Coaching Jojo Siwa, Dance Moms, and surviving prison w/ Abby Lee Miller | Ep. 75
This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp, DoorDash, Athena Club & Huggies.
BetterHelp: Visit BetterHelp.com/unplannedpodcast today to get 10% off your first month.
DoorDash: Sign up for DashPass today and get your first 30 days free if you’re a new member. Subject to change. Terms apply.
Athena Club: Head over to AthenaClub.com to try their already-affordable Razor Kit for 30% off with code UNPLANNED at checkout.
Huggies: Learn more at Huggies.com. Once again, head to Huggies.com to learn more.
BUY OUR MERCH!! unplannedpodcast.com
@therealabbyleemiller Abby Lee Miller from "Dance Moms" opens up about her journey from the beginnings of the Abby Lee Dance Company, her relationship with Jojo Siwa, being sentenced to a year and a day in prison, to her battle with cancer. Don't miss this candid and powerful conversation!
Guest's IG: / therealabbylee
Listen to Matt's new song "unfollow me" here:
song.link/i/1735174500
Follow Matt on Spotify:
open.spotify.com/artist/13zOf...
Follow The Unplanned Podcast:
/ unplanned__podcast
/ unplanned_podcast
Listen to the pod on Spotify/ Apple Podcasts:
open.spotify.com/show/1ToDA4u...
podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Follow Matt & Abby:
Abby's Instagram | / abbyelizabethoward
Matt's Instagram | / _matt_howard_
TikTok | / matt_and_abby
Facebook | / mattandabb
KZread | / @mattandabby
Chapters:
00:00 - Episode 75
06:27 - How Dance Moms started
09:48 - Declaring bankruptcy
14:19 - Abby’s toughness wasn't fake
20:33 - My first impression of Jojo Siwa
23:23 - Coaching Jojo Siwa
26:25 - My criminal trial
34:47 - Abby Lee Miller's first day in prison
47:50 - Getting diagnosed with cancer
49:35 - Undergoing cancer treatment
58:36 - What's next for Abby Lee Miller?
1:03:31 - The reality of working on Dance Moms
1:05:43 - I don’t make money on reruns
#unplannedpodcast #mattandabby
Пікірлер: 509
Not Abby interviewing Matt and Abby 💀
@user-bg6cf3ie1t
16 күн бұрын
I am literally telling myself the same thing !!!!!
@bkessinger94
16 күн бұрын
Right?!?!
Ain’t no way y’all got Abby Lee Miller 💀
@Nothingstutube
17 күн бұрын
Clearly there is a way 😅
@EverythingwithEmily
17 күн бұрын
Right! What did they have to pay her cuz she didnt even know who they are lol
@kacyselje1714
17 күн бұрын
And they said they just dm people to get guests on the show 😂
@JordyB652
16 күн бұрын
I was thinking the same thing when I first seen this 😂😂
@josephsims9494
16 күн бұрын
What you think she a hologram ?
I have never heard someone praise themself so much 😂
@sarahjohnson-n9w
15 күн бұрын
for real no humility.
@Truechildofgod
13 күн бұрын
bro 😭
@jasmynes7977
12 күн бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@ADRI1LOVESYOU
11 күн бұрын
No but like if you were her and had her success you would too
@Truechildofgod
11 күн бұрын
@@ADRI1LOVESYOU abby we know this is your burner account.
“maddie is in it for two seconds and cries and that’s it”💀💀💀💀
Abby "let ME interview these two" 🤣
The amount of influential people you guys get on these podcasts is crazy!
@melisa8256
17 күн бұрын
😂
@sarahwilliams924
16 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@frosinicapandispan5534
14 күн бұрын
They're in the same club, just smoke and mirrors.
I appreciate that you guys seek to have a variety of guests from all over on your podcast. Here’s what I got from this interview. This woman is very impressed by herself. She’s got a long way to go.
@debfox
12 күн бұрын
I don’t appreciate it. Imagine them allowing their boys to be abused by her. She’s vile and doesn’t think she needs to change.
Golly she really takes all the credit for her success and blames everyone else for her failures. Doesn’t pay the “school tax” for three years then blames the bank and “the sheriff’s daughter” for declaring bankruptcy. Says “I’m the ones that made all these girls and boys famous, it was all me, and I never got the credit for it” without giving any credit at all to how hard these children worked, never compliments them on achieving their dreams. Throws herself in as much glory as possible then says it’s her lawyers fault that it all went away. What a nasty person.
@jukihiw
16 күн бұрын
SHE WANTED AN EMMY SHUT UP. Calling herself a Disney Princess
@michellenicole9499
16 күн бұрын
Totally agree with you! This woman gives me the creeps. I was looking forward to Matt and Abby’s next episode and I see this woman on? I can’t watch this episode anymore 😒
@nicolecorsillo
16 күн бұрын
I agree!! The most self centered person I’ve ever seen!!!
@jukihiw
16 күн бұрын
@@michellenicole9499 I will give Matt and Abby credit-you could see the life leaving their eyes as the “interview” aka Abby blabbing on about herself being next to godliness, kept going. At the end they didn’t say more than “uh huh” and “oh yeah” lol.
@cookno3
16 күн бұрын
I’m only 6 minutes in, this is hard to listen to!
As a wheelchair user everything she stated regarding ADA issues is 100000% correct it is definitely insane
So much bragging and so many self-serving, random stories that are pointless in the conversation.
@michaela7008
16 күн бұрын
Literally 😂
@becci2303
15 күн бұрын
Her blood pressure being 23/17 😂😂 biggest lie in history
@michaela7008
15 күн бұрын
@@becci2303 She would be ☠️☠️☠️
@becci2303
15 күн бұрын
@@michaela7008 as a medical professional when I heard her say that I was like ok bs radar going off 😂
@davidpatterson555
5 күн бұрын
@@becci2303I mean… would she even be alive if that was true?! lol.
I wonder what made Matt and Abby come to the conclusion of this collab
@gloreeuhh-
16 күн бұрын
Shock value
@b_sus87
16 күн бұрын
People are interested? Controversial figures make for the best content. We hear SO much about her, why not hear from her?
@ashleyh.2178
16 күн бұрын
Money and more views
@wellhowthehellareya
16 күн бұрын
Why not?
@user-ms3wj3ek4t
16 күн бұрын
One of the best podcasts they’ve done.
It’s all about her. Still fighting to make it known “Look what I did. This is how great I am. I was the best of the best! I made them great/famous!” 🤮
@yvonne8786
16 күн бұрын
Take a drink everytime she says I 🥴🥴🥴
@teagan2741
16 күн бұрын
@@yvonne8786ooh fun game!!
I like this kind of podcast. Nobody truly expected Abby as a guest. No matter what peoples opinions, bash and disrespect anyone in a way of the past experience, there still is someone’s own story to something. Abby has explained more in this podcast, than I think she ever has in the past about her jail time, cancer, bankruptcy. I never knew her dad was involved with the Dance Studio. I think this has came in many differently directions; but I truly think it gives people a different perspective, picture of Abby Lee Miller. I am not saying that I support her in a way but definitely a different perspective.
@alexefontaine7782
12 күн бұрын
I 100000% agree!!
She’s like a sociopath
You should have Christi from dance moms on!!! ❤
@Smiley_d12
12 күн бұрын
YESSSSSS
@elaineheath5226
12 күн бұрын
Yes, & Kelly!
@davidpatterson555
5 күн бұрын
Christi and Kelly YES!!! I don’t even watch the show that much but I know these two are absolute legends!
The way she speaks, jumping around in the conversation, dramatic claims, irrelevant stories… it reminds me of my aunt with bipolar disorder. She doesn’t seem entirely mentally healthy.
@davidpatterson555
5 күн бұрын
I don’t think she is, tbh! I don’t think she was mentally healthy before everything that happened to her… prison, being confined to a wheelchair… and after all of that it just got even worse
I feel like Abby and Matt were slightly intimidated by THE abby lee miller 😊
@jens9613
11 күн бұрын
I would be too and I’m 50! Dang. But I’m a former dancer and was obsessed with her show.
When I saw that they got Abby Lee Miller I was lowkey concerned but why was it kinda entertaining 😭
THE WAY I CLICKED SO FAST… WHAT!!
@emmabinges
16 күн бұрын
same lol!
I’m ten minutes in and man I just feel like I’m listening to some washed up drunk woman rambling on and on about nonsense. How did Abby and Matt sit through this entire interview?!? So painful!
The way I was shocked seeing this. I can’t believe how big the podcast has gotten!!!
@katerilickona5345
17 күн бұрын
Or how not big Abby Lee has gotten….
@DAYANA-RAMIREZ11
16 күн бұрын
@@katerilickona5345that wild
@anierodriguez523
16 күн бұрын
@@katerilickona5345eh…
@thirtysomething4532
3 күн бұрын
@@katerilickona5345 lol right. Probably the only people who wanted to interview her
The way Abby got scared at 38:30 when Matt admits he’s confused and Abby Miller starts saying “No no no no no no noooo”😣 I’d be scared too.
@nikistracener7772
15 күн бұрын
Why? I’m confused lol sorry
Narcissism’s a helluva thing.
GET THE WHOLE DANCE MOM CAST!!!! PLEASE IT WOULD MEAN EVERYTHING TO MEEE!!!!! 😭 😭😭
People complaining about this but you can’t tell me you don’t watch dance moms for the drama come onnnn 😂
@zoepeters3826
17 күн бұрын
I can. Never watched it in my life and never would. The clips I saw were terrible (both the coach and the parents).
@jazzabelleftk
16 күн бұрын
Believe it or not, there are plenty of people who (when they realise how damaging something is) CAN and do stop giving it views and money. Matt and abby platforming Abby is so problematic i don't even know where to start
@b_sus87
16 күн бұрын
@@zoepeters3826she’s not saying everyone watches it… shes saying for those that DO watch, it’s for the drama 🙃
@b_sus87
16 күн бұрын
@@jazzabelleftkif someone is problematic, the more they speak the more others will see that. Cancel culture is the problem, bc it screams “this person is bad, take my word for it,” which will naturally make people more curious, driving them TO the person who’s been de-platformed…
@charly2542
16 күн бұрын
I mean okayyyy… but Abby Lee miller?! She’s awesome- she speaks about how the show WANTED her to be that way. She’s super successful, but yeah I have every respect for Abby and Matt for doing this interview it’s awesome! 😂😊
Now you have to have some of the dancers on to get their perspectives
Who else finds this so interesting
@samu-chan
14 күн бұрын
what’s interesting about it? it’s brain dead content
@sharonmartin1223
14 күн бұрын
I find it really Interesting..Those kids owe her a lot
Ive never given Matt a compliment, but he is an excellent interviewer.
@Bri-hp4sx
14 күн бұрын
Definitely is!
Matt has shoes on and feet on floor for this one. 😂
@bootsnmascara9038
15 күн бұрын
Hes probably getting sick of all the jokes and comments every time he let's his bare feet dangle during a video 😂
@tamarathomas2789
10 күн бұрын
Lol he didn’t want to take any chances with Abby 😂
btw this haircut is the best one Matt’s had yet! Seriously
@dianacooper-havlik4115
12 күн бұрын
Agreed😊
Next thing you know it, Matt and Abby are gonna interview Obama 😔
@Lucy-tl3ed
14 күн бұрын
Obama would never
She needs the Lord. She’s all about self and has such an edge. She doesn’t seem to have any peace and joy in her life. You guys must have been stressed interviewing her…she’s a bit scary 😳
Never expected to see this collab
I mean, Maddie is in West Side Story for more than two seconds and cries lol. She actually has a named role and she’s a featured dancer, she has lines and everything lol
Matt is so outgoing and abby is so kind y’all are the best parents to griffin and auggie they r the cutest
I love how much they’re buying into this
@tamarathomas2789
10 күн бұрын
I assumed they were just being nice 🤷🏽♀️😂
This woman has single handedly ruined dance for tens of thousands of young kids. Why would you give her the time of day?
@dolliedennon6513
17 күн бұрын
😅She has single handedly launched THOUSANDS of wildly successful kids and young adults, into world wide careers of their dreams!
@nicholetoops5208
17 күн бұрын
@dolliedennon6513 and how many of those kids are in therapy or how many of those kids have to take anxiety pills or quit dancing all together Abby lee Miller needs to be put in prison for the way she treated those little girl some one needs to treat her the way she treated those girls
@sutherlandbrook3205
17 күн бұрын
@@nicholetoops5208weren’t you listening lol.. she DID go to jail for how she treated the kids… they used Other charges to put her there, but that’s why they wanted to punish her.
@TommyStubbs
16 күн бұрын
@@dolliedennon6513 thousands???? she even said herself in the first couple of minutes she had 30 kids on broadway (impressive) but certainly not thousands lol
@hannahcampbell8196
15 күн бұрын
@@nicholetoops5208most of these kids probably would have ended up in therapy, on anxiety meds and/or quitting dancing anyway. That's just life. Not trying to defend her actions but that's putting A LOT of blame on ALM.
You guys should interview Jenelle Evans from Teen Mom 2. Don't forget to talk about Kiefer if you do. 😂
@b_sus87
16 күн бұрын
YESSSS!!!
@DivineSparkStudios
16 күн бұрын
Yessss!!!
@alexis_253
16 күн бұрын
Yes please!!
@larac.8797
15 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
My past dance instructor met Abby Lee Miller at a competition years back and she is not a very nice person. She started criticizing other dance teams to the coaches’ faces. Based on how she’s acted towards girls on and off screen, you guys should not have had her on your podcast. Her treatment of dancers and even parents and other instructors is less than stellar.
@laurenskee2665
16 күн бұрын
You know reality TV isn't real, right? You don't know this person just because you watched the show. 😂
@Ivy-up7hx
16 күн бұрын
I trust my dance instructor who is a wonderful lady over someone who yelled at kids on a show for money and who was jailed.
As parents you would have thought better than to have a child abuser on your podcast im not even american and have heard all about her mis treatment of kids
Mad respect for having Abby on, despite knowing people would be mad about it. I for one enjoy hearing from controversial guests sometimes… what many need to understand is that “problematic” people will out themselves. Sometimes you have to give them the rope, not take it away. Great episode, it was very enlightening
Her story about the friend in prison giving her Nike’s because her boots gave her blisters doesn’t make sense. Why would the girl give her shoes if she could easily buy them herself? Abby Lee Miller had friends that were giving her money while she was in prison and her friend that “gave her these shoes” had to work hard for her money. A lot of times sounds like she’s twisting stories or just straight up lying.
@melamorgan3433
13 күн бұрын
I have talked to someone in a Michigan prison and their stay is not this posh. They only get to spend $130 every other week on supplies and snacks and they can not get nikes in there. There is an app they go to and can only order what it has on it. The prison she was in must be a more laxed one. I'm not here to judge but I think each State must have its own standards on how theirs is run
@kashkelly1508
11 күн бұрын
It’s not like she can just buy them herself. Doesn’t matter how much money you have in prison, you can only spend so much and depends on the prison- you can usually only wear the ones the prison has unless you have something wrong with you that allows you to wear your own shoes and everyone wants those shoes. Everyone wants anything g different than what you can get on commissary.
Watching Matt support (his wife) Abby during this interview was so sweet. Hand holding, hand on her knee…knowing she has strong opinions but was being professional
There's a lot of "I" when Abbey talks. Lol
Abby said.. no one ever asks me about myself, let me tell you everything even when y’all didn’t ask
Honestly, this is disgusting. All she do is blame everyone else for her actions. If NO ONE of the kids came to see you at the hospital, maybe you should reconsider what you did. “I guess everyone uses everyone”, seriously Abby? Have you not heard any other interview that’s not JoJo’s? What about Chloe? Making fun of her eye. Or Brooke and Paige, constantly telling them they’re mediocre. What about your racist comments on Nia, Camryn, Kamryn and Adrianna of S8? What about calling the kids fat, washed up and lazy slugs? Listen, I’m truly sorry of what you went through, diseases is a not something you wish to somebody. I’m glad you came to the other side healthy and cancer free, but, like you said, you have learned nothing. They left you because you hurt them. You hurt them so bad that still today, 13 years later, they’re still healing. You only care about yourself, and you know what? That’s ok, but don’t pretend you cared about those kids, because you don’t. If that were the case, maybe they wouldn’t left the ALDC and have no contact with you. And as far as you guys, being parents and have this woman who abused kids and scar them for life on your podcast is disgusting. Being a great teacher is not only having the best technique, but also being the one who is always there for their students.
@cvera__
8 күн бұрын
100%
Wow!! This collab gives you such a crazy perspective of how influential youtubers truly are
People are very quick to judge Abby, who is portraying the antagonist in the REALITY TV show (when is this ever real), but what about the moms who subjected their children to this for years? I understand Abby was mean but the moms let it happen, got in constant arguments in front of their kids, and kept resigning the contracts.
@BrittneyBerkhahn
14 күн бұрын
exactly! I think most people don't like her because she's "mean," but there's some parents that send their kids to these camps for "bad" children??
@Home_Again_Aldc
5 күн бұрын
They signed a contract for the SHOW that was 6 years so they had to keep signing the contracts for her STUDIO
I screamed my head off when I saw this 😂
I literally yelled “WHHHAAAAATTTT” when I saw this pop up
From the LaBrant Fam to Brooklyn and Bailey, and now Abby Lee Miller.
Interesting choice for a guest. It seems Abby Lee Miller has a very high opinion of herself, while also playing the victim role very well.
The way my mouth dropped when I saw Abby. Never expected this one 😆
This is the first podcast I listened for about 20 minutes and turned it off I couldn’t even get through it and the brutal messages she’s sending children in sports, athletics, dance, art etc And she managed to blame her dying dad, a sheriffs wife, a misplaced bill in the first ten minutes of what lead to her issues and took no accountability This was a tough watch for the first 20 minutes and I can’t waste another second on it
Only 13 mins in and have clocked so many lies from Abby lmao (or... at least her side of the story differs YUGELY from the Moms experience lol)
She is complaining about everything and taking responsibility for nothing thing. Very annoying.
This was the most uncomfortable interview I have watched
Bro, no way you got Abby Lee Miller
when she started interviewing Matt I lost it 🤣
Did notttt see this guest coming 😂😂
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTT ABBY LEE MILLER??????? I LOVE THIS
you lost me with this one...giving such a person a platform. As parents you should have better judgement.
Thank you for this!!❤
She was horrible to those kids. Stop.
@yvonne8786
16 күн бұрын
I agree
@charly2542
16 күн бұрын
Move along then 🥲
@yvonne8786
16 күн бұрын
@@charly2542 free speech..don't like it.....Move along from America
@kathleenclark815
16 күн бұрын
@@charly2542 Did you watch that show?? I feel sorry for your kids if you think she treated those kids right. And how ironic that your pfp says "be kind" lol
@charly2542
16 күн бұрын
@@kathleenclark815 always be kind x
Abby's version of the way the show started is VERY DIFFERENT then the producers/creators/ moms story- and she always complains that she didn't get to pick the music/story of the dances. Such 💩 coming out her mouth 😂
@pepsi8967
16 күн бұрын
She plays victim well lol
@amandamandamands
11 күн бұрын
Yes even when Abby had a producer on her podcast he was pushing back against her version of how the show started, especially the part about how they didn't dance as a part of the audition process, that they just had a sit down interview. As he said they danced as a part of their audition tape, it seems like to her the whole audition process was the sit down interviews that they did in her studio.
This was not in my bingo card for 2024
This is one of my favorite podcast episodes yet. I love how you guys are interacting with other influencers. It’s so fun seeing Collabs like this.
Im just shook over here. This was fun guys. 😂 id love to hear matt and abbys convo after this lots to unpack.
Yesssss yall be knowing what yall doing
Never even heard of thos lady before this episode and after listening to her for a half hour, I'm glad. It's all about poor me.
In case you weren't sure how spectacular and fabulous Abby Lee Miller feels she is, she will sit you down and tell you. She doesn't seem to have self esteem issues. Good for her for being her own cheerleader. Sending love from Los Angeles 💜💛
@user-vu2dm8xp8j
15 күн бұрын
Um wrong
SO EXCITED TO WATCH!!!
Love it that she always blames others for her Mistakes 🙄
Yasss for Abby Lee Miller . Part of of this interview I was like “ go off Abby “ Other parts I’m like “ girl whatttt👀 GREAT JOB GUYS🤍✨
I've never seen Dance Moms, but the Dance Moms memes are hilarious.
I love the way the podcast is evolving great guest!! I look forward to seeing your podcast episodes every Wednesday! Lysm Matt & Abby!❤❤
Vote for addie and Braddy to be in podcast with rustyn of course
😂😂😂😂😂 This is wild!!!
Very interesting guest, thanks for having her! Love the podcast you both get some really great guests that aren't all about KZread I love that and would love to see you branch out even more! much love from eastern Canada.
Also like is no one talking abt how freaking big Abby’s ring is 😂😂
Now you gotta get Jojo Siwa on! She has her number!!! This is crazy the connections!
@laurenskee2665
16 күн бұрын
No.
“Fuuuuun….Sweeeeeet” Abby needs to work on interview responses.
This podcast is awesome! So glad everyone I listen in it gets better and better! Thanks Matt and Abby for getting all this awesome people on the podcast!!
Abby is such a liar it’s crazy
Love it , some people love her some hate her. I think it is wonderful to hear about her life from her without someone hating on her.
Matt & Abby I love this podcast so much. The Muny, Mark Krupinski, St Louis! I know and love them all! I loved the Muny days!
Abby lee CANNOT take credit for Jojo… that girl was a fire cracker before she even knew what dance moms was She would of made it either way
I love Abby, she’s so intimidating and sweet at the same time, she’s one of those people who you would be horrified of but love at the same time!!!🫶🫶
What happens when the people you think would show up don't is you learn that a small circle is way better than a big one. Because then you know really who your true friends are and who will always have your back.
Omggg I am living for this guest !!
Y’all get the craziest guests. I’m blown away everytime!
This is a really good intro!
I am sat for this!
I’m happy she shed some light on her experience with going through the airport as a disabled person. This isnt talked about enough.
Gosh I am such a theatre kid because I am freaking out with all the shows Abby mentions and the Muny mentioned such a great podcast
I cant stand Abbey. She was so mean. Looks like karma is cruel.
As an interior designer, the way no one really complies with the ADA is insane to me!!
The way I GASPED when I saw that y’all had THE Abby Lee Miller on!!🤯👏🏻
abby looks so scared of abby lmao
Not my cup of tea! Are you going to have the former dancers on for equal time?! If you do not....??
@b_sus87
16 күн бұрын
Ummm they were just given an entire reunion. Are you mad at that network for not giving ALM equal time? She hardly even talked about the girls in this interview, mostly about herself.
@carolynturk-hu7je
16 күн бұрын
@@b_sus87 Just talking about this Podcast. It's nice when they have the equal time especially when Abby was talking about the former students. I do not have cable, so could care less about the network that had the reunion. Heard about it on Entertainment Tonight actually. I am not mad at all. Just wanted to put out there for their Podcast the equal time thing, that would be big for them now wouldn't it! Even though there was the reunion thing. It wasn't on their Podcast and what if just a couple of the ladies come, I think people would tune in, don't you?