Excellent job sir! And I'm pleasantly surprised to see we pretty much both came to the same conclusions. I always get nervous that my outcomes are just plain wrong. Especially on the older videos. And thanks for the shout out at the end!

@zanegandini5350

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it was fun watching you guys re-watching your Aladdin episode. Even Console Wars was ashamed of their Console Wars stage.

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks guys, and glad to! i get that too, but mostly just on the current video that everyone is watching haha.

@majakmajak7596

6 жыл бұрын

Console Wars you were wrong. Super Castlevania IV is better.

@JVenom

6 жыл бұрын

@Majak Majak A lot of people would disagree. But you're entitled to your opinion.

@twangyeh

6 жыл бұрын

Super Castlevania IV wins on atmosphere at least!

I've always preferred Bloodlines as well

@EDifyer881

5 жыл бұрын

Same here it's unique so fresh and they stepped outside the box unlike scIv

@tsitracommunications2884

5 жыл бұрын

Hear hear Bloodlines for the win

@dagonhandfield-burgess2317

5 жыл бұрын

Same

@BIastProcX

4 жыл бұрын

Iron Blue Intention is just soooo good

@tsitracommunications2884

4 жыл бұрын

Hear, hear

It's criminal how underrated your channel is. The content, quality, and production of your videos are better than most sponsored channels with huge budgets. Keep up the good work!!

@backinthedaygamer

6 жыл бұрын

Prince Noctis is right, it is criminal!? I always assumed the SNES version was better bc that's all u hear about. I've still not played Bloodlines. But after watching ur vid???

@LotoTheHero

6 жыл бұрын

Bloodlines is really good. If you have a Genesis, and like Castlevania, it's a must play. Eric Lecarde(spear user) plays better than John Morris imho. I'd start with him if you decide to give it a go.

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that, glad to hear it pays off.

@backinthedaygamer

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks I def will pick it up. I don't see it that often though. I'm trying to only snag games in the wild. No more EBay. Probly lol

@TekMoliGy

6 жыл бұрын

on the plus side i have noticed that almost all the big retro gaming channels seem to watch this one so it isn't going unappreciated

This is one of the occasions were I prefer not to compare the games, mainly due to the fact that Castlevania IV was a launch title and Bloodlines was released much later in the Genesis console life which meant they had more experience with the system and could get more out of the hardware (there is no way Bloodlines could exist in it's final form if it was a Genesis launch game). Same reason I don't really compare Dracula X to Rondo of Blood since you are taking a full CD based game and attempting to shrink it down to fit into a cartridge of limited space, sacrifices are going to be made. All the games are fun to play regardless though so you can't really go wrong with either choice.

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

i can see that, there is a good amount of age between them, but it would come up a often in the SNES vs Genesis playground arguments i remember having with friends. plus, as said, I love the fact that Konami released all these different games on different platforms. SC4 on SNES but Bloodlines on Genesis, Contra 3 on SNES but Hard Corps on Genesis, Tiny Toons, Sparkster, Animaniacs... at some point i'd love to discuss each of these on the channel

@yohkom.7988

6 жыл бұрын

+Wolfsite Except that I can guarantee you that both Castlevania IV and Bloodlines weren't made on the same scale. Castlevania IV was a main project done by Konami A-Team and with more development time while Bloodlines was made by Konami B-Team or C-Team (if that makes sense but apparently it does) and with smaller budget. The single fact that Bloodlines only relies on a 8 meg cart, for a late 1993 release, is already revealing. The first 8 meg cart on Mega Drive was in 1990 with Strider, that's 3 years before! So your point doesn't apply here. Had Bloodlines being developed by Konami A-Team and using a 16 meg cart, this would have been different but as it is, no. And this also means that, as excellent as Bloodlines already is, we can only imagine how amazing it could have been with 100% involvement and huge cart. This, or a Bloodlines II, being the one with 100% involvement and using a 16 meg (or more) cartridge, released in 1996... or a Mega-CD Bloodlines... given what the Mega-CD is capable of, this could have been the single best Castlevania ever...

@Halbared

3 жыл бұрын

It's nice to have context.

They're both two of the best 16 bit games ever made. There are no losers here.

@mattydaddy7672

6 жыл бұрын

James Stone truer words have never been spoken, I think what it all boils down to is which you grew up with. I had been playing SCIV for quite a while before I ever got bloodlines so it is my favorite but bloodlines is great too. They both have given me countless hours of enjoyment and fond memories. Watching my 5 year old son work at getting through SCIV though is the best thing ever. It's like watching 5 year old me discovering the world of castlevania for the first time.

@dude_8434

4 жыл бұрын

There certainly is a loser.... Count Dracula.

@pferreira1983

3 жыл бұрын

@@dude_8434 True. Ha, ha!

Was looking for a good comparison on Gauntlet Legends and now I find myself going through most of the videos on your channel; great stuff!

You know in Bloodlines, if you hold down the attack button, you get different attacks, too?

I'm an SNES person, but I like being able to spin the spear around on bloodlines, which you didn't even bring up. I do love both games though.

I'm not going to say Super Castlevania IV is bad, but it's definitely at least a little bit overrated. Bloodlines is absolutely one of the very best Mega Drive games in my opinion, and I love it.

@Yengwa

6 жыл бұрын

It’s absolutely overrated. It’s a good game, but not the greatest ever. Bloodlines is a great Genesis game, not the best Castlevania though. I’d say Bloodlines edges out IV for me though.

@yohkom.7988

6 жыл бұрын

+shadowshinobi06 You're a fanboy. First off, Castlevania Bloodlines was released in the middle of the Genesis commercial lifespan, not the end. Then it's more unique than Castlevania IV in a number of ways: the original setting with various places to visit, various characters to play with, the creative visual effects, surreal atmosphere (which goes beyond "just horror")... And for your information, Bloodlines was "only" developed by Konami B or C team, it's obvious since it only uses a 8 meg cart which was pretty lame for a late 1993 release (the first 8 meg cart on Genesis was Strider, in 1990, that's 3 years before!) but still, it's an excellent game (personally it's my favorite Castlevania along with Akumajō Dracula for the X68000) so imagine how amazing it could have been had it being developed by Konami A-team and on a 16 meg cart? This is what Contra Hard Corps did btw. Also while Castlevania IV is indeed impressive for such an early SNES title, it also highlights a huge problem with the SNES: the quite limited hardware which left little to no margin for future games to be any more impressive. I mean, what are some of the most impressive SNES games? Contra III, Super Aleste or Castlevania IV and all are early SNES games. That's pretty sad actually.

@yohkom.7988

6 жыл бұрын

The first Mega Drive games were released in october, 1988. Bloodlines was initially released in december, 1993. The last official Mega Drive games were released in late 1998. So as I said, Bloodlines is mid-gen. Then more content is better only if it's quality content, which is the case with Bloodlines. And none of these SNES games are more impressive than Super Aleste. Super Aleste actually pushed the SNES more than almost every other SNES games by using the sound CPU to help for the animation, hence why it has almost zero slowdowns despite the amount of stuff going on. And the way you tried to downplay the Mega Drive with your first post here as well as the fact that you were mostly wrong by doing so sounded like fanboyism but glad to hear that you aren't. Personally I own neither a Mega Drive nor a SNES but I do play both at friend houses as well as about every other existing systems out there ^^ (but I also own a few things, namely a PC Engine and a Saturn)

@yohkom.7988

6 жыл бұрын

There were official Mega Drive games released in 1997 and 1998 which is all that matters here. And too many stuff going on makes a distraction?! It IS the distraction since Super Aleste is a shooter and usually these games benefit of being hectic, same goes for others genres such as run 'n guns or beat 'em ups.

@vasileios6301

5 жыл бұрын

+Yohko M. Yes but later it had Donkey Kongs and Doom,impressive stuff.

First and foremost, your content is probably some of the best and well thought out on KZread. I really enjoyed this video and I will be watching more of your videos. As an older gamer that grew up with these I always felt that Bloodlines while good, was always less than Castlevania 4. I thought the graphics and sound were decent but not even close to what the Genesis could truly output. Looking at games like Thunder Force IV and Streets of Rage 2 showed that the Genesis had some major chops when it came to graphical capabilities that towards the end of its life span, developers seemed to forget. At any rate, I wish Konami would stop messing around and give us a Castlevania compilation collection. I would lice to see Castlevania, Castlevania 2, Castlevania 3, Castlevania 4, Castlevania Bloodlines, Castlevania Rondo of Blood, and Symphony of the Night on one collection. Furthering this, I would live to see the first 5 games get a face lift in order to match both Rondo and Symphony of the Night. Lastly, the release of Rondo in Japan and on the PC Engine only really made me very angry with Konami. We had several great machines that could have done it justice. From the Sega CD (should have happened) to an actual cart release for the Genesis would have been great...not to mention the Saturn or PSX are practically no brainers...alas we are talking about idiot Konami who has squandered every last geeat property they gave ever had on....fucking pachinko machine's and stupid cellphone games for the idiot cellphone only crowd.

I would of imagine Rondo of Blood and Dracula X would make a good comparrison

Awesome video. Always worth the wait.

Great episode, man! I'll be looking forward to the next one!

Please don't stop making these. They are very awesome.

Great choice for subject matter! Glad you're making more videos! Thanks!

Mate, I would go with Super Castlevania over Bloodlines, mostly because I really prefer its faster feeling gameplay, but, you're right about Bloodlines being more like the classic Castlevania style. This really is one of those ones where it's a tough decision which is the best. Bloodlines usually gets overlooked. I seem to remember it not reviewing amazingly back in the day but that may have just been UK reviewers as Castlevania wasn't super huge here. I feel the need to play both again now. Good work getting this episode out for Halloween man.

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

It's very possible, I didn't go back looking for magazine reviews or anything. I saw SC4 in Nintendo Power of course, but only ever bought a few issues of EGM or others that would cover Sega. And I can't fault anyone for liking SC4, it's a super solid game, and as i said, you really can't go wrong with it.

@yohkom.7988

6 жыл бұрын

+Mellow Gaming Except that it's Bloodlines which has faster and also smoother gameplay. btw I remember that Castlevania IV got a score of 78% in a magazine, I'll put a link if I can retrieve the review. But the point is that magazines have never been all that reliable but at the same time reviews is more or less a subjective thing.

@yohkom.7988

6 жыл бұрын

+shadowshinobi06 Do you really base your opinion on magazine scores? xD

@yohkom.7988

6 жыл бұрын

+shadowshinobi06 I posted this regarding OP, that's all ;)

@Sairot247

4 жыл бұрын

Bloodlines feels a lot faster

Oh man im so happy to see you are still making videos! Good work as always!

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

slowly, but surely. thanks!

SNESDRUNK brought me here. Subscribed.

Just found your channel. I’m loving it. Thanks for keeping it PG so my kids can enjoy it too.

Nice video mate, I really appreciate your delivery and editing style. These were both special games for me growing up, and the music still stands as a testament to what a skilled composer\engineer could tweak out of those chipsets!

How have i missed this channel for so long?? Subbed

Yay! Another Game Vs. Game video came out! Thanks Eric!

I need to get both of these games. I've played bits and pieces of both but I've never owned them as I always play them at conventions/shows. Great video as always dude nice to see you back on KZread bringing awesome content with you.

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

cheers Dan! weren't both of these quite pricey in the UK if i remember right? i was keeping an eye out for a cheap US cart but sadly haven't been game hunting much recently.

Im sure I am completely biased, but Super Castlevania IV takes the cake for me.

Man, you're videos are great! You should release them more often, once a month at least. Cheers!

This particular video got randomly suggested to me while watching game related content on my PS3. After finishing it, I felt compelled to fire up the laptop just so I could leave you a comment. Videogaming in YT really needs more representation by individuals such as yourself, dear Eric. You can tell when something is made with passion, and boy, does yours show through this video. Thoughtful, informative, well researched, concise... You CAN be entertaining through quality. From someone that's very appreciative of the hard work you clearly put into this, THANK YOU.

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

wow thanks so much, i love hearing that from viewers, super glad you found your way here and hope you'll stick around :) p.s. Power Stone kicks ass!

@powerstoneworld2807

6 жыл бұрын

Now that you said that, Eric, I feel like playing with you in an online-enabled rerelease of Power Stone and Power Stone 2. But guess what: we can't, since Capcom keeps ignoring the property, for some reason... That's part of the reason why I decided to upload videos of me playing Power Stone 2. They're nothing like yours, mind you - they're non-professional, and filmed with a simple digital camera, but I still feel great imagining even one person out there in the world made aware of the series' existence by one of my videos :D

Just discovered your channel. Most excellent!

I just got an SNES Classic and am playing Castlevania IV for the first time. It's good, but not nearly as good as the Bloodlines I grew up with. Nice video.

Thx for a new episode!1 Love your channel!! Cheers

Very nice comparison, and I agree that Bloodlines is the better game. One thing that would have been great to mention is that Bloodlines actually has a sequel, which is Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin on the DS. A _fantastic_ game with two playable characters, one of them being John's son, Jonathan Morris. You also meet Eric Lecarde's spirit who serves as your aid in return for doing side quests for him. Very enjoyable game, and you owe it to yourself to play it if you liked Bloodlines. It's actually my favorite Castlevania on the DS, although I loved all 3 of them.

@yohkom.7988

6 жыл бұрын

Hey that's interesting! I knew that Portrait of Ruin reused at least one music from Bloodlines but not that both games were so tied.

@MaskedGuyCh

6 жыл бұрын

Yohko M. Yeah, it was nice to see that Konami hasn't completely forgotten about Bloodlines. Well, it was IGA who produced it, so he may be the one deserving of our thanks :p Either way, definitely check it out if you like Bloodlines and/or igavania games like SotN or the GBA Castlevanias. It has the best dialogue in any Castlevania I have played (Yes, SotN included), simply because of the two main characters, Jonathan and Charlotte. Their dynamic and banter is _so_ entertaining, you cannot help but love them.

@yohkom.7988

6 жыл бұрын

ok you make me wanna play the game now :p ... even though I actually don't like much the direction that the serie took with SotN ^^' I prefer the older, more "arcadey" entries in the serie but if Portrait of Ruin has some cool interactions with Bloodlines (which is one of my favorites Castlevania) and apparently some nice dialogs, then why not :)

@MaskedGuyCh

6 жыл бұрын

Yohko M. Well, it is kind of a shame that you didn't like SotN. It is one of my personal favorites. But yeah, definitely give PoR a try, it's a fantastic game.

@yohkom.7988

6 жыл бұрын

Eh, I never played SotN actually but I partly went through Harmony of Dissonance and Aria of Sorrow and while they have good presentation and all, I just didn't like much the gameplay mechanics which are based on SotN and I prefer the "classicvania" gameplay in comparison. But still, you make me curious enough about Portrait of Ruin. And there's Order of Ecclesia which seems good too, apparently more challenging than most Metroidvania.

Awesome video!

I sincerly think CV4 is increadibly overrated and I honestly contribute that to nostalgia. CV4 was a Snes launch title so im sure many had it growing up, thus giving it that extra push. But as far as CV4 goes as a whole, I think the game is an ok adventure title, but a boring CV entry. I play Castlevania because of the catchy music, vivid color pallete, and methodical gameplay, all of which Bloodlines retained and CV4 dropped. If I wanted a spooky, foreboding, atmospheric, horror game Id play Clocktower, or Nosferatu, thats not what the big draw of Castlevania have ever been about and I feel CV4 misses that idea while Bloodlines releshes in it. Simons control is refined in CV4 and thats just fine, but the game uses a new Simon style with old level designs and it just doesnt work. Its because of this that Simon is so overpowered, the subweapons are nearly completely useless, and the game just feels way too easy. Bloodlines on the other hand gives enhancements to an otherwise traditional style gameplay and it results in giving an old dog some new tricks, leaving the game feeling more intact with older titles while still offering something new. Tldr: CV4 is a good adventure title, but a boring CV entry and riddled with questionable design choices both aesthetically and gameplay wise that make the title feel less like a CV and more like a Vanhelsing. Bloodlines plays it a bit safer in gameplay and theme tradition while adding a few new tricks and flourishes to the mix, resulting in a more "inline" entry to the series while still having that wow factor. Both are good, but one is better. Bloodlines imo is the better CV game.

@retrosoul8770

6 жыл бұрын

Also the fact that you will literally fall to your death while walking upwards EVEN IF there's a floor or platform right below the screen!! Absolute madness. A flaw everyone loves to ignore.

@systemafunk

6 жыл бұрын

That is totally in line with the original games. Anyway, I personally think the music in CV4 is fabulous. Bloodlines is probably the best music on the Genesis, but it still suffers from iffy sound quality. And CV4 has some wonderful music. Forest of Monsters, the Treasury song, the jazz inspired piece in the Underground Waterway, all 3 original CV songs, played in order in the last 3 areas of the game (a great detail I might add). CV4 also has way more music as well. The biggest problem with CV4 is the fact that the fighting is too easy, which is related to the fact that the whip is overpowered and items are too underpowered. Either the whip should have been gimped, or the items should have been made more powerful/useful and enemies more powerful as well.

@untested3344

6 жыл бұрын

The Shadowgate Keeper Kinda like another game called Mega Man 2. I mean every other game in the franchise out does the lazy level design and weapons you get. The only reason its praised so much is better it sold the best, hence more people having nostalgia for it.

@gaupau

5 жыл бұрын

Very wrong about the nostalgia thing. Never growing up with snes, i fell in love with sciv. So fun, music is amazing, lvl design, atmosphere etc. Fantastic game

@michaelromeo9567

5 жыл бұрын

@@systemafunk Certainly not the best music on Genesis bro.. The composer didn't know the hardware and composed with only 6 voice and basic (like an 8 bit game..) and basic MegaDrive sounds. Even first generation games have better musics like Shinobi ("Shina town". "Long Distance".) Or 1989 Batman musics man💖.. Just to name old games kzread.info/dash/bejne/fI6GqLSjpaqnk8o.html

These 2 games represent some of the best games in retro gaming! Well done! Happy to say I own them both :)

Both are great but I like Bloodlines a bit better. Little bit of gore as a bonus.

@michaelromeo9567

5 жыл бұрын

@Moogle Midgar Castle Vania 4 has amazing Musics. Best on the system. But controls ? You don't know what you're talking about. So much moves you can not do in castle Vania 4 even if it has the whip cool spinning that is not efficient against boss or big ennemies. In this review it doesn't shows all the moves but only fews like hanging on ceilings/plateforms SuperJumps 3rd power up; alternative secondary weapon (super secondary weapon) but you have a second SUPER secondary weapon! You can also open your spear halberd on hit for extra damage. You can roll and spin it by maintaining the button pressed. and play with directions. That's why Bloodlines fans continue to play it whereas most Snes fans are just Nostalgic and never finish the game again. Remember that the most technical the deepest fighting game ever with biggest amount of move is Virtua Fighter Final Showdown... And it has only 3 buttons. So saying that I think maybe it's YOU whor is stupid... (sorry for my English)

I grew up with Super Castlevania IV. I know that game pretty well but when I played Bloodlines years later I was blown away. While SCIV has better controls after playing many classic Castlevania it feels way too easy. In SCIV you feel to overpowered for most of the game while in Bloodlines the two Character system gives each one something the other doesnt have. Bloodlines is more challenging due to it having the more traditional control scheme but unlike NES Castlevania it feels more fair in comparison. Bloodlines has a more balanced difficulty with each level getting increasingly difficult but also each level being completely different from the next. In SCIV levels tend to blend in a bit due to the more subdued gothic tone they were going for. Also for most of the game again all you need is to whip it good and you will succeed making your items almost useless. In Bloodlines, like any Classicvania you will be using all those weapons constantly, plus the Item Crash means you will always have creative ways to deal damage. I feel that anyone who thinks SCIV is the best Classicvania to play it again after beating other games in the franchise. Cause it will feel way too easy.

You did a very good job of reviewing the two. Pretty rare that I agree so closely with a review. I do feel that Bloodlines' kooky bosses are a bit too wacky compared to the rest of the series design. The sprocket boss comes to mind. There's a lot of little missteps in Bloodlines, like the janky whip sound effects, Erik's hair color changing, and foot positioning that's not quite right sometimes, but overall I seem to have more fun playing it than I do 4. Granted, I grew up playing 4, and tried Bloodlines for the first time only a month ago. It's difficult for me to admit that because I have such a love for 4, but the pace of Bloodlines is just great.

I actually can totally relate, my friend! That’s really cool! I recently did a 3 parter comparing Mega Man 1, 2, 3 with NES and the lesser known 16bit Sega ports. Love the gaming passion!

Great video man!

Found your channel about a week ago and really enjoying the content! Very nicely done =D Feels similar to EPG's Remake or Rebreak.

Castlevania Portrait of Ruin (DS) is a sequel to Bloodlines, but they replaced Michiru Yamane as composer for Yuzo Koshiro. Its like playing Streets of Ragevania

Excellent episode, as per usual.

Glad I stumbled on your channel. Hope to see some point and click videos.

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

glad you did to! they're bound to happen one way or another, i'd like to dedicate a whole video series to them, specifically their translation to a controller, just a matter of making the time.

Good video man

Hey GvG, you told me to check out your channel, so here I am. I'm a huge Castlevania fan actually, I beat the original on NES about 400 times in my attempts to get the world record a few years back. Ended up about 45 seconds short of my goal. Anyway, good video -- you gettin back to doin videos on a regular basis?

I have yet to beat bloodlines but will revisit it again after this.

I really enjoy your video! Subscibed

First watch, instant subscribe. I agree completely on both games, and you gave such great content. Keep it up.

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, welcome aboard!

Cool video man, especially dig the Konami logo including Ultra at the beginning! I've always loved Konami, but their Ultra games definitely were not for the casual gamer. Mission: Impossible, TMNT, etc. Those games were for serious gamers. Love Bloodlines, but I've always been partial to Genesis games vs. SNES. Also, Eric's power jumps damage enemies which can be very useful! As well as his overhead swinging spear attack, those 2 aspects alone set him apart as the best character to play as. Now, Contra Hardcore vs. Contra III? First of your videos I've seen so don't know if you've done that yet.

Great job! That was very fun to watch! I disagree with the music thing though.

Both are good. There are good things in both games that they might not have. Controls, sprites, etc. Great review!

You've earnt a new subscriber.:D

@a.k.8195

3 жыл бұрын

*earned

VIDEO IDEA (Although, I'm not sure if there are enough changes to fill video content). You should do an episode on the comparison of Star Fox 2's leaked rom, and the complete version on the SNES Classic. :)

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

oh i didn't realize the SNES Classic version was any different the the ROM out there. i'm still torn on the mini's just because i've got most every game on them already, Star Fox 2 the one exception. Right now i just can't justify the expense on it for the one game, you know? did you get one? how is SF2?

@SuperCrippledGamer

6 жыл бұрын

It's very minor stuff. Some characters have different names, and the speech boxes have a different font. Again, not sure if it's enough to cover in a video.

Great vid! I would love a remake of Bloodlines. Do a comparison of Symphony of the night with the DS games!

Great video. But there is no competition, bloodlines was simply the better game. The inclusion of 2 different characters with unique styles practically made it 2 games in one. The music was better, the sprites were cleaner and less pixelated and the bosses were were more intense. Don’t get me wrong SCiv is a classic, but with bloodlines, the symphony of the night DNA was starting to show and a mere two years later the best castlevania of them all was birthed.

I'd say both games are well worth owning. Bloodlines is closer to CV 1 and 3 while 4 is a deviation. But that may be a plus or minus depending on preference.

Both are great games but I prefer bloodlines. I loved castlevania 4 back in the day and somehow never knew there was a sega castlevania game until the late 90’s so it’s not nostalgia talking. I’ve played through both recently and just enjoyed bloodlines more. The one thing that’s a fact is that castlevania 4 gets far more credit than bloodlines by most.

Woohoo! Always awesome to get a new episode. I have never played Bloodlines but you have peaked my interest, sir. Great vid!

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

thanks! definitely worth checking out, it's a bit of a trip!

@fatherfintanstack8810

6 жыл бұрын

It's piqued. Not peaked.

@Spacemutiny

6 жыл бұрын

Super Duperest you want a metal?

@fatherfintanstack8810

6 жыл бұрын

Anthony Micari FFS, man... It's "medal"... As in "medallion". And yes, by now I think I deserve one.

@Spacemutiny

6 жыл бұрын

Super Duperest low and behold, you learn something new every day!

huzzah you're back again!

Yea blood lines is the winner, but castlevania 4 is great, both are a must have. A lot of work was put behind these masterpiece.

You mention that there was 6 different pairs of konami games that have different games for the snes and sega. I know that there was super castlevania 4 with its genesis counterpart being Bloodlines(obviously, thats what the whole video was about lol) and i know that there was contra 3 on snes with its genesis counterpart being contra:hard corps. So with that being said, what are the other 4 pairs you were referring too? Id be really interested to know, i cant think of what theyd be.

@GamevsGame

3 жыл бұрын

Did i say only 6? I think there's more... The list I've got that has, sadly, sat untouched is: Castlevania 4 & Bloodlines Contra 3 & Hard Corps Tiny Toons Buster Busts Loose & Buster's Hidden Treasure Sparkster Animaniacs TMNT Turtles in Time & Hyperstone Heist Those were probably the 6 I had in mind when I mentioned it in the vid, but the others would be TMNT Tournament Fighters Sunset Riders Tiny Toons Sports (Wacky Sports Challenge & ACME All-Stars) And of course, Zombies Ate My Neighbors which I had covered in another video. Hope that helps!

Castlevania 4 music it's self draws me in. But I love bloodline just a little but more. I love playing Eric with his spear.

Love and played both Games! I like Bloodlines cause it´s so much more like the old Games. IV is just so good to controll. As a Fan, you have to play and love them both ;)

There must be a real glut of retro gaming channels, so many, such as this guy, deserve more views. Also, this dude looks like he could be fellow retro yt gamer Cornshaq's brother

@fatherfintanstack8810

6 жыл бұрын

deathcrustpunk lmao c'mon man, cornshaq is basement dweller-ish. In addition, he loves saying ridiculous and highly redundant things like "multiple various different levels"... Seriously... Give him a listen... Every episode it's multiple various this and various different that...

Bloodlines is shorter and also easier imo, but it has more innovatively fun levels, better ost and I really like the old style whip. It makes the Items more worth having. Also the electric whip makes worth the effort of trying to play with perfection. (I haven't finished the game with lecarde yet).

Great work, as always, my dude. And thanks for the shout-out at the end!

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Joe, no problem! Happy belated Halloween!

@SameNameDifferentGame

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you, sir. I hope you enjoyed my look at Friday the 13th stuff!

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

indeed i did! i'm just a bad person and haven't shared or commented on friends videos recently

@SameNameDifferentGame

6 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, I'm offended you didn't comment! (Not really.)

@charlesanthonymiddlebrooks3487

6 жыл бұрын

#GamevsGame & #OntheStick "Hey #EricGrider & #JoeDrilling, anychance that you guys can make an episode of #CastleVania: #DraculaX (#SNES) & #RondoOfBlood (#PCEngine) as well too please, you guys owe all of us to talk about it as well too please." 😐🏋💪✌👍👌🙏💖🎮🕹📱💻🎥🎞📽🎬📺📈🔮

Nice and Fair comparison.. keep going

Your channel is under rated I don't know why. But all my friends in Mexico I show your videos and they love it. We are going to transfer Mexican power to your channel because we love it.

Bloodlines is so much more inventive than SCIV for the overall design, there just ain't any contest. ... Tho it doesn't really matter, as both games can be equally enjoyable in the right circumstances.

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

totally agree, i really enjoyed Bloodline's tone, it's quite grim but then you've got robots on wheels driving across the screen and more and more surreal things going on in each level.

Simon’s theme makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. Best song of any castlevania game

@a.k.8195

3 жыл бұрын

Bloody Tears: Do you think I'm a joke?

Agree. Enjoyed this.

For a launch title it's incredible! Both great games

I'm not nearly as big a fan of Bloodlines, but I still really like it. I haven't beaten it yet, mainly due to the limited amount of continues. I'll get there one day. Super Castlevania IV I'm just hugely biased towards because of how much I played it growing up.

@xanafalgue5184

6 жыл бұрын

After each level you get a Password (Bird,Axe,Juwel,etc) - so you can jump right into the level if you want. And I recommend also the Pal version (New Generation), yes 50Herz but plays still great in proper speed ... and the difficulty is more forgiving, you can select an easy mode, so its mor accessible than Bloodlines. Cheers

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

see this is one case i'm really glad i had no experience playing SC4 growing up. I'd rented the NES games quite often, but didn't play 4 until MUCH later in life, sometime in college on an emulator. I always feel like i have to lean the other way when i'm talking about a nostalgic game for me, regardless if it deserves it or not.

Hyped on the Rondo of Blood/Dracula X next Halloween. Hopefully not your next review in general. Welcome back.

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

coming Halloween 2024

Pretty cool comparison, but I think there's a better one to be made. If you're willing to revisit Super Castlevania IV in the future, I think a much more fair and interesting comparison would be to the other Castlevania 1 remake, Castlevania: Chronicles, which originally came out in 1993, but was then ported to the PS1.

Great job man! Do EWJ 2 will ya?? Also your video capture looks like RF. Get yourself some HD Retrovision cables and component capture device!

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

EWJ2 is definitely on my list. haha it's composite so not much better and then enlarged by like 225% sometimes, it looks like garbage for the most part, i know. i've got the HDR cables, actually, was an early contributor on their kickstarter as well, but sadly my elgato capture device doesn't do component at 240p. i don't expect i'll ever own a framemeister and don't particularly want to mod my consoles either to output better signals, so i've currently resigned myself to "record at the best common output between all the consoles featured in the episode".

@thebeardofpepew4538

6 жыл бұрын

haha I hear ya man no worries. I think you do a great job and thanks for putting in the effort and time for this show. Also, do you have a Patreon? I’m sure other folks that enjoy your channel much like myself would contribute to your framemiester/new Elgato cause for the sake of a higher quality video output. Keep up the great work man! Keeping an eye out for EWJ 2!

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that, i've thought about a Patreon, but haven't set one up yet. i'd set it per episode or whatever since my schedule is so inconsistent if i did. kind of you to consider giving if i did have one. i feel so awkward about the whole thing... but i kind of feel awkward about everything, so i might do it one day :)

I can handle the shitty whip sound in Bloodlines as long as I'm not playing as a guy in fuckin daisy dukes

First of all, very nice work on the video. It was quite enjoyable. Hearing the word outlier in the video, I'd use it to describe me. Why? Because, despite the declaration near the end, I could and did go wrong with CV4. For some reason, very little in that game appeals to me. But I'm not here to badmouth the game. It just didn't work for me, despite its good reputation. Interestingly, nostalgia isn't a factor here as I didn't play either game back in the day. I actually tried them for the first time, along with Rondo, at roughly the same time. I suspect that Konami wouldn't have gone back to a more traditional style without good reason.

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

thanks rav! haha nothing wrong with being an outlier, been one all my life :) SC4 was really the only one to loosen the controls like it did, Bloodlines went back to the stiff ones and Rondo too just with some more movement options. not sure if it was just the new dev teams working on them or what.

My favorites are IV and Rondo. I'd love to see a IV style remake of Rondo where Richter plays like he does in SOTN. As much as I love the more ploding pace and limited attack angles, playing a whip wielding Belmont sprinting all over the place and attack in every direction is incredibly fun

Castleania 4 is superior in every way. better gameplay, harder, can hit in any direction, better music and graphics. I played both games.

Sparkster, Sunset Riders, Contra, Castlvania, TMNT,... what’s the sixth one? This is going to keep me up at night if I don’t find out, you guys.

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

haha, Tiny Toons and Animaniacs. Sunset Riders i didn't include in my original count since they are based on the same source, so not completeley different games like the others. although i'd still like to do that one as well at some point!

@SinisterSally

6 жыл бұрын

well its as different as TMNT. Mostly the same but mixed around.

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

fair point, I can see that, didn't consider TMNT under that same reasoning when I thought about it. Either way though, still fascinating to me

@Ruudos

6 жыл бұрын

There's TMNT: Tournament Fighters as well.

@jessragan6714

6 жыл бұрын

TWO Tiny Toons games! The platformer and the sports game!

I always wondered where the idea that the statues outside of the castle are Sypha Belnades...it doesn't make sense story wise for Dracula to create a statue that looks like a character that defeated him in the past. Kinda silly. If it IS Sypha, it''s in there as fan service only. I think a lot of the points you make are of course subjective to you regarding the soundtracks. For example, I think the remixed tracks from previous games in the franchise are worse in both Bloodlines and SCIV. SCIV went for a more acid jazz style with more classical baroque era tropes the series is known for. However, Yamane's first musical entry in the series (Bloodlines) is certainly no slouch either. Overall, SCIV has always been the better of the two games to me, personally, but it's also the game I grew up with, whereas Bloodlines I hadn't played until the early 2000s. Bloodlines also released WAY late in the Genesis' life cycle compared to SCIV coming out closer to launch. It's UNBELIEVABLE how detailed the sprites are, how crisp and clean the music sounds, and how tight the gameplay is in SCIV. It's certainly the easiest entry in the series, but it's a blast to play through. It's easily in my top 10 games of all time. The original game has been remade/rereleased several times. From the MSX version Vampire Killer, to the arcade slog that is Haunted Castle, and even the Sharp X68000 reimagining (later released under Castlevania Chronicles for PS1.) All are retelling the same story just different ways. Anyways, sorry for the dissertation, you should've known I would comment a novel for this though :P

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

haha of course! i expect nothing less from Miketendo where Castlevania is concerned! i'm not sure about the Sypha thing either because, like you said, it doesn't make sense in terms of Dracula putting statues of her around. i remember thinking about it the first time playing it and seeing other notes about it online, chalked it up to just a little easter egg. like yeah statues would fit here, make them look like Sypha for the hell of it.

@Dongled

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't recall reading anything official about that easter egg but who knows? It's certainly possible. Well anyways, great video, and as always if you need a Castlevania expert to join you in your look at Rondo of Blood/Dracula X, I'm always available :D

Dude. Gret. You did it!

I noticed you never did the Game vs Game for Rondo and X.

Castlevania IV was may favorite old school linear Castlevania game, but Bloodlines was a damn good game as well.

with super castlevania as a game that is absolutely awesome i gotta say that the music is good but not as good as some of the other games like bloodlines or the oustanding soundtrack of chronicles... wich seems unknown to most of you review guys.

The only thing that brings down Bloodlines for me is that in order to get the full and complete ending you have to paly on expert mode as both characters if it wasn't for that I would've truly gave it to Bloodlines, but hey to each our own

Super CV had amazing music and graphics and a ton of content for a game released so early in the system’s life. It holds a bigger place in my heart because of all of that. I wish Bloodlines was a little longer.

Castlevania IV was always boring to me, way to easy. Bloodlines was my personal favorite with the extra character and challenge. Rondo was great, and I'm glad they re-released it on PS4.

My only issue with the channel is the time between releases.

Are those musical breaks a variation of the Silent Hill 2 dog ending song?

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

no actually, its a remix from OCR based on the password song in The Goonies II on NES (ocremix.org/remix/OCR02174)

Here's something not a lot of people pay attention to when they stand on the side of Bloodlines and claim its superiority over IV: Bloodlines came out two and half years after IV and on a platform that had been released a year or two earlier too, so Konami not only had much more time to get used to the platform they were making the game for, they also had all the benefit of hindsight and lessons learned from IV when creating Bloodlines. Just imagine what could have been if IV had come out two and half years later than Bloodlines and Konami had even more time to learn how to best take advantage of the SNES unique capabilities, as well as simple stuff like even using fastROM rather than slowROM. . . . Yet, having said that, I still prefer IV anyway, as I think it has nicer visuals, better audio, and is just more satisfying to control and play.

Love both.And cv3

flawless victory for Bloodlines

Super Castlevania IV is honestly one of my favorite games of all time. It's just got such a cinematic quality to it with the super-well detailed Gothic artstyle, and orchestral music score. It's an eerie atmosphere I have yet to see come from any other game, Castlevania or otherwise. No gore was needed, neither was any dialogue, it was just an umami of sound architecture and graphic design. Bloodlines definitely has its own identity in the Castlevania series as well. While Super Castlevania IV captured the ideal atmosphere of a Gothic-style Castlevania game, Bloodlines has a feel far different than any other Castlevania game. Gone are the dark, eerie colors, and in are bright levels that range from being familiar enough to complete acid trips (Wouldn't surprise me if John Morris and Eric Lecarde were taking some kind of drugs, since they'd need to be on something to make through all of Europe on foot, or even in horse and carriage). This was definitely in the favor of the hardware though, since the Genesis struggled with realistic color palettes (just look at Eternal Champions). Same goes for the music, it's less atmospheric, and more in your face (again, much to the strength of the hardware). The whole game is like New Coke: new and refreshing, but not likely to set the new standard. Just a damn shame mid-air control wasn't implemented like in Super Castlevania IV, as Bloodlines came out much later and should have had that down pat. Also, am I the only one that thinks Elizabeth Bartley is hot? Evil and wants to bring the destruction of the world, but aesthetically pleasing.

@yohkom.7988

6 жыл бұрын

+Zane Gandini "since the Genesis struggled with realistic color palettes (just look at Eternal Champions)" Disagree. For start Eternal Champions wasn't even aimed at looking realistic, everything has a comics feel to it, characters as well as overall art direction. And then about realistic graphics, look at Shadow of the Beast (a game with unreal sprites but realistic sceneries), the Mega Drive version has better graphics than the PC Engine CD version or than the unreleased SNES version. And there are plenty of others good-looking Mega Drive games with realistic graphics such as Ecco the Dolphin, Jurassic Park, Sub-Terrania, X-Perts, VR Troopers... And about sound, sure the Mega Drive is less at ease with atmospheric music but it still can do it perfectly. Heck, did you even listen to Savaged Regime's covers of Castlevania IV music? :D Now that's the best example given your post :p and then about official Mega Drive games, Gauntlet or Devilish have fantastic music with several atmospheric tunes :) and of course I don't even talk about Mega-CD games...

@zanegandini5350

6 жыл бұрын

Yohko M. Yeah, the Genesis _could_ do realistic colors and atmospheric music, but unless you had some really experienced programmers at the helm, it was much harder to do.

@yohkom.7988

6 жыл бұрын

But that's the thing, this might be the few areas where the Mega Drive has hard times but it can still overcomes these. Same can't be said about the SNES which is stuck with a weak CPU, limited resolution and such, now you can't fix these!

@yohkom.7988

6 жыл бұрын

Also, in case you didn't see about it, you should check a topic at Sega-16: "Mockup screens of games from other systems", you might be surprised about some results there, Yoshi's Island or Rendering Ranger for examples :) (even more if you imagine these results but with the Mega Drive higher resolution, 320x224 pixels, which ultimately would make these mockups looking better than the originals).

Well done, sir. I went back and played Castlevania: Bloodlines, and while I appreciate that it feels more like the old NES games than Super Castlevania IV, the sound effects are by and large pretty terrible. It's not just the whip, either! Crows make an awful "gwank gwank" noise as they fly away and the door in the first stage sounds like it's made of cardboard rather than heavy wood. Atmosphere is important in a Castlevania game, and the phony 8-bit sound effects in Bloodlines greatly detract from that. It almost makes me wonder how the game would have been on the Sega CD instead... redbook audio and extra sound channels would have helped out a lot.

My only complaint about Bloodlines is that I don't have any fun playing as the whip guy.

Nice to see a vid from you again! I happen to prefer Bloodlines too! Great analysis!

@GamevsGame

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sam, glad you enjoyed!

@Stealthborn

6 жыл бұрын

The points you give in the video are solid and I think they're both good games to add to one's collection. However I'm still inclined to go with Super Castlevania IV. Part of it has to do with nostalgia but I also like how it plays more. I do like the two character selection in Bloodlines but it is a little odd there are no Belmonts in the story and they start incorporating material from Bram Stoker's Dracula. Overall I look at it like this. Super Castlevania IV pays tribute to the older Castlevania games but throws in a couple of new things. Bloodlines takes some of that but experiments more. That's what I get from it.

Castlevania 4 is the apex of refinement in all aspects of the game. Though Castlevania 4 is my favorite castlevania game, I still enjoy playing the rest of the series.

The soundtrack makes it obvious now....the Symphony of the night woman did it!!

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