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@princegaraad7308

5 жыл бұрын

Is this the same guy who wrote the book art of war?

@krishnakatragadda7234

5 жыл бұрын

Does Zhang yan( one of the playable warlords in the game) have any achievements worth talking about in real life or was he just a nice fit for a playable character?

@greenfier

5 жыл бұрын

@@princegaraad7308 Sun Jian ( Sun Ce's father) was an alleged descendant of Sun Wu, the author of The Art of War

@Maus_Indahaus

5 жыл бұрын

@@princegaraad7308 No, it was Sun Tzu who lived some 5 centuries before Sun Ce

@jamesburke3413

5 жыл бұрын

@@princegaraad7308 no, but supposedly Sun Ce is a descendant of Sun Tzu's.

Yuan Shu declares himself Emperor *Everyone disliked that*

@S1lvermoon

5 жыл бұрын

All hail yuanshu the rat emperor

@hyltoniali257

5 жыл бұрын

All bcs SunCe trades what his father died for, the Imperial Seal for manpower that he needs to conquer JiangDong 81 cities. An emperor without the Imperial Seal won't be a legit one

@dawahoftauwheed2490

5 жыл бұрын

No

@charliezhang6820

5 жыл бұрын

At that time, the warlords had 3 options: 1. Protect and control the Xian Emperor of Han, 2. Choose another one from the Royal family and Crowned him, 3. Claim the throne himeself. Yuan Shu chose the worst option, which looks just stupid in today's view, and Cao Cao chose the best 1st option.

@lv-gamer2568

5 жыл бұрын

I denounce you!

Sun Jian wasn't just in the coalition against Dong Zhuo, he was, historically at least, essentially the only person who did anything. He basically single-handedly beat Dong Zhuo's forces and all the stuff that, in the novel, got attributed to other characters (Slaying of Hua Xiong, the routing of Lu Bu at Hulao Pass) were all done by Sun Jian.

@yourcomrade1922

Ай бұрын

the fact that most people believe that guan yu was the one who killed hua xiong

King and General Channel: Exist Paradox interactive and Creative Assembly: It's profitable advertisement

@_senshi1_

5 жыл бұрын

pirating: Exists me: It's free DLC

@BleedForTheWorld

5 жыл бұрын

>Not meme'ing It's free real estate Disappointment.

@MrAizatazmi

5 жыл бұрын

@@_senshi1_ moding: Exists me: It's free DLC

@winjiro106

5 жыл бұрын

Well it's win-win for us

For those wondering why there are so many warlords with the surname "Liu", it's because Liu is the surname for the Han Dynasty's imperial family, so many of these warlords descend from relatives of the Han's imperial family

@Jake-dh9qk

4 жыл бұрын

Would be cool if the Liu stood together and formed a coalition instead of fighting eachother. For one, Yuan Shao and Yuan Shu would've survived.

@hiyukelavie2396

4 жыл бұрын

And they are technically not warlords They are technically appointed by the Han dynasty to be governors/lords of their provinces The three kingdoms is really just a series of rebellions against the Han dynasty

@honeybadgerdavid663

3 жыл бұрын

*Family name

@papercat2599

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jake-dh9qk they were not exactly fighting each other tho. They still can't stop the warlords

@CatroiOz

Жыл бұрын

@@Jake-dh9qk the problem was that most politically powerful Liu clan members were intentionally stripped of the right to field armies specifically to protect the emperor's position from a coup from inside the family. Only distant relatives were made into governors while princes like Liu Chong had no right to raise troops

In the official historical record (三国志) Sun Ce was described as looking very beautiful and very good at making people laugh (美姿颜 好笑语). He was a charismatic leader and many people followed him and were willing to die for him (乐为致死). Such a shame he died so young. And he and Zhou Yu being best friends married the Qiao sisters together, both of whom were considered most beautiful women in the country. Such a legendary life cut short!

@tmmquovarius891

Жыл бұрын

That's not official historical record. That's a novel written in 15th century

@dudubunny

Жыл бұрын

@@tmmquovarius891 No I'm sorry you are wrong. Check out San Guo Zhi, the historical record written by a historian in that historical period, not the novel, if you can read Chinese or get translated version of the historical record.

@weitbdk1665

11 ай бұрын

@@tmmquovarius891 No, this is real, not a novel by Luo Guanzhong, but recorded by Chen Shou.

If i was able to remember atleast 2 chinese names at a time, i would really love this period of time

@jd4278

5 жыл бұрын

Chinese names are hard. I'm East Asian and I still can't keep up

@wakakabravo7998

5 жыл бұрын

but chinese name is not that long and should be easy to remember compare to other ethnicity.

@jonsmith5626

5 жыл бұрын

Eh, for me it's pretty easy. Most of the ancient Chinese had two character names (one for the surname, one for the first name) and the ones in newer times usually have three characters in their name (99/100 their last name is one character and more often than not their first name has two characters). For me it's a lot easier than other cultures where their names are really really long.

@KC-de1ds

5 жыл бұрын

The Greek and Roman names are to me as Chinese name were to you.

@andreasjames1956

5 жыл бұрын

Zhang Wen Zhang Lu Zhang Fei Zhang Song Zhang He Cao Cao Cao Rui Cao Pi Cao Zhen Cao Ren Cao Bao Xun You Xun Yu Lu Bu Lu Meng Lu Xun

He did all these things in the span of 9 years. I think he forgot to rest!!! So finally RIP at 25 .

@monsterteam4360

5 жыл бұрын

I know right...

@raymondzhang177

4 жыл бұрын

There is a version of his death that state he died of excessive thinking / over imaginative and not enough rest.

@thaywalcus

4 жыл бұрын

@@raymondzhang177 That was Zhou Yu, in jealousy over Zhuge Liang

@YFYe-cr4ui

3 жыл бұрын

@@thaywalcus uhoh, you're now misled by the nivel right... Go search Zhou in wikipedia and you'll find he's not at all a petty man as described in the novel (quite the opposite actually)

@YFYe-cr4ui

3 жыл бұрын

@@thaywalcus Zhou is quite respected and admired by Chinese throughout history,btw

Guards in Elder Scroll: I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow in the knee. Zhang He: Can't agree more. Sun Ce: Tbh, I took an arrow in my face.

@weldonwin

5 жыл бұрын

Black Prince Edward: Happened to me too Harald Hardrada: Hurts like an absolute Melon-Farmer getting an arrow in the eye

@kouron

5 жыл бұрын

@@weldonwin Xiahou Dun: Arrow in the eye? Just pull it out and eat your eye man lmao.

@weldonwin

5 жыл бұрын

@@kouron Harald Hardrada: Didn't have time before those rude French fellows on horses hacked me into bits

@heavenwatcher100

5 жыл бұрын

@@weldonwin I thought Harald was shot in the throat. Never mind, they were all victims of archers.

@heavenwatcher100

5 жыл бұрын

@@kouron Damn, I forgot the Xiahou brothers! Thanks for mentioning them. Xiahou Dun's brother, Xiahou Yuan was shot by Huang Zhong, the most famous archer in Three Kingdoms period.

I feel like Imperator and Three Kingdoms are fighting each other over video sponsorhsips here with their games coming out soon.

@thil2894

5 жыл бұрын

To this statement i say one: LONG LIVE THE IMPERATOR!!!!!!!!!!!

@shacklock01

5 жыл бұрын

Much as I love Paradox, Imperator doesent excite me. I'm quite confident I will play it and find it satisfying but its Three Kingdoms got me waiting. CA looks like they're building on Atilla's return to campaign granuality.

@TheRealBruceLouis

5 жыл бұрын

imperators coming a month earlier, so imperator will get more attention until the release

@TheNinjaWildcat

5 жыл бұрын

Nikkimond can’t agree more lol

@tonybren7079

5 жыл бұрын

Too bad 3 kingdoms will probably suck due to the heroes making it feal unrealistic

The total war mods that we used for this video : *Dahan (Han Empire) mod *Aztec 2015 Graphics *Loot Train map *GEMFX Best wishes, Malay Archer ڤمانه ملايو

@raeaugustus586

5 жыл бұрын

@niessin1483

5 жыл бұрын

Yea... Pemanah Melayu

@ahmadsyafiq7476

5 жыл бұрын

Awesome work as always!!Keep it up👍

@jurtra9090

5 жыл бұрын

From what game?

@sasaikha7385

5 жыл бұрын

malu apa bosskur

The interesting / sad part about the history of Wu is that both Sun Jian and Sun Ce were capable generals but died young. It was Sun Ce's younger brother, Sun Quan, who later became an emperor.

@XuerLi

5 жыл бұрын

Sun Ken lived under the shadow of his father and bro for his entire life, so he always tried to prove something to his generals. he was actually pretty bad at commanding troops and he was also martially weaker than Sun Jian and Sun Ce, he often demonstrated his abilities of mounted archery and beasts- wrestling skills in front of his subordinates who were left over by his brother in desperate of gaining respect, but during battle of xiaoyao ford he was stunned by the valor of Zhang Liao and his bodyguards and became frozen, this proved that he was fundamentally a pu@@y not matter how skilled he was in term of martial arts, the thing is he didn't have the courage to deal with really dangerous situation. His bodyguard friend Chen Wu was killed while protecting him then he had to rely on the newly arrived Ling Tong to pull him out from the killing field.

@stevej1235

5 жыл бұрын

@@XuerLi but at least he keep life of Wu Kingdom for many years, compare to Liu Bei son, he is quite good

@nuraby_9228

4 жыл бұрын

@@stevej1235 Sun Quan basically went off the deep end at the end of his life and the resulting instability doomed Wu within a few generations anyways.

@damiester1

4 жыл бұрын

@@XuerLi You're being a little harsh lol. Zhang Liao's feat would scare the shit out of anyone including Liu Bei.

@QuanNguyen-of1vh

3 жыл бұрын

If Zhou Yu ( Sun Ce right hand man) has lived longer ( he died at 36 ) the Wu kingdom could likely expand more and had more power

5:46 That was not the first time that Sun Ce was screwed over by Yuan Shu. Earlier he had promised Sun Ce the governor of Jiujiang for his service(or rather his father's service, who had fought enough campaign under Yuan Shu he should have gotten a Marquis title, so just a governorship was already an insult at this point), but broke his promise and appointed someone else instead. 6:13 it says Sun Ce crossed and attacked with 5000 man, what it failed to mention was that Yuan Shu had only given him 1000 troops and knowingly sent him on a suicide mission, and through his charisma and some handshaking by his BFF Zhou Yu that he managed to find another 4000 guys. The reason that Sun Ce put up with Yuan Shu's BS for so long was probably because Yuan Shu effectively held his mother, Lady Wu hostage. Lady Wu live in Dan Yang which was initally governed by Sun Ce's uncle Wu Jing, later Zhou Yu's uncle Zhou Shang, however as Sun Ce became more powerful Yuan Shu gave the governorship to his cousin Yuan Yin, effectivly held Lady Wu under his thumb.

when you are the child of destiny, but die from being 'severely injured'

he was only 25?? god damn that blows my mind. Guy was eating land up like Alexander, i'm thinking he would of swept west taking out the weak Liu Biao before butting heads with Cao Cao all before 30 if he had lived.

@christophergalvin1377

4 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderchristopher6237 It would be a bloodbath, but i think they will still be able to destroy Liu Biao if the war didn't got interrupted by other parties (Cao cao or even Liu Bei), remember that Sun Ce got Zhou Yu on their side, the guy who later on managed to make a large contribution in defeating Cao Cao's large navy that attacks Wu

Sun Ce becomes the strongest warlord in China at 25. And here I am at 25 watching KZread videos with nothing to my name lol.

If you have played all Dynasty Warriors game you have to know most of these things.

@Zhou_Yu

4 жыл бұрын

Of course

@Safersephiroth777

4 жыл бұрын

@@Zhou_Yu Glad that you agree!

@charanawijesiri1128

4 жыл бұрын

I played romance of the three kingdoms franchise. You get to know 1000+ characters from this period and its the stretagy version of dynasty Warriors from the same company :)

That White Tiger Yan must be a master of escape

Excellent like always. A video about Sun Bofu the "Little Conqueror" in the novel. The meeting and strategy between Sun Ce and Lu Fan was during a game of Go according to the Sanguozhi. He established his HQ at Qu'a because it was the former territory of his mother family ( Wu Jing his uncle was governor of the place). Also when Ce died, he ignored the promogeniture succession, he had a son, Sun Shao of 3month old, and named Sun Quan, 18 years old, his heir, he did this for the good of his newly created state. Not to mention the talents he brought and transfer to his brother, Zhou Tai (who saved Quan's life), Jiang Qin, Zhou Yu, Lu Fan, Xu Kun, Lu Meng, Zhang Zhao, Zhang Hang, truly a conqueror and funder of Wu, ignored later by his brother.

I think you forgot that Sun Ce sold the Imperial jade seal that his father got from the ashes of Luo Yang to Yuan Shu and got 5000 man, after Yuan Shu got the Imperial jade seal, then he became emperor

@simahui3383

3 жыл бұрын

He left out alot of things, I suspect he is going off the total war game and not history/novel.

@stefthorman8548

4 ай бұрын

what? in the game you have the choice of giving the jade or not.@@simahui3383

Excellent content! The one thing that would improve the viewing for me is if you had the major rivers displayed on the political map as well. They so often act as solid borders in these ancient conflicts and would better explain to the viewer why armies move in certain ways and do not take the direct route. (similarly with mountains but those are a bit tricky to depict without burdening the map)

@bluemountain4181

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah the narrator kept mentioning how he could or couldn't proceed west up the Yangze, but didn't show where that was exactly

"The good ones never live long, the shit ones neither. Its us in the middle that live the longest" - Dolorous Edd

@nordicgaming5429

2 жыл бұрын

Ey, Edd your’e here!

I just love the titles the Chinese gave out. Instead of just being just another commander among many, the title was personalized to show the (alledged) deeds of the title holder.

@ottovonbismarck5067

5 жыл бұрын

@@JoeSmith-sl9bq Those titles weren't empty, most of the time. There were exceptions, but they exist in Western nations as well. We also had plenty of titles that in the end meant shit in reality.

@nobblkpraetorian5623

5 жыл бұрын

@@JoeSmith-sl9bq Those titles were used to build the general's reputation. For example in Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Liu Bei was granted the title of "Imperial Uncle" by the Emperor but it doesn't grant him any real imperial authority. Instead, Liu Bei used that title to gain support from the common people.

@LibeliumDragonfly

5 жыл бұрын

@@nobblkpraetorian5623 That basically just shows that the emperor recognizes him in the Han imperial family tree, and is one generation older than him, and nothing else. It's not really a title, more like a nickname that stuck. To that extent Liu Zhang is the same generation as Liu Bei, and by all means is also an imperial uncle.

@LagunaShirogane

Жыл бұрын

Ancient Egypt says hold my beer. Their titles are more outrageous and lofty and more meaningless than the Chinese LOL

@stefthorman8548

4 ай бұрын

the one who gave it, is an child who had ptsd from his whole world taken from him, obviously he meant it as an title, since this is to give legitimacy, to liu bei, since that backstabber had none, he's so far removed from the imperial family that he's an poor rural clerk, real distant relatives of the imperial family are made to be governors and the like, he only has hearsay to prove his line was part of the imperial blood @@LibeliumDragonfly

Sun ce achieve a lot at the age of 25

@EwWhoIsTHAT

5 жыл бұрын

At age 25 I was still figuring out what to do with my life :(

@KingsandGenerals

5 жыл бұрын

That never ends :-)

Thanks for another great vid!! I find it mostly accurate. It's a pity there's so much to dwell into in terms of actual history, and yet so difficult to share the relevant information to many people. The language barrier and relatively smaller numbers of KZread content creators in Asia often prevent the exchange of some really good information -- particularly frustrating is the fact that there's hardly a chance to offer how the academia/military historians interpret the sources. ... To briefly introduce just one, for the benefit of anyone who might be interested, it's pretty much widely accepted that the efforts of Sun Jian and Sun Ce have expanded the future foundation of Wu, but at the same time also laid out the inherent problems that would come to plague the 'empire' of the Sun family. . China had a relatively stronger and more sophisticated/efficient system of both bureaucracy and imperial rule(+ smooth system of succession of power) when compared to the Western world of the same time frame, which resulted in a very centralized rule with great power to the government. However China was still way too large mass of a land for ancient kingdoms to rule efficiently, and at the same time the history of annexation of the "River East" regions into the realm of Chinese culture, was relatively short -- as compared to the Guanzhong ("fortress plains" where the two imperial capitals of Han dynasties were located) and Hebei ("River North" the once power base of three different kingdoms during the pre-Qin era) regions which served as the seat of kingdoms of old. . This also meant that the nature of governance in the "River East" regions -- the power base of the Suns -- were not as centralized as the old Han regions. The regions south of the Chiangjiang(Yangtze river) were relatively less developed, had smaller number of people and population centers than up north, was weaker in economic base, and also had a very strong tendency of powerful regional nobles forming a system of cooperating with governors sent by the Han Empire. These noble houses were a force to be reckoned with, and a wise governor would always form alliances with them to rule the regions in peace. This was the same with the "River East" regions when the Sun family became a prominent force. . Therefore, the southern/south-eastern military campaigns of Sun Ce, were actually attempts to subdue the powerful regional nobles, and a keen observer would notice that almost all of the retainers, officials, and generals serving under Sun Quan were from the prominent noble families of the south. What is speculated and widely accepted, is that Sun Ce's campaigns were a continuous process of subduing the southern nobles with military strength, and then coaxing them into forming an submissive alliance with the Sun family. So in a nutshell, Wu was structurally much more "feudal" than Shu or Wei. This was the reason Sun Ce's campaigns resulted in such rapid expansion of territorial power, but at the same time, the Suns did not have the absolute centralized control over their subjects which Cao Cao or Liu Bei had. . TL;DR? The Suns were the leaders of an alliance of nobles of the south, but they could not decide the fate of their lands alone. They always had to worry about retaining a certain amount of control over the nobles. Sun Ce's assassination is one circumstantial proof of the strong internal resistance the Sun family faced despite seemingly rapid expansion of power. Sun Quan's court deadlocked in a debate as to whether fight or surrender when Cao Cao started moving south, is another. Sun Quan's troubled political rule in the latter days of the Three Kingdoms Era is the third evidence, and the brutal and bloody political purge Sun Quan initiated in his final days, which was mostly targeted against the noble families and decimated them, is the fourth. . Sorry for the long wall of text.. but I can talk for days on the Three Kingdoms Era! :D

@bintangyudha4777

5 жыл бұрын

Nah but its decentralize nature of wu wich make it survive from dictator prime minister like sima zhao in wei or weak ruler who really to single person like liu chan in shu , however its decentralize nature have weakness just as you say

Hey Kings And Generals, i want to thank you for this video, first time i watched it was 9 months ago and totally bought the game. It is one of my favourites plus i read about the Three Kingdoms period and i really got into it. Ever since then your videos are my favourites. The Ottoman Wars and Caesars are the best!

If Sun Ce wasn’t assassinated by Xu Gong’s men, he would’ve easily conquered Xuchang and Cao Cao would’ve been defeated at Guandu... the whole Three Kingdoms may have never happened.

Mad respect for Sun Ce, he started as a general with no land, to forging a superpower

@nobblkpraetorian5623

5 жыл бұрын

Calling Wu a "superpower" is an overstatement. Wei would be considered the superpower of the day because it's the strongest out of the 3 kingdoms.

@user-hg9ln8kz5w

5 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderchristopher6237 Shu is the weakest, most of time it only occupied one or two states among 13 of Han.

@user-ew1sb9nu4d

5 жыл бұрын

Sun wu was a country made up of warlords. The generals were not only officers but also local administrators

@user-ew1sb9nu4d

5 жыл бұрын

Sun wu was a country made up of warlords. The generals were not only officers but also local administrators

@stevej1235

5 жыл бұрын

Started as age 16, really a legendary

why the hell do these excellent generals who kick ass,just die so early?!

@justinleecw

5 жыл бұрын

Dominykas Simonis Anyone can die in the Three Kingdoms.

@Nick-hi9gx

5 жыл бұрын

@Kuroi Karasu Who can we think of? Zhou Yu, Lu Meng (because of a ghost, totally historically accurate, and also wasn't that young early 40s), Gan Ning might count, Taishi Ci wasn't that young but he died early in the period, Ling Tong, Ce obviously. Who else?

@Nick-hi9gx

5 жыл бұрын

@@KaiserMattTygore927 When I play an ROTK game, that is generally what it comes down to; me as Cao Cao against the Wu, or me as the Wu against Cao Cao.

@amitabhakusari2304

5 жыл бұрын

Because plot armour doesn't exist in real life.

@bearbear8386

5 жыл бұрын

he was some what like alexander the great, but he wasn’t as lucky as alexander. F to pay respects

This channel makes THE BEST historical documentaries. Top-notch team.

@KingsandGenerals

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Your pronunciations make me so happy. Thank you!!! No other youtuber has done this correctly, not even the the english in the total war game itself!

Awesome video. You have the best history channel on all of youtube. Keep it up!

One sentence conclusion: Sun Ce traded the Heirloom Seal of the Realm (Imperial Seal, which was forged in 221 BC, and the occupation of it is considered as the "Legitimacy" to establish your own kingdom) found by his father Sun Jian in Luoyang (the seal was lost in Luoyang city during the conflicts that time) for an army from Yuan Shu, and finally defeated all the warlords in the southeast and established "Wu" (Eastern Wu) Since the Imperial Seal was in Yuan Shu's hands, among all the warlords only he claimed that he was the new Emperor.

please make complete history and war of three kingdoms era, like you did in Alexander

Thank you for posting this video can't wait for more videos on the three kingdoms

This channel teaches me of history I'd probably never stumble upon. Thanks guys, you are great!

@KingsandGenerals

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I really need to work on remembering pre-modern Chinese names. It makes studying ancient history a bit challenging for me

@weldonwin

5 жыл бұрын

Its the pronunciation that gets me, since they are spoken very differently from how they are written in English

@kakaman05

5 жыл бұрын

Let me tell you. I'm Chinese and I can't even remember them lol. I remember most of their name by playing dynasty warriors on ps2 when little.

@user-xb9yv2ci4c

5 жыл бұрын

@@kakaman05 I would have thought, that this is illegal in China as it depicts a rebellion. Something the Chinese government probably doesn't like.

@ironboy1023

5 жыл бұрын

0000000 0000000 Chinese people consume media about the Three Kingdoms all the time. Why would the government censor a historical rebellion? That comment is pretty ignorant.

@Suite_annamite

5 жыл бұрын

When you're dealing with *Asian history* and you're bombarded with *two-syllable names* , it's the dead-giveaway sign of *archaic and ancient times, and from the north.* *Two-syllable names* are *still today* associated with isolated *northerners.*

died at 25 yrs old? Sun Ce could be the next Alexander the Great in China if he lived til 30!

@pfl95

5 жыл бұрын

More like Cesare Borgia

@james-97209

5 жыл бұрын

@sinnerandprejudice not so much he was unnecessary brutal paid no mind to anything other than direct combat and in the end he was outwitted , outmanoeuvred , outmatched got himself and his army trapped and killed to the last man Alexander the great was the complete opposite of that

@Chemicalkinetics

5 жыл бұрын

@sinnerandprejudice Xiang Yu and Alexander the Great are pretty different (not the same way mentioned by others). Xiang Yu is considered one of the most fierce warrior and general at his time, if not the entire Chinese history. He rarely lost any battle, but he ended up losing the single most important war -- due to failure in diplomacy and strategy. He raised up a fearsome army by a rebel army. He could have had a second chance if he had escaped to his home territory (Eastern China), but he was shameful that ten years ago 8 thousands Eastern Chinese started his rebellion, but now they are all dead, so he killed himself in shame instead of starting a second rebellion. Alexander inherited one of the greatest army from his father. The Macedonian army was already very good at his father's time. Alexander also was a great general who rarely lose any battles. They are both very temperamental. "He had always had a violent temper and been rash, impulsive and stubborn. "

@Chemicalkinetics

5 жыл бұрын

@sinnerandprejudice I would say Genghis Khan comes close to Alexander in term of achievement.

@MIMALECKIPL

4 жыл бұрын

@sinnerandprejudice Still it was Liu Bang who defeated Xiang Yu

The quality of your videos are legendary

Fantastic documentary. Thanks for showing it.

More vids on Chinese military history please!

Okay as an rts freak and history lover, I am subscribing this channel. 👌👌👌

I’m very excited to watch this series. Keep it up!

@KingsandGenerals

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! More on the way!

Awesome content as usual !

12:39 "That wolf cub..." Scared the hell out of me hahahahaha

I have loved 3K period since I was like 13, Dynasty Warriors got me into it and 3K was one of the major segways that got me into history. I was disappointed when TW3K was announced to be based on Romance, and was hopeful when they said there was a Records mode, because the damn novel just overshadows almost all historically accurate entertainment. It is great to see a series of minidocs on the period. Fascinating period, incredible feats done by incredible people that just get romanticized into fantasy.

@moniak2716

5 жыл бұрын

records mode is still great though, no more solo generals, and i love the fact that max unit size is now 240

@boshengjones1778

5 жыл бұрын

Nah, they all romance mod to me. The Romance book popularised images of the period, but dressed all the characters in armour and weapons of the Ming period which was the period the author lived. Real 3K didn't have Guan-Dao for example, the glaive staff used by Guan-Yu is really a standard anti-armour weapon of the Ming period. Real 3K period didn't have the almost plate-like quality of the later chinese interlocking scale armour, would be pointless for anyone to use specialised anti-armour weapon.

Thank you K&G team for this video. This last week as I was resting, recuperating from Malaria, not able to do my work, the one thing I was able to do was read Chinese History from the time of the Yellow Turban rebellion, the collapse of the Han dynasty, the rise of the 3 kingdoms, the capture of Shu by the Wei, the Usurpation of the Wei by the Jin and the subsequent reunification of China, followed by the divisions all the way through the northern and southern dynasties(and the five barbarians), Qi, the Liang, the Sui and the reunification by The Tang and then the division once again due to the An Lushan rebellion. My hope is that in a span of as many videos as possible we will get to see this magnificent history through the magic of K&G storytelling. 🙇 Also please you have to cover the 2 emperors who took the titles o Emperor Ming in the Qi and Liang Dynasties. Those guys were ruthless af. Especially the one who murdered probably 100 of his uncle's sons and grandsons. Also cover the ruthless Empress Zetian who even killed her sons, the crown princes.

HOLY MOSES, KINGS AND GENERALS UPLOADS!

Sun family Ancestor --SunTzu. Author of "Art of War"

5K subscribers in 1 Day!Wow...the Channel is growing😊

@KingsandGenerals

5 жыл бұрын

That is the goal. :-)

Really enjoying the series! Finally going to jump into the tw2 three kingdoms series!

Love a good story on a sunday afternoon

This why he got his title... The Little Conqueror.

@akmr.mafiax6363

5 жыл бұрын

He was young and he conquered a lot

@SK133Zangetsu

3 жыл бұрын

His title came from Xiang Yu (known as "Xi Chu Ba Wang" - Conqueror of Western Chu) so Sun ce's title is little Xiang Yu.

I love these China history videos. No one is talking about eastern history, everybody is so eurocentric

@affandi99

5 жыл бұрын

Me too, even better when you play Dynasty Warriors while learn some China history from this video :)

@heathenfire

5 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. I'm happy that there is a growing interest among people to learn about Asian history and that more and more KZread channels are covering this region's history. But after watching a couple of videos of the channel 'from nothing', I've realised how little importance people give to African history and African culture. Everyone acts like Africa is a single homogeneous place where everyone is a poor tribal. But it's more diverse than Europe and I'm sure it has had many important and interesting wars. Most people have no knowledge about African history.

@Suite_annamite

5 жыл бұрын

*Middle Easterners* are the *most ethnocentric* when it comes to *their grasp on world history.* *North Africans* are a slight *exception* , as they know that not everything is about Arabia or the East Mediterranean.

@heathenfire

5 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderchristopher6237 in guess you're right. Unfortunate

7:55 Cao Cao: How many times do I have to teach you this lesson old man?!

This is great , I love three kingdoms era

Hey, guys, great video as always! Will you get more involved with Cao Cao? He seems to be an interesting character. On a side note: are you guys interested at all in delving into alternate (military) history/scenarios? (Hannibal victorious in 2nd Punic War, etc.) I’ve always found it interesting and it can be a fun side project like those Game of Thrones episodes. Just food for thought. (Some will people will definitely hate it, though 👍)

7:50 Yuan Shu: "Ok guys, I'm in charge now, I'm the big man on campus and you better like it" Everyone else: "Oh no he didn't! Hell no!"

Great video! I have one recommendation: It would be helpful to have an episode or at least some intro about the Chinese geographic terrain because just a flat map showing the borders doesn't make much sense of why the war lords and the kingdoms layout the way as it is. I would appreciate to see a terrain map in the background.

I love this channel ❤

@KingsandGenerals

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

The three kingdoms are always fascinating.

@heathenfire

5 жыл бұрын

How about the hundred thousand kingdoms? It's a book

You are true warrior of the three kingdoms Dynasty warriors anyone?

@pinogames8091

5 жыл бұрын

me...but in dw i like lubu tbh

@Fatihturk0071

5 жыл бұрын

Ma chao and zao yun are my favourites

@lrakreacts8518

5 жыл бұрын

1000 Kos lol

Please more videos about this era!

A week for Total war and a week for Imperator Rome, Great video as always

Some sources said he became insane after the arrow shot on his face and couldn't rest properly so his wound was broken, it was not surprising considering he was almost a perfect young man who was handsome, successful, good at martial strength and military affairs, and had just married one of the most good looking woman in the region( Daqiao), while his close friend Zhou Yu married Daqiao's sister Xiaoqiao.Then all of sudden he fell from the peak of his life.

@susugeki

5 жыл бұрын

That's Romance version, not actual history.

@katsuieshibata7493

4 жыл бұрын

​@@susugeki "History" written by the winning kingdom with few lines to summary important events.

@susugeki

4 жыл бұрын

@@katsuieshibata7493 irrelevant. Romance includes many elements of fiction and it is not objective history record. Its historical fiction at best. Your english skill must be inadequate.

@apsinthos5439

4 жыл бұрын

@@max7890 feels like socialism propaganda to me

@LagunaShirogane

Жыл бұрын

Da Qiao and Sun Ce's daughter would later marry Lu Xun who was famous for the fire attack at Yi Ling in 220 AD.

When is the next Pyrrhic Wars i need to know. *WE need to know.*

@phile1832

5 жыл бұрын

Next sunday probably and the last part 2 sundays after

@evansmaipas5103

5 жыл бұрын

Well Pyrrhus was a beast of a General he beat the Romans without any help more than twice

@MichaelSmith-ij2ut

5 жыл бұрын

They COULD tell you what you want to know, but the victory would be hollow.

I've said it before and I'll say it again you guys make awesome content

@KingsandGenerals

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks:-)

In fact, Sun Ce (175 AD - 200 AD) was referred to as the Little Conqueror when he won the campaign against Yuan Shu, alongside Liu Bei. #China #Documentary #DynastyWarriors #DynastyWarriors9 #TotalWar #ThreeKingdoms #TotalWarThreeKingdoms #CaoCao #SunCe #SunQuan #LiuBei #YuanShu

The WU are my favorite faction in the three Kingdoms period and home to most of my favorite characters

damn what a legend

Finally a sole video on Sun Ce. He's really underrated. Had he lived longer, things could've been different.

Great vid👍👍👍👍👍

I'm having more trouble following this than I should because Dynasty Warriors trained me to associate blue with Wei, red with Wu, and green with Shu 😂

Hey K&G! Another beautiful video as always! Can I ask which video editor you use for these videos?! Just as a matter of curiosity.

@KingsandGenerals

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Adobe After Effects

@LionKing-ew9rm

5 жыл бұрын

@@KingsandGenerals One of the hardest but greatest editors available! Good job!

im commenting as well as liking all while being subscribed

@KingsandGenerals

5 жыл бұрын

Good. :-)

Amazing

This guy legit dead because he can't keep his mouth shut @_@

@hectorvega621

5 жыл бұрын

It's not new, but they don't result in dying by open wound.

@omshah8529

Ай бұрын

😂

Chinese history is so romantic. I told my ex gf about some Chinese historical events. Maybe I shouldn't talk about Three Kingdoms during my dates.

@KC-de1ds

5 жыл бұрын

They have a book called the romance of the three kingdoms which is modeled after this period in Chinese history.

@heavenwatcher100

5 жыл бұрын

@@saint_matthias Sui and Tang dynasties' politics are heavily influenced by females. You should focus on this part of Chinese history to serve your interest. I can give you some figures: Princess Yicheng of Sui and Princess Wencheng of Tang. The Dugu family especially Empress consort Dugu Qieluo(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dugu_Qieluo) And of course, the real and only female Emperor of China, Wu Zetian(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_Zetian). Her daughter Princess Taiping, daughter-in-law Empress Consort Lady Wei, and court woman Shangguan Wan'er were also ambitious female politicians.

@heavenwatcher100

5 жыл бұрын

A romantic relationship, long united, must divide. BibleThump

@hyltoniali257

5 жыл бұрын

The Romance of the 3 kingdoms are legendary stories edited by Luo GuanZhong based on “San Guo Zhi”, true historical record by Chen Shou

@XuerLi

5 жыл бұрын

It is romance for men not women, ancient China history is full of cunningness and violence.

You were sponsored by two of my most anticipated games: total war and Imperator

Love this period in history!

It's amazing that he died the same way Cesare Borgia died by being separated from his forces, 2 remarkable Generals one dead at 25 the other at 30. ⚔️

Sun Ce could potentially beat both Cao Cao and Lui Bei and unify China. He was a great military strategist but Cao Cao is like Caesar who is both a top general and politician.

@sephiroxicalcloud3771

5 жыл бұрын

Nah, I feel like his premature death is destined. He is too fearless in battles(traits got from father maybe) and always charged head first into enemy ranks. This habit will lead to his certain death sooner or later.

@bintangyudha4777

5 жыл бұрын

Nah at the time before years 207 liu bei still nothing (he just come to runan after and later get protection from liu biao) he only rise following battle of chibi in 207/208 by occupied much of jing province and than occupied shu teritory in 213 , on other hand opportunity to sunce conquer(if he not died ) cao-cao only before yuan shao defeated since ater yuan shao defeated not only his frontiers province secure (except mybe mateng and his son machao in xiliang ) he also gained much of yuanshao fortune and also his soldiers

@heavenwatcher100

5 жыл бұрын

@@sephiroxicalcloud3771 Sun Ce, Harald Hardrada of Norway and Wladyslaw III of Poland all died from this trait.

@user-uw2gs5gz7f

5 жыл бұрын

Countless times in history, it has been proved that a general who does not understand politics cannot unify China.

@bintangyudha4777

5 жыл бұрын

@@heavenwatcher100 except at the time(battle stamford bridge) harald already old and isnt he gained denmark and norway ?

This was cool!

great video as always, but the map is missing the Yangtze River! That's the key to Wu's independence and so many of the naval battles are fought on the river...

Who else cried when Sun Ce died? (Okay, I didn't really cry but I felt sad and sorrow).

Sun Jian(WenTai) wasn’t only killed by a single arrow, but Liu Biao(JingSheng) poured a rain of arrow upon his battle vessel🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹😵💀

I really want to get TW: three kingdoms. Seeing the plug made me go back to TW:Empire and run another long campaign

Can you make a documentary about the wars of unification Or The Warring states Period of China?, That will be a great documentary.

Can we also get a series about the Three Kingdoms in Korea? I'd love that. Please make it happen ♥♥

@heavenwatcher100

5 жыл бұрын

Silla is the best Korean Kingdom.

@sephiroxicalcloud3771

5 жыл бұрын

During the Korean three kingdoms period, the power distribution feels much more imbalanced compared to the Chinese three kingdoms and is therefore less interesting(to me). It's basically Goguryeo dominating until Tang fucked it up.

@Koma_Wa

5 жыл бұрын

@@sephiroxicalcloud3771 I don't think so. Yes, goguryeo was the biggest but if it really was the strongest why didn't prevail out of the three before the tang's China allied forces?

@sephiroxicalcloud3771

5 жыл бұрын

@@Koma_Wa Because wars with China and nomadic tribes like the Khitans drained Goguryeo's power. While the other two kingdoms experienced comparatively limited conflicts with foreign power. If no outsiders interfere with the peninsula, Goguryeo would've easily annexed the whole region.

@esa2236

5 жыл бұрын

No

Chi bi river battle next please

Almost as many characters as in Game of Thrones xd. Great video!

Ayyy more 3 kingdoms!

A couple of corrections. It's Tao Qian not Tao Qin. Also, Taishi Ci joined Sun Ce AFTER Liu Yao's death, not before.

I've got my Tonfa right beside me. Now go.

@SeanHiruki

5 жыл бұрын

napolien 1 the little conquerer is ready!

Its said Sun Ce died due to being cursed by a mystic that he beat to death during his campaigns in a fit of rage after the mystic told him of a prophecy and Sun Ce disbelieved it while pitching a fit. Thats when the mystic warned him that of the consequences of attacking him. That's when he killed him casting the curse upon him. Sun Ce died days later as a result from it. Him being shot in the jaw by an arrow is likely linked to this myth or legend surrounding Sun Ce's death. Sun Ce's daughter with the elder Qiao sister would later on marry Wu Tactician Lu Xun who would be the genius behind the fire attack at the Battle of Yi Ling in 220 AD. Fun fact: Sun Jian often stated claim to being directly descended from the famous Sun Tzu in his life time. Not sure how many people knew this about Sun Jian and he was born on my birthday which was July 4th. Which is pretty neat to me.

I’m embarrassingly ignorant when it comes to Chinese history. Thank you for this great beginning for me to dive deeper.

Eastern Wu was perhaps the best of out of the Three Kingdoms with their incredible navy, huge emphasis on trade and commerce as well as its effective bureaucracy that was built up and ran smoothly under Sun Ce's brother Sun Qian. Such a shame that its last emperor Sun Hao was such a corrupt and cruel despot and undoubtedly one of the worst emperors in China's history, undid all the hard work of Sun Jian, Sun Ce and Sun Qian and turned Wu into a failed state that got easily conquered by Jin. Goes to show that it only takes one rotten apple to spoil the bunch.

@SaboPlat

5 жыл бұрын

well it took another 80 years to destroy Wu

@LibeliumDragonfly

5 жыл бұрын

Sun Quan himself was a alcoholic and pretty insane due to chronic alcohol consumption later in his life. His deeds such as forcing a 80 something years old Zhang Zhao to drink, eventhough he is elderly and said he couldn't, and basically sidelining Lu Xun so much he died over depression.

@LagunaShirogane

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Sun Hao's antics as Emperor of Wu costed alot for Wu. The loyalty of its people, death of many great officers due to his paranoia and quick temper (which was a known trait for the Sun Family...the temper part). Sun Hao executed several members of his own house and trusted officers due to his paranoia and drunkenness. Wu didnt fall to invasion. Wu fell due to internal corruption from within. It was said when the Jin Dynasty came to invade Wu after Shu fell, the soldiers of Wu just simply opened the gates to Jian Ye and let the Jin forces through without a fight and surrendered immediately due to the piss poor state Sun Hao was running their country. It was better to let the Jin rule them than to continue rule under a corrupt tyrant like Sun Hao. From my understanding, Sun Hao was either assassinated during Jin's invasion or he was simply executed by the Sima Clan. But I think he was assassinated.

Yuan shu = prime example of a player who triggers realm divide too early

@LagunaShirogane

Жыл бұрын

Yuan Shu was arrogant and was selfish and knew how to manipulate and play the game to his advantage. The fact that he proclaimed himself Emperor was the moment that he outplayed himself not considering the circumstances of the situation at the time or just realizing his situation at all that his timing for such a declaration was bad. Had he waited a bit longer and solidified more territory for unification and perhaps even challenged Tao Quin or Liu Biao for supremacy, or perhaps even coordinate with his brother in the north against Cao Cao to gain Wei's souther territories in the Central Plains such as Xu Chang, he may have had a chance to make such a declaration. But nope....he got power hungry when he got that Imperial Seal from Sun Ce and blew every chance he had when he made his declaration as Emperor. Good job, Yuan Shu! You out played yourself.

More 3 kingdoms please

very very good👍