Nice of intel and AMD to both swap to 3 digit names at the same time just to confuse all their consumerbase again

@Alpine_flo92002

26 күн бұрын

Well intel changed so obviously AMD had to follow.

@platinumsun4632

25 күн бұрын

Wait what? What did AMD do?

@Alpine_flo92002

25 күн бұрын

@@platinumsun4632 Followed intel with changing naming scheme and went a bit overboard

@Eleganttf2

25 күн бұрын

@@platinumsun4632 literally watch the video smh

@FrancoisRoy

25 күн бұрын

Yet those Intel fools somehow seem to believe the Ultra moniker has chances against the AI buzzword.

Why not rename the whole company to AIMD while we are at it?

@xBINARYGODx

26 күн бұрын

dont give them any ideas

@trevorbarney1796

26 күн бұрын

Quality comment

@EthelbertCoyote

26 күн бұрын

nVidia, AiMD begets... APP le that is oddly correct gen their pension for App and limited editions. ASSus also may be a solid change.

@Omega-EP

26 күн бұрын

@@EthelbertCoyotePerfect, yes.

@barbatocedric4246

26 күн бұрын

More AAIMD "Advanced AI Micro Device" and "NvidAI"

VESA creating a solution to the problem they created... So they can double dip on monitor manufacturers... So monitor manufacturers can raise prices for consumers... Brilliant.

@dakoderii4221

25 күн бұрын

Everybody wins!

@Stev-mi2fd

24 күн бұрын

Who needs money anyway??

@AD-sg9tr

13 күн бұрын

@@Stev-mi2fd xDDD

The only thing we know for certain is that the next generation of cards from AMD and Nvidia will be too expensive for what they deliver.

@Killswitch1411

25 күн бұрын

I'm loosing interest in the new gpus and cpus. Finding it hard to even care. A lot of it is due to price and my lack of interest in any new game releases.

@red5standingby419

25 күн бұрын

@@Killswitch1411 way to keep it loose

@Killswitch1411

25 күн бұрын

@@red5standingby419 Better keeping it loose than being uptight?

@Thiswayisyours

25 күн бұрын

Yeah and the power draw will be absurd. I very rarely run my 4090 at max power as it is so a 5090 is a big no no for me.

@michaelangst6078

25 күн бұрын

@@Killswitch1411 I can buy a prebuilt right now with a 4080 and a 14900k for chepaer than what it would cost me to build it new.. The prices are fine unless you're one of the ones who expect to get a high end machine for no more than $1000

@ 3:47 No one under the age of 40 is going to get that " video clip " 🤣

Great intro Joe and Paul!

I'm so sick of "AI" being crammed into everything.

@MrTaylork1

25 күн бұрын

Buckle in. We’ve barely started scratching the surface of AI being added to everything.

@hastyscorpion

25 күн бұрын

​@@MrTaylork1we are at the peak of "Ai" that doesn't do anything I to everything. Either they are going to figure out something useful for it to do. Or people are Going to start to get wise.

@elchancho8432

25 күн бұрын

Get use to it lol

@pstwr

25 күн бұрын

I'm barely recovered from NFT's and Metaverse taking over...

@MrAnimescrazy

25 күн бұрын

Too bad this is just the beginning.

oh great, a new Asus handheld for them to screw you over with when it comes to repairs and all that.

@dnevill

25 күн бұрын

GN ftw!

@lordphontaroy3592

4 күн бұрын

@@dnevill Yeah i am no longer buying anything ASUS makes.

@alexandrep4913

4 күн бұрын

Why did people even try to argue that the Asus handheld was a worthy competitor to Steam deck? It's like obvious who the winner was by track record.

The compression plate of CAMM being replaceable should be adopted by the motherboard cpu socket.

@AndersHass

26 күн бұрын

Probably more complicated for CPU but it could be cool to be a way to upgrade the CPU without replacing the motherboard (like Framework does). Then while we are add it add both things for dedicated GPUs so you can upgrade both the GPU itself and memory, lol. I would sadly think it will be too costly to do this for CPUs/GPUs to ever be practically done.

@noxious89123

25 күн бұрын

Big difference between a small piece with 200~ pins, and a CPU socket with close to a magnitude more, as we approach sockets with ~2000 pins. I don't think it would be practical.

My 7 year old intel i7 7700k CPU has already done away with hyper-threading all on it's own (via the blue screen of death). Ahead of it's time.

@yugdesiral

25 күн бұрын

My 6700k is still a beast.

@Oliver-sn4be

25 күн бұрын

​@@yugdesiral am surprised by it 2 have it already 7 years now wow

@yugdesiral

25 күн бұрын

@@Oliver-sn4be 8 years now, just handed it down to my 5yo. The 980ti is still delightfully demolishing most games at 1080p.

@Joker-no1fz

25 күн бұрын

@@yugdesiral hopefully you keep your 5 year old on single player only but i doubt it.

@yugdesiral

25 күн бұрын

@@Joker-no1fz mostly single player yeah, if online i just turn off chat

That Computex logo reveal was quite something. Good job, Joe.

Thanks for changing the background music Joe! 🙏

New Intel management does not want their reign to be confused with previous management products.

if all your Intel Core processors are "Ultra" what does Ultra even mean here?

@AndersHass

26 күн бұрын

There are also none Ultra. But they have rarely been talked about (maybe still haven’t been released in actual products). Various people have often said new Ultra line up to talk about these new Intel tile based CPUs compared to old monolithic CPUs, possible that has made Paul just call them all for Ultra. Edit: Possible the none ultra isn't tile based (at least not the current ones), which makes the new naming even more confusing when the point of new naming would be completely new design like tiles.

@Alpine_flo92002

26 күн бұрын

They do have non Ultra CPUs but they are more for OEM and lower end and not really loudly announced

@aerosw1ft

25 күн бұрын

So in summary: whoever proposed AND accepted the naming change should be fired

@Ti-JAC

25 күн бұрын

@@aerosw1ft they can't - that person is DEI hired...

@brianrobinson3961

25 күн бұрын

Ultra confusing

Great video Paul! Always good to catch up on the Tech News.

That subtle Midsommer background was great.

Thanks for reminding me that "A Current Affair" existed.

@frommatorav1

25 күн бұрын

Uh, nostalgia... Maury Povich "was the father" of that show, so-to-speak. It was definitely a better news show than what's around today.

Re the ad, One of those pins on the 4-pin fan connector is a speed signal, that goes back to the motherboard so it can see if the fan is dead or too slow. If fans can be "daisy-chained" from just one connector on the board, which of the daisy-chained fans is being read? What about the others?

I really like the intro 😉👍! You can make the episode worth watching even if the news are nothing to write home about.

I love watching these vids of new shiney tech, while my PC's specs in 2024 are: i7-3770 GTX 1060 16 GB DDR3 RAM Play my cards right, I might finally afford to get a 1080 Ti this year!

@WhatShallMyUsernameBe

25 күн бұрын

I have a 1080 and it is fantastic in 2024

@lucasrem

25 күн бұрын

Why you watch Paul than ???? Only hobby freaks need it, keep the old system, and stop watching the adss crab here !

@DrHotelMario

25 күн бұрын

@@lucasrem Just because I can't afford them, doesn't mean it's not fun to look at the shiney things.

@darkknight097

21 күн бұрын

Has the prices gone up again? I picked up a 1080ti for around $200 on ebay a year ago

3:16 even further and more reasonable speculations.. Nvidia is aiming for global launch with "Blackwell" architecture. which is only possible if they release the 5080 first.. the card that is supposed to comply with U.S. export regulations

that intro alone warranted a sub... absolutely brilliant! :D

Thanks Paul !!! I hope you and your family are doing great.

Will the 5090 come with a fire extinguisher accessory option?

Does anybody know what the advantage might be for removing hyperthreading from the processor?

The New laptop So-DIM modules look interesting from a hardware perspective. Would love to try them out when the price comes down to universal consumption levels.

Another glorious tech news video to accompany my Sunday morning visit to the thunderbox. It's becoming a Sunday tradition for me, followed by roast beef and Yorkshire puddings for dinner.

even advertisement looks interesting when Paul is talking :)

Does anyone know the PC case over Paul's right shoulder on his desk?

wowowowo the naming scheme change will be a very good one... going from 5diggits to 3 may be a big loss tho ahahahha thanks Steve. and Paul as always, thanks

and how many connectors going to be melting with those ?

The intro music is both joyful and triumphant!

at 00:41 should have used overground pool w arrow stuck leaking :D

Good coverage.

Super intro as usual, good way to start any Sunday

Saving up for a new build this year, waiting to see how the CORE Ultra stack up against the 1400 series

Hi Paul. Always enjoy your laconic delivery style. Sometimes I even agree with your conclusions! Keep 'em coming. Mant thanks.

Get ready for that crappy connection to melt yet again on the 5090s since Nvidia will not accept the truth that it’s a extremely bad connector for powerful cards.

@alexturnbackthearmy1907

25 күн бұрын

Or at least transfer it to location where cable can be properly mounted. I mean, why would ANYONE put cable in place where it doesnt hit case, its obviously inferior design.

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns

25 күн бұрын

Also screw ASUS for not replacing those melted connectors. DO NOT BUY ASUS!!!!!!!! TOMS hardware news posted today as of 5/12/2024 Asus quotes ridiculous $2,750 fee to replace chipped GPU power connector- docs back up claims of egregious repair pricing for $2,000 RTX 4090 GPU

@JDuBz815

18 күн бұрын

Much like avoiding OLED panels for risk of burn-in/image retention. Is the risk reduced? Yes. But it's still a risk. I'm not gonna buy a card with that 12VHP connector for that reason. My 3080trio looks fairly clean even with its 3x8pin connectors due my cable management. Even if I was lazy with my cable management, who is really ever gonna see it but me?😂

If HT is gone, does that mean they can now move a whole thread easily if something stalls? Do the pipelines have junctions to throw the thread to other pipes if stalled? Or are they saying modern software doesn't cause the stalls that were common that necessitated the HT solution?

@noxious89123

25 күн бұрын

It's just so that they can sell you the exact same CPU but with HT enabled, for the next "generation".

I still think we will eventually see CAMM sockets directly on CPU packages at some point. Especially now that glass CPU substrates are arriving.

AIMD RAIZEN for AILL!

@user-pf3qs5th4f

25 күн бұрын

AI See what you did there!

@Mouse_007

25 күн бұрын

faice palm

@dakoderii4221

25 күн бұрын

With a bag of raisins with Raiden on the front.

7:55 The C in LPCAMM2 stands for compression, not consumption.

I heard you say phoronix is developing a driver, rather they reported on intel developing the pcie6 driver

Great video brother, keep up the good work!

I love that the Tough pro fan box is smashed at the top, cause its tough and it can take it.

god i wish more companies would just adopt an annual revision of a product and literally just call it the "productname 20xx" so you can just easily reference how old it is and whether or not you ~might~ want to consider a new revision upgrade.

Thank you Paul!

OMG, they're going to announce an upcoming announcement!

MFG's will need to start replacing cases for high-end pc's with dorm refrigerators.

Sooo I shouldn’t pick up a 40 series right now?

I find LPCAMM interesting because it allows for previously non socketable memory to be socketable. LPDDR is different from SO-DIMM and is the kind of memory that previously was only possible to be soldered directly to the board. CAMM and CAMM2 would be the one they're trying to replace SO-DIMMs with.

Sadly, the replacement for SODIMM seems to be embedded laptop RAM with no expansion slot.

When he was talking about Panther Lake, I thought I was hearing Cancer Lake.

if only intel revives the extreme series cpu product line up....

The 80 series makes the most sense to release first as they can sell the most cut down die that matches the 4090 for the biggest margins. What would have been a 70 series die in the past, but for current 90 series price tag

Oh boy a new PCIE standard, now they can catch fire on both ends!

So, you're saying to wait on buying a GPU?

Thanks for the news Paul! Some potentially cool stuff (grain of salt).

A bit lost on the need for it this year. I mean, what games is there to sell it with. We had like Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk games that helped sell cards, but what is there this year? Stalker 2 maybe? Normally I go with each new release, but even I am struggling to see the need for 4090 owners to jump again so soon, even more so if there is no games that really need the 5090.

@carrickdubya4765

24 күн бұрын

4070 Super just arrived, but if a 5070/80 is coming in 3-6 months, then it's going back. Currently Rx 470

The ROG Ally X is ASUS's way of admitting that the ROG Ally was a lemon of a device to start with without having to do a recall to replace all those busted devices. (Just ask Steve at Gamers Nexus.)

@BainesMkII

25 күн бұрын

I'm surprised ASUS didn't simply classifying white shells as being out-of-warranty damage, and just automatically charged anyone sending in a white Ally for the "fix".

@coryvallad7578

25 күн бұрын

Lmao 😂 I have had mine since launch and have had no issues at all lol legion go has had their fair share of issues too lol 😂 the X is the same thing just more ram and better cooling.

@jackielinde7568

25 күн бұрын

@@BainesMkII But technically they did that with the Gamers Nexus Ally. There was a very small ding that didn't affect anything, but they tried charging GN $200 for a screen replacement, because the screen was permanently attached of the case.

@glenndoiron9317

25 күн бұрын

I've owned an Ally since launch, and I have never had any problems with it. It's a well-known fact that you will have a small percentage of electronic devices fail in the field within the first 90 days of usage, due to "early failure" of components which tested fine right before the product shipped (the failure rate then drops precipitously, and slowly rises as the product ages). You might also have process problems in assembly, but I would assume that someone in the (laptop) business as long as Asus already has processes in place to fix these issues when they are detected. AFAIK, nobody who has actual data on failure rates has posted any statistics. Calling it a lemon based on 4 or 5 people posting about their device failures on the internet means ALMOST NOTHING if hundreds of thousands of units were shipped.

@BainesMkII

25 күн бұрын

@@glenndoiron9317 It's not the failure rate that is the issue. ASUS has established a history of straight out scamming people through their repair process. This isn't just "normal" warranty/repair shenanigans either (though ASUS is guilty of that as well). Horror stories are everywhere, but a good breakdown of complaints along with their own absolutely absurd story can be found in the Gamers Nexus video "ASUS Scammed Us".

How expensive do we think the 5000 series cards are gonna be? 3080 RRP seems so long ago 😢

@FMBriggs

25 күн бұрын

Scalpers tend to dictate prices at launch. Then again Nvidia were the scalpers for 4000 series, so I'd bet dollars to donuts that 5080 will be at least 1300USD.

@lucasrem

25 күн бұрын

Get that RTX 3090 for cheap ?

@laszlozsurka8991

25 күн бұрын

Depends if the scalpers will get them or if the demand will be high.

7:57 I thought LP-CAMM stands for Low Profile - Compression Attached Memory Module ?

@unvergebeneid

25 күн бұрын

No, seems to be "low-power" in fact.

And the RTX-5090 GFX cards will cost how much????

i feel like beside fsr, ray tracing and a few other features these new cards are just getting larger and drawing more power to achieve more performance without a lot of optimizations.

I would have been interested in the number of shaders of a RTX 5080. As I do have the 3080 as a water cooled eGPU with 8000 cores, it is great for AI models.

I'm generally looking forward to get a new gpu after skipping the 40 series but seeing 250-600W ... what the hell nvidia, starting at 250W?

@justinhogue9861

26 күн бұрын

This rumor came up last gen. Probably engineering samples being pushed. With Amd not challenging the top end, they shouldn't push into higher watts. Who knows though.

@arenzricodexd4409

25 күн бұрын

Because they are not designing FE cooler for their low end card (like 4060).

@riven4121

25 күн бұрын

Because this isn't the card wattage. This is the cooling capacity of the FE model. Nvidia overengineer their FE cards. The 4090's shroud is rated for 600W.

@GraveUypo

25 күн бұрын

ikr! it should END at 250w

@expoza5245

25 күн бұрын

5080 350W. 5090 600W.

I would say in some regards it makes sense for Intel to do a new naming scheme given it is now tile based design for the new naming where it was monolithic before. Thereby no need to drop the i and have Ultra for some products while not for others. My best guess for AMD AI naming is they have 45+ TFLOPs (maybe some other measurement) NPUs which seems to be the requirement for Windows copilot to run on device, which is what the new Snapdragon has. But otherwise I would think it is still the same design by AMD and not new design like Intel’s tiles. Then I do wonder if any of the current lineup with NPUs will even be useful when they dont seem to be powerful enough for copilot thereby a waste for people to have bought it specifically for such things (like Ryzen 8000 series basically just bit more powerful NPUs compared to 7000).

The midsummer screen shot and the coneheads clips. This is why I watch this channel

I hope the rumors are understatements and the performance of the 50 series becomes much higher.

I wonder if Intel is going to rush through Battlemage to get to Celestial's architecture improvements. I would imagine Celetial will have improvements based on what programmmers and developers have observed on Alchemist. So instead of spending toomuch time on the intermediate Battlemage, effort may be focusing more on Celestial with mobile being the initial test rollout.

@blue-pi2kt

26 күн бұрын

Architecture improvements don't really work like that. CUDA cores are an insanely mature all-purpose parallel compute technology that is extremely well optimised from a software and hardware perspective. Tensor Cores are much more specialised FP32 linear algebra machines. It's been finely balanced in the consumer market but H100s are literally just tensor cores. Intel's XE cores are literally just half 256 bit ALUs and half 1024 bit ALUs. It will get better in the next gen but the real breakthroughs are 2 to 3 generations away. Whilst not as chaotic but an appropriate or equivalent example is infinity fabric. At first it was more of a hand brake on performance but in the fourth gen 7000 series - it's what is really making the difference. XE cores will likely experience a similar trajectory.

Intel launches new "K"-series CPUs - everyone skips this part... Your news are put together with so much love and the pictures are top notch! Thanks to you both.

@noxious89123

25 күн бұрын

Because that in itself isn't news? What did you think they were going to do, launch new CPUs without K models? THAT would be a bigger announcement.

If the 5080 release first, it will be as a test to see how many customers are willing to pay 4090-level prices for a 080 skew. The answer, as far as I am concerned, will be: bring a 7800 XT to 500$ and NVIDIA can shove that useless AI back where the Sun don't shine.

@laszlozsurka8991

25 күн бұрын

If NVIDIA sticks with a $1,000 price tag for the 5080 people will buy it. A 4090 level of performance for $1,000 and with less power consumption people are gonna be grabbing that as candy.

@glenndoiron9317

25 күн бұрын

@@laszlozsurka8991 If nvidia sticks to a $1000 price tag, then they will sell exactly the same number of units as they did in the previous generation.

@Patrick-tw7nr

25 күн бұрын

@@laszlozsurka8991it won’t reach 4090 level of performance. It will probably be 85-90 percent most of a 4090 and maybe just 15 percent faster than current 4080S all for the low price of 1299.00 and people will bend over to take it from Jensen and love it

are the 5090s going to have the same fire rating as the 4090s

Done that...Both side panels off with 2 Box Fans in Push-Pull on my FX8375 with 2 R9 290X Sapphire OC 8gb cards in Cross Fire...thing STILL shut down even when set outside in 15 F temps. 8( very sad.

don't call me shirley

@eisenklad

26 күн бұрын

roger, roger

@fFletchs

26 күн бұрын

ok, donn

@Oz-gv5fz

26 күн бұрын

Ok... Shirley 😏

@jackielinde7568

26 күн бұрын

No, I’ve been nervous lots of times.

@esthergennn

25 күн бұрын

It's big building with patients but that's not important right now

thanks for kore fine work lad, and i love your approach and style the world needs more of this , cheers lad keep them coming .

Hello Paul, I always liked to use AMD Asus in my first PCs and I want to try Intel for, they are just as simple as configuring your system.

*The big.LITTLE era:* *heat is a concern* *stability issues* *IMC issues* *DDR5 tech issues:* *heat is a concern* *stability issues* *The long and short of it is: You have to tinker like a MAD MAN in the BIOS and find the PERFECT mixture and tuning. Or... You have to make a sacrifice or two, to get a stable system.* *ie: dial back your ram frequency and tighten the timings, ramp up the voltage and pray for hitting the lottery and get your advertised frequency running stable, upgrade AiO cooling or custom loop to something massive like a copper rad, 420mm setup (3x140mm fans), stronger pump, higher static pressure fans, etc.*

5090 32gb? Possible it will be 48gb?

Bro gets a like and a sub for the Current Affair throwback.

Soul patches and long side burns remind me of the 90's grunge rock scene and not 2024 post COVID-19.

thAInk you Paul !

I'm not sure what all AI tasks are normally handled on a CPU. I know image generation is typically done on the CPU if you're using an AMD GPU, due to the absence of CUDA. But DLSS and all that are ruled out as I believe they're handled on the GPU. Not that it doesn't make sense to add a dedicated AI processor to the CPU, like video encoding has had dedicated architecture on GPUs for a while, but I don't think it makes sense to put them in every model since most people will probably have no use for it. Idk, maybe I'm missing something or maybe they know something we don't.

Hope everyone that complained about display port 1.4 will get a new monitor. There’s only 2 to chose from that I’m aware of

Are you sure there will be any gaming GPUs? I'd assume they go full AI

............................and here comes the 5080 at $2000 with a massive 8gb vRAM LOL

They said that the 40 series TITAN Class GPU was 600 watts and had 48 VRAM or that was the rumors I remember, I don't have high hopes for 50 series GPU's having 600 watts and not seeing melting connectors like what happened in the 4090's... hopefully Nividia has addressed that issue this time around...

Are they gonna make a Ti Card?

new gpus drawing up to 600w....but we arent gonna address the power connector that keeps melting them down.........

Paul, the efficient tech news thespian. Love this segment of Paul's hardware

I guess now you HAVE to revive Arctic Panther with Panther Lake CPU, whenever they actually come out.

How can you not release summer when all students off school… buy buy buy. 😂

Why the hell is Core ultra 9 285K,Core ultra 7 265k & Core ultra 5 245K It doesn't make any sense? Shouldn't they be 295K,275K & 255K?

@frommatorav1

25 күн бұрын

C'mon, you're being logical. This is Intel. It's not like AMD and Microsoft are known for good naming schemes, either. I thought the same exact thing, btw.

39 seconds ago is insane Hi Paul and Joe

I feel me getting a "new" Master RTX4080 in a couple of years.

Damn your eyes naming schemes!

Water!?

OMFG!!! the best intro yet Joe and Paul!!! Damm good job! OH great!! Look mom I have AI in my pants!!! LOL

ok real question here, are there any games that actually require more powerful hardware

Since I have a cheap MOBO and can't control my case fan speed making them almost useless I should probably take the side off and point a fan at it.