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Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones react to the Phoenix Suns firing Frank Vogel after one season as head coach.
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@kevinnapier8996
22 күн бұрын
You are all spot-on. Culture-building takes at least 2-3 years. Cancel-culture is too big and is hurting longevity at the cost of the future and the brands.
The guy who built that joke of a team is the one who should be fired
@Travis89-ob5tt
22 күн бұрын
I love seeing these super teams fail.
@nigelwalker6684
22 күн бұрын
Fax 📠
@jjones2509
22 күн бұрын
It's a good team
@mikewilliams9069
22 күн бұрын
Durqueen needs more help
@abzda1700
22 күн бұрын
It’s lebron fault
KD has had 6 coaches in 6 years so is he a coach killer or is that just for LeBron
@johananmensah2950
22 күн бұрын
It’s just for Lebron 😂.
@wr066
22 күн бұрын
Maybe the said coaches should spend more time actually trying to build up an actual good team as opposed to trying to build up a said superstar player????
@Hsauce429
22 күн бұрын
👍 gud question !! I will say Coach killer also !! How is it tha coaches fault that these All Star players dnt show up 2 play !!
@user-vz1tv2sm2f
22 күн бұрын
It’s the coaches fault. His offensive schemes was atrocious
@DatBoyQ305
22 күн бұрын
@@wr066 It's the GM that builds the teams, not the coaches.
Everyone wants these perfect coaches and the franchise is no where near perfect smh
@1990758
22 күн бұрын
Exactly but they go by what the coach has done in the past.
@baldeagle4710
22 күн бұрын
KD needs a scapegoat
@LKS-M9323
22 күн бұрын
The issues is impatience. Everyone wants success year 1 which isn't realistic. 2-4 years is good depending on players age
@varshaytrice3941
22 күн бұрын
@@LKS-M9323.....F.A.C.T.S. Not just that. This is taking the fun out of watching sports nowadays..... there are plenty of great players from back in the day that didn't get a chip. At the end of the day, it's ONLY one team that can win a Championship. The players can have fun anymore. It's a sport mire entertainment bottom Line ‼️
@steveaustin6786
21 күн бұрын
@LKS-M9323 that's exactly what I say too everybody wants perfection when in reality it doesn't work that way which includes the arizona cardinals
Bro we gotta stop calling Bradley Beal a "Superstar" and stop calling this a "Big 3". It's impossible for Beal to be apart of any big 3. He hasn't accomplished anything besides scoring 30ppg on a terrible Wizards team that didn't even make playoffs.
@gilbertcervantes8655
22 күн бұрын
Thank you from all suns fans in AZ. His contract is a mess so I think we’re stuck with him. Could get the most for Devin but I hope he’s happy here
@HardCold-Alquan
22 күн бұрын
I guess so, but Booker is only a star.
@dreamcage1801
22 күн бұрын
Make Beal retire and trade kd
@twizzy585ful
22 күн бұрын
That would be like saying the heat weren't a big 3 because of Bosh...
@EaglesGonnaFly
22 күн бұрын
@@dreamcage1801worst statement I have seen all year for sports 😂😂😂😂
Charles Barkley was 100% correct about his rant about firing coaches too soon and not holding players accountable.
@dreamcage1801
22 күн бұрын
Coddled players and that’s the Ben Simmons effect
Joy wearing some Spiderman outfit lol
@cedrickcarson
22 күн бұрын
Looking good af at that
@randomupdates4013
22 күн бұрын
@@cedrickcarsonsimp
@glennjthompson332
22 күн бұрын
😳🔥Snakeskin dress outfit!😅❤🔥
@marcellismccord4599
22 күн бұрын
She look good asf
@glennjthompson332
22 күн бұрын
@@marcellismccord4599 She sure is!😄 She wears anything, I can't wait for Friday's special!😅🔥
You've got 3 Robin's on a team but no Batman to lead them ... 🤷🏾♂️
@chadingram6390
22 күн бұрын
KD was supposed to be Batman, even Booker and CP3 went to the finals
Where’s that same energy they had for Bron
@yahcrack
22 күн бұрын
James a LBJ fan so they won’t do that topic
@MrMex44
22 күн бұрын
Have you not been online??? Everyone has been ripping into lebron. Such a silly comment.
@jamilaraynor1895
22 күн бұрын
Right
@IllMatic97
22 күн бұрын
Lebron is not the reason Ham sandwich got fired
@Omingogeta
22 күн бұрын
@@IllMatic97actually he is
Stop letting former football players talk basketball. Shady said Bradley Beal was a good defensive player. He's had a negative DBPM for 11 of his 12 seasons. His DPBM is that of the 13-15th player on the bench of any NBA team.
@clayshawncogmon6817
22 күн бұрын
It’s not like he said he was elite Bradley Beal was an okay defender but this year he just was terrible all around
@brianjohnson3469
21 күн бұрын
Bradley Beal is an underrated defender... no stats .... just eye test ..
No Denying Joys beauty though.
@NguyenHHN
20 күн бұрын
She’s a 6.5
I guess media will blame Lebron James
@randomupdates4013
22 күн бұрын
That’s where the shift happened historically. Phil Jackson could still coach his teams, with super stars that didn’t get him fired. Lebron even got a championship winning coach fired over differences, smh lol
@ferrariphilx
22 күн бұрын
lol they never blame Lebron.
@jrcrit8843
22 күн бұрын
Dude you Lebron fans are pathetic. The media only kisses his behind while blaming everyone else
@supermanblackedition
22 күн бұрын
@@jrcrit8843 they were debating his retirement earlier this week. Your narrative can be proven false by a light scroll on the video feed. How pathetic is it to lie to justify your irrational hatred for Lebron?
@PrinceCortezJones
22 күн бұрын
@@jrcrit8843 Ignorant statement
Crazy how they not yelling out accountability for kd and book like they did to Bron lol. I don't hear no one saying, oh kd and book should speak out and defend the coach.
I like Frank Vogel but at this point you're stuck with the rosters so the only move you can make is the coach u can't run it back exactly after getting swept
All i want to hear in the Comments is BLAME KD. Keep the same Energy
@rcruz-zu4sm
22 күн бұрын
Blame the guy who was told to stand in the corner like rui hachimura
So I guess lebron is responsible for vogel getting fired on phoenix too?🤔 YALL said he was a great coach and lebron got him fired. What happened to his great coaching ability in phoenix? I'm trying to keep the same energy
@BallCDO
22 күн бұрын
LeBron got Ham fired!!! F*ck him
@paulaarchuleta8684
22 күн бұрын
Westbrook is the one who got Frank fired.
@smoothsavage2870
22 күн бұрын
@@paulaarchuleta8684 It was Lebron too. If that was on Westbrook, Ty Lue would be getting fired right now.
@sreerc
22 күн бұрын
LeBron is the GM of NBA - he just gets everyone fired - ask Jones... /s
@sholovesholove4620
22 күн бұрын
@@sreerc No you mean he gets everyone jobs. Especially ones that probably wouldn't have a shot anywhere else
Like Charles said “They always wanna blame these head coaches, but don’t want to hold these players accountable”
@IllMatic97
22 күн бұрын
The players are always held accountable but you can't fire the players
@dreamcage1801
22 күн бұрын
Players nowadays are too pampered
Way that same energy at that was for LeBron??? 😂😂😂😂
@NinersGiantsNation
22 күн бұрын
Lakers coach is black that’s why they overreacted
@wr066
22 күн бұрын
Maybe the said coaches should spend more time actually trying to build up an actual good team as opposed to trying to build up a said superstar player????
As a Suns fan, Frank there were some red flags like worst 4th quarters, underwhelming offense with 3 elite scorers and Allen shooting lights out, and also the intensity the Suns played with. He just wasn't the right fit. Beal being extremely underwhelming/injured was also a big issue.
@Mabin3d
22 күн бұрын
How is that coaches fault? When are/do the players get held accountable?
@universe-ie2mk
22 күн бұрын
He had just got there. Beal had just got there and KD only played half a year with book once the season started. It's too soon to tell if a coach the right fit. They traded all their core players away.
@1990758
22 күн бұрын
There is no red flags. they were not going to win a championship this year.
@xavierb9061
22 күн бұрын
@@Mabin3d worst 4th quarter 100% coach fault. Wizards hornets beating you if cant make adjustment..fired
@Seddysaid
22 күн бұрын
@@Mabin3d how is the worst 4th quarter in NBA history not the coaches fault? Lol how is the offense statistically top 5 with that amount of talent? How do they get swept in the first round? Is that not the coaches fault?
Not Vogel’s fault. They’re gonna go out there and get a players’ coach and say “this team really just needs someone to let them run wild and do as they please”. Then they’ll go nowhere and fire him in 2-3 seasons and hire a disciplinarian to clamp down on them. Then the cycle will repeat
Players might as well be their own coach
@1990758
22 күн бұрын
Then they would only play fifty games And practice once a week.
@HardCold-Alquan
22 күн бұрын
That is what GS was under Kerr - until Kerr was forced to coach starting with that Toronto series, then supporters finally realized that he got a free ride until the team could not compete.
Dave is the 🐐 of show. Reporter that knows stats, cap, draft, trades, positional schemes from years following camps. Dude is under valued and deserves own seat permanently. 🎉🎉🎉
@bigdawg1372
22 күн бұрын
He had his own seat then left for whatever reason
@futureisaiah96
22 күн бұрын
@@bigdawg1372no they rotate out different personalities. They are guest appearances
@randomupdates4013
22 күн бұрын
@@bigdawg1372 exactly, he’s only on when invited as guest now but earned his spot. Him vs Shady are the best segments possible lol
@randomupdates4013
22 күн бұрын
@@futureisaiah96yeah for most part they don’t rotate Joy, Shady, or Acho but Dave went MONTHS not on the show. Now gets some days here and there.
@bernadettehuggins1949
22 күн бұрын
93
Now keep that same Lebron energy on this topic with coaches being let go
@gblair7622
22 күн бұрын
Would you feel better about your life?
@vuhquach
22 күн бұрын
@@gblair7622 this is an amazing reply. Thank you for this 🤝
Another scapegoat for playoff choke artists. When do the players go to the front office and say “it’s not on coach, it’s on us”?
@abzda1700
22 күн бұрын
When players get traded do coaches defend them when players are looking for contract do coaches speak up
@bernyourhart
22 күн бұрын
@@abzda1700Guarantee coaches will speak on behalf of a player they don’t want traded. Mark Jackson did it for Curry in GSW when they tried to trade him.
They should not have fired Monty Williams.
@dreamcage1801
22 күн бұрын
Blame Ayton for that one too
They need to fire whoever put this team together
Hearing Shady talk Football is Bad Hearing Shady talk basketball is horrible
@jimmycharlotin7050
22 күн бұрын
He should not be talking at all
@williambreeze2659
22 күн бұрын
His takes are fine.
@jimmycharlotin7050
22 күн бұрын
@@williambreeze2659 no it's not
As a Suns fan, this has to be the most disappointing season ever. The Suns have lost championships but this team to get swept? Its unbelievable. I also agree this is on the players but sometimes u have to shake things up. I hate this for Frank but I can’t feel sorry for a guy who just got 31 million for five years.
As a suns fan I can tell y’all didn’t watch the games for real. Vogel is not the coach for us. His lack of making adjustments alone is enough to move on from him. Monty had to go also. losing in the finals one year then getting blown out by the mavs the following year. We need a coach that can coach offensive power.
I know everyone see's 👀 how shady be looking so uninterested when he's not talking or involved in a take.
Wow Devin Booker has had 7 coaches in 10 years? So when Lebron has 9 coaches in 22 season y'all just criticize him. Giannis has had 3 coaches in 6 months, but y'all want to criticize Lebron for having 9 coaches in 22 seasons. Booker is on pace to pass him in year 13.
@BallCDO
22 күн бұрын
Suns were trash before Monty, just stop!!!!!
Now where is the energy for The Suns big three for getting their coach fired!?
@JourdanChaney
22 күн бұрын
I get your point about there play getting the coach fired but I generally think the owner fired him anyway even if the players wanted the coach kept
N Joy still looking like Gods gift so i ❤ it!!
@glennjthompson332
22 күн бұрын
She rocked it fine!😆😅😍😄👍
I didn't know JJ lives here in Phoenix! I'm gonna have to get a James Jones Raiders jersey just to get it autographed by him. Hopefully I can run into him!
What about the report that coach Vogel was laughed at during a shootaround the day after April 9th match against LA?
JOY GOT THEM NICE JUGGS
@glennjthompson332
22 күн бұрын
😄♥She crossed her arms..😆and let it hang on the table!?😳😅😆🤣😂👍❤🔥
@randomupdates4013
22 күн бұрын
Which is fueling the simps to disregard bad takes, and contradicting generalizations lol
@glennjthompson332
22 күн бұрын
@@randomupdates4013 😂😅🔥😁🍰
@mikewilliams9069
22 күн бұрын
@@randomupdates4013soft
@HardCold-Alquan
22 күн бұрын
She always had them - but why isn't she married? Her clock is ticking and ticking fast! Jugs can still be there, but the rest will change...
Well, when you're not allowed to run and discipline your players and practice and training and rely on their Superstar talent alone, you're going to come up against a team who is disciplining who's going to make you look silly. All three of the big three look very average compared to Minnesota like they had never played organized basketball before
@MaximusSunman
22 күн бұрын
Geez I wonder why ? Frank Vogel had no real offensive scheme & was terrible when it comes to making the right adjustments dude had a pg & stretch big that could’ve matched up well against the Timberwolves & for some reason the idiot refused to play them not to mention when kd comes out publicly says he didn’t like the system they ran you know it’s something the coach isn’t doing right…
@OfficialJairusThurston
22 күн бұрын
@@MaximusSunmanhow can he have an offense when his players never play together. They barely played any games together. Someone is always hurt
Welcome Back to your show ACHO💪🏾😎👍🏾...whew
Everyone is looking for a quick fix....Be patient, things will eventually come to together over time....
It was the right decision. I could tell from their offensive sets that he wasn’t the coach for them. They might need to bring dantoni back 😊😊
Anyone that said this team should compete for a title don't know anything about basketball. This was a horribly constructed team! The GM should he fired
These football players are hilarious 😂 the coach doesn’t have to put superstars in position to win ?? wtf is going on
@bernyourhart
22 күн бұрын
They’re right, you expect star players to show up in the playoffs. Phil Jackson didn’t need to show Kobe or MJ to how to be great,
@PatriccSellapound372
22 күн бұрын
@@bernyourhart bro that’s a bold face lie. Those players you named literally benefited off of an offense that Phil CREATED 😂😂😂😂 wtf are you talking about
@dreamcage1801
22 күн бұрын
@@bernyourhartboth cats worked on their game
Bro Frank only adjustment was to play Bol for 10 minutes
@greyyb8860
22 күн бұрын
He’s very thin, he’s not your typical big men to box out Gobert or KAT
@wr066
22 күн бұрын
About time! Apparently he (even with all of his above average paid coach assistants) didn't learn anything since trying to coach LeBron and the LA Lakers????
@bernyourhart
22 күн бұрын
They traded away their bench for KD and Beal.
@smoothsavage2870
22 күн бұрын
@@bernyourhart So 2 people makes up a whole bench?
I say call up Mike dantoni
@1990758
22 күн бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if they got steve nash.
@smoothsavage2870
22 күн бұрын
Mike would make their offense flow like a charm. But they'd need to get a REALLY good defensive guy on the staff to put beside him.
James Jones has the best and honest takes in this show. İm watching just for him
Acho when on is like Skip light. By that I mean he takes contrary views he may not believe, for purpose of stirring debate. At least he don’t troll players names like Skip. 😆🤣 I’m not an Acho hater but the balance undeniable. Joy is a good moderator but so so panelist, so helps her skill utilization when is moderator. Dave brings a journalist skill, stats and can talk positional scheme and draft/trade analysis. Shady and James different personalities but former players to bring personal experience. 🔥
Shady when have you ever seen Bradley beal play defense 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣
This is crazy
Funny how the media protect Durant but constantly drag LeBron through the mud. They never have the same energy for Kd that they have for Bron.
The Suns are in need of a strong and experienced coach to guide the team, as they currently lack a clear leader.
@dreamcage1801
22 күн бұрын
Franchise point guard More Youngblood Power forward
I’m tired of hearing the term “superstar” to describe guys who are NOT superstars. Especially Bradley Beal lmao
Kd scoring 18 points is doing what he was supposed to do? Stop the cap still making excuses for kd who is Harrison Barnes without the warriors
Honestly, the next coach needs to put in a system that feeds the best scorer. For 2 years I’ve seen maybe the best natural scorer in history score from anywhere on the court and then doesn’t touch the ball in scoring position for 65 or 6 possessions. Establish a pecking order. Even the Great Steph took a step back and let the 7 footer go to work.
@changes6901
22 күн бұрын
5 or 6 I meant. Lol
I want all the smoke that they had for Lebron to be on KD about taking accountability!! I know they wont. You Lebron haters wont either.
@smoothsavage2870
22 күн бұрын
Are people comparing KD to Lebron? No? Then of course we wont.
Breaking news suns are. In talks with JJ Reddick for next coach. Wow 😊
When AD was awful in the 4th and Lakers were under performing, it was Hams fault. But when the suns fail, it’s more on the players? Shady gotta keep the same energy!
Where’s that same energy when YALL claimed LeBron got Ham fired!!!!! KD stay getting a pass from YALL!!!! Joy when are you going to call KD a coach killer!!!!
The nba needs to stop recycling these same 10 head coaches already 🤦♂️ time to move on
Nah keep that same smoke for KD yall have for bron lol
Bradley Beal in no way is one of the most respected players in the league
This the second time Frank didnt get a fair shot. The Suns didnt even give him a real point guard to play
@HardCold-Alquan
22 күн бұрын
They foolishly got rid of Paul when he bring stability. GS foolishly added him - for what? That was a bad idea even before they tried it out. Two different PG's with tew very different styles of play.
Should have kept CP3.And pick up D.Howard . It's all about winning. Makes no difference who you are.
Joy...When are you all going to call KD a coach killer!!!?
How happy is Frank today
Last time I checked coaches don't sign players owners and GM's do ijs
Shady you didn’t have that energy for Ham
We definitely should’ve kept Monty
They didn’t give the man a point guard and fired him
2010 All-Stars: I'm I so out of touch? . . . No - It is the Coaches who are wrong.
chemistry wasn't there.
Yeah its the coaches fault......not KD never being a clutch performer or leader..... the most overrated skilled player of all time.
@MikandaMaboto
22 күн бұрын
And them boys Beal and Booker
@IllMatic97
22 күн бұрын
KD has never been a leader
DIVA era🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Players want recognition but don’t want the blame🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@dreamcage1801
22 күн бұрын
No real men
How long did it take the big three in Miami to win
Good teams take time. All of the teams that won the chip-warriors, Denver, and Lakers all took multiple years to win. Even the Twolves were trash last year and now look at them.
@1990758
22 күн бұрын
This generation of owners don't have time. They don't want to rebuild.
Shoulda played IT at least some playoff minutes. He's a point guard
Agree with all but you can’t blame them for playing just 27 games together. If Beal was injured, well he was injured.
They fired the coach cause they couldn’t fire Beal
Hard for those 3 to perform when they miss so many games playing with each other. Grayson Allen started more games than all each of them.
Joy Taylor with that spiderman outfit 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
I wonder what Stephen A says about this with KD
Frank has been fired from 4 different teams . If I got fired by 4 different bosses at my job , they’d say obviously I don’t know how to do my job . Only in the nba do we say a guy who got fired 4 times it’s never his fault …
Different narrative for when different teams fire coaches
It’s funny how they call Lebron a coach killer but KD has had 4 coaches in 2 years
Joy making great points about having a well balanced team. Having top heavy teams aren’t super teams. Having the best role players with a scorer or two is best. That’s why the bulls were the best team. Best rebounders, best shooters, best defenders and best coach.
I see a lot of people blaming LeBron were saying to blame LeBron when he wasn’t the blame for this. Anthony Davis played great. And bron the blame on this coach is he didn’t know how to put the right personnel in and he did not know how to call the time out.
This is pathetic. Owners and fans need to hold PLAYERS accountable
@dreamcage1801
22 күн бұрын
💯
Joy you are!
the new NBA trend is when they are winning credit to players , but iif they are losing then fire the coach
If you are watching the western playoff, no body is beating the nuggets or OKC or the wolfs or Dallas except each other in a series
When you pay players millions, there's no motivation.
Really what does these teams expect are going to happen. We see the same coaches every year just with different teams doing the same thing.
That stupid owner never should have fired Monty Williams.
The classic case of owners thinking they can just throw money at a team and win. The owner was the one who put this team together. Not the GM. The stars need to be held accountable.
But the Lakers dont want a quick turnaround smh
So where is the outrage over this???? Everybody was dragging the Lakers when they fired Darvin ham is it different because he’s a black coach??? ……. Frank Vogel has a championship under his belt. Darvin ham has none and everybody in sports media was appalled and crying over the fact that he was let go.????
First of all shout out as usual. You guys are on point everybody basically on the same page here. Great protection! Great content all of the time. Keep it up young people. Yeah they get rid of the coach. Coach can't play like a Superstar all those superstars you had. You do that. You take a gamble to roll the dice and you crapped out. Take care of y'all. Keep up the good work. Peace, I'm out of here hello Joy!😅
Phoenix what are you doing???!!!!
No talks of “legacy” wonder why
Shady is completely right. The job of an NBA coach is to hold the star players accountable, manage the flow and rotation of the game and make the non stars better.
@dreamcage1801
22 күн бұрын
Coaches are scared to do so because players are too belly rubbed and they make so much money
Anybody who had high expectations for the Suns even in the beginng of the season would've had to been sniffing that powder 😂 like c'mon look at the construction of this team and Beal's health 💀 I was not optimistic about them from the beginning