I feel that UFO is a fairly underrated band that very few people seem to talk about despite them being fairly big back in the 70's

@gabriellarrubia1006

3 жыл бұрын

I think just about every old-school rock fan digs UFO and Schenker is huge with guitarists, but as far as popularity with newer audiences go you're probably right... I see younger fans get into Zeppelin, Sabbath, Purple, AC/DC- all kinds of 70s stuff but never UFO, oddly enough

@ConestogaCreek

3 жыл бұрын

Agree

@pablocruise9514

3 жыл бұрын

Loved Phenomenon, Lights Out and TWTWATI - thought they were the best produced. Strangers In The Night is pure magic - my favorite live album. I thought the others albums were underproduced. Schenker coming and going so much didn't help. Somewhere I read where Neil Carter talked about how Gary Moore was more organized and less wasteful in the studio and how that helped them both make more money. I think the band made a lot of mistakes over the years on the business side. But still a great band.

@1970borntorun

3 жыл бұрын

Don't get me started !! lol For me, as it's Randy Rhoads, Michael Schenker and Eddie Van Halen for Hard Rock, then everyone else :)

@aidannorris1254

3 жыл бұрын

When Pete Way died there was a decent article written in the Guardian (main stream national newspaper for those of you in the US). It was a beautifully well written tribute but so many of the comments were from people who had never heard of him. Really sad.

Flotsam and Jetsam - great riffs, vocals, hooks and layered guitar harmonies. Unique stylings. Variations in song writing.

@philyeary8809

Жыл бұрын

Saw them live w No Place for Disgrace, at a great place called the Ritz in Indianapolis aka Naptown.

Armored Saint and the John Bush era of Anthrax.

@kforcer

3 жыл бұрын

I'm with you there.

Van Der Graaf Generator. Absolutely love Peter Hammill. Unbelievable (and underrated) Prog band.

I think Uriah heep is well known, but very underated

@Veaseify

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, people know the name but couldn't list 5 of their songs off the top of their head.

@jerryattwooll4864

3 жыл бұрын

Often unfairly tagged as a 'poor man' s Deep Purple'which is very unfair.

@jerryattwooll4864

3 жыл бұрын

Swiss band Gotthard spring to mind for me. Very popular in their native Switzerland, but in my and some of my friends views should have been a major hard rock attraction in other markets. Steve Lee RIP was a great frontman and fantastic singer. Sweet, despite the plethora of hit singles are somewhat underrated by the album buying heavy rock crowd. Magnum could and should have been bigger, never made it in US where their brand of melodic pomp rock should have put them in a bigger league. From what Pete has said in past features, never really tried to break America. Diamond Head are another one. In my view had everything, real talent, possibly the most potentially talented band to come out of NWOBHM, but couldn't settle on a stable line up and consistent musical direction. Others include Legs Diamond, Angel, Starz and Moxy.

@independenceltd.

3 жыл бұрын

They had like 5 gold albums in the US.

@Veaseify

3 жыл бұрын

@@jerryattwooll4864 All the Swiss rock space was taken by Krokus :)

Agreed 💯 with Kings X Each of the three members are constantly overlooked and underrated, great records.... should have been huge.

@4themusicman

3 жыл бұрын

GREAT band.

@nelsonshuchmacherendebo7688

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed 100% man!

When Martin said Guns n'Roses is probably overrated, I could see Pete was thinking 'I don't even rate them'.

@stevenhanson1454

3 жыл бұрын

If Motley Crue is the "Captain Action" of heavy metal then Guns n 'Roses is "Dr. Evil". I agree with Pete. They are on the shelf in someone's basement but not mine. Never on my playlist.

@jimmycampbell78

3 жыл бұрын

'Appetite for Destruction' is a great album, a classic. There might have been another good album in 'Use Your Illusion' if they'd cut it down from being a double release. I actually think 'Chinese Democracy' is underrated. But they didn't release anything new for more than a decade and then haven't released anything new since 'Chinese'. To me they ended as a band when Izzy Stradlin left halfway through the Use Your Illusion tour. My own list of overrated bands from a mix of rock genres are Queen, KISS, Motley Crue, Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Oasis, Blur, Pulp. You can call any of those Dr Evil if you like.

@mutant_blues

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimmycampbell78 Blur's Damon Albarn is a very talented musician, try his collaboration with Michael Nyman on Ravenous Soundtrack, and "Mali Music" with various Malian musicians!

@jimmycampbell78

3 жыл бұрын

@@mutant_blues Damon Albarn has done some very eclectic, varied material, you can mention Gorillaz as well. However I don't like his singing voice, and I just never really got into Blur. I do own a 'Best Of' by them but I only like a handful of songs. I actually own albums by all the bands I mentioned apart from Pulp, who I just can't stand. I don't like Jarvis Cocker's singing, his lyrics or his kind of persona which is imprinted on all his songs, its hard to explain but it does nothing for me.

@mutant_blues

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimmycampbell78 I almost agree about Pulp! Sometimes they sound annoying, but they didn't start as a Brit pop band. In the early 80's they were playing new wave. In 1982 they participated in a collection with the song "What do you say?" which is a gem! Unfortunately they quickly "abandoned" this sound ...

King's X and Savatage are both in my list, also: Saga Camel Galactic Cowboys Jellyfish UFO Magnum

@fredhamilton4687

3 жыл бұрын

In agreement with Saga. Just discovered this year and they should've been bigger.

@markdodds6141

3 жыл бұрын

Jellyfish!!

@slaydesaid8741

3 жыл бұрын

Saga were pretty big in Europe, though. I love Saga's first 4 albums, where they sound truly unique (especially on the first 3 albums), after those they became much more commercial and generic.

@frank215n

3 жыл бұрын

Early 80's I really thought Shooting Star would take off.Maybe a touch too Prog.

@sarah2.017

3 жыл бұрын

@@fredhamilton4687 Their first wave, in the U.S., came with early MTV.

Great show, I could listen to you guys discuss bands and music for hours on end. Keep up the great work!

Mountain, one song everyone knows. Not a lot of people know anything else.

@scorpiorising3741

3 жыл бұрын

No doubt. Love Nantucket Sleighride

@jeffreywebb7932

3 жыл бұрын

GREAT BAND

@tonyslupe3828

3 жыл бұрын

There is a reason why. Bad music.

@michaelsalisbury1477

2 жыл бұрын

The Animal trainer and he Road?

Blue Oyster Cult is my choice of most underrated band.

@kennethschultz4910

3 жыл бұрын

Not under rated.

@SpotWorksLNC

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty big band and still here them in the radio so how can they be underrated?

@MAGNUM2F

3 жыл бұрын

7 billion people on the planet. BOC sold maybe 30/40 million albums. The same 3/4 million people account for these sales. I for example bought vinyl then all cd too. BOC has 3 songs played on radio. Ok maybe not underated to their fans but given how many rock fans there are out there, few of them rate BOC high enough to part with money. Yet many will board the popular music bandwagon and buy lesser albums like bon Jovi, U2 (FFS!), And other commercial crap.

@SpotWorksLNC

3 жыл бұрын

@@MAGNUM2F More like 25 million albums, but still a lot.

@petervanbuskirk500

3 жыл бұрын

@@SpotWorksLNC but only like two or three songs are on the radio.

Fates Warning is criminally underrated... they've been around for close to 40 years and paid their dues for them to end up touring small venues in Europe in the middle of winter (January/February), sad!

@cmiller6501

3 жыл бұрын

In a proper world, should be as big/bigger than Dream Theater!

@ScottyKirk1

3 жыл бұрын

Parallels and No Exit are the only ones I own and I love both to death.... What do you recommend for other essentials?

@cmiller6501

3 жыл бұрын

@@ScottyKirk1 A Pleasant Shade Of Gray, Disconnected, Theories of Flight,..All must haves !

@ahmadbarqawi8031

3 жыл бұрын

@@ScottyKirk1 listen to "Theories of Flight" from 2016, its my favorite album of 2010's... and you can check out Disconnected as well, both marvelous albums

@mickward7769

3 жыл бұрын

@@ScottyKirk1 I'd recommend you listen to 'Inside Out'. That followed Parallels and was very similar in style. Got criticised for being too close in fact and likely why they then went all out prog for the following record A Pleasant Shade Of Gray... Regardless, would recommend all FW but 'Inside Out' is also essential FW and should be to your liking if you loved Parallels \m/

I seen Starz and Angel on the bill at EJ Thomas center right after theyre first albums came out. I thought both of these bands would be big. Nope, now I know what happened. Thanks , great show.

Helstar - metal band from Texas in the 80's. Their third and fourth albums, "A Distant Thunder" and "Nosferatu" were conceptual proggy metal that predated what would eventually come along with Dream Theatre and Symphony X.

@independenceltd.

3 жыл бұрын

I saw Helstar open for WASP. Killer show.

@pvdguitars2951

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely!!! Fantastic band

@MSB-fj7cd

3 жыл бұрын

I totally dig Helstar.

@gabriellarrubia1006

3 жыл бұрын

That guitarist could really shred, definitely underrated

Being a Canadian, never understood why April Wine, Max Webster and The Tragically Hip were not a lot bigger in the U. S.

@bigsquisums

3 жыл бұрын

You ever heard of Gino Vannelli? He’s pretty popular in Canada, where he’s from.

@soylentgreendip

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigsquisums Best hair in rock and roll.

@bigsquisums

3 жыл бұрын

@@soylentgreendip indeed. Gregg Rolie had some great hair in the 70s as well.

@martinkulkarni3569

3 жыл бұрын

Saga and Prism two other underrated Canadian bands.

@shizuokaBLUES

2 жыл бұрын

April Wine didn’t hit it big in the US? But agreed about Max Webster and I find the Hip’s lack of success in the US puzzling, considering their massive popularity in Canada.

You picked one of the two bands that immediately came to mind for me. One is Kings X which you picked. The other one is Porcupine Tree. They should have been much bigger than they were. They have such a great catalog.

@philyeary8809

Жыл бұрын

Porcupine Tree, Opeth, Saigon Kick...

I'd Put SWEET in this catagory as well! They should have been ginormous imo!

@alexjohnston8889

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, sweet were great, the problem was the silly campy glam songs they released that they didn't write, kind of put a lot of people off and certainly didn't help them in other countries like America. The songs they wrote themselves were hard rocking and showed what a great hard rock band they could have been but sadly most of those tracks were b-sides, I think they'd have a bigger fan base amongst rock fans had they just stuck to writing their own stuff.

@BrentIraEnman

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexjohnston8889 exactly, Pete Pardo did a great ranking the Sweet albums and that's exactly what turned me on to their "Sweet spot" (pardon the pun) albums- desolation Blvd, Wink, level headed etc.

@jamesbennett1634

3 жыл бұрын

I realized that when we say underrated, often we mean overlooked.

This is really interesting, compelling and amazing discussion/show. This combination of Pete and Martin is truly remarkable. My favorite duo when it comes to in depth, critical music discussion.

@wernermoritz882

3 жыл бұрын

I would love to see some real discussion between Pete and Martin with two opinions. Actually that never happens on SOT.

Finally a chance to watch this video of the latest Popoff and Pardo show. Great choices, gents. And many of mine are listed by other commenters but some I would list - even though some may not be the type of band for SoT listeners - would be: Manassas, (the) Raspberries and the Guess Who. And if we were just talking about bands being underrated in the US, I would include The Kinks. Looking forward to your next installment. Thanks again, Martin and Pete!

Thin Lizzy and Blue Oyster Cult are easily the most underrated hard rock bands of the 70s

@WillRock07

2 жыл бұрын

UFO wants to know your location

@tednugent1100

2 жыл бұрын

Also Triumph and Trapeze

@lostinspace699

Жыл бұрын

Dio........ ,,,

@lostinspace699

Жыл бұрын

Sweet

Badlands = true stuff. And so is everything Jake does. No heavy merchandising, no big deals, but true rock.

@xdreampcs8554

3 жыл бұрын

Love that band. First album is a classic and Dusk was recorded with one take.

@ronnienose8608

3 жыл бұрын

@@xdreampcs8554 Dusk was really just a collection of demos and ideas, hence the lack of discernable lyrics throughout. I still love it though.

@xdreampcs8554

3 жыл бұрын

@@ronnienose8608 yes im well aware. Ray scatted most of the lyrics. Jake recorded almost everything one take according to Greg Chaisson. Great album nonetheless.

@josephgariano7692

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you bro

Finally some props to Kings X . They are still in my heavy rotation and it aged well. Dogman definitely is their best work. Watching these Rock and Metal KZreadrs this might be the first time of recognition and that disappoints me to no end.

This list starts with Thin Lizzy. They had a string of fantastic albums.

@ConestogaCreek

3 жыл бұрын

The Jailbreak album got tons of FM radio AirPlay at the time in the late 70s.

@kevinturchin

3 жыл бұрын

Mike MakesRight Not even their best album either.

@ConestogaCreek

3 жыл бұрын

Kevin Turchin my family got cable TV in 1978 and there was this great Thin Lizzy concert that they played over and over. Content was thin then. It was a great show. Sweaty gritty no frills hard rockin band. I live in Philadelphia area. They reminded me a little of Grand Funk and I mean that as a compliment.

@axelibrotherus3526

3 жыл бұрын

Thin lizzy is one of those bands who never actually made a bad album. There are just those who are more amazing. Prob my favourite album is vagabond of the western world.

@gypsymojo4314

3 жыл бұрын

@@ConestogaCreek "Boys Are Back in Town" got tons of airplay back then. And it was ON the "Jailbreak" album, and the title cut some, but I would not say the album as whole (or even half) got tons of play. Boston, Grand Illusion, Frampton Comes Alive, Rumors, Hotel California. THOSE albums got tons of airplay in the late 70's.

The Cult I think was highly underrated. Ian Astbry's voice is amazing and their albums kick ass. I agree with Badlands.

King's X is the ultimate underrated band. How about a ranking the albums for King's X (Sorry if you have done it already, but I did not see it)

@Mike-aka747

3 жыл бұрын

He’s not a fan of Kings X.

@jimmycampbell78

3 жыл бұрын

Pete doesn't like their singing but I agree with you completely about Kings X.

@DavysFlicks

3 жыл бұрын

He literally says in the video he's been asked a million times but doesn't have the interest or knowledge.

@IAmisMaster

3 жыл бұрын

King’s X and Galactic Cowboys for a thrashier take on that sound!

@mcnadeau

3 жыл бұрын

Was lucky to see dUg play on the Experience Hendrix tour last year.....still sounding & playing great!!

Underrated for me: XYZ, Y&T, Extreme, Triumph,

@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812

3 жыл бұрын

XYZ yeah!

@mikeimpressionsreviews9831

3 жыл бұрын

Extreme!

@LuchaLibertaria

3 жыл бұрын

Good choices, Extreme was pretty big in the early 90s tho.

@MetalAsylumNJ

3 жыл бұрын

XYZ had one of the best heaviest chainsaw guitar tones, especially on Face Down in the Gutter

@paulburrows7908

3 жыл бұрын

Popoff hates Triumph, they were one of my favorites...Triumph loves you!

Great episode - and 10/10 to Martin for bringing on King's X. Such a fantastic, underrated band. Oh, and Riot were superb as well, especially during the Guy Speranza years.

Thank you Pete for these vids! These with Martin Popoff are my faves as I'm a fan of Martin's opinions and views. Great job!

Great show love the topic, my top three grossly underrated bands. 1- Sensational Alex Harvey Band 2- Be Bop Deluxe 3- Captain Beyond

@captainbeyond7469

3 жыл бұрын

Donald Duck Alex was the man!!!!

@captainbeyond7469

3 жыл бұрын

Steve Evans Bill Nelson such an underrated guitarist. Absolute monster player as good as any of the big names.

@keithf_

3 жыл бұрын

Steve Evans Me too. Sunburst Finish and Modern Music are great albums ! Bill Nelson, a fantastic guitarist & songwriter.

@captainbeyond7469

3 жыл бұрын

@@keithf_ Was fortunate enough to see Be Bop Deluxe live on the Modern Music tour. Bill Nelson made a life long impression on me that night with his other worldly guitar skills. A true 70’s guitar god on par with any of the bigger names.

@keithf_

3 жыл бұрын

Captain Beyond I never saw BBD live sadly. I often think Bill Nelson was influenced by David Bowie's stage persona. In any case, the BBD albums rank right up there with any album Bowie released. BBD a much much underrated band.

Everyone still remembers Lynrd Skynrd (apologies for the spelling) but Blackfoot have been lost in time. Their first album is superb.

@brianallen8091

3 жыл бұрын

Amen! Reservations was an incredible album! If Skynyrd was the southern rock torch bearers, Blackfoot is the southern METAL king!

@Protometal66

3 жыл бұрын

Blackfoot is still one of my favorite bands. Saw them twice in the 80s. Once as headliners and the other opening for Ted Nugent and Cheap Trick. By the time the 90s rolled around , they were playing in small clubs. I was glad to be able to see them so close up front but I never understood why they didn't retain coliseum status.

Riot, wow! Great twin guitar sounds. Guy Sperenza, powerful singer with a Bon Scott voice like. Fire Down Under (1981) is a fantastic album with great heavy songs. Followed by Restless Breed & Born In America with Rhett Forrester bluesy voice singer, had their very good moments too. A career that deserve more than this. Thanks Pete & Martin for your great comments about Riot.

@iluvj50

2 жыл бұрын

I think Rhett had way more of a Bon Scott vibe than Guy.

Great discussion. Gotta say I love all incarnations of Riot. What a band and how many great vocalist sang for them...... Guy, Rhett, Moore, Dimeo...fantastic band and i agree with some posters below..Jon Bush in armored Saint....underated for sure... Keep up the great discussions Pete/ love your channel!!!!!!!

Shooting Star, Marillion, Saxon, Y&T, IQ, Pendragon, Poco, Saga, Triumph, Krokus

@elvinposey5251

3 жыл бұрын

Y&T yes! still doing it putting out great albums. Ten is my favorite album but Mean Streak is killer.

@michaelhein5455

2 жыл бұрын

Shooting Star is extraordinary and should have been one of the biggest acts of the 80s and beyond.

Living Color and Faith No More come to mind. Yes they had their big hit and few successful albums, but considering how much great material they had the fact their largely remembered for one big hit makes them underrated in my opinion.

@grungil7570

3 жыл бұрын

Dont forget Fishbone and Primus. These are the Funk-Rock Big 4

@kennethschultz4910

3 жыл бұрын

Living Colour. I think the reason they r under rated is bcs they were an all black metal band when black youth were not listening to metal and hate to say it but white metal listeners wouldn't listen to black groups unless it was motown. Under rated the Cult.

@freaky_j2207

3 жыл бұрын

Kenneth Schultz good point. I remember a lot of people liking cult of personality and then being turned off by the more funky elements of the band. I thought the 2nd and 3rd albums Times Up and stain were fantastic. Still listen to them.

@zeelias_zezito65

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely agreed. Living Colour singer is in my top-10 list. Faith No More is also a band with strong and original identity, but seems to me that the essence to be successful in the 80's was exactly the opposite: the more you are template, the more you get money.

@scotttaylor7220

3 жыл бұрын

Living Colour 🤘🤘

Another great show, guys! Pete, your shows keep me sane during another lockdown here in the UK

Another great and thought-provoking episode. Totally concur with Zebra being mentioned (below) in this regard, and I would also independently add Rock City Angels, Blue Murder, Little Caesar, Thunder, Fastway (original incarnation), Jellyfish, The Angels, T-Ride and Salty Dog.

Mountain is definitely underrated and should have been huge. They just couldn’t get out of their on way. Nantucket Sleightride is one of the best albums out there.

@GeoffBosco

Жыл бұрын

The leader of one of the bands I used to play is a huge Mountain fan and we used to cover Nantucket Sleighride. In fact he still occasionally pulls it out with current lineups. But he's mostly originals now. Anyway, I recently discovered family lineages that go back Nantucket and even more remarkable is that I'm a Starbuck and a Coffin (two very prominent names in the story). So, that song has special meaning to me.

Thin Lizzy almost certainly heads the list. Trouble, like others have pointed out. Clutch awesome band always a bit under appreciated. Coroner!

@patrickcrowther9195

3 жыл бұрын

joe fafara In Thin Lizzy’s case they only had themselves to blame for not breaking America. Brian Robertson gets into a bar fight just before a tour and lacerates his hand. Philip Lynott contracts hepatitis. Their US label really tried hard to make them a success but in the end just gave up on them as they were their own worst enemies. The group changes guitarists every two years or so. The lifestyles of the band members got in the way of true global success.

@philiphalpenny9761

3 жыл бұрын

@@patrickcrowther9195 Sad but true. Phil was like his pal George Best uniquely gifted but hardcore & heedlessly committed to self sabotage. Lowell George, another towering talent, hurtling headlong into catastrophe...

@orchidcarpetcleaningrp6061

3 жыл бұрын

Clutch awsome Neil Fallon best vocalist around today definitely underrated

@newavatar2947

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated here in the U.S but Lizzy had success everywhere else. However it broke Phil up because they were never big in America even though they were given opportunities. Lizzy later signed with Warner Brothers who turned all thier attention to a new band out of Pasadena, California named Van-something 🤔🤔

- Tygers of Pan Tang! They are sooo underrated

@kforcer

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely.

Cool show. In addition to Pete's last two, which are two of my all time favorites, here's my list: Shooting Star Warrior Soul Zebra Metal Church April Wine Helix

A couple of bands I still enjoy to this day... Zebra Raven (fun fact: They brought Metallica on tour in 1983)

@RickNBacker

3 жыл бұрын

Raven, absolutely! You know they have a new album out called "Metal City"?

@mattdickerson6259

3 жыл бұрын

@@RickNBacker I didn't know this. Just checked it out. John's still got it goin' on! Definitely gonna pick it up!

@jaecrowther7869

3 жыл бұрын

Rick N Backer Great album heard it yesterday. Metal church has a new one to. Metal 🤘🏻Rules

@bengalgangster

3 жыл бұрын

zebra yes

@trencher7

3 жыл бұрын

@@bengalgangster Yes Zebra. I actually listen to 3.V quite a bit. Solid.

Manfred Mann's Earth Band for me... I felt like I was in a secret society liking them back in the 70's but the 'Roaring silence', 'Watch' and 'Angel Station' were albums that I really loved and still do.

@Squirrelconga

3 жыл бұрын

🤜🤛

@darlatidwell6255

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, me too.

@michaelsalisbury1477

2 жыл бұрын

solar fire was pretty good aswell

I'm sure I'll forget some, but here's a few.. Living Colour, King's X, Badlands, Blue Murder, Saigon Kick, Warrior Soul, Dirty Looks, TNT, Extreme, and more I'm forgetting. A lot of these fall into that metal/grunge changeover bsd timing issue, while others kind of defy easy categorizstion.

So many to choose from here, but for me, ZEBRA is at the top of my list. They had the fastest selling album in Atlantic Records history, and that includes Led Zeppelin (who were also signed to their label). Zebra is also still together (45 years, same lineup) and currently working on a new album. Incredible!

Another great show, as usual ! I have to go with Camel, Caravan, and Nektar and last but not least Hawkwind.

@ytusersumone

3 жыл бұрын

Cool choises

Riot and savatage

@MetalAsylumNJ

3 жыл бұрын

Preach

@stevesnvegas9040

3 жыл бұрын

...and Armored Saint

@yoblaywan3893

3 жыл бұрын

Savatage you bet

@elvinposey5251

3 жыл бұрын

RIOT one of my fav bands up until the original singer left. Fire Down Under should have been HUGE in America!

UFO had many songs that should have been radio hits , such as Out in the Streets , Cherry , Looking Out For No. 1 , and Space Child

@elvinposey5251

3 жыл бұрын

AGREED. NO PLACE TO RUN ONE OF MY FAV SONGS. WILD WILLING INNOCENT. ONLY YOU CAN ROCK ME SHOULD'VE BEEN A BIG HIT SINGLE IN 78 FOR THEM. IT WASN'T. TRAGIC.

THE CHURCH..... criminally underrated! LOVE AND MONEY as well. Both fantastic bands, with masterclass musicianship and songwriting!

@mariok.2740

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree with The Church ...

This is great stuff! Warrior Soul. Got lumped into the grudge sound, but from New York and a few years before the alt-rock thing began. Give them a go. Lost in the grudge.

@Rabant777

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting that where you were WS were considered alongside grunge. Nice perspective.

The band Tnt are really underrated in the 80s imo, their sound in their early albums is really heavy with a little judas priest influence before changing their sound to a more unique aor rock sound in their late 80s albums, great band and still releasing music today👍

@kforcer

3 жыл бұрын

Great, great band. Knights of the New Thunder is really underrated, I don't think there's anyway that album wasn't a huge influence on power metal.

@johnnelson3665

3 жыл бұрын

Love ‘Tell no Tales’ and ‘Intuition.’ Classic Metal.

@216Numbskull

3 жыл бұрын

I concur ! TNT is a great band, and Ronni Le Tekrø a shredder. IMO the one who's really underrated from TNT and seldom mentioned in any circle is Tony Harnell. Harnell's vocals are killer!

I could listen to you two talk music all day. Fascinating couple of guys man. Fantastic

Atomic Rooster, loved ‘Death Walks Behind You’ saw them live. They should have been at a premiere theatre ala Rainbow or Hammersmith Odeon . They were playing a small college in the town of Rugby UK. Underrated for sure. Got to meet Vincent Crane after the show, he was very gracious and asked if we’d enjoyed the show.

@beboprichie

3 жыл бұрын

My favorite keyboard/organ player of all time

This was hard for me to choose, and I'm going to list these bands because they rarely play hits on Classic Rock stations. 1. Uriah Heep 2. Thin Lizzy 3. Rainbow 4. Budgie 5. Camel 6. Marillion 7. Saxon

@Stpaulus101

3 жыл бұрын

Be bop deluxe.....check out ,axe victim. Made I.n heaven .sister seagull. .blazing apostles...😎👍

@laurenzgraffilpenstein8117

3 жыл бұрын

Great acts of the 70 and early 80s heavy scene

@elvinposey5251

3 жыл бұрын

RAINBOW WAS PRETTY BIG. MY OLDER BROTHER GOT ME INTO THEM IN HIGH SCHOOL. URIAH HEEP WAS BIG IN US UNTIL 82. THE LIVE ALBUM IS STILL ONE OF MY FAVORITES. RAINBOW RISING CLASSIC! THIN LIZZY MY FAV BAND ALL VERSIONS EXCEPT JOHN SYKES WHO RUINED THUNDER & LIGHTNING. STILL A GREAT HEAVY ALBUM BUT CHINATOWN AND BLACK ROSE MY TWO FAVORITE LIZZY.

@la7dfa

Жыл бұрын

@@elvinposey5251 Have you super glued the Caps Lock?

Clutch, Warrior Soul, Mindfunk, Be Bop Deluxe, The Melvins, Camel, The Stranglers, The Church, Budgie, Anathema, Antimatter, Jane, I could go on and on but got to stop it somewhere.

@arryrocks9167

3 жыл бұрын

Warrior Soul & Mindfunk were AWESOME. However, they put out too few albums, IMO. I think that may knock them off the list. Not a bad list. Good deal.

@billydow9798

3 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Robinson great list, especially THE CHURCH! Definetly one of the best and most prolific acts around. 26 albums into their career and a new album out soon.

I have met the guys in King's X a few times. They are always engaging with their fans. I missed a concert due to having to deploy soon after 9/11 dug sent me live bootleg recordings since I missed the tour having to be stuck on the ship. Their concerts are an interactive experience for sure.

Pete! I love your Ranking The Albums series..i haven't seen anything on Klaatu from you, sorry if i missed it. Also, how about a Rarities series from each band. There's lots of good songs out there by great bands that are very obscure..like b-sides, soundtrack cuts, tribute cuts etc. Keep up the great work! Peace, Ken

It Bites from my home county of Cumbria in the UK. Great band that just didn’t get the credit they deserved. Listen to the live album‘Thankyou and Goodnight’ to see what I mean.

Speaking of Vanderhoof, Metal Church is a super underrated one.

Great show, awesome discussion. When I saw the title the first band that came to mind was Savatage. Always thought they were top shelf. Some of the truly best metal songs ever, and Criss Oliva’s guitar tone is up there among the most legendary. As much as I love their post-Streets output, the change in sound was probably confusing to people. My underrated pick would be the Brazilian power metal band Angra. They are sort of known in the US and Europe, and have dedicated followers in those places, and are big in Japan. However, whenever I see people talking about power metal as a genre their name is not mentioned. Frankly, from a musicianship point of view, that’s crazy. From a compositional point of view, it’s almost criminal. They are and have always been a much superior band than Stratovarius, Gamma Ray, Rhapsody, let alone Iron Savior, Labyrinth and all those PM acts big in the 90s and early 00s. If it weren’t for them and Kamelot, the language of melodic power metal would have gotten stale and ridden with clichés. Make sure to check them out. Kiko Loureiro and Rafael Bittencourt are one of the tightest guitar duos in all metal, listen to their stuff.

Loved your choice of Savatage. I grew up with Jon and Criss spent many nights at Morrisound Studios and the local clubs. Another band so underrated from that time period is Stranger. Were signed to Epic records opened for UFO and fell victim to record label politics and questionable management.

Agree with all 6 bands mentioned here...maybe a show on overrated bands now? Other underrated imo: Angel City Enuff z' Nuff Saga Coney Hatch Voivod(i.e. Gentle Giant syndrome i guess)

@ThrillingTwo

3 жыл бұрын

Enuff Z'Nuff writes great Rock songs.

@stevenhanson1454

3 жыл бұрын

Angel City first U.S. album I remember...I had years ago, but it got shuffled to a used record store when I was a poor student, in the eighties. Good stuff though. Every song on that was solid.

@doscwolny2221

3 жыл бұрын

The Angels(angel city) are my favourite Aussie band. Great albums also a live album of theirs ‘liveline’ is as good as made in Japan by deep purple. Everyone should check it out. Voivod is excellent as well.

@robsongremio

3 жыл бұрын

What is the Gentle Giant syndrome?

I think Riot was a great band with each singer they had! Kind of just like a guest vocalist feeling looking back after Reale... #PetePardoArmy #PetePardoNation #BigMeatPete #SplashYourSeaOfTranquilityAllOverMyFace

@davehall6692

3 жыл бұрын

Great band, one of the few US bands of the time to run with the NWOBHM hordes. Saw them in the UK a few times once supporting Saxon and they gave it their best shot.

@laurenzgraffilpenstein8117

3 жыл бұрын

Forerunners of the NWoBHM and well received by that movement

@offtherealm5438

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if Riot got mixed up in the shuffle next to Quiet Riot? If one would say "have you checked out Riot?...the answer might have been "The bang your head guy's??

@laurenzgraffilpenstein8117

3 жыл бұрын

@@offtherealm5438 this was a bad thing for Riot, that success of quite Riot with their hit single Cum on feel the noise

@davehall6692

3 жыл бұрын

@@laurenzgraffilpenstein8117 Yeah, shame really, in my opinion the New York Riot were the superior band.

I'd put Cry Of Love above Badlands- two amazing albums. And a band that was huge in Europe but never translated in North America- REEF. Got to see them in a tiny club in Vancouver on the Glow tour. Incredible.

The Pretty Things. Heavier than The Stones during the British Invasion. Ahead of The Kinks and The Who doing concept albums/rock operas. Still made HEAVY albums till the end (check out Balboa Station) - their last record just came out, a few months after we lost Phil May.

Ram Jam everybody knows the band for Black Betty from their first album but the second one took the band to another level its better than the debut and sadly never got recognized.

@tomfisher2103

3 жыл бұрын

Ram Jam merits an episode of their own.

@janspiljard

3 жыл бұрын

Second that.

I like a little drop of Kings X myself, although over her in England I've always thought of them as Kings Cross.

@mahogany174

3 жыл бұрын

I always wondered about that especially with their Christian aspect I.e. Jesus’s crucifix. Perhaps I am looking too deep.

when i first saw the title of your video, my two thoughts were starz and angel...so thank you mr. popoff...you could possibly say that be bop deluxe was underrated.....they were amazing...triumph also....personally i think the shirts were very underrated, but that might have something to do with my time at cbgb's....but i do love their three albums....anyway...here's to all musicians everywhere...peace and playing good music always...rocky

Back in the day, I always thought Tesla was very underrated. Other mentions: Saigon Kick, Overkill, Night Ranger, Extreme. I have to admit I had forgotten about Love/Hate, will have to revisit their albums, thanks Martin. Edit: Why Do You Think They Call it Dope, I had forgotten about this song from Love/Hate, the bass is insane in this song, I think Pete will like this, same as the drums on "One More Round".

BOC and Thin Lizzy. Yeah, people know them....but they only know maybe 3 or 4 of their songs in spite of each band having lots of terrific songs. I know these 2 bands don't fit the criteria for "underrated" set forth by Pete and Martin but they're the first 2 bands that come to mind.

@independenceltd.

3 жыл бұрын

BOC had two platinum and 4 gold albums.

@b2tall239

3 жыл бұрын

@@independenceltd. Yeah...and most people can still only name 3 or 4 of their songs.

@ezioauditore7427

3 жыл бұрын

Two of my favorite rock bands

@kevinking8458

3 жыл бұрын

Silverhead,Quartz,Detective totally underated

@philyeary8809

Жыл бұрын

​@@b2tall239Mirrors and I Love the Night are phantastic, Buck rules!!

King's X, hell yeah. It shouldn't be surprising that they were saddled with being a Christian band at first, considering both Doug Pinnick and Jerry Gaskill played in Phil Keaggy's band (Phil being one of the few Christian artists known for his guitar work, especially in his 1960s/1970s band Glass Harp) and met Ty Tabor when his band opened for Keaggy, but they were never a "worship" band like Petra, Carmen, or so many of the bands that followed in their wake--even at their most overtly Christian, King's X were more interested in criticizing its history of violence against outside thinkers (Pleiades is about the execution of Galileo at the hands of the Roman Catholic Inquisition) or its current day hypocrisies (Mission, which questioned the real "mission" of preachers, televangelists in particular). Even the song about "not looking for a one night stand," Goldilox, has some added weight to it since Doug came out as gay in 1997, considering the stereotype of homosexuals being incapable of any form of monogamy (which still seems to persist despite years of fighting for the right to marriage, an institution heterosexuals take so far for granted that 50% of theirs end in divorce). And I still love the line "this is church, this is state, rock and roll amazing grace" from Wonder.

@jamesfetherston1190

3 жыл бұрын

“ about the execution of Galileo at the hands of the Roman Catholic Inquisition” Galileo was not executed.

@kevintrjohnson

3 жыл бұрын

James Fetherston Weird, the lyrics even say “burned his body” as if he was, but your right. Pleiades is definitely a homage to Galileo, but they don’t specifically name him. They also make the mistake of claiming he was saying the world was spherical when he was actually putting forth the heliocentric model of the earth revolving around the sun. Maybe they were compositing multiple historical scientists into one, or maybe they were just mistaken.

@kevintrjohnson

3 жыл бұрын

James Fetherston he was, of course, tried for heresy.

@jobriathboy

2 жыл бұрын

SO.MUCH.THIS. CRIMINALLY underrated, as a band and as individual artists...

@katesjanice

2 жыл бұрын

So what the heck is wrong with singing about your faith - if you're a Christian, that is. Bands sing about Buddhist and Hindu concepts, and other faith/religious materials in their songs. But, shhhh if you're a Christian. For Heaven's (oops) sake, keep it under wraps or your recording will be on the scrapheap. Hypocrisy at its ugliest. Can't folks just enjoy the music and poetry? No one thinks they're going to convert you through a song. But faith is a very important aspect of life to many people, so why shouldn't they sing about it?

Good call on Kings X. I’ve adored that band forever. Savatage too. They were painting into a weird corner when Gutter Ballet came out. I saw them when they toured with Nuclear Assault and Testament. They didn’t really fit and I was hoping to hear When The Crowds are Gone or something but they weren’t about to bust out a Concert Grand in front of that crowd. They could kick ass when they wanted to, but I much preferred the mellower tracks. I would add Warrior Soul, The Big F and Anvil to that list.

The angles face to face !!!! THE MOST underrated album of AllTIME 4x platinum australia 1978 Face To Face

I agree with Martin...I know from past episodes Pete isn't a fan...But I love King's X...no bad albums in my opinion and the album Ear Candy is sooo yummy....gave me a rock and roll cavity🤘😝

My 3 (in no order): - "Sweet": They are hands-down one of THE most under-rated bands ever, especially their heavy stuff which, for some reason, never got any airplay. Yeah they had a handful of "pop" hits but IMO they should have been HUGE in America. They were every bit as good AND as talented as Queen, again IMO. - "Shooting Star": Another great band that no one knows existed, until they hear one of their hit songs (like like "Hollywood", "Hang On For Your Life", "Flesh and Blood", "Last Chance", etc)... then it's like, "WOW!! I remember that song... is that who made it?? I had no idea." lol - "Wishbone Ash": They influenced classic rock legends (like Van Halen, Lynyrd Skynyrd and Thin Lizzy) to heavy metal giants like Metallica and Iron Maiden, to progressive rock monsters like Dream Theater... yet no one EVER talks about them (or their phenomenal music).

@diannecarpenter7718

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you!!🎤🎸🎵🥁

@Heepster69

3 жыл бұрын

Sweet were awesome during the mid 70s, early metal

@backpages9885

3 жыл бұрын

Literally clicked on this video with Sweet in mind. There aren't many bands you can find that go through the transformation they did in the 70's, and had great tunes with each sound (bubblegum pop, Glam rock, hard rock, progressive rock), even today most people just say Ballroom Blitz, Fox on the Run, and Love is Like Oxygen, It's really too bad.

@abelincoln5698

3 жыл бұрын

I agree about Sweet. My sister had their records around the house when I was a kid and I loved that band. And not just Little Willy or Fox on the Run . Deep cuts are great

@MAGA-kv1nj

3 жыл бұрын

@Donald Duck Nothing silly about it, actually. All 4 members of Sweet were able to both write and play their own music, and all four were legit lead singers with vocal harmonies that rivaled and influenced Queen (yes, Sweet was around first), while musically they were every bit as talented, if not more so. This article sums it up much better than I ever could: espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/24200/the-truth-about-kobe-bryant-in-crunch-time

I’d not heard of Love /Hate. Wow! Blackout in the RedRoom is an amazing video and a brilliant performance! They are high energy and literally bouncing off the walls. Reminds me of the energy of Living Color doing ‘ Cult of Personality’. Great show!

Pete this segment is my new favorite ! Very informative and reminiscent loved every minute of it!👍🏼👍🏼

Sensational Alex Harvey Band (Maybe too eclectic for some) - Amazing front man with a really solid band backing him up Derringer - Maybe could have used a top end singer but exceptional guitar work Anything with Johnny Winter

@treffbennett6534

3 жыл бұрын

Currently blasting Johnny's "Second Winter" and oh my lord does Winter peel paint with blistering solos and golden riffs......great vocals too! He and Edgar just drip with musicality-if there are two more talented brothers in rock and roll, I haven't heard it! Great mention!

Suggestion for rant: lineup changes that had the biggest impact for better or worse

LOVE LOVE LOVE !!! KingsX, I have all their stuff and have seen them a million times in concert, same with RIOT for me Way Underrated, great show guys !!!! keep up the fantastic work.

Speaking of Jim Morrison, Martin, as a fellow Canadian, I'm sure you agree that "The Tea Party" (from Windsor, Ontario, Canada) is a CRIMINALLY underrated band!!! They really need more exposure. They released insanely amazing albums throughout the 90's and 2000's!

@progger53

3 жыл бұрын

They sure were a great band. I sent Ray manzarek a copy of their videos DVD. And the doors asked Jeff Martin to be their lead singer for the Doors of the 21st century and he turned them down.

Don’t forget the first Riot album Rock City its a masterpiece ! Riot V The current line up with singer Todd Michael Hall is awesome. The 2 latest studio albums Unleash the fire and Armour of light are masterpieces too.

@laurenzgraffilpenstein8117

3 жыл бұрын

Riots earlier output from 77 to 84 is amazing!!!

Two of my favorite, UFO and Y&T, both underrated. Not here but in general.

I loved the first two love hate albums when I was a teenager living in a small seaside town. Ten years later they came to that town and I went to this tiny club to see them and they were awesome. They had Jon E Love on guitar, so was just amazing. I got to meet Jizzy Pearl at the bar and he was a really great guy. I told him that I lived there when the first two albums came out and they were the soundtrack to my life through some tough times and he was very humble and loved the fact that I'd had such a great night. I was drenched in sweat from dancing my ass off, which is great as rock and roll is dance music and I love heavy music that has a groove to it. I agree, great great band that I never thought I'd ever see them live in the UK. It still makes me smile now to think about that night. That is what rock and roll is and should always do. Thanks guys.

Great choices. Love/Hate were one of the bands that got me into rock and metal; love Kings X, too. Canadian band I Mother Earth should have been huge. Pretty big in Canada by all accounts, but virtually unknown here in England, even though they were hyped back in 1993 when they first came out and even played Reading Festival that year. They were hard rock, funk and a good dose of prog thrown in....kind of a progressive, more metallic version of Jane's Addiciton. A touch of Soundgarden as well. Their first two albums with original vocalist Edwin are classics as far as I am concerned; flawless.

Late in on this episode but for me Big Star, Sweet, Slade (in the US they were extremely overlooked) Moxy, April Wine, Heavens Edge, Fastway, Badlands, Tyketto, the list just goes on...

@donnaschimming

3 жыл бұрын

Sweet, Slade, April Wine, and TRULY Fastway!!!! I saw them open for AC/DC and honestly David King's voice is up there with RJD.

Another amazing underrated band was Australia’s own Radio Birdman. They had the incredible guitar work of Dennis Tek. They had hard hitting anthems like “Do the Pop” but they also did dreamy/dark style tunes in the realm of The Doors. Check out their compilation “Essential Birdman” on KZread.

@Gunther-pr8jd

3 жыл бұрын

Great frontman in Rob Younger, too. He also shined in The New Christs.

@drummer78

3 жыл бұрын

Gunther 8544 Yes, another awesome band!

@john0691

3 жыл бұрын

High Number Amazon has a doc on them just a great band

@drummer78

3 жыл бұрын

John Robinson Really? Cool, I will check that out. Thank you.

@I-Ren-Zero

3 жыл бұрын

great band.. as influenced by BOC as the The Stooges and the MC5

I'm glad you bring up Riot Pete. Together with Y&T's Earthshaker, my favourite metal albums of all time.

Metal Church! To me very underrated, you guy's can probably do a 10 part series in this subject, but I can go on and on and probably forget a few, Trouble comes to mind, also Death Angel, Sacred Riech, Voivod, too many to name, another band I loved was Urge Overkill! Keep up the great work Pete, awesome channel

Been singing the praises of Fire Down Under for almost 40 years. Just a great, kick-ass record!

@tama7734

3 жыл бұрын

Should be on every list

@jeffknudson9754

Жыл бұрын

Guy Speranza from RIOT was an incredible singer. Saw them in ‘81 promoting Fire Down Under, when they opened for Frank Marino & Triumph (The Power Of Rock & Roll & Allied Forces tours, respectively). Interestingly, Guy left RIOT disillusioned with the Rock & touring life, ultimately becoming a Christian. Later he moved with his family to Florida and sadly passed away in 2003 due to pancreatic cancer. Check out the excellent live recording of RIOT’s Road Racin’ on 1980’s Castle Donington: Monsters Of Rock album; also featuring great live songs by Touch, April Wine, Saxon, Scorpions & Rainbow (Graham Bonnet phase).

Some other underrated acts (to me anyway): Big Star, Warren Zevon, Spin Doctors, Rockpile (most of Nick Lowe and Dave Edmunds' early solo albums were essentially Rockpile albums).

@Ianmackable

3 жыл бұрын

Spin Doctors' first album sold five million copies in the USA.

I love Kings X so I was happy to hear Martin talk glowingly about them. A band I like their debut that should of been big was the band Giant

I'm glad you said Riot. One of my favorite bands and I think they never really made a bad album in spite of all the line up changes and management and record label troubles....and yeah Thundersteel is one of my favorites...that and Fire Down Under are perfect albums.

@Nick-qf7vt

3 жыл бұрын

Amen! Riot shits all over the most popular bands.

I've always found Wishbone Ash to be one of the most underrated bands out there. Argus is a masterpiece.

@keithrulong6172

3 жыл бұрын

Thank God they never broke up, and sre still kicking butt!

@keithf_

3 жыл бұрын

Keith Rulong Who never broke up ? Wishbone Ash ? Big band bust-up. Only 1 of the 4 original members is still there. Loved the band in the 1970s. Much less good since then, although their latest release 'Coat of Arms' is something of a return to form.

@keithrulong6172

3 жыл бұрын

@@keithf_ correct Wishbone Ash never broke up. 51 years and still going. Granted only 1 original member left. But so what? As long as I can go to a club and hear their music I'm happy!

@keithf_

3 жыл бұрын

Keith Rulong Yeah ... but for me ONLY the original line-up matters. Although There's The Rub and New England (with Laurie Wisefield) were fantastic albums. PS Favourite track is Throw Down The Sword, which I've always felt Andy Powell completely murders when playing live. Just my personal opinion.

@keithrulong6172

3 жыл бұрын

Too many favorites to list. As far as I'm concerned Andy Powell taught me how to play guitar.

Y&T, KING'S X, THE TEA PARTY, GOLDEN EARRING, ELOY, BIGELF, ALEX HARVEY BAND, ANGEL, FRANK MARINO/MAHOGANY RUSH, GRAND FUNK RAILROAD, TRIUMPH, SAVATAGE, MOUNTAIN, WISHBONE ASH, SAVOY BROWN, RIOT, MANFRED MANN'S EARTH BAND...

@kennethschultz4910

3 жыл бұрын

Triumph definately. The problem is u can't find there albums here.

@ledzep9501

3 жыл бұрын

@@kennethschultz4910 you can't find any?Why is it hard? Get albums from the internet Kenneth. You can find all of their works...in good prices.

@kennethschultz4910

3 жыл бұрын

I prefer buying the vinyl from the store. Don't like to wait plus if you buy online there's always a chance they get damaged.

@ledzep9501

3 жыл бұрын

@Steve Evans With people unfortunately only knowing Radar Love (which is a great song by the way), is a real shame, because they have a tone of incredible albums with marvellous songs. GE are truly one of the most unique bands but also most underrated of all time. A band full of heart and passion.

Love/Hate 'Blackout In The Red Room' is an absolute belter of an album. Saw them at the pretty tiny Borderline in London, early 90s...a raucous, sweaty, ripsnorter of a gig...remember it like it was yesterday

The first Love/Hate LP and the first Badlands LPs are two of my all time favs! My band at the time “Dirty Deal” aka Falcon was produced by John Palumbo of Crack the Sky. This was 87-91. Recorded a great demo in Baltimore, showed cased at the Cat Club in the Lower East Side in 1990 for Dee Anthony and got absolutely nowhere because of the Grunge thing.....I’m still alive and playing guitar a lot here in FL. Sometimes things don’t work out but you do what you love because you love it! 🎸

Always puzzled that the British band ,Thunder were not huge in the States. Terrific band. Seem them many of times over the years. Great lead singer. Maybe Grunge killed them ?

1. Wildhearts 2. Hanoi Rocks 3. Golden Earring

@kennethschultz4910

3 жыл бұрын

The Dutch band Golden Earring wasn't really under rated as they have been huge in Europe 4 five decades and were popular for 5 yrs here twice.

@elvinposey5251

3 жыл бұрын

HANOI ROCKS TWO STEPS ALBUM IS MY FAV SHOULD'VE MADE THEM HUGE. STILL ONE OF MY FAV ALBUMS. JUST MADE A DVD OFF KZread OF THEM LIVE IN 83.

Absolutely agree on Badlands ... was lucky enough to see them live with Tesla & Great White; they were AMAZINGLY good on stage too.

Great discussion... embarrassed to say I've never even heard of Starz, I need to check em out. To add to the underrated list, I'd add Warrior Soul ( those first 3 albums!!), and to a lesser extent Y&T