You have made some great changes I like how you've got Donners and Lesters name at the end in the S2 style font. Id probably take out the sequence where he blocks the river, the miniatures are bad. Id cut around it and use more of the earthquake stuff.

@MGSBigBoss77

5 жыл бұрын

Hush ollie, lol. Nah we want to see the Lego stuff moreso (laughs). The miniatures here are far superior to today's CGI in way too many movies! Lets honor Derek Meddings please and not trash him while he's deceased!

@darthkurland

5 жыл бұрын

Oliver Harper I’d also replace the score with the restored version. You yourself said that the film’s mix muddied up the score in your retrospective/review of “Superman II.”

I love that bit where Superman angrily flies into the camera, and the final credit appears.

Getting the "And...." listing at the end of the cast list, as Stamp did, is a sign you are a huge actor and it's an honour for the film-makers to have you on board. Russell Crowe gets the same in Man Of Steel, as did Patrick Stewart in X Men 3.

I look at it almost like a music video even before there were music videos lol. Sometimes the timing of the music is perfectly synched with what we're seeing. And don't forget, this recap opening set the standard for any and all comic book movies that have done it since!!

I kind of can't believe I am saying this, but that was actually better than the original credits. Well done.

@faneditedbybooshman

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I've actually redone this since, with better colours. So these edits but the names are more legible and not blown out like on the bluray.

@darthkurland

Жыл бұрын

@@faneditedbybooshman any chance of posting the updated version?

@faneditedbybooshman

Жыл бұрын

@@darthkurland I can do. Keep an eye out.

@faneditedbybooshman

Жыл бұрын

@@darthkurland After trying no less than 5 times with adjustments I cannot upload a new version of the credits without it being blocked in all territories by WB. Not sure why it's fine for the other 2 versions on the channel but not another.

@faneditedbybooshman

Жыл бұрын

@@darthkurland Uploaded here. mega.nz/file/HxFwlQbA#1yqyJm8FzthSq3FiEW6rYLvnHCwiTBrTfjeD6ereaKQ

I would love an alternate opening credit on Superman 2 with the John Williams score from Superman 1. It's more powerful.

@darthkurland

4 жыл бұрын

Jesus Saves I think that I know what the credit you have in mind would say. “Music by John Williams Adapted & Conducted by Ken Thorne”

I like this opening credits! Someone needs to create the ultimate cut of Superman 2 with this opening.

@faneditedbybooshman

7 жыл бұрын

forums.fanedit.org/thread-5133.html

I'd have put Reeve's name before Hackman's, personally, since he was a star, by that point, off the success of the first film. And I would've had Lester's name zoom in under and right after Donner's, to indicate visually his work came AFTER Donner's and is supplementary to his on the film. (And I would've added Lester's name on the producer slot, since he was an uncredited producer on the Donner portions from June '77 onwards, but that's just me.)

@darthkurland

2 жыл бұрын

I think that Lester’s official job was as an associate producer during the Donner years.

I also saw some of the effort you put into remastering the two extended scenes from “Superman IV.” If your edit of that film is available, what would you title it? I would go with something straightforward like “Superman IV: Restored International Cut.”

@faneditedbybooshman

2 жыл бұрын

It is available, it's titled Superman IV International Cut.

I hope that for the final product that Ken Thorne’s score is presented using the restored masters from the “Superman: The Music” boxed set. I really hated the way his score was mixed in the finished film. It sounded like it was muddied up. The 2007 boxed set finally presents the score the way it was intended.

@faneditedbybooshman

4 жыл бұрын

That's a very big ask. I have no idea if it's even possible to replicate the 5.1 audio without individual stems of the remastered recordings. If you listen to the L,R and C channels separately you can hear the separation of the instruments. To recreate that from just stereo elements and then still have to add back in all the sound effects is likely more trouble than it's worth.

@darthkurland

4 жыл бұрын

faneditedbybooshman if you feel like you need help with that, I’m on speaking terms with the guy who restored the score, Mike Matessino. If anyone would know how to do that kind of restoration work, it’s him.

@faneditedbybooshman

4 жыл бұрын

@@darthkurland If you can get access to what would be required to create a 5.1 mix then by all means give me a shout.

@darthkurland

4 жыл бұрын

faneditedbybooshman Matessino has access to the original music elements and I believe that the original raw sound effects have been made available on KZread. The only thing missing is the original dialogue tracks.

@faneditedbybooshman

4 жыл бұрын

@@darthkurland Can you direct me to the sound effects?

Random question but Do you think when they were originally filming both movies, that they intended to bookend the film with the young girl speaking in the theater and then showing the theater curtains closing?

It's just alphabetical order after Reeve. Brando and Hackman get top billing as they did for Superman the Movie. It was the addition of Brando that meant I needed to redo all the credits up to Valerie Perrine to keep them alphabetised,

@moviemayhem3780

6 жыл бұрын

faneditedbybooshman how the fuck do you do it, though

@dougconnor338

5 жыл бұрын

hey booshman, I've been trying to replicate your fan-edited version of the titles for months and i still haven't got close , can you show me how you did it, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?!!!!!!!!!!!

@darthkurland

4 жыл бұрын

Doug Connor I’m also curious about that. How did you manage to create these new credits and have them match the originals so seamlessly?

@faneditedbybooshman

4 жыл бұрын

@@darthkurland Lots of trial and error and many hours of tweaking. I also made sure to only use footage from the Superman movies for any patching. Some space footage from Superman the Movie helps with the blending. I have a bunch of test clips I could put up a video of the progression over time if there is interest?

@darthkurland

4 жыл бұрын

faneditedbybooshman please. I’m always interested in behind the scenes material.

The order of the cast listing is really ineresting, I mean Marlon Brando and Gene Hackman get higher billing than Christopher Reeve. And Sarah Douglas gets higher billing than Margot Kidder let alone Terrence Stamp geting stuck right near the back end of the cast list. I mean I know it's sort've about who is the bigger name, but there's also the matter of representing the Characters they play. After all. Ursa is only a sidekick of General Zodd and Jorell is hardly in the movie at all!

I love it, my only comment is less of the moving rocks and more of the Earthquake. other than that, perfect!

It seems a little odd that they felt the need to recap the whole first movie in the opening titles of the sequel. It's sort've like they're assuming no one went to see Superman The Movie, as it was billed at the time. I thought it was one of the biggest box ofice hits of the time?

@darthkurland

4 жыл бұрын

Mongo Boogie don’t forget about the gap in between the release of the two films. “Superman: The Movie” premiered in December of 1978. “Superman II” opened in Europe in 1980 and the rest of the world a year later. That’s a 2-3 year gap. Even though the last credit at the end of the first film said: Next Year: “Superman II” it would be 2-3 years before the second film would be released.

@U2QuoZepplin

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Kurland I never knew that great bit of trivia. I was born in 78 so it wouldn’t have registered too much on my radar.

@darthkurland

4 жыл бұрын

Mongo Boogie it’s true that both films were filmed for the most part simultaneously. Richard Donner had actually finished filming almost 80% of his shooting script for “Superman II” when he had to put it on hold to make the release date of the first film. Unfortunately, the producers gave him the boot from “Superman II.”

@Ashworth6

3 жыл бұрын

Richard Lester stated that the Superman II opening credits montage was intended to be a reminder for the audience of what had happened in the first film, given the 2 year gap between movies. It wasn't intended for viewers who had never seen Superman The Movie.

@darthkurland

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ashworth6 that makes sense. It was a recap of what happened last time, in case some audience members missed seeing the first film. The first film would actually be shown on network TV in 1982 on ABC. However, it was extended to a runtime of 188 minutes, which led to it being shown over a two-night period in February of 1982.

I just realized that there are still a couple of credits missing. Here’s the way they should have been seen after the cast. Production Designed by John Barry Photographed by Geoffrey Unsworth, BSC Edited by Stuart Baird & John Victor Smith Music by John Williams Adapted & Conducted by Ken Thorne Superman Created by Jerry Siegel & Joe Shuster Story by Mario Puzo Screenplay by Mario Puzo and David & Leslie Newman Creative Consultant: Tom Mankiewicz Associate Producers: Charles Greenlaw & Richard Lester Executive Producer: Ilya Salkind Produced by Pierre Spengler Directed by Richard Donner

@darthkurland

2 жыл бұрын

The film was Donner’s the whole time. Lester admitted it himself. I would have shifted most of Lester’s team to the end credits. Additional Production Design: Peter Murton Additional Photography: Robert Paynter Executive Assistant to Richard Donner: Jeanne Ferber Of course, we can’t forget about those amazing VFX artists. Mattes & Composites: Les Bowie Miniatures: Derek Meddings Physical Effects: Colin Chilvers Optical Visual Effects: Roy Field, BSC Process Photography: Denis Coop Zoptics Supervisor: Zoran Peresic Makeup Effects: Stuart Freeborn Special VFX Sequences: Peter Parkes and Oxford Scientific Films

Okay. that's cool. I just thought it was a little weird that's all.

That is SO GREAT! I want to see that movie! When can we see it?

@faneditedbybooshman

5 жыл бұрын

It's still not done! The scope of it has expanded somewhat over time, as my time to work on it has become less. I have a little girl now, so this is on the back burner. If you want to see where it's up to as well as the direction it's taking, read the thread on FE.org forums.fanedit.org/showthread.php?tid=5133

boosh, i need help getting it seeded

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least Donner has the clout to add Lesters name on His cut.

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