For the questions about Securitas and the Security Guard. Deposition testimony revealed that the building was equipped with a single button security alarm intended to evacuate the building in an emergency. The security guard testified that she had never been trained on, and wasn't even aware that the button existed. In her testimony she stated that if she had known about the button, she would have hit it. I think the large pay out from Securitas is less about the guard's performance and more about the security firm's training practices. Though keep in mind, all defending party insurer's decided to pay out on their policy limits instead of taking this to trial. Avoiding official guilt-placement was a large motivating factor for this decision. So the pay-outs do not necessarily imply guilt and we should remember that when looking at complex cases such as this.

@a3ttr1

2 жыл бұрын

In my younger days I worked for several companies as a security guard. Most times the alarm systems in places was not working or malfunctioning and really no one knew how the alarm system worked since it was the clients system. Very few times at the places I worked did the companies maintain the security system. In high fire risk places we was told just keep a water bottle on us and pour water on anything smoking. I have had to work new banks where the money was moved in but the alarm systems was not installed yet. If guards was not under a NDA at all times you would hear some crazy stories. Most guards are under paid, have little training, and are there to just to make insurance companies happy. Maybe it would be a good subject for a video in the future.

@TravisAviation

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for clearly replying to this, as it seems it is a nearly direct response. This explains more and I was not fully aware of the legal proceedings, which is why I left my comment intentionally open to not fully knowing all the details. It could be the case she was not trained, or was advised it is best to say she wasn't (hindsight for everyone involved). I am not saying she lied, just pointing out possibilities. I still think it is extreme for this large payout from Securitas, and might indicate a much larger internal issue. I doubt much will be involved in security training except maybe in Securitas if it still remains a company after. This is a one in a million issue(so far) in Florida and quite possibly the U.S. at least not involving earthquakes or other natural causes. Well, very interesting information to ponder. I hope it is all taken seriously, but I think most of us know that only a handful of main points will be taken, and the others will blow away in the billion dollar wind. I do want to thank you greatly for your content, and I appreciate all the work(even though it might sound like I was conflicting). I was just bringing up a noticeable point. I have watched your videos on this from the start, and you have been the best source of information. I would choose your company and you to provide services for me if I ever have the need in the future. Thank you for your private, and public service!

@johnmccallum8512

2 жыл бұрын

@@TravisAviation Securitas is a huge International secutity Company it will survive it has as of 2020 over 355000 employees I doubt that it will feel the loss of $500M.

@maud2739

2 жыл бұрын

Fire alarm system log and monitoring 01:15:29-01:16:39: 01:15:29 Logs Trouble. This is probably when the deck collapsed. In the lobby, it was a very loud crash followed by rumbling, dust, and car alarms. All they could see from the lobby was cars sticking up out of an “abyss.” 01:15:46 Logs Fire from the activation of the lobby pull switch. Josh states Shamoka failed to activate it, but she is the only person who could have done so. This is the alarm that triggered monitoring to call 911. 01:16:39 Central Alarm Control calls 911. Four 911 calls 01:16:27-01:17:49: At 01:17:49, Shamoka calls 911 and provides an accurate address and description of the emergency. This is after three aborted 911 calls (01:16:27, 01:17:06, and 01:17:34) where we can hear panicky residents screaming conflicting instructions at her as she tried to get the correct address. The Nirs were telling her to call it an earthquake. Shamoka called it an explosion downward. No one knew what had happened. Calls to residents 1:18-1:22: After activating the fire alarm at 01:15:46 and making the 911 calls at 01:16:27, 01:17:06, 01:17:34, and 01:17:49, Shamoka starts calling individual residents to tell them to evacuate. Building collapses at 1:22: The north part of the lobby, not far from the security desk, collapses into the garage. Shamoka is only a few feet away from the collapse, and the darkened lobby is filled with dust and acrid smells. The front door is locked for lack of power. She has no idea what has happened. Escapes and guides survivors 1:22-1:27: Shamoka tries to escape through the valet window, but the porte-cochere has collapsed and is blocking her way. She re-enters the lobby and exits to find the the collapsed deck. Climbing down to the garage level, she encounters Ileana Monteagudo (611) and helps her climb out at 01:26. Shamoka then encounters a family of four and helps them escape from the garage level. Assists police 1:28: Shamoka climbs out of the garage and presents herself to assist the police at 1:28. Her injuries include cracked ribs and bruises; she has to use crutches in the following days.

@TravisAviation

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnmccallum8512 I was not aware of the size of the company, and am sort of scared of that in this case. Does that mean they do not properly train all their employees? Anyone who has worked for such a large company is probably saying yes. But sad to hear they will hardly have much of a loss here. Like I said in another reply, this will likely not happen again like this. I don't like to hear that they have half of the blame still(to pay), but I would rather them somehow have higher expectations or maybe more standardized certification requirements in security(which are probably there somewhat already). Loose thoughts anyway...

It is hard to believe that it has been a year since this happened.

@electrictroy2010

Жыл бұрын

BUILDING INTEGRITY HAS NO INTEGRITY. That’s why this video blames the security guard. Frak this channel .

@citizenstranger

Жыл бұрын

@@electrictroy2010 you got some pretty sus subscriptions there boy. and you spam the same comment multiple times... i dunno man.

@Viperwon

4 ай бұрын

3 years now

I got out of my condo shortly after this happened. I had a baby due in a month and my husband was grilling outside and was moving a pot of hot water when his foot went through the deck. Meanwhile my basement kept flooding because of improper drainage outside my front yard and instead basically made it my problem to protect my basement. Our HOA collected 600 in fees a few times a year to “put towards our decks” but let them get so bad that we could only do a few at a time. Several of us asked where our money went because there were many problems, increased fees with bare minimum changing and there were under 30 condos. I will never rejoin an HOA or condo complex in my life. Glad I got out.

@-._.-KRiS-._.-

Жыл бұрын

Yep, HOAs get to tell you how tall your grass can be on a Tuesday, can deny allowing you to build a shed in your backyard and can deny allowing you to replace your lawn with xeriscaping for easier upkeep. For a country that doesn't like being told what to do we sure do like having other people tell us what we can do with our own property.

@itzchaseyboi

Жыл бұрын

My heart goes out to you! I have stayed on top of the coverage since the initial report of this happening that fateful night. So glad you got out safely!

The owners failed to do any building repair in 40 years, but the security company has to pay for most of the damages because the security guard failed to push a button in the very short time she had while the building was crumbling around her? WTF? And the guard shouldn't have needed to push the fire alarm anyway, it should have started automatically due to all the broken sprinkler pipes. If the building had held up a few years longer, of course the owners would have blamed the government for loosing their home after failing the 40 year inspection and getting emergency-evicted due to the immediate danger.

@TheEmpressMouse

2 жыл бұрын

Or a loss in property value due to required disclosures when selling any condos.

@maud2739

2 жыл бұрын

Shamoka didn’t even know the button existed.

@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheEmpressMouse I don't remember any written thing stating disclosure for future assessments, at least not in my state. I know you have to as owner. But verbal is nothing. There might be one in the pile of lawyer stuff. Tho.

@TheEmpressMouse

2 жыл бұрын

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 I’m not quite sure what you mean but here goes. In FL a sale of a condo requires full disclosure of any structural problems, a failed assessment, etc. Imagine trying to get a second mortgage, pull out equity, or sell it outright when the current owner paid $750,000 or more. But after everything is disclosed the value drops to $450,000. They might have had $100,000 in equity one day and be $200,000 under the next. But they still should’ve figured out something. The condo was supposed to have a large fund to be used for repairs/improvements. Where is it? Building Integrity also said that a company should’ve been out there to shore it up to prevent collapse until something could be done. They decided to replace the roof first. For weeks before the collapse, residents remember the whole building vibrating due to the constant jackhammering everyday. I’m no engineer but vibrations throughout that building could not have helped.

@TheEmpressMouse

2 жыл бұрын

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 The association was ready to hire another company to come to estimate repairs so they could get bids and get it safe but someone(s) got the city building inspector to go to the association meeting. He told them they had a “healthy building” and not to worry for now. They then decided to wait a few more years before doing anything. Why would a city building inspector be at an association meeting? Who got him there? Anything exchanged? Seems so suspect. An investigation, indictment, trial, and imprisonment should be the inspector’s future. Building Integrity tells about it in an earlier video. The first estimate for costs came in at $12 million and a few years later it was $15 million.

Quite sad that they scapegoated the security company for half the damages. A lone security guard cannot be blamed for any part of a building failure. This is why bad people do what they do, they can weasel out of damages and have a net gain overall.

@maud2739

2 жыл бұрын

Fire alarm system log and monitoring @-@: @ Logs Trouble. This is probably when the deck collapsed. In the lobby, it was a very loud crash followed by rumbling, dust, and car alarms. All they could see from the lobby was cars sticking up out of an “abyss.” @ Logs Fire from the activation of the lobby pull switch. Josh states Shamoka failed to activate it, but she is the only person who could have done so. This is the alarm that triggered monitoring to call 911. @ Central Alarm Control calls 911. Four 911 calls @-@: At @, Shamoka calls 911 and provides an accurate address and description of the emergency. This is after three aborted 911 calls (@, @, and @) where we can hear panicky residents screaming conflicting instructions at her as she tried to get the correct address. The Nirs were telling her to call it an earthquake. Shamoka called it an explosion downward. No one knew what had happened. Calls to residents @-@: After activating the fire alarm at @ and making the 911 calls at @, @, @, and @, Shamoka starts calling individual residents to tell them to evacuate. Building collapses at @: The north part of the lobby, not far from the security desk, collapses into the garage. Shamoka is only a few feet away from the collapse, and the darkened lobby is filled with dust and acrid smells. The front door is locked for lack of power. She has no idea what has happened. Escapes and guides survivors @-@: Shamoka tries to escape through the valet window, but the porte-cochere has collapsed and is blocking her way. She re-enters the lobby and exits to find the the collapsed deck. Climbing down to the garage level, she encounters Ileana Monteagudo (611) and helps her climb out at @. Shamoka then encounters a family of four and helps them escape from the garage level. Assists police @: Shamoka climbs out of the garage and presents herself to assist the police at @. Her injuries include cracked ribs and bruises; she has to use crutches in the following days.

@maudessen573

2 жыл бұрын

Timeline: Security Guard Shamoka Furman Activities at CTS on June 24, 2021 Hears a loud crash in the lobby that sounds like it came from the elevator shaft. 01:10 The fire alarm system logs Trouble as the deck collapses loudly, followed by rumbling. 01:15:29 The pull switch in the lobby is activated and the system logs Fire, which triggers the monitoring system. 01:15:49 Aborted 911 call with yelling in background. NOTE: This is the call Josh chose to feature in his video. 01:16:27 Central Alarm Control calls 911. 01:16:39 Aborted 911 call. 01:17:06 Aborted 911 call. 01:17:34 Calls 911 to report the emergency and the address. NOTE: Josh did NOT to use this call in his video. 01:17:49 Makes calls to individual residents to tell them to evacuate. >01:17:49 Building collapses. 01:22 Helps Ileana Monteagudo (611) and a family of four escape from the garage. 01:26 Presents herself to assist the police. 01:28

@maudessen573

2 жыл бұрын

@@maud2739 Sorry…copy and paste fail. See next reply.

@_PatrickO

2 жыл бұрын

@@maud2739 You did that thing where you blame a collapse from years of neglect on a untrained lowly paid security guard. Grow up. Blame those responsible for the collapse, not nonsense about how a fire alarm in the middle of the night changes anything. It changes nothing.

@maud2739

2 жыл бұрын

@@_PatrickO You are mistaking me for Josh Porter. I posted data to prove that Shamoka Furman is a hero.

This post-mortem is chilling. In hindsight, there were so many opportunities to change course and save this building and the lives sheltered within. My heart goes out to the community--they are all affected by this.

@qwerty112311

2 жыл бұрын

That’s how every disaster goes. Airplane crashes, industrial accidents, structural issues, etc. it isn’t a single event, it’s a series of events that individually are not catastrophic, but when the stars align and all those issues line up 💥

@juzoli

2 жыл бұрын

In hindsight, we are always pretty damn smart. The problem is, 100% perfection is impossible, and even getting close to it is damn expensive, so we wouldn’t even have big buildings at all with that mentality. So we MUST take risks, balancing between costs and safety. We can’t over-reinforce everything beyond reason. But we can learn from past mistakes, to at least avoid repeating those, and gradually improving standards over time, wherever it is needed. It means we will always have mistakes, but it should be rare, and less frequent over time. And it should always result in change of policies, so it is not repeated. The problem is that these days, we are pretty good at building structures which never collapse, so it rarely happens… So when there are imminent signs of an actual collapse, it is not taken seriously. Like in this case…

@reoproedros

2 жыл бұрын

the planning of the future at the beginning of the 20th century was planned to build over and over again .it is not only the devices , it is the whole scene

@juzoli

2 жыл бұрын

@@qwerty112311 Yeah, there are a lot of stars out there, and it is impossible to prepare for all possible such alignments…

@SusiesRepeat

2 жыл бұрын

The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history.

I know for many, this channel has been the single light for many trying to make sense of what happened here. Thank you for this channel for everything they've done to explain the cause, and chain of events that lead to this tragedy.

Beautiful job, Josh. Thank you for the countless hours you’ve put into the CTS series over the past year.

@BuildingIntegrity

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Joe

Thank you for making this video, Josh. CTS is a tragic story that could have been prevented at many points in time, but sadly it wasn't. It's a story of corruption and incompetence from the very beginning - a shady disbarred character from Canada, an architecture/design firm with a poor reputation, a corrupt building department that didn't do its job, a poor design that used inadequately-sized columns with no column caps and a pool deck unwisely integrated into the building's core structure, very poor maintenance over four decades, heavy planter boxes installed on the deck that was never designed to carry those kinds of loads, construction next door causing further damage to the building, an incompetent HOA board seemingly more concerned with how the building lobby looked than with properly maintaining it, and in the last moments a security guard not trained for anything like what was happening who didn't pull the fire alarm after the pool deck collapsed - plus a lot of other things along the way. I will never set foot in ANY Florida high-rise condo. I hope this is was the last collapse we see down there, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is another one some day. RIP all those unfortunate souls who perished needlessly in this horrific but very preventable tragedy.

@TheEmpressMouse

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, that guard was incompetent. Maybe training would help but that 911 phone call was pathetic.

@TheEmpressMouse

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, the lobby. They were putting lipstick on a pig. It’s still a pig.

@sootikins

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheEmpressMouse I was about to say that myself. Training would probably not have helped that guard IMO. Having cost her employer a $500M+ settlement I think we can safely say she won't be guarding any buildings anytime soon. At least I hope not.

@_PatrickO

2 жыл бұрын

That guard has nothing to do with anything. All security guards are paid bottom dollar and are there to pretend you have security, one out of shape person in a guard shack is not security. The idea that he should have known the building was going to fall is stupid and anyone stating that is out of touch with reality. The only ones who knew how bad it was were with the engineering company. All other blame is with residents since they owned the building and were the ones ultimately not maintaining it and ignoring issues.

@KirkHermary

2 жыл бұрын

@@_PatrickO the pool deck collapsed, and pieces of the building were coming down like concrete rain. Unless the guard has an extremely low IQ it would be clear that the building was collapsing.

Thank you. One of the best ways to honor the memory of those who paid the ultimate price is to perform an honest, open, and complete analysis so that we may learn from the tragedy and safety can be improved going forward. Commercial aviation safety has improved greatly in large part because people feel safe to tell the whole truth without fear of reprisals; we could improve safety in many other sectors of our society if we could do the same such as construction, medicine, law enforcement, and so on. This summary is a good example.

@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823

2 жыл бұрын

I don't buy that airlines are truthful. Please see that accident where 9 people were sucked out of the plane. I believe 4-5 were either thrown into the engines or right into space. I remember this because one young man's parents preferred if he was obliterated into the engines, over just thrown out into nothing. This was the Dc-10 door lock flaw. They tried to blame the ground crew. When their own evidence showed it was their own design at fault. His parents got the material from them after the case was over. There wasn't enough left to prove for a fact who was pulled into the engines. They actually landed. I remember now.

@tookitogo

2 жыл бұрын

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Sooo… you say you don’t trust airlines, but then talk about “their” cargo door design, which wasn’t the airline, but the aircraft manufacturer. I don’t think you’ve got a clear and thorough enough understanding of aviation to be disputing the (absolutely true) statement that the aviation industry is safe because of how rigorously it investigates and reacts to incidents.

@maryconner9409

2 жыл бұрын

​@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 I think you are referring to United Flight 811, which was a Boeing 747, not a DC-10. Boeing already knew of a flaw in the doors and the FAA had issued an airworthiness directive to have it fixed. The NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board) originally didn't have the cargo door (it was later found) to inspect, and so had to test doors in other aircraft to try to figure out what happened. Later, the cargo door was recovered, and United had an incident on the ground where a closed and locked cargo door opened on its own, which was traced to flaws in the electrical system. The NTSB issued a revised report based on the new evidence. The "airlines" (in this case you probably mean Boeing, the manufacturer) don't get to make determinations on their own. While the NTSB was wrong initially, their reports have to be based on the actual evidence they have at the time. They did know that theoretically, if the motors were to turn on, the locking sectors weren't strong enough to hold the door closed (the subject of the FAA airworthiness directive), but there were lockouts to prevent the motors from turning on if the door was properly closed. They did have the previous circumstance of the DC-10 door lock flaw, where ground crew using force to close and lock a door had damaged the locking mechanism. Saying that ground crew damaged the locking mechanism isn't "blaming the ground crew." That's just the first step. From there you go to the manufacturer ("fix your door so that the ground crew can't damage it"), and management of the airline (training of ground crews, making sure management doesn't penalize ground crews for scratching flights if the door won't close without force). That's the whole "without fear of reprisal" thing. People need to feel that they won't be fired if they shut the whole thing down because of something seemingly trivial.

The security guard probably had NO CLUE what was happening, that’s why she didn’t alarm residents. Sounds like most people who were there didn’t know exactly what happened immediately, including some first responders. This isn’t something we’re used to seeing in America. Josh, I love your channel, but I don’t think you should blame the guard. Remember, she helped an elderly resident out.

@johnbergstrom2931

2 жыл бұрын

Because she was fucking stoned and dead asleep...

@margaretmclaren4685

2 жыл бұрын

I saw the guard's mention presented more as this was just a smaller act that was the last chance these residents had to protect them from dying in the collapse.

@anthonymoreschi3672

2 жыл бұрын

@@margaretmclaren4685 ; I agree with you on this, but also would add that, in the future, it might be good to have procedures or sensors in-place to help another person put in that position to know what needs to be done and have the information in-front of them in some form to act in a more decisive manner. Just unfortunate all-around.

@AyeCarumba221

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah to me it seems like a terrible miscarriage of justice once again. And they want to blame the poor little security guard because that company carried a $500 million insurance policy, so let’s suck the money out of them rather than out of the people that might actually be responsible for the building collapsing.

@maud2739

2 жыл бұрын

Fire alarm system log and monitoring @-@: @ Logs Trouble. This is probably when the deck collapsed. In the lobby, it was a very loud crash followed by rumbling, dust, and car alarms. All they could see from the lobby was cars sticking up out of an “abyss.” @ Logs Fire from the activation of the lobby pull switch. Josh states Shamoka failed to activate it, but she is the only person who could have done so. This is the alarm that triggered monitoring to call 911. @ Central Alarm Control calls 911. Four 911 calls @-@: At @, Shamoka calls 911 and provides an accurate address and description of the emergency. This is after three aborted 911 calls (@, @, and @) where we can hear panicky residents screaming conflicting instructions at her as she tried to get the correct address. The Nirs were telling her to call it an earthquake. Shamoka called it an explosion downward. No one knew what had happened. Calls to residents @-@: After activating the fire alarm at @ and making the 911 calls at @, @, @, and @, Shamoka starts calling individual residents to tell them to evacuate. Building collapses at @: The north part of the lobby, not far from the security desk, collapses into the garage. Shamoka is only a few feet away from the collapse, and the darkened lobby is filled with dust and acrid smells. The front door is locked for lack of power. She has no idea what has happened. Escapes and guides survivors @-@: Shamoka tries to escape through the valet window, but the porte-cochere has collapsed and is blocking her way. She re-enters the lobby and exits to find the the collapsed deck. Climbing down to the garage level, she encounters Ileana Monteagudo (611) and helps her climb out at @. Shamoka then encounters a family of four and helps them escape from the garage level. Assists police @: Shamoka climbs out of the garage and presents herself to assist the police at @. Her injuries include cracked ribs and bruises; she has to use crutches in the following days.

The tragedy is that at so MANY points during this building's life, the deficiencies became apparent and could have been corrected, but never were. A fitting and sensitive final video in the CTS "series", thank you.

Literally nobody knew this was coming except Morabito, who didn't make it known to anyone else when they should've been informing all of the tenants what the situation was because it was their lives that were at risk. The front desk person didn't know the building was on the verge of collapsing or they would've thought to evacuate and/or tell emergency. If more people were aware of the situation with the deteriorating building then a lot more lives could've been saved even if nothing had been done to the building. I do also don't think Morabito might not have even understood that if the pool deck collapsed it would bring the whole building down. Maybe they only believed the pool deck was at risk. I can't believe it's already been a whole year. RIP to those who didn't make it.

@JelMain

2 жыл бұрын

And that's why their surveyor should be on negligence manslaughter charges.

@matt63m

2 жыл бұрын

Yes definitely, the lead engineer from Morabito had over two years to study the situation. He should have been aware of the potential for punching shear and should have realised that if the pool deck gave way then there was potential for the whole building to come down. And when the cracks started appearing around the edge of the pool deck he should have given the order to evacuate.

@JariJuslin

4 ай бұрын

​@@matt63m: Hindsight is always 20/20. We can blame Morabito for lot of stuff, but saying they should have known the pool deck will bring down the whole building is a stretch. If you look at the investigation over time, it took quite a while for the experts to figure out the mechanism behind that. Even seeing the report and knowing the building collapsed it was still not glaringly obviously to independent experts right away. So we cannot really call it *obvious*.

Amazing how you've reconstructed the story of the collapse over the course of last year. Watching your ongoing investigation has been harrowing but very informative as well. Whenever I spot cracks or rust or white fluid on a concrete ceiling or wall, I'm like: let's get the hell outta here!

@JelMain

2 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily white fluid, but dust too.

You covered more in one video than all the news channels combined over a year. Thanks!

@electrictroy2010

Жыл бұрын

BUILDING INTEGRITY HAS NO INTEGRITY. That’s why this video blames the security guard. Frak this channel .

“… fled Canada …” - that alone told me the residents were scrwd before the foundation was even poured.

This is terribble that they have shifted the blame to the security firm. It was the designers, the engineers and the buidlign inspectors, and the building owners who were all to blame. Is every other condo building in Miami safe?

@johnbergstrom2931

2 жыл бұрын

No, not every building... The vast majority are safe, surely.

@philipcournoyer7024

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks i didn't know this the Security Guard was negligent But she didn't cause the Champlain to collapse

@joes2085

2 жыл бұрын

The settlement doesn't place blame. It just hands out money. The agreed $ amounts are generally based on the limits of each firms insurance. SECURITAS is an international security firm with a larger insurance policy.

@johnbergstrom2931

2 жыл бұрын

@@joes2085 It doesn't legally assign blame, but it certainly implies it. Think Securitas just popped up and said "Hey, here's 500 mil, take it, it's no problem!" No fucking way...

@Hopeful_Libertarian

2 жыл бұрын

@@philipcournoyer7024 she wasn't negligent but her employer definitely was. But the builders & those trying to convince the residents the building was still in "great shape" shoulder the most blame.

The low-paid, minimally-trained security guard on-duty at the time, Shamoka Furman, was no worse than those found in 95% of condo lobbies, esp. graveyard shift. Let's face it, Duh HOA @ CTS cut corners everywhere, and ended up with an EPIC example of "you DON'T get what you DON'T pay for..." When this "WTF!?" UNprecedented bolt-from-the-blue event happened, she rallied, crawling through the valet window, and going BACK IN to rescue one or more victims. That her employer Securitas paid so much to the settlement--and so little to nothing to Ms. Furman--says a lot.

@shannon1446

2 жыл бұрын

Saw this after I responded. I wholeheartedly agree. That poor lobby security guard should not be blamed. If anybody thought this building was going down, it should have been evacuated. I’m thinking Shamoka was never trained on “the sound of the pool deck collapsing and what to do”.

@sootikins

2 жыл бұрын

@@shannon1446 Does it take specific training to know that when a big chunk of your property fall down go boom you need to hit the big red button???

@nnelg8139

2 жыл бұрын

@@sootikins she heard a loud noise, and did not know what it meant.

@johnbergstrom2931

2 жыл бұрын

@@nnelg8139 Well, she had eyes, right. I'm sure she had access to a flashlight...

@johnbergstrom2931

2 жыл бұрын

@@shannon1446 Shamoka is now flipping burgers, the only job she's barely qualified for...

RIP to all who so needlessly lost their lives that night, human and animal. This incident will always make me despairingly sad. I really despise corruption.

Josh, there are reports that the guard pulled the FIRE alarm but not the recently installed ALL-CALL alarm. Maybe an edit is warranted.

Can you imagine how Morabito felt the moment he heard the building went down?

Your videos always impress me but this one is absolutely the best! You told the story of how this tragedy was put into motion decades ago and how one corrupt and greedy person can influence others like him. This story shows how much we individually can effect so many other people and their lives. I pray that we never see this type of preventable loss of life ever again. May the victims rest peacefully, and their families embrace the beautiful memories of having them in their lives so they can one day move past this incredible loss. Thank you for being the voice of sanity and educating your audience on the details of how and why this happened.

Not mentioned was the resistance to the owners to having to pay for the necessary repairs.

@davenz000

2 жыл бұрын

So any apartment complex anywhere in the country?

@anneangstadt1882

2 жыл бұрын

Appears the condo board had never maintained adequate reserves from the beginning, nor did regular reserve studies. Not funding reserves incrementally over time means the repair costs have to be charged to the owners at when they happen, and the mostly non-wealthy ownesrs of CTS probably couldn't afford it. This whole story is a tragedy of failures at so many levels.

@Inkling777

2 жыл бұрын

You confuse all the owners with the board of this condo. Like HOA, those boards tend to be dominated by "my property values" types. In this case the board was eager to spend money on visual improvements that increased the perceived value but not structural improvements connected with its safety. And there was a move afoot for several yeas among some of the owners to replace that board with one that would approve the needed structural repairs.

@wigglymoose

2 жыл бұрын

yeah i would be interested to know how much the HOA board and management company knew, if they received Morabito’s reports, if they read them, if they understood them. Anne is right, if the HOA had been funding reserves (long term savings) well before this, they might have been able to cover it. with reserves underfunded, the board would either implement an emergency special assessment or have the special assessment go out to vote of owners. many HOA processes take time too, a vote of members probably had a 60 or 90 day timeline which just pushes back the board’s time to take action. as for reserves, i don’t know if they did this or not but the HOA should have hired an expert reserve study preparer on a regular basis to assess the building components, which would have been another opportunity to reveal the structural deficiencies and budget for repairs.

@seanfyodorovich5230

2 жыл бұрын

@@Inkling777 Hardly. They were up against a backlash of property owners who probably couldn't afford or didn't want to pay for those repairs since they were going to be extremely expensive.

Timeline: Security Guard Shamoka Furman Activities at CTS on June 24, 2021 Hears a loud crash in the lobby that sounds like it came from the elevator shaft. 01:10 The fire alarm system logs Trouble as the deck collapses loudly, followed by rumbling. 01:15:29 The pull switch in the lobby is activated and the system logs Fire, which triggers the monitoring system. 01:15:49 Aborted 911 call with yelling in background. NOTE: This is the call Josh chose to feature in his video. 01:16:27 Central Alarm Control calls 911. 01:16:39 Aborted 911 call. 01:17:06 Aborted 911 call. 01:17:34 Calls 911 to report the emergency and the address. NOTE: Josh did NOT use this call in his video. 01:17:49 Makes calls to individual residents to tell them to evacuate. >01:17:49 Building collapses. 01:22 Helps Ileana Monteagudo (611) and a family of four escape from the garage. 01:26 Presents herself to assist the police. 01:28

@johnbergstrom2931

2 жыл бұрын

You would be a terrible lawyer... You are trying, again and again and again, to prove the innocence of someone who, in terms of monetary damages, had been shown to be the MOST CULPABLE. She wasn't a superhero and probably not competent and she could have saved dozens of lives by simply opening her eyes and assessing the severity of the situation. The first time she called 911 she thought it was an earthquake for God's sake!

@crowfoot1199

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for repeatedly trying to present a more accurate timeline re what Furman was doing. I have tremendous respect for Josh and this channel but the phrasing used re Furman's actions/inactions was misleading.

@maudessen573

2 жыл бұрын

@@crowfoot1199 Shamoka is a victim too. To abuse an untrained worker who did the best she could to save lives on the one-year anniversary of this devastating, debilitating experience is impossible to justify. I fervently hope she does not see this video, or the many hateful comments it has triggered, before Josh takes it down and revises it.

@crowfoot1199

2 жыл бұрын

@@maudessen573 totally agree. Especially in light of the activation of the pull switch - I seem to recall hearing her say that she pulled the fire alarm but there was no noise (I don't recall which interview). Also she tried calling residents to warn them?? I just.. the way Josh presenting this info was really misleading.

@maudessen573

2 жыл бұрын

@@crowfoot1199 A lot of people assume that a fire alarm is always wired to trigger an audible alarm and evacuation announcements. That is not how CTS’s fire alarm system worked. But when they read that residents heard no announcements or sirens, they assume that no one activated the fire alarm.

For all of this building's failures, it performed amazingly well. It was obvious in 2018 that it needed urgent repairs, yet the building kept standing. It actually failed 2 weeks before the collapse, yet kept standing. The pool deck finally collapsed, taking critical columns with it, yet the building remained standing with the power on for another 7 minutes. A Building it is designed to protect its occupants. I'd argue that CTS actually did. Numerous people just ignored it. Engineers, contractors, architects, inspectors,etc. Any one of the people evacuating the building could have pulled a fire alarm, not just the security guard. They all failed to act. Now we know what happens when we fail to act. I also think we need to remember that the 1974 law requiring recertification every 40 years was because of another building collapse, in Miami, no less.

Definitely feels surreal how close to home this was and to think that's everyone can see it happening but no one went to action. Now I'm paranoid every time I get in a large building

@KirkHermary

2 жыл бұрын

I'll never step foot into a tall building in Florida. With so many incompetent and inept people and organizations from the construction to the oversight... I wouldn't be surprised in the least if we continue to see more and more of these collapses happen. Each tall building in Florida is just a ticking time bomb.

@neonhomer

2 жыл бұрын

Same here...

@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823

2 жыл бұрын

Look out for old landlords. They never want to spend any money. That's my experience

Josh, how many more times do we have to hear "so this never happens again" only for the large list of issues like this one to repeat again and again. R.I.P. and thank you Josh and your team.

Very well put together! Thank you for this, it really helps me get my head around this tragedy. I hope the families of all affected can find healing and closure.

🇨🇦in 1980 my dad found a great deal renting a condo from Canadian tire owners in Florida. We got there and our condo was not done. But the builder put us up in other beautiful condos in the area. Big buildings right on the ocean beach. All fun and games….

I will never forget the moment I saw and watched this unfold. I may be half way around the world but it touched me deeply. So avoidable and unnecesary... very tragic. May the families left behind find peace.

As a Brit living in a modest 340 year-old town house, the statement 'age related damage' applied to a building less than half the age of my sliding sash windows is a somewhat incomprehensible concept, and a shameful indictment of the greed and contempt for people's lives.

I heard on local news tonight that no reason for the collapse has been found. You would think they would educate themselves before making that statement. Roanoke, Va. Thank you Josh, our educator.

Josh i just also want to thank everyone that left a comment every comment was informative THANKS

I was in the hospital having my first child. What a crazy day. I couldnt even comprehend it on the news at that time

7:37 the Claridge at Pelican Bay. That’s a nice building I install the 3M window tint there. After surfside, they and many other buildings rushed to get started on repairs that had probably been planned for many years.

The amount of work you have put in, the clear, concise yet detailed analysis and explanation are exceptional. I can think of no more fitting way to honor those who lost their lives than by helping all us, whether industry professionals or members of the public in general, to understand what happened and prevent something like this from happening again.

Thank you Josh for the thoughtful 1 year memorial episode . And thank you for all the time to create the excellent episodes during the past year .

Concrete grain silo collapse in Iowa this week killing one, same scenario I believe, long term decay of structure, exposing rebar eventually leading to failure. Thanks for the concise, factual explanation of events, both structural and procedural that led up to this horrible disaster.

@JelMain

2 жыл бұрын

If you want to know what rough grain silos can be, watch the closing section of Platoon. I thought those buildings looked familiar, they were in the middle of London, where London City Airport is now. When I worked for Schweppes, we stored our juices next door!

Very well done Josh. You communicated key overview elements and made it clear it was all about public safety and a respectful remembrance of the victims. Like most disasters, it was not caused by one failure. A chain of failures occurred, beginning with the building and inspection process 40 years ago. Stop one or two of these failures and the chain is broken. This video should be the intro to a semester long analysis of this disaster for structural engineering students. Heavy heavy price to pay that must never be forgotten.

This channel has been the only one I have watched for facts on this terrible tragedy. You bring facts and an education to the surface. Thank you for the time and dedication you have invested into this tragedy to show us all how it could have happened. Let's hope we learn from this and hopefully it never happens again.

What I've learned after being on YT and so many "tragedies". They were almost all avoidable and there were always signs of catastrophic failure some good time before it happens but usually were ignored.

I'm attending the memorial today. Its heart wrenching.

I wonder how any other structures both in Florida and elsewhere were promoted, designed and built by sleazy operators and okayed by corrupt building officials. Thanks you Josh Porter for shining a spotlight on this tragedy and its causes.

At about 4:00AM PT I suddenly realized that it's the 1-year anniversary of the Champlain Towers collapse, and that a year ago the first responders of Surfside were just coming to the realization of what had happened. (I stay up all night.) Exactly a year ago I'd seen a notification on my phone about a condo collapse in Florida, and knew it was going to be bad. One of my fb friends said he heard a woman in the building saw a sinkhole out the window and told her husband on the phone. I told my friend that was ridiculous; when the cause was eventually found it wouldn't be a sinkhole that took that building down. As it turned out, the story of the woman (who was killed, sadly) was true as well as the "hole" she saw. But it wasn't actually a sinkhole. Security footage of the collapse became available in a day, maybe?

This is disappointing here, but I’ve come to expect disappointment from our system of jurisprudence. Blame the security guard, why not? Im sure its her fault that the frigging building collapsed. But seriously folks, what about whoever added serious tons of sand and pavers to the pool deck? And also made it so the pool deck could not drain properly ? What about probably tons and tons of granite and marble added to the building over the years because occupants wanted to really nifty spiffy finishes inside their buildings and apartments? What about the addition of a penthouse suite which it doesn’t seem clear if the weight of that was ever factored into the original building? What about responsibility for not properly maintaining the building and the rusting rebar and the Spalling concrete for years and years? What about who made the decision to add those enormous planters full of concrete and dirt to the building? It feels to me like our justice system is just simply about squeezing the maximum amount of money out of whoever has it the most, and the security company had a very nice $500 million insurance policy, so why not blame the poor little security guard for not pulling the alarm at 1:30 in the morning? But seriously now, which of us just because we heard a loud explosion somewhere at 1:30 in the morning would have decided to pull an alarm and evacuate the entire building? I would not have done that because I would’ve had a whole building full of really angry people. It was not at all conceivable that an entire building would collapse and I don’t think virtually anybody could have foreseen that. Or would you have imagined that would happen?

@maudessen573

2 жыл бұрын

Timeline: Security Guard Shamoka Furman Activities at CTS on June 24, 2021 Hears a loud crash in the lobby that sounds like it came from the elevator shaft. 01:10 The fire alarm system logs Trouble as the deck collapses loudly, followed by rumbling. 01:15:29 The pull switch in the lobby is activated and the system logs Fire, which triggers the monitoring system. 01:15:49 Aborted 911 call with yelling in background. NOTE: This is the call Josh chose to feature in his video. 01:16:27 Central Alarm Control calls 911. 01:16:39 Aborted 911 call. 01:17:06 Aborted 911 call. 01:17:34 Calls 911 to report the emergency and the address. NOTE: Josh did NOT to use this call in his video. 01:17:49 Makes calls to individual residents to tell them to evacuate. >01:17:49 Building collapses. 01:22 Helps Ileana Monteagudo (611) and a family of four escape from the garage. 01:26 Presents herself to assist the police. 01:28

@sheelfjohnson

2 жыл бұрын

Also, who knew at that point whether it was safer to stay in place or evacuate? If they were thinking it was an earthquake, most times you'd stay in place until it is over. It shouldn't have been on her shoulders to decide whether to evacuate. And if it had been, they would have trained her and shown her that that button existed and how to use it. I hope Ms. Furman doesn't see all of the hate comments, or doesn't take them to heart.

@AyeCarumba221

2 жыл бұрын

@@sheelfjohnson Yes I agree completely. To say that the guard should have known to evacuate the entire building is beyond absurd. Again, as I said earlier, our system of justice is not about justice, but about who has the deepest pockets.

@JelMain

2 жыл бұрын

What you have missed is the original design fault. The building was holding despite the extra load of marble and planters and soil and trees and penthouse. That wasn't the straw which broke the camel's back. It wasn't the grotty pillars. They were shored up by props. What killed it was the rebar along the top of the wall alongside the 87th Street walkway. Even there, the tenants have slightly missed their target suing the builders, because like all the other things which added to the load, it didn't trigger the collapse. What did, and we know it from the time it fell, was cyclic expansion and contraction of the pool deck by about 2cm every day. Wider when the sun shone, contraction when it set. That contraction eventually sheered the rebar clear off, it didn't pull out as it would if the weight of the planters and deck was the trigger, as you see further along the wall: that pulled out once the weight of the demolished tower landed on it. No, what you see where the pool deck was is what's called a zip-tie failure, one rod broke, the excessive strain transferred to those on either side, themselves under tension, they broke, and ping-ping-ping until they reached the edge of the jacusi, which provided exactly what was missing on the broad expanse. An expansion joint. To the west, it stopped when it reached concrete which hadn't been put under tension by cooling contraction, it had enough reserve to take the extra. What then happened is a shock wave of energy passed through the deck, much like firing a massive crossbow. It's called elastic release, it made the building heave. This is why the guard thought it was an earthquake, because the mechanics were identical. The only difference was one of scale: a quake would have taken most of Miami with it. Thankfully they're not on a rift zone. This just took the building, although everyone around felt the energy as a thump, an explosion. What you described were the links of a chain. You just missed the weakest one, the first one to fail. Normally, chains don't fail. They get pulled, and stand up to the strain. You've described a lot of pulls, but none enough to fail on its own. But when the weakest went, all the rest did their bit. The pillars bounced, and the support props were both no longer vertical nor under pressure from the deck, so fell away. When the garage pillars rebounded back into position, the props supporting them were no longer there, and they punched right through the deck. The building pillars had already failed, as the video shows, from the elastic release: slightly different in nature, the building pillars failed by collapsing, the deck pillars survived as columns supporting nothing, the deck was rubble at their base.

@electrictroy2010

Жыл бұрын

CONCRETE is what holds-up a building, not the rebar. Rebar is not strong enough to counteract gravity

Can't believe it has already been a year since this horrible tragedy occurred.I was consumed by it all last summer. I was actually earlier thinking about Surfside, not realizing that it was the one year anniversary. Excellent video, I learned a few things that I hadn't kept up on, like the settlements. You've done such an incredible job covering this tragedy and have learned a lot in the process, thank you, Josh!

The bottom line is the property owners did not pay the money to maintain the building. This should have no financial effect on anyone else, but it is costing us all; while families of many of the owners are benefitting.

I appreicate all of the countless hours you have spent informing people like me. We just failed our building inspections. And thanks to your channel i am confident reading my inspection report. This is very close to the Surfside situation regards to the concrete being stretched and little rebar. We have also grade beams spalling and tons of rebar exposed. If it werent for you, I'd have no clue what that means. I sent your videos to my HOA.

Let us not beat up the security guard too quickly: at least one tenant was helped to safety by the guard, was the guard trained for emergency situations or to receive parcels and keep the pool deck orderly? The condo association seemed too focused on saving money at the expense of maintenance.

@maud2739

2 жыл бұрын

Fire alarm system log and monitoring @-@: @ Logs Trouble. This is probably when the deck collapsed. In the lobby, it was a very loud crash followed by rumbling, dust, and car alarms. All they could see from the lobby was cars sticking up out of an “abyss.” @ Logs Fire from the activation of the lobby pull switch. Josh states Shamoka failed to activate it, but she is the only person who could have done so. This is the alarm that triggered monitoring to call 911. @ Central Alarm Control calls 911. Four 911 calls @-@: At @, Shamoka calls 911 and provides an accurate address and description of the emergency. This is after three aborted 911 calls (@, @, and @) where we can hear panicky residents screaming conflicting instructions at her as she tried to get the correct address. The Nirs were telling her to call it an earthquake. Shamoka called it an explosion downward. No one knew what had happened. Calls to residents @-@: After activating the fire alarm at @ and making the 911 calls at @, @, @, and @, Shamoka starts calling individual residents to tell them to evacuate. Building collapses at @: The north part of the lobby, not far from the security desk, collapses into the garage. Shamoka is only a few feet away from the collapse, and the darkened lobby is filled with dust and acrid smells. The front door is locked for lack of power. She has no idea what has happened. Escapes and guides survivors @-@: Shamoka tries to escape through the valet window, but the porte-cochere has collapsed and is blocking her way. She re-enters the lobby and exits to find the the collapsed deck. Climbing down to the garage level, she encounters Ileana Monteagudo (611) and helps her climb out at @. Shamoka then encounters a family of four and helps them escape from the garage level. Assists police @: Shamoka climbs out of the garage and presents herself to assist the police at @. Her injuries include cracked ribs and bruises; she has to use crutches in the following days.

Around the 4:45 mark, the video makes it sound like the Champlain Tower collapsed during the construction of 187. The people who follow you know that is not the case, but you went from talking about cracks from the Vibro Hammer, to the pool deck collapsing without giving a sense of a date line. I really enjoy your Surfside videos.

A mix of greed, lack of concern for your brothers and sisters, incompetence. So many signs and nothing was done. Yes, may it never happen again. May their souls Rest In Peace and may justice be done.

Though I no longer live in Florida, I was born and raised there and the tragedy of CTS is something that I have followed closely this past year through your site here on You Tube. I do very much thank you for all the time, effort and hard work that you have put into keeping all of us informed as to what happened and to the many theories and possibilities of why it happened. Bless you Sir for this as it is so appreciated. I feel I'm learning quite a bit from you concerning the construction industry.

@miriambucholtz9315

2 жыл бұрын

I lived in the Miami area from 1965-1978. By the last year or so, I was becoming increasingly agitated over the idea that I had to get out of there. I even convinced my father to take my stepmother and move (he went to Pt. Charlotte). Although I've never had the money to live in a condominium, I just felt so terribly uneasy about being in that area. I think that the general aura of corruption and people in positions of authority just not giving a damn about anything was behind all the weirdness I felt, but I'm glad I got out of there.

@WendyKS93

2 жыл бұрын

@@miriambucholtz9315 I was born and raised in NE Florida but the last 3 years I lived in Florida it was Key West due to having just married a man in the US Navy. Beautiful there but just not to my liking. I live happily in the North now and don't care to ever live in Florida again. I've never lived in a condo and I never will. I told my husband years ago he better understand that I would never live above the ground floor level of anything. In an emergency I want to be able to get outside to safety very easily and quickly. I'm not young anymore and it's one story or first floor level for me. Take care Miriam.

Great production! Thank you!

The frightening thing for me is the human nature factor. Who would have believed that a modern building could collapse in this day and age? It will never be known how many residents investigated the problem before realizing they needed to save themselves and just ran out of time. And I am not sure an evacution alarm would have overcome that delay; for many, seven minutes isn't enough time to overcome total disbelief. The Champlain tower collapse was a terrible tragedy for those who died and those who survived. My heart still goes out to them. Thanks for the updates and analysis.

@joanberkwitz2662

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Hindsight is a luxury. If she had evacuated the building (a hard choice to make, not knowing what was going on) it could have been much worse if something else was happening. She had no way of knowing that the building would fall, or which side of it would fall. She carries no blame, and she acted bravely to save others. Morabito should have a BIG finger pointed at them. The signs were there. They had the moral obligation to make it known that the building was unsafe. If they had taken the cracks in the retaining wall seriously, that were so clearly a sign of big trouble, they could have gotten the city involved, or the residents themselves. Always better to be proactive than not do enough.

@maudessen573

2 жыл бұрын

Timeline: Security Guard Shamoka Furman Activities at CTS on June 24, 2021 Hears a loud crash in the lobby that sounds like it came from the elevator shaft. 01:10 The fire alarm system logs Trouble as the deck collapses loudly, followed by rumbling. 01:15:29 The pull switch in the lobby is activated and the system logs Fire, which triggers the monitoring system. 01:15:49 Aborted 911 call with yelling in background. NOTE: This is the call Josh chose to feature in his video. 01:16:27 Central Alarm Control calls 911. 01:16:39 Aborted 911 call. 01:17:06 Aborted 911 call. 01:17:34 Calls 911 to report the emergency and the address. NOTE: Josh did NOT to use this call in his video. 01:17:49 Makes calls to individual residents to tell them to evacuate. >01:17:49 Building collapses. 01:22 Helps Ileana Monteagudo (611) and a family of four escape from the garage. 01:26 Presents herself to assist the police. 01:28

@staciasmith5162

2 жыл бұрын

If that leaning tower in San Francisco goes belly up, they won't be able to claim surprise, even if they try to.

Just attended a lecture of a forensic engineer who was assigned to this site! Thank you for the in-depth context.

Thanks for the recap. It's never just one thing that brings down a building, aircraft, ship, or industrial complex. It's a cascade of failures or oversights that starts sometimes well before the incident.

Since now we know the history of all of the buildings that corrupt Canadian guy built, it makes the thought of that one father who's son survived the collapse but still lives in Champlain Tower North the more disheartening. I hope they moved out of there for that kid's peace of mind and their safety.

This video points a lot of blame towards the security company. Maybe I missed some past videos, but how does the security company and the employee become the fall guy? I would suspect they do not have the most qualified people working there, but even a well trained security guard would likely have a hard time deciding to evacuate the building in the middle of the night. They are not structural engineers, and since the building was still standing, maybe some time for consideration was plausible. Hindsight is 20/20, and I know everyone would have evacuated if they knew. They were just the last person on the accident to have to make a decision, very similar to a pilot most of the time. And when shit hits the fan, even in an untrained event, who gets the blame? The last one. I do not agree this company or their insurance should have to pay such a large amount of the stake. Yes, the are a part of it, and they do deserve a share. Now knowing how aviation works, the government does put a price tag of around 10 million per person, which is likely why they quickly approved the 1 billion. Doing simple math you can see how close that is. I think half or at minimal a quarter of this money should be put into real ways to stop this in the future. Including proper investigations on the oldest buildings on the coastline, and moving inward to see if there are any issues. Making all this information public, and easily accessible would be the next step. I feel bad for all the victims and families, but I am unhappy that half of the financial outcome fell on the poorly ran modern day security company of a bad 7 minutes, rather than the real problems that were ignored for years. Like most safety related industries, the rules and regulations are written in blood. I hope the blood spilled on this day creates an intolerance for our country's future.

@k53847

2 жыл бұрын

I think that the majority of the blame is on the architect, contractor, structural engineer and the corrupt city and it's building department that enabled them. And the involvement of the building department doesn't end there, they were illegally selling streets, misleading residents and obstructing repairs until the end. But the structural consultants the association brought in certainly failed too.

@AyeCarumba221

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you about feeling badly that the blame was put on the security company. It appears that this was because they carried a lot of insurance. I think once again our legal system has demonstrated what a sham it is and the blame doesn’t really go to those who deserve it, but the penalties go to whoever has the deepest pockets. I think this is very in line with how people think nowadays sorry to say

@TravisAviation

2 жыл бұрын

@@AyeCarumba221 It may not be a direct comparison, but it would seem half the cost implies half the guilt. She seemed stunned and confused on the video where she could barely say words. Maybe she wasn't fluent, it is Miami after all, that is just bad speculation completely. But whatever the case is, it sounded like she was talking to other people and trying to figure out the situation. I would suspect someone came up to her during that phone call. She did handle things very poorly for sure, I agree there. But nearly half, wow! I think you are right, and they finger might have found the deeper pockets. Like he said in his pinned message, it was basically a settlement. Which means it could have been a lot more expensive for all the parties involved. Maybe it came down to an agreement of who can pay how much.

@alexandermckay8594

2 жыл бұрын

@@TravisAviation The issue here is that most of the people at fault are gone. These things end up as a game of musical chairs and Securitas was left standing when the music stopped. If they had the balls to go into court there's a possibility their "share" would have been reduced but the US courts have been rather flaky on litigation, especially for tragedies. Somebody must pay and unfortunately, most times any somebody will do.

@TravisAviation

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexandermckay8594 I agree. The problem with our culture is that the part where somebody must pay is always in cash payout, rather than much or any actual difference being made in the future. Now they will likely spend less on training because of the higher insurance rates. But I do understand that even if such company had an opportunity to "change the game" other than stepping up and just doing it and creating a reputation for it, there is no chance. And well, we all know how many times companies and governments choose the lowest bidder.

Thanks for your professional analysis of this tragedy, Josh. It has been illuminating and this video provides a respectful bookend to the sorry tale.

Lots of factors contributing to the collapse were brought out in this video- but no mention of the HOA (like all too many other HOAs) “kicking the can” when it comes to needed repairs and maintenance. Resistance to spending more money is reflexive with some people, and so it is present in EVERY HOA. I am an owner in a condo building; ask me how I know….

@wigglymoose

2 жыл бұрын

i work in community management and i’m very curious to know more about what went on with the board and the management company (if there was one). hopefully this tragedy leads HOAs to be more proactive getting comprehensive reserve studies and adequately funding their reserves, so they don’t waste time having owners vote on huge special assessments that they probably can’t afford on such short notice.

@mencken8

2 жыл бұрын

@@wigglymoose We live in a 50 year old building that is STRUCTURALLY in good shape, EXCEPT for walkways on the outside that previous boards very unwisely allowed to be salted in Winter, resulting in deterioration that must now be addressed. Fortunately, last month an owner was transiting a third floor walkway and put a foot through the concrete, which serves to instantly eliminate objections to an assessment. To make money for these things available, I can imagine some legally required inspection intervals, followed by a mechanism for building a reserve fund (also legally required) to make resources available to deal with issues as they occur, or at least to provide a big chunk of the funds needed to avert large assessments. This will help avoid having people say “If the assessment is that big, I’ll have to move.”

Your channel is one of the best construction channels on youtube. Its nice to see that some people actually care.

Thank you for the beautiful and respectful memorial and the summary of investigations and actions to-date. As an Architect I am continually watching our aging 1940's through 1980's structures wear over time I am just amazed at the size of the effort that just continues to be kicked down the curb to complete necessary investments into deferred maintenance items and on-going building upkeep. Keep up the advocacy and the great work you do; great channel.

Thank you, Josh, for this moving memorial to the lives lost one year ago today.

Brilliant Video Josh , thank you 🙏

This video was a beautiful tribute to the lives lost in this tragedy. Thank you for your continued coverage of CTS, and I'm hoping we'll hear more from you when the NIST report finally drops.

Wow, can't believe it's been a year already. Thank you for all your effort analyzing and explaining the findings around this building!

Great job, Josh! You rock.

a bad design requires more maintenance. This is why we now have enforced building standards, we should also have enforced maintenance standards.

@Garth2011

2 жыл бұрын

And who allowed the bad building design? The city did. They allowed those flawed blue prints to get approved. We need enforced city operation inspections !

I lied awake on a few nights thinking about being the people in the last part that fell. Look at how it swayed. Then stabilizes, THEN falls. Just when you think it might stay up.

thank you for the summary! I didn't expect to see so many young faces in the memorial at the end, that's extremely heartbreaking...

I love that you did this, Josh!

May God comfort the families of those who perished. My sincerest condolences. Thank you for this thoughtful story.

Great tribute. Thank you.

This still absolutely guts me to this day. The photos of those who lost their lives, immediately the little guy in the center stood out to me. Especially difficult to see the small children. I just can’t fathom how scared these people must have been in their last moments. 😔

This is a fantastic video Josh, thank you.

@BuildingIntegrity

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

I love your channel. This is a beautiful memorial to those poor people.

Extremely well done video Josh, just like all your others. I can't believe that it has already been settled within 1 year. What happened to the Canadian lawyer? RIP to all those lost. 🙏

@BuildingIntegrity

2 жыл бұрын

He was given a key to the city and passed away with a reputation as a successful developer and philanthropist.

@davids8493

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuildingIntegrity it is a tragedy that hindsight is 20/20. Thanks again. 👍

@juliecalhoun9279

2 жыл бұрын

This fact literally makes me nauseated.... although not the least bit surprised. I remember your episode that looked deeper into what an absolute pile of steaming, rotten, slimy 💩 that guy was. So much blood on his hands. And, I doubt that the victims at CTS were the only ones to suffer/die from his vile actions in both countries. RIP to all. ❤️

@Hopeful_Libertarian

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuildingIntegrity his reputation isn't so rosy now but too late for all the lives lost.

What a beautiful presentation. I love the addition of the pics in remembrance. Rest in God's loving embrace ♥️

So we have Champlain towers North and East still standing? Looks like me they need a little bit of love,

@davenz000

2 жыл бұрын

Love = thoughts and prayers.

@ReneSchickbauer

2 жыл бұрын

@@davenz000 Duct tape and hot glue.

Lives gone too soon. May they all rest in peace. No matter the sizable settlement, it will never bring back their loved ones. A tragedy that could have been and should have been avoided. Now, lets hope that that HOA fees being increased in Florida now actually go into the maintenance and structural improvements of the buildings and not some corrupt pockets.

I followed your channel when this happened. You did a great job at explaining things and I really appreciate you doing this for those of us who followed this most tragic event.

🇨🇦in our Ontario city a house was torn down. The biggest ever basement was dug. With retaining walls. But now the house right next is shored up with 2 by 4 braces. And a basement repair company is working on the neighbor’s house. Everyone should watch your videos. This is a case like the excavation next to the south building

Thanks for this info and remembering the victims that died and the victims that lived and their trauma

Thank u for your hard work! When u shed light on the failures, it shows what steps can b taken before the next one occurs. Shoring and evacuation r two things that u mentioned that would have likely limited the deaths and saved the building. I have watched all your videos and c how u deal with corrosive water is so important with concrete. Correct drainage and waterproofing r the only things that will allow concrete to support the heavy loads these structures have. Thank again for the continuing education. Looking forward to more on Millennium Towers.

Shit like this is completely unimaginable in the EU. You wouldn't even be allowed to break ground unless the designs were signed off on by structural engineers and the local city hall. Also, it's completely insane that a security firm can be held accountable for such a tragedy. In the EU, the first people held liable and accountable are your architects, engineers and contractors. The structural integrity of your building needs to be guaranteed by your architect, structural engineer and contractor. And once your building is complete, the city inspector needs to personally come down, inspect and sign off on it.

It doesn’t feel like a year at all. RIP to all the lost ones. You deserved better.🙏🏿🕊 As an Architect, and now a future Engineer, I am learning what not to do.. love from Nairobi Kenya 🇰🇪

@JelMain

2 жыл бұрын

As a military engineer, never take someone's unsupported word as Gospel. Go see for yourself.

Amazing tribute Josh! Keep up the great work.

Thank you for the video. You have done an amazing job and I'm glad I found your channel a little over a year ago.

@BuildingIntegrity

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I have a 29 year history of inspecting buildings for insurance companies- I absolutely guarantee that there were many warnings all of which were ignored

Great video of such a tragic preventable event. It is disgusting that people's greed is more important than the lives of other people. We actually witness this every day but yet they are never held accountable. My heart goes out to those that lost a loved one.

Great job as usual!

The tribute is beautiful. Rest in peace precious souls. God bless you for all you do Josh. ❤🙏

RIP the 98 souls that perished on and because of that fateful mornings collapse, and condolences to those who lost loved ones due to this event...may your loved ones deaths not be in vain!!!! Thank you Josh and the entire Building Integrity team for bringing the in depth and unparalleled coverage that this disaster deserved...your engineering prowess brought into laymans terms for us not so educated types was much appreciated into not only the building practices that were negated during the towers construction, but by how if the construction had been correctly conducted and subsequent years of detriment were inspected and acted upon in a more professional and appropriate manner, the whole event might have been avoidable...mother nature and the forces at play certainly proved to show they are no match for those that decide to cut corners and not treat the warnings that appear with the due diligence they require. A brilliant series of posts...that I hope can only teach future engineers and those inspecting these structures to me more thorough in their actions...to prevent this ever occurring again. Cheers from Sydney Australia!!!!!

@BuildingIntegrity

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

Thank you for sharing this video in tribute to the victims.

Very well done. Our thoughts and prayers for the families of those lost and the survivors,

Not the "Full Story" I was anticipating.

@charlestowler902

2 жыл бұрын

There is a link to the full playlist - which I recommend and have found to be a detailed, comprehensive and interesting account of this tragic event and how the building's many deficiencies led up to it. That the security company should be the 'most liable' was a surprise to me (and clearly to other commenters) - presumably mostly on account of the lack of evacuation after the pool deck collapsed, but I assume their lawyers thought a court might award more...

Thank you for your amazing reporting over the last year. I salute you, Sir.

So respectful for the victims, thank you

If you're talking passive, conjectural, theoretical, get real. I knew an old lady who swallowed a fly is a cautionary tale of how small things lead to big. The sun set, the deck contracted, the rabar snapped, the recoil knocked the pillars away, and that caused the building to fall. You have to work backwards, what caused this. What caused that. And until you hit a final hard fact, you're not done. The second you've a hypothesis, put up or shut up. The guy who was on about what the guard ought to have done is barking. It's immaterial, because she's not superman, able to reverse time, what she did or didn't do immaterial to the outcome. The lessons to learn derive from that. Nothing else. Wanting to sit in judgment is you being self-righteous. It doesn't undo the harm, present or future.

This is such an excellent video, comprehensive and easy to understand. Thank you so much for all your input on this disaster, your videos have been a huge part of my understanding of what happened. So awful and so sad, so many people dead...