Dr. Brubaker, what about us internet folks who want to learn as well but can't go to VIU? I want to take an online course with you on the topic and I suspect that a good chunk of your subscribers want to do that as well.

"Verily We: It is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Qur'an) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption) ." QS 15:9

*When Qur'an was recorded during the lifetime of Muhammad himself* , the verses were NOT pinned down to text unless they were checked *against the recited Qur'an* [the verbal format learnt by heart* ], not against scrolls or manuscripts..etc. *If you don't know this patent fact, you should confess to ignorance and refrain from writing books

@onlignebridge4224

3 жыл бұрын

@Traditional CatholicWhat proves you're not brainwashed?!!

This will be a fascinating and enriching experience for those who can be a part it.

When will you, Daniel, be releasing your video responding to the Turkish scholar’s criticisms of your book on Quranic variants?

@knowdiff

3 жыл бұрын

Pleas, Dr Brubaker, do answer Don Arie's query with a definitive answer. Thanks.

@variantquran4505

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the interest. I answer this question here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aJOllNVvqdCZnbA.html

@dorarie3167

3 жыл бұрын

@@variantquran4505 Thank you. In truth, I wasn’t intending to rush you, and I do hope you take as much time as you need for a fitting response to be delivered. I’m also wondering if you know of or have watched the video featuring Mohammed Hijab and Islamic scholar Yasir Qadhi in which the latter states his now infamous declaration that “there are holes in the standard narrative”.

@variantquran4505

3 жыл бұрын

@@dorarie3167 Thanks for your patience. In truth, I have yet to read the book as other tasks keep getting in the way. I will get to it in due course. In answer to you latter question, I saw part of the video you mention last year when it was brought to my attention; I did not watch all of it.

@Yuki_fan1

3 жыл бұрын

@@variantquran4505 Can you giva a date when you think we can expect your review? People are thinking that you simply don't have answers to the questions dr. Altikulac is raising.

*Aaccording to which "version" you are "judging" Islam* ?!! Which ones don't have those famous "violent" verses?!! Because it suits you, *the "violent verses" are in all versions* (!!) No variants here!

Thank you. I plan to audit the course. I hope it's offered online.

Just invite 2 people who recite the Qur'an by heart. One from *Nepal and the second one from Mozambique* . Ask them to *simultenously* read out let's say verse 21 from chapter 33 onwards. *They will carry on reciting the same exact verses in the same arrangement*

@justaminute3111

3 жыл бұрын

Ah, I needed a laugh tonight.

Will students have ability to re-watch the lectures? I would like to take this course, but I know that I won't be able to absorb everything through watching it just once. I would like to be able to go back and re-watch each lecture after I've had time to think about it and absorb it.

REACTION ON DR. ALTIKULAC' REVIEW! IT'S BEEN 4 MONTHS! Is a promise a christian make not worth anything?!

Dan, very unfortunate that you decided to teach a course as a part of an Apologetic course to/against Islam. One of the reasons why I, as a Muslim, enjoyed watching your videos was your scholarly and unbiased approach to your work. Your participation in this course casts an unfortunate cloud over the academic nature of your work. Whereas I used to watch your videos for the pure enjoyment of learning, I (and I am sure other Muslims) now feel that there deeper/more sinister motivations other than pursuit of scientific discovery. Saddened to say the least.

and to think I just recently moved out of California. Would be awesome to be there.

Interesting!

@abbasbeig3943

3 жыл бұрын

John 5:30 (Jesus Said) " I do nothing by my own will but by the will of God Almighty" Jesus said I submitted my will to the will of God Almighty. This is simple definition of Islam. Person who submits own will to the will of God Almighty is called Muslim. Love Jesus, follow Jesus.

@onlignebridge4224

3 жыл бұрын

Obtain 3, 6 or 16 of the so-called Qur'an variants in the same page format & character size. Compare them line by line, word by word. *_You'll find out that they have the exact same chapters/verses order_* This applies also to the recited by heart Qur'an *Qur'an has the same chapter /verse order from the North Pole to South Africa.

Dan when are you going to make a video on Dr. ALTIKULAC'S review?!

-SO, *was prophet Harun "brother" of Virgin Mary* -peace be upon her? Yes, in a way. Not biologically, though. -Long before you asked yourself such a question, Qur'an anticipated it and "replied" -In the Quran, messengers are literally described as "BROTHERS of their peoples". Read on: *_"To the People of Aad, we sent their BROTHER_*_ Huud" [Qur'an verse]_* . There 4 or 5 such verses. Therefore, Harun is "brother" of Mary in their faith affiliation, I e. the eschatological values. May peace be upon them.

Sounds like a good course. I don't know you why you would restrict the course to Christians only. I hope you will put the contents of the lectures on KZread

@variantquran4505

3 жыл бұрын

I don't set the admission requirements, but it is a seminary. I am open to teaching a similar course elsewhere, and will certainly announce on this channel when I do so. Thank you for your interest, Afif, & best wishes.

@afifkhaja

3 жыл бұрын

@@variantquran4505 Thanks 😊

-After their defeat against the Persian army, *Qur'an sided with the Byzantines* because they were People of the Book. -Chapter 30: *The Byzantines have been defeated* In the nearest land. But they, after their defeat, will overcome. within 3 to 9 years. To Allah belongs the command before and after. *_And that day the believers [who believe in Muhammad] will rejoice_* [end of the verses. the believers will rejoice of the Byzantine victory] -So, it is maddening to notice how many Christians here have a strong affinity with 7th century pagans of Mecca against a Book which says all the good things about Mary & her Son -peace be upon them-!

@ttly8144

3 жыл бұрын

Prophet was pedo he was subhuman animal

Greetings Dan Brubaker, I wonder where can I learn to read and write Arabic. I want to learn Arabic, so high intention to read Arabic:)

I want to sign up. Are you doing it Mondays or every day? I know that I am late, but I will watch the Zooms to catch up. I would like to Audit. I went to the Veritas website. I don't see a course labeled "Introduction to the Quran." Please advise. I would like to do the audit at $280. Love your work. Got your 20 corrections book. My dissertation will be on the Quran. TY

I hope this could be the beginning of more courses about the Koran, hopefully open to non Christians, the Truth must be known because many souls are living in darkness. God bless!!! Greetings from Guatemala in Central America.

@onlignebridge4224

3 жыл бұрын

Just invite 2 people who recite the Qur'an by heart. One from Nepal and the second from Mozambique. Ask them to *simultaenusly* read out let's say verse 21 from chapter 33 onwards. *They will carry on reciting the same exact verses in the same arrangement*

I defy you! Obtain 3, 6 or 16 of the so-called Qur'an variants. Compare them line by line, word by word. *_You'll find out that they have the exact same chapters/verses order_* This applies also to the recited by heart Qur'an *Qur'an has the same chapter /verse order from the North Pole to South Africa. I am waiting for your reply.

@PRAEDICATORVERITATIS

3 жыл бұрын

What a fairy tale...

@blackjack8043

3 жыл бұрын

Ibn Masud didn't even have surahs 113 and 114 in his Quran lol

@onlignebridge4224

3 жыл бұрын

@@blackjack8043 Quran is a recited by heart reading. Event if all the written copies happen to disappear right now, Quran won't fade away. Get this in your thick head! - Yes, in Masood has *a strictly for personal use vulgate where he used to jot down his personal explanations/comments..etc* . Nothing obliged him to have all Quran in his individual copy designed for learning purposes. I can collect all verses pertaining to Nature in my strictly for personal use Vulgate, " excluding" the rest of the Quran. You see? I have spent 3 calories on your silky jibberish!

@worldcitizen3519

3 жыл бұрын

Brother can you answer me how a holy books approves hitting of a women and her witness is half of men and she should not get equal property as a male.

@onlignebridge4224

3 жыл бұрын

@@worldcitizen3519 No. It does not approve hitting women. The verse you are talking about deals with a *certain of wives* [not all wives, not all women]. -Inheritance shares are not linked to gender. How is that? In some cases, females inherit more than males or receive the same shares. If a Muslim dies and is survived by just a son & a daughter. the *female inherits exactly like her brother* . It is in that verse. Re-read the verse using a calculator, noting down the shares in fractions. As for testimonies, who would now resort to women witnesses in financial transactions/car deals/trade exchange especially rural societies? What is the percentage of females in these activities? But if they're specialized women, the picture changes. *I, for one, would take for witness a woman specialized in auditing/finance..etc because her testimony outweights that of laymen. It is a question of specialization.

Love your research and I would love to take your course - except; why do I have to be a Christian to take a course on Islam?

*When it suits them, Qur'an is invariable* . I say, invariable. For example, in the case of "the verses of violence"/status of women/disbelievers...etc they affirm/assert that they were NOT touched by the "variation". How can you trust them?!!

Dr Brubaker is A Legend !!!

Why you are not talking about the oral tradition where we have millions of Quran Hafith or Quran memorizal over 1400 years and most of them doesn’t know how to read or write Arabic. Why would a 9 years old in a village in Egypt or China or India or Nigeria momrized the all Quran the same way. You have to solve the oral tradition problem and why there are no oral variance even in the different Qraat. The oral tradition is what preserved Quran over 1400 years and literally millions and millions of Hafith scattered from Spain to China and through this oral tradition written manuscripts was always corrected because there were no copy machines or print productions. It is almost impossible for scriber not to make error specially if they are not Hafith or they don’t know the language which most of scriber are. The other interesting part is that oral tradition survived the Muslims civil wars was all the polorization and the claims of missing versus of Quran and missing all Quran like Quran Ali. There were much nastier claims about Quran variants made by Muslims scholars over the last 1400 years but none of those claims survived the tsunami of oral tradition with millions of momrizal of Quran across the earth over 1400 years. If you know what you are talking about , Hafith is a social status since 1400 years and millions and millions of men and women achieved that status across 1400 years. Just search KZread Muslims children Hafith and see what you get, majority dont speak the language man. Please point out variants in oral tradition and if cannot , you need answer why

Wil this be repeated? If so, can people from Europe join through Zoom?

Hi! Will the course be recorded on video? I dont have time at the moment, but would love to hear it?

Dr Brubaker, I thought you were a serious academic until Jay Smith appeared.... Its Jay Smith

How about us in London?

Imagine Dr. Brubaker being invited to speak/teach in Muslim-only schools... That's the audience that he really needs to reach.

@onlignebridge4224

3 жыл бұрын

As if what he is presenting was the ultimate Truth!!

@GulfportHooligan

2 жыл бұрын

Lmaooo he would get smashed fool

Hi Dr. Brubaker what do you think about Sam new find with the stories of Muhammad on sneakers corner..

@variantquran4505

3 жыл бұрын

I am sorry; I am not sure the reference here. Can you give more information?

@abbasbeig3943

3 жыл бұрын

John 5:30 (Jesus Said) " I do nothing by my own will but by the will of God Almighty" Jesus said I submitted my will to the will of God Almighty. This is simple definition of Islam. Person who submits own will to the will of God Almighty is called Muslim. Love Jesus, follow Jesus.

Please read the Al Kafirun. PERIOD.

-Ask them: *"the so called "verse of the sword"* ?, is it absent from some of those variants? -They would reply: No. "the verses of violence" (!!) aren't touched by the variation. *In this particular case Qur'an, to them, becomes invariable* . Now, judge for yourselves their moral ground.

@GulfportHooligan

2 жыл бұрын

You’re a 🤡 stop spreading lies and misinformation

Dr. Brubaker, how those who are non-abrahmaic religion?, how can we get assess?

@variantquran4505

3 жыл бұрын

I do not set the VIU seminary's admission policy, but I believe (as would be the case for any Christian seminary) that admission requires affirmation of a Christian statement of faith. In future, I would be open to teaching a similar course at a secular university, or even at an Islamic university. I will consider any such opportunities on a case-by-case basis, but am very happy for wider interest in this topic and hope to eventually be able to accommodate everyone's interest. Best wishes

@ABC-yh8bt

3 жыл бұрын

@@variantquran4505 Thank you Dr, for you reply.

Great 👍

@abbasbeig3943

3 жыл бұрын

John 5:30 (Jesus Said) " I do nothing by my own will but by the will of God Almighty" Jesus said I submitted my will to the will of God Almighty. This is simple definition of Islam. Person who submits own will to the will of God Almighty is called Muslim. Love Jesus, follow Jesus.

@onlignebridge4224

3 жыл бұрын

A whole channel dedicated to the so called "variant Qur'an" ?!! Just invite 2 people who recite the Qur'an by heart. One from Nepal and the second from Mozambique. Ask them to *simultaenusly* read out let's say verse 21 from chapter 33 onwards. *They will carry on reciting the same exact verses in the same arrangement*

Please continue your work

Good job

Why do you need to be a Christian to follow a course on the quran..?

Dan do you have ADHD? It's as if you are very anxious all the time, sometimes you look even scared.

Muslims often assure me that neither of you is an Islamic scholar. I think they define a Islamic scholar by whether they agree with them

@kyliereed200

3 жыл бұрын

Some of them find people like him intimidating because he’s looking at it through an academic eye, not a believing eye. It should not bother them as much as it does, if their faith is true and strong why would it matter what others say 🤷‍♀️

👍

Unlike this channel and its sisters, where only one opinion is put forward, the accusations against Muhammad *aren't hushed up by the Qur'an* but faithfully reported : that "he was insane, haunted, plagiarized ancient books, bewitched,..etc.". Verses read by Muslims in their prayers. This expresses a higher than normal confidence in his own endeavor. "I am sure of what I preach to the point where I let my detractors occupy part of the stage".

@GulfportHooligan

2 жыл бұрын

ASTAGFURALLAH

How are you going to teach about the Quran when you’re not Muslim and don’t believe in the Quran Astagfurallah…come on bro stop

Keep up the good work

@onlignebridge4224

3 жыл бұрын

A whole channel dedicated to the so called "variant Qur'an" ?!! Just invite 2 people who recite the Qur'an by heart. One from Nepal and the second from Mozambique. Ask them to *simultaenusly* read out let's say verse 21 from chapter 33 onwards. *They will carry on reciting the same exact verses in the same arrangement*

@kyliereed200

3 жыл бұрын

@@onlignebridge4224 Why are you so angry?

@onlignebridge4224

3 жыл бұрын

@@kyliereed200 His conclusions are already made. No harm in this. But don't drape proselytism with a thin film of "scientific research!". He won't retract, especially that he is hanging out with *Jay Smith, the professional liar* . watch kzread.info/dash/bejne/c4Chp5N9qayXYM4.html

@kyliereed200

3 жыл бұрын

@@onlignebridge4224 But you have the “only” truth right? You’re on the “right” path, yes? So enjoy it and love your religion by all means. People are free however, to critique and dissect the ideology. Especially when it’s followers make repeated and very bold claims such as “Your Bible is corrupt, Quran is the preserved word of God.” Or “We follow the one true God.” People can’t just say stuff like that and not expect people to want to look into it. It’s part of being human, the search to verify what is true and what is not, and everything else in between.

@onlignebridge4224

3 жыл бұрын

@@kyliereed200 You replied to me. And I did not talk about the Bible. You qualify Islam of "sec, ideologyt" and you vent the merits of "research" in order to prove a preset conclusion that "Islam is really a sect". No comment!

Hahaha, couple costum guys

John 5:30 (Jesus Said) " I do nothing by my own will but by the will of God Almighty" Jesus said I submitted my will to the will of God Almighty. This is simple definition of Islam. Person who submits own will to the will of God Almighty is called Muslim. Love Jesus, follow Jesus.

Nice Scam😆

I'll take IbnWarraq's advice and rather not waste my time in Islam Loving Exmuslims channels des days. Im done with Quran. Keep up ur amazing work Sir

@GulfportHooligan

2 жыл бұрын

Astagfurallah 🤡

Hmmm. Some Christians claim to be Jewish believers in Yeshua. Does that mean that I can qualify for the course as a Jewish non-believer in Yeshua?

@irtizahussain5001

3 жыл бұрын

No

@virginoftarshish2904

3 жыл бұрын

Do you believe that Jesus Christ suffered and died on the cross for your sins and then resurrected three days later? If you did then you are a Christian. If you don't then you are not a Christian. That's how simple it is. Why complicate it?

@MrAbuYaz

3 жыл бұрын

@@virginoftarshish2904 actually, according to Judaism we are responsible for our own sins and cannot seek an intermediary for salvation. So, no, I don't believe such a limited view of salvation is correct. Because we believe there are many paths to God, not just a Jewish path, and certainly not an exclusive one which consigns the rest of humanity to hell. What a terribly close-minded view of God.

@jordandthornburg

3 жыл бұрын

Because they are that bro. I don’t think you’d qualify as a non Christian.

@MrAbuYaz

3 жыл бұрын

@@-psykonaut- make that your theology.

Just invite 2 people who recite the Qur'an by heart. One from *Nepal and the second one from Mozambique* . Ask them to *simultaneously* read out let's say verse 21 from chapter 33 onward. *They will carry on reciting the same exact verses in the same arrangement*