Super Simple Zero Adjustment Profitable setup by Kundan |
"Simple Strategy Works if mixed with Discipline of following Rules" is the mantra of Kundan, Full Time trader who has shared one of his profitable yet simple strategy with us and backtested it for last couple of months.
Backtested on Stockmock Simulator: www.stockmock.in/#!/simulator
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Another Gem by StockMock., after Calendar spread adjustment by vineet sir! Kudos Nitish bhai👍..Very well explained and articulated by Kundan!
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind words Brother 🙏
@pranaymahajan172
26 күн бұрын
Sir can you please share the Link for Callender spread video
@thetradingscholarr
26 күн бұрын
@@pranaymahajan172 Simply search Samco Kundan, you'll get it
Attention to details is brilliant … discussion on skew and theta to Vega is insightful. Not often talked about
Just 2 things noticed if someone wants to try this strategy… For 1st few trades.. est margin 2.6L Last 2 trades.. it was 5L So, capital requirements are extremely volatile… not possible for a normal retail trader with fixed capital to deploy this… Also, that extra CE leg for far OTM to manage skew will not always be possible to buy/exit due to liquidity issues… Kundan is extremely disciplined… thanks for detailed explanation.
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Hey Vishal Yes deployed margin will fluctuate depends on VIX and volatility but I recommend not to do positional option selling who have less than 10L capital And that extra CE Leg you have to buy just 1 lot, trust me if you're choosing any 100 strikes in Nifty (biweekly), liquidity isn't going to be an issue You can easily buy & sell And do implement it on paper or forward test for few days and let me know your queries after that
@vishalamle8330
Ай бұрын
@@thetradingscholarr Thanks a lot for all the clarification… will definitely do back and forward test for different VIX and periods…
@AashviNamdev
29 күн бұрын
Abey bhai February lot size50 tha isliye 5lakh margin hai
@vishalamle8330
27 күн бұрын
@@AashviNamdev thanks bhai 🙏… lot size change bhul gaya tha me.
Please keep the speaker window little bigger else looks like listening to ppt Thanks for the video
Thankyou Nitish and Kundan. Would love to see Kundan soon with next strategy.❤
Very deep understanding 🎉
@thetradingscholarr
6 күн бұрын
Thank you sangam ji
One of the best GEM on youtube, thanks for such valuable and wonderful episode by Kundan Bhai and Nitish bhai. Pls make a follow up video for quarries and doubts. One complaint with Nitish bhai is 'high interval between 2 videos' please make videos frequently. We really missing such valuable content.
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for your kind words Keval Kumar ji Means a lot🙏🥰
thankyou sir sir waiting for butterfly from tandon sir part 3 stockmock is awesome value for me
Very nice.. he digested the market
Very nice strategy.....thanks for this podcast
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Thanks Chandan Ji
Nice Strategy , Thanks Kundan and Nitish ❤❤❤
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Thank you Murali ji, your appreciation means a lot
This is fantastic! I love the adherence to the rules that Kundan follows. Great discipline and trading psychology on display here. Thanks Nitish for doing this. Also like you mentioned, would be great to have the RR feature on StockMock.
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words brother Means a lot to me Grateful 🙏❣️
just fantastic
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much sir
great podcast.
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Thank you Vijay ji
Awesome
Kundanji you are honest to admit that you took biweekely trades through Vivek Bajaj ka show. Good,
This is nice strategy with very less MTM which helps to keep the psychology intact….. but i have few questions:- 1) Capital required is close to 2.6 lakh but how much capital is required to be kept for margin requirement so broker do not close our trade. 2) What if there is huge IV spike due to big gap down…because the t+0 line will move down. 3) You need to have other strategy along with it other wise it is very difficult to get 30% return in a year. What is its accuracy??? Because even if you are profitable 50% of the time and you trade 52 weeks in a year you will make 13% only in a year…
@prashanthireddy9381
Ай бұрын
yes need bacttested data
@Kindzora
29 күн бұрын
Bilkul sahi baat .. pehli baat 50% time to 1:1 nhi milta, agar milta bhi hai to 50% to Stop loss hit hota hai...
Brilliant
Sabse best video ❤
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Thank you so Sanjay Shah ji 🙏❣️
sirji one correction in trade set up buy 10 lots of put 100 points away from sold leg instread of buy 10 lots of put 300-350 points away from sold ledg(at hedge side)
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Yes that's a type mistake, thanks for correction 🙏
Yah Sir bahut hi badhiya hai❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Lajawab Simple but effective
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Shukriya sir❤
Thanks
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Welcome Sir
Please make a video with Kundan on BATMAN Strategy and it's Adjustments.
@thetradingscholarr
6 күн бұрын
I've already shot with Rohit Katwal yesterday, Monthly Batman Strategy will be live on 2nd august
very conservative strategy . thnxxx
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Conservative but can give consistent profit
Seems to be good expiry day strategy when you define support and resistance and play in between that area with swings are in control great strategy
@thetradingscholarr
6 күн бұрын
Yes sir, It's a peaceful option selling
Excellent; pl make 2nd part for Pair trading or Ratio
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
You can check my Samco latest podcast there I've shared my Ladder strategy
Thank you both for the sharing the setup. My question - if the setup runs until Wednesday and by 3 pm is near to edge of selling leg, what should be the approach ? Cos it may be in 0.5% profit but is near to selling leg and next day a gap up can wipe the profit and give 0.5% to 3% loss. Should we strictly follow the rule and take the loss? Or can a stop loss be engaged to resist the loss to 0.5% on gap up / down scenario?
It is impossible that there is more decay in biweekly than in weekly. Time value of the options contract is directly proportional to the square root of time left. Whatever decay happens in the entire 14-7 days (sqrt(14)-sqrt(7)=1.1, just the expiry day will have almost the same amount of decay (1)
@thetradingscholarr
6 күн бұрын
I know this formula, in % terms theta is more in weekly options, but in absolute terms there will be always more decay in Bi weekly options, if you don't agree let's bet for something and discuss on zoom, ready?
Kundan Sir ❤ Awesome knowledge
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Thank you Gagan Sir
For biweekly there is always difference price difference in buyer and seller price which never reflects in stock mock because stock mock takes OHLC data of one minute while backtesting.... Trust when MTM is 0.5 % while exiting it will be actually 1 % or more
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
If you trade 100 strikes and that too in Nifty, I don't think there is any major slippage upto 2 CR, so you shouldn't be worry about slippage Trust me, you can execute your order smoothly
@coolmonkey5269
Ай бұрын
@@thetradingscholarr sir which is best strategy. im confuse
Very good podcast...learn lot of things.....Vineet sir butterfly session lao bhai....
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much 🙏
Please add Stock option also
Nice video, We want another podcast with arshit .
Dear sir, thanks for motivation. But I challenge one thing that every week nifty moves 300 away, in this case evey time you have to take exit, since it will touch your breakeven , once you check sir, i am doing iron codor but with adjustment since three years
Nice kundan sir ❣️💯
Looks straight and simple. With all the rules followed with discipline, the only parameter that can make this setup a positive expectancy one is winning ratio. For how much time have you backtested or forward tested this strategy? And how much is the winning ratio? Appreciate your articulation of the strategy and all scenarios.
@hindubyheart
Ай бұрын
Positive expectancy is attributable to RR as well apart from Win ratio
@monishaswani7402
Ай бұрын
@hindubyheart yes that is correct. It is already said in the rules that rr is 1:1, that's why i don't have any questions there. The winning ratio can only be found by backtesting and forward testing, which is not explicitly mentioned in the video, hence the question.
@hindubyheart
Ай бұрын
@@monishaswani7402 SL is 0.5% and Tgt is 1%
@hindubyheart
28 күн бұрын
@@monishaswani7402 RR as per the video is 1:2 as SL is 0.5% and Tpt is 1%
Sir inko phir se Lao naye set up se sath sahi me a to holygrail hai koy mane ya na mane par me to manuga Hats off 👏 you Phir se lana aapki jimmedari hai😅
Since you said US markets, would this also work in ES mini or NQ options?
gurudev ❤❤💎🙏
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Shukriya sir
Instead of 300 point aways rule. Please give interms of delta of strike price. Points wise rule is absurd
Implement feature of 1:1 in stockmock
NICE SIR.. WATING FOR BUTTER FLY TONDON
I tried to backtest this strategy and for full of 2023 the strategy could not find trade based on the rules given, except for 2023 Dec (1 trade) which resulted in .5% loss.
@marketlearner7311
24 күн бұрын
What uthis strategy not given any Trade
@LivingThroughOptions
23 күн бұрын
@@marketlearner7311 Yeah no trade with the given strategy. Since VIX was low you could not R:R 1:1 with 300 pt difference between ATM - sold call and ATM - sold put for 2023 - other than dec 23 where we had 0.5% SL hit around election results.
If 1:1 rnr is not possible at the time of deployment then which is the next safest strategy to deploy 😊
👍
This will work only when iv is high with big premium
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Yes It is right that it works beautifully in HIGH IV scenario, but practice it so that in high IV you can trade this
Bring Kundan sir 2nd time must
My name is also kundan I am also a trader😊😊
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Hii Kundan How are you?
Unfortunately I have noticed one issue with all strategies discussed even before. We are concerned with profit percentage on the capital deployed. Where as shouldn't this be profit percentage on the full capital available unless the person is using 100% capital at all times.
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Yeah you have a genuine point, but as I've mentioned in the video that strategy needs no adjustment, so keeping any surplus money isn't necessary. If you deploy 10 lots, it'll require around 2.5L margin, but I'm keeping 3L as position sizing per set, still you'll make 1% easy
in the slide.. PE side buy mentioned 300-350 away from the sold leg … is that correct or buy leg be only 100 point away from sell leg… confirm plz
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
It was typo mistake, buying leg sirf 100 points dur hi rhega
GOOB BUT MOST OF THE TIME WE WONT GET 1.1 R R
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
If India vix is above 14, you'll get 1:1 RR all the time
Make in english or pls add subtitles
सर यह फीचर डाल दीजिए कि रिक्स रिवॉर्ड देने पर डिस्टेंस बता दे स्टॉकमाक
600 points range and 1:1 RR both are not possible to get when premiums are low
Sleepage and brokerage count karo
@thetradingscholarr
6 күн бұрын
Slippage ni hota jyada, and there is just 4 legs (total 8 order) for one week I don't think jyada hoga
Sir position kaise exit karenge sari
@thetradingscholarr
6 күн бұрын
Market order exit kr skte ho, koi issue ni aayega
BUT AT ACTUAL SIDE WHEN YOU TAKE REAL TRADE YOU DONT GET 1:1 R/R
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
If INDIA VIX is above 13, you can easily get 1:1 RR in 700 points range, Stockmock has simulator feature you can use and check And yes you'll get 1:1 RR for sure Try it once
Bhaiya ... MKT me naye hi kya??? Fri- Sat me jya theta decay hoga? Kisne kaha ??? Bhai MkT me kahi pe bhi easy money nhi hai ..... Yeh naye bacche log sochate hai k Sat-Sun theta decay jyada hota hai ....
@thetradingscholarr
6 күн бұрын
To aap btaiye sir ki saturday sunday , 2 din k liye theta ni aata kya?
@1122dhaval
6 күн бұрын
@@thetradingscholarr bilkul nahi... Aisa hota toh sab straddle aur strangle bech dete
I think unka naam paul Tudor Jones hai !!!
Vineet sir ko ek baar aur bulao 😂😂
Show this person's ITR so we know how much profit he made with this strategy.
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Dear Firoz I'm open to share my last 2 year PnL, but i've never said that i trade only this strategy, i trade more than 20 strategy depends on market dynamics And if you think it's not profitable, can you do forward testing for 3 months on paper, and share Trade report? I'll take down this video if data isn't positive and share my PnL as well, Deal???
@firozpatel6072
Ай бұрын
@@thetradingscholarrBother tum pehle trader ho jo 20+ strategy use krta hai market mai 😂
Better to backtest with python
@dhirajkhanna-thebeardedguy
Ай бұрын
Is there any API available through which you could do this?
@Cosmochill-il7pt
Ай бұрын
@@dhirajkhanna-thebeardedguy without backtest results, it is dangerous. But manual backtest is also possible if you cannot code,
Agar over night a geya too !! Morning mY to Katt lunga !!
This is so silly, with this strategy you may expect a positive single digit return that too if you are lucky and there are people calling this a gem!
Yaar all said and done,26 minutes h6i Gaye abhi strategy start nahi hua. Dear ye kahani wo kahani, log ye kehte, log wo kehte hai. Keep it short. If you want to increase your viewership please cut things short. Believe me.
Sirji it takes 82 lots brokerage+other charges is 1900 deploy capital 260000 profit. 2600 it is actually 700 which is 1% annually 12% No loss is calculated.
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
First of all there are brokers like Finvasia, Kotak Securities who charge 0 brokerage and even SAS Online charge monthly 999 brokerage, and above all you're executing only 8 orders in week so i don't think any trader punch less than 10 orders in a week. so if you practice this strategy and you get profit which i believe that you'll Then brokerage should not be the issue, and charges are fixed expense if you increase capital upto 15-20 L profit ratio will be high I hope it makes sense to you now
No one buys 10 lots in America (small retail traders). Please don’t promote this strategy. Small folks could lose big if the move is sudden on unhedged side.
@thetradingscholarr
6 күн бұрын
So which non directional strategy will not give me loss if there is big sudden move, I'm waiting for your reply
@markl69
2 күн бұрын
@@thetradingscholarr you have lots to learn to teach
@monishaswani7402
2 күн бұрын
Which is the unhedged side here? Both sides are hedged here.
Bhai ye kisko laaye ho ...time waste vineet tondon sir ko bulao😢😢😢
Bekar podcast
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Dear Rahul ji, can you please elaborate why did you say 'Bekar Podcast' what you didn't like? if you think this strategy isn't profitable then please prove with factual data i'll take down the video. If it's not about the profitability of the strategy, please explain other aspects too so that i can improve myself Waiting for your reply
All through the year 2023 vix was very low then we wouldn't be able to trade at all and yu will sit with only 7 percent ROI from your Gsec bonds only and enjoy life with your silly and misleading podcasts.You can fool a few people but not everyone. There are lot better setups then your silly and impractical setup.
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
If you think one strategy works in every market scenario, then you should work on your mindset, you must be having multiple setup to do a full time trading so that you can deploy trades depends on the situation and make consistent money I trade more than 20 setups but in different market conditions And as I've already said in the video that if all rules are satisfied, then it can generate consistent returns But if there are scenarios, where conditions aren't meeting, deploy different strategy Expand your horizon rather than criticising without any base All the best
Third class podcast ...1.50 hours poora waste ...
@rugvedk
Ай бұрын
kyun wast e hua? Kya sahi nahi laga aapko?
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Brijesh ji, please forward test this strategy for 6 months, and if you don't make decent returns (Do only paper trading) Then I'll personally ask Nitish bhai to take down this podcast Sounds good , right? Without putting any efforts, criticising anyone without any factual data is the easiest job to do Anyway thanks for your support 🙏
@rugvedk
Ай бұрын
@@thetradingscholarr I have completed backtest for last 2 months on stockmock. We won't earn anything because all profit will vanish paying taxes. (not considering brokarage as I am using FlatTrade)
@amitstg
Ай бұрын
Brijesh bhai ko is baat ka appreciation milna chahiye ki unhone third class podcast hone ke bawjood bhi 1,50 Hrs poora diya 😁
@Sumit-rz7yt
Ай бұрын
@@thetradingscholarr sir isme capital kitna rakhna chahiye
Not that good strategy
Simple but super
@thetradingscholarr
Ай бұрын
Thank you for the appreciation sir 🙏
Kundan ka twitter handle do pls
@1681chandan
26 күн бұрын
@Scholartrading
Kundan sir pl give me your mai id
Hi Kundan. I have a very specific question w.r.t Gsec which I am unable to figure out Please share your email id to contact.