I love how all these home gym owners shout each other out! I’ve been watching Coop and Brandon for years and was introduced to the garage gym lab through them and it’s so awesome to see this community growing outside of the globo gyms.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I learn a lot from others reviews/channels

I got both the high and low system early on and I never looked back. It’s been awesome. I got it because I have a very small home gym area and it was the only option I could get that made for a usable space. Highly recommend and the guys at the company are amazing as well.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

appreciate the first hand feedback!

@futbol1972

6 ай бұрын

Wjats the squatlre footage of ur gym?

Great review as always Brandon! And Jason at Surplus truly is putting out a top notch product!

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Marc!

Another great video… I definitely think that unit shines in the gym that is squeezed for space. Also, the engineering foresight to add extra room to the bolt spacing is refreshing. I saw your aggro in the background, and I can’t wait for your thoughts💪🏼💪🏼

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Lol I'll get to it eventually, hopefully not as long as it took for this video though.

Solid review as always. Nice piece of equipment and cool of you to admit you may have spoke to soon, originally. Also classy of you to give it away to someone in need!

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I prob regret a lot of the things I say :)

Been looking at one of these for a while so this is good timing.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking a look

Just got top piece delivered today. It's amazing and definately feels like a premium product.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

Proud owner of the first unit in Portugal! Having used several types of pulley systems, ranging from dedicated setups to DIY stuff, I wasn’t really expecting the UPS to be worth the investment. But, after upgrading my old budget rack that featured a built in top/bottom pulley system, and having my wife pressuring me to get a setup for her to keep doing pulley work, I ordered it from Surplus Strengh. I was confronted with a long waiting list and even tried to drop out to go get something else, but Jason contacted me directly, he was a true gentleman about it and let me have it sooner, so I agreed. I was wrong, it is totally worth it. If you like quality and awesome feel, this is as good as it gets unless you have the space and budget to go into a premium selectorized unit. Get one, really!

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the first hand feed back Paulo!

Great review! I’m predicting the contest will get a lot of entries.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure someone will complain about it :)

I have both high and low, they work great, awesome quality. What I like about this more than REP/Titan attachment towers is it leaves the back of the rack open so you can walk through the rack. I know for people that have the rack butted against a wall that doesn’t matter. But for me in my configuration I walk through often and prefer this feature.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Good call out.

One might say these pieces deliver (I will see myself out). They have about maxed out what you can do with a loading pin pulley system. I really enjoyed the analysis on these pieces man.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Philip!

Rep’s plate loaded lat low row has been a game changer. If I had a Rogue rack this would definitely be the option I go with though

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah if you have a REP rack their stuff is hard to beat.

Cool system. Thanks for the honest update.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Any time!

Just got the upper system with the upgraded aluminum pulley and is a very solid product to say the least, high quality. For those with ceiling constrains an excellent choice IMO. I had only one inch to stare so it worked great(84" ceiling). Functionally wise does what it suppose to do, 1:1 ratio is great no swing at all. Was a bit skeptical due to high price but is worth it, especially if you have space constraints for a stand alone system and of course have the money to spend. I mounted my on my RM4 Monster rack and it fits perfectly.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the detailed review!

Great review. It’s not for everyone but, it’s an incredible piece. Completely worth the cost IMO.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for chiming in!

For someone with a Rogue rack and limited space this is the best solution out there in terms of quality, looks, and function IMO. Jason is also a great guy that goes above and beyond to make sure you’re happy with the product, Surplus Strength is all around top-notch.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more!

This looks like a very nice cable pulley unit. Definitely a premium product which some might not be able to afford.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

agreed

Mine shows up tomorrow - 9 weeks and two days from order. So pumped and I know it’ll be worth the wait.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

What color?!

@tgutier214

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon standard textured black ... rogue rm4

Thanks for the review! I like how thorough it was. I wish they had better cable storage.

@clb121781

Жыл бұрын

I just loop mine a few times and over the UPS. Quick and keeps its out of the way!

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I meant to cover that in the video but forgot, whoops lol.

@clb121781

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon I’ll make sure to cover in mine 😂

Combined with the Rhino drop-in...it's pretty sweet. Took forever to get it but I really like how well it works

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Def sounds like a dope solution.

It’s the best for a rogue rack in my opinion. It has a Small footprint and it is modular, so anywhere where you have a crossmember you can set it up.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Some good points!

@carps_gym

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I was an early adopter because I hated the slinger and always wondered why they didn’t make an Monster version of the REP or Titan rear mounted system

This is the pulley equivalent of a Mutant Metals Ultimate Dip attachment. It is extremely solid and well made. Are there cheaper solutions available? Sure. But people who enjoy having nice things and are willing to put money into quality gear will find a lot of value here. This is especially useful for people squeezing racks into basements with low ceilings, as it only adds another inch or so to the overall height of a rack. I've had mine for a year, and the only drawback is that it isn't a Prime Single Stack.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Solid way to put it in perspective.

I bought mine at much lower prices before inflation hit. I love them. The UPS stays in the same spot and the lower pully is not mounted unless I am using it. I had to take the pulley wheel off one end of the UPS to get it on my rack, so that is an option for space that is less than the pulley diameter, but more than the main unit height. One improvement could be finding a way to allow it to work with both 5/8" and 1" racks. Mine is 5/8" and I do plan to upgrade to a 1" rack at some point in the future (when we build a new house).

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

appreciate the first hand feedback!

18 months is pretty quick for you 😂

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I like to take my sweet ass time.

I don’t understand people that say it’s overpriced. It’s cheaper than the plate loaded slinger and takes up zero floor space, which I had to have for my gym. I’ve had it a while now and use it multiple times weekly. NO RAGRETS! Not even 1 letter.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

A lot of people put price first, so if it's not around the price of the cheapest option, it's too pricey (which I understand).

You were correct when you said it should be about 250$... that is way overpriced..

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Honestly if you went to your local welder and asked them to make something similar, it would be more than $250 and be way worse in quality.

The UPS was made for the Rhino. It's turned my RM6 into an all in one station.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Right on!

Nice review Brandon, IMO this seems like this is the best current option for Rogue racks but the REP lat/low row is superior in many ways for rack mounted pulleys. Your Prime is just incredible, but the quality of a Bugotti and a different category.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think this is a high end "simple" solution. A rack mounted one is likely more convenient for usability (and price in some cases).

Awesome video Brandon, probably my most favorite one up to date. I was looking for a great pulley system for a while without paying 4000$. I ordered this system now, you have helped me to take my decision. Now waiting patiently to try this on. But I have a question for you…I have a Rogue RML390F falt foot, I am not sure where to install it…because I have a multigrip pullup bar, I dont have much space on the side, although that where I really want it. If I install it in the back, I need to install a crossmember in the bottom to use the low pulley, problem is: I am guessing I wont be able to push my Rogue monster flat bench all the way back…either way I need to buy a crossmember for the side or the back. So Im kinda waiting to get the system in my hand and test the best solution. Any thoughts?

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I would think for the top portion the side would be fine as your rack has the same 30" depth that mine does. The trickier part regardless is going to be mounting the lower pulley as it's meant to go on a crossmember and not the flat foot. In that case the rear might make more sense. Maybe you could buy an additional crossmember and just mount it using hitch or detent pins when you need it. That way you can quickly remove it if needed when you bench.

Man I really want to like this, especially being American made. But it’s so dang hard to pay that $800 when the Titan plate loaded tower is $499, even $399 recently when on sale. Not to mention I could probably spend about $100 on eBay to attain aluminum pulleys, plus not have any issues with plates swaying because of the guide rods. And it’s standalone so I can leave some attachments on it and it never be in the way of my rack. I really want to like this!!..but…

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

It’s understandable. You’re talking mass produced import vs hand made in USA. I think most would go for cheaper and efficient, just wanted to convey in this video that they’re high quality of young this route.

@OU-812

Жыл бұрын

Really just need the top piece. It's pretty solid and works very well. I wouldn't purchase the bottom piece but I also don't need it. I've got a landmine attachment that suffices just fine for pulls

@Xplora213

Жыл бұрын

I don’t really understand the lack of loyalty towards local made… find a welder who will ship something similar for 400-500 usd. The answer is zero. You wouldn’t work for less either.

@meisdetermined

Жыл бұрын

@@Xplora213 I hear ya but I really hate the idea of weights moving around (especially towards me lol). I would rather either make do with the Titan OR save up and get the Prime Lat pulldown with the weight stack. A good in between would be the Titan lat pulldown with 300 pound stack since it’s so close to Rogue. Instead of getting the Rogue one (at $3500?) I would opt for Prime because it’s not too much more for an elite lat pulldown that also has a functional trainer. This just doesn’t fit into anything that I would want. And I said I wanted to like it but I just don’t. That’s just me. Hopefully others think it’s amazing. I ain’t trying to stop anyone, just giving my reasons brother. I do see your point about anyone else making it for that price and that is a valid point. Cheers

@iamfuckingyourwaifuandther2743

Жыл бұрын

I got lucky and was able to use their free aluminum pulley upgrade code, so I only had to pay $15 for shipping them.

I’ve been thinking about getting the upper and lower units. I’ve been using bands for all the cable movements and while it works for me not every one that uses my rack wants to do band assisted pull-ups instead of lat pull downs, etc.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's hard to translate band tension so I prefer plate loaded or selectorized when possible.

I had one of the first run units both high and low UPS. I think it’s the best option for Rogue Racks (which I had at the time). Although if you have a REP rack, their new selectorized lat low row is probably a better value.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think if you have a rack with a bolt on solution it will likely be way more effective.

@chrisdonnell2575

9 ай бұрын

I wish there was the option with Rep to get 1:1 or 2:1 pulleys. I don't want to put 400lbs on there to only feel 200lbs! I guess I need to buy a few 100lb plates just for the cable system. I guess I'll get the selectorized Athena and use Gym Pin and/or bands to add weight but I wish I didn't have to. I have Rep 30 inch+16 and in half a garage so have no more room to add Lat Pulldown. I decided to get bigger rack as I'm 6'4 and thought 24 inch might be cramped.@@BasementBrandon

@futbol1972

6 ай бұрын

I have a selectorized lat pull down and iam dropping in my rhino into a 30" rack so I been thinking on selling my standalone lat pulldown and adding surplus system to rhino to condense my home gym. I just don't k ow if I will like it🤔🤔

@GibranHyder

6 ай бұрын

@@futbol1972 I think it depends on if the space savings is important to you. From what I understand, the rhino is super versatile, however you have to load the plates on it and it also eats into your rack space whereas you currently have a separate unit. I did end up selling my Rogue Monster rack and UPS High/Low and got the Rep Ares which has a selectorized stack and I much prefer being able to just move a pin. Ideally I would have a separate lat/low row but I just don't have the space

Man I’ve been waiting for you @basementbrandon to do a video on this brotha. When ordering the pulley system it asks for the crossmember height. Does that mean if I have a 90 inch rack that I put in 90 inches ? Or am I getting the measurement part wrong lol

@clb121781

Жыл бұрын

Yea, enter in rack height. I entered 90 and it’s perfect.

@A_Family_Mann_TCG

Жыл бұрын

@@clb121781 forsure ! Thanks man. I didn’t want to guess and be wrong lol

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Yep thats right!

Great video as always! The pricing of pulleys is interesting. For example, if you look at the Ancore at first glance, you might think it is way overpriced, but compared to this it looks more reasonable. Yes they are quite different....

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Yes always good to put things in context I think!

I like the comparison to cars. This is the hogh quality option. I'm tempted to pick the UPS because I like that I can possibly remove it since I will be using it on the side of my rack. Lesson learned on logos: don't touch!

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

🤪

My plate loaded titan cable machine was 399 and honestly does everything this does and more. I was being cheap and made a few diy setup exactly like this. I use my titan cable machine so much more. Its just so annoy loading the pins on a design like this

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I get it for sure, hard to compare pricing on mass produced chinese vs hand made american. I can't support Titan anymore based off their shady business practices so I wouldn't buy anything from them regardless.

It doesn't have the most potential of the pulley systems out there or that will be released soon, but I would still consider getting one so that my kids can sit on it while I pull

@asvpab

Жыл бұрын

What pulley will be released soon

@turkishdelight6032

Жыл бұрын

@@asvpab Bully Fab. They released a plate loaded carriage that glides along a power rack upright, and will be releasing their version of the Rogue slinger to complement it

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I think the UPS is just as versitile if not more. The Bully Fab just basically will minimize the sway. The issue is it's fixed on the upright and then angles can get messed up depending on where the other pulley is.

Spud Inc. have added a coating to their cables now. People complained that the raw cable ended up with steel splinters (ow!). Great bit of kit, which fills a gap in my gym. But I do wish I had the room for a separate selectorised unit. One day...

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Ah good to know, def dealt with that when I had it.

You may have touched on this, so apologies if you did, but in terms of smoothness, how does this compare with Rogue's Slinger? I have a Slinger combined with a Rhino in the back of an RM-6. I would say it works well, but it's not "weight stack smooth". Some of that is likely due to the design of the Rhino, and perhaps it's just me, but the pulleys on both my Rhino & Slinger have some "wobble". I have no idea if that factors into the feel, but I've considered trying to rectify that. Having said that, if it ain't broke... The UPS would offer flexibility in orienting my rack, but post assembly I can't really imagine trying to move the d@mn thing. The Slinger limits my options due to rack/ceiling height and protruding up between floor joists.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

It's fairly smooth. I think a big thing that makes a difference is if there is any slack in the line.The tighter it is, the smoother the action will be since there is less play. I don't recall noticing it was any more smooth than the slinger though, but I didn't have much issue with that.

For that price, I think you can buy a whole lat pulldown system for your rack which does WAY more than that cable pulley thing. FYI - I own a cable pulley system for my rack and I spent $20. It almost works as a functional training and most importantly It gets the job done LOL

@OU-812

Жыл бұрын

Whole lat pulley system? For under $500? Naaa unless it's absolutely garbage

@HughLeFitness

Жыл бұрын

@@OU-812 Yeah but they are plate loaded and not selectorized weight stacks.

@OU-812

Жыл бұрын

@@HughLeFitness right but what selector system are you referring to as an alternative at the same price point? I bought mine a bit back so it was the $475 it is today then. I use a landmine attachment and triangle attachment from rogue for row pulls.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, you can buy a lot of things for less, but that doesn't mean they're better. Pros and cons to everything IMO!

I think you should start your reviews with a little montage of the thing in action! The review itself is fantastic as always but as someone that has never heard of this thing it's about half way through the video before you actually see how it works

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah this review quickly turned into more of a price thing didn't it?

Looks well made, but I just can’t get over the price. If you have the standard spud inc, you’ll have two pulleys. If you have one attached to a racks pull up bar/front cross bar, and the other one attached to a safety pin sited towards the top of the rack going across the rack OR attached to the rear cross bar, you got exactly the same for a fraction of the cost. I agree that the spud inc is unstable in standard set up mode, but the above hack is a game changer…

@marckolson

Жыл бұрын

I personally had the Spud, and now have the UPS (Upper only), and it was a game changer. Completely removed the sway of the weights. I took my spud pulley and attached it to my lower crossmember, and now have a high and low row setup. I use my Powerblocks as spacers to do my low row work. It is expensive, but it's extremely well made! I highly recommend it!

@danredmond5589

Жыл бұрын

@@marckolson did you have it set up as layed out above? If you didn’t, it can be set up to be a carbon copy of this. You can even get a couple of cheap pulleys on Amazon and do the same for under $25.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

So my 2 cents having owned both. I didn’t have the dual pulley up top but see your point. I’d still say the quality of Spud was pretty low. Cabling was not very good, nor were pulleys, but it’s like $100 so can’t complain. The spud mounts lower and still has some play bc it’s not locked in place, so the UPS being rack height and locked in place pulleys is nicer. Both solutions get the job done though, the UPS just does everything better IMO.

@danredmond5589

Жыл бұрын

For me, the R & D should be on the seating and pads for these type of systems. Something like the Rogue slinger seat, but offset from the uprights so you’re not directly facing them. Also, I found that attaching a chain to the bottom of the loading pin took away 80% of the plates swinging, and having the two pulley set up I talk about above, took away 19%! I agree though, there is nothing magical about the spud inc… you could achieve the same using stuff from Home Depot.

@marckolson

Жыл бұрын

@@danredmond5589 I think it all comes down to how and where you want to spend your money. Like Brandon said in the beginning, you can 100% do this same type of system on the cheap with some $20 pulleys from home depot, and some home made cable that you make yourself...and functionally you'll probably get a similar result. Do you want a Pontiac Fiero, or a ACR Viper....both are cars and will get you were you're going, but with very different fit and finish along the way!

I kicked around buying one of these when they first came out, I think the upper was priced at $225 and the lower was $200, and they came in blue for that price. Not getting it was the biggest mistake of my home gym building life.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

That's why you should always buy as much equipment as soon as possible :)

I've been thinking about buying this. I currently have a Rogue Rhino with RM-3 and Spud Inc system. My lat pull down bar comes in contact with the rack and I would like this extra overhang.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Might be a good solution

thanks for the video

@BasementBrandon

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for taking a look

I think the home gym space is large enough now to accommodate boutique manufacturers that are satisfied remaining a smaller size for the foreseeable future. Or they simply have problems scaling up. Getting a unit into every home gym may not be the goal of most home gym manufacturers and it may not even be plausible if it were. I think the only manufacturer capable of that actually is Marcy or Bowflex. Even Rogue wouldn’t be able to stock every Dick’s sporting goods in the nation. This is great though for the customer because a smaller manufacturer is more likely to be accommodating to the customer. I’ve gotten custom colors and sizes from Mutant Metals and Prime but Nautilus wouldn’t even let me choose a specific color they listed on their website because a gym chain had exclusive rights to it, ridiculous. A $800 detachable pulley system isn’t for everyone but I’m glad it’s an option because I’ve gotten stuff that few people want or need.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Some good points!

Good review! Is there extra things you can add to prevent the loading pin from swaying?

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Prob could throw some sort of band down there I'd imagine!

@TonyDrecaps

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon gotcha ! Any suggestions on which one? This thing would be perfect since my ceiling has no extra height for something like a Rogue slinger.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

@@TonyDrecaps Not off hand, I didn't test it, but I imagine it wouldn't be hard to rig up. But also remember, as long as you're controlling the weights it has very minimal swing, so may not even be necessary.

@TonyDrecaps

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon appreciate the info

Just in operation is this as smooth feeling as the Prime unit for lat pulldowns?

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it can be.

Can't wait for the contest... They wont fit my rack, but I am into the logo's if you know what I mean....

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

hey now!

Hi man! Quick one... why your LT150 arms are white? did you ordered special in white or you painted them? Thanks

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I paid extra from rogue for a custom color.

Looks like this could be a great option for a lot of people short on space but maybe wouldn't be satisfied with a cheap pandemic style pulley system. Great review, Brandon 👌

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Thanks my dude!

Do they mount on a functional trainer single column? Like a Rogue or very economical Titan wall mount.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Not sure

Hello. I’m using the UPS since April and all in all I’m happy with it. Regarding the price I have to say that I live in Germany and shipping plus tax and customs doubles the price you mentioned. Around 1000$.But for me in my very small gym it is the best solution. Yes,it swings sometimes,but not in a way you can’t stop if you let the weights totally down for a second . The only real downside is that the holes in the low attachment do not align with the holes in the crossmember of my Rogue RML rack. I had to make my own,much smaller pins to fix that.Fortunately I own a lathe and could make them myself. It works,but it looks a little bit improvised.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Make sure to send that over to them!

It's a very solid piece of equipment and IMO worth every penny (didn't purchase the row piece tho). Depends what you want like B stated. You can go to home Depot and make yourself some cheap pull system but that is exactly what it is. To each his own but I'll pretty happy with my SS purchase. Very well built, no sway and looks OE with my Rogue rack

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'd rather pay more for nicer finish and integration, but understand those who don't.

I can see the high quality in this system but the Rep Fitness system is better with actual guide rods and weight horns. The Rep one does add to the footprint of the rack and probably doesn’t work on a Rogue rack though.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think if you have a rack that makes an actual system for it, it would make more sense to go that route.

I feel like the low row didnt need the foot plate, cant you just use the rack, or add some wood blocks if you deperately need it or some other attachment but it should get out the way so i can just leave it on

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I like the separation, but I suppose you could do without.

Any update on the barbell you were creating?

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Actually yes. I need to get around to that video lol.

What about the Phoenix pulley system from Bridge Built?

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Have not used.

The real problem with this system is the damn loading pin. Let's say you start at 240lbs for lat pulldown and want to do drop sets you have to take cable off, remove some weights, put it back on and by then your muscles are rested and you aren't really accomplishing your goal. This guy was clever but not enough to also sell a horizontal loading pin. I'd love to have that put on 4 45s and a ton of 10s and quickly pull off 1 or 2 off each side and keep going. The more I think about it I will have no choice but to get Athena with weight stack and use Gym Pin and bands to get weight up there. Having the perfect height of the cable for various exercises and not having to set it up, take it down, load and unload weights would make it worth it. I got the Rogue USA Olympic plates which are super thin so can add a lot of weight on Gym Pin so have that going for me.

@BasementBrandon

8 ай бұрын

Def a trade off!

Hey Brandon what would you recommend for something that will allow you to do cable crossover and lat pull down? I have a rack but I want to get a stack based functional trainer or something ideally that I could do both on, maybe lat by pulling up a bench, although some of the Amazon ones say they have attachments, they don’t look to sturdy… Do you have any videos or thoughts on this? Love your prime stack and other pulley reviews. Price isn’t a massive concern but I only have space for either a functional trainer or lat pull down and would love one that does both. I could go for a rogue cave set up dual stacks but can’t find reviews on that. Love the content dude and really appreciate your knowledge!

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure TBH, REP is making a rack attached one that would allow that, but my worry is its fairly narrow.

Man, i really want this but not so bad I'm willing to get on Instagram

@Timm129

Жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing...

@MrJose021292

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean?

@Timm129

Жыл бұрын

@@MrJose021292 I'm not willing to get on Instagram for a chance to win this..

@knyghtkrawlr

Жыл бұрын

@@MrJose021292 social media is a plague on society

@MrJose021292

Жыл бұрын

Oh I agree missed the part of the giveaway. Going 2 years strong since I got off social media. Kinda hard to escape hell even KZread has these cringy ass shorts now

Are you in the market for a leg press, would love to see a review on a good bolt together frame leg press.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I don't think I'd use it much and the cost/space it takes up is not that appealing to me. Plus I'd have to get it in the basement lol.

@Ryan-ds3dh

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon you got the room! Need reviews on this!!!

So, for people that have a rep rack, is there any reason to use this over their plate loaded lat pulldown/row thing?

@BasementBrandon

2 ай бұрын

Prob only if you want a piece that you can remove.

@Exercise-vt6je

2 ай бұрын

@@BasementBrandon Alright, thanks!

have you ever tried to use the low pulley as a "belt squat" ?

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Have not!

@jeremy_c9163

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon do you think it's possible? Thanks for the reply!

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

@@jeremy_c9163 Maybe, but the tradeoffs will be you'll need to likely set up blocks to stand on and the angle will not be desirable.

Where did you get the shirt from man? Big old school WWE fan here, would love to get some.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Homage!

@nuriduraku7816

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon cheers bro

It’s hard sell. Rep sells a complete weight plate pulley system for 400$ to add to the Rep 4000, which includes a low row. It saves space but just a hard sell for most home gym owners.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

But what if you don't have a REP rack :)

@JohnJacob56

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon Probably should go get one. REP fan boy all the way.

@jwamp

Жыл бұрын

I have a Rep rack and still opted for the Surplus Strength upper and lower due to space constraints. I really like the Surplus Strength stuff, as mentioned, not the cheapest, but certainly well thought out and functions great.

Just bought it. You don't have an affiliate link for this unless I missed it

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I do not!

I think you say “Back in the basement again” to convince us you ever left the basement in the first place.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

You're probably right but I got sick of saying "hey what's up everybody, brandon back again"

Ordered one about two months ago

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Nice!

How did the Spud Inc. system almost decapitate you?

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Swings like crazy and the cable is not covered.

I get your problems with the Spud Inc pulley system. It's not fancy, it's kind of a pain in the ass and yeah, sure, it might decapitate someone. But it does everything you need from a pulley system. Or at least everything I need from a pulley system.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree, the SS one just does it nicer.

Change the cable to 4.8 mm and u will see a better result .. the cable looks very stiff .. not pending by gravity (ive dont my comparison and there is a big difference)

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I think they have tested that and the heavier cables worked better in the long run.

If only rogue made a rack mounted pulley system similar to rep’s

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah really surprised they don't.

I’ll take it b

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure!!

1. Unreal shirt 2. Unreal tan 3. random question...whats the depth of your entire rack? I know you've got the rm5 style'd rack

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Haha thanks Tom, I make it out of the basement for the beach a few times in the summer. Total depth is 63", 30" front, 24" back, then 3" for each of the 3 uprights.

@Fartking_69

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon thanks! I was really debating between the Rep fitness pr5k cause it was 55" but 8" more isn't that bad (that's what she said)

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

@@Fartking_69 Can't go wrong with either (having owned both).The 47" total width is a big selling point for some vs Rogue at 49"

I hope ur able to spend time upstairs too

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

always

@tomnohmy1273

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon lol

It looks like a great piece of equipment but I am going to make it myself for half the price or more.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Nice.

I bought a lot of this stuff to try and save money. I finally broke down and got a functional trainer and a lat pull down. ...lol Good by 4 grand

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Worth it to me if you can swing it!

@richt5986

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon it's definitely worth it. I just like the smell of my money too lol

While the $250 Fitness Reality power cage may not be BETTER than the rep or rogue racks, the $250 fitness reality plate loaded lat pull down/ low row attachment for it looks far better than this thing for $800, you claim that this is like a refined Mercedes but to your average viewer it comes off far more like a gold plated unicycle, it’s silly.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Fitness reality is def in the hooptie category lol. I would take the UPS over that 9 times out of 10, the only caveat being if I only had $250.

@flyguy8787

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon for a lat pull down that swings and sways (has no guide rail) and has to be setup on the side of the rack this is a glorified $29 Coop version compared to a lat pulldown attachment that has a rail. Fit finish/ Laser cut metal and UHMW doesn’t impress all of us.

@clb121781

Жыл бұрын

@@flyguy8787 you can set it up on any crossmember. A lot of folks mount it in the middle of their rack. Also, if you control the weight like you should, there’s literally 0 sway. It’s very well designed.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

@@flyguy8787 It doesn't have to be side mounted and it can tie into a guide rail system.

If only Jason would add a single pulley to go with this - without the cheesy foot grips

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure he could.

@dc5131

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon I’ve tried. You’d be the only guy who could convince him.

My surplus strength ups high arrived yesterday after waiting for it for two months. It is disappointing. The machining is sloppy with nearly a 1/16" of an inch gap between the uhmw and the bar. It rattles all over the cross piece. The bolt area has no support behind it all. I sent a mail to Jason (the owner) to discuss. At first, I mailed an automated email with a no-reply address without realizing it. When I didn't get a response, I sent it a second time to the correct address. Jason was noticeably upset in his response that I hadn't waited 24 hours and he offered to send me some tape to fix it. My impression: don't bother with this thing. Rack mounted gliders like the Bully Glider is a much better option. I personally have that device and it is incredibly well made and smooth.

@BasementBrandon

4 ай бұрын

I'm sorry you had that experience, I haven't heard of many with issues, thanks for sharing.

@TheGeneralPractition

4 ай бұрын

Thanks. I'm pretty sure the issue is the 75mm vs 3" rack but 1/16" is a lot more slop than I've seen in other attachments. I'll get it fixed by adding some uhmw. The shocking thing was the response from the company though.

@TheGeneralPractition

4 ай бұрын

To close the loop, my 1/16" of inch uhmw shim came today. I sawed it to fit and now the device fits my rack correctly and feels incredible with the bully glyder holding the weight. I am confident this is due to the ups high not accounting for the metric based 3" racks (which are actually 75mm)

I think you have to go around the gym and and pick out items you have not reviewed yet

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Haha def trying to work through my backlog.

So we just need rogue to buy them out and then we’ll get these at a reasonable cost😂

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Lol

What about Spud Inc. econo pulley system lol

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I've done a video on that when I owned it.

Completely over priced imo. My Rep PR4000 lat pull down is far superior and way less.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Having owned both I don't necessarily agree. If you have a Rep rack already then yes, it makes more sense to get their system. However this can be adapted to almost any rack without increasing footprint and can be easily moved if needed.

@Dippedinblackink

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon that’s cool it can adapt to any foot print but when the piece just for a pulley cost over $700 you lost me at that price point.

Demo ???

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Sorry it works very similar to how a pulley system works so didn't feel I needed to get too into that.

While mounting your attachment you might finger it; don't worry you have two different sized holes. Depending on the size of your hardware.🤣🤣🤣

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

:)

This system doesn't interest me at all, despite it being popular among home gym owners. I think I'm going to pre order the bully fab bully glider, and order the Rogue slinger in combination with Rogues lat pulldown/low row seat.

@turkishdelight6032

Жыл бұрын

Bully Fab is coming out with their own top pulley at a competitive price; the Glyder was made to be compatible with the Slinger, but their own top pulley will obviously be made specifically to match. I also bought the lat seat and dual roller attachments from Straydog Strength to turn a spotter arm and upright on my existing setup into a lat seat; should be significantly more affordable than the Rogue seat. Doesn't come with a low row option, but Straydog either already has or will have a solution for that (check the site or ask them). Will be more economical than Rogue no matter what

@monkeythief5

Жыл бұрын

@@turkishdelight6032 StrayDog already has a low row option you can buy from their site.

@turkishdelight6032

Жыл бұрын

@@monkeythief5 Yeah I remember now

@Mikestuh

Жыл бұрын

How are you going to use the Bully glider with a low row seat? The low row seat bolts to the upright in which the glider also attaches to and rolls up and down on. Just curious because I was thinking of selling my Surplus Upper and going this route as well. Edit: Just went on their IG page and they stated to just use a pin on the rack to stop the glider anywhere to change the starting point. Might have to go ahead and order a Rogue slinger and low row/seat combo.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I've seen that, basically like a trolly unit without the arm.

I'm sure it's nice. I'm also still sure it's extremely overpriced. It's about $75 of tubing, some cheap pulleys and a $10 cable.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Not quite, these are higher end sourced materials. For instance, just for a set of the 4 pins it comes with retails for around $80, each pulley roughly $20, etc.

You used the term “fingering” three too many times. 😂

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

One for every finger I use.

Sell me a membership to your basement bro

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Lol

Hais I wish I was a billionare

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Me too

$550 + shipping to canada lol

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah small manufacturer and international shipping don't usually work out well 😅

Of course u are gonna say it is worth the money now that they gave u one. If u still said it was too expensive then they would tell u to send it back to them. So the customer again gets a biased review from a reviewer getting products and/or kickbacks. We need reviewers to give unbiased reviews but that is just not gonna happen when these reviewers are getting free stuff and kickbacks. Everybody ends up happy except the person who is actually gonna buy it. He doesnt know the quality or if it's worth the money until he/she buys it.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

I think you're a bit confused here. Just b/c someone gives it to me does not mean I will say it's worthwhile, I have dozens of reviews where I say they're overpriced or not worth it (as recent as last week's video).

Still think it’s overpriced lol

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Just means the value isnt' there for you!

$450 for 2 plastic pulleys and a 2ft long piece of steel. I'll pass.

@BasementBrandon

Ай бұрын

I mean feel free to source the same materials, powder coating, machines, etc. lol

First time I’ve been first!

@mplussant

Жыл бұрын

… woo-hoo!…bucket list check-off!…congrats!…

@gumbygreeneye3655

Жыл бұрын

Damn you Jacob! Damn you to hell!!

@asvpab

Жыл бұрын

Congratulations on your achievement 👏

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

my man

@jacobrogers55

Жыл бұрын

@@BasementBrandon great video, I saw it his a while ago on garage gym lab and thought it was promising till you reviewed it and talked $$$. When I upgrade racks will buy a plates loaded tower for sure now.

Price point is absurd, even at half price that ain't worth it. If you ask me how much raw steel would be used for something worth $700+ I would say like, quadruple the amount of steel these two pieces have. Thumbs down.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

While I agree it’s pricey, it’s not outrageous in context to me. Even a good pair of j-cups these days can run you $200-$300 and that’s for a lot less steel and materials. Those detent pins cost like $15-$20 a piece as is, that’s already $80 for 4 of them, hand cut steel, hand welds, custom powder coat, higher end cabling, etc. It adds up!

@OU-812

Жыл бұрын

You are way off base here with this comment.

Not sure how you can say a formed single piece of 3/16 " or 1/4" plate is quality. Garbage. and would never buy.

@BasementBrandon

Жыл бұрын

Don't buy it then 😜