Surplus Store Grenade Hulls vs. Real Grenade Hulls

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In this video we test the fragmentation difference between an actual Russian F1 grenade hull, a surplus store M26 grenade hull made from cast-iron, and a replica of an actual M26 grenade hull we got from RMI Gear (www.rmigear.com).
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  • @brenwoodard1832
    @brenwoodard18322 жыл бұрын

    So, the cast iron ones are usually weighted training grenades. They are made for practice throwing before you toss a real one, or for things that just involve tossing them into a specific area. Sometimes we get boxes of fuses with blasting caps to use with them sometimes not. Once we had a bunch of the fuzes left over and people started jamming them into oranges and throwing them at each other, because Marines.

  • @Shad0wBoxxer

    @Shad0wBoxxer

    2 жыл бұрын

    thats one way to get your vit c

  • @marblemarble7113

    @marblemarble7113

    2 жыл бұрын

    sounds like fun

  • @DefensibleBallistics
    @DefensibleBallistics2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Ordnance Lab, we can help with your targets for explosive analysis!

  • @officialdirtmcgurt

    @officialdirtmcgurt

    2 жыл бұрын

    Y'all gained a sub for that. Lulz

  • @chrisglenz5804

    @chrisglenz5804

    2 жыл бұрын

    ^^^

  • @zhongxena1155

    @zhongxena1155

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah he totally needs to take you up on that offer that would be way more cooler to see.

  • @marxkartredge

    @marxkartredge

    2 жыл бұрын

    👍bump

  • @dannybax1982

    @dannybax1982

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Ordnance Lab I'd take 'm up one that one !! Should be verryyy interessting.

  • @robertlombardo8437
    @robertlombardo84372 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for existing Ordnance Lab. I hope you guys do this stuff forever. We all have our curiosities. Mine just happen to be extremely dangerous so I can't legally satisfy them. But I sure am glad you guys can instead!

  • @dudetapedtoafridge3073

    @dudetapedtoafridge3073

    2 жыл бұрын

    I usually launch salute firework shells at firework clubs for some pyro satisfaction lol

  • @WvlfDarkfire

    @WvlfDarkfire

    2 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't have said it better myself

  • @johnnykramer7377

    @johnnykramer7377

    2 жыл бұрын

    I second this

  • @pyrothefirst

    @pyrothefirst

    11 ай бұрын

    You can always do the work to be licensed and you can do the same, but if you haven't got the experience, then get it 😀

  • @Matt-xc6sp
    @Matt-xc6sp2 жыл бұрын

    “Good job butterfly” Butterfly: WHAT?!

  • @jlambuth

    @jlambuth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fortunately, we have an insurance plan that covers butterfly incidents.

  • @Matt-xc6sp

    @Matt-xc6sp

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jlambuth 👈🏻👈🏻

  • @jlambuth
    @jlambuth2 жыл бұрын

    Filming this video was a legit pain as it rained on and off this trip. Between the constant rain, flooding, mud, and other issues, we were glad to be done with this video finally.

  • @disgruntledegghead6923

    @disgruntledegghead6923

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like Florida issues. If it isn't raining something or somebody is going to screw it up for you.

  • @jlambuth

    @jlambuth

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tafdiz good question. We have used TNT before in grenade tests. COVID has screwed us with logistics and getting TNT flake. We didn't have time to make enough for the video. So we had to use the next available explosive. It has nearly the same det velocity so it serves as a decent analog. Under better conditions, we would have casted TNT or comp B.

  • @terminatedaccount8750

    @terminatedaccount8750

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jlambuth 1. Demoralize a nation 2. Destabilize the nation 3. Crises: civil war or invasion 4. New normal... tanks in the streets YURI Bezmenov 1984 video. 1hr on KZread 🤣 Most people don't know history so this is why it repeats often. We're in stage 3 with invasion on the border

  • @salthack

    @salthack

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jlambuth new to the channel so I'm not sure if you've done this already, but have you made/tested the Mk2 variant that was filled with smokeless powder?

  • @jlambuth

    @jlambuth

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@salthack we haven't but we def can

  • @rogergadley9965
    @rogergadley9965 Жыл бұрын

    I carried and threw quite a number of M-26 grenades in Vietnam. I also saw a guy throw a defective one. It hit a rock and didn’t explode but the thin sheet metal shell popped apart. Inside was a ball, a little smaller than a golf ball. The ball was the actual grenade, the lemon shaped shell was just a shell. It wouldn’t have fragmented. The ball itself was a tightly wound diamond shaped (in cross section) high carbon spring steel wire, with serrations every 5 mm or so. There were 960 of those serrations and the C-4 inside would shatter the very brittle wire into 961 sharp shards about the size of a grain of wheat, traveling at 4,000 to 5,000 feet per second, much faster than the 3,100 or 3,200 fps the bullets came out of an M16. I saw a Vietcong soldier go down after an M-26 blast. Later, after all the shooting stopped I went over to look at his lifeless body. He was unmarked, except for a single tiny hole in his forehead. The M-26 grenade was a very effective weapon.

  • @marlonw5053

    @marlonw5053

    11 ай бұрын

    Hard to know what to say but thanks for sharing!

  • @diapysik

    @diapysik

    11 ай бұрын

    neato, saw a history channel bit as a kid that described the m67 as having a very similar fragmentation mantle, makes me wonder if those baseballs are actually full to the shell with frag and explosives or if they're another casing for a golfball that's just more convenient to pack and throw.

  • @theycallmegrizz3420
    @theycallmegrizz34202 жыл бұрын

    Since Cuba is in the news again, you guys should look into Che Guevaras "M-16" mortar/launcher. Just a simple single shot 16ga shotgun that launches molotovs like mortars. They claimed it was super effective and was very cheap to make.

  • @disgruntledenlisted8486
    @disgruntledenlisted84862 жыл бұрын

    In the army we were told to go prone, face in the dirt, head towards the grenade. The school of thought was that the frag and concussive force usually goes upward in a wide cone shape, and if any frag should hit you, your helmet was what you want it to hit. This is a good proof of concept

  • @adhd_with_pennies4867

    @adhd_with_pennies4867

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same but we wore plastic level 3 face shield on our helmet we did that so when a grenade was thrown we go prone and instead of putting our faces in the ground the face shield would help protect from fragments and see where enemy might be

  • @kerbalairforce8802

    @kerbalairforce8802

    11 ай бұрын

    Air Force teaches the same, but with feet towards the grenade. The idea being that feet aren't critical for life, but head and organs are.

  • @Dsdcain
    @Dsdcain2 жыл бұрын

    Wait, wait. So you're saying that when a grenade goes off it doesn't have the power to completely level a house like in the movies? 👀 Imagine that. Hollywood gets weapons wrong again. Who'd have thunk it. Like completely silent suppressors, or super long firing sub machineguns. 🤣 Great video guys. Thanks for sharing it. Please let Buddy know I bow before his absolute supreme power. 😎

  • @jlambuth

    @jlambuth

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know! My entire world is ruined. Especially after watching a ton of 80s action movies.

  • @boltvanderhuge4858
    @boltvanderhuge48582 жыл бұрын

    You know that butterfly went on to brag about how bad ass it is. Probably started wearing axe body spray, tank tops, and only drinks Jagerbombs.

  • @chrislittle1222
    @chrislittle12222 жыл бұрын

    Ordinance lab 1 year from now: HOMEMADE ICBM BETTER THAN ORIGINAL

  • @fortusvictus8297
    @fortusvictus82972 жыл бұрын

    Did a tour of a mine in Lead, SD and they stated that in WW2 their machine shop converted to making grenade bodies for the Army only to find out that their production of the design was 'too strong' so the hulls were used as dummy grenades and not filled. Seems there is a science to not just the design but metallurgy of grenade hulls.

  • @kerbalairforce8802

    @kerbalairforce8802

    2 жыл бұрын

    "too strong" grenade hulls could be used as flashbangs, I'd think.

  • @robertthomas5906

    @robertthomas5906

    2 жыл бұрын

    When he said made of junk metal, they meant it. So all that crap that has slag, dirt, glass, and other things you're throwing out would be used. Cast it into the halves and then bind them together. Think of it as the hotdog meat of metal-making. Don't look up what is in hotdogs now... LOL.

  • @SonsOfLorgar

    @SonsOfLorgar

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@robertthomas5906 at least in Europe, named types of sausage like Wiener sausage or Falukorv (Swedish type of "doctors sausage") has a strict quality and recipie adherence control.

  • @robertthomas5906

    @robertthomas5906

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SonsOfLorgar Hope it stays that way. Here in the states when we buy something that says Extra Virgin Olive Oil, who knows what is in the container? Especially if it's $5 for a liter. I know that's crap oil. The real stuff should be more like $35 a liter. The cheap stuff often isn't even good enough for a lamp.

  • @phillipdavis3053
    @phillipdavis30532 жыл бұрын

    How about replicating the Glasmine 43 from WW2.. It would be interesting to see how detectable and effective they were. Additionally the wooden Schu-mine 42 for the same reasons.

  • @cameraguycs
    @cameraguycs2 жыл бұрын

    Oh shit it’s my favorite KZreadr SHEEPDOG OPERATOR DESTRUCTION FARM

  • @SomervilleBob
    @SomervilleBob2 жыл бұрын

    I was at a Goodwill when up popped a live pineapple grenade. It was in a bin ready to be put on the shelf when a customer reached in and grabbed it. He was walking around the store for a few minutes with it before a former military employee recognized it and took it from him. I got a nice K-Bar type knife dated 1967 and some loaded magazines. The cops took it from the store.

  • @PilotTed

    @PilotTed

    2 жыл бұрын

    How the hell does a live pineapple grenade end up a ta goodwill? your sure it wasn't one of those inert repros or an inert surplus one?

  • @marvindebot3264

    @marvindebot3264

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PilotTed Mate, they end up in all kinds of places. People die, relies or the city clean out the house and ship everything to Goodwill

  • @robertthomas5906

    @robertthomas5906

    2 жыл бұрын

    People love giving that man all their old stuff. It's a business for profit.

  • @SomervilleBob

    @SomervilleBob

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PilotTed Nope. I asked the cops later and he confirmed it was real and live. The junk stores get all sorts of arms.

  • @PilotTed

    @PilotTed

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SomervilleBob Jesus.... now I wish I worked at a goodwill, would have kept that one for my self lol. For legal reasons that was a joke....

  • @anthonyburke5656
    @anthonyburke56562 жыл бұрын

    Back when I was a kid, we had M36 grenades, the user had to prime them, by inserting the fuses, choosing what delay you wanted. It was much safer than the factory primed grenades, which sometimes had an instantaneous fuse ( those instantaneous grenades cost ).

  • @garycornelisse9228
    @garycornelisse9228 Жыл бұрын

    I recall from basic training at Ft Dix in 1963 serving as a grenade demonstrater, the M-26 had or has a coil of spring steel inside it that is serrated so it breaks up and scatters bits of steel in it's blast radius.Very effective.

  • @androidstash5039
    @androidstash50392 жыл бұрын

    You should try exploding the grenades on a hard surface like concrete or metal, so we can see the frag pattern without mud spraying the tgt

  • @johnnykramer7377
    @johnnykramer73772 жыл бұрын

    I get so excited when I see a new Ordnance Lab upload this is probably my favorite channel on YT

  • @TopShotDustin
    @TopShotDustin2 жыл бұрын

    I was actually going to ask this question earlier. Nice!

  • @chipc461
    @chipc4612 жыл бұрын

    You should stake a large circular parachute to the ground and blow it up with an air mover, kinda like we used to do in the gym when we were kids. Set a grenade off on the inside and really see where every fragment pierces the parachute. Would be cool to see

  • @X4Alpha4X
    @X4Alpha4X2 жыл бұрын

    i wonder if the next time you do explosive fragmentation testing if you could get one of those clear block of ballistic gel and set it up right like one of the orange target just so we can see how deep a lot of that fragmentation would really go.

  • @matthayward7889
    @matthayward78892 жыл бұрын

    I Appreciate the work that goes into making these videos, scary how far fragments *can* go

  • @gatesmims86
    @gatesmims862 жыл бұрын

    I saw that comment and he is wrong we can’t do it in our back yards because we are not licensed or now really anything about that stuff love your channel and I don’t care if the targets where used I just like learning more and seeing the explosion

  • @mattparker9726

    @mattparker9726

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah fuck that guy, even if he’s licensed, no reason to rain on OL parade.

  • @4x4ViewFinder

    @4x4ViewFinder

    2 жыл бұрын

    No worries, he unsubd and i subed. Felt like im missing out on this stuff that apparently everybody has in their back yard.

  • @ashersolomon9560
    @ashersolomon95602 жыл бұрын

    I believe that shrapnel material is really important in terms of the element/compound. Copper is known to be effective against hardened targets. Copper shielding tape for electronics can be wrapped around almost anything you want

  • @CriminalOverPoweringSocietyCOP
    @CriminalOverPoweringSocietyCOP Жыл бұрын

    As a child my neighbor use to modify surplus store shells, and go fishing with them in our neighborhood pond. He was not allowed over to our house but me and my brother would watch him. Last Christmas, 30 years later, I ran across this same person, he had a prosthetic arm, and half his body was melted. Didn’t even need to ask,

  • @3870TheDad
    @3870TheDad2 жыл бұрын

    You have just been visited by the "Hidden Bummer Factor"!! Basically, it is a theory that any job will take at least twice as long to complete as your boss says it will, that you will not have the required tool to complete your task, and nobody will own up to the fact that they are the ones that left the needed tool in the rented care you used last week.

  • @lzxray6781
    @lzxray67812 жыл бұрын

    You guys did great! Appreciate the work you put in.

  • @justsmallstuff4994

    @justsmallstuff4994

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think thay have done that in a earlier vid

  • @firearmsaddictloveguns
    @firearmsaddictloveguns2 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed this video. I always wondered how real grenades actually preform. Thank you for all of the hard work.

  • @lylenicholson1639
    @lylenicholson16392 жыл бұрын

    The case of the m26 was not the source of fragmentation, there was a spiral wound notched stainless wire around the charge . That's why the case is sheet metal . If the hulls you are using don't have the fragmentation sleeve then your tests won't have any real world results .

  • @rogergadley9965
    @rogergadley9965 Жыл бұрын

    Ordinance Lab, make your targets out of Sheetrock, much cheaper than even economy plywood. We used Sheetrock in the Marine Corps to test the coverage pattern of air-burst artillery fire. It worked beautifully.

  • @rippertrain
    @rippertrain2 жыл бұрын

    I was just googling this topic last week. I have the cast iron trainer and I wanted to learn more about it. Great vid thumbs up.

  • @shallnotbeinfringedamerica1683
    @shallnotbeinfringedamerica1683 Жыл бұрын

    Well done butterfly well done... to this day the butterfly still has tinnitus

  • @codyhahn2359
    @codyhahn23592 жыл бұрын

    This channel is just great love the content keep it up

  • @jackherer519
    @jackherer5192 жыл бұрын

    would be so cool to see ya detonate frags in sheds, playhouses and other structures. Great video as always

  • @cheguevara3392
    @cheguevara33922 жыл бұрын

    What a lot of people often forget is, that a group of injured men are more beneficial than one or two dead, because the others have to take care of them and take them out, which makes the whole unit more vulnerable and less effective!

  • @rameynoodles152

    @rameynoodles152

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, until they are actually in combat and have to prioritise fighting over saving already heavily wounded (likely basically dead men). Maybe good tactics against a green unit, but not veteran units.

  • @cheguevara3392

    @cheguevara3392

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rameynoodles152 You seem to believe the MSMedia (especially Newspaper) Normandy type of actions! One of the military analysts on the National Interest said it how it would go down, and I agree with him! To destroy any of the important military locations (headquarters, bases, airfields, depots) or bigger military forces, they don't need to put one man in harms way, and they can use land or sea based missiles which would end any hostilities before they even begin, and the special forces, mercenaries and Nazis will be where they have been in 2014/15 as well, far away from the battleground. Which they left before sh*t went down! How do we know that you ask? This war was very good documented with GoPro's, and they didn't get any of them in the two big battles because they were not there anymore! So how is the current situation around the Ukrainian Military in the East? It's worse than in 2014/15 and if a bigger operation starts, you will see the majority going without weapons over or leave towards their homes! The Clownshow in Kiev is best pictured with the situation, it's almost at the point of "Hitler was in beginning of March 1945, when he was talking about Troops and people who are no longer there", but Zelensky and Poroshenko are different, they are trying to get as much cash out before they leave, and weapons who won't change anything at all, but they can be sold and this is whats going to happen! But the first Analyse you can read yourself, a Marine General wrote about it, and he is absolutely right! No Normandy, No Street fights or anything like that! The people are fed up with sh*t show in Kiev!

  • @rameynoodles152

    @rameynoodles152

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cheguevara3392 What the actual fuck are you talking about? We were talking about how effective wounding soldiers is versus killing them outright.

  • @ericday604
    @ericday6042 жыл бұрын

    I would like to see the dutch mini grenades sometimes carried by the sog guys in nam. Thanks for all the fun!!!

  • @libertyrevolutionary1776
    @libertyrevolutionary17762 жыл бұрын

    Also, a lawn sprinkler system that shoots gasoline would be great. Then get an MG with some tracers.

  • @nobodynoone2500

    @nobodynoone2500

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or the HE in a light bulb trick

  • @jd7338

    @jd7338

    2 жыл бұрын

    I feel like the whole system would just explode

  • @bsoul3177
    @bsoul31772 жыл бұрын

    I’m so happy for this video I was always so interested about this

  • @sortaspicey9278
    @sortaspicey92782 жыл бұрын

    That butterfly is an absolute badass lol

  • @peterthepeter7523
    @peterthepeter75232 жыл бұрын

    Actually there's nothing surprising about grenade with more explosives having smaller effective radius. F1 is a defensive grenade. They are heavier have less explosives and produce lots of heavier fragments that can fly further. Far enough to hit the soldier who throws the grenade so he has to be in cover - that's why it's called defensive. Offensive grenades like M26 are lighter but have more explosives. Their shrapnel is smaller and can't fly that far but the explosion is stronger. And you can throw it and mostly be safe without getting into cover. Soviets too had various offensive and defensive grenades with similar weights of the shell and explosives according to these two types.

  • @jeredhersh789

    @jeredhersh789

    2 жыл бұрын

    If I remember correctly, the soviet offensive version of the F1 was the RGD-5, which used a sheet steel body.

  • @mfree80286
    @mfree802862 жыл бұрын

    Cheap self-adhesive shelf paper could be considered really big tape. Just saying... it would let you present a completely clean target surface every time, and it's waterproof. Could even wrap a scrapped ironing board with it, set it on it's end, and have a human-ish sized self-standing target that can also serve as a range table in a pinch.

  • @davidduafala3050
    @davidduafala30502 жыл бұрын

    When recycling targets just slide a white garbage bag over the old target. Any tear in the garbage bag is a new hit. Replace bags as needed.

  • @officialdirtmcgurt

    @officialdirtmcgurt

    2 жыл бұрын

    Based

  • @devonc1
    @devonc12 жыл бұрын

    I know that when I was in the army back in 90. At the live fire grenade range, I found a few chunks of shrapnel that looked like it was laser cut into a pattern to help in fragmentation and dispersion on the inside.

  • @libertyrevolutionary1776
    @libertyrevolutionary17762 жыл бұрын

    You should make a hollow steel front door filled with tannerite... leave the interior side intact and put score lines on the exterior so the exterior side will fragment like a giant claymore....

  • @salty_armorer4027

    @salty_armorer4027

    2 жыл бұрын

    I like the way you think. Attach bags of salt water to the interior side of the door and it should direct most of the blast outward.

  • @sheldoniusRex

    @sheldoniusRex

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just have flower pots on my porch. I see a stack and shoot the flower pot. Also getting a stuffed dog soon. Gonna fill him up to the brim.

  • @JEJAK5396
    @JEJAK53962 жыл бұрын

    As a suggestion, consider setting up a concrete or earthen blast room and put up replaceable plywood walls around the perimeter.

  • @goten102002
    @goten1020022 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see you guys test different explosive compounds in grenades to see how it would effect overall performance

  • @williamjeffersonclinton69
    @williamjeffersonclinton692 жыл бұрын

    07:16 That butterfly is so getting laid after this near death experience.

  • @Solesz
    @Solesz2 жыл бұрын

    And suddenly everyone is an explosive specialist.

  • @1dirkmanchest
    @1dirkmanchest2 жыл бұрын

    A very interesting video that shows the real function and not Hollywood nonsense. For example, there is no way an M18 Claymore could be detonated on the other side of a police riot shield and the person holding the shield not be blown to pieces by the backblast. Touching off 1.5 pounds of C4 inches away from your head and not being killed is ridiculous.

  • @Taylor-mq6fk

    @Taylor-mq6fk

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fucking Nobody

  • @SonsOfLorgar

    @SonsOfLorgar

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not to mention the shaped charge effect you get on the back end of a claymore style curved explosive...

  • @gillly11111
    @gillly111112 жыл бұрын

    It would be great if you guys could do a meat/ballistics gel comparison of the fragmentation of grenades or other devices,great footage again guys, thanks.

  • @ZeeCaptainRon
    @ZeeCaptainRon Жыл бұрын

    Hollywood directors should be forced to watch this video if they want to depict using hand grenades in movies. They seem to think you can blow a car 10 feet in the air using a grenade.

  • @TattooedNSnappedBack

    @TattooedNSnappedBack

    11 ай бұрын

    My favorite is hididng behind a door way in a gun fight like bullets dont go through sheet rock

  • @ulfhedtyrsson
    @ulfhedtyrsson2 жыл бұрын

    Love this video concept. More please

  • @kreator5092
    @kreator50922 жыл бұрын

    Keep it up! You always make my day with a new vid ;D

  • @FreshCoastKnife
    @FreshCoastKnife2 жыл бұрын

    I love the videos, on test like these I would be interested in seeing the addition of some kind of over pressure rupture disk.

  • @angrydingus5256
    @angrydingus52562 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always. This sort of confirms my own belief that grenades aren't a sure thing. Probably 10x more useful indoors where the concussive force will be amplified but the shrapnel is literally hit or miss.

  • @Shinzon23

    @Shinzon23

    2 жыл бұрын

    Depends on whether or not you want to also set things on fire as well because I have heard of some fragmentation grenades that also have little tiny flecks of Willie Pete in them

  • @alna2530

    @alna2530

    2 жыл бұрын

    There's two main types of grenades. Offensive and defensive, Most grenades you'll see are defensive and are meant to maim, wound, and potentially kill and act as an area of denial device. An offensive grenade would be like the german potato masher or stick grenades which are packed with enough high explosives to create a blast wave that within a certain distance will turn your insides into meat jello. They're meant to kill and are usually a danger to their handlers as well due to their nature.

  • @TucsonHat

    @TucsonHat

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Shinzon23 it's my understanding that the use of incendiary devices as a weapon (as opposed to as an illumination device) is a war crime. Although I'm not really sure anymore, Ive seen videos of WP artillery shells being used during the day and I can't imagine the goal was to make the area brighter. But WP definitely isn't being used inside of off./def. hand grenades. Some smoke grenades do use white phosphorus tho

  • @SonsOfLorgar

    @SonsOfLorgar

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Shinzon23 WP shells and grenades are exclusively designed as instant visual smoke consealment, it does not hide IR signatures more than the instant it goes off. That said, smoke is not only used for screening, but also to blind, the latter is usually done by mortars or howitzers with non-WP smoke as it's a firemission where 1-2 pieces in a 4 piece battery fires smoke while the others fire impact or airburst HE/FRAG, all of them directly on top of a designated target gridref. /120mm Mortar crew

  • @Shinzon23

    @Shinzon23

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SonsOfLorgar they're also used to set things on fire and make people scream,run around, and die painfully if that sort of thing is required as well. Seen plenty of footage in which smoke shells are used to an absurd degree which is not using it to smoke things you're using it to set whatever they're fired at on fire as well...

  • @bobbyhill7948
    @bobbyhill79482 жыл бұрын

    I hope you guys do more videos with M 80s this past Fourth of July my friend got a hold of a couple decided to put it inside of a old monitor and got a face full of glass with one piece completely going through his cheek luckily he didn’t lose any body parts and still has his vision

  • @DASSAMWASHERELP
    @DASSAMWASHERELP2 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I really enjoyed it, because i had like three or four of those training grenades as a kid and always wonderef if they were converted by drilling a hole in the bottom and if they could just be welded up. Also, if you test something with fragmentation again, can you put up some Gallon Jugs filled with water around it? Like one "ring" at 5 m, another at 10 m, etc.. It would be interesting to see the hydrostatic shock if they get hit, to kind of get a feeling of the energy they contain. Once again thanks for the great work. Keep it up. PS: After thinking about it, could you also compare the fragmentation pattern of an elevated (like 50cm) grenade and an grenade that lies on the ground?

  • @K0ester
    @K0ester2 жыл бұрын

    Oh hell yea! New video

  • @TheRunAndGun10
    @TheRunAndGun102 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video!

  • @enigma3383
    @enigma33832 жыл бұрын

    I wanna see them try doing the nail bomb from Last of Us

  • @eschdaddy
    @eschdaddy2 жыл бұрын

    I recommend using play-dough as a hole filler. It’s cheap and much more robust than tape.

  • @843SouthernPride
    @843SouthernPride2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome work guys give yourself a pat on the back. Seems like y'all had ol Murphy hanging around with yall.

  • @stefankolev2197
    @stefankolev21972 жыл бұрын

    The F1 grenade is obviously nicknamed Limonka. The people who made the nickname possibly never tasted pineapple. Lemons were available in the soviet union though, especially before Christmas. Lucky ones were able to buy bananas and oranges too. In Bulgaria there was a saying: Портокалите у нас идват само с дядо Мраз.

  • @thunderclipper
    @thunderclipper2 жыл бұрын

    M61 grenade has pieces of ore fragmented metal inside, the casing wasn’t meant to contribute.

  • @DudeInWalmart
    @DudeInWalmart2 жыл бұрын

    Nice. Love this videos.

  • @aeddinlewis5713
    @aeddinlewis57132 жыл бұрын

    Nice y’all gave that butterfly ptsd 😂

  • @williamsmith474
    @williamsmith4742 жыл бұрын

    M26 has a coil of pre notched wire inside and comp b explosive

  • @alna2530
    @alna25302 жыл бұрын

    Just wondering if you added a fragmentation core in these like many defensive grenades have or if it was just a straight load of HEs and a cap?

  • @Carolina_Reaper_Sleeper
    @Carolina_Reaper_Sleeper2 жыл бұрын

    My father was a welder by trade and had got me a surplus grenade one year. I asked him to weld up the bottom to make it more realistic. Still sits on my desk. Is my dog going to get shot?

  • @dirk480

    @dirk480

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just have a boating accident

  • @jakegarrett8109

    @jakegarrett8109

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, but I think those are more commonly planted by the AFT (if they do prosecute you for a planted grenade, check the serial numbers, apparently they may forget to scratch those off when they plant one that's registered to the ATF)

  • @PilotTed

    @PilotTed

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think you can have a inert grenade with a closed bottom, though I am not 100% sure, I think it depends on state and such.

  • @TAR3N
    @TAR3N2 жыл бұрын

    What about the frag coil that are in most modern grenades ? Or the sectionalized hull of the M-67 ? Are they clone correct or is it just a steel hull ?

  • @TeamMSound
    @TeamMSound2 жыл бұрын

    Tries to recreate the new stackable modular grenades. Greetings from Germany

  • @M.H.D.actual

    @M.H.D.actual

    2 жыл бұрын

    That would be awesome, I'd be interested to see how many could be stacked together, and how awkward they might be to throw or toss.

  • @isaiahcampbell488

    @isaiahcampbell488

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@M.H.D.actual or lob from a ballista...thank you Task and Purpose.

  • @MaddMizz
    @MaddMizz2 жыл бұрын

    Great video.

  • @TheKruze88
    @TheKruze882 жыл бұрын

    concussion grenades are very different than frags. German steihlhandgrenate vs a pineapple grenade

  • @topa1798
    @topa17982 жыл бұрын

    awesomee!!! thank you !!

  • @AC9T
    @AC9T2 жыл бұрын

    Cool vid. Somehow, I had never heard of this model grenade. In the 80s, I had a surplus M57 frag and a "pineapple" (forgot M designation) hull and practiced throwing each. As a teen I presumed war with Russia was imminent thanks to the cold war looming over our heads. Then the movie Red Dawn came out but, I digress. Great channel!

  • @SonsOfLorgar

    @SonsOfLorgar

    2 жыл бұрын

    My older brother brought a deactivated pineapple hull back home with him from a foreign exchange student high school year in Sacramento CA during the late '80ies, I never got the idea to practice throwing it though, despite the Soviet Union beeing less than 6h away by boat eastwards and Poland or DDR about 8h by boat due south... I even have early memories of greeting Polish portrait painting "student tourists" at the door when I was a primary school kid. It's only as an adult that I found out that they most likely were Polish GRU intelligence, as my father was a serving Costal artillery staff Lt. Col. at the time...

  • @sampointau
    @sampointau2 жыл бұрын

    Umm, the second M26 style grenade may've been made from sheet steel like the genuine, but it lacked the interior coil of pre segmented wire that the case covers, that's what causes the fragments in the M26 from memory.

  • @Jimmy-sb3fc
    @Jimmy-sb3fc2 жыл бұрын

    "It's not always fun and games here at Ordnance Lab". Seriously? You guys get to blow shit up every day!!!

  • @Matt-dc8lp
    @Matt-dc8lp2 жыл бұрын

    Moral of the story...all would suck to be close to.

  • @FAZMANFAZER
    @FAZMANFAZER5 ай бұрын

    I actually have a F1 I don’t have the fuse for it, but I have a brown cap for it. It did pretty good in this video despite having less power than most of the grenades I guess that’s why they’re still being used in wars across the world

  • @_Kommissar_

    @_Kommissar_

    3 ай бұрын

    The Explosive filler amount doesn't matter that much, just changes how fast the shrapnel is moving

  • @FAZMANFAZER

    @FAZMANFAZER

    3 ай бұрын

    @@_Kommissar_ Oh, well that’s good to know. Thank you.

  • @joenobody2260
    @joenobody22602 жыл бұрын

    Did you add a fragmentation coil to your “clone correct” m26? If not how is it clone correct? Obviously sheet metal is more clone correct than cast iron but how can you say you’re testing fragmentation without a fragmentation coil?

  • @dirk480

    @dirk480

    2 жыл бұрын

    What is the fragmentation coil?

  • @dirk480

    @dirk480

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChevTecGroup thanks for the detailed description. I never knew this but I wasn’t in the military either. You sound like you were

  • @marvindebot3264

    @marvindebot3264

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dirk480 Notched High tensile wire to be totally correct so much harder and fractures like tool steel.

  • @tomcrews8467
    @tomcrews84672 жыл бұрын

    Without internal fragmentation coils they're just pipe bombs. Its the coil that produces the shrapnel.

  • @martkbanjoboy8853

    @martkbanjoboy8853

    2 жыл бұрын

    The American MII grenade started off with a detonator and tnt filling. It gave inferior fragmentation supposedly. Supposedly the grenade switched to a plain fuse entering the charge material which was changed to 'EC Blank Powder.' That must have been a US Army technical specification. There is no further information on that material that is easily found. Supposedly the design changes gave superior fragmentation.

  • @thyest_boi9936
    @thyest_boi99362 жыл бұрын

    If the grenade were laid on its side as if it were thrown would it’s lethality and fragmentation pattern be significantly different?

  • @rustknuckleirongut8107

    @rustknuckleirongut8107

    2 жыл бұрын

    This I want to know also. Having a grenade stand like that is basically like flipping a coin and having land on its edge and not moving. It might happen, but not often enough to care about the result. I would think the lethality would be massively improved from laying the grenade on its side, because standing it basically means you have a cone of shrapnel moving upwards only. In standing mode I would think the lower half shrapnel cone plows into the ground, the middle ring shrapnel moves at ankle height until it hits anything higher than ankle height and the top half shrapnel being left to do almost all the damage work.

  • @johnnybagofdoughnuts4193
    @johnnybagofdoughnuts41932 жыл бұрын

    Wow very interesting thought. Some Grenades aren’t decommissioned, just fake castings.

  • @MarkiusFox
    @MarkiusFox2 жыл бұрын

    Grenade: 0 Butterfly: 1

  • @HydraX_pain
    @HydraX_pain2 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if these guys could manufacture and make some 37mm explosive round prototypes if you can't get your hands on a 40mm

  • @HydraX_pain

    @HydraX_pain

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@justotalkalottashit8392 I know but it would seem like a fun project just a nice little one and done like the army's xm8 trial

  • @szabib2144
    @szabib21443 ай бұрын

    So if one was to go off, is your best bet to lay on the ground, because it seems like the shrapnel goes upwards, but still can’t forget about that concussion effect.

  • @geodkyt
    @geodkyt11 ай бұрын

    Can you do a demo of a grenade with the coiled notched frag wire lijing the inside of the body that the M26 actually had in service?

  • @xXTepicwinTXx
    @xXTepicwinTXx2 жыл бұрын

    Now these are the real questions we should be asking in life

  • @Bangmomsmakebombs
    @Bangmomsmakebombs2 жыл бұрын

    Could you guys do a little video doing a tour of you facility and range? I think that would be pretty cool...

  • @mulletmann6558
    @mulletmann65582 жыл бұрын

    seems like a good 60% of the damage was nearly straight up...might be different when thrown because of the way it lays on the ground...but yeah it is generally known to hit the fucking floor when a grenade lands.

  • @brandonedwards6539
    @brandonedwards6539 Жыл бұрын

    Forgot the frag ribbon on the inside. From everything I've heard from guys who have time with all three, was that the 26 produced more consistent casualties than the 33 and later, the 67

  • @moitoi4064
    @moitoi40642 жыл бұрын

    I was about to ask you if the butterfly survived the grenade blast but you gave the answer right away as if you read my mind. Lol.

  • @SUNUVAGUN
    @SUNUVAGUN2 жыл бұрын

    I would like to see measurements of the concussive forces to demonstrate blast injuries.

  • @Mr-pi1uc
    @Mr-pi1uc2 жыл бұрын

    I think some ballistic gel dummies would be interesting,but probably easier said then done it's not on my dime

  • @5yearsago5yearsago29
    @5yearsago5yearsago292 жыл бұрын

    Nice video

  • @WvlfDarkfire
    @WvlfDarkfire2 жыл бұрын

    So excite!

  • @mikecarlson6416
    @mikecarlson64162 жыл бұрын

    the cast iron hull tend to break into large pieces of fragmentation thus makes it less likely to do actual damage, for training purpose I think they are fine

  • @jantschierschky3461
    @jantschierschky34612 жыл бұрын

    That butterfly has now ptsd.

  • @madcapmagician6018
    @madcapmagician60182 жыл бұрын

    great video btw 😁👍🇺🇸

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