Quick word on Kaioken: It is not a transformation. It is a power-up. It will not be part of this series BUT I will give it its own video in the future, probably as a Dragon Ball In Depth video.

@darthazul2143

5 жыл бұрын

Get-Er done Geekdom!

@eggnokio

5 жыл бұрын

😍😍Literally right when I commented about the Kaioken, low key my favorite attack

@gamer2617

5 жыл бұрын

Why not do a "Dragon Ball Techniques Guide" For Kaioken or the Genki Dama etc

@TheOne-sp8vx

5 жыл бұрын

@@gamer2617 he already did it, strongest techniques in dragon ball or something like that

@keysoulhatsune8746

5 жыл бұрын

you didn’t talk about bardock super saiyan

Major ways to go SSJ: 1: through lots of training and a traumatic event 2: Tingly back energy 3: S-cells 4: Collect the 7 Chaos Emeralds. xD

@shadowking2153

5 жыл бұрын

You forgot push ups sit-up and plenty of juice

@Brookhaven_evil

5 жыл бұрын

Sit ups and Plenty of Juice

@AndreB23

5 жыл бұрын

100 push-ups. 100 sit-ups. 100 squats. Then a 10 km run. Every. Single. Day.

@joonashannila8751

5 жыл бұрын

r/wooosh

@RobinSwede

5 жыл бұрын

I thought you were gonna make some crappy juice reference

Nobody: Geekdom: If you knew I would make this, you are a great prognosticator.

@cajozack

5 жыл бұрын

Ekim X haven’t heard him say that line in a while

@That_One_User_314

5 жыл бұрын

Tyz The Phoenix Not since the Super reviews. Good times :')

@bigbrainanime9485

5 жыл бұрын

If you remember Geekdom saying that, you get a senior citizen discount.

@jlash259

5 жыл бұрын

Str8 Krillin it you must be getting one too

@ElectroBlastLuigi

5 жыл бұрын

@Ekim X except he already made these videos. He's basically running out of ideas. Look them up yourself.

The fact that tingly back feelings are part of Super Saiyan Lore infuriates me.

@RoyalSouls

5 жыл бұрын

Oh hey black.

@amc2153

5 жыл бұрын

BlackScape get over it scape

@jordainereboe3917

3 жыл бұрын

Probably by running there energy through the s-cells in their back and a high enough power level which the universe 6 saiyans have enough of due to being so strong. Well that's just my theory.

@lince1764

3 жыл бұрын

honestly I kinda liked the idea. you see, the sayians of the universe 6 are diferent from 7's, thus making the conditions to the transformation diferent.

@abney_66

3 жыл бұрын

@@lince1764 it's still dumb

I just remembered Hitler or "dictator" in Fusion Reborn noticing Goten and Trunks turn Super Saiyan and saying that he should hire them because they have blond hair and blue eyes😂

@ogolow570

5 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@hazebro3786

4 жыл бұрын

this real good comedy

@yudah7492

4 жыл бұрын

I think Toriyama's inspiration on the Super Saiyans is from Hitler and the Nazi ideology about the Aryan race with the pale skin, blond hair, and blue eyes. Obviously, he would never admit it and say he came up with it a different way, but if you look up how they talk about Super Saiyans and the Aryan race, you'll notice the similarities.

@Deathmare235

3 жыл бұрын

@@yudah7492 I’m pretty sure the inspiration for the hair was cause dying was a very rebellious act in Japanese culture but I don’t know about the eyes

@CasualCat64

2 жыл бұрын

@@sweetandsover776 shut up

For thousands of years I lay dormant! Who has disturb my... Oh geekdom uploaded a video. Nice

@kimmoreels7950

5 жыл бұрын

hahahaa

@0me3s

5 жыл бұрын

LOOK AT MY TRUCKER HAT!!!

@AJZulu

5 жыл бұрын

Neat

@blueboy3098

5 жыл бұрын

m jefferson that video was recently in your recommended, wasn't it

@alexisdelvalle2025

5 жыл бұрын

Neat geets

Definitely had to put my 2 cents in on this one. “The power comes in response to a need, not a desire” “you must create that need, use the pain of lost.” If you complete the quote, what Goku is stating is a traumatic stress event that causes you to react to a situation vs, thinking up by just desiring something. Goku didn’t desire anything when he turned SSJ for the 1st time. He snapped, watching his best friend murdered after he gave everything he had with the spirit bomb. Goku was not only emotionally triggered, he was backed into a corner and he reacted in response ... that is what triggered his SSJ transformation. Which transformation is metaphorically in reality what we gain through that traumatic experience. We are never the same person again. Which originally when the SSJ was 1st introduced is why I feel in love with Dragonball. It took training, hard work and the emotional struggle through a traumatic experience to transform and change ourselves to be better, to be greater. And as the years gone by, the watered the transformation down for the simple pleasure of entertaining the kids for today... with this tingle bullshit and S-cells.

@phoenixtoolit

Жыл бұрын

Perfectly worded 💯

@bluenitethewarrior9332

7 ай бұрын

That is fair. But the idea of actually being a cellular thing makes sense when explaing why the kids can transform and why a ssj hasnt appeared ever. Like you would think someone would reach the emotional level goku was. Backed against a wall. No options. A whole race and no one felt that? And secondly it was proven that you dont need a high power level to reach that point. Unless your vegeta who doesnt have that many s cells. He literally mutated his s cells. Its also why it took him so long. When realistically vegeta has been where goku has plenty of times before. Especially on namek. The og transformations are the best no question there. But how you explain when a kid transforms? And whenever someone transformed without that anger. Its obviously you using ki in a different way. So when dbs explained how you transformed every single time. Are you angered every time? Do you just remember that moment? It doesnt help alot when you think about it. It isnt magically there is a reason involving your ki. So explain that. What are you doing with your ki. Its actually really interesting.

Nothing beats the first Super Saiyan transformation. When it happened it was unexpected and really otherworldly. After it had already been done once, continuing to stack more and more transformations on top of it, really just killed the specialness of being able to transform at all. But the panoply of transformation to come were greatly foreshadowed, when we kept watching Frieza transform over and over again, so it's fair to say, it was probably always in the mind of the creators, at least by the time DBZ arrived.

@FEdelasJONS

Жыл бұрын

Vegeta SSJ >

"All I want to do is see you turn into a Super Saiyan."

@Mojavekight17

5 жыл бұрын

Loser277 I'd pay for that

@escaro3975

5 жыл бұрын

*"A sUpEr sAiYaN"*

@martin.3443

5 жыл бұрын

Just look it up and you will see the song

@Spanky8402

5 жыл бұрын

I tried but I pooped my pants.

@Soma_Chronicles

5 жыл бұрын

@oliver closehoff I bet you're 16 LOL

I think that the gold color used in the ssj transformation is extremely ironic considering that gold is a super conducter of energy specifically electricity which is hinted at even more in ssj2 with them generating bio electricity.

@DTyler172

5 жыл бұрын

I never assumed it was a colouring, since energy cannot be destroyed only transformed into another type of energy I always assumed that the sheer amount of energy needed to be a ssj was radiating out of their bodies and transforming into light... it's also what I think the aura that they have are... biological potential energy transforming into atmospheric heat and light

@vision4860

4 жыл бұрын

@@DTyler172 Except there are points like right after Goku and Gohan come out of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, where they just have yellow hair while retaining the transformation in a calm and controlled state. No aura, no glow. Their hair very much does actually change color outside of any projection of energy.

THE MOST ICONIC FORM, LESGOOOOOOOOOO

@flowerpotcandy

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Slo luv your db fusion series

@johnwicklanso2336

3 жыл бұрын

Slo ???????!!!!!!!!!

@quandaledingle4606

3 жыл бұрын

Hey slo

@bullymaguire632

3 жыл бұрын

Less gooooo

"Plenty of juice" or my personal favorite *vegeta crying* "I WANNA I WANNA BE A SUPER SAIYAN!"

@alexandrastaniforth2216

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

S-Cells, Base Power, Strong Emotions, Ki Control... I think every part of the ecuation helps in his own way to achieve the form, but you don't necessarily need all three to transform, as long as you add enough to reach that threshold.

The transformation to Super Saiyan by Goku in Goku vs Frieza was the most Badass transformation by Goku ever..... I really miss that badass Goku...

@storageunit2683

5 жыл бұрын

I recorded it on VHS and rewatched it so many times!

@kaioshinemorton8493

5 жыл бұрын

@@storageunit2683 🤘🤘👍

@spectreshadow

5 жыл бұрын

Him going SSJB Kaio-Ken against hit is probably my favorite.

@young-blk-investor1059

5 жыл бұрын

He was getting raped the whole time before that lmao so how was he a badass

@calvinrump3558

5 жыл бұрын

@@kaioshinemorton8493 Goku turning ssj against frieza is just a plot-device. Akria needed away for goku to win even thought frieza would've won regardless. Plus the False- Supersayian is better than the namek version which made alot of sense. Like how goku was cornered and power-less. And unleashed this monsterous raged deep inside.

Fun fact, only Goku’s initial ssj transformation and Gohan’s ssj2 transformation during the Cell Games were triggered by rage in the original manga. The rest were all done through training.

@shadowelitez7329

5 жыл бұрын

Jesse Griffin future trunks

@jg5004

5 жыл бұрын

j-m Fontus he was already ssj in the manga thanks to his training with Gohan. His rage transformation over Gohan’s death was anime only.

@J.C.117

5 жыл бұрын

You forgot Cabba going both ssj and ssj2

@jg5004

5 жыл бұрын

Floyd Mayweather Jr you forgot I said original manga.

@starkiller1248

5 жыл бұрын

You forgot to mention that bardocks ssj transformation was caused by rage

10:20 - The way I always saw this was that the transformation is triggered by focusing your ki on your solar plexus chakra, but that there are two ways to do it. When you get angry you automatically and instinctively focus your ki there. Whereas, if you just know what you're doing and you're powerful enough, you can also simply choose to focus your ki there. This would also explain why the saiyans first can't become super saiyans at will but once they've experienced it for the first time they can learn to turn it on and off at will without requiring the same level of anger. Because once they experience the feeling of their anger concentrating their power in their solar plexus chakra, they know that's what you have to do. And so in the future they can learn to replicate that feeling with skill alone to transform at will. So, essentially, both would be doing the same thing but one instinctually while the other requires experience (or someone to tell you what the experience is like) and skill.

I just had a conversation with a guy who strongly believed Ssj2 is a x2 multiplier from base and ssj3 is a x4 from base I had to leave his stupidity in peace.

@isaacmettle

5 жыл бұрын

3Block Ko Yes don’t waste your energy, my friend

@UniversalPRR

5 жыл бұрын

Lmao what was his reason?

@LordZula

5 жыл бұрын

Sad case.

@soulsurj4782

5 жыл бұрын

I had a conversation with a guy like that a couple of years ago. He said all of the forms were additions.

@c.l8375

5 жыл бұрын

drewster What about your own stupidity for saying I was powerscaling?

Still waiting for Super Saiyan 6.

@LordZula

5 жыл бұрын

Lakers fan Ultra Instinct isn’t a super Saiyan form.

@LordZula

5 жыл бұрын

Lakers fan “Wait w-what...”

@KnightBX

5 жыл бұрын

Ultra instinct is beyond the “super” saiyan. It is “ultra”. I bet one of the early names was Ultra saiyan lol.

@matthewhernandez8342

5 жыл бұрын

@Lakers fan I need you guys to give me a hand with my balls!

@bigbrainanime9485

5 жыл бұрын

Still waiting for my cousin to get those Dragonball AF DVDs from his foreign friend.

I remember a LONG time ago when I thought literally anyone could become SSJ including humans.

@randomcommenter6498

5 жыл бұрын

That One Dude I remember thinking Yamcha was a saiyan

@daylen_ttk8191

5 жыл бұрын

That One Dude I remember when a I never saw dbz and thought Frieza was a Namekians

@kylestahlman8013

5 жыл бұрын

I remember getting the vhs tape of trunks coming from the future for the first time and I thought it was Goku with new hair.

@petruciosxd1374

5 жыл бұрын

I somehow had memories of Cell explaining his return after he blew up being Meta Cooler's lines.

@jamesc7894

5 жыл бұрын

I am. Hairspray and hair dye baby

Vegeta has a pure heart. Pure unadulterated Badass.

@adamtaurusragnathebloodedg8407

5 жыл бұрын

More like pure unadulterated ego

@randomcommenter6498

5 жыл бұрын

Adam Taurus dang I was about to comment that

@randomcommenter6498

5 жыл бұрын

Adam Taurus I heard that tri-clops

@toasterman4055

5 жыл бұрын

I heard that triclops!

@adamtaurusragnathebloodedg8407

5 жыл бұрын

Is that okay?

Ah yes the super saiyan form that started it all

Goku: "It comes from a need not from a desire." Caulifla: Hold my beer.

S cells DO male sense, cause Goku WAS and IS a GENTLE it makes perfect sense. Remember it took Vegeta longer and more training than Goku. So the gentle thing does make sense.

@tenx4512

5 жыл бұрын

Xavier Childers but it doesn’t female sense

@jjfeedback443

4 жыл бұрын

Tenx maybe if your on you period

@Xeno574

3 жыл бұрын

@MoloTurbo Gohan did struggle to get SSJ. He only got it after being pushed over the edge by Goku during training. Goten literally got it by kicking Chichi lol

7:29 - The way I always saw this was that there was a minimum power level requirement to trigger the transformation. So your body has to be powerful enough to begin with for your rage to then push you over the edge.

Honestly I really like the whole S-cells thing. It explains the concept of Super Saiyan and also explains why none of the original Saiyans on planet Vegeta could transform and yet Goten and Trunks could. They likely inherited a lot of S-cells from their fathers. It's likely the rage thing causes Saiyans to tap into their S-cells, almost like a short cut.

Super Saiyan The OG Transformation Of Saiyan's.

@DoctorDivineGamer

5 жыл бұрын

@@vsauce_johnny2516 I guess

My favorite Saiyan form is probably Super Saiyan 2 and Broly Ozaroo power.

@kenzieanimates3065

5 жыл бұрын

David Campbell you mean wrathful

@Stoops_Ahoy

5 жыл бұрын

@@kenzieanimates3065 do you mean ikari?

@Stoops_Ahoy

5 жыл бұрын

Oozaru*

@legendary9689

5 жыл бұрын

Mines is the legendary super Saiyan form always been my favorite.

@legendary9689

5 жыл бұрын

And super Saiyan 4

I still don´t get what S-cells contradict, i think they work perfectly, can someone give an actual example of a contradiction regarding S-cells? Great video by the way.

@daylen_ttk8191

5 жыл бұрын

ChronosLawliet123 I havent watched the vid yet I think S-Cells is inheriting cells from ancestors.

@michaelsong3733

5 жыл бұрын

I think it's the fact that it originally took rage to transform, but the s-cells say the opposite. But even so, i do think it makes sense how s-cells work.

@ChronosLawliet123

5 жыл бұрын

@@michaelsong3733 Well, as far as i know, S-cells do not deny that rage is needed to transform, it is just that if you have a lot of S-cells, you don´t need it, but if you don´t have so many, like Goku and Vegeta, you´ll need rage to trigger it. Also, Goku and the other saiyans were the ones who assumed you needed rage, but they´re not scientists, they were talking out of experience and empirical knowledge. It´s just like Goku saying that Broly "MIGHT" be even stronger than Beerus, he thinks he MIGHT be, but he doesn´t really know.

@64kingarthur

5 жыл бұрын

@@michaelsong3733 how exactly does it contradict? It only says one needs a gentle spirit to increase it.

@ozero00rockon

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Song A gentle person such as Gohan has low power but when he gets angry, his power explodes breaking limits he never shown before. S-Cells in this case is probably dormant energy that the body’s limiters need to experience before being capable of handling that strength. Turning into a Super Saiyan is an example of that even at the expense of a physical change via black hair turning gold, a small body becoming muscular to the point the body glows gold as well.

Geekdom as always, geeking it up!!

I think a good way to reconcile the back tingling feeling is that in Universe 6 that's how you achieve the form. In Universe 7 it's through training and usually through trauma, but neither universe can use the others path, they can only use their own.

5:42 "S-cells"? Great, now Saiyans have midichlorian count too??

@lapplandkun9273

3 жыл бұрын

Except the midichlorian in star wars amounted to nothing and didn't contradict lore. Anakin was the chosen one with the highest midichlorian count. Did he skip and got unreasonable power boosts? No. He was talented and skilled but he wasn't the best in the jedi order. Yoda was still stronger than him with centuries of experience and age. So was sidious.

Goten: Mommy! Trunks stole my candies! **turns Sūppa Saiyajin* Chichi: Ah shit, here we go again.

At this point if you don’t know what SSJ is then you should just stop....

@kushtrimb.7908

5 жыл бұрын

William Alex no need to explain it bro , true fans know that much

@therealCanimani

5 жыл бұрын

I still dont kno wwhat a ssj is

@storageunit2683

5 жыл бұрын

Before I even know what super saiyan was, my first dragonball toy was super saiyan goku fron the bandi collection

@xrstevenson

5 жыл бұрын

@huhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh well he's just trying to get more views, it's called Milking

@starkiller1248

5 жыл бұрын

What's ssj? A burrito?

I live in south GA and let me tell you there are people who are completely oblivious to any kind of anime, no idea what a super saiyan looks like or could even begin to have ideas. Couldn't tell you what goku looks like.

Love this vid geekdom but I just wanna mention I lovedddd the video on worldofgeekdom that you just put up about your parents, you’re one of the strongest souls I’ve seen thru social media keep your head up and be strong brother keep bringing the fire content

@Geekdom101

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Yes!!! I’ve been waiting on this latest episode of the transformation guide! Been loving these series ! Keep it up, honestly can’t wait for god (red) my favorite form

Welp with S-Cells he's now up there with George Lucas and JK Rowling.

@skoleversjon9207

4 жыл бұрын

Oof

@Ivi-Tora

4 жыл бұрын

George means "earthworker": George Lucas is a mole. JK is short for "Just Kidding": JK Rowling is fooling around. Tori is japanese for bird: Toriyama acts like a bird brain. Don't let them fool you! The truth is out there!

@thousand7480

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ivi-Tora Huh?

I never bielived that u need a pure heart to be super sayain cause this universes sayains majority are no where near pure of heart😂

@pinstripecool34

5 жыл бұрын

Mizz Infamous or ya know just make your back feel tingly.

@starkiller1248

5 жыл бұрын

Goku has a pure heart that's why devil man couldn't kill him with his ultimate attack that makes evil in a person explode

SSJ4 is my favorite form. Cannon or not. The design is one of the best. Kaioken is my favorite technique.

@starkiller1248

5 жыл бұрын

I agree ssj4 is my favorite as well as ssj4 gogeta

@vision4860

4 жыл бұрын

My problem with it is that Super Saiyan 4 very clearly goes in a total left-field direction from the previous transformations. It shouldn't have been named in a linear fashion if it required you to do a complete turnaround. "Well guys, Super Saiyan's had nothing to do with the tail for 3 whole transformations... Now you have to regrow your tail, turn into a golden ape, then Warp Digivolve to Super Saiyan 4." Should've called it something else that made it clear it wasn't in the straight progression of main Super Saiyan forms. Like... idk, Super Saiyan Wild or something.

@rx7.teykhan683

3 жыл бұрын

Other than the magical pants and eyeliner, ssj4 is cool

S-Cells, also known as Midichlorians.

@purplebondsaiyan2987

3 жыл бұрын

@DarrellCovello I Just Thought of the Fact that S Cells are Dragonball's Version of Midichlorians

It's a tingling feeling on your back, according to DBS.

So, with S-Cells Toriyama went full midichlorian... Man, you never go full midicholrian.

I love the part in the destroyer tournament after cabba turned ssj, that Vegeta left himself completely open for attack and closed his eyes and just smiled while Cabba punched him straight in the face.... Great episode 💯

I get the same vibes as the Star Wars retcon, but it doesn’t bother me in the same way. I kinda like the explanation of a more peaceful environment creating more opportunities for a transformation to happen. It also (kinda) justifies how Bardock randomly became a Super Saiyan in his weird time travel special. That was a peaceful time for him, even if it was brief. Not to say I like that special, but it makes more sense now and I guess that’s what counts.

Concise, informative, well made, and of course enjoyable. Great job as always Geekdom.

I always thought you had to surpass a certain power limit to achieve Super Sayian. Around 90,000, just going off Goku’s base power on Namek. The tingling feeling is exclusive to Universe 6 Sayians.

@vaultboy5492

Жыл бұрын

well if you count bardock going super sayian he had a power level of like 10,000 which is like sayian saga goku so kinda debunks that if u count tht

Your narrations are always consistent; I love that! Compliment all a this with your radical videographic displays and you're literally one of a kind, Geekdom!

Sit ups Push ups And.. a lot of juice

@AJZulu

5 жыл бұрын

Emphasis on "juice"

@mikeboillard9071

5 жыл бұрын

*plenty of juice*

@MarkARoutt

5 жыл бұрын

ive been saying this all day.

@danielcooke3800

5 жыл бұрын

I waz going to say alot of meat

Weren't the SSJ eyes originally supposed to be red?

@kyosnk40

5 жыл бұрын

Yup!

“In peace I will both lie down and sleep; for you alone, O Lord, make me dwell in safety.” “In his days may the righteous flourish, and peace abound, till the moon be no more!” “And he said, 'O man greatly loved, fear not, peace be with you; be strong and of good courage. GOD bless

Awesome video Geekdom. Thanks for everything you do. One thing though. Wasn’t it stated that one of the criteria’s for becoming a Super Saiyan was to first surpass your normal Saiyan limitations? Back when Goku was doing the gravity training in the space pod, the narrator said that all the training Goku did allowed him to break his normal limitations of power as a Saiyan. (This is DragonBall Kai by the way). Sort of like what Saitama did that allowed him to become so strong. This explains why Goku didn’t become a Super Saiyan when he was a kid. He didn’t break his Saiyan limiter. So I always thought that in order to to transform, you have to surpass your limitations in base form, and then experience extreme emotional distress. Captain Ginyu estimated that Goku’s actual power level was somewhere in the realm of 60,000, even though it was really at 90,000. So maybe the limit for most Saiyans biologically peaks at anywhere from 60,000 - 90,000. Probably a bit below 60,000 though. If I’m wrong, then I’m wrong. My apologies for the length of this comment.

This is easily my new favorite series you’ve done

My favorite series that you've done. Great job!

Bro I remember when I was a little kid I was desperate to be a super saiyan 😂 I had dreams I would power up and shit 😂

Super saiyan 1 in my opinion is the best transformation out of all the transformations. Watching goku be the first saiyan in history to achieve the form will always be my childhood highlight.

You never even mentioned the 50x multiplier

Understanding one's self and being in control of ones emotions to the point where you can draw out great power definitely is someone with strong real world martial arts underpinnings. However, the whole S-cell thing is one retcon Toriyama probably should not have made to explain how certain people of achieve the power earlier in life and easier. It is easier to think of it as being something passed down genetically with each generation able to achieve power greater than the last. It is more likely that the thing needed to turn into a super saiyan reliability is a genetic trait that represents an evolutionary step forward from the saiyan race as a whole. As this genetic trait is passed down through the generations, turning super saiyan would require less and less effort. The problem is that the bloodline with the trait has to survive long enough to reach the point where the trait can manifest itself in someone. Because of the saiyans' warrior nature and need to fight this probably lead to many of those who could have had the trait dying before it could be passed on causing it to become something that was extremely rare among existing saiyans.

@livingashtree1942

5 жыл бұрын

The S-Cells thing actually make perfect sense if you ask me. The more S-Cells the easier it is for the Saiyan to evolve into a Super Saiyan. I think S-Cells simply stand for Saiyan Cells. The more S-Cells you got, the stronger the Saiyan traits. Someone like Broly would then have a shit ton load of S-Cells. I assume the color of S-Cells are Green in nature. Which would explain why Broly has Green hair & Aura in his Legendary Super Saiyan form, which is said to be the True Super Saiyan form.

@dragonslayer2107

5 жыл бұрын

@@livingashtree1942 Yeah, but what determines how many you have is the issue. I believe Geekdom said that they are created by being gentle and that by being *violent* they decrease. This means that the more you fight, the harder the transformation should be or the weaker it should be which does not seem to be the case. Toriyama should not have gone into a deeper explanation of S-cells as it made the idea sound silly.

@livingashtree1942

5 жыл бұрын

@@dragonslayer2107 S-cells don't decrease by violent. Being gentle simply gives their body the time to cultivate S-cells.

@dragonslayer2107

5 жыл бұрын

@@livingashtree1942 Then maybe I misunderstood what he said in the video. If so then you are right.

Lets just face it Toriyama easily forgets stuff, he will probably retcon all of this in the next Dragon Ball show.

I always looked at it as the later Super Saiyans having witnessed and felt the power of the transformation had a baseline on what to do and imitate. The first Super Saiyan after so long was the right circumstances of randomly putting a complex puzzle together, with some knowing it goes together, but no one really knowing what the picture looks like. With everyone after Goku, they know what the picture looks like and have an idea how to train to get there. With Califla, she simply looked at it only from the perspective of matching and imitating Ki energy, not from imitating the emotional state to naturally get there. Kind of like someone learning the moves of Kung Fu by simply learning the moves who is a natural at it, and completely disregarding the emotional calmness of Mr. Miyagi is teaching. That's how I look at it at least.

Rage raises one's power, canonically, even without a transformation. Theres evidence of that literally everywhere. The way it works is that theres a power ceiling at which the transformation becomes possible, where you can unlock it by luck, or by instruction, and another power ceiling where the boost from rage makes it inevitable.

Yes! This video is FINALLY OUT!😆

4:33 - I know it's of dubious canonicity, but I honestly always thought the idea that it comes from a need and not a desire was one of the best things about the super saiyan trasnformation.

@cerebralassassin2185

2 жыл бұрын

It kinda makes sense. Vegeta felt like he needed to be stronger than goku, trunks felt like he needed to avenge gohan and save the future, etc.

Finally a channel that gets me!

Aye RIP Nipsey Hussle.... he was a saiyan

@Maddymadd24

5 жыл бұрын

@Zechs Marquise yes .... unfortunately yes

I preferred it back when a character had to work and be pushed to their emotional limits to become super-saiyan. Each time a character achieved the form for the first time it was a defining moment for them and the culmination of a character arc. I hated how Goten and Kid Trunks could just do it and how Goku just pulled SSJ3 out of his ass with no buildup or character development involved.

Hey geekdom, Are you sure the saiyan transformation isn't a curse? 😂😂😂 Animegirl pun intended🤣😂🤣

I think that all you need to do is you have to do the tingly feeling. Maybe when they’re angry at those moments they transformed is because they somehow unconsciously focused all their energy on their back. Caulifla just managed to do that without the anger. The s-cells help to achieve it easier and makes you don’t need as much effort

How I would've had it: U7 Saiyans going Super Saiyan: A spark that goes through your mind. U6 Saiyans going Super Saiyan: The tingly feeling on the back.

Man, I wish DBGT was canon. SS4 is awesome.

@assordante2205

2 жыл бұрын

No it wasn't.

I don't get why people have issues with S-Cells & Midichlorians... Don't think of it as being explained with science, but rather, being able to scientifically notice some physical aspect of mystical/spiritual things...

@kidomniman8635

5 жыл бұрын

Midichlorians set hard limits on who could become jedi and how powerful they could become. That's why it sucks. We didn't need to know that Yoda was much more naturally strong than obi wan but Darth Vader was much stronger than that. Power levels are kind of bullshit and master roshi has proven that a few times. Obi wan proved it too

hey you make awesome videos man! Very informative. I never fully understood the whole SS transformation thing before like why it only happened to certain Saiyans and not others but your explanation totally makes sense...thanks for clearing it all up for me!! Peace out ;D

Honestly Goten and young Trunks(mainly Goten) turning Super Saiyan so early does make sense. Ive always said this myself, and as you mentioned in the video, Goku and Vegeta were way stronger than their parents when they were making babies. Goku was way stronger when he conceived Goten than when he conceived Gohan. ALSO, and most importantly in Goten's case, remember the few days before the Cell Tournament Goku and Gohan were living their normal life after they got out of the Room of Spirit & Time as Super Saiyans(but without any feelings of malevolence or anger). It is stated at the beginning of the Buu saga when Goten is introduced that this is the time period that Goku conceives Goten with Chichi, meaning Goku was IN Super Saiyan form when he got Chichi pregnant with Goten. The healthier/stronger/powerful you are when you have children the more likely that your children will be healthy/strong/powerful too.

Becoming a super saiyan has become milestone and right of passage for saiyans

I always thought the transformation arose due to having a certain amount of strength, essentially as strong as Goku was when he fought Frieza, and some sort of emotional duress. Vegeta trained, became stronger than Goku was when he fought Frieza, and transformed. Future Trunks and kid Gohan were definitely strong enough, seeing as how at that point being as strong as Frieza wasn't much of an accomplishment. I highly doubt it's in any way far fetched to say Goten and Trunks were far stronger than Frieza when they transformed offscreen. Now, their "emotional duress" is debatable, but they were kids, so emotional duress from their perspective can be something as simple as getting punched in the damn face by your mom.

Not been too much over been interested in lately but this video was classic quality Geekdom material - more informative thorough and peppered with video and fan service still shots. Keep it up Geekdom

Whis also said that the super saiyan transformation is a genetic mutation which could also explain why goku and vegeta passed down the cells to goten and trunks

My thoughts on each ssj form Ssj- nostalgia! Ssj2- cool I guess I like the electric effect Ssj3- grows hair for power lol Ssj4- the most unique ssj form ever! Ssjg- Idk why I love ssjg and red! Meaning power! And I love the fire aura! Ssjb- meh it's cool but it just a recolour of ssj but I love the aura! Ssjb(evolution)- cool purple color and makes you buff looking Warth(broly buff and great ape Humanoid state)- cool the name reminds of my 2nd favorite anime seven deadly sins from Meliodas demon wrath Ssj full powered(broly ssj rlly buff form)- no words besides this but its cool

@shadowelitez7329

5 жыл бұрын

TotallyNOTMeliodas what about blue evolution and Broly’s form

@plantunim

5 жыл бұрын

@@shadowelitez7329 oh I forgot

@starkiller1248

5 жыл бұрын

Ssb should be ssgss get it right >:(

Extreme rage>>>Tingly feeling in the back

@picklewhicle5358

3 жыл бұрын

>>>>>

Remember what Vegeta said in the anime what a Super Saiyan is (Japanese version only and it's not even in the manga): "A Super Saiyan, who can surpass barriers that even the most gifted (elite/1st class) warriors can not." Just go beyond your limit in base mode then you can become a SSJ🤓

Goten and Trunks were shafted, they have unrivaled potential and could go beyond what Goku and Vageta could ever imagine.

@cedbluechase122

5 жыл бұрын

bbq seitan actually its Gohan that has the most potential

That tingly back feeling.

I really enjoyed your video but I think you forgot to mention the multiplier of Super Saiyan which is at least 50x base maybe more for Mastered Super Saiyan but I guess you’ll mention it in another video or something

4:29 "pure, unadulterated, badass"

Pretty crazy I’ve been watching you since I was like 14 and now Im all grown up and have a baby, it’s always been the best place to go to get info on db, you do a very great job keep up the amazing work.

So in short .... SUPER SEAMAN = SUPER SAIYAN 🤔

Before I actually started watching dbz I was so confused why people kept calling so many different dudes Goku ... like that not Goku he has a tail. And black hair. And eyebrows. Wtf?

I will always remember Goku as the legendary golden haired warrior

@starkiller1248

5 жыл бұрын

Actually bardock is the first legendary ssj he started the legend

I always figured with Gotenks having your mother attack you like that at such a young age would probably scare you as she is mainly the only women you know and has cared for you-you're entire life and might trigger that transformation. With Trunks getting repeated verbal "harassment" from Vegeta might trigger it as well, even if over time Trunks became used to it.

hi Geekdom101. nice vid! can you the Asian biological lore? i would very much to see that

@or3nshi577

5 жыл бұрын

*Link

Who else loves super Saiyan rose 😈 !

@crisspacheco5071

5 жыл бұрын

Q fire me🌹

@qheat22

5 жыл бұрын

@@crisspacheco5071 yes same bro it was amazing

@starkiller1248

5 жыл бұрын

Not me I thought it was dumb

@picklewhicle5358

3 жыл бұрын

It's underrated and a little bit stronger than blue

The 1st villain transformation u should do is bojack... how does his skin go from blue to green? Is it related to brolys aura or could it be related? Lol idk

Wouldn’t Zarbons transformation come before this? If you are covering all of the transformations.

I think the dumbest thing was when they said in Super you can go super saiyan when you feel a tingle in your back and focusing that energy...blew my mf mind 🤯🤪🤦‍♂️

@S-W1iper

5 жыл бұрын

XL I think they just tried to say how it feels going ssj

U forgot to mention ssj Sonic

I do think the argument that there are separate ways of obtaining Super Saiyan is pretty relevant. Because my mom and I got into kinesiology after my dad passed away, as it not only helped us cope with the roller-coaster of emotions that we experienced afterwards, but helped us understand ourselves more and more. And one way of us knowing what's going on within is something called "Muscle-testing". Not so much a stress test, but by having someone lightly push down on your arm to see if it gives or not (if it gives, it's a yes) is a good way to get your body (and therefore, your subconscious) a simple yes or no question about what's going on and what you actually need. But after years of learning more and more about Muscle-testing, we learned there are simpler ways to do it on your own. For me, my current preferred way is when I ask myself a yes or no question, I feel a sort of rush or flex in my head if it's a yes. I know that probably sounds like bullshit to you guys, but honestly, kinesiology is based on Eastern medicine which has everything to do Hinduism, which is basically the source for all the powers in stuff like _Dragon Ball, Star Wars,_ and _Avatar: The Last Airbender._

My take on this transformation is that you have to have an incredible amount of power on top of being having large quantities of S Cells. As for the rage and other triggers, they exist as focal points for the transformation to happen. Also, I think that when Goku transformed, he overcame/ shattered some kind of wall within himself. It's similar to how Yusuke changed in the Dark Tournament after Kwabara's supposed death. Though there're no visible physical changes, in terms of power and personality, he becomes someone else. Similarly, when Goku had reached that peak of his abilities, he doesn't know how or what he was supposed to do. Thus he behaved like his usual self, resorting to tactics and techniques he is all too familiar with. However, Krillin's violent death flipped everything. At this point, he released everything he had at once and his metamorphosis took a physical turn. That is what becomes the Super Saiyan

I’m pretty sure it’s a curse.

@saiyancurseultimate9402

5 жыл бұрын

Yes.

“I’ll keep it simple” Still makes a video 16 minutes long. Welp, guess i need some popcorn

On Point and yes Nappa did indeed mention the Super Saiyan believing it was Gohan since his power was greater than any saiyan child.

@livingashtree1942

5 жыл бұрын

Later we found out that Broly is that "Super Saiyan"

since Gotenks can go ssj3, does that mean Trunks and Goten knows how to go ssj3 as well?

@ChronosLawliet123

5 жыл бұрын

Remember, to use Super saiyan you have to have a strong enough body. They can go Ssj 3 while fused because Gotenks is very strong, but separated they are not that strong, so they can´t go Ssj 3 by themselves.