I actually liked how anime Goku Black didn't have a normal Super Saiyan form, fitting with the idea that Super Saiyan Rosé was truly a godly form of Super Saiyan. In fact, I have a headcanon that Super Saiyan Rosé functions like Super Saiyan Blue does, except instead of drawing upon the power of Super Saiyan God to empower the Super Saiyan form, Goku Black instead draws upon his own godly potential as Zamasu.

@SirCorn

2 жыл бұрын

That's a good angle

@ozero00rockon

2 жыл бұрын

Zamasu is a kai so literally yeah. Since he’s a kai, he puts out god ki.

@WeBarelySober

2 жыл бұрын

Your theory is pretty much the actual explanation.

@ozero00rockon

2 жыл бұрын

@@WeBarelySober You could argue it’s not considering Goku and Vegeta could have access to the forms if they were actual deities instead of mortals.

@WeBarelySober

2 жыл бұрын

@@ozero00rockon The one factor that plays a big part in that argument is ultra ego imo.

I remember back when this came out I called BS for him attaining this BUT it made perfect sense when it was Zamasu who took over his body.

@splat1gamer25

2 жыл бұрын

Did zamasu transform into goku

@gregt-f3907

2 жыл бұрын

@@splat1gamer25 u didn't watch it? Go watch it. Its on KZread.

@Subarashii_Nem

2 жыл бұрын

@@splat1gamer25 I mean.. Wishes, multiverse travel and multiple realities happened. Ain't gonna say exactly what happened in case someone reading hasn't yet watched the arc but Zamasu is inside Gokus body (not a spoiler, it's everywhere whenever you see Goku Black, he's called Zamasu and Goku Black interchangeably) so he gets the same ability to grow stronger as he fights and gets a zankai boost when taking sufficient damage in battle, like the Saiyans do. Also, Goku Black is genuinely a badass villain. The arc is shaky but Black, even tho he's basically just evil Goku, is still a great villain because of how Batshit crazy he actually is, imho. Watch the arc, it's the best arc in Super. Ending of the arc is pretty bad but the thing as a whole is pretty good!

@spartanheart6948

2 жыл бұрын

Goku should have had this ability as well but maybe it depended on a type of darkness that he doesn't have. But goku that never bumped his head probably would have turned into this. That little thing changed the course of all of history

@jayd103

2 жыл бұрын

@@spartanheart6948 the reasons Goku Blacks form is like that is Zamasu asked the dragon to switch their body’s so even though he was in a saiyan body he was still a supreme Kai a divine being, but in this case this “wicked Kai” already mastered divine energy and just learned how to go super saiyan in gokus body which already put him on a level rivaling super saiyan blue bc he already mastered divine energy

I remember when the form got leaked everyone hated the pink hair. Then once the anime released and everyone saw it with the black aura it looked beautiful and frightening at the same time. It's got to be one of my favorite looking forms of all time.

@leultrainstinct406

2 жыл бұрын

Facts. Some people hate on super forms by calling them recolors, but each of the forms have the most badass and unique auras and techniques in the entire franchise

@shawziiz5031

2 жыл бұрын

I don't hate nor like but Goku Black is the only character that I give a pass about all this recolor transformation that DBS been abuse. Simply because he is an evil counterpart to Goku, therefore make sense for him to have a different color of SS form in order to give a contrast to Goku. The rest of the forms introduced is just pointless recolor, unnecessary.

@sanjuro1180

2 жыл бұрын

@@leultrainstinct406 ''but each of the forms have the most badass and unique auras and techniques in the entire franchise'' thats bs

@lonelysatoshi2482

2 жыл бұрын

I was one of them, at the start I absolutely hated the transformation, but when I saw it in action I really started to like it even more, but personally what made me love it was the manga version, with a more sinester pink aura with added bolts and black eyelashes, it was beautiful

@thienvan8614

9 ай бұрын

@@nomercyinc6783 Explain Kid Buu looking feminine and not looking badass

My favourite form in the entire series. The unique skillset that Black used in the anime with the clones, spatial rupture and that Scythe was just epic.

@That_gaming_Piplup

2 жыл бұрын

I can agree with you there *Super Saiyan Rosé is one of my favorite super saiyan forms*

@woo1164

2 жыл бұрын

Nah I think it’s jus skills exclusive to black only because of zamasu not cuz he had rose

@hayleycampbell5358

2 жыл бұрын

Ssjr is not like blue because black in base was at the strength of vegeta in ssjb if ssjr was as strong as blue then he would have killed goku, trunks and vegeta with ez.

@ssjbgohan3747

2 жыл бұрын

@@hayleycampbell5358 i thought it was ssjb but with pure god ki since, ssj isn't god ki

@realjohnlove

Жыл бұрын

Super Saiyan Rosé is just Super Saiyan Blue but because he is just Zamasu who already has God Ki & not a mortal, the hair turned Fuchsia instead of Blue. Super Saiyan Blue is for mortals.

I always loved this transformation, why? As Goku Black said himself. It's beautiful. The multicolored layered aura looked divine.

@omerdirekci8857

2 жыл бұрын

It truly looked majestic, divine, beautiful. It perfectly accompanied zamasu's idea of divine beauty

@TritiCale-gc8ib

14 күн бұрын

He shoulda fused with vegeta. Imagine lol

I always assumed Fused Zamasu's hair was white because Zamasu's hair is white. It took on Goku's shape but Zamasu's color. I think the green skin further backs up the idea that Zamasu influenced the colors of the fusion.

@GunlessSnake

2 жыл бұрын

Which makes sense since the new soul is just Zamasu's soul from different timelines merging together. Aside from the mixed body, Merged Zamasu is really just a new Zamasu.

@adolfocobos6942

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@marunomi5887

Жыл бұрын

I think fused zamasu was using an evolved version of SSJR that’s why his hair was spiked up

@youtubestudiosucks978

Жыл бұрын

​@@marunomi5887 ssj rose 2 confirmed

@Blueora3243

11 ай бұрын

​@@youtubestudiosucks978sdbh?????

"Evil, polluted, twisted form..." What? No. It is a divine, pure, elegant form that towers above what a mere mortal could ever achieve. It is a form of true justice. Of the world. Of Zamasu! Praise him!

@michaliskyriakou7463

2 жыл бұрын

I would thing that his version will be closer to the real thing, since he's a deity using god ki

@That_One_User_314

2 жыл бұрын

Praise!

@Cay9z

2 жыл бұрын

Its not justice because its evil

@SkyZer0

2 жыл бұрын

@@Cay9z in his twisted view, its justice.

@JakethealmightyLucario

2 жыл бұрын

@@That_One_User_314 PRAISE THE ALMIGHTY GOD ZAMASU!!

The fused version is just his normal hair coming out. Since it’s him fusing with himself I always assumed he just took on more of his normal appearance. Without the need to transform. Ah let me add this it could also be because they fused transformed I remember old Kai saying fusing in a transformed state would be stupid as you’d never be able to power down! Or that it’s suicide as you’d be in a powered up state all the time basically killing yourself

@gio_el_santo0099

2 жыл бұрын

Think that got reconned in super

@kadeloblack4774

2 жыл бұрын

Such is the life of “DBU” lol

@nobblkpraetorian5623

2 жыл бұрын

@@gio_el_santo0099 It's not retconned, that drawback is offset by Zamasu's immortality. Other potara fusions like Vegito in Super and Kefla were formed when the fusees weren't transformed.

@titantrainer592

2 жыл бұрын

@@gio_el_santo0099 transformations are still permanent if you’re transformed before using potara

@titantrainer592

2 жыл бұрын

@@nobblkpraetorian5623 it’s even consistent in the manga as Kale and Caulifla were transformed when they fused and we only saw SSJ Kefla in the manga

I always thought that Rosé was just the perfected version of SS God🤷🏾‍♂️ Its kinda hard to compare since Zamasu already trained and understood God Ki.

@yorecf9641

2 жыл бұрын

I always liked that thought since SSR didn't have any stamina issues like with Blue (at least at the time) and the color was definitely more inline with the magenta from SSG.

For Fused Zamasu hair, I think because Kaioshin’s (I think) aren’t able to change their appearance while Sayia-Jin’s do with different forms. Zamasu was dominant for appearence of the fusion, so it took the hair design from Kakkarot Black (with one of the bangs being Zamasu’s) but keeps normal Kaioshin hair color. The aura is the same, it’s not affected but for the rest, the body is from Zamasu who’s speicies don’t change appearence so what’s left is a Kaioshin with a hair of a Sayia-Jin and color scheme from the Sayia-Jin on a Kaioshin’s out-fit. That’s my guess.

Bro this form is still so damn cool! And it's not something you'd expect to work, but pink hair really does work!

@slimsolo1384

2 жыл бұрын

it is an interesting contrast to the blue super saiyan

@TritiCale-gc8ib

14 күн бұрын

I want more fighters to go to Rose. Sadly they only allow Saiyan's the different forms but I still want them all to show their own progress and fights to show the progress. I think the show was left off at a good spot to naturally continue the process, the manga chapter I mean. I think they should show the Moro and Granola arcs on anime and things will naturally show you where the series should go. Let all the fan series have their ideas but I want Dragon to continue it's canon. It's not too crazy imo

The neat part about Goku Black’s aura is that sometimes it creates the shape of a rose, especially during the “YOU WILL DIE TODAY!” moment

I like it being “rose” as in the flower since he’s known as Black, making him a “Black Rose.”

@cjkalandek996

2 жыл бұрын

And in MasakoX's video on the color meaning for Super Saiyan Rose, he does break down that black roses are usually a symbol for great change through the death of old habits. Which is why the black rose is usually the symbol for a lot of anarchist groups over the past 50 years or so. Because Goku Black is an anarchist.

@neora5

2 жыл бұрын

But "Rosé" gives him an alcohol themed name for the form, more like the Gods of Destruction's names, which suits him for the Zero Mortals Plan.

@LILREMAlNS

2 жыл бұрын

No... look up Rosé wine, his hair is the same colour as the wine

@Maikigai

2 жыл бұрын

@@neora5 That’s a good point I hadn’t thought of before.

@Maikigai

2 жыл бұрын

@@LILREMAlNS True, either works in my opinion.

Ngl rose is one of the most badass transformations ever

@zoartontheprotector9198

2 жыл бұрын

Ultra Ego though man

@zelispeak

2 жыл бұрын

I like rose a lil more

@andrewbarragan3756

2 жыл бұрын

Super saiyan 3, Super saiyan rose, super saiyan 4 ultra ego and ultra instinct bad ass transformations

@SouthPlaya

Жыл бұрын

@@zoartontheprotector9198 anyone has the chance to achieve UE. You have to be a born a god to have Rosé meaning Rosé is beyond more rare but only achievable when fused with a saiyan

I remember when Goku Black was first introduced, there were theories about Goku Black actually transforming into a "Super Saiyan White", because Toriyama said that the villain if the Future Trunks arc was going to have white hair. The white haired villain actually turned out to be Zamasu, & the whole "Super Saiyan White" thing was for Fusion Zamasu, who is Goku Black fusing with another Zamasu.

@zoartontheprotector9198

2 жыл бұрын

UI bruh

@joshualowe959

2 жыл бұрын

@@zoartontheprotector9198 that too.

@shawziiz5031

2 жыл бұрын

@@zoartontheprotector9198 nah we all know Baby Vegeta is the first "Super Saiyan White". Also UI is silver and grey without the aura, not white

@zoartontheprotector9198

2 жыл бұрын

@@shawziiz5031 if cannon is out the window, UI Shaggy is stronger than xeno

@montecristosmith2343

11 ай бұрын

All the speculation and theorizing surrounding this arc was so much fun. Had its problems esp towards the end but was a fun ride.

To me the white hair are simply because Zamas' hair color is "dominant", sort of speak, with Potara is not like with Metamor Fusion, there's no half of this and half of that, otherwise Fused Zamas would have a mix of pink and white hair. Unless you go with "non-official" sources, like DB Fusions/Heroes, where Fusions don't follow the standard design, but are all over the place because they think more of what is cool (to them). So, what I'm saying, is that Fused Zamas IS in Rosé, but doesn't have pink hair because only Goku can change hair color when achieving that power. It's like Toppo using God Ki against Goku, he doesn't have red mustaches and eyes, just the aura changes. Unless you count that time where TOEI turned him into Broly of Destruction Toppo... 🤦‍♂️ But that's TOEI's fetish for uber muscular transformations.

@realScottThomas

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao for reals.. Geekdom tripping when he said it's a mutation lol.

@Lord_teleport

2 жыл бұрын

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@darkman452

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't the reason why merged zamasu hair is white because both personalities are both zamasu and there for have the appearance of zamasu Sorry for the repeats it's just ridiculous

@diddly-squat9332

2 жыл бұрын

@@darkman452 Of that war the case, then he wouldn't look like a mix between Gokū and Zamas. Most of the hair and the body are Gokū's, the face and skin are of Zamas; even the clothes are a mix, shaped like Zamas' but colored like Black's.

@ozero00rockon

2 жыл бұрын

From what I see, the Potara Fusion took Goku Black’s transformation, the other Zamasu’s immortality, and adapted it into one Merged Zamasu. The appearance of Merged Zamasu is permanently in Super Saiyan Rosé as a result and would not need to transform. It wasn’t until Goku shot Merged Zamasu and Kaioken kicked him in the head is what caused his corruption to kick in essentially killing Goku Black. The immortal part is what contributed in making his body to act out.

Its about time someone explained that it wasnt his version of regular super saiyan. But super saiyan blue.

@ahsanvirk130

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@LongThickVeinyBBC

4 ай бұрын

its sad that this even has to be explained in the first place smh lol

"DON'T SHOOT HIS NOT BLACK" -Trunks a hilarious line I'll never forget😂😂😂

@Jstielo

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao same

@jaxthelegendyt8443

2 жыл бұрын

How's that funny? 😐

@ThatGuyIsToxic

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaxthelegendyt8443 Because there's truth behind every joke 😪

I always theorized that since Zamasu was a god, Black had god ki by default or in his base. So rose to him would just be super saiyan but functionally blue. And the stamina issue is much less prevalent because he doesn’t have to consciously transform and maintain god ki at the same time.

@DarthKamui

Жыл бұрын

There's Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (SS). Super Saiyan God SS is just the first Super Saiyan form combined with the power of Super Saiyan God. In the DBS manga, Super Saiyan Rosé is the deity version of Super Saiyan God SS. In the DBS anime and SDBH, Super Saiyan Rosé is the first Super Saiyan form alone, but Zamasu's god ki affected the color and aura (and possibly raised the power boost), hence why we get Super Saiyan Rosé 2 and 3 in SDBH, but not Super Saiyan Blue 2 and 3.

Not trying to be a hater and I feel like that’s what you chalk up as anyone saying something negative towards you or your content: this video was just not particularly good and I see in the comments immediately im not the only one who is thinking the same thing: 1. Rosé is, quite literally, never stated to be the “dark or polluted” counterpart to Super Saiyan Blue. 2. You even put the manga panels up yourself where Zamasu says this is what a deity looks like as a Super Saiyan God. 2a. Head canon talking: my interpretation of this was.... basically if Goku and Vegeta somehow ascended into an actual God. Like a GOD or, somehow, a Kai... their transformation into Super Saiyan Blue, would become Super Saiyan Rosé 2b. Goku Black is literally a deity soul in a mortal body, while Goku and Vegeta are transforming their mortal bodies into a state of being that is of a deities. Goku Black doesn’t need to transform to become a God. Ergo, Super Saiyan Rosé, is quite literally, the divine counterpart to a mortal’s Super Saiyan Blue 3. Your tangent about the white hair was just stupid. It’s not a perfected form of Rosé. It’s just a fusion blend between the two characters’ appearance. The best reach for Rosé in Merged Zamasu was when he powered up against Vegetto and had Rosé Ki. It simply has Zamasu’s white hair as the dominant appearance. 3a. Merged Zamasu’s body was failing due to him being the product of a mortal and an immortal. Video was crap, can’t believe I watched all 8 minutes of it. Took me no time to think of all of these things either so I’m not just being some loser putting you under a microscope, just being honest and real, bro

@gingkapegasis

2 жыл бұрын

Damn why you gotta do him like that 🤣

@enesaslan8622

2 жыл бұрын

Very good comment. I gotta say Danny is lacking a lot in his latest videos. This is a great comment and I hope he acknowledges it

@darkman452

2 жыл бұрын

@Space Bear you didn’t read he said he wasn’t try to be a hater

@natethelate3516

2 жыл бұрын

@@enesaslan8622 Thank you. That was more or less my primary objective here. For him to evaluate the fact: the content quality has gone down a bit. I mean, he may say fuck my opinion, but shit I’m a fan if you don’t care what your audience has to say, and not to mention acknowledge the fact I took the time to write this out-it kind of proves one doesn’t give a damn about their audience. Geekdom almost always is the first to get on someone if they either 1. Say something well misinformed about the series or 2. Say something slightly incorrect. To that end, and he may or may not agree, I believe he’s a perfectionist of the series, or at least has been doing this for so long and has said comments about “other people are getting a lot of this stuff wrong” - who are also trying to make ends-meat by creating content; that I’d expect him to innately hold himself to his own standards. And like I said in my original comment - all of which I stated was straight forward information and not something hidden in a guidebook or secret extra. Just kind of am shocked he’d post a video saying Rosé is the dark version of blue which is shitty head canon. (Edit; not even head canon cause it’s just never even implied it’s a dark transformation, just a poorly articulated thought) Again, not a hater or some loser putting him under a microscope. Just a fan... with a brain.. actually listening and watching the video.

@natethelate3516

2 жыл бұрын

@@gingkapegasis I would want someone to let me know my video sucked after I had a history of proclaiming a lot of people covering dragon ball information are wrong and that my dragon ball information is right. My ego was my only ulterior motive to posting this. It really bothered me how wrong this video was, and honestly, I was looking forward to this one...!

Goku Black Super Saiyan Rose might be the most overpowered super saiyan form in Dragonball Super. The stuff that Goku Black could perform :Spatial/temporal disruption and creation of different weapons out of ki is just incredible. Makes me wonder, did they purposely create merged Zamasu just as a way to destroy Goku Black?

I think that the aura is a manifestation of one's soul (intends, behavior, deeds, personality). Ki itself is a manifestation of the soul represented and granting a living being powers from inside out. That been said, depending on who is using the ki energy, the aura will differ in colour, shape and so on. Captain Gyniu for example also has purple aura, even when he uses ki energy in Goku's body. Goku Black in base form on Goku's body has blackish purple aura and ki; which Goku has never used before, because Goku's natural energy has always been blue or white (white for his aura and blue for ki blasts). I say this, based on all previous Goku's ki blast and aura in base form. They were either blue or white. In other words, ki energy has nothing to do with one's physical body. It has to do with one's soul. It doesn't mater if they are cells of a saiyan or if it is a god entity cell (DNA). The ki manifests differently depending on who is using the ki and not the body of who (it's not the body that manifest ki, but the "will" of who is using it). Of course it has nothing to do with the regular ssj transformation, because Vegeta's energy in base form is purple too. His Garlick Gun and some other energy blast are in most cases purple, and despite that, not only Vegeta, but every saiyan who transformed into ssj ended up with yellow hair (even if their souls shines differently if we could describe it like that). I believe when you master your ki (resulting in god ki) allows you to have a deeper access to yourself (soul) and pulls it out in a way that takes over your own body, in the case of a saiyan, it takes over the S cells within their bodies. It's like this: you take over of yourself. Your true YOU shows up, and the body in this case is nothing more but a shell. Goku and the others are strong not because their because their bodies are strong, but because their both mind and spirits are connected. For example, if a standard human switch bodies with Goku, that human if shot by a regular gun will probably die even if he is in Goku's body. I clarified this, because saiyans transformed into ssj because of their S cells within their bodies that every saiyan has, but it also has nothing to do with ki itself, and the manifestation of their aura, because cells (physical body) has nothing to do with aura itself. Regular ssj is a transformation to the body, it's not related to your soul, but it does shape who you are when you transform (personality, behaviour and so on). That's why saiyans undergo that transformation on their physical body when they transform into regular ssj and ends up with yellow hair. It's a mutation to their DNA. Their aura also turns yellow not because of the transformation itself, but because of the behaviour needed for that transformation (rage, anger, pride). Zamasu's energy has always been purple, so when he uses god ki, he access his true self and manifest it in the inside out. Basically, the saiyans cells matters nothing to who masters their soul, so Zamasu turns "Zamasu" even if he is in Goku's body, taking over the S cells of Goku's body. It seems that S cells react to the god ki allowing it to shape and mutate according to the user. It's hard to say this, because we have only seen Goku and Vegeta in blue form; which makes us wonder why they both have the same hair color even if their souls differ. And of course, we have seen Zamasu in rose... god ki does mutate the S cells for some yet unknown reason... Fused Zamasu got white hair because his original hair is white, plus spiked because of Goku's black ssj rose hair, just that... Why it's not rose? Because his original self took over the S cells. It seems only the S cells allow someone to mutate when using god ki. His aura is purple not because of rose, but because he had always had purple aura within him. ... It's very hard and complicated... It's either that or it works just for looks and sell products :) It can also be lazy writing... I can be wrong, but I'm not totally out of it... The thing is, we don't have an official answer, and the answer will always be what Akira decides to be in the end... Until then, we can presume based on samples and come up with theories just like I did. Hope you liked it.

@tophergofer9895

Жыл бұрын

Bro that was the most beautiful, simple, and in depth explication of anything in DragonBall I have ever had the privilege of becoming privy to. Thank you, you should be very proud.

@nicolasblauthdemattos9803

Жыл бұрын

@@tophergofer9895 You know, I had really forgotten I came up with a deeply explanation like this one a year ago. I'm really glad you liked my point of view over this matter. It seems it was not a waste of time to write all that down if someone like you enjoyed what I wrote. Thanks for reading and for sharing your thoughts. Recently, I haven't be feeling so well (mentally) and your commentary, like, made my day. Thanks. I really appreciate it.

😁This is absolutely amazing Geekdom.

@TheChad900

2 жыл бұрын

Bro always be first 😂💯 I fwi tho

Imagine Ginyu stealing Goku Black's body.

@slimsolo1384

2 жыл бұрын

u cant steal what has already been stolen

@bottlemanepic3781

2 жыл бұрын

Ultra stolen body

@NeonoahGaming

2 жыл бұрын

He’d probably be weaker, since he doesn’t know how to use Goku’s body

@michaeleverett1376

2 жыл бұрын

Xenoverse 2 already did that.

@bottlemanepic3781

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaeleverett1376 not in the story.

Remembering this leak feels like yesterday , I was 16

Been waiting on this, great video as always Geekdom

I know sources in this are probably more scarce than other forms, but it seems weird to me that Geekdom referenced the colored version of the manga. If I'm not mistaken, hasn't he dismissed the colors in that version as erroneous regarding other topics?

Great video! So glad you discussed that SSJ Rose' is a varient of SSJ Blue and not just his version of SSJ. Those of us that have even minuscule knowledge of the manga have known this for years. I do wish they would've shown this in the anime, as well as SSJG Vegeta. Would've made chronological sense when Vegeta uses the form in DBS: Broly since we would've seen it much earlier.

@vonatethegod3244

2 жыл бұрын

Anime =\= manga anime reg ssj manga ssjb duh

@TreyHallRH3

2 жыл бұрын

@@vonatethegod3244 But why would rose be his version of super saiyan when he is a real deity who already has god ki? Like i understand its innate but blue is super saiyan with god ki and that's essentially what rose is but in reverse so that makes it equivalent to blue

@vonatethegod3244

2 жыл бұрын

@@TreyHallRH3 not how it works at all blue is ssjg that went ssj so god is like a base n blue is like a super Saiyan they literally explain it do u not watch the show

@joswasi4144

2 жыл бұрын

@@vonatethegod3244 incorrect, ssjr is ssjb but with real god ki. End of discussion

@shawziiz5031

2 жыл бұрын

@@vonatethegod3244 Get life dude

Ssj blue is also multi colored in its aura, it's interior is white, it's second lair is blue and it's outline is yellow Also fused zamasu most likely has white hair because he, Future zamasu and goku black and one and the same in that they are both different versions of zamasu and his hair was naturally white before they fused so, it kept the color of his natural hair color but changed to the ssi hair shape

Well done as usual my dude

yoo this vid was insightfull as ffff, keep it up geekdom bra

Goku Black as the Crimson Masked Saiyan Going Rose was way more Beautiful thanks to the Red Eyes

I do wonder if Rose was made solely so that Goku and Goku Black's close up faces wouldn't look identical when they were both in the same place. I feel like that's why we didn't see regular SSJ Goku Black in the anime, and only against Vegeta in the manga. Either way, it's a great color, I love the aura.

It's prolly my favorite transformation. Not just bc of the hair, eyes and aura color, but also the only way to achieve it and the abilities it gives him

When I first saw it. Boi I was speechless. I never thought that form existed lmao.

I was waiting for something like this video , thanks

Now if only someone can explain Super Saiyan Rose 2 and 3 from Heroes. Yes... they exist! Heroes gets way too weird sometimes and I love it!

@DarkHyperSonic7

2 жыл бұрын

If you look at Rose as an equivalent to Blue, Rose 2 and 3 are just the god forms whose powers are amplified by the Super Saiyan 2 and 3 transformations. at least that's what I think

@thebean6496

2 жыл бұрын

Rose 3 and 2 is him combining ssjr with ssj2 and 3

The Rose explanation right after the buffs on DBFz, Goku black fans are having a good time rn

The white hair to me makes more sense because in essence it's basically 2 Zamasu's merging but still has the super Saiyan rose from Goku's body and his essence in that body. No merging of Gods and Men

I remember the rage Geekdom, QAAMan, & MikeLSM displayed in the all star DB talk about this arc and how trash Super’s storytelling was. Those were the good ol’ days. Those talks were more entertaining than Super itself. Vegito being teased then only shown for minutes was the biggest disappointment in Super outside of Trunks suddenly forming a spirit bomb from a desolate planet.

im glad you made this video

Geekdom, THANK YOU. People have thought that Rose was Black's "Normal" Super Saiyan form when it's painfully obvious by the form's use of God Ki, which a Normal Super Saiyan doesn't have. I'm glad that the manga actually showed Black using normal Super Saiyan and his version of Blue (Rose), but the lie still persisted. So hopefully, you can silence that lie more concretely, even though there still will be people in the fandom that hold onto that lie.

@vonatethegod3244

2 жыл бұрын

Anime it’s reg ssj in manga it’s ssjb they literally say it 💀 if u don’t believe brain dead

@whitephoenix4230

2 жыл бұрын

@@vonatethegod3244 You made it too obvious that you're trolling, dude. Stop it.

@joswasi4144

2 жыл бұрын

@@vonatethegod3244 incorrect

@vonatethegod3244

2 жыл бұрын

@@joswasi4144 no incorrect

@whitephoenix4230

2 жыл бұрын

@@vonatethegod3244 You clearly didn't watch Geekdom's video, because he himself debunked you with official information, I might add. Your commitment to the act in the face of something that shatters it tells me that you're indeed trolling. Again: stop.

Super Saiyan Rose had such a creative and colorful look to it!

Isn't it Beautiful?? Seriously? SSR Is My Favourite Form

You know what'd be cool? If there were a variant that used an angel's power instead of a kai's power.

Another well done explanation fam!!

Geekdom is the DBZ version of Swagkage.

Yes yes yes, thank you for making this video

This was so much hype when this form debuted everyone was so surprised when they saw a pink super saiyan

If dragon ball better explained and had more in detail info in the actual manga instead of guides or what have you’s people who don’t grasp or understand would probably find the concepts and ideas very cool it takes time to analyze and enjoy super tbh if it already isn’t flushed out correctly

That old clip with the Rosè card is so nostalgic. I remember watching that vid and I was extremely hyped for this transformation. Even though it was a bit underwhelming in the anime

@ArcaneSorcery

2 жыл бұрын

Underwhelming?

@TrolluxCaptor

2 жыл бұрын

@@ArcaneSorcery yeah it wasn’t as epic as it could have been. The direction and animation team should have stepped it up a little bit

@ArcaneSorcery

2 жыл бұрын

@@TrolluxCaptor true

@95zakariya_

Жыл бұрын

i was so young when that came out man, i literally remember where i was when that leak came out as well 😭😭

I like how it is Goku Black's version of SSB with twisted abilities thanks to him bring Zamazu.

Goku Black made the Pink looks badass,it really suits to his Divine Rage

Super saiyan rose is when the soul of a god takes over a saiyan’s body. But what if a saiyan became a god? Not meaning the transformation but the actual position and divine energy, or does that only apply for kais. Also this and Ginyu prove the chi is related to the soul and body, both play a part in one’s energy signature and possible physical abilities. Maybe rose is due to a general soul transfer, could the soul of a god have caused a genetic mutation thus giving super saiyan rose? There are so many possibilities.

The toriyama and anime statement of ssj rose being goku blacks ssj are both valid, it’s just which one you prefer to use.

I always figured that Fused Zamasu was like that because Goku Black was Super Saiyan Rosè when they fused. Kinda like how in the Buu Saga Elder Kai said to make sure they weren’t super Saiyan when they fused with the Potara earrings because the roll was too great on the body and it would shorten their lifespan and I thought that was also what was happening to fused Zamasu

Goku Black is the only character to make Pink badass

Something interesting is that in DBS Broly, Goku and Vegeta transform from SSJ to SSG differently. Goku kind of sucks his aura in and it turns red, while Vegeta's flows out wrapping around him.

👌well explained

It's a badass transformation indeed.

Merged Samazu had white hair and pink aura Same as Gohan who has white hair and pink aura with his beast form , his power was brought out by the old Kai Maybe Gohan tapped in that power

Thanks for this breakdown. I always thought merged Zamasu hair was white because of the original Zamasu hair being white but the spikes from Goku black rose makes more sense to me.

I love this form!!!

My favorite forms in Dragon Ball 1. Super Saiyan 4 2. Super Saiyan Rosè 3. Super Saiyan 2 4. Super Saiyan God

This video makes me remeber how muchI hate Bandai for keeping adding new cashgrab DLC in Xenoverse 2, breaking ALL OF MY MODS in the process.

The reason that merged Zamasu hair looks like Super Saiyan Rosè but white instead of pink is because Goku Black was using Super Saiyan Rosè when he fused with Zamasu if Goku Black was in his base form when he fused with Zamasu then merged Zamasu would have been able to transform into Super Saiyan Rosè its like what Elder Kai told Goku to not fuse while in Super Saiyan or they will always be in Super Saiyan and be unable to transform back into their base form

Mortals can become gods, or imitations of gods, and Rose is basically just that. The difference between blue and rose is that one is an imitation, a mortal reaching the heights of a god, whereas the other is the actual deity itself. Rose is the way it's supposed to end, when mastered properly, but can only be mastered by someone with the "soul/spirit" of a deity. I like the explanation of how you brought up the stamina drain issue, and if you'll recall it was similar to the Android saga where SSJ and full powered SSJ had that difference. I believe it's similar here, in that the only way to TRULY master blue, is to be an actual deity. Side note, I do like how Akira Toriyama admitted he shouldn't have called red "Super Saiyan God" and should've just called it Saiyan God, because blue being called "Super Saiyan God" would've made a lot more sense. I mean, what about red is actually "super saiyan" like? Nothing. Akira Toriyama should've just changed it in the manga and made it a part of the storyline where the Oracle fish predicted blue would be the form Beerus actually fought, not red. Instead, we get "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan" which is so stupid, and glad the show made fun of it too. Could've definitely gone SSJ2 and SSJ3 if he had just fixed the naming mistake lol.

That Outro instrumental fire Af!

Rose was such a cool form I love the aura form too

Zamasu mixing Ki of a God with Super Saiyan.

I kinda hope or think anyone with god ki as a saiyan can get this because it’s really cool

Super saiyan rose is when a saiyan of divine origin surpasses super saiyan god. Goku and vegeta turned blue because they are mortals who use god ki while zamasu being a Kai is already technically a god. In the anime super saiyan rose is goku black’s version of super saiyan which makes sense since in heroes he turns rose 2 and 3

Aint gonna lie this super saiyan rose is the most badass looking character in whole dragon ball

Hey Geekdom, have you ever considered doing a technique guide about Tri Beam? Fucking love that attack and its super underrated!

@shawziiz5031

2 жыл бұрын

Well of course it super underrated, because the user - Tien is super super underrated. I still hate how TOP arc did dirty on him

@bastiancardenas5226

2 жыл бұрын

@@shawziiz5031 Yup, to this day it's painful

Maaan I remember being so mad and butthurt when Super Saiyan Rose was leaked and thought it was going to be the most idiotic form. And the minute it debuted it became one of my favorite transformations within the entire franchise. So beautiful. So strong. Immediately made an impact.

It's a beautiful form but just like most things in super really under used

thank you!!!

Who made those Street Fighter 4 styled art pieces? Those are sick!

Finally!

Rose is my favorite transformation. I loved it the minute I saw it 🥺🥺

I didn't realize that he was watching GodTube and Goku's fight with Hit to learn everything.

Y do I feel Goten would be good as SSR? On another note. How does Goku Black compare to other fighters if he doesn't have Zamasu? How about Gohan Black!? Golden Goku Black does look awesome Zamasu and gods being able to master techs/forms faster than regular beings makes a lot of sense. I feel a god would have no drawbacks compared to normal beings that have to work for that higher knowledge. So essentially a god would be able to learn any technique and easily master it much faster I wonder if Rose is connected to Ssj Red since their both the same color, Rose is just a different shade amazing. At first glance this all looks like flashes of different colors but like u explained with the white still having a rose aura, this was all orchestrated. Great work from Dragon Ball! Such a great series. DB, DBZ and DBS

Super Saiyan Rose is polluted and evil? I thought it was the same thing as Blue, just pink because it's being used by an actual god.

@BoringPhonger

2 жыл бұрын

It is it’s what happened when someone with a divine status surpasses SSGSS

I know in the manga it says that it's a version of SSJ Blue, but in the anime especially how base Black thought SSJ 2 Goku than took shots form Blue Vegeta in BASE. That sounds like it's just blacks version of SSJ in the anime just with a rose tint color hair. When I hear about black's new form I was like ''okay that's cool'', but when they showed it in animation it was awesome it just worked, miss those days.

Nice channel

Ok yall this is a actual explanation as you know goku black is a Kai basically a god so his god ki is way more stronger than goku and he has way more experience also remember goku is a mortal while goku black only his body but he is still a kai so what if rose is basically the Kai’s equivalent to super sayain blue but also it is blue but with more control and potential and I think bc goku black has Kai’s god ki he has Less draw backs and since he has goku body he has all the potential of goku and remember goku has super sayain blue and is fighting black so what if it unlocked goku black super sayain transformation but buffed bc he is a kai 🎉 mystery solved

i remember seeing the episodes of this form, super saiyan rose was so powerful even goku and vegeta super saiyan blue fighting together was no match.

I really wonder how ssr would look in shinyani's style (the style of the broly film)but in my opinion it would probably look more pinkish since blue in super looked kinda cyan without the aura while in the broly film it just looks you know BLUE, also pink is (in my opinion)more visually appealing then the color of ssr's hair but let me know what you think🤔

Great video!! I would love for Toriyama to come out and explicitly say original super saiyan is mutation of powerful saiyans without their tails. The only reason bardock transformed was he somewhat died but was caught in a gray area where he did have the properties of his tail even though he physically still has his tail. This is my own personal head canon though. It probably will never happen. It's fun to come up with fan stories or theories to explain Dragonball lore.

@montecristosmith2343

11 ай бұрын

I've heard of a similar theory usually connected to GT. That the "true" SSJ is basically the golden oozaru and the humanoid versions are just lesser forms with the exception of SSJ4.

Kinda makes you think about how powerful a Goku-Shin fusion would have been in the buu ark if Shin hadn’t talked it down as something that would be a weak fusion.

@dark-xh7fs

2 жыл бұрын

Weaker than vegito for sure. But Above gotenks.

The reason why they went for Pink with Super Saiyan Rosé, is because the invert color (nagative) of Blue is Pink

I can see where people say the darker tones of pink can mean more power as vegetas evolved form was a darker shade of blue, but its most likely just animation/coloring differences/errors

One of my most favorite characters

There's Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (SS). Super Saiyan God SS is just the standard Super Saiyan form combined with the power of Super Saiyan God. In the DBS Manga, Super Saiyan Rosé is the deity version of Super Saiyan God SS. In the DBS Anime and SDBH, Super Saiyan Rosé is the standard Super Saiyan form alone, but Zamasu's God Ki affected the color and aura (and possibly gave it an extra power boost), hence why we get Super Saiyan Rosé 2 and 3 but not Super Saiyan Blue 2 and 3. Blue Evolved is literally a different evolution.

@quanthebronxny3996

Жыл бұрын

In the DB Super anime and DB Fusions only is SSJ Rose Blacks version of the standard SSJ form. In all other media, SSJ Rose is a Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan form for actual deities. Even in Heroes, cards of Goku Black translated his SSJ Rose forms as “Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan “, “Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 2” or “Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 3”.

Still to this day one of my favorite forms of ssj. Goku Black is just awesome

The Merged Zamasu thing shouldn’t even be a question Zamasu’s the dominant personality because they’re both Zamasu. That’s why the hair’s white

makes sense given how potara works, and i feel that the corrupted form is a refference to the issues old kai warned goku about fusing while transformed

Goku Black's arc is my current DBS favorite and im dying on this hill...probably alone🤣

The only part of the potara fusiuon that got "retconned" was the time limit for mortals and kaioshins. Didn't elder kai say something in DBZ in the BUU Saga that, goku and vegeta should fuse in their base then go super saiyan after fusing. What we see in DBS is Goku Black in his SS Rose fusing with Zamasu, which is where he's getting his spiked white hair. i'm pretty sure if goku black fused with zamasu in his base, the fusion would look different. I think both fusing with a mortal and fusing in non-base made the fusion corrupted.

@ozero00rockon

2 жыл бұрын

It was because Goku Black was a mortal and Future Zamasu was immortal. This tainted the fusion. It wasn’t tainted until Goku shot a powerful God Kamehameha Wave at Merged Zamasu. This obliterated Goku Black which is why at one point you hear only a singular Zamasu’s voice instead of an unison voice.

Love Goku Black because it reminds me of Turles off Tree Of Might