovstarstuff

    @madeovstarstuff

    2 ай бұрын

    Will this be for data related reasons and (or) amusement? Both are credible reasons

  • @quentinhirschfeld9382

    @quentinhirschfeld9382

    2 ай бұрын

    There is an issue with Stroll's car, it is between the steering wheel and the racing seat.

  • @SuBruoNL

    @SuBruoNL

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm guessing stroll only used 5 gears.

  • @sergioferrero46
    @sergioferrero462 ай бұрын

    Just like in Bahrain, Red Bull showed they've improved in slow-speed corners and traction. Also, better downforce despite the wind??? The massive difference in 130R makes me doubt it

  • @Loduwa_46

    @Loduwa_46

    2 ай бұрын

    you mean Red Bull or this Toro Rosso or whatever it’s called

  • @sergioferrero46

    @sergioferrero46

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Loduwa_46 yeah it's confusing now😂. However, I think it's obvious that I'm talking about Red Bull, mainly because the videos is about them

  • @loughieholt2737

    @loughieholt2737

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@Loduwa_46well they aren't called red bull are they?

  • @megumin3336

    @megumin3336

    2 ай бұрын

    "difference in 130r makes me doubt it" Why? "Flat corner" stands for a reason. Why corner is "flat"? Because car was not able to reach higher speed than can carry through it. With headwind and increased drag in 2024, top speed was smaller than with tailwind and reduced drag.

  • @Loduwa_46

    @Loduwa_46

    2 ай бұрын

    well actually they once said that the RB in the name stands for 'Red Bull' not Racing Bulls soooo it's really confusing

  • @GiampieroRusso
    @GiampieroRusso2 ай бұрын

    And I want to remind you that this year in Suzuka we race at the beginning of the season, if we had raced at the end of the season like last year, the improvement would probably have been more than a second

  • @PICKUPSPEED

    @PICKUPSPEED

    2 ай бұрын

    Fact mate ❤

  • @niksal1

    @niksal1

    2 ай бұрын

    Yup this plays a major factor in laptime comparison, as the teams would have gained so much more speed after developments....so abu dhabi would probably be the best track to compare in order to offset the race calendar timeframe factor

  • @jonihamalainen2228

    @jonihamalainen2228

    2 ай бұрын

    Very true. Adrian Newey would have showed more like a 1-1.5 second off from 2023. ;)

  • @mythicalrp5642
    @mythicalrp56422 ай бұрын

    Rocket on the straights, glued to the track through the corners. No wonder why Max and Checo are having so much fun.

  • @fixxa6455

    @fixxa6455

    2 ай бұрын

    Sure, but you have to be consistent in getting out the most of it all the time

  • @0xfeedcafe
    @0xfeedcafe2 ай бұрын

    I was watching Alonso 2023 and 2024 onboard and it's crazy how much that car improved in the span of 6 months, almost 2 seconds of difference on the laptimes on Q3

  • @rafael.andrade3702
    @rafael.andrade37022 ай бұрын

    One of the main problems RedBull had last year was slow corners. Well, I think they have fixed it and I don't doubt that times will maybe similar to 2019

  • @dkent3853
    @dkent38532 ай бұрын

    I was waiting for this. Thank you mate, great content ❤

  • @the_fleeing_dutchman
    @the_fleeing_dutchman2 ай бұрын

    Again an excellent analysis. Well done! You have earned my subscription, with thanks!

  • @bagasadin-gp8li
    @bagasadin-gp8li2 ай бұрын

    damn!! that comparison detail even the track condition at start was brilliant, hat off to you sir you done a great job take my subscribe !!!!

  • @darrenboston342
    @darrenboston3422 ай бұрын

    Great analysis buddy, it’s even better watching it in the garage when you work there👌

  • @ylli9028
    @ylli90282 ай бұрын

    Both cars are so stable through the turns

  • @JensenR12
    @JensenR122 ай бұрын

    I kid you not I just watched the pole lap from the F1 channel, it finishes and then this comes up. Timing to perfection 😂

  • @aadamlebbeibrahim
    @aadamlebbeibrahim2 ай бұрын

    So u are telling me 7 tenths off-ed today's Lewis W15 matched last year RB's pole time meaning Mercs are 1 whole year behind the development😮?

  • @orangepekoe7096

    @orangepekoe7096

    2 ай бұрын

    Not 1 year cause Japanese GP this year is earlier than last year.

  • @ok-dy2tz

    @ok-dy2tz

    2 ай бұрын

    What is bro cooking 😂

  • @kwanzafrank2902

    @kwanzafrank2902

    2 ай бұрын

    More like 6 months ISH cause Japan was late last year

  • @LastLapLando

    @LastLapLando

    2 ай бұрын

    @@kwanzafrank2902 I don't think Merc will be anywhere close to Red Bull even after 6 months...

  • @AgainstWokeness

    @AgainstWokeness

    2 ай бұрын

    6 months* behind RB19 and far ahead of W14

  • @vamositalia4600
    @vamositalia46002 ай бұрын

    The 2023 car was even a lot faster on the straights but still the 2024 car, despite the weather, was 7 tenths faster😳; the mechanical grip on that car is on another planet. At Monaco and Hungary I think Red Bull will absolutely demolish the 2023 laptimes.

  • @tuukkav1876

    @tuukkav1876

    2 ай бұрын

    Indeed

  • @AgainstWokeness

    @AgainstWokeness

    2 ай бұрын

    I think Ferrari will be better in Hungary. The track looks like it is built for their car

  • @atomicdonton

    @atomicdonton

    2 ай бұрын

    i think this year there was high tailwinds, most like explains the deficit on the straight

  • @niksal1

    @niksal1

    2 ай бұрын

    Also the Japanese gp is so much earlier in the year compared to last year, else the gap would have been even bigger

  • @RealRohanKumar
    @RealRohanKumar2 ай бұрын

    The music played in between the statistics wins my heart again and again❤❤

  • @Hamza-hi7ti
    @Hamza-hi7ti2 ай бұрын

    Please compare the laps of max and checo

  • @Iangamebr
    @Iangamebr2 ай бұрын

    I thought this year pole lap would go to the 27s. Quite disappointing from Max as well and he said he left time on the table, a 28 flat was definitely on the table.

  • @vrajpatel2763

    @vrajpatel2763

    2 ай бұрын

    Mainly becoz of weather, yesterday was raining which further hinder their setup nd also due to tht there is less grip also

  • @sirmounted8499

    @sirmounted8499

    2 ай бұрын

    max confirmed washed

  • @JotaV2502

    @JotaV2502

    2 ай бұрын

    Suzuka was late in the season and now it's early so only 6 months apart, yesterday was raining and compromised the setup and track condition, the wind was much worse in 2024

  • @Redlingstein
    @Redlingstein2 ай бұрын

    Great to see this comparison

  • @Mayank_MediumG
    @Mayank_MediumG2 ай бұрын

    now compare MAX and Checo's lap that spoon curse was too fast taken by Checo

  • @AgainstWokeness

    @AgainstWokeness

    2 ай бұрын

    Also Degner1, min speed 270kmh breaking the record (Leclerc 268kmh in 2022)

  • @sirmounted8499

    @sirmounted8499

    2 ай бұрын

    checo was cooking

  • @DoctorTauri

    @DoctorTauri

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah Checo really had a special lap there. I think he said literally the first corner he entered slower than his previous laps otherwise he would of been up a tenth

  • @scuffedgravyboat
    @scuffedgravyboat2 ай бұрын

    always look forward to your breakdown videos 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @gerardodepasquale6403
    @gerardodepasquale64032 ай бұрын

    Great video and analysis. Could it be possible to replicate the video on other drivers to see if the others did the same improvements?

  • @strikenoirify
    @strikenoirify2 ай бұрын

    I understood well that you reversed between the Hairpin Corner exit and 200R up to Spoon. Thank you for including the corner names. Is T16-17 referring to the chicane?

  • @thomasbakker6492
    @thomasbakker6492Ай бұрын

    Crazy how similar his moments and positions are in the early turns, almost exactly the same 🤯in the later turns I think 2024 takes the top, so stable.

  • @hattorihonzo8340
    @hattorihonzo83402 ай бұрын

    This and formula addict are the greatest F1 channels I’ve ever seen

  • @ajaysharma-nd5nt
    @ajaysharma-nd5nt2 ай бұрын

    Please please please make a video on Alonso 2023 vs Alonso 2024 in japan quali.. It would be awesome to see the advancement of a car within 6 months... Thank you. You're doing a great job. 👍👍

  • @LastLapLando
    @LastLapLando2 ай бұрын

    Anyone know what Lando's sector 1 time was? Was that quicker than Max's 2023 sector 1 time?

  • @TheJokerit19

    @TheJokerit19

    2 ай бұрын

    30.800 & marginally slower than Max's 2023 sector 1 time of 30.725.

  • @LastLapLando

    @LastLapLando

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TheJokerit19 But didn't Lando get purple sector 1?

  • @TheJokerit19

    @TheJokerit19

    2 ай бұрын

    @@LastLapLando No, second fastest in that sector.

  • @ik.ben.jou.dikke.duif23

    @ik.ben.jou.dikke.duif23

    2 ай бұрын

    @@LastLapLando on first run

  • @AgainstWokeness

    @AgainstWokeness

    2 ай бұрын

    @@LastLapLando Fastest in 1st laps, Max took it in the 2nd laps

  • @rolandotillit2867
    @rolandotillit28672 ай бұрын

    In that case Verstappen did better than I expected! I didn't pay attention to the wind direction difference! Good call sir. That man is an overachiever when it comes to driving.

  • @VColossalV

    @VColossalV

    2 ай бұрын

    No praise for Perez

  • @rolandotillit2867

    @rolandotillit2867

    2 ай бұрын

    @@VColossalV Not yet, he's almost earned it. Checo's been good in Suzuka since 2011, now it's time to convert. He could have won it in 2012 easily, 12 years later it's his best chance since.

  • @rolandotillit2867
    @rolandotillit28672 ай бұрын

    While there was a tailwind through the esses and Degner 2, there were headwinds in the crucial exits of the hairpin, spoon and Casio. Will the wind play a role in the race? It's predicted to be light and in the normal configuration. It's likely at two stopper, and being very difficult to pass on track being strategic with the timing of the stop can be decisive in both good or bad ways.

  • @christopheroconnor4665
    @christopheroconnor46652 ай бұрын

    Max's T5 in 2023 was MEGA

  • @magicencamar3216
    @magicencamar32162 ай бұрын

    Can you do a video if Alonso's lap, please? That lap was perfect!

  • @KayJblue
    @KayJblue2 ай бұрын

    It’s cool getting to see pure winter break progression.

  • @JotaV2502

    @JotaV2502

    2 ай бұрын

    Kind of. If not for the rain and wind, the difference would be much more

  • @dragantanasic6795
    @dragantanasic67952 ай бұрын

    Hey bro, can you record comparison of AMR23 last year at Suzuka here, and AMR24 ? Because that almost 2 SECONDS difference is....fucking huge haha, AMR23 - 1.30.4 time in Q2, AMR24 - 1.28.6 in Q3

  • @MechaporcoOFICIAL
    @MechaporcoOFICIAL2 ай бұрын

    your channel is much better than formula addict

  • @KlaussSaudaskaite-nr1cu
    @KlaussSaudaskaite-nr1cuАй бұрын

    Super Max did the best time in the train in 2023, and he did better his time from the next year! Max Max Max... super Max!

  • @kennysenpaii
    @kennysenpaii2 ай бұрын

    it'd be great if you can compare the times of other teams, or teams that actually became slower than their previous year quali on the same track

  • @user-oh3ho5gn9f
    @user-oh3ho5gn9f2 ай бұрын

    The speeds in most corners and the top speed on straights are significantly lower than last year, but the lap times are better this year. Is it correct to interpret this as meaning that the average speed before and after the measurement point is faster this year?

  • @rapidshot3033
    @rapidshot30332 ай бұрын

    Consistency king 👑

  • @corpsecoder_nw6746
    @corpsecoder_nw67462 ай бұрын

    This year's car despite the tail wind, doing well in slow corners in terms of higher apex speed and earlier acceleration....Monaco and Hungary should be great

  • @samhenriques4462
    @samhenriques44622 ай бұрын

    You should also compare Sergio’s lap this year to his previous one he was absolutely on it for the first time in a while.

  • @AgainstWokeness

    @AgainstWokeness

    2 ай бұрын

    Watching the onboard it was like watching another driver compared to last year. It was more like a Max onboard.

  • @samhenriques4462

    @samhenriques4462

    2 ай бұрын

    @@AgainstWokeness yes he went around the double left at the end of sector 2 so fast I think it was faster than max

  • @nahuelcarrizo308
    @nahuelcarrizo3082 ай бұрын

    damn wind, I really wanted to see how much faster S1 would have been...

  • @sherlockholmes7630
    @sherlockholmes76302 ай бұрын

    Look at the T5 speeds from 23 & 24. It is a big difference.

  • @liambrowning6962

    @liambrowning6962

    2 ай бұрын

    Better high-speed cornering performance and better straight-line speed in 23. Curious.

  • @antonfloor344
    @antonfloor3442 ай бұрын

    On the straight that 2023 car is a rocket

  • @JotaV2502

    @JotaV2502

    2 ай бұрын

    Rain setup this year, compromised a lot

  • @IzakiAkanami
    @IzakiAkanami2 ай бұрын

    I wanna see a comparison between Max's lap and Checo's lap, because that was actually magical

  • @hunterdanton3752
    @hunterdanton37522 ай бұрын

    There was def more on the table he was right

  • @y00t00b3r
    @y00t00b3r2 ай бұрын

    What's with the blur effect at 2:27 ?

  • @Fail84-nv7qh
    @Fail84-nv7qh2 ай бұрын

    I did believe Max’s radio saying he could’ve done better in his lap in 2024 and I’m talking about his final sector. All quali he EXCELLED at getting a lot of lap time there, except for his final run in Q3. Still though. Still Suzuka is turning into one of Max’s best in the calendar.

  • @SynisterGatess07
    @SynisterGatess072 ай бұрын

    what's the name of the music you use in yoru videos please ?

  • @D4viZINvlr
    @D4viZINvlr2 ай бұрын

    fun fact: It's literally the same lap, however with a different car, max brakes exactly at the same point on both laps and accelerates exactly at the same point on both laps

  • @Warlock2212
    @Warlock22122 ай бұрын

    T5 in 2023 was incredible.

  • @DonLee1980
    @DonLee19802 ай бұрын

    the straight line speeds for 2024 are so much slower everywhere, but faster lap time overall.

  • @chookchack

    @chookchack

    2 ай бұрын

    It’s just a compromise in set up.

  • @JotaV2502

    @JotaV2502

    2 ай бұрын

    Rain setup

  • @cacahuatesmods
    @cacahuatesmods2 ай бұрын

    can you please compare checo's lap and max's lap (q3 second run) from this year?

  • @mizvnkb
    @mizvnkb2 ай бұрын

    Why does 2023 sound so crispy

  • @kento6201
    @kento62012 ай бұрын

    We would want to see a comparison of Alonso and Stroll during Q1. Please hit like to support guys 💪🏿💪🏿

  • @sirmounted8499

    @sirmounted8499

    2 ай бұрын

    that would be funny

  • @kento6201

    @kento6201

    2 ай бұрын

    @@sirmounted8499 Aston needs a driver upgrade.

  • @KeVsPIXEL
    @KeVsPIXEL2 ай бұрын

    And then Max is like "It was alright.... I could have done better." 😂

  • @shannonrobson2237
    @shannonrobson22372 ай бұрын

    It was only in the last 3 corners that made the difference.. and this cannot be a good comparison because of many factors that could have made the difference

  • @jonybtw
    @jonybtw2 ай бұрын

    how does he get the telemetry?

  • @branislav7651
    @branislav76512 ай бұрын

    Sebastian Vettel lap is insane

  • @emsan54
    @emsan542 ай бұрын

    Considering he had some tenths left in 2024 lap, we can safely say RB20 is faster than RB19 by 1s aprox. Adrian Newey simply nailed those regulations. If, by any mistake, RB will let him go, they will stop winning. End of disscussion.

  • @thedailygrind8
    @thedailygrind82 ай бұрын

    can you do a Max vs Checo lao analysis?

  • @andrearancan9214
    @andrearancan92142 ай бұрын

    Last year cars went with a lower downforce setup, expecially Red Bull. T1 was slower because of this reason and T2 and T3 were massively quicker because of this reason and cars being generally faster. Perez last year was 0,5s off Verstappen in T1, this year was only few cents off. This is due to RB 20 having much better rear stability but also Red Bull going with a medium-high downforce setup. Verstappen best quality is being good in high speed with an unstable rear end. If you add downforce his strenght is less visible (similar to Leclerc).

  • @ipo7596
    @ipo75962 ай бұрын

    Singapore is gonna be good

  • @SiMeTiMe
    @SiMeTiMe2 ай бұрын

    i knew this vid was coming, because you know your shit!

  • @silverberrymoonglade55
    @silverberrymoonglade552 ай бұрын

    According to f1tempo, Perez managed 270 kph in degner 1. Do you have the telemetry data to confirm this?

  • @AgainstWokeness

    @AgainstWokeness

    2 ай бұрын

    I looked at the lap through F1Multiviewer's telemetry tool and it is true.

  • @silverberrymoonglade55

    @silverberrymoonglade55

    2 ай бұрын

    That's crazy, Perez really improved massively this weekend compared to last season in suzuka.

  • @AgainstWokeness

    @AgainstWokeness

    2 ай бұрын

    @@silverberrymoonglade55 Yeah, from 8 tenths back to nearly half a tenth is insane. I watched his laps of 2023 and 2024 side by side, it was like seeing a completely different driver

  • @syauqimuhammadnurfikriisla1119
    @syauqimuhammadnurfikriisla11192 ай бұрын

    1:27 was possible I think. Max wasn't perfect yesterday, He was so close compared to Check this year

  • @coso7215
    @coso72152 ай бұрын

    He Is doing the same steering imputs

  • @BillyRicker92
    @BillyRicker922 ай бұрын

    Max has been driving like a super sayian!

  • @AgainstWokeness

    @AgainstWokeness

    2 ай бұрын

    Only 0.066 ahead of Perez. Calm down

  • @fortunasp5391

    @fortunasp5391

    2 ай бұрын

    @@AgainstWokenessIt’s not just speed kid. Consistency too

  • @Klarote
    @Klarote2 ай бұрын

    Can you compare Hamilton and Verstappen quali laps ? In reference to Hamilton's "where's that half a second ?"

  • @K0KUSHIBOU
    @K0KUSHIBOU2 ай бұрын

    Max Verstappen 2024: "my bad, could make a better lap" 🦁🇳🇱

  • @yaseenahmed9899
    @yaseenahmed98992 ай бұрын

    Max’s 2023 T5 still holding up….

  • @MrJeanjean2009
    @MrJeanjean20092 ай бұрын

    Left is right after you eat chilly Right is right after you eat sushi

  • @syafiqurrahman418
    @syafiqurrahman4182 ай бұрын

    What happened to the grass?????

  • @ivan-pv9un
    @ivan-pv9un2 ай бұрын

    So, if it weren't for the wind, Max could probably have lowered the time of 2023 by more than 1 second.

  • @yuichi.a
    @yuichi.a2 ай бұрын

    各ポイントのスピードは2023の方が早いけど全体では2024の方が早い... って事はコーナリングお化けってことか!!

  • @MechaporcoOFICIAL
    @MechaporcoOFICIAL2 ай бұрын

    Compare 2017

  • @Landerville
    @Landerville2 ай бұрын

    slower + slower+ slower = faster 😏

  • @bjhbjhbjhweeee
    @bjhbjhbjhweeee2 ай бұрын

    im scared really

  • @quentinhirschfeld9382
    @quentinhirschfeld93822 ай бұрын

    Last year's car had a better set up for Max even though it was slower (impressive that they gained 6 tenths in 6 months with worse track conditions) You can see in the final sector and also at the exit of spoon, that Max had tons of understeer today, which he hates and Chéco love. When the car will be a little bit more oversteer, like he prefer, he will destroy Chéco again, this is hardly encouraging for Pérez, just shows he's still slower even with a car that has the right set up for him.

  • @ibrahimalatrash8008

    @ibrahimalatrash8008

    2 ай бұрын

    Bros fluent in yapanise 💀💀💀💀

  • @AgainstWokeness

    @AgainstWokeness

    2 ай бұрын

    Excuses. Every time Checo is close to Verstappen there is an excuse. Stop glazing Verstappen all the time, Perez drove extremely well today.

  • @quentinhirschfeld9382

    @quentinhirschfeld9382

    2 ай бұрын

    @@AgainstWokeness So, in your world, making an analysis is making excuses? I'm stating what i'm stating because i think it's fun to share hindsight and having technical discussions with other fans, it's also a way for myself to make a prediction, Verstappen is going to destroy Pérez once again this season (he's already doing it anyway) after he found the right set up, that's it. Verstappen has an early turn in and likes a pointy car, every knowledgeable fans are aware of this, while Chéco prefer understeer as it helps him balancing the rear on the car. Just shows you the difference between a good driver and a great driver.

  • @quentinhirschfeld9382

    @quentinhirschfeld9382

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ibrahimalatrash8008 What was wrong with my comment?

  • @b_g
    @b_g2 ай бұрын

    No funny hud this year?

  • @MuhammadNiz007
    @MuhammadNiz0072 ай бұрын

    To be honest with you this isn't a massive improvement like we saw with Merc when they brought W11 compared to W10 which was 1s faster so kind of a disappointment to be honest with you to see only 6 tenths improvement in winter and then two massive upgrades in one in Bahrain race 1 and than suzuka

  • @JotaV2502

    @JotaV2502

    2 ай бұрын

    Are you slow? Suzuka was late in the season and now it's early so only 6 months apart, yesterday was raining and compromised the setup and track condition, the wind was much worse in 2024

  • @randomchannel-px6ho
    @randomchannel-px6ho2 ай бұрын

    I am getting sick of Max not even throwing together perfect laps and getting pole. He's the best driver on the grid right now absolutely, but he also by far has the best machine and it's getting boring

  • @AgainstWokeness

    @AgainstWokeness

    2 ай бұрын

    In all fairness even in 2022 and 2023 Leclerc wasn't doing perfect laps either and got a lot of poles. It isn't easy to do a perfect lap with the ground effect cars.

  • @kristoffer3000

    @kristoffer3000

    2 ай бұрын

    He's throwing together better laps than the rest of the grid and the car isn't that much faster, if it was Perez would be p2 every race instead of a midfield driver

  • @Explorer_1997
    @Explorer_19972 ай бұрын

    Please adjust the graphics in the video for better experience 🤌🏻

  • @dorajeshotmailcom
    @dorajeshotmailcom2 ай бұрын

    It could be very interesting a Verstappen 2024 vs Vettel 2019 Suzuka laps

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