*See title* Me: "Ooooh, this could be interesting!" CGP Grey: "Literally nothing has changed" Me: "Oh..."

@webbowser8834

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed, this is the most CGP Grey video that Grey has made in some time. Complete with his signature deadpan.

@bokkenka

4 жыл бұрын

CGP Grey: "But I did get a video out of it, so that's something!"

@SwordsmanRyan

4 жыл бұрын

A lot has changed! States, too beholden to their political class, have been pushing to outlaw faithless electors. It used to be that faithless electors were an extra check against stupid voters who, when they discovered the election was actually between Kang and Kodos, voted for Kang. The electors could ignore the ballot count and vote for H. Ross Perot, the only actual human in the running. With this ruling, we’re stuck listening to the stupid voters instead of their intellectual betters: the electoral college.

@KingMagenta

4 жыл бұрын

Manannan anam What does China have to do with this?

@Stiksta

4 жыл бұрын

I really hate when the federal powers pass responsibility down to the states for things that should obviously be consistent nation wide. Like grow a damn ballsack and just do something that isn't at a snail's pace already. See everyone in 2055 when the last southern state finally legalizes marijuana while half the country has been enjoying it legally. Or god forbid, if something like UBI gets passed and only certain states get to enjoy it. Medicare for all (and not just old people) etc.

I love how every time Grey shows the Supreme Court they look wholly uninterested in whatever's happening at the time. 😂

@davidhong1934

4 жыл бұрын

When you have states like New York dumping dirt on an island to declare ownership, you get rather bored of petty shenanigans pretty quickly

@jacksonwilliams8971

4 жыл бұрын

If the Constitution almost completely forbade that you get fired (ya ya I know about Samuel Chase), would you still pretend to care about your job?

@flazzorb

4 жыл бұрын

That's probably because they usually do, after all, most cases they handle are either _"tripe but necessary"_ or _"tedious and important"_

@Fusselwurmify

4 жыл бұрын

@@jacksonwilliams8971 heck yes. hint: not every job is mindless drudgery that no-one enjoys.

@jamesklark6562

4 жыл бұрын

They just split Oklahoma in half over a child diddling dispute just 2 days ago.

Politics is like trying to bugfix someone's horrible code without them wanting you to.

@GuiSmith

Жыл бұрын

A horrifying accurate analogy.

I FINALLY FOUND THE BEE it's on the back of the train at 2:05

@frostyblade8842

3 жыл бұрын

Damn. Nice catch

@patrickbaker7014

3 жыл бұрын

??? Is there like a bee comeo in every video or something?

@Botassiumm

3 жыл бұрын

I can’t beelieve it was there the whole time

@TornadoHarry

3 жыл бұрын

@@patrickbaker7014 yeah he hides one in every video

@patrickbaker7014

3 жыл бұрын

@@TornadoHarry bruh that's sick, and also a perfect excuse to rewatch every video of his

grey: 'nothing happened' me: 'i've learned so much'

@juniormatsuda5116

4 жыл бұрын

Me, a Brazilian : I am a master in American politics now

@scuevas1

4 жыл бұрын

Junior Matsuda come to America

@arieldahl

4 жыл бұрын

I came here looking for such a comment dear Royce sir.

@benurm2390

4 жыл бұрын

@@scuevas1 Brazil is on America

@RayanfhoulaBR

4 жыл бұрын

@@scuevas1 This is the pure definition of "Uno reverse card"

The court: hey states remember that things we agreed on like a few 100 years ago. The states: yeah The court: good just reminding you it exist

@EpicMathTime

4 жыл бұрын

-we did a thing-

@grovemeister04

4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant

@justanotheranimationchanne5725

4 жыл бұрын

1000 SUBBS B4 COVID 19 no thank you

@mirookhedr8429

4 жыл бұрын

@@venttiktok2477 يا حبيبي انت معرفش

@grovemeister04

4 жыл бұрын

@@venttiktok2477 Really guy? I came to CPG Grey's channel because he's got amazing content a great community and you have to come down and ruin my immersion? I'm kind of dissapointed with youtube's soulless copy pasted comment section anyway and you aren't helping.

I love the level of apathy showed by the Supreme Court Stick Figure.

@nenmaster5218

2 жыл бұрын

Let me RANDOMLY recommend stuff, cause why not? Aaaand we're in a Quality-Drought (dont deny it!)... Here: -Veritasium. -Its ok to be smart. -Hbomberguy. -Oversimplified. -Krosmo. -Viced Rhino. -Believe it or Not. -Redditor. -Michio Kaku. -Practical Engineering. -Neil Red. -Slevin Channel. -Magma Musen.

I'm assuming the "image missing" flag is a reference to the current Mississippi flag issue.

@ericr.malice318

4 жыл бұрын

Probably. What about Tennesse though? And Georgia? Sorry, I'm Welsh, so I'm not sure if I got the state-flag combos right.

@dylandylan5814

4 жыл бұрын

@@ericr.malice318 its mainly about Mississippi because they were the first to leave the union so its a hot topic down here.

@Jedibob5

4 жыл бұрын

@@dylandylan5814 South Carolina was the first state to secede from the union.

@sashavaleria4287

4 жыл бұрын

@@ericr.malice318 the issue is really only with the mississippi state flag, as it's the only current US state flag that contains the confederate states of america battle standard on it. Those other states you mentioned, do not, and as such aren't any issue.

@sashavaleria4287

4 жыл бұрын

to further expound on this, alabama and florida both use a red cross of st. andrews as the basis of their flag, and while it does invoke the confederate battle standard, it can also invoke the Spanish Cross of Burgundy, and is also just a really weird symbol to get touchy about (IMO) as it's like, also in other flags that have nothing to do with the confederacy Georgia's flag is sometimes equated to the confederate stars and bars, the actual national flag of the confederacy, but honestly i'd take it over the flag georgia used in 2000 any day of the year. the one they use now is pretty damn close to the first ever official georgia flag anyway so meh

I love the "image not found" for Mississippi's skirt 3:39

@maxblechman2665

4 жыл бұрын

Glad someone else noticed it, was just about to comment that.

@fdagpigj

4 жыл бұрын

What's the joke there?

@meltedghost9922

4 жыл бұрын

@@fdagpigj as of June 30th Mississippi doesn't have an official state flag since that part of their state code was removed by their legislature so the joke is that the flag image was not found because it does not currently exist

@DreadGhast

4 жыл бұрын

@@fdagpigj Mississippi just retired their old flag that had the Confederate flag as a part of it. They haven't decided on a new design yet, that I know of.

@daphnie816

4 жыл бұрын

@@fdagpigj Mississippi currently has the confederate flag emblem on their state flag. They recently passed a vote to get the flag design changed. (If you're not American, the confederate flag is what The South used in the civil war and is seen by MANY as a symbol of racism and slavery.)

I really appreciate him putting the effort in giving the states their own skirts and personalities. The cowboy hat and dual pistols on Texas is awesome

@danielwebb3173

4 жыл бұрын

And then Wyoming riding the bison

@jacoL8

4 жыл бұрын

And Mississippi not having a flag lol

@djhalling

4 жыл бұрын

Is there some reason why Rhode Island is stuck outside looking unhappy at 0:12? Or, for that matter, why only one (Michigan?) looks happy?

@ragepoweredgamer

4 жыл бұрын

I think you mean DUEL PISTOLS! _Yeehaws and shoots into the air while doing the prospector dance_

@TlalocTemporal

4 жыл бұрын

@@djhalling -- I'd guess that the electoral college was developed before Rhode Island became a state, or otherwise didn't get it's way.

i like how grey is able to be so involved in politics on his channel and yet not give any information on his political views at all. i like it. keep it purely educational :)

@Miranox2

3 жыл бұрын

He is just explaining how the system works. However, since he is clearly in favor of removing the Electoral College then it's also clear which side of the political aisle he fits in.

@NexGenration99

3 жыл бұрын

@@Miranox2 and that side off the political fence would be? i get mixed up sometimes with what sides stand for what

@Miranox2

3 жыл бұрын

@@NexGenration99 In the popular left-right spectrum, CGP Grey is definitely on the left. He's probably center-left since he's more detached than the average person.

@NexGenration99

3 жыл бұрын

@@Miranox2 so like technically on the left but not enough to be considered a "leftist"?

@Miranox2

3 жыл бұрын

@@NexGenration99 CGP is definitely no radical if that's what you mean. I wish more people on the left were like him.

Hey Grey, this is a small point, but I'm colorblind, and the distinction between the orange and the yellow candidates is sometimes a little bit hard to see. For future work, could the contrast between the colors be increased? I think this would increase watchability/interpretability, even for non-colorblind people.

@Dude-cf8hb

4 жыл бұрын

how about he just adds symbols for orange and symbols for yellow? that way, the issue of colourblind people is solved without changing the colours of the 'parties'

@Leander_

4 жыл бұрын

@@Dude-cf8hb Sure, that works. Just party 'A' and party 'B'.

@cogspace

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe upvote orange and downvote blue? =)

@dmtha3rd

3 жыл бұрын

@@cogspace nah, to similar to red and blue. The current party colors

@pacattack2586

3 жыл бұрын

@@dmtha3rd Blue and yellow are the best possible colors for colorblind people you could also use white and black but that has... more issues

Supreme court: this thing we already agreed on was agreed on News outlets: is this large changes to how our country elects officials?

@Marinealver

4 жыл бұрын

The news seems adamant in eroding faith and confidence in elections. Well we can always go back to hereditary successors if that makes everyone happier (I doubt it would, I wouldn't be happy about it).

@DavidGuild

4 жыл бұрын

Interestingly, that's also exactly the story with the _Russo_ case the other week. They agreed on the thing last time and just reaffirmed that yes it still counts.

@mollistuff

4 жыл бұрын

@@Marinealver The news definitely wouldn't be happy. You only get breaking news about royals when the previous one dies. Stability is pretty much their only virtue. According to UK precedent, there's a lot more boring filler about royal wardrobes though

@gadrill4285

4 жыл бұрын

@@mollistuff Ah yes, monarchies: historically a very stable system that never led to civil war since the succession was always very clear cut and respected by all.

@Chronoflation

4 жыл бұрын

Our media in a nutshell

Hes really knocking it out of the park these days... Ive lost count of how many videos hes done this year! :O

@funtainment777

4 жыл бұрын

i think 5 or 6 counting the pirate videos separately

@oliverm1255

4 жыл бұрын

Its insane!

@mervinhocsonart1921

4 жыл бұрын

I guess that's what happens when you're mandated to stay at home for 90% of the time.

@PunkHerr

4 жыл бұрын

@@funtainment777 I'd say 9? I looked it up.

@saw7191

4 жыл бұрын

Good for him!

The states are in charge of the voting process arent they? Why would the Supreme Court do anything else but say, "This is your job. Actually do it."

@eifbkcn

4 жыл бұрын

The question was on the authority of the states themselves though. Even so, the Court should have largely stayed out of the matter. If a bunch of electors were corrupted Congress can just not count their votes. The only thing the Court needed to do was say Washington couldn't fine people for their votes after Congress said they didn't have a problem with the votes cast. As you can see, the Court failed this simple task.

@sanjicook08

3 жыл бұрын

@666NedFlanders The states hold an election for President, not the federal government.

@jamesbond9975

3 жыл бұрын

@@sanjicook08 The states also hold elections for their Congressional representation as well but it doesn't change the fact that it's a federal election. States have tried passing term limit laws for congressman but the courts have ruled these laws are unconstitutional.

@aolson1111

3 жыл бұрын

@@sanjicook08 That has nothing to do with his comment.

@ethanweeter2732

3 жыл бұрын

@@eifbkcn Yes. Especially with a President who believes in states’s right to their own governments.

I'm so dumb I thought it meant that they didn't believe in God

“Absolutely nothing has changed” - American politics in a nutshell

@davidhong1934

4 жыл бұрын

"It just works" - Todd Howard

@mbogucki1

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidhong1934 Except it doesn't; see gerrymandering for example.

@archbishopmactasty76

4 жыл бұрын

@@dr1zzled_d1ce14 If you take into account how large America is what do your expect?

@Salted_Fysh

4 жыл бұрын

@@dr1zzled_d1ce14 if by lazyness and tradition we mean corporate interest, personal gain and power politics of course.

@VAB0L0

4 жыл бұрын

@@mbogucki1 It does work, though; power is kept in the hands of the wealthy, and wealth is kept away from the masses. It just doesn't work like we are told it does!

Big thumbs up for the "Top Sneaky" file

@metadragon7500

4 жыл бұрын

You would think NaPoVoInterCo girl would use the ‘boring documents pertaining to elections’ folder in the previous video.

@xja85mac

4 жыл бұрын

I want to see it!

@awhahoo

4 жыл бұрын

Top sneaky

@captainrexct7529

4 жыл бұрын

Being interested in the NaPoVoInterCo vote, seeing this video pop up in my sub box gave me a momentary heart attack thinking that it was kaput.

@consurge1002

4 жыл бұрын

The sneaky plan is a pretty dangerous plan. The scenario goes like this: One candidate wins the electoral college but loses the popular vote. A state decides that they will give their votes to the popular candidate despite the choice that their state made. It will head to the courts and both sides will probably claim victory. Violence ensues and factions form thus starting another civil war. The plan is basically very flawed and only has support from some states, it will only work if all states agree with it and that's difficult already.

FINALLY someone clarifies the difference between saying what the states CAN do and what actually happens.

"As for now, absolutely nothing has changed." Whelp that's the U.S. government for you

I love how the music is a chill version of the “grey explains” music because *nothing* really happened

@MatthewMilton

4 жыл бұрын

Should I quit youtube my friends keep making fun of me for it

@zeroanimation3956

4 жыл бұрын

@@MatthewMilton dude WTF?

@ollie2111

4 жыл бұрын

Really? I'm gonna watch it again just to hear that ☺

@Lucas_Jeffrey

4 жыл бұрын

@@MatthewMilton yes you should, absolutely

@louistyrone871

4 жыл бұрын

@@MatthewMilton yes. get your money up and your time up, and do what you want once you outta school or whatever

We live in Strange Times when a court deciding that the status-quo still applies is headline news.

@charlottelondyn805

4 жыл бұрын

Gwallter Rixon that could be a newspaper title. Yeah, the Strange Times... I like it.

@harrytsang1501

4 жыл бұрын

It is July, they need to make up some shit or some worse shit will happen like every other month in 2020

@Gyohdon

4 жыл бұрын

the media is filled with halfwits and liars

@armedwombat6816

4 жыл бұрын

THAT'S what makes these times strange to you?

@jacksonlarson6099

4 жыл бұрын

@@armedwombat6816 It's the craziest thing that has happened this year, I tell ya.

“You had to be in the capital where it’s happening” You mean you wanna be in the room where it happens?

@generic9732

3 жыл бұрын

hamilton?

@warren5037

3 жыл бұрын

ABSOLUTELY. Bring some snacks too.

@Yal_Rathol

3 жыл бұрын

the room where it happens. the room where it happens. the room where it happens. i gotta be in the room. the room where it happens.

@adjbey

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🙃😂

@Campeon99

3 жыл бұрын

@@Yal_Rathol no one else was in the room where it happens, the room where it happens, the room where it happens

Question that will probably never be answered: How does this system with electors work if a state votes for an independent candidate, not connected to either party?

@MechanicalMarketer253

3 жыл бұрын

Then that party would send their own electors

@ems810

3 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicalMarketer253 Independent. Not connected to "a" party. Sorry if unclear.

@MechanicalMarketer253

3 жыл бұрын

Silver oh I see. Well that probably isn’t very likely to happen, but if it did then the state would probably just create a party and electors and send them. They’d probably have to do that REALLY fast though.

@Quintinohthree

3 жыл бұрын

Candidates appearring on a ballot have designated their nominated electors in advance. As far as the state us concerned, those nominated electors are the party.

@21stcenturyfossil7

3 жыл бұрын

In Illinois, the Presidential election that counts is the election for the electors. If a Presidential candidate wins the popular vote but didn't run a slate of electors, that candidate would not get any electoral votes.

*The Supreme Court has made a ruling: absolutely nothing has changed!* Yeah that sounds about right.

@MrBassmann15

4 жыл бұрын

Supreme Court: The state of Georgia cannot force Native Americans off of their property. Andrew Jackson: You've made your decision, now try to enforce it.

@jamesklark6562

4 жыл бұрын

The Supreme Court just a few days ago split the state of Oklahoma in half over a child diddling dispute. Imagine your Native American Nation being founded over child diddling.

@christianaquilina5434

4 жыл бұрын

Welcome to legal quantum state, Yes and No, no but yes. It serves to make sure the rules haven t changed. Very little, in the right direction, still pretty little

I saw a headline about that ruling and immediately thought, "But what about NAPoVoInterCo?" and thought about emailing Mr. Grey and asking and then he goes and makes another video to pass the info on. Thank you, my good sir!

@icedragon769

4 жыл бұрын

The NPVIC has nothing to do with faithless electors. Faithless electors are people who break the law about how the state says they have to vote. Electors can be faithless (or required not to be) whether their mandate comes from a national election, a state election, an executive appointment, or the meteorological opinion of a groundhog.

@Mach10X

4 жыл бұрын

Right I was worried this would make it federally illegal for states to activate NaPoVoInterCo...I wonder if they will be required to repeal faithless elector laws in order to activate it?

@icedragon769

4 жыл бұрын

@@marcusroberts7669 it is illegal for states to withhold vote totals for any reason (3 USC 6), those laws have no teeth. Imagine if a state refused to release the vote totals, the electors all voted for Bob, then on January 22 the state reveals that the state vote was a majority for Alice. Waiting to announce vote totals until after the new administration takes power is a perfect environment for rigging.

@LibertyMonk

4 жыл бұрын

@@marcusroberts7669 which states? Do they have actual laws, or is it just something they'll do? Does that mean nobody will know who won the election until after the EC vote? In any case, there is federal legal requirement for state popular vote totals and the names of appointed electors to be provided on a Certificate of Ascertainment, on or before the date that the Electors meet. Failing to provide a legally sufficient Certificate before the deadline would be bizarre.

@takatamiyagawa5688

4 жыл бұрын

@@icedragon769 You sure that applies to the raw vote count, and not just to the identities of electors? NPV could theoretically get around it by just using whatever part of the national popular vote is known by early-December, so no state has a motive to not report their vote totals.

I think KZread might be broken. I **just now** got a notification for this video

Whenever I was younger, I thought voting was pointless because there was a small group of people who chose the President, and our votes didn’t do anything. The fact that I was kind of right over 10 years ago is a little scary

@nenmaster5218

2 жыл бұрын

Let me RANDOMLY recommend stuff, cause why not? Aaaand we're in a Quality-Drought (dont deny it!)... Here: -Veritasium. -Its ok to be smart. -Hbomberguy. -Oversimplified. -Krosmo. -Viced Rhino. -Believe it or Not. -Redditor. -Michio Kaku. -Practical Engineering. -Neil Red. -Slevin Channel. -Magma Musen.

@mkgaca8721

2 жыл бұрын

@@nenmaster5218 wait why do this in replies???

@gootz3182

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlphaCarinae The _states_ cast it, not the _people_ . The states are free to vote _however they want_ , even against the citizens (but this is rare)

@edwardwilson8713

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlphaCarinae Yes remove the middle man that is oh right, having a different person than the people wanted to be president be president, how horrible

@lukem5202

2 жыл бұрын

There are other, better ways to interact with politics without just voting in elections.

Interestingly, I don't think state laws can actually invalidate a faithless vote, just punish the guy when he comes home.

@zachhopkins6162

4 жыл бұрын

They do/can actually. 33 (including DC) require by law that they vote for the democratically chosen. About 8 of those cancel the vote made by a faithless elector.

@connorschultz380

4 жыл бұрын

@@zachhopkins6162 they may say they do, but the supreme court has never actually said If there able to cancel the vote or not from my understanding there only able to place conditions on them becoming/beinging an elector, and they can't interfere with the vote after

@Tinfoil_Hardhat

4 жыл бұрын

@@zachhopkins6162 Well there are 8 states that don't follow recognized self defense rights, so states doing something doesn't mean they're supposed to.

@regaleagle6533

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tinfoil_Hardhat I believe 35 states have stand your ground laws and don't follow recognized self defense rights.

@regaleagle6533

3 жыл бұрын

@@a.wadderphiltyr1559 I just don't like legalized southern white on black murder.

I'm starting to feel that Grey is getting kinda obsessed with the EC

@Adventurer32

4 жыл бұрын

Ya think?

@Detahramet

4 жыл бұрын

It is kind of an abortion of democracy.

@pinkysweets

4 жыл бұрын

anyone that's interested in political science should. This is something that should not work in modern time actually still working

@Ergzay

4 жыл бұрын

@@Detahramet Well it wasn't supposed to be democracy... That was never the intention. As Grey stated in another video "working as planned".

@MrSaverio97

4 жыл бұрын

No I think it's only a coincidence

"Absolutely nothing has changed' *Me, a Eastern European* : "I didn't even know before what was that hadn't changed."

Hello to my fellow people currently coping with the election.

@nenmaster5218

2 жыл бұрын

Let me RANDOMLY recommend stuff, cause why not? Aaaand we're in a Quality-Drought (dont deny it!)... Here: -Veritasium. -Its ok to be smart. -Hbomberguy. -Oversimplified. -Krosmo. -Viced Rhino. -Believe it or Not. -Redditor. -Michio Kaku. -Practical Engineering. -Neil Red. -Slevin Channel. -Magma Musen.

Wait, this is all a ruse! The Supreme Court isn’t deciding on Faithless Electors. They’re deciding on what to do with Tumbleweeds!

@mothiieeo

4 жыл бұрын

NOOOOOOOOOOO

@gavros9636

4 жыл бұрын

We already decided on that one, we were going to deport them to reservations.

@madeinchina4179

4 жыл бұрын

Now that you know the secret, we can’t let you leave

The best update video: teaches you something, while concluding that nothing has changed

That’s actually really good to know. I got a little worried when I heard about it. Thanks for digging in

Props to Grey for getting this out so quickly. You must have been hustling.

you just couldn't resist saying "nothing burger," could you?

@NonTwinBrothers

4 жыл бұрын

I thought he was gonna spell an acronym for it, lol

@muhilan8540

4 жыл бұрын

What is with every politician and cable news pundit saying that phrase lately?

@DefenestrateYourself

4 жыл бұрын

Muhilan Selvaa It’s been around for awhile

@325bpm6

4 жыл бұрын

325th like (I think

@onedeadsaint

4 жыл бұрын

@@325bpm6 yep lol

Well this did accomplish one thing. Now no one can challenge the states when they punish or ban faithless electors, because the supreme court has recently given them updated permission to do it.

@joesterling4299

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. I find his explanation unpersuasive. This year, being the most contentious in my long American experience, needed a binding affirmation of our electoral principles. People find it difficult to have faith in the political process already. They don't need the possibility of faithless electors stealing the election adding to their grief. And we have a unanimous decision to boot. Certainty is a welcome change from the daily chaos. The case originated from three faithless electors bringing suit for being fined for voting the wrong way in the 2016 election. The High Court held that "A State may enforce an elector’s pledge to support his party’s nominee-and the state voters’ choice-for President." They also stated that there is no language in the US Constitution granting electors voting discretion. That's not a "nothing burger" from my perspective. Electors are not free to vote as they see fit, and that principle is now backed by a 9-0 Supreme-Court mandate.

@OnTreader

4 жыл бұрын

@@joesterling4299 Perhaps these certain people would benefit from actually learning about the political process rather than allowing corrupt party politics to continue warping it? Electors are free to vote as they see fit in any state that doesn't pass laws punishing them for doing so. Electors are supposed to be faithless. You are not supposed to elect the President, the states are. The same way you elect senators to represent your state in Congress, you elect electors to represent your state in the Electoral College. You do not elect any of them to make the decisions you want to make. If you want to make decisions then you become an elector/senator/representative etc. You elect them to make the decisions they think they should make. The daily chaos exists because of people's ignorance and refusal to take a meaningful and HONEST role in the political process.

@OnTreader

4 жыл бұрын

@Brandon Gibson be careful not to stray into other people's neighborhoods and try to change what you want.

@TheAwesomeLetsPlays

4 жыл бұрын

@@joesterling4299 That's just it, though - it affirms the states' rights to punish faithless electors IF THEY CHOOSE. That, to me, gives no extra stability to this political climate, as now, if states choose not to punish these electors, SCOTUS has also affirmed the right for that to occur. It's a double-edged sword; in that, you cannot have one without the other, and if you have the potential for increased instability, you cannot then have stability.

@jjtomecek1623

4 жыл бұрын

That was literally already the status quo based off of a previous supreme court case. Nothing's changed except that now everyone is reminded of what the rules are.

4:11 Elector: W-wait, who's that random guy up there?! Supreme Court Justice: *completely disinterested in all things related to life* oh, that's just CGP Grey...he likes watching this chaos unfold. *deep sigh of meehhhh* NaPoVoInterCo, *please* get off my desk.

Keep us in the loop!! Very much appreciated

Grey: turns on member only Me: sorts comments by new so he can chat This is big brain time

@TheBluePhoenix008

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@maximuscraig8222

4 жыл бұрын

the intellect

@cookiecakeeater6340

4 жыл бұрын

Good idea

@AwesomeTheAsim

4 жыл бұрын

This is stolen and you didn't even care when you wrote this. What do you mean "He can chat" W and H are not close, you wrote this only for likes.

@astra_m00n

4 жыл бұрын

@@AwesomeTheAsim It only implies the commentor what a 'he'. It was not a misspelling. He is a he.

Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Big News from the political front: Nothing has changed!

LOVE your simpłe, but effective and entertaining stick figure animation that brings such fun to what would otherwise be fairly dry content. kudos to you, sir! Mérci

@nenmaster5218

2 жыл бұрын

Let me RANDOMLY recommend stuff, cause why not? Aaaand we're in a Quality-Drought (dont deny it!)... Here: -Veritasium. -Its ok to be smart. -Hbomberguy. -Oversimplified. -Krosmo. -Viced Rhino. -Believe it or Not. -Redditor. -Michio Kaku. -Practical Engineering.

1:26 I don't think I noticed before, but having sidenote text with a slash at the end of the segment was a reference to how HTML Tags work. Yes, I know you probably don't care but it's still cool

It doesn't even allow states to prevent faithless electors. It just allows them to punish faithless electors after the fact. That's a critical difference, legally.

@MechanicalMarketer253

4 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t matter anyway. Even if being a faithless elector is legal in your state, it’s political suicide.

@hogpen

4 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicalMarketer253 a coup is always political suicide.... if it fails.

@tocomment9638

4 жыл бұрын

agreed, was just going to say this. Disappointed that Grey didn't make this clear.

@ObeseYeti

4 жыл бұрын

AFAIK the case was separated into two cases; one about the states punishing faithless electors, the other about states removing someone who switched their vote and replacing them with someone who will vote as pledged. I believe the supreme court upheld both

@Walkerman379

4 жыл бұрын

@@ObeseYeti Yes, exactly. in 2016 there were electors in Colorado and Minnesota who tried to cast votes for Sanders but they got overruled and swapped out for alternate electors.

I love how bored the Supreme Court character looks.

At the end, it's a breakdown of the theme music that you used in a lot of your early videos! Very cool! Do mi sol, sol mi do, ti mi la sol....

There are so many Electoral College videos that there needs to be a playlist.

people after are going to be so confused when the chat is empty and the comments make no sense

@agisg4077

4 жыл бұрын

Like now for example?

@jamesr.2017

4 жыл бұрын

For future people: gray turned on members only chat, and you essentially had to pay 5 dollars to talk in live chat.

@x--.

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesr.2017 Thank you for that clarification. I wasn't even aware there was such a thing as Members Only Chat on KZread.

@linklayer1318

4 жыл бұрын

@@x--. You can see it on Pewdiepie streams

That was a really roundabout way of saying that nothing has changed.

@nomadMik

4 жыл бұрын

Ever read a statute? They're not exactly to the point.

@axelpatrickb.pingol3228

4 жыл бұрын

The Supreme Court (or any court for that matter) would still write a decision about it whether they changed it or not...

@Yasha277

4 жыл бұрын

No, he outright said it. The other stuff he said was explaining it.

That's actually a really good supreme court decision. Letting the states do what they want about their own electors.

I love how Wyoming gets a Bison to ride on, lol

"Absolutely nothing has changed." That is damn near the official motto of the United States.

@axelpatrickb.pingol3228

4 жыл бұрын

It is the motto of nearly every country, most especially conservative ones...

@Fassle

4 жыл бұрын

conservatism in a nutshell

@mrroams5812

4 жыл бұрын

Isn't that literally every place in the world? Social change doesnt just happen overnight.

@TheSorrel

4 жыл бұрын

@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 Thats what you get from a system that is run almost exclusively by old people. Is it normal to hate old people for being old when you hit 30?

@axelpatrickb.pingol3228

4 жыл бұрын

@rudiger891 I was talking mostly about countries with very conservative cultures and governments... like monarchies...

"Never in enough numbers to change the president" I mean, that depends how you look at Colorado's role in the 1876 election

@dcbadger2

4 жыл бұрын

But that wasn't really faithless was it? It was the state legislature voting in absence of a general vote.

@Tytoalba777

4 жыл бұрын

1876 in general was a mess. I think two states had their votes nullified, a couple more were threatened, and the governor of Oregon tried to sneak a democrat into the college (would have been to flip it)

@jamesbond9975

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tytoalba777 It was in 1872 that two states had their votes nullified but the reason why the elector for Oregon was disqualified was because he was an elected official, who are barred by the US Consitution from becoming presidential electors.

The Supreme Court reaffirming a case from the 19th century is pretty interesting. I tend to think that in say, 1990, the court would have made faithless electors illegal, but the court is more small c conservative now. They aren’t in a mood for big changes to the interpretation of the law.

@David-jt9nt

2 жыл бұрын

ya this comment did not age well

@eyallevin6302

2 жыл бұрын

@@David-jt9nt you can say that again

I love how done the Supreme Court looks with the states' BS.

*Everyone:* 2020 couldn't POSSIBLY get worse *November:* _sweats nervously_

@deathbysleeping

4 жыл бұрын

2021: sweats nervously

@Zoten001

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it seems like no matter who wins come November, people are going to get stupid.

@sfp2290

4 жыл бұрын

At this point, I think no matter the outcome, everyone will lose. xD

@jamesklark6562

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not voting for the specific someone who wants to give up my tax money to non-citizens.

@ChangeUrAtOnYT.comSlashHandle

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesklark6562 Hey who dat "someone" be?

props to grey for not adding a flag-skirt for Mississippi while the new flag is being made lmao 3:42

@deco90014

4 жыл бұрын

I am not from USA,who is the mississippi? and who's the blond one?

@deathlightning55

4 жыл бұрын

I came here looking for someone to say something about the missing flag. The broken image link was such a nice touch.

@reyntime8735

4 жыл бұрын

Mississippi is two 2 column 5

A "nothing burger" as it might be, it is useful in common law systems to affirm or reject old rulings to figure out where things stand today. If the last time a very serious but very situational question was asked was a long time ago, it's useful to make sure what the rules actually are today.

He omits to say that it's actually a very important ruling for the NaPoVoInterCo. The compact would be much harder to implement if states can't “bind“ their electors.

So the supreme court just said "GET OUTTA MY COURTROOM I DID THIS LIKE A HUNDRED YEARS AGO"

Right when this court case was decided I was wondering about NaPoVoInterCo and if Grey would do a video on it

@macaroon_nuggets8008

4 жыл бұрын

He did.

@trackmaniaIIDX

4 жыл бұрын

@@macaroon_nuggets8008 oh thanks for telling me

@bbgun061

4 жыл бұрын

NaPoVoInterCo is a horrible idea and goes against the fact that the USA is a republic, not a democracy. Recent events should make the dangers of mob rule painfully obvious.

@darkpixel1128

4 жыл бұрын

@@bbgun061 you can be both at the same time. besides, what even the point of a vote if barely anyone choice actually matters. Alos, in modern times people want a democracy, who cares what some long dead people wanted it to be?

@dasbubba841

4 жыл бұрын

@@darkpixel1128 People desired segregation until the Federal Government abolished it. Your point is?

I can always rely on Grey to give me an easier pill to swallow when it domes to the news

I liked the HTML tags surrounding the side note. Clever. And I’m still a big fan of Wyoming buffalo.

3:38 Middle row, 5 across. Ah yes, the good ol' State of File Not Found (and Providence Plantations)

@massiminitrains

4 жыл бұрын

That's Mississippi since they currently don't have a flag because they just resolved to change their flag to remove the Confederate Flag from it.

@danrobrish3664

4 жыл бұрын

@@massiminitrains Thanks for the explanation. Can you explain why one state has blonde hair and wears a necktie? (I get that the one with the lei is Hawaii.)

@jeffbenton6183

4 жыл бұрын

@@danrobrish3664 Using the fact that these 32 states are in alphabetical order and then examining each of the flags, I deduce that the blonde state is Utah. The tie is probably a reference to the LDS. Don't know why she's blonde (and has slightly less curly hair) whereas the other states have black hair.

And not only does it not actively ban them, the ruling was just over whether states can punish faithless electors. The faithless votes still count regardless.

@lued123

2 жыл бұрын

8 states have laws that say the vote is nullified, but it's unclear whether they can actually do that.

November 2020: As a new US resident, this is sooo enlightening!! ❤ Thx so much CGP Grey 👏

@tiedeman39

3 жыл бұрын

Congrats!

Respectfully I must disagree with that closing statement that "absolutely nothing has changed." The ruling closed the door on those who hoped that the 32 states, who have made rules to ensure electors followed the will of the voters in their state, would have to rescind those rules/laws/governing guidance/statutes. I consider that a good thing.

@jamesguth5511

3 жыл бұрын

It’s more of the states can punish faithless electors. The elector still can be faithless in their official vote but the state can legally prosecute them .

@onekerri1

3 жыл бұрын

It seems one side wanted those rules gone, so as to be able to bribe them to be unfaithful. SHAMEFUL.

@aidanquiett668

3 жыл бұрын

@@onekerri1 The sad part of US politics is I cant tell which side that would actually be

@pauld6967

3 жыл бұрын

@@aidanquiett668 Greed, the lust for power and the ability to resist such temptations, to put the needs of others ahead of ones own person, taking responsibility for ones own actions and failures...these are all traits of being human. That is why it is important to judge every man and woman as individuals and not as a group. The governance of society is too serious, in my opinion, to be viewed like a sports competition where one roots for one team and boos the other. There a good Democrats who sincerely wish to have our country succeed and prosper, just as there are those whose only interest is personal wealth & power. The same is true of Republicans, Independents and politicians in general. It has always been thus and always will be. It is human nature. It is why we must pay attention and evaluate who we vote for each and every time. I could ramble on but I think I have made my viewpoint clear. 🙂

Need to cover the Supreme Court decision that just happened that basically says half of Oklahoma is Native American land and not in the jurisdiction of the state of Oklahoma, only federal jurisdiction above native jurisdiction

@rymdalkis

4 жыл бұрын

Cover it? It's been talked about all over the world. Even us here in Europe read about it. Isn't it pretty reasonable that the supreme court upholds a treaty that the US entered and has since never withdrawed from?

@p.bamygdala2139

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, please do take about this issue! Will it snowball into other states? I'm hoping Canada will take notice and follow suit!

@theevilkoala9250

4 жыл бұрын

rymdalkis I’m not saying it isn’t being talked about. I would just like to see grey cover it. He’s great at fact finding and generally presents things in a fair and balanced way.

@beishtkione24

4 жыл бұрын

@@rymdalkis no, it's actually not reasonable, because it will affect hundreds of thousands of Oklahoman Citizens that suddenly no longer live in their state. It also has the issue of all of those people now owning Nstive land, which wasn't previously allowed. They created what is going to be a shit show. Our Supreme Court has far too much power. They should be making the kinds of massive, society changing decisions that that they have been making.

@jamesbond9975

3 жыл бұрын

So yeah, looks like the Native Americans in Oklahoma are fans of Jeffery Epstein.

I mean it seems a bit sad that though around 13k people are watching, two of them are members and its seconds before it starts. So it seems mostly non-members come early. This makes me think that members-only chat shouldn't be on so that people who come 20 min early can talk about the subject. Also, even the TWO members who are here. The one who was here 10 min early ONLY commented to say HE DOESN'T want Premieres. The other just said nappavointerco, which while it is a comment, a lot of other people might be able to have better discussions about the video.

@samuelmatheson9655

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@samuelmatheson9655

4 жыл бұрын

The members are too busy working 6 figure jobs to come early

@mrayrick7631

4 жыл бұрын

Ye

@ctrl_x1770

4 жыл бұрын

In my region i cant be a member. Which sucks.

@DoubleUTimes2

4 жыл бұрын

Bit weird IMO that things should become free just because people aren't paying or that (in this case) paying people aren't active chatters. I'm assuming Grey is having it on Members-only as an incentive so people will support him.

*hol up* This came in my recommended 4 days after It came out What are you hiding from me youtube

@AC3handle

4 жыл бұрын

You're lucky they didnt' wait 2-3 months, or 2-3 YEARS.

@yeetri1034

4 жыл бұрын

@@AC3handle lol

@eifbkcn

4 жыл бұрын

WouLdn'T iT Be fUNnY if tHey HiD tHe cORPsE oF tHeiR CEO‽‽‽

@AC3handle

4 жыл бұрын

@@eifbkcn I think you posted to the wrong thread.

@yeetri1034

4 жыл бұрын

@@eifbkcn dude i think ur in the wrong place

Thanks for bringing this info to light, & thanks for uploading! See you next time!

3:39 There's one state with no flag since Mississippi removed its flag last month. Nice detail.

@jakobodell

4 жыл бұрын

I should have just scrolled down instead of trying to figure it out myself...

@JoJoModding

4 жыл бұрын

Also why does one have blonde hair and why is another one wearing flowers? And which states are it?

@Hawkeye3n

4 жыл бұрын

@@JoJoModding the one with a flower is Hawaii and the blonde one is Utah

@emmteemee

4 жыл бұрын

In addition to being blonde, Utah is also wearing a tie. 🙂

@spartaleonidas7132

4 жыл бұрын

I'm missing the missippi person. edit: Had to scroll down for the directions

The fact that we haven't had a podcast for over 4 months makes sense now that I see this video.

I love how I dont live in America or have any connections to it yet I still watch these videos because of the grey cool explanation.

"But for now, absolutely nothing has changed." Yeah, that sounds about right.

2:06 found a bee! i wonder were his friends are

@whoknows7968

4 жыл бұрын

Murder Hornets: Gone, reduced to atoms.

@snowy_owl

4 жыл бұрын

@@whoknows7968 The hardest choices require the strongest wills.

@whoknows7968

4 жыл бұрын

@@snowy_owl Hornet: I don't know whats hard about beheading bees, but I'm happy to make that decision.

2,000 people here, members only chat, and the only chat message is “please stop using premieres” Well this is just sad...

@joaovitormatos8147

4 жыл бұрын

That's the price you pay for member-only chat

@mac1st485

4 жыл бұрын

There is another

@natethegreat5968

4 жыл бұрын

I am broke

@BlindingLight

4 жыл бұрын

I remember the video where he was at that missile test site I used the chat twice. Twice. Slow mode is good enough.

@frindjinny6

4 жыл бұрын

This is what happens when you put up members only chat on a less than interesting video

In the Federal Republic of Germany this way is more common at Presidential Elections than in the US ones! The Federal Assembly (= Bundesversammlung) has from 840 to 1 338 members. The Federal Diet (= Deutscher Bundestag) sends all its members. Its uses a St. Lague (= Webster) System with is favoring the parties with fewer votes. The State Diets (= Landtage) send in total a equivalent number of delegates, choosen by each State Diet seperately. They use a d`Hondt system for this election, which is favoring the parties with more votes. The FRGs Presidential Election is usually held in the Imperial Diet Buidlung (= Reichstagsgebäude) in Berlin [/West]. The voting is taken secretly. The voting contains from 1; 2 or 3 rounds. The absolute majority of all members is needed. abstaining from voting: 76 to 187 invalid votes: 1 to 14 votes for candidates nominated by a different party: not exactly known! This time there are 2 Federal Diet Elections between 2 Federal President elections. currents estimation, based on voting results CDU 397; SPD 330; GRÜ 174; AfD 166; FDP 135; CSU 93; FW 17; without caucus 7; BVB 1; SSW 1

Love the details with Hawaii and Utah, don’t get me started on [image not found]

I still intensely crave a "Top Sneaky" rubber stamp.

@haidenlotze7530

4 жыл бұрын

You can print one with TPU filament on a FDM 3D Printer

@haidenlotze7530

4 жыл бұрын

(may lowkey go sketch one up in FreeCAD or OnShape )

I'd be interested to hear Grey's thoughts on the recent SC decision regarding Oklahoma...

@rogen8094

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I'm not sure exactly what it means tbh. I'm no legal expert, and the News is thoroughly unhelpful. Grey is a straight shooter.

@connorschultz380

4 жыл бұрын

What happened?

@rogen8094

4 жыл бұрын

@@connorschultz380 Basically, the SCOTUS ruled that about half of the state of Oklahoma actually belongs to the American Indian tribes and NOT the state of Oklahoma. It had to do with some murder inside an Indian Reservation. But, the tricky thing is that they seemed to assert that the Federal gov't supersedes the Indian Nation(s). So, the murderer must be tried in federal court, not state court. Something like that. It's kinda confusing, so Grey should absolutely make a video about it.

@katlicks

4 жыл бұрын

@@rogen8094 it was a serial child rapist that started the case.

@evelioguaperas

4 жыл бұрын

@@rogen8094 From what I know they gave jurisdiction over half of Oklahoma to the indian tribes but the land is still owned by the state. Meaning the state won't be able to prosecute crimes in that area commited by natives, still crazy if you ask me.

I took Civics in school, this is not what I was taught about the US electoral system. p-(-.- ) I was taught Electors are to vote according to what the states populations wants, not the Electors political party. Now that beings said they are often one and the same, but there is a distinction.

@404Dannyboy

4 жыл бұрын

Both understandings are slightly wrong. Think of the electors like senators. They are voted in to represent their state but may cast their ballot how they see fit. Many states have rules regarding what the electors are allowed to vote, but these are all individual to the states.

@edgardaspilcueta738

4 жыл бұрын

Why do we even still have electoral college after all. Can we just get rid of electoral college??

@supermanXL

4 жыл бұрын

@@edgardaspilcueta738 the ruling class thought regular people were too dumb to make decision like picking the US emperor so they set this thing up. People have more control on local and state elections than they do over who becomes president.

@mr.l8527

4 жыл бұрын

@@supermanXLThe "ruling class" didn't think that the average voter was too dumb. They designed the government and how it works/officials are elected via an educated view on history. If you hand all of the keys to the majority, they're voices will be a tyranny to the minority. If you hand all of the keys to the minority, they're voices will be a tyranny to the majority. Pure Democracy has NEVER ended well. Pure Oligarchy doesn't either. The system was designed as a sort of in-between to (mostly) protect and empower both the majority and minority. Also, the government was designed to INTENTIONALLY be (mostly) dysfunctional. That's why it's segmented as it is and why there's so many checks and balances. This was done with the intention of limiting it's ability to exert control over the states and the citizenry. Big government never ends well either. It either collapses under it's own weight or it becomes tyrannical ... or both. It's actually pretty ingenious how it was all designed. Just functional enough to do what it needs to do but dysfunctional enough to limit it's growth and power. Fun Fact: The founders of the nation constantly argued over the role of government and considered it a "necessary evil". However they all agreed that the citizenry remain autonomous.

@giin97

4 жыл бұрын

@@supermanXL that's because it's the states that elect the president, not the people. It's the United States, not the United People. The national November opinion poll is just the widely agreed upon method. People forget we're a union of states, not one cohesive nation.

what did change is we have states being public that they dont have to even obey their populous and making the college even stupider

Thank you for clarifying this! Whenever I heard the decision I was super confused on what it actually meant and I was getting vastly different interpretations of the Supreme Court’s interpretation.

4 minutes to learn that nothing has changed, and yet I still loved it

How I understood the ruling, the states can't actually directly compel elector votes, they can just punish them if they don't vote the way they were pledged to do so, or replace them if they indicate in advance they're intending to change their vote. If the electors vote faithlessly when they actually get to the relevant vote, that vote would still stand (the elector could just be in an awful lot of trouble)

Long distance communication was not a factor mentioned in the Federalist Papers or the Constitutional Convention debates. As far as I can tell, this is a modern imagining of why early Americans *might* have created such a system.

Grey, where the frig is Reservations Part 1? It's been 7 months

@Veylon

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously. Reservations are even topical right now.

@micahrobinson93

4 жыл бұрын

@@Veylon exactly why there is no video

@Ratchet4647

4 жыл бұрын

@@micahrobinson93 You're right whenever something new happens with that whole section must be added, rewritten, or scrapped.

"Let me guess, nothing actually changed." Yep. Called it.

I love this background music. I wish I could find an instrumental version to listen to

"Top sneaky"... Thank you for this.

Since we’re all too poor to buy members we can just chat by sorting new Oh yeah, this is big brain time

@Atitkos

4 жыл бұрын

This may not be new as its 6 minutes old but you will be high as you get my like.

I love the conclusion: But for now absolutely nothing has changed

"For now, absolutely nothing has changed" might as well be the epitaph on the American tombstone.

Lol one time I walked into my cousin doing homework his homework was to write an essay about your voting videos

@happyfacefries

3 жыл бұрын

I want that assignment

Thank you for this! Definitely the best explanation in a non-legal-focused report of what SCOTUS actually ruled. I'm a non-lawyer SCOTUSBLOG follower and while their articles are very approachable for reporting mainly for other lawyers, they have a smaller reach than you do.

Guys forget about The Democrat, Republican, and Green Party Let’s start the Grey Party

youtube is slackin' on the notifications again. love to see that 2020 has at least brought one good thing: some extra CGP Grey

Quick I love how CGP puts the sidenotes in HTML formatting