"He's not an alien. He's not a god. He's just a dude from Kansas doing the right thing." Couldn't have said it better myself.

@whodatninja439

8 жыл бұрын

Too bad Zack Snyder didn't get the memo!

@davidw.2791

8 жыл бұрын

+Who Dat Ninja Try doing the right thing, and overwhelmingly the world doubts you or even plots to kill you, and the parents and SO who believe in you can't even tell other people.

@motor4X4kombat

8 жыл бұрын

+David W. even with all that shit, he need to have some level of carisma, he dosen't need to be serious all the fucking time like... for a lack of a better word... batman. and thats why they fail, because they both have to be polar opositives, and they are the same character in the movies, so there isn't any rivaliry or dualism, between the two

@MarquosXoloVanda

8 жыл бұрын

He quoted Snyder's BvS line, how ironic.

@motor4X4kombat

8 жыл бұрын

Marq Vince what line?

So you're telling me that the 40s Superman cartoon introduced Superman's flight, allowed cartoons to be used for more than comedy, invented rotoscoping, and provided an inspiration for Godzilla? These seem like the most important cartoons ever made.

@jerriustate9638

6 жыл бұрын

kaiju_kun64 The 40s Superman cartoons were the shit.

@vermis8344

6 жыл бұрын

Snow White was animation for more than comedy, in 1937. Even then, Disney was putting drama into shorts, like Flowers and Trees. And every source I've read indicated that Godzilla was inspired by american monster movies like The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms. So much so that Godzilla was going to be stop motion, until budget constraints forced the man-in-a-suit effects. I'm not entirely sure what Kristian's source is, but I want to smoke some of it.

@42ndblaze43

5 жыл бұрын

Warren JB in an interview the guy directing Godzilla stated that when designing the character itself he came across the Superman cartoons.

@dannyspelman1468

5 жыл бұрын

Rotoscoping was not invented by Fleischer for Superman. It was invented in 1919 by Fleischer for Koko The Klown.

@DylanJo123

5 жыл бұрын

@@42ndblaze43 Link?

"This is a job for Superman" Clark would be perfectly happy living as "Clark". He loves his life, the people around him, & the world. Unlike Batman, he doesn't need to be Superman - it's simply that the world sometimes needs him to be. And Clark accepts that responsibility - that singular, circumstantial duty - because he loves his adopted home. Superman is the one superhero who acts solely out of love. And it's been 40 years since WB understood that.

@andyknightwarden9746

4 жыл бұрын

Eh, I would say the Superman Animated series understood that. Justice League, too.

@adonis7626

3 жыл бұрын

HPMcQueen I would say that the TimmVerse version understands that... Maybe because The DCAU understands every single DC characters... Perfectly.

The Fleishers actually didn't want to do the cartoons, because they knew they'd be very difficult and costly to do them correctly. So they deliberately asked for an outrageous amount of money. And they were told "Here you go, all the money you asked for!"

@michaelcarter9395

4 жыл бұрын

Worth It!

@krisfleischer7467

4 жыл бұрын

It’s called having talents and Capitalism

@Jester_Jingles

4 жыл бұрын

Dreamstate aim high hit low. Aim real fucking high and the low is still pretty high apparently.

@11jcarter

3 жыл бұрын

That’s the way it should be. Don’t half ass a story or animation. This is how you are remembered forever.

@amuroray9115

3 жыл бұрын

@@11jcarter it’s hard as fuck for a lot of people to get the amount of resources necessary to carry out their vision like the Fleischers

Whoa. That 1940s animation is gorgeous.

@22blue26

8 жыл бұрын

Its better than some animation in present day. I would love to see tht 1940s animation type, but high res. It would be amazing.

@andrewdenneno653

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's better then some animation today.

@sanjayraju988

8 жыл бұрын

Can we buy it?

@sanjayraju988

7 жыл бұрын

+Versace pancakes Thank you so much!

@djgeebill4352

7 жыл бұрын

Ross T it looks so fluid and clean

That 40's animation blew my mind.

@CreationSink99

8 жыл бұрын

Honesty. That looks a hell of a lot better than today's cartoons and shit.

@maxthemanatee_6492

8 жыл бұрын

+Carlton Banks The Batman series where Mark Hamil voices The Joker is pretty solid in many of the same ways he points out in this video.

@OrionCallisto

8 жыл бұрын

Which is impressive in its when right when you consider where cartoons were at in the 90's budgetarily and qualitatively. Batman the Animated Series offered roughly 25 minute episodes with consistent animation, atmospheric lighting and shading hardly seen in cartoons since Hannah-Barbera dumbed things down to Fisher Price levels all accompanied by strong, intelligent scripts that treated its audience with respect. BtAS is essentially the spiritual successor to Fleischer's Superman. And it innovated in the opposite direction: Though it did not invent new animation techniques, it informed the standard of writing and character development in western animated shows all the way up until now, where arguably cartoons are at an all time high in terms of sophistication and theme. Seriously, DC's line-up of cartoons has done so much to influence and advance the medium of animation it is mindblowing.

@maxthemanatee_6492

8 жыл бұрын

+Kire-Kitsune Maybe they should just call it quits with the live action shit and start putting the animated stuff in theaters.

@OrionCallisto

8 жыл бұрын

If the talent behind the Justice league cartoon from the 2000's were involved at all times, I'd say go for it. lol It would blow away the competition. Seriously, catch a few episodes of Justice League. It stands up against most shows geared toward adults with ease. (it's probably a bit more mature, too. lol)

"he's just a dude from Kansas doing the right thing." a better understanding of the character than most directors have had. not just Snyder. like almost ever incarnation of him is always just centered around Lois Lane, as his one attachment to earth, Superman cares about more than just one woman, Superman loves earth because it's home to him. he enjoys everything from the things he can see because he's got all these powers and the ability to go places others can't, to the very simple things everyone's seen a hundred times. His parents, the Kents, raised him so that he'd appreciate and value those things, because they keep Clark grounded and with his mind in reality. they help make him a good person.

@ramlamunye5900

5 жыл бұрын

Ever watched smallville

@jonathangoode546

5 жыл бұрын

Well said Carl very well said .

@tomo4977

5 жыл бұрын

plus you've got this constant god- effect they keep piling up on him like its the only thing they can think to add stakes or conflict to his character. What does Superman in that universe ever think about this, because I would think he would highly disagree like Kristian said "he's just a dude from Kansas doing the right thing" but constantly they ignore that and focus on his raw power, sci-fi exposition and some "we live in a society" bs and then you've got a bunch of themes but they're being focused through a one- dimensional, carboard character that nobody can really relate to.

@TheFlash-je3bl

5 жыл бұрын

@@ramlamunye5900 somebody save me!!!!

@En_theo

5 жыл бұрын

It's mostly due to the fact that people mix up the messiah figure for the savior figure. Superman is not the messiah type, he's the savior type. He does not tell anyone he's sent by God nor that he will punish them if they don't adore him.

These cartoons are still incredible. Even CG couldn't make those robots coming to life in that line look more amazing. To be fair to 66Superman's cartoon, the 40s theatrical shorts had an INSANE record-breaking budget because of how much faith the studio had in the property. I'd honestly tell anyone who asks that these shorts put Disney's feature films from the same era to shame, animation-wise... Fleischer was a genius, & deserves as much credit to Superman as Seigel & Schuster, IMO.

@Protokjax

6 жыл бұрын

I agree the animations were groundbreaking I just don't think CG doesn't have the capability of producing subtlety. In time, in time..

@jsavak99

4 жыл бұрын

That's bc ppl don't get jobs based on talent anymore . it's who you know etc

@matheus5230

3 жыл бұрын

Disney's early 40s animation was stunning too. Take a look at Pinocchio, Fantasia and Bambi

@ptronic

2 жыл бұрын

@@jsavak99 how many boxes you tick

@CarloNassar

Жыл бұрын

I nearly agree, except for the bit about CG not making robots look amazing. I'd say there's some really good VFX that exists.

"Somewhere in our darkest night, we made up the story of a man who will never let us down." - Grant Morrison.

This wasn't just a brilliantly articulated and artfully executed documentary, it proved to be a moving and emotional tribute. Standing ovation from me for this video.

Holy shit! That animation looked like it's alive. I never saw that kind of work. Genius.

@nicktroisi6347

3 жыл бұрын

I know right compared to some of the material that has come out today. Honestly how dose something from 80 years ago look better than some of the shit that comes out today in modern cinema and tv it just baffles my mind

I love how this version of Superman shows that it takes him effort to do things. Yeah, he can lift unlimited weight, but it seems to be solely through willpower. It definitely takes a toll on him.

@mariebourgot4949

2 жыл бұрын

"solely"? Hum...

For the forties that was some fucking smooth animation

@ricardocantoral7672

7 жыл бұрын

Excuse me ? That was the great age of animation in Hollywood.

@ricardocantoral7672

7 жыл бұрын

Robo9400 I would say the 1920's until the mid 50's.

@RexOedipus.

7 жыл бұрын

JAKphoenixify That's Max Fleischer for you

@ricardocantoral7672

7 жыл бұрын

POPEYE was the genesis of action cartoons.

@givant

6 жыл бұрын

That shit looks better than the animation in DBS

I love this.

@kaptainkristian

8 жыл бұрын

+Nerdwriter1 You have no idea how happy this made me

@doctorjana

8 жыл бұрын

+kaptainkristian Nerdwriter loved your video... Time to get famous!

@dominokos

8 жыл бұрын

+kaptainkristian You got this

@AhmadRiyal

6 жыл бұрын

i love your comment

@MatiasHettichCastillo

6 жыл бұрын

What a crossover this is :0 !!!

You are wrong on one point: this being made for children. Animation in general was not really meant for children in this era, but was shown before theatrical films, something that would have been seen by more adults than kids at that point in time. Only when TV was introduced and became massively popular did animation get the reputation of being "just for kids" (even though it arguably still isn't) due to its easy accessibility for everyone, including children.

@alfa01spotivo

5 жыл бұрын

Lukas Sprehn Yeah basically the 20s to 50s were a time when cartoons were mainly for adults being shown in theatres before feature films considering how violent the of tom and Jerry was and the Looney Tunes, Mad Doctor (Mickey mouse) and such. I believe it was the Flintstones released in the 60s that gave the distinction that cartoons were for kids.

@RayPointerChannel

3 жыл бұрын

@@alfa01spotivo Ah no, again. Originally, THE FLINTSTONES was supposed to be an animated sitcom aimed at an adult audience. You will notice that the first two seasons had stories that were more centered on domestic conflicts, and the sponsors were adult products such as Winstons cigarettes and Miles Laboratories.

@Janzer_

3 жыл бұрын

needs more research in general. this is made in the popular "dramatic essay" format that seems popular on youtube. but only some of the information is present, and the reading is too low in tone to be valuable. stop trying to be dramatic dude that made this, and get your message across. also source your material, and do broader research. i give it a C for effort.

@Luka1180

3 жыл бұрын

I also wanna stress that Family Friendly, which Walt always asked for his own company’s shorts to be, doesn’t translate directly to “Made for children” or even “with children in mind.” It’s more that he wanted them to be timely, inoffensive and universal.

2:32 ok...I knew I wasn't tripping. Whenever I would see clips or glimpses of these old Superman cartoons, i always thought they looked way better than the majority of animated superhero material released today. The art style and the way the animation moves is just beautiful. The way Superman is portrayed here was also a favorite of mine as well.

Sad that this animation looks so much better than The Killing Joke

@cynicism90

8 жыл бұрын

Ummmm no

@DragonOfTheWest100

8 жыл бұрын

+Cool Cat ummm yes way better the killing joke animation is lazy

@ResistReact

8 жыл бұрын

yeah i was all for defending it and saying it's not THAT bad... but after seeing this and how good this animation is from so long ago... there's really no excuse for the animation in killing joke

@Ahturos

8 жыл бұрын

Yes there is. Money. Direct to DVD movies won´t make near enough money to get that amount of work on them. They are outsourced and done in a short amount of time. The Superman cartoons were like half a movie budget and was done at the right time before and during WW2. People went and saw them in theatre over and over again with kids and families. A direct to DVD movie is lucky to get even and some people watching it. 1 day in cinema or maybe two if I heard right. But if you whould compare the animation in Killing Joke to another DC direct to DVD movie then you have a point.

@someoneelse9680

7 жыл бұрын

ResistReact yup still hurts to know how bad that movie was when there was such great animation over 50 years ago and considering the magnitude of that book but the poor adaptation in almost every way that it was handled .

"he's just a dude from Kansas doing the right thing" That's exactly who Superman is, not some Jesus figure like in the newest films.

@blackdeadtree1

8 жыл бұрын

+OverTGW you don't know? doing the christ on the cross pose is required every 5 minutes. failure to comply results in internment at one of the many SYMBOLISM camps.

@reed627

8 жыл бұрын

Well Jesus was just a guy from Nazareth trying to do the right thing. The point of the christ comparisons in the Snyder films, especially in Batman v Superman, is to portray Superman as a god ironically. The humans of the world projected that god-like image onto him while Clark was still just a regular guy. In BvS there's a montage of Superman being superman in scenes that are almost straight out of renaissance paintings, and then it immediately cuts to Clark in a sweatshirt in his apartment. And also, Superman has always been a religious metaphor, don't act like this is a new thing. Superman is just a big smorgasbord of Moses, Jesus, and Heracles.

8 жыл бұрын

+Victor Knievel in Donner's he literally did nothing until visited Fortress of Solitude, in MoS he saved bus and then Johnathan Kent said him to hide his powers until he will be truly ready because people will be scared of him (which he actually said the same in Superman #1 (1939) ). If anyone does understand Superman it is Snyder and Goyer. And god's theme always was in Superman's core as well as Christ-imagery (All-star Superman, Supergods, Superman for tomorrow etc.) Moses theme was originally implied by Siegel.

@Ahturos

8 жыл бұрын

I think people in the Superman world can speculate and be afraid of Superman but Superman himself should really look at himself and say he is just a Kansas boy. He even says that in MOS after crashing the satelite so I don´t get why they had him be dopey in B v S.

@Ahturos

8 жыл бұрын

Stef Tep We was pretty sad trough out the whole BvS movie. Or neutral rather. But he did try to smile but most of them was during his bathtub scene with Lois. Then when he thought of sacraficing himself against Doomsday which I thought fitted. But a faint smile once that barely was visible like the one you mentioned ain´t enough if we want to say that this Superman acted like a hopeful Superman. I have nothing against him getting a bad recive from people. But he dose´t even try to be chearful. But I guess that´s hard when Zack killed one of Superman´s best friends in the begining of the movie.

Five years on, this is still one of my favorite videos on the Internet.

that last part hit me hard "hes just a dude from Kansas doing the right thing" that why i read the comics cuz in all his movie adaptations they always portray him as the alien god whos only connection with earth is through Lois Lane. that not interesting to watch or relatiable he was raised by humans and grew up in America. He dosnt see himself as an alien hes pretty patriotic for his country but most of all hes just an average joe who wants to help ppl in need.

@michaelcarter9395

4 жыл бұрын

I have this comic that came free with cornflakes back in the seventies. A black kid wanted to play Justice League with his friends, (but couldn't, because he was black). Superman overhears the kids arguing and explains his origin, and reveals that he's not even human. I loved that book when I was a kid...

@silverdays2909

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelcarter9395 remember what Superman says thats unAmerican talk

@thenoirknight5729

2 жыл бұрын

*Superman:* "I grew up in Kansas, General. I'm about as American as it gets."

"Just a dude from Kansas doing the right thing". Gosh that just sums up the character. Why do so many people miss this basic point by trying to overcomplicate the character with weird fish out of water stories?

@dalebrush5366

7 жыл бұрын

And why is the DCEU afraid of this, while the MCU embraces this aspect of Captain America and people love it? RED SKULL: So, what made you so special? STEVE: Nothing. I'm just a kid from Brooklyn.

@Aldrius

7 жыл бұрын

I think there's a bit more of a perception that Superman is kind of a jerk. Partly just because he's SO powerful. (While Captain America -- while above average, is a bit more of an every man.) Superman: Animated Series hit such a nice balance with the character, though. But ultimately he was still a 'guy from Kansas trying to do the right thing'.

@KrayFashion

7 жыл бұрын

+Walter Kovacs Edited: With a lot of juice rushing through my veins. 😂

@MarquosXoloVanda

7 жыл бұрын

+Walter Kovacs didn't you catch the line in BvS? "Maybe he's just a guy trying to do the right thing"

@dalebrush5366

7 жыл бұрын

Marq Vince I did catch that, but just because it's said in a news interview doesn't mean it's what the character is. He seems to be a guy trying to threaten and bully Batman into quitting. That's what drives him. "Or be none of it. You don't owe this world a thing." (To be fair, Batman is an awful person in this universe. But Superman should still be saving and protecting people, not concerning himself with politics and PR.)

This made me tear up. Really, not only by explaining what makes Superman great, but to finally find someone else who *gets* Superman, and not only knows, but *appreciates* the Max Fleischer cartoons. If I could, I'd easily give this video a million likes. :)

@kelilingmana3679

6 жыл бұрын

Everdark Entertainment respect! Superb!

This holds up so freaking well. It also inspired batman the animated series so that's a plus.

These superman cartoons from the 40's were ahead of their time by years, and are so damn good that when you compare them to other cartoons that have come since then, they do more than hold their own, especially with how beautifully animated they are as well as the art style that is used. They are literally animated paintings, and they are works of art that have stood the test of time.

This is the 5th time I've watched this. Absolutely fantastic!!

@kaptainkristian

8 жыл бұрын

+ScottyMiLad Thanks! I appreciate every view

@wundarboy1

8 жыл бұрын

+kaptainkristian awesome work on both video's . Keep it up man!! Good Luck

@Kwad_rat

8 жыл бұрын

I watched it two times so far and I think I'll go back to this vidoes when the next comes out.

@natefan8700

7 жыл бұрын

PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON STUDIO GHIBLI !!!!!!!! PLEASEE !!

@jamilcharles9159

7 жыл бұрын

yes!

Max Fleisher is the most underrated God animator of all time! Everyone needs to watch these cartooons.

@bluewulv

6 жыл бұрын

Vintage Fan I wonder if the NC will do a tribute or review of his works.

@alineharam

4 жыл бұрын

Vintage Fan I completely agree. He invented rotoscope. Ex machina used rotoscope

@JiM-SWEET-art

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. Look at how the truck lifts up as it bounces on it's shocks at 6:50.

@krisfleischer7467

4 жыл бұрын

I am grateful to have grown up watching his work!They were a very successful family

@amuroray9115

3 жыл бұрын

I already did

Origin stories aren't boring, they suck only if you already know everything about it and have seen it multiple times

@jhernandez2

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@Gadget-Walkmen

3 жыл бұрын

@@DuckoftheDraw can’t agree. It all depends on how it’s done. Ultimate Spider-Man goes on for a long while but it’s fantastic

@Gadget-Walkmen

3 жыл бұрын

@@DuckoftheDraw I’m talking about the comic ultimate Spider-Man, not that crappy tv show full of bad jokes.

@aryan7767

3 жыл бұрын

@@DuckoftheDraw I think he’s referring to the excellent comic series, not the substandard ultimate Spider-Man show

It's worth pointing out that the reason this animation looks so great is that they asked for a ridiculous amount ot animate it, never expecting to get the go ahead. I believe at the time this was the most expensive, per minute, animation ever produced, and it shows.

The quality of your videos is seriously next level.

@ryanstaudacher7469

8 жыл бұрын

agreed

@smooooth_

8 жыл бұрын

And its not like he gradually got to this level. He entered the ring cooking up fire

@regifall

7 жыл бұрын

Is this his first video of this channel?

@megatronsroyalemissary382

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

40s were among the best years in animation. So glad the game Cuphead is being made with the techniques and aesthetic of this golden age.

@anarchimation1448

5 жыл бұрын

Cuphead is actually based more on the 30s era than the 40s...

The animation developed by Max Fleischer from the 1940's for Superman was incredibly superb.

I couldn't agree more, these Fleischer cartoons set a beautiful, visual standard and I honestly can't imagine a more perfect marriage of visuals to an essay. You've set the bar higher, Kaptain. Thank you!

holy shit, that animation is amazing

Im glad some people still see Superman for who he truly is. It hurts me when I hear from people that Superman is boring or that he is an old washed-up superhero. Now I can direct them to your videos. Same goes for your Godzilla video. Thanks for all the hard work man, we really appreciate it.

This was the first cartoon I ever watched. Never forgot that black logo. The animation was beautiful and it was almost like seeing it come to life. After all these years I will remember it clearly

My dad bought me the VHS tape of the Fleisher shorts when I was very young and they had the biggest impact on me and really got me into Superman. I watched that tape so many times and I still babysit to this day. He animation just looks so good even today and I still watch them here on KZread.

Having god-like powers without being corrupt is what made Superman so super.

@Death_Korps_Officer

5 жыл бұрын

No, what made Superman super was he was his heart of steel.

Honestly, that's my main argument when I talk about why Superman is such a cool character. I hear all around me that Superman is uninteresting because he's too powerful. But I don't see him that way, because unlike Batman, in which Bruce Wayne is the real mask, Superman and Clark Kent are the same two people, because he is in fact just a guy from Kansas who wants to help people. The best stories of Superman aren't when Superman is a god, or when he defeats another threat to the world, but when he's being Clark Kent and being the model of mankind. When he talks to someone considering jumping off a building, reassuring to him or her that there's always tomorrow. Or when he spoke to Billy Batson when he was still struggling with his powers of being Shazam, telling him that he could in fact be a great hero. Unlike Batman, who's cool because Batman is an awesome superhero with amazing villains, Superman is cool because Clark Kent is cool. Because Clark Kent, a young farm boy from Kansas, just wants to do the right thing.

@TheAlamla

7 жыл бұрын

Neo-Mad Dog Easy for him to say there is a tomorrow when he is an immortal inivicible being.

@UnseenBubby

7 жыл бұрын

TheAlamla That's the point of Superman. He models the peak of a hman being. Sure a human can't fly or punch a building to the ground. But he's the peak of morality. He's strong, yet gentle. Invincible, but vulnerable. He's the man you can talk to about anything, who will stand up for anyone. We should all want to be Superman.

@joewaltz2709

6 жыл бұрын

Neo-Mad Dog right? Doesn’t have to save the world, just the day. He’s the neighbor we all want. The man little boys want to be.

@jonathanstarsmoure5791

5 жыл бұрын

Neo he doesn't model the peak human being. He models what we want to be. An inspiration. This time they just made him come from human origins.

@ramlamunye5900

5 жыл бұрын

I was so mad at him in injustice

I've never been much of a comic/superhero fan, but I picked up a collection of these cartoons from Walmart for a couple bucks when I was a kid. I really enjoyed it, but over time, mostly forgot about it until recently. That animation is so fluid and ahead of its time. Still in awe!

I guess I am weird I love origin stories ._.

@akshatmishra8991

6 жыл бұрын

Progressive House Worldwide Then count me as a weirdo too. I frickin love origin stories ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@ProgHouseWorldwide

6 жыл бұрын

*intense nodding*

@NoedigJK471

6 жыл бұрын

I don't like how origin stories are told; I'd prefer to know the origin story first rather than know in the middle of a story, because going forth, back, then forth disorients the focus of a story. The way most media implement an origin story is not subtle, rather, it's in your face like you NEED to know. Look at J.R.R Tolkien's books, his stories' contexts stay relevant and chronologically straight. There are some sorts of origin stories in there, but they're told in such a way that makes it sound like folk lore, not requiring the reader to look into it unless they are choose to-- out of curiosity.

@Scarletraven87

5 жыл бұрын

They are fundamental, but when done wrong fail terribly

@thatonedeer2theelectricboo787

5 жыл бұрын

Same

This 7 minute and 34 second video is better than the entirety of Batman V Superman.

@wyatteggers8312

8 жыл бұрын

nahh

@TheCreatinator

8 жыл бұрын

+Mark Meason What are you talkinga about!? That piece of garbage doesnt have the value a few *seconds* of this cartoon does!

@sonnywoods6846

8 жыл бұрын

+Mark Meason agreed

@markmeason1244

8 жыл бұрын

+Swoop Snatch much worse than I thought. Save your money and watch it on home video. It would have been so much better if it was just a solo Batman movie but they tried to fit so much into the film it became a real incomprehensible mess.

@markmeason1244

8 жыл бұрын

+Swoop Snatch yes definitely save your cash

I personally love origin stories. I always found the first act of a supehero movie more compelling than the conclusion. Which is why Unbreakable stands out so much.

@tomstonemale

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah but that movie was made to be a self contain story. Most superheroe movies give for granted they are going to have a sequel and they make terrible decisions with the narrative because of that. The Matrix trilogy is the best example of that. excuse my english

Nolan's "Batman Begins" is an origin story and its not boring

@varanid9

6 жыл бұрын

That's because it tells an original story. Yes, we know why Batman became who he is, but, in Batman Begins, we really don't know what's going to happen and, also, the whole movie is an origin story. In Man of Steel, it is just a long, dragged out intro that adds nothing and has no bearing on the later movie, just an excuse to feature Russell Crowe and show a lot of FX.

@NelsonStJames

6 жыл бұрын

There is always an exception to every rule, but generally what he said was correct. Most origin stories are completely unnecessary, and pretty much every movie franchise today believes it has to start with an origin story of some type.

@TexTheBest

6 жыл бұрын

Dave Teves Wonder Woman is not boring, the first spider-man is not boring, first avenger is not boring, iron man is DEFINITELY not boring.

@judithmendez4394

6 жыл бұрын

that shit is overrated batman sounds like a drunk dog trying to speak

@GreaserMan

6 жыл бұрын

Yes it absolutely is. All 3 of Nolan's movies are boring.

The older cartoons have always been my favorite, because the are so fluid with their movement. Also they have a realistic look to them. Great video!

You nailed every reason why I love superman

I actually love origin stories.

@sobversion3

8 жыл бұрын

I believe more do than don't; its just about how they're done and this guy's gripe seems to be that of time consumption on how one became who they currently are

@huey_kind611

8 жыл бұрын

what about Wolverine Origins, that movie was straight garbage

@maasirjaved6788

8 жыл бұрын

Chaasad Bailey what are you implying?

@Liberator130

7 жыл бұрын

True. But that story may have been great with a good script. Wolverine and Sabretooth as young men bonding through brotherhood and warfare because their own families' selfishness and ego destroyed themselves would make for a FASCINATING look at the characters. If I had my chance, I'd make a comic that examined that Sabretooth really just wants Wolverine to understand that, like him, they're both immortal creatures whose only respect belongs to others like them whereas everyone else (humans, mutants, and everyone in between) are unworthy since they don't have the understanding of seeing everything through the lens of seeing through history. It's why I LOVED The Wolverine film so much (especially that unrated extended cut) because it focused so much on the character of Wolverine.

@huey_kind611

7 жыл бұрын

CH Gorog​ wow you have... Shit taste

Outstanding examination of the 1941 Superman Max Fleischer animation. Excellent. Possibly the greatest animation ever penned and inked. Simply outstanding.

Fascinating. I actually think that there are lots of aspects to Superman's origin that make him more interesting. His discovery that he is adopted, his quest to know about his original parents, his helplessness in the face of his Father's death-as you say, he is not a god. But your discussion about Fleischer's work and the examples that you choose are excellent. En Mass I find the cartoons repetitive, but the lighting effects, the capturing of human movement and the care that went into them is always a revelation

"Superman doesn't need to be complex, it's the stories around him that should be" "he's not an alien, he's not a god, he's just a dude from Kansas doing the right thing" Can you do me a huge favor and take over for writing Superman at DC Entertainment?

@neosoontoretro

8 жыл бұрын

+EpicBeard815 I disagree with the part that Superman doesn't need to be complex. Again there is difference between keeping Superman simple and having him be simplistic. Keeping it simple doesn't mean disregarding complexity but making complex ideas simple to understand.

@EpicBeard815

8 жыл бұрын

neosoontoretro I think by "simple" the implication is pure. His motivations should be pure, his outward character should be pure. The situations he gets in may provoke some complex emotions and thoughts, but he should always return to that state of absolute good. That's what I think, any way.

@neosoontoretro

8 жыл бұрын

EpicBeard815 I don't know about absolute good, because when you take it that far it makes Superman hard to identity with. Maybe objectively good is a better way to look at it. You want Superman to be something to aspire to but you also want him to be someone you can relate to as well.

@EpicBeard815

8 жыл бұрын

neosoontoretro That's fair. I think a lot of superheroes are more "relatable" because they're fantasies of having no responsibilities weighing them down (basically Batman written poorly), whereas Superman is a character who takes his responsibilities in stride. As I get older, I find that sort of inner strength and discerning morality more and more relatable and worth striving towards. I think that falls under "just a dude from Kansas doing the right thing"

@neosoontoretro

8 жыл бұрын

EpicBeard815 "That's fair. I think a lot of superheroes are more "relatable" because they're fantasies of having no responsibilities weighing them down (basically Batman written poorly), " Actually, for me it's the exact opposite, characters like Batman are weigh down by their responsibilities not the lack thereof. "whereas Superman is a character who takes his responsibilities in stride." Well, to be fair it's easy when you're almost invincible and not mere mortal like Batman.

"He's not an alien, he's not a god, he's just a dude from Kansas doing the right thing" Fucking perfect

I'm impressed. Ya hit the nail on the head kid. I thought all young folks would never appreciate what I grew up with. I was wrong

@silverdays2909

4 жыл бұрын

You are wrong old man we will rise

I loved watching these as a kid. They really were one of the best interpretations of the character ever made.

The greatest super power Superman has is his ability to NOT let his super power corrupt him. He could easily rule as a king, if not a god. But he chooses to be a mild manner reported. He has no ulterior motives or plans to become rich and wealthy, he's just a good guy trying to do what's right. It is a shame that being a good guy is not edgy or brooding. Superman was never out to win a popularity contest, he does not need to. What they are doing to him nowadays is just sad.

Holy fuck. I would NEVER have believed that these clips came from the 1940's. I don't think I've ever seen character animation on a television show this fluid. I need to watch every episode.

@gdf40

8 жыл бұрын

well they put half a million into these cartoons, which in today's money is close to 8 million. You get plenty of great animation for 8 millions worth.

@blank38

8 жыл бұрын

+gdf40 the half a million is already adjusted for inflation. no need to adjust it again.

Upon watching the series I was suprised to find that Superman's Kansas orgin was nowhere to be found. He was sent to an orphanage which is where he discovers his powers.

im 17 years old and i loved these cartoons as a kid, thank you dad for being 73 right now and showing me this wonder

This is a fantastic piece of information. Worthy of television. Subscribed, pledged and looking forward to your next work!

@kaptainkristian

8 жыл бұрын

+pdrafter Thank you! The next one will be up in 2 weeks.

@theyvorcer9077

8 жыл бұрын

+kaptainkristian Great work man really inspiaring. keep it up

@Chikaboom_b4ak

8 жыл бұрын

+kaptainkristian whoa this is your first video nd its already trending congrats to you

i watched this video thinking I would skip most of it, ended up watching the whole video with my full attention. Amazing video.

6:24 Not really, if they're done right. You can't tell me that the first halves of Iron Man and Batman Begins aren't better than their second halves. Like, I understand the origin fatigue, but if you push that anti-origin sentiment too far, you get problems like Spider-Man: Homecoming, which did *everything in its power* not to mention Uncle Ben, losing one of the key elements that makes Spider-Man Spider-Man.

@andyknightwarden9746

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, to be fair, I think that killing a new Uncle Ben every reboot is kinda old hat at this point. It seems to have happened, and nothing more needs to be said about it. Peter seems to have learned the great power, great responsibility lesson, too. That was why Stark was drawn to Peter in the first place.

@captainjakemerica4579

3 жыл бұрын

@@andyknightwarden9746 Thank you I agree that was the right approach superheroes with common knowledge origin stories

@wo3701

3 жыл бұрын

@@andyknightwarden9746 I get your point, and if they wanted Tony to be the new Uncle Ben, that'd be fine. Not as strong as Uncle Ben himself, but fine. However, they don't go far enough with that. Tony doesn't have that connection with Peter that the future movies (Infinity War and Endgame) wants us to think they have. I cringe every time I watch the Endgame battle and it has to stop for Tony and Peter acting like they've gone through like twelve movies together lmao

@terrancelee9503

2 жыл бұрын

Homecoming actually was going to have a scene that directly mentioned Ben. The writers decided that Ben was far too important to namedrop him once in a movie that had nothing to do with him (much like TASM 2 did). The writers have much more respect for Spidey’s origins than some people recognize. I legit think the monologue in Civil War does a better job at explaining his motivation than the two movies dedicated entirely to them. Which is the problem with origins mentioned in this video: a motivation that can be perfectly established in seconds so as to make room for the actual story is instead spread thin to last an hour. Plus, it’s not so much Ben’s actual death as it is Peter’s desire to be greater after it that is the core of the character.

Can I just say how incredibly well made this video is? Seriously, bravo. Definitely subbed.

I'm glad somebody's giving these credit, they're frickin masterful

I'm adoring your videos, high quality content you're making. Saw the latest one cuz of phil defranco. Instant subscribe.

@Venus581G

8 жыл бұрын

+kaptainkristian He mentioned it in his show today. more specifically your Adult Swim video

@MultiDiarmuid

8 жыл бұрын

+kaptainkristian Is this your first channel on KZread? Because this is seriously very well made.

@Xplozhun85

8 жыл бұрын

+K-C Rhoder IN THE YEEEAAAR 2016!! Plenty of people. He's still great.

@-Salalah

8 жыл бұрын

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@Optimegatrongodzilla

7 жыл бұрын

Please make a playlist that has all of your videos in order, including ones that you didn't upload to your page, like "Spider-Man: The Lessons of Heroism".

Hey Kaptain, always enjoy coming back and rewatching your videos! Hope all is well. Thank you for creating such wonderful, creative, high quality videos.

Thank you so much! I've been a huge fan of the Fleischer Superman for a very long time and your commentary about it was dead-on. The art style of that era was so beautiful and interesting, it's a shame that nobody does it anymore. Consider me a new subscriber!

3:03. I'm going insane

@velvetthunder4150

7 жыл бұрын

How has no one noticed this before?

@ThatGuy-ev9ko

7 жыл бұрын

Holy crud XD

@megatronsroyalemissary382

6 жыл бұрын

Who is that?

@jackorion482

6 жыл бұрын

Gucci mayyne?

@illTortuga

6 жыл бұрын

I have no explanation

I like how the 1941 cartoon is animated better than Justice League Action.

@icecreamhero2375

6 жыл бұрын

They had bigger budgets

@ibrahimhassan6566

5 жыл бұрын

Half million dollar per episode is huge number and the talent behind it is crazy

I watch this like once every few years. You really nailed this. One of my favorite videos on youtube

As an early Gen Z kid in a middle-lower class family (at the time), we had a collection of vhs tapes and dvds. Lotta classic movies, a few recent ones on dvds. Anyway, this show was on one of the vhs tapes and I loved it. 5-7 year old me didn’t even know it was from the 40s, I thought it was the same age as the Scooby Doo episodes I watched. Still my favorite incarnation of Superman, next to the Justice League show.

This was made in the 40s?! Jesus, this is some high quality animation.

Just wanna say congrats on your future success cause you're about to take off.

@kaptainkristian

8 жыл бұрын

+dkmfan442 You are very kind. I'll try not to blow it

My little brother and I grew up on these cartoons. To this day, I think about them often, and I can't exactly say why. You hit it right on the head. The more you explain Superman, the bigger the mistake you're making. These cartoons got that.

I comeback to this video once every year and am always blown away by how amazing it is. It’s the only video on youtube I’ve favorited in like 15 years of using the platform.

In the leagues with every frame and the nerd writer, can't wait to see what you do next

@Melkac

7 жыл бұрын

nerd writer kinda sucks tho

@crisolvera9428

7 жыл бұрын

He's content has gone down hill recently; I must agree. But if were talkin' 10 Months ago....

@johnhooyer3101

6 жыл бұрын

Not saying that Nerrwriter1 sucks, but I think that this is better than Nerdwriter1. Among other things, videos like "The Perils of Worldbuilding" don't have any actual point other than to make a contrived point for the sake of making a contrived point. That guy tries way to hard to make his opinions unique. What he does, he does really well, but I stopped watching his videos because I no longer learned anything meaningful from him.

3:51 Superman running fast to go back in time... I really loved how much attention you gave to each and every detail, just like the artists back then... Loved your voice and the video... SUBSCRIBED!

Fantastic video! I had bought the entire series on DVD years ago and it's incredible. The artwork and animation is just remarkable. The time and careful work put into it was just astonishing, showing a reverence for the character.

You nailed it with that last comment; "He's just a dude from Kansas doing the right thing!" That's really what makes Superman work and why he should be the MOST relatable character of all.

"lets go back in time" shows superman flying around the earth. hilarious.

Your videos are the best thing to happen to KZread.

Love your explanation of who superman is. It's unfortunate that the character is hard to adapt for 'mature' audiences, but he's a wonderful role model for kids.

I'm surprised people are just now seeing this. But its even more crazy how it look like this in the 40s but didn't get much better.

@tomstonemale

4 жыл бұрын

Not really. If you adjust the budget for the best 1940 animation with today, it's a crazy amount of money for an animated movie, let alone an animated show. Half a million per episode is too much today.

This should be mandatory viewing for everyone involved in the DCCU.

@TheAlamla

7 жыл бұрын

chaosinorderrr Sure smartie, this videomaker and you know so much better than people actualling producing content.

Somebody send this to Zack Snyder. Thank you.

@reptomicus

8 жыл бұрын

+JML689 Snyder wouldn't understand it even if he saw it.

@thisistheendpt2

8 жыл бұрын

+JML689 Snyder directed. He never wrote Superman. Only film he wrote was SuckerPunch. Yep. Terrible writer.

@negavenom

7 жыл бұрын

Plus, he took things out of context from The Dark Knight Returns without understanding why superman and batman fought in the first place.

First video of yours that I have watched, and now I have to watch every video on your channel. Great job keep it up!

it's a bird it's a plane it's gucci mane. because superman doesn't rhyme with plane and gucci mane does. it's a shit joke, i had just started. give me a break.

@xmisogyny

6 жыл бұрын

I had to go back and pause it I had never been so confused

@TilerYo

6 жыл бұрын

kaptainkristian there was an attempt.

@MonkeyspankO

6 жыл бұрын

whoa! great video...just when i thought i knew geek lore you gotta spring this on me. just ordered the last dvd set on amazon 5:15 Dr.Who Return of Mystero also homages that part

@SethMarcell

6 жыл бұрын

ok, i thought i was tripping.

@justAguyDs

6 жыл бұрын

kaptainkristian Reddit let me to you and this video just made me subscribe cause I want more

"He's just a dude, from Kansas, doing the right thing." Fucking beautiful.

@thenoirknight5729

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! *Superman:* "I grew up in Kansas, General. I'm about as American as it gets."

Caught your X-Men video and your previous posts. Had to subscribe. This is definitely a channel to watch out for.

Dude this is one of the best documentaries of Superman I ever seen keep doing what you're doing that's awesome

Yo your videos are art man and you are probably one of the best video-essaysists on KZread!! Keep at it man

This is awesome! The editing, layout, pacing and commentary is top notch work. Like the others said, looking forward to your future work and success!

Really wish DC had watched this before making BvS

@buttermilkboy5618

8 жыл бұрын

This video came later though

@majiuelhoque

8 жыл бұрын

Here comes the unnecessary Batman v Superman hate!

@GameLarkRemixes

8 жыл бұрын

+Hoque Productions I think you mean warranted hate.

@majiuelhoque

8 жыл бұрын

GameLark In what ways does it warrant the hate? (Also before you say I like the MCU films and have no problem with Marvel whatsoever)

@GameLarkRemixes

8 жыл бұрын

+Hoque Productions Because it's clear DC doesn't understand their own characters.

why does this look so fluid..why dont animated movies of this age dont have this superman/ ghibli style magic

@panhow

3 жыл бұрын

Money, time and talents

@judasbooth5455

2 жыл бұрын

If you want animation like that you shouldn't search it on TV animation.

@msp9413

2 жыл бұрын

@@judasbooth5455 ghibli is not tv....for years now they have outclassed western animators

@cara-seyun

2 жыл бұрын

People don’t seem to care, in all honesty. As long as it has funny gags and bright colors and the story moves at a decent pace, no one really cares how the cartoon is animated. So studios put less effort into it.

that video was super simple yet must have taken a ton of research and montage. well done man! well done indeed! I love the fact that as a animation fan you've converted a complex subject is such a digestible way. I think you've just earned a new fan.

You just explained why superman is kickass in a matter of 7 minutes, something the movie seems to be struggling to translate to the big screen. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 That was awesome.

@antoniochasten3192

8 жыл бұрын

+Taha Shujaat I agree. Zack Snyder and David Goyer don't have a clue who the Superman character is. Man of Steel was trash and in that movie they metaphorically killed him. I don't know if you've seen BvS yet so I won't spoil the movie for you but they do an even worse job with Superman in that film.

@Tshujaat

8 жыл бұрын

+Antonio Chasten I haven't yet but from what I gathered, he does seem to understand the character to some extent but I don't think he knows how to translate him to the big screen. Or atleast give him some scenes/lines that makes him awesome

@antoniochasten3192

8 жыл бұрын

He doesn't. He did something in BvS and he explained in an interview I saw last week as to why he did it to start Superman on his hero journey. But what he did to start him on that hero journey was just stupid. The motivation he gives Superman to start this journey told me something that I knew when I watched Man of Steel. Zack Snyder and David Goyer do not know the character or what makes him special.

@antoniochasten3192

8 жыл бұрын

Taha Shujaat I do agree that you should see BvS and make up your own mind about how you feel about the movie but I have to warn you. While it is a beautifully shot movie which is a treat to look at...it's a hot mess. It is terribly edited, sloppy plot holes, scenes that don't make sense, dumb dialogue (mostly coming from Superman) and ALOT of killing. Gal Gadot is the bright spot in this movie (for me she was) and I can't wait to see her solo movie and James Wan's Aquaman with Jason Momoa.

*_I can see this channel becoming BIG. Very BIG._*

@TheBakuganmaster99

6 жыл бұрын

Rashik Hossain Well it did

Wow, this video changed my opinion on Superman. I used to think he was boring because he was so simple, but now I realise he is a much more profound character. Thanks for making this video. And that animation! I can't believe it's actually from the 40's.

This is so great I can't even describe it. Great work man! I also find it really interesting when finding out about things that were made to a better standard/quality in the past then then what we do today and how they did it, so you really made my day today :D

I can't believe you've only been making videos for TWO WEEKS. You're an inspiration, man. I'm going to strive to be like you. This is the BEST video I've seen in quite some time. Keep up the good work!

I love that in Batman V Superman the message (that many people missed) was that whilst so many people saw him as an alien, a god, a threat, a savior ... he was a just a guy from Kansas trying his hardest to do the right thing!

@TheAlamla

7 жыл бұрын

Lupe Walker Yeah, exactly what this video recommends, having a complex story around this simple character. But saying BvS is shit is cool right?

@lupewalker5220

7 жыл бұрын

TheAlamla Who said BvS is shit?

@TheAlamla

7 жыл бұрын

Half the comments here?

@manat31790

7 жыл бұрын

I get that point. Except the execution wasn't right. Superman in BvS was not at all expressive at telling people he's not a god because he's such a stoic mess. I'd imagine him at least yelling at Luthor "You're wrong about me" or "You don't know anything about me", but that didn't happen. Instead he stayed quiet and was being deaf to every criticism people made. Due to the shoddy representation of Superman, There's no wonder why even audiences get so easily convinced by Luthor and Batman, who threw the words "god" and "alien" around like there's no tomorrow.

@dantegoat8568

6 жыл бұрын

kid nobody missed the message since how much it's shoved in your face. it's how shit the whole movie was.

Second video I've seen from you. I am now a subscriber because of it. Well done, man. All Superman fans thank you👍

I remember seeing these animations before and always wondering where it came from... thank you for making such an informative video!