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Supergroups! (w/Martin Popoff)
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Mr. Big is one of the best examples of a Hard Rock supergroup: Paul Gilbert (Racer X), Billy Sheehan (Talas, David Lee Roth), Pat Torpey(Ted Nugent, Impellitteri) and Eric Martin ( Eric Martin Band)
The look on Pete’s face when Martin says “Jason Bonham is a better drummer than his father ! “ great stuff - great show ! Love it ! Love Martin Popoff!
@mikem.7921
3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say better but definitely his equal on the drums
@obbor4
3 жыл бұрын
Yoyoka is already as good as either of them!
@analogkid2869
3 жыл бұрын
@@obbor4 I have no clue to who that is.
@obbor4
3 жыл бұрын
@@analogkid2869 kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2Wk3JN-aNOnf7w.html
@jazzpunk
3 жыл бұрын
@@obbor4 I enjoy watching prodigy players...that said, Bonham came up with those beats/grooves. And within a band, too. Lotta great wunderkinds on YT...but until i hear 'em in a band with other live players...I will just reserve my opinion.
1. Asia 2. Bad Company 3. Emerson, Lake, and Palmer 4. Mr. Big 5. The Traveling Wilbury's 6. Derek and the Dominoes 7. Captain Beyond 8. U.K. 9. GTR 10. Mike + the Mechanics 11. Damn Yankees 12. Paice Ashton Lord 13. Beck, Bogert & Appice 14. Blind Faith 15. Humble Pie 16. Rossington Collins Band 17. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young 18. Chickenfoot 19. Cream Honorable Mentions: - Emerson, Lake and Powell - Coverdale Page - Hughes Turner Project - Temple of the Dog - Black Country Communion
@obbor4
3 жыл бұрын
I don't see Cream anywhere on this list. What gives?
@ZYVZX
3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you left out the Starfleet Project! The only outside of VH recording that Eddie Van Halen did without his eponymous band! Feat members of Queen, REO and Van Halen! Doesn't get much better than that. Everybody forgets about this one. Even the DLR band was a supergroup - Dave Roth, Steve Vai and Billy. Doesn't get any more super than that!
Captain Beyond (1971-1973). The Lords of the New Church (1981-1989). The Highwaymen (1985-1995). Traveling Wilburys (1988-1991). Shrinebuilder (2008-2012).
@jazzpunk
3 жыл бұрын
...was wondering when Captain Beyond would show up.
As always Martin and Pete have a great discussion. My list is limited to groups whose music I have purchased over the years. ELP Asia CSNY Derek and the Dominoes The Travelling Wilburys and from the world of Jazz.. Return to Forever with Chick Corea
Pardo/Popoff connection is easily the best thing happening on KZread. It's even more appreciated at this time as the regular tube is being ruined by reality-TV. Thank you.
I have to throw in my 2 Cents and say HSAS ( Sammy Hagar, Neal Schon, Michael Shrieve, Kenny Aronson ) was a KILLER Project from the early 80s !!
@metalslather
3 жыл бұрын
I'll toss in two more cents
@pvdguitars2951
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and now Chickenfoot!
@vinylsolution2522
3 жыл бұрын
What's extra crazy about HSAS is, it's a live album! They wrote the songs, then toured the west coast and recorded the shows. They just left out the mics of the audience. Blazing album, hope they release the full set sometime, there are many more HSAS songs from those shows.
The 2 that standout to me as a fan....FREE & BADLANDS. Hard,bluesy rock-definitely difficult to deny these bands presence & talent. Legends: Paul Rodgers,Paul Kossoff,Jake E. Lee,Ray Gillen,Simon Kirke,Jeff Martin & all the others that filled their ranks!!!
Just realised King Crimson were a Supergroup with Bruford, Fripp, Levin and Belew. So they were my favourite supergroup. Can't be beat can it? Cream were also magic.
I respectfully disagrew with Martin - Free were definitely a better band than Bad Company. They had way more variety in their songwriting and were more versatile dynamically and in their sound. Bad Company - fun band but way more 2d for me. But hey, different strokes for different folks! Fun episode as ever 🙂
@jimmycampbell78
3 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with Martin too! I think Free were underrated if anything. But they could be mellow and very much had blues and soul influences. Bad Company were a straight ahead hard rock band. So I understand why Martin prefers that even if we disagree.
@PhilBaird1
3 жыл бұрын
First time I ever heard anyone say that Bad Company were a better band than Free. Martin's a mine of information and knows his stuff but he does come out with the occasional tea-spitter. I know these are only opinions but he's wrong on every level here. Paul Rodgers would be the first to disagree with him. Bad Company were more of a straight up rock band and a really good one at that but that's as far as it goes.
@markrago7217
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Bad Company doesn't do much for me. Paul Rodgers should have joined Deep Purple instead.
@patrickarrington738
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too in a way I think free had more soul more grit more rawness way more groove and really bluesy but the question is would they have stood the test of time? Maybe a couple of years kossoff had major heroin problems and it ended up to be his demise paul kossoff was one very very underated bluesy guitarist.
@williamgainford9332
3 жыл бұрын
I always seen bad co - as a watered down version of free to fill stadiums - had a handfull of great tunes - but not in the same league as free - who were superb - surprised at martins comment!!!!
Super Sessions - Kooper, Stills and Bloomfield. Quality from start to finish.
Re: UK - Eddie Jobson was probably most famous at the time for being a member of a band called Curved Air who had a big following in Europe.
Them Crooked Vulture, David Grohl, Josh Homme, John Paul Jones and Alain Johannes, Damn fine group there and Fantastic album
@manuelper
3 жыл бұрын
They really should make another one. Great band.
Thank you for your Supergroups! (W/ Martin Popoff) video.🎤🎸🎵🥁
I think the greatest super group has to be the traveling wilburys. just for one reason: they stayed friends the whole time they were not driven apart by ego or anything... they truly enjoyed playing with each other. trio was good too 🤠 Dolly Parton emmylou Harris and Linda Ronstadt 🤗
@josuejasper8740
3 жыл бұрын
I dont mean to be so offtopic but does anyone know a method to log back into an Instagram account..? I was stupid lost my login password. I would love any tips you can give me!
@princetonimran7524
3 жыл бұрын
@Josue Jasper Instablaster :)
@treffbennett6534
2 жыл бұрын
yeah, you could hear the love between them in the grooves of the music-love both albums from the Wilburys for their effortless chemistry and good-time feel.......great acoustic playing all over the place! Simply playing together for the love of the music-we need a lot more of that!!!
Metalium is an example of a Power Metal supergroup. Their first line-up was: Chris Caffery (Savatage) - Guitars Mike Terrana (Malmsteen, Artension) - Drums Lars Ratz (Zed Yago) - Bass Henning Base (BrainStorm) - Vocals
@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812
3 жыл бұрын
They kick ass.
Humble Pie was one of the earlier ones worth considering.
The early ones are still the best - Cream, Crosby, Stills, and Nash (and Young), Blind Faith, etc. Some of the later ones like Asia or GTR sounded great at the time but their music hasn't aged particularly well IMO. The Traveling Wilburys still sound great.
@Scottlp2
3 жыл бұрын
Mostly agree (still have soft spot for Asia). The fact that one still hears songs from the Blind Faith album and new covers of their songs by singers in their 20s today, speaks for itself.
You guys mentioned Bloodbath! You guys rock! Everything these guys have done is just badass IMO. Even though they were meant to be an homage to early Death Metal, they are their own thing now, and rock. Thanks for mentioning this band.
Superb episode - good time was had by all. Pete and Martin - you work so well off one another. The love for this music shines through...keep it up.
Once again a fantastic show from Pete and Martin .. thanks. According to me, Transatlantic is the ultimate (recent) supergroup. A supergroup is great when the egos of everyone vanish to serve the music and the band.
Black Country Communion amazing supergroup!!
1. ASIA 2. UK 3. BLACK COUNTRY COMMUNION 4. SONS OF APOLLO 5. MR. BIG Love that first Blue Murder album ... and also, Glenn Hughes is now thriving in The Dead Daisies.
Loved this show, give us part 2!
80s version of King Crimson began as a supergroup called Discipline, with Levin and Belew joining Fripp and Bruford. Fripp eventually decided it was in the spirit of King Crimson.
@martinspencer1618
3 жыл бұрын
When I saw them at Manchester Poly in Spring 81 - supported by The Lounge Lizards - they were billed as Discipline. Best concert I've ever attended.
@darrendohertymusic
3 жыл бұрын
Martin I’m pretty sure this is the most impressed I’ve ever felt at reading a strangers concert experience. Just woah! My first Crimson experience was a bootleg cd of them in Austin and they were called Discipline...you could sense the anticipation and electricity in the room. I tip the cap
@martinspencer1618
3 жыл бұрын
@@darrendohertymusic I think their first concert on that tour was in Bath. And there's a photo of Kurt Smith - later of Tears For Fears - at the front of the audience.
What a way to spend an hour. I then go and play the albums featured and educate myself. Thanks guys.
Excellent show. Didn't know most of the details about these supergroup origins.
Great show Pete and Marrin. How about you guys do a show where you pick albums that you two think are perfect or near perfect albums. One thing I like about you two are the perfect album doesn't have to be a popular album by a band! Keep up the good work guys!
From the Grunge genre... Mad Season. Layne Staley on vox. Mike McCreedy from Pearl Jam on guitar and from Screaming Trees, Barret Martin on drums. John Baker Sonders from the Walkabouts on bass.
Martin, good point about Supergroups loving what they do to form the band and play the stuff they love although as we all know it doesn't necessarily produce great music.
Definitely need to mention Tomahawk and Fantomas. Anything with Mike Patton (Faith no More, Mr.Bungle) is badass. Put him together with guys from bands like Jesus Lizard in Tomahawk or guys like Buzzo from Melvins and Terry Bozzio (Zappa, BLS, UK) or Dave Lombardo (Slayer) in Fantomas, it doesn't get any better as modern supergroups go. Now Patton has brought Mr.Bungle back together with Trey Spruance and Trevor Dunn, and recruited Lombardo and Scott Ian (Anthrax) to round out the group. Plus he's the brains behind Peeping Tom, Dead Cross, and many others, and has worked with Bjork, Dillinger Escape Plan, and others. You could easily do an hour or two show about Mike Pattons discography, Pete Pardo.
Supergroup: 2 or more members was with previous known groups or solo artist (not including side projects: Mike & The Mechanics). *My Top 5:* *1)* Bad Company *2)* Asia *3)* McAuley Schenker Group *4)* U.K. *5)* Lynyrd Skynyrd {later years with Hugh Thomasson (Outlaws) & Rickey Medlocke (Blackfoot)}
Since they mentioned UK-which is a bonafide supergroup-its worth mentioning that King Crimson circa 1980 was supposed to a supergroup Discipline with Fripp (King Crimson), Bruford (Yes, King Crimson, UK,...), Tony Levin (Peter Gabriel) and Adrian Belew (Zappa, Bowie, Talking heads). Eventually morphed into King Crimson. The supergroups which recorded demos sessions but never a studio album was XYZ (Jimmy Page, Chris Squire and Alan White) I'd argue Rainbow was a supergroup.
Some random thoughts: The first Audioslave album worked well. The ones that followed, not so much. The same goes for Asia. CSN&Y might be the most successful supergroup since they had a long career and played stadiums at one time. The first Traveling Wilburys album is pretty good. The second, though, I can't get into. Maybe I'm a minority, but two I was never a fan of are Damn Yankees and Bad English. They just seemed like hollow versions of the bands the members normally belonged to. My favorite one-off album from a supergroup is Temple of the Dog. I used to call it the "Blind Faith of the 90s." I think the Mad Season album is okay, but half as good as Temple.
@wernermoritz882
3 жыл бұрын
I agree about Audioslave, but I prefer the Mad Season album to Temple of the Dog.
@Scottlp2
3 жыл бұрын
You’re right of course. Somehow it’s easy to overlook CSN +/- Y. Perhaps because they play softer music whereas the other groups here are harder rock/prog rock/metal (Don’t misunderstand-I love them, just tend to think of Cream, Blind Faith, etc when one thinks of supergroups).
@VeteranCapybara
3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call Audioslave a supergroup. They were RATM with a different singer. If you consider them a Supergroup, then Alter Bridge would fall under the Supergroup umbrella as well
@wernermoritz882
3 жыл бұрын
@@Scottlp2 You can’t make it more obvious that some band is a supergroup than naming ALL protagonists in the band name. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young is the perfect example. I don‘t think they are overlooked at all. I would rather assume that both Martin and Pete are not their biggest fans and they only picked supergroups they really love.
@TheD4VR0S
3 жыл бұрын
Damm Yankees I found them very disappointing I expected hard rock and didnt get it (apart from the 1st single)
How about an obscure supergroup? Little Village (John Hiatt, Ry Cooder, Nick Lowe, Jim Keltner).
@earring1
3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see someone mention them. Awesome album, then done sadly.
@eddiebranden1
3 жыл бұрын
I loved that album. Saw them at the Pantages Theater in Hollywood.
@Squirrelconga
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, man!!!!! 🤜🤛
DOWN is probably one of the best ever!!
Another Supergroup to consider. The Best. comprised of Keith Emerson, John Entwistle, Jeff "Skunk" Baxter, Simon Phillips and Joe Walsh. There are several videos here on KZread from their Japanese tour. Alas, they never toured in USA.
The Power Station... amazing album. Mich Jagger and Billy Idol were aproached to sing lead vocals but declined and they decided to go with soul singer Robert Palmer along With Guitarists John & Andy Taylor from Duran Duran.... Tony Thompson on Drum from R&B band Chic and also played drum on David Bowies Lets Dance album.
@petermcallister8489
2 жыл бұрын
John Taylor is a bassist, not a guitarist.
Humble Pie, Asia, The Firm, but Blind Faith is the Best IMHO. Good episode!!
Would love to see a second episode. Asia deserves their own synopsis for sure. Perhaps also get your thoughts on Hollywood Vampires.
Good morning Pete; there are some great Supergroups, but one in Particular that we all hope we will get to see; Black Country Communion!! Lets hope that happens and that they consider doing a Full blown tour in America! Have a good weekend Pete.😎
Foghat - formed in 1971 - Dave Peverett Tony Stevens Roger Earl Rod Price West, Bruce & Laing - 1972 Music on the Edge - Chroma - 1993 - Jim Beard Bob Berg Randy Brecker Mino Cinelu Dennis Chambers John Herrington Mark Ledford Mike Stern CAB - formation in 2000, and 4 studio albums - Bunney Brunel Dennis Chambers Tony MacAlpine Brian Auger Petite Blond - 1992 - Victor Bailey Dennis Chambers Mitch Forman Chuck Loeb Bill Evans Jazzmatazz - 1993 - Guru Carleen Anderson Roy Ayers Donald Byrd N'dea Davenport Ronny Jordan Courtney Pine Lonnie Liston Smith MC Solaar Gary Barnacle Zachary Breaux DC Lee Simon Law B.L.T / Truce - 1981 - Jack Bruce Bill Lordan Robin Trower Reg Isidore Rainbow - The Dio years Honorable mention: Robben Ford - The Inside Story - 1979 | This album featured Russell Ferrante, Jimmy Haslip, and Ricky Lawson, who would go on to form, the Yellowjackets.
A short lived band that I saw live in 1986; MGM. Bernie Marsden, Mel Galley, Neil Murray.
You guys are so awesome, thanks Pete for your show ! My pick is Transatlantic, take care !
Although I disagree with Martin's assessment of Free I however hugely respect him, He has amazing knowledge of music and I always enjoy listening of his informed opinions. Great show Pete and Martin
I saw UK three times. The original twice and and Bozzio once. The original played Central Park opening for Al DiMeola .With the two Al's every guitarist in town showed up. What a show at all three.
Even if you disagree with Martin you got to appreciate how brutally honest he is sometimes. If he doesn't like something he'll let you know. I feel a lot of people hold back to avoid backlash. Not Martin.
I remember reports of rehearsals with Wetton, Bruford and Wakeman. Didn't work out obviously, but we got UK instead - and they were GREAT!
Really enjoyed this. Black Country Communion and Sons of Appollo on my listeneing now. And XTC to come! Wow. Brilliant.
Fun show Pete and Martin. A few that came to mind while watching was The Power Station (Robert Palmer, Andy and John Taylor and Tony Thompson), Chickenfoot (Sammy Hagar, Michael Anthony, Joe Satriani and Chad Smith), Blue Coupe (Albert and Joe Bouchard, Dennis Dunaway) and Ayreon (Arjen Anthony Lucassen and a who's who of European prog/metal artists.)
Gotta be another show! So many bands you didn't mention.
Two bands I've haven't seen in the comments is Blue Murder and Badlands. How about Black Star Riders?
@newavatar2947
3 жыл бұрын
Blue Murder had only one binaries classic album although the 2nd is very good. Black Star Riders meh and I'm a Huge Lizzy fan. Never cared for Ricky Warwick wanna be Bruce Springsteen vocals.
Prog guy here, and I look forward to hearing your take on one of my favorite bands - XTC!
Popoff and Pardo once again. Trying to catch up on SoT and just saw this episode. Great topic and hoping you will do at least one more show together in this series. My recollection was that Blind Faith was the one of the first bands, if not the first band, I ever saw referred to as supergroup in the press when they formed. By tendency is towards the earlier band or albums of the genre since my years are a few more than either Martin's or Pete's. Cream; CSN&Y [definitely with Y]; Cactus; Emerson, Lake & Palmer and probably my all time favorite - Derek & The Dominos. Great show and discussion, gentlemen. You two always make your topic so interesting. Thanks again.
Great episode! Thank you for all you give us Pete. And Martin is cool as always. I wanna see more of disappointing live albums with Chris and Martin. I love when they go in on the long solo jamming. It's the best! 😄😃😎
I forgot, Black Country Communion too. Bassist/lead singer Glenn Hughes (Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Trapeze, etc), drummer Jason Bonham (Bonham, UFO, The Circle, son of and several time exclusive replacement for John Bonham in Led Zeppelin, etc), keyboardist Derek Sherinian (Dream Theater, Steve Vai, Yngwie, Alice Cooper, etc), and critically acclaimed blues/rock guitar virtuoso Joe Bonamossa. They have made four really good albums to date (the first one is the best imo), and members have made mention of plans to do a fifth, perhaps next year, after a couple year rift (due to tensions and artistic differences)between Hughes and Bonamossa was mutually mended and forgotten. Oh good, Martin just mentioned them. Can't miss supergroup. Also, check out Phenomena, a supergroup formed by producer/writer Tom Galley and his more known of brother Mel Galley, who played guitar with Whitesnake and also was the guitarist and cofounder of years before they were all super, um, group Trapeze with the aforementioned Glenn Hughes and drummer Dave Holland, who later played with Judas Priest. The band has featured a number of respected rock veterans across several albums since around 1985, including Hughes, Cozy Powell (Rainbow, Sabbath, ELPowell, etc), Ted McKenna (MSG), Big John Thomas (Budgie), Brian May (Queen), Scott Gorham (Thin Lizzy),Ray Gillan (Badlands, Black Sabbath), Max Bacon (GTR), John Wetton (Asia, King Crimson, UK, Roxy Music, Mogul Thrash, and oddly enough, Uriah Heep), Tony Martin (Black Sabbath, Giuntini Project, The Cage) and others. Anyhow Trapeze also employed the likes of guitarist Rob Kendrick (later joined Budgie for a short stint) and vocalist Pete Goalby who later became frontman for Uriah Heep from 1982-1985 or 86, bridging the gap between totally miscast lead vocalist John Sloman (Loan Star) and current and longest serving UH singer Bernie Shaw. Too bad they didn't do more with John Lawton. Byron was the face and heart of Heep from 1970-1976, but Lawton filled Byrons shoes tremendously . Whatever inferiority Lawton had to Byron in sex appeal or stage presence, he more than compensated for with a set of vocal chords that were almost certainly the best to ever grace UH. It's crazy that those few years and three original studio albums with Heep represent the relatively short lived apex of Lawtons career.
They’re a totally stacked roster, and easy to easy to pick as best supergroup, but Traveling Wilbury’s were phenomenal.
@mmk7340
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, good call.
My 2 fav supergroups are Transatlantic and one I have yet to see anyone mention here......The Mighty Jeremiahs. Some great blues!
Mike Shrieve from Santana was briefly in a super group called Go (Japanese for five) with Stomu Yamashta, Steve Winwood, Al Di Meola, and Klaus Schulze. They apparently released two well-received studio albums and one live album. I've been meaning to check them out.
@beboprichie
3 жыл бұрын
Both fantastic but very expensive
@bmboldt
3 жыл бұрын
I have seen nice used vinyl copies of the first album recently for about $3. Great album.
@beboprichie
3 жыл бұрын
@@bmboldt good to know, thanks
Thanks for reminding me of Down. I haven't listened to NOLA in years. Now listening to NOLA...it's a raging slab of goodness.
@integrity101
3 жыл бұрын
The band just played ALL of NOLA live. I prefer Down II & III but they are all good
Transatlantic and Flying Colours - both great bands. XTC one of my favourite bands of all time. Looking forward to that. It's a bit previous but: 1. Venus apple 2. Nonsuch 3. Black Sea 4. Oranges and Lemons.
Wild horses are often forgotten about - robbo ex thin lizzy - jimmy bain ex rainbow - neil carter - ex ufo - clive edwards - ex pat travers - theres footage of them playing reservation - live on a tv show in the uk in 80 - its fantastic - the headbangers in the crowd - really bring you back to a time and a place .
Mad Season. The only had one album, “Above”, but I think it was the best Seattle album of the 90s.
@thespiritof6717
3 жыл бұрын
Mad Season was terrific
my Ex wife insisted we see the Damn Yankees and Bad Company show in Milwaukee. I still call it the Dam Bad Show.
@DetVen
3 жыл бұрын
I saw that tour, summer of 90 at Pine Knob (outside Detroit), was sold-out and was an amazing concert, met a nice girl I do recall.
Thanks guys The voice of Paul Rodgers is exceptional and yes Bruford is the man in percussions😉
Pete, just read Coverdale Page reissuing their album eventually with unreleased tracks!
@derekwilliams1660
3 жыл бұрын
Seriously,that is so cool. I wanted the Coverdale/Page album when it came out.
@theosrevenge
3 жыл бұрын
@@derekwilliams1660 I will be on that like a fat broad on the last slice of pizza
@michaelwright664
3 жыл бұрын
@@theosrevenge 🤣😜 Classic!👍🏻
@michaelwright664
3 жыл бұрын
I so hope it does, for the last four years Coverdale has been pushing Page to re-release it with all the leftover studio tracks ( in fact Dave has said Page was holding onto them for their second Album before Robert Plant started threatening and hounding Page about working with David ) Robert always had a hatred for Coverdale in the music press through the early 80’s & 90’s, I never knew why ? ( and I love both Plant & Coverdale ) The Coverdale/Page Album is amazing 👍🏻
You guys should do a Part 2. Some newer groups like KXM should be included. Made up of Doug Pinnick (King’s X), George Lynch (Dokken), and Ray Luzier (Korn), they have released 3 great records. Really outstanding band.
You mentioned Mr Big guys and they're one that certainly springs to mind to feature. There's Bad English as well, but they maybe a bit 'too Ballad heavy' for Martin to enjoy.
Good stuff here. I'll throw Temple of the Dog out there as well. BANGER ALERT: The new BMTH x BM collab Kingslayer
Speaking of Swan Song, how about "Detective"? (Michael des Barres from Silverhead, Michael Monarch from Steppenwolf, Tony Kaye from Yes, Produced by Jimmy Page.) I think they should have been bigger than they were, Maybe they came out too late?
@ukrocksounds3419
3 жыл бұрын
Yes i agree very rated. Great heavy drums, remain me of bonham.
@captainbeyond7469
3 жыл бұрын
100% loved Detective. Second album was my favorite.
@turefromfinland3264
3 жыл бұрын
Silverhead was a really good band. Both albums are excellent rock/hard rock. But Detective was really boring!!!
The Winery Dogs are another great Supergroup
I don’t get how anyone can consider Bad Company an improvement on Free. The latter band had two of the most distinctive and individual musicians of the late ‘60s in Andy Fraser and Paul Kossoff, and Bad Company, err, didn’t. Free had a wonderfully loose, funky sound. Bad Company was made for FM radio and smoothed off all the rough edges. They made some good music on occasion but they weren’t in the same league musically as the former band. Obviously millions bought their albums but it was a different era when massive album sales was becoming the norm for a huge act.
@Miler97487
3 жыл бұрын
I would have said what Bad Company improved on was greater commercial success and many more songs FM rock staples than Free where only "All Right Now" gets regular FM radio airplay. Free has a lot to offer but you have to buy their albums and explore.
@unchattytwit
3 жыл бұрын
Agree with Patrick. Although I like BC let's face it they were essentially a commercial venture without the rawness that for me makes the best music.
@nickrogerson8129
3 жыл бұрын
Just out of interest, when you say try Free have you listened to complete albums of theirs? I have no idea who those bands are you mention, sorry!
@Miler97487
3 жыл бұрын
@@nickrogerson8129 I think Martin was referring to very early UFO, in particular their second album that later received a German release on the Nova label. Most UFO fans are much more fond of the Michael Schenker-era albums. As for Brain he's referring to a German label which I don't believe UFO was ever on, but was the label Scorpions' Lonesome Crow was on. Michael Schenker was a member and too an album many fans aren't fond of. He was comparing Free to early UFO and perhaps the Scorpions' Lonesome Crow.
1.Don Dokken's Up from the Ashes band: Don Dokken, John Norum, Peter Baltes, Mikkey Dee, Billy White 2.Night Flight Orchestra 3.W.E.T. 4.Spiritual Beggars 5. Joe Elliott's Down'n'Outz
@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812
3 жыл бұрын
That Don Dokken solo album smokes. Good choice.
Love Bad Company and Paul Rodgers! Saw them with Skynyrd 7 or 8 years ago great show! Like with Ann Wilson of Heart I will always go and see Paul Rodgers when he plays in the Charlotte area.
Great show guys! Do it again please!
This was an educational video. Thanks guys! I never really thought of a few of these bands as true 'super groups' due to the fact that they aren't really promoted as such.
Detective, Widowmaker, Cream, and Jeff Beck’s band.
Great Choices! yes please do more shows on this topic!!!
Good choice with Bloodbath, Pete. My one desire, my only wish is to be EATENNNN! 🤘💀
Wonderful show!!! Please do another one!!!
Can't wait for the XTC show! One of the greats!
I hope Martin discovers the incredible magic of Free.
@analogkid2869
3 жыл бұрын
Pete frowned with that comment as we all know what a huge fan Pete is of free !
@independenceltd.
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think Martin cares for overly bluesy bands.
@analogkid2869
3 жыл бұрын
@@independenceltd. He’s also not a fan of concerts at all. That’s fine. I just wish he would elaborate and explain as to why he finds concerts “useless”. He’s entitled to his opinion, and I love him just wish he would explain it sometime as to why he feels that way? Do you like when he says “jokey” ?
@independenceltd.
3 жыл бұрын
@@analogkid2869 I just chalk it up to him being Canadian.
@analogkid2869
3 жыл бұрын
@@independenceltd. Meaning?
I've read Steve Marriott and Peter Frampton were desperate to escape their "pop idol" labels, so formed Humble Pie with the hopes of being respected for their music as opposed to their good looks. Steve said in an interview that the last thing they wanted was to be called a "SuperGroup" as the only place to go after that is down! They wanted a chance to discover themselves and whether or not they could even play well. So what was the headline in Melody Maker when the word got out - "Pop Stars form SuperGroup"!! LOL! The reason for the disjointed first two albums is that all band members agreed to be totally democratic, and NOT have a single frontman. Any one of the four who wrote a song could sing it and it would be recorded. Very noble gesture, but led to a bit of a mess, cohesion wise. Glynn Johns convinced them to focus on Steve as singer, Peter as guitarist, Greg on bass and Jerry, drums. Things got better from there until the band was eventually destroyed by , according to Jerry Shirley, heavy cocaine use by all members, but especially cocaine pyschosis in Steve. Great band, sad story.
XTC! Nice one Pete. They (well Andy Partridge) are from my home town of Swindon, Wiltshire
Witchery, great blackened thrash
I know these boys like prog and metal, but I think Fearless Flyers is at the pinnacle of jazz-funk supergroups - Nate Smith (prolific jazz sideman and leader), Cory Wong (S/T band, Vulfpeck) , Mark Lettieri (Snarky puppy) and Joe Dart (Vulfpeck)
"Ringo Starr's All Starr Band's were a sort of a supergroup, the Traveling Wilbury's were a supergroup project, can't think of anymore, some people may not think these are supergroups but to me they were."-🤔📻🎸🌐..
Beck,Bogert and Appice, now that’s a supergroup
Speaking of supergroups! How about The Firm? Great band! Both albums are excellent!
@seaoftranquilityprog
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, I mentioned them on this episode briefly.
@daveb7950
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete
@turefromfinland3264
3 жыл бұрын
Albums are not excellent, they are amazingly bad.
HSAS Sammy Hagar - lead vocals, producer Neal Schon - lead and rhythm guitars, producer Kenny Aaronson - bass Michael Shrieve - drums
'Supergroups' that never made it Forcefield: Graham Bonnet Cozy Powel Jan Akkerman Ray Fenwick Contraband: Michael Schenker Share Pedersen Tracii Guns Soul Sirkus: Neal Schon Jeff Scott Soto Dean Castronovo - Virgil Donati Marco Mendoza Grand Slam: Phil Lynott Marc Stanway Laurence Archer Damnocrazy: Sebastian Bach Ted Nugent Scott Ian Jason Bonham Velvet Revolver: Slash Scott Weiland Matt Sorum Duff McKagan
@LuchaLibertaria
3 жыл бұрын
Velvet Revolver was quite popular in the early-mid 00s. I'd say they were fairly successful.
@jake6887
3 жыл бұрын
@@LuchaLibertaria, maybe you're right about that.
@coreycrossman3447
2 жыл бұрын
There first album is classic, they made one forgettable album then Scott went back to STP and Slash started a very successful solo carrier. How she goes.
HSAS on vinyl. Sammy and Schon.
If you guys do another episode BADLANDS AND BLUE MURDER are 2 really great supergroups
Speaking of supergroups, I'd love to see Pete & Martin do an episode on their *top 10 DOWN songs.*
Great show! There was so much potential for Blind Faith. Winwood and Clapton together was such a great idea. Too bad it didn't work out. Damn Yankees was such a cool band! I'm also a fan of Bonnet. I really liked Down to Earth as a teenager.
Great show. Hey Pete, how about doing a show with bands that never used the same logo on any lp? Rush spring to mind.
For those who liked Black Country Communion should really check out California Breed!
@patriotpizzaman
3 жыл бұрын
I got that the day it came out. Not nearly in the same ballpark as BCC. Not a bad album but, it was a bit of a let down for me. I wanted BCC to be a full-time band. The one band to rule them all.
The tangent, great newer prog rock supergroup. First album The music that died alone came out in 2003 and they are still going strong.
An amazing supergroup for just one song: "Live and let live" from Timothy Leary's "You can be anyone this time around" (1970) Stephen Stills (guitar) John Sebastian (guitar) Jimi Hendrix (bass) ??? Buddy Miles (drums)
Blind Faith is often described as the first Supergroup, although arguably it was Eric Clapton’s previous band Cream.