This is a beautiful thing to watch.

She explained each function with such care.

I learned that ASMR affecionados cherish this interview with Susan Kare. They say it's one of the proto-ASMR examples along with Bob Ross.

@codix__

11 ай бұрын

The moment when she types on the keyboard, damn.

@luizarthurbrito

6 ай бұрын

It's just perfection

Here in 2023. It's amazing to see how far technology has come. This video is gold .

@ulrichhauser-ehninger7669

8 ай бұрын

Actually, it's about 40 years later and still MS word cannot cope with huge documents, handle proper placement of images, cannot reliably set cross references, is a bibliography nightmare. Go back again 40 years and you are in 1944. Look at what emerged between then and 1984. It looks like we slowed down a lot since then.

@RangaTurk

3 ай бұрын

But the first ten years of Macintosh 1976-1986 (Apple II to Macintosh Plus) were way beyond Alan Turing and Colossus. Look at the graphics on the demo programs on the Macintosh.@@ulrichhauser-ehninger7669

@RangaTurk

3 ай бұрын

Whoops I meant the first ten years of Apple.

@Terp311

9 күн бұрын

Sure I guess so

Susan Kare is an absolute legend

All of which we very much take for granted today

I would have been begging my parents to get me a Mac in 1984 had I seen this as a kid 40 years ago. Note the date on the Control Panel: March 14! (Happy Pi Day) I agree with the ASMR fans, this is relaxing to listen to. Susan Kare is a legend.

I remember begging my parents for this. I was obsessed with HyperCard.

This is groundbreaking stuff for the time. This is almost 2 years priors to the release of Windows 1.0 and still to this day represents the way we work mostly with a computer to this day (files system, move and drag, mouse interaction, double clicks, etc.).

@medes5597

10 ай бұрын

It's almost 7 years after Smalltalk and over a decade after the mother of all demos.

@ralfvanbogaert3451

9 ай бұрын

I'm not so impressed, personally. Only one year later, the first Amiga model came out, and blew the Mac clean out of the water in every possible regard, while costing a whole lot less. This thing was practically useless out-of-the-box, unless you invested even more money in an expensive RAM upgrade.

@medes5597

9 ай бұрын

@@ralfvanbogaert3451 problem - it came out after Atari's TOS and no matter how much you try, they both came after and drew heavily from Apples efforts. Even if I agree with you about the Mac, it doesn't change that people were copying the concepts that were popularised (although mostly not originated) by Apples efforts in the GUI front. And the things Amiga did differently (using a workbench metaphor for file systems for example) didn't catch on. Having said that it was still superior. It just came after.

@ralfvanbogaert3451

9 ай бұрын

@@medes5597 It came out after TOS because Tramiel rushed the ST to market to pre-empt the Amiga after he failed to get the rights to the chipset. It can't be denied that the Mac popularised the mouse-driven GUI, but let's face it, it's a pretty crappy, hugely overpriced, almost gimped computer that was next to worthless without additional upgrades.

@theserpentes

6 ай бұрын

@@ralfvanbogaert3451 I don't give high praise for the Macintosh itself. The Smalltalk itself was already excellent demonstration, and it is understandable how Jobs was totally taken by it, and rushed Lisa to come with GUI just six months before release. That is the feat, in six months to turn the text interface system to have graphical interface on it. Now what the Xerox did with the Xerox Star, that is impressive. as they polished very much about the Xerox Alto. But regarding how PARC did all kind innovations and Xerox chief of staff didn't recognize and utilize those, that was massive mistake... It is like the Gary Kildall postponing the IBM deal because his wife's birthday was on that day the IBM wanted the meeting to get CP/M to IBM PC, and as meeting wasn't possible, IBM walked to Microsoft. It is just sad irony that she later divorced him, after he even put her birthdays ahead the company he so much loved. (Tell a lot about some women anyways). The PARC was as well very heavily restricted to the Xerox main business, photocopiers and scanners. Why they had that mentality from the begin that how computers work with the GUI they created. Like the document creation where to insert a graphic/picture to document, you did it with same process as you did it with the physical paper. Transferring the image from one paper to another using specific tool. Or like the screen was made vertical so that you can have a 1:1 letter on screen as on paper at hand. That was its curse as was for its major benefit! And that is the greatness in the Apple design, that they were never restricted to that "old business" mentality. Why Apple made their work process far more smooth and easier, like how you could just copy the image from anywhere, and paste it to word processor at any given position and it came there, without requiring you to prepare the area first in document, and then transfer the image to that area. Those couple extra steps that Xerox Star required was result from the too analogy thinking process. Where at Apple they really could just skip and ignore that and make it easier and nicer. I have the Atari ST 520 running in perfect condition from its time, 1985. Even when it has just 512 Kb of memory, it is very capable machine for its time, considering that Macintosh came out year before. The GEM was IMHO ahead of the Apple, and there are some small nice features too. Why it is totally understandable why Apple wanted to kill it, and why in GEM 2.0 the resizable and movable windows were removed and no more overlapping. Basically killing it on that spot. These years from mid 70's to late 80's were the golden era of computing, that was when the computer technology was defined and developed to be even today. After that everything is just smoothing these small things and make it somewhat better, and manyways even worse. Like today I finished 32 page presentation file, and it is even today way too complicated than what it should really be about for casual users. When you know the applications, it is easy. But seeing how many is constantly failing to make good presentations and so on push forward with their ideas, it is not odd that it can really be sourced to these tiny details like how to get the file on the slide, or how to get the slide in 16:9 instead 4:3 ratio etc. And talk about getting it as PDF and printed even.. There is so much tiny paper cuts all over the applications that you do not expect the casual users anymore really want to learn them. Simply saying, way too much features...

A disservice to society that this was rushed. Imagine if we had long format interviews back around these times…

Hard to believe this doesn't have more views or likes! Makes me want to break out my old Mac Plus.

@algoboi

Жыл бұрын

how much for the Mac Plus?

@DocNo27

Жыл бұрын

@@algoboi That one will never sell. Indeed I have a brand new in the box motherboard as well as analog board if I ever need them :)

It's incredible that nearly 40 years later the UI of the Mac remains relatively unchanged.

@tycooperaow

Жыл бұрын

Longevity

@imstevencraig

Жыл бұрын

It is, as a result of her groundbreaking work. Shame they removed scrapbook tho.

@domigi5425

11 ай бұрын

And I llike it that way, I know where everything is without actually knowing it xD

@katherandefy

10 ай бұрын

Also the same is true of Windows which is software built much the same way as Mac software.

@zedsdeadbaby

9 ай бұрын

Stagnant for 40 years you mean

Susan is an OG Genius! I was surprised to see she wasn't alone when her colleague Jerry Manock popped up. 6:00 He must be the first man in the history of computers NOT TO take over and MANSPLAIN THINGS.

Amazing. I love how she explains things. Thanks for sharing!

Thank you for inventing those lovely icons ))

why on earth was this gem cropped from 4:3 to 16:9?!

There were other graphical user interfaces in the 80s that used similar concepts here, such as GEM, Workbench, GEOS and of course Windows (which ironically Susan Care also designed icons for in the early 90s with Windows 3). Some surpassed the early Mac's Finder in ways such as colour or pre-emptive multitasking. But what they all failed at was having a user interface that was so consistent, it fooled the brain into thinking that the desktop in front of you was a real physical space with real objects, and the fourth wall (so to speak) was never broken. These other environments might have looked close to the untrained eye, but they weren't even close in practice. Even the Mac started to lose a bit of this as the years went on and their systems got more and more complicated (colour, AppleTalk networking, MultiFinder, System 7+, At Ease, OpenDoc etc).

@Scoo

7 күн бұрын

Kare was also NeXT’s creative director, we have her to thank for the lavishly illustrated NeXTStep UI well.

Awesome!!

"Wow. Someone 3D printed the 'save' icon!"

This was almost 40 years ago and time just seems wrong somehow.

I was a couple months from graduating high school.

Saw your picture at the Henry Ford museum.

Computers in the 1980's were incredibly dull. But I went to a trade school to learn programming because they taught Basic, fortran, Cobol and Pascal. And after paying all the money I found out I was no good at programming whatsoever. But it was obvious to anybody, the potential was already there for computers to be much more than the primitive devices they were - but I wasn't going to be one of the ones doing that.

I remember how fascinating and top notch tech those things looked at the shop (I couldn’t even dream of affording one). Now, watching this video in my iphone, that thing looks like a bulky and unpractical fossil 😅

This is a lot more features than what Windows Notepad has in 2023. 😂

I wish she had more time!

Those keystrokes...my god!!!

@brickingle3984

9 ай бұрын

You can tell she was practiced with a typewriter

1:15 wish my first girlfriend would have been this clear.

Bill Gates saw this and decided to co-opt the whole damn thing.

Xerox dropped the ball. This was their technology.

Hard to pinpoint but there's something savagely sensual about this woman.

@yaboyfrresh

9 ай бұрын

What do you mean

@Redstripe921

9 ай бұрын

Yep, soft, gentle, feminine

@dgrays2800

6 ай бұрын

@@documentarydetectiveiii5217 savagely?

I am not a feminist but idk why these guys hurrying her up is pissing me off. And I am borderline mysogonist.

@Speedfreely

8 ай бұрын

This was a show called computer chronicles. They had multiple guests on each show and they just needed to push through the segments.

@tristanholland6445

6 ай бұрын

It is segment for a TV show relax.

@elyuw

4 ай бұрын

He said that only because he wanted to see as much as possible from her demo in the allotted time. He's not hurrying her up to get it over with.

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