They are so happy they can get back into parliament to debate Brexit... Something they've been doing for 3 years with no progress.

@ashleybutler86

4 жыл бұрын

GEJ exactly.i don’t get it.governed by the rule of law....so get on with brexit.surely that’s the law!

@garsm2290

4 жыл бұрын

The main 'opposition' party now has a policy of extending EU membership, negotiating a 'better' deal although they won't explain what 'better' means, then offering a referendum choice between remaining in the EU or chosing the 'better' deal (assuming the EU27 have agreed to it) ....er, and they won't say what they'd do if the UK has already left the EU or what the referendum would ask if they hadn't reached a 'better' deal.

I think everyone should just stop paying their taxes until this shit is fixed. Literally everyone involved in this embarrassing saga has just decided to quite simple cause they can't get their own way rather than work through the problems.

4 жыл бұрын

What does that mean to you, you're going to stop drawing the dole are you?

@andrew300169

4 жыл бұрын

Seán O'Nilbud 😂😅🤣🤣

@cid4302

4 жыл бұрын

Seán O'Nilbud dead

@dcw304

4 жыл бұрын

Taxes are automatically lifted from wages - as pointed out above, being on the dole you wouldn’t know that

@fricozoid1

4 жыл бұрын

@Swaggie 707 Nobody said anything about voting, except for you. Weird.

Any chance of the BBC giving us facts without the dramatic back drop music. I wonder if Boris might re consider the licence fee and get rid of this bias corporate tool.

@carbon1255

4 жыл бұрын

How would we know what to think without the dramatic music?

@Cupit29

4 жыл бұрын

He'd have to get it through Parliament first 😂

@baffbaff4085

4 жыл бұрын

All the institutions of this country are at war with it. Break the power of the state. End the monopoly on information.

I just miss the good old days when you trusted what we were watching or listening to now it’s a joke and don’t trust any of them

@saturn2117

4 жыл бұрын

What you were watching and listening to has never been trustworthy, you're just only now aware of it.

@rupertrozells5816

4 жыл бұрын

frost1129 - there is a very nasty smell in our parliament! I bet if they have a thorough clean out, they find some horrible rotting bull or even tons of shot with maggots crawling in them. Time to close parliament, get rid of all the deadwood & muck. Get trustworthy, honest, patriotic & politician who have a proud British Identity. No more lies, lies, fabrication, confabulation among the stooges in parliament, traitors & collaborators should be exiled to germany.

@popculture70

4 жыл бұрын

It's because you got a Facebook account and have fallen prey to an unregulated unaccountable media source spamming you daily with fake news paid for by god knows who.

They said! If you want to leave the EU, all you have to do is vote for it!

@SeanJamesDocherty

4 жыл бұрын

Scotland doesn't want to.

@raivedarkstone7378

4 жыл бұрын

@@SeanJamesDocherty Tough, they voted knowing the two possible outcomes, if they really wanted to suck the big EU so badly they shouldn't have taken part, but they did, because they're in the United Kingdom. All this nonsense about another referendum is as good as going back to the shop and asking for another lottery ticket because you didn't win. That's the result of the WHOLE country, deal with it, it needs to happen or the government that decides to go against it and cancel will face a horrendous backlash and the leaver MAJORITY that have up until now been fairly reasonable, won't be so reasonable at the next clash. The Irony is it'll be the remainers that show up with faces covered looking like terrorists.

@Carl-im9gh

4 жыл бұрын

@@SeanJamesDocherty How many people in Scotland doesn't want to?

@123jackterry

4 жыл бұрын

Howard Phillips Lovecraft you didn’t win, get over it you brainless buffoon.

@kanasbxb430

4 жыл бұрын

Scotland didn’t vote to leave eu, the uk did! Get the straw out Nicolas arse and get over it! Plenty of people in Scotland voted leave and all the people the voted remain are sour faced bastards!

So Boris has lost his first six votes in parliament and one in court. Is that some sort of record.

@Whatever4690

4 жыл бұрын

Wheres the democracy for the people who asked for brexit, only to be overuled by the elite?.

@SpitfireMLG

4 жыл бұрын

Well it’s hardly surprising with this Parliament. No party with a majority, no working coalition. Make anyone Prime Minister in this Parliament and the outcome won’t be much different...

@hermanmiller3708

4 жыл бұрын

@@Whatever4690 Even you don't understand what you have written so don't expect anyone to answer a question that make absolutely no sense.

@thebovlin1966

4 жыл бұрын

And what record would that be? 🤦‍♂️get a grip jesus christ

@hermanmiller3708

4 жыл бұрын

@@thebovlin1966 A record for incompetence and futility.

i was wavering and thinking voting for Brexit party but after supreme court findings i will now vote for Boris, anyone who has the balls to stick up for the people against these anti democratic lot will have my vote ....GO BORIS !!!!!

@kanasbxb430

4 жыл бұрын

Someone who sees sense 👏

@kanasbxb430

4 жыл бұрын

DD HH We want out, make it no deal, we don’t want the eu fs 🙃

@Tony-1971

4 жыл бұрын

Totally Agree. The antidemocratic liberal authoritarian rremainers are an absolute disgrace to the British people who gave their lives during WW2 defending us from the antidemocratic fascists. Remainers who dont respect the referendum result are the next nazi party. They make me puke. Vile scum that they are.

@fotorabia

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tony-1971 your such a laugh..i cant tell whether your 12..or 80....your whole little speech there is a myriad merry go round of contradictions...

General election please .

@SeppukuAddict

4 жыл бұрын

Parliament won't let us have an election. They won't let us leave without a deal. They won't decide on a deal. They're obstructing any attempt to make progress with Brexit and now they've just got their mummies and daddies in the Supreme Court to tell Boris off. This is, without any hyperbolic exaggeration, treason. The people voted and now the Westminster elite are doing everything they can to reverse it, and think they are above Her Majesty herself. This is how the Civil War started. "For the love of God, GO!"

@frost1129

4 жыл бұрын

Alan Corner you can have numerous elections problem is the mps standing for there party’s non of them are any good and that’s being generous

@paulmorgan3600

4 жыл бұрын

No point on voting again ! Would it matter anyway because we vote and nothing happens

@SeppukuAddict

4 жыл бұрын

@Realpeopleneverpost "Everyone who doesn't agree with me is a Russian conspirator" Get some new material champ

@SeppukuAddict

4 жыл бұрын

@Realpeopleneverpost Martial arts squashed banana sallycoom, brother.

Peoples decision must be respected. We are leaving on the 31st October. Get ready!

@Cupit29

4 жыл бұрын

Didn't you say that in March?

Courts have shown time and time again that they will intervene even when statute sought to preclude judicial review. This is a safeguard to the rule of law and courts will step in when the executive overreaches. Brexit is a massive deal, and parliament MUST continue to work on it before we exit whichever way you look at it.

In Germany the Nazis never broke a single German law written by Nazies, laws are made behind closed doors in small rooms to suit situations. If the rule of law was worth anything then we are already out of the EU with no deal, Lawyers for Britain have stated the small print of article 50 that if no impediment is submitted by the leave date in March then the UK leaves the EU by default , when this was submitted to the high courts the judges refused to acknowledge it. The judges and the Lords along with our elected MPs have now stated that if Boris does not discount no deal then he will be jailed and as no deal Brexit is the only Brexit on offer that is anything like what the people voted for, then we are told the leaving the EU is now an illegal act. In context they are now willing to jail a serving PM enacting the will of the democratic vote of more than half the country, a move endorsed by another PM who stated if we vote to leave the EU we will be leaving the single market the customs union and everything else, leave means leave. Not since the English civil war has our parliament acting is such a disgraceful way and we are now at the point the army needs to step to end this coup

@fotorabia

4 жыл бұрын

Coomber The Zoomer..declaring martial law..ooooh....scary...i love watching gammon stewing in its own gravy....

Where's Oliver Cromwell when you need him.

@thisisme2115

4 жыл бұрын

He would have sorted out all those liers and manipulators, the so called brexiteers. They lied throughout their manifestos and continue to do so.

@PianoDreams

4 жыл бұрын

@@thisisme2115 I think he'd have had a dim view of the remainers.

The courts have opened a tin of worms getting involved in Politics

@clowncarqingdao

4 жыл бұрын

They are involved with law. Politics has a legal basis. No need to thank!

@rao76

4 жыл бұрын

@@core-nix1885 The government said it will prorogue the parliament for 5 weeks because of queen's speech and the court said you don't need 5 weeks, 5 days will suffice. Neither the government nor the court mentioned Brexit. Why is it so controversial? Why such a fuss?

@peterallison4464

4 жыл бұрын

Bang on!!

@dgnash

4 жыл бұрын

@@clowncarqingdao The law isn't everything. We also need pragmatism, common sense, militarism, organisation, a party system, democracy, legislation, negotiation, collaboration and political thought. If you have been involved in court cases you will know that the law is a joke because it ultimately depends on a judge who may be biased or incompetent and lawyers who are often childish and dishonest.

@zephergaming4437

4 жыл бұрын

Denis Nash bellend

Should just hold a revote for the referendum with the option either being remain or leave with a no-deal brexit. See how many people vote leave then, then either way the British Public are getting what we want. The first leave referendum was built on nothing but lies and false promises with no plans to actually deliver anything. So now just give us the options of remain or leave as soon as possible with no deal.

@hamishsomerville4064

4 жыл бұрын

Noobie2k7 The first referendum was not built on lies .Leave or Remain Cameron told the NATION after 2years when article 50 was triggered if a deal was not made we would leave Eu.The lies started after the MAJORITY WON. Remainders can’t accept DEMOCRACY. Leavers will win in the end .Watch this space

@Noobie2k7

4 жыл бұрын

@rdmo83 Yeah, that's clearly not happeneing though. Would be great if the first 'deal' was honoured and all of the promises made by the Leave party were true and we all got what we were promised. Would love that. Oh and by the way for the other people in these replies, i did vote for leave but i wouldn't now. So how funny you calling me a 'remoaner'. Pathetic.

Nobody: Brexit: it’s been 84 years. . .

Unlawful? What law was broken? When the Courts decide to make political decisions then judges need to be elected, and I doubt any of them want to go down that road. We had an independent judiciary, it needs to be restored. A first step would be the resignations of the eleven who came to this decision.

@ZigZagHockey

4 жыл бұрын

@rdmo83 So John Major's prorogation and possibly previous ones were unlawful? I think not. It is clearly public policy for a Prime Minister and Cabinet to propagate when they deem it reasonable and necessary. Adding a week to the length of the normal 'Conference Season' to prepare for a Queen's Speech was, in my opinion (which doesn't count) reasonable.

We NEED to get the YOUNGER audience to tune in, all I’m seeing is middle aged men and women to elderly men and women, I CANT STRESS THIS ENOUGH YOU ARE NOT THE FUTURE OUR YOUNG GENERATION IS THE FUTURE!!

@carbon1255

4 жыл бұрын

Young generation are right wing. Are you sure about that? only millennials are progressive.

@tunesacshorts1479

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe if we give the young generation a chance for once instead of portraying them as a ‘lost generation’ we might actually get somewhere, people think because they are young they don’t have their heads screwed on, but in reality it’s the older generation. Otherwise we’d have a brexit deal!

@cloudnyne4663

4 жыл бұрын

I was 21 when I voted. If you can't even see that you're being groomed by Remainers, you're too young. Fuck their backwards deal

@baffbaff4085

4 жыл бұрын

When I was 21 i was pro EU membership for the UK. By the time I was 22.... that had changed.

Just handed the BREXIT Party afew million more votes at the next GE.... Thanks very much....

@garsm2290

4 жыл бұрын

The Brexit Party is financed by dodgy globalists. There is no easy way out of this total clusterf**k.

Keep going Boris Get your GE the people will complete the task of draining the Bog

Since when did the BBC add non-diegetic music to news reporting? Not really documenting, is it?

@Songbirdstress

4 жыл бұрын

So true, why all the twee music everywhere?

@alexnorth3393

4 жыл бұрын

You care about the added music....smh.

@grantwallace1882

4 жыл бұрын

The music came after the judgement and does not change the outcome.

@fergusdenoon1255

4 жыл бұрын

yes it is actually really documenting, it's even dramatizing the documentation ... you may be an idiot, probably need to get that checked out.

@hireaper

4 жыл бұрын

Retards in this thread. This is not a news report it is a section of the BBC where they analyse situations in a sort of investigative way and for the cucks who think the BBC isn’t a reliable news source most likely use Breitbart or some other bullshit news source.

Another establishment stitch up , roll on a GE all these smug remainers will be laughing on the other side of their faces, bring it on

Does that mean the provision of prorogation is illegal? Did John Major do something illegal when he prorogued the parliament in 1997?

@callum4387

4 жыл бұрын

John Donnelly maybe but as it wasn’t challenged we won’t know.

Dianne Abbott: *smirks*

read the actual judgment - the crux is that (a) Parliament was not actually prorogued at all and (b) the PM's advice to HMQ was of "no effect". That's why no sanction was imposed - just a declaration that Parliament was not prorogued. Seems to me to be a bit of a fuss about nothing...

Are they saying the Queen has no idea about current affairs ?!! and she was tricked into agreeing to prorogue parliament ??????

@Vanilla_Donut

4 жыл бұрын

If you are not aware, the Queen can only make decisions based on the Government's advice. Even if she watches the news and read the papers, she cannot use that information to form her decision during anything related to giving permission such as permission to prorogation. Would the Queen privately be angry or show some distaste, she can. But she most likely won't make that public.

@michaelheery7427

4 жыл бұрын

@@Vanilla_Donut its funny moose rooog sneaking up to meet her in scotland..

@damianeadie510

4 жыл бұрын

No. You can read what they actually said in full here: www.supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2019-0192.html

@Stirlingsays

4 жыл бұрын

@Steve Kelsey Errrr...actually she can question the PM and she can decline his advice. You are misleading people or are just ignorant of the reality.

@damianeadie510

4 жыл бұрын

@@Stirlingsays Please give examples of when that has happened.

We don’t need this supreme court

@Cupit29

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, all we need is one man to rule us all. But only as long as that one man agrees with you on one singular issue. Total fucking moron.

Julian Malins OC isnt even a Judge he was a British barrister and the Supreme Court Judges not only were QCs and but also had to take exams to be lower Court judges then high court Judges then where they are now in the highest Court in the Land I know witch one I would want defending me in court and its not Julian Malins OC and all of this is before taken in to account he works for Cambridge Analytica

@TheJonnyzeus

4 жыл бұрын

You are ill-informed. Judges in the UK are appointed on merit and neither sit nor pass exams in order to become Judges or to gain “promotion”.

@CardboardBoxed

4 жыл бұрын

Learn to speak proper English. We don’t want illiterate people like you in this country. Your lard ass is likely going to cost the NHS thousands. Get out of this country.

@tjd18

4 жыл бұрын

@A hc a Judge who sits in the ECJ are appointed to sit there on behalf of the Country they are judges from so what is your point that the Uk Judiciary sends like every other eu member state send to the ECJ they are still serving the UK and the Crown or would you like the ECJ not to have British judges but hear cases from the uk also none of the Supreme Court Judges have sat in the ECJ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_European_Court_of_Justice

@tjd18

4 жыл бұрын

​@@TheJonnyzeus maybe read this www.judiciary.uk/about-the-judiciary/judges-career-paths/becoming-a-judge/ Most judicial posts will require a relevant legal qualification that has been held for either five or seven years. Government lawyers are eligible to apply for all judicial posts, but when sitting as a fee-paid judge they must not hear cases involving their own department. For salaried judicial appointments, applicants must normally have served as a fee-paid judicial office-holder for at least two years or have completed 30 sitting days since appointment in a fee-paid capacity.

@tjd18

4 жыл бұрын

@@CardboardBoxed considering Im dyslexic or and Welsh and I speak about 5 Different Languages so so much for illiterate would you like this Comment in Welsh/ Spanish/ Japanese / Korean or French/ or even Sign Language and im also learning Latin. por and by the way I have Bupa meaning I go Private and I still pay in to the NHS

Oh my

What law was broken?? No one has ever said why it is unlawful.

I mean he would have prorogued parliament with a declaration signed by an official representative who has the power to grant that sort of thing with permission granted for the appeal process, so it wasn't unlawful. It would have allowed him to be able to leave on the 31st of October with relative ease but now Parliament is going to push him out of office and push back the date even further to the point that they'll vote for another referendum (hopefully with a super majority required this time).

PMs must have weekly meetings with the Queen so that-if required, she can 'advise and warn' as she is constitutionally permitted to do drawing on over 60 years of experience of many PMs and range of political circumstances. It must be expected, therefore, that HM would have asked Boris about the length of the prorogation and after finding his answer satisfactory issue the order to prorogue. In 1975 HM had the PM of Australia dismissed from Office-now that's political. Also, HM is bound by her coronation oath to 'govern' according to the 'laws and customs' of the UK. Obviously HM is on the aid of the People and the Supreme Court is an ally of a renegade Parliament and its masters in Brussells.

Once the Courts start telling the government what it can and cannot do the people are in for a special kind of yellow brick road down that rabbit hole

I heard this for the first time today 08/03/23. At time frame 1.35 Chuka Umunna liberal MP makes a statement to the interviewer that is staggering. The MP doesn't get what just happened in court, because he states in the interview that what Boris did was against government's sovereignty. THE POINT IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT SOVEREIGN. The law is what is above us all. MP's who don't understand this need to know that if they are going to be an MP that they are a man or women just like every one else. Furthermore, that they are servants of the people, not on accent to a high throne hoping one day to become the greatest dictator of the world, no, leave that to the son of perdition.

We voted out!

Never seen so many smug ppl on telly, when the decision was made, Millar giving it harry large and Soubury, well... what did she say? No one will ever know cuz she had no idea herself. G.E. is the only way.

Now let's see if parliament 'scrutinizes Brexit' or whether they 'resume' childish party politics and farmyard noise.

@mnomadvfx

4 жыл бұрын

Parliament has always been farmyard noise, Brexit is just the latest tune playing on the radio.

That is not a balanced panel

Please god let's just have another vote, lets have another referendum, lets have another general election on bloody everything. and when Brexit wins again we can defenestrate these eejits.

Where has this panel been over the last 3.5 yrs?

Needs to go to the EU ask for extension, assuring them no intention of election (had two chances)or 2nd ref, so total waste of time for all.

Stop moaning about the outcome, just because it didn't go your way. The judges voted unanimously and you should always respect the outcome of a free vote. What is wrong with you people!

@Tony-1971

4 жыл бұрын

Eleven judges and one Gina Miller who are all remainers decided to stop brexit. Not very democratic since these 12 people aren't elected by the British people to make political decisions on our behalf. Hopefully the backlash will be that many angry British people will vote for right-wing nationalist parties. This is what is happening all across Europe.

She said it was unlawful... she has to apologise for that statement as there was no part of the prorogation that was unlawful. However - as I understand - a new law was created by the supreme court..

If you want referendums to mean anything, then you need a written constitution that explicitly says they are legally binding.

Let's have a general election ... .Oh wait ... we can't do that we will lose. 🤣🤣

That snp bloke with the glasses and colourful scarf is loving the limelight. I've seem him all over news this month.

@Quaid44

4 жыл бұрын

@@fotorabia That is too specific. Seems like psychological projection.

How the hell we got here in the first place

As a lawyer was astounded

@paulgibbons2320

4 жыл бұрын

As a lawyer would you agree that these judges are most likely protecting there jobs in european courts? I do not see how they can be at all impartial in this matter. Courts stand to lose alot of big money European court work.

@minimead368

4 жыл бұрын

Really? I mean come on people the laws the law, he prorogued Parliament by lying! you can’t do that!

@MindLeaker

4 жыл бұрын

As a martian neurosurgeon, I too can make claims about my occupation with no evidence on the internet.

@jwadaow

4 жыл бұрын

​@@minimead368 Which lie was that? The judiciary took advantage of a weak government to move power to the judiciary.

@LyleBarkerDrumCovers

4 жыл бұрын

@@paulgibbons2320 You're talking nonsense.

Comments full of people who don’t know the difference between unlawful and illegal, as well as people who don’t understand the Queen’s lack of decision-making power 😂🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

@jwadaow

4 жыл бұрын

The Queen has decision making power.

@lJADU

4 жыл бұрын

Unsubtle Major Dictator Boo 👎🏽 The Queen has some constitutional rights, and some gimmick-power, but she has no tangible decision making power 🤦🏽‍♂️

@jimmyjimalo6535

4 жыл бұрын

Please enlighten us we would like to learn.

@oneeyedphotographer

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know the difference between unlawful and illegal, can you explain it to me?

@danielbyrne5402

4 жыл бұрын

@@oneeyedphotographer don't hold your breath, he didn't thing it through

I reckon The Queen should call an 'extraordinary' Queen's Speech to re-set the whole parliamentary/government kerfuffle. General Election a bit risky though, innit? Whoever scrapes past the post would end up hung and have to grovel for a coalition !

oh Sure Mr QC &Party Brexit Candidate just rolled it back to 1668!! Good God!!

@MomentousGaming

4 жыл бұрын

The court discussed the 1688 Bill of Rights and rightly pointed out it says "proceeding in Parliament", prorogation is not a proceeding in Parliament, it takes place in the House of Lords. So this QC is as is typical for politicians, interpreting the law for their own benefit.

@sonofsomerset1695

4 жыл бұрын

@@MomentousGaming They were incorrect, Dr David Starkey the eminent history professor and constitutional expert has stated the judges read that but did not understand its context which did not apply in this case, the judges are not constitutional experts and did not understand the 1688 bill of rights. This ruling is invalid and against our constitution as shown by history.

@sonofsomerset1695

4 жыл бұрын

Get educated by the top constitutional expert on how this ruling was total bullshit: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qnudy8mshcarj9I.html

What's with the school disco, girls over here boys over there vibe of the studio set up? 😂

Yeah may have been invalid but it slowed you down that's enough for now

This is all because the Supreme Court are a bunch of remainers and don’t agree with what the public voted... Boris is just trying to deliver brexit, and not dither like every body else so let him get on with it and do his job. I genuflects nelly hope he succeeds for the good of the country

@fricozoid1

4 жыл бұрын

The Supreme Court ruled on wether prorogation was lawful, Boris categorically stated that prorogation had nothing to do with Brexit. Are you calling Boris a liar?

@Scudge0

4 жыл бұрын

fricozoid1 no, I am saying that the supreme court has made it to do with brexit because that is what they believe and are using that as means to say it is unlawful

Joanna Cherry don't play ✊🏾

@fotorabia

4 жыл бұрын

@rdmo83 Lady Hale is Spiderwoman..she heads the Supreme Court..

Just got electoral registration big bold letters in the corner saying YOUR VOTE MATTERS DON'T LOSE IT... Really And if you don't register you could be fined £80... Really.. If they can overturn a majority like this then think of what they can do to a minority whether your leave or stay they are not for you but themselves what have the last 3/4 prime ministers done for you

@Cupit29

4 жыл бұрын

You do not get fined for not registering to vote. Who the fuck told you that?

Not one brexit party member interviewed. Biased bbc again.

THE PEOPLE DEMAND A SECOND COURT CASE! THE PEOPLE MUST DECIDE!

@fricozoid1

4 жыл бұрын

Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage says prorogation of Parliament was 'the worst decision EVER'

Separation of powers? All but one of the supreme court justices supported remain. Surely it underpins their vested interest and this meddling in the the work of the executive. Judge made law should follow the intentions of the executive and I cannot believe that the judiciary would hold themselves superior to parliament, else it is the tail wagging the dog. The rule of law is supposedly always applicable... except when it is not and does not suit. Astonishing! Alfred Thompson Denning, we denizens of the UK need your fearlessness and clarity of thought now. Every trick in the book has been used to frustrate and overturn the referendum vote. The people must keep voting until we get the 'right' answer. Our European 'friends' have done everything they can to frustrate and impede the referendum result, in a truly shocking display of self-interest. How does a UK government find itself unwilling to follow the democratically expressed wishes of the governed?

Gina Miller. Sharia is also a law. Would you like us to be governed by this law? Law or not. The majority of the public can see what's going on here, and I hope every politician who tried to block the result of the referendum gets held to account. That means voted out as soon as possible. I think the public where only just waking up at 17.4M people....now the other 16M or so who vote must surely see what a mess the EU is making of the UK.

nowhere. the judgement is great but has zero further impact on brexit. nada.

Why government though?

@drakehound2244

4 жыл бұрын

Who would defend your internet connection without a government? Ops... it seems your safety and your freedom of opinion is supplied by a government with rules and law.

"On behalf of the People"... I don't think so.

@Derpaherpa123

4 жыл бұрын

Thiis elusive concept of 'the people'. Britain is not a homogeneous 'people' all with exactly the same views and ideas. Just because you dont agree with it you must represent the views of the whole of the UK

Can u pay us more please its getting hairy down here

MPs should not be working to stop the will of the poeple. thats all thats going on. to many MPs want to stay in the EU for there won personal reasons. thay dont care that more people wanted out than in. how is this lawful, how is this right..?

@samfcch7898

4 жыл бұрын

I'll explain how it's legal. The referendum was advisory only, meaning there was no legal obligation to invoke article 50, they did anyway because as you said it was "the will of the people". This means though that the future of the country is still dictated by parliament, it is their duty to scrutinise the government and also it's policies. Also your comment assumed that it is still "the will of the people" when the tide of polls disagrees with that entirely.

@stevegreen9460

4 жыл бұрын

@@samfcch7898 lol like the polls in the states repeatedly showed trump would lose the election...? lol or have you forget about that...? lol polls are proof of nothing. the only poll that proves aything is the direct vote by the people. besides what was voted for in 1975 was very diffrent to what we have now, why is that ok, but to say things have changed slightly in the last 3 years is reason enought to have a secound vote now...? what if the vote came back to leave again...? what then..? demand a third vote on it...? . what if the vote did come in to stay...? what then..best of 3 general votes...then best or 5 votes...where dose it end...? remainers just want to find any angle thay can to get what thay want. thats all it is. lets just not pretend its anything other than just that.

@samfcch7898

4 жыл бұрын

@@stevegreen9460 I agree that remainers want to find any angle to get what they want, of course, just as leavers want to. Hence Boris illegally suspended parliament. I do find it interesting though how people claimed to vote leave in order to "return sovereignty to parliament" but only as long as parliament agrees with them. They're quite happy to allow Boris to illegally suspend parliament as long as it gets them what they think they want.

@stevegreen9460

4 жыл бұрын

@@samfcch7898 how are leavers trying to find an angle...? thay dont even need to find an angle...the vote came in as a majority to leave, simple. goverment is having to resort to things like this to ensure democracy is preserved. so like I said most MPs want to stay in so there simple trying to get what thay want by crippling any way forward on this thing. thay make out its for other reasons but its not. thay just want to distroy any form of real brexit. if thay were not doing this the goverment would not of had to resort to such messures in the first place.

@samfcch7898

4 жыл бұрын

@Mark Smith the entire purpose of parliament is to scrutinise the government and pass laws? They don't exist the pander to Boris' every whim.

John Brecaw unconstitutionally decides the losing opposition party to take control and make laws, and the court here decides to cancel actions of the government. Then, what is the benefit of a party to win an an election? if others can make laws.

@fhmcateer

4 жыл бұрын

But the conservatives didn't win the last election

I wander how people would feel if a job advert had all the possible benefits, but once you get the job your boss tells you. Well I might have exaggerated slightly, you won't get that or that in fact you won't get most of the things I said you would! Would you still trust that boss and will you continue to work for him?

Shame on her colleaque....re ASSANGE

I really wish the news presenters would stop coming across as being so stupid and giving the impression they don't understand why an election cannot be call just yet or a vote of no confidence. Seriously, this isn't rocket science.

@blipboop5594

4 жыл бұрын

Come to the BBC for the what, go elsewhere for the why. It's a solid system that avoids accusations of bias.

The essence is not an election, the essence is a second meaningful referendum is what is due, voters be told that, are they seconding UK to leave without a deal? So far clear that Europe will not give UK a divorce agreement that UK wants. So, UK has to leave without a deal and the deal follow afterwards or not. Otherwise, UK should stay in the European Union if a no deal divorce would seriously harm UK than achievement of good. Let the first referendum be considered irresponsible democracy, that Socrates the initiator of the doctrine of democracy was sceptical about. Voters were lied to, with bluffs that 340 million a week will be saved if UK left the European Union. Total lies. I know someone would say politicians always lie anyway, but this was a blatant lie, Farage and Boris knew that they were telling a lie. Do you want to rubber-stamp campaign-lies, a wise person having a proper IQ functioning would say no. So, second referendum is the appropriate responsible democracy needful to be adopted as the remedy to resolving the Brexit question. Easy movement of UK people, exemption from import tax will all be lost. Exporters will find it difficult to having their products in other European markets. Companies or businesses will migrate from UK mainland to other European markets. The economy will slump, inflation will rise, unemployment will rise and pound sterling's value will drop. Products from European countries will become rare to find in UK or become expensive if found. That is fact known by anyone who studied and understood economics. After all, voters who think that foreigners will be ordered to leave UK, that shall never happen. Because foreigners are the ones running UK, go to dentistry clinics, GP clinics, hospitals, labour jobs such as cleaning or construction, the UK natives are very lazy, tea-cigarrette people in work-time. Foreigners fold their sleeves and work their skin off tirelessly. Working 40 hours and plus more per week. Foreigners owning houses or shops or businesses in UK is through hard work. They pay taxes upon which the natives of UK unemployed feed on. They pay into pension funds and leave that money here. Because of they retire in their motherland country.

@caseybaker2363

4 жыл бұрын

Moron.

@NSW-ye3xw

4 жыл бұрын

The essence is a general election that shithouse Corbyn won’t have. You say Nigel Farage is a liar. You need to watch LBC. Everything he says is backed up with evidence. Evidence don’t lie!

@keithburnett6169

4 жыл бұрын

BS

@kanoing

4 жыл бұрын

Pipi Cax Okay so first off, another referendum would be unconstitutional as we have already begun talks in leaving to the point that all we need to do is leave, secondly even if we did do another referendum there's a very popular poll that shows people would vote to leave in an attempt to hurry this up and get it over with. Thirdly, these foreigners you speak of aren't from the EU, they're from the Middle East and Asia and are migrants of war torn lands and illegal immigrants who shouldn't be here in the first place. Finally, the reason why we have so many unemployed is because the EU has been throwing their unwanted Migrants over our borders meaning we focus on putting them to work and giving them everything for free without bothering to help our own because otherwise it would be "unethical" by the rules of the EU. This is the thing that would change upon leaving. You have not said even one word that is remotely correct in your slur of a paragraph ergo please be quiet and allow the adults to do the thinking

@Cupit29

4 жыл бұрын

@@kanoing If people will vote leave again then why are you so afraid of another referendum?

mabe boris can take his case to a european court lol

@stephenconway2468

4 жыл бұрын

No. I wish people would understand that all that noise about being underneath the EU etc.. was rubbish. The UK is a sovereign nation. The Supreme Court is as high as this case can go. 11 out of 11 agreed, with zero reservations, that Boris acted illegally. I should add that JRM also was involved in this act.

There still needs to be a proroguement , there still needs to be a queens speech...This isn’t over by far, and if I’m correct only the queen can dissolve parliament.

@stephenconway2468

4 жыл бұрын

That right can be removed by Parliament.

Emily maitlis asking the dumb questions. Cherry already said no election until no deal is off the table.

Taking this Parliamentry matter through the courts shows the height of ignorance the MPs Lawyers and the so called panel of administraitors are not a Court of Record which is the Highest Court in the Land known as England. For the People are the true Sovereigns not parliament. Vox Populi Vox Dei...

We need to have another judgment. A people's judgment. They didn't know what they were judging on. They didn't have enough infomation. They were mislead. Big red bus 😭😭 😭

Full text of Judgement and Summary is available here: www.supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2019-0192.html

genuine question ..... Could the government appeal to the ECJ ???

@Vanilla_Donut

4 жыл бұрын

Would Boris, on the Leave campaign, go to the ECJ? After all that "Take back control". Even if Boris can, I doubt he would.

@damianeadie510

4 жыл бұрын

No. "The European Court of Justice only rules on issues relating to the interpretation of EU law and disputes between member states. Because this is a domestic constitutional issue, the European court has no jurisdiction. As such, the government has no further opportunities to appeal against the decision, as the Supreme Court is the highest in the UK." www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49809259

@paulgibbons2320

4 жыл бұрын

Why would they waste tax payers money on more bent judges.

@only1thatmakessense

4 жыл бұрын

@KFC wouldnt say that id just say they have their own agenda, as do the majority of people that actually bothered to vote

@LyleBarkerDrumCovers

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

Newsnight has become indispensible.

How the hell does the Queen have any thing to do with Boris's request. All she can do, is give an opinion, She's no barrister. The ones that are, will have to creep along with what she decides. Nothing fair about that. All the supreme judges are conservatives, I suppose. The royalty are more trouble than their worth. J. Calveley

@jimbrown4386

4 жыл бұрын

John Calveley . You make a statement. That all the supreme court judges are Conservative. You SUPPOSE. How stupid is that? You also question what the Queen had to do with the decision. In the next breath say she is more trouble than she is worth. So in your brilliant post you have said precisely nothing. WELL DONE SIR.

@jimbrown4386

4 жыл бұрын

Jim brown 18 hours ago John Calveley You ask me what worth are the Royal Family to this country. Well it is over 500 million a tear last year 550 million Google it. And you state that all the supreme court judges are Conservative. (you suppose). Prove it stupid.

the PM is not above the law, but what about the queen? is the queen above the law?

@dan79600

4 жыл бұрын

Actually yes, civil and criminal proceedings cannot be taken against the Sovereign as a person under UK law.

When a government or a party starts to question the decision of the highest court in the land, then we are on a slow road to autocracy. This is the stuff of banana republics. American style political judges are not the answer to the Brexit problem.

@kyrusinek

4 жыл бұрын

The supreme court in the UK is not the same as the one in the US. its not much older than 10years and was created by Tony Blair who has done so much damage to the UK and the middle east that he should be put on trial.

BBC determined to crush Brexit.

@damianeadie510

4 жыл бұрын

What a silly thing to say - they are only reporting on what happened. Be angry at the people who made you impossible promises instead.

@crymp2057

4 жыл бұрын

By reporting on what events that happened and interviewing people that support both sides of the argument??

@brittanydawn2633

4 жыл бұрын

So first you believed the EU were against you. Then the British parliament. Then the BBC. Now the Supreme Court. Is there no end to this destructive Brexit victim narrative? Everyone's the bad guy except those who persuaded you to vote leave by lying? Brexit is the new Stockholm syndrome.

@Sam_Kings

4 жыл бұрын

@@brittanydawn2633 if you think the current parliament is acting in a way to fulfill the outcome of the referendum you are deluded.

@Infernal460

4 жыл бұрын

@@damianeadie510 What promise ? Defiine what you say.

This whole discourse is toxic. The country has been split by nationalist rhetoric and propaganda. It’s really awful to see how divided the UK has become due to the weaponisation of the spread of false / misleading information. It’s just really upsetting this is where we’ve ended up 🤷‍♂️

@carbon1255

4 жыл бұрын

IKR, Maybe we should ban this EU Nationalism as extremist.

@mattd8725

4 жыл бұрын

It was toxic before the vote. My dad said that you don't flip over rocks in your garden unless you are ready to see what is living underneath them.

Proud of my MP well done Joana Cherry 👏👏👏

The supreme court rules that MPs can continue to frustrate and prevent the will of the people...

@Whatever4690

4 жыл бұрын

@@Fezzy976 Bullshit excuses, you're simply justifying corruption from the elite and making a mockery of the votes of people you don't agree with, banana republic UK.

@jerry2357

4 жыл бұрын

The MPs were elected by the people since the result of the advisory referendum. Why did the people elect them if they didn’t agree with their politics? And we would have left the EU months ago if the vote on the agreement for leaving the EU had been passed. Why wasn’t it passed? Because a group of pro-Brexit MPs voted against it, whereas many pro-remain MPs voted in favour. Blame the pro-Brexit MPs who voted against the agreed Brexit deal for the current situation.

I'm so bored of Brexit!

I didn't like Boris before, but I think he's doing a great job at being PM he's really trying and everyone is against him. I voted remain but he should just go HARD BREXIT afterall that's what got the majority vote. I'm all for fairness and democracy. However I think since Scotland and Northern Ireland didn't vote leave they should stay in. Rather like Scandinavia, Denmark Sweden and Finland are part of the EU but Norway and Iceland are not. Scandinavians can work travel and live in these countries without passports, work permits or visas they just need to register their address. We could have a system the same here.

@Cupit29

4 жыл бұрын

If we had that same system it wouldn't be a HARD BREXIT now would it? We would have a deal.

This is embarrassing

argues 1688 bill of rights...This guy does not know what he is talking about

@sonofsomerset1695

4 жыл бұрын

Get educated, this ruling was invalid in English Law kzread.info/dash/bejne/qnudy8mshcarj9I.html

Divorces are so ugly. One thing is agreeing to call it quits. Another entirely different thing is agreeing on how much the split is going to cost us all. It seems the initial mandate from voters was to split, without fully understanding at what cost. But now that the price tag has been assessed, remorseful members of the family want to rescind the decision to split. --- My heart goes out to Britain! Both sides have very compelling arguments. Tough impasse, mates. Good luck!

@raivedarkstone7378

4 жыл бұрын

At the moment it's all still theory, something like this has never happened before we won't truly know the cost or reward until it's happened and we can fully assess, peoples inability to debate properly like grown ups have caused the simmering pot in the UK to blow, we now have an outcome of a government who want to ignore a majority vote and one of the most important votes this country has seen, or leaving the EU and seeing what happens, making our own, new trade deals...... it won't be pretty either way but this country is in a LOT of trouble if extremely left liberals get their hands on the wheel......

@blancablanco1762

4 жыл бұрын

@@raivedarkstone7378, uncertainty seems to be norm in many nations nowadays. Waiting for the other shoe to drop is what makes it unbearable.

@raivedarkstone7378

4 жыл бұрын

@@blancablanco1762 It's been years, a majority of people in the UK want to rip the plaster (band aid) off and just get it done with then begin dealing with the fallout, unfortunately the minority seem to be digging their heels in throwing tantrums at every corner and prolonging the process even longer, and STILL want to make it last and last until t hey can find some sort of loophole whilst STILL preaching as democracy incarnate..... it's quite sad, the UK is at a point of inner turmoil, this could have all been remedied long before the referendum if they were willing to sit down with the UK and make a feasible workable deal, even after the result they saw (from a business comparison) they're losing one of their best customers and their attitude (certainly juncker) was "pack your bags and leave, why are you here!, you voted to leave!".

@blancablanco1762

4 жыл бұрын

@@raivedarkstone7378 , no doubt the situation is extremely frustrating. When the only way is to go through something difficult, resistance is to be expected. In today's reality, convincing anyone to sacrifice for the greater good is virtually an impossibility without a leader to inspire and unify the people. Such leadership is hard to find these days of "what's in it for me". Still, we shall not lose hope, mate.

@raivedarkstone7378

4 жыл бұрын

@@blancablanco1762 If people could have a conversation and debate like we are now, things might actually get done :)

Bendy Banana republic, well you got it! Hope ur happy now. International laughing stock! Glad it's not my country.

@michaelheery7427

4 жыл бұрын

Its same in kenya.

@stevencassidy6982

4 жыл бұрын

And what country are you from? I notice you cowardly left that out

@troyburgeon518

4 жыл бұрын

Steven Cassidy Of course he won’t because the coutry he is from is probably a shit stain on the world map.

Shutting down parliament, not even Hitler would of done that.!!

What a tangled web you weave when you are trying to deceive.

What next for Boris!! A Deal with Farage or He Will Lose the Country Brexit!!

Why does the music from anything British, sound the same?

Lady Hale is a devout remainer- I rest my case!

@fricozoid1

4 жыл бұрын

You haven't even put a case forward. It's like a prosecuting lawyer in a murder case walking into court, pointing at a suspect and claiming "he did it...I rest my case".

But the reason it has come to this is because democracy has not been up hold....... shame on them

@damianeadie510

4 жыл бұрын

What nonsense - this ruling is supporting OUR democracy. It ruled that an egomaniacal liar like Boris who only 0.13% of the population voted for, can't shove OUR elected representatives aside like a 10 year old rugby player when he finds it inconvenient. Just 26% of the eligible population were persuaded to vote to Leave foe various reasons - and not one of them voted on HOW... that was left to Parliament, which the Supreme Court reaffirms is Sovereign. Be angry instead at the lies you were told and the empty impossible promises.

@paulgibbons2320

4 жыл бұрын

@@damianeadie510 fuck off. Remainers don't get to harp on about democracy. You don't know what it means.

Not according to the Attorney General who advised Boris Johnson that it would be lawful under Parliamentry laws it was legal, and it has been said that Supreme Courts laws are different to Parliaments rules and laws therefore BJ did not break the laws of Parliament, and BJs lawyer should have mentioned this to the court in defence

It was like the mere fact that the woman was saying it. ✌️👏🔥

Parliament has it’s own mechanisms in place to deal with ‘a rogue’ PM misusing the prerogative power and they chose not to utilise them for political advantage, one of the judges even alluded to them not going for a GE or vote of no confidence because of this so please embittered remainers don’t tell me this decision wasn’t politically motivated. I’m getting really sick of being nice about this remainers are seeking to disenfranchise me.

i think the queen is in charge of the army,did boris get whipped down to to dungens?