I am definitely in the "I will mix it myself" camp, but I don't judge anyone for buying them already mixed. Painting should be fun, and however you get there is fine as long as it works for you. For those who do want to mix these on their own, I will say that after doing some experimenting, the colors with PB29 need French Ultramarine or a similarly granulating Ultramarine. Ultramarine finest will break out of the mixes and cause more color separation, which is nice if that's what you want, but it won't look like these. I have both French Ultramarine and Ultramarine Finest on my palette since they behave so differently.

@OtoKano

3 жыл бұрын

That's great info about which ultramarine to use, thank you!

Got to “thank you very much” and burst out laughing 😆 back to video 🌺

Coming to this really late, for some idea about how to buy around five of six individual colours to enhance an existing single pigment set. I do not like to be overwhelmed with choice! This range certainly does that. I knew from the start I would not want the sets, I would prefer a chromatic range I can adjust if I want. Still undecided though! But this give me a start point. I wonder how many people are actually using these sets having rushed to buy them as the sheer quantity of different colours available is so overkill! Loved the video, it helped clear my mind. Two years ago I might have been even more confused. I mix a lot of granulating colours using just a good granulating black, the mixes are usually lovely. But I do really like all the brown mixes you made….. so rich and lovely.

In Germany its kind of viewed as prestige if a company doesn't really explain itself. Schmincke is a very traditional company and works with a lot of local artists here in Germany. Its not a super special release here and is more or less views as gift sets if anything. great video though!

I honestly think the concept is very easy to understand, what is that you’re not getting? 😂 they made several pretty colours, and then put the ones that reminded them of galaxies/space in one group, and the colours that reminded them of a forest in another, etc. It’s not based on pigment mixing, it’s based on the instinctual association and emotion you get when you look at them. Painting is not all about scientific mixing of pigments; most people don’t look at a painting and say “ah, here is this pg747 pigment used right here”, they look at the painting and say “ah, this forest here is so pretty!”

Thank you. A great series and we will be rewatching them for years to come. The content and presentation is spot on and just fabulous. Thank you so much. Yes, I am not a mixer person but do love splashing color around on paper. Thanks again

@OtoKano

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your kind words :)

Thank you for this wonderful review. You helped me avoid my enthusiasm of "new" colors. I just decided I can mix my own and add granulating medium. A bit more work but I have so many Daniel Smith colors, many of which are already granulating colors such as Amethyst Genuine and Lunar Blue.

Thank you so much for this - I bought the primary pigments and that really expanded my palette! The Schmincke's granulating series is beautiful but I just mixed up potter's pink, turquoise, quin-gold, ultra blue and cobalt green deep with the Primatek's starter set and honestly all my jaw dropped. These pigments mix beautifully! Check them out!

@mariatriesart8389

2 жыл бұрын

Is this a way to mix your own granulating mixes?? Which colours are the Primatek starter colours? I have about 13 of them...I'd rather mix than buy more...

@otterwench

6 ай бұрын

for those interested, priced out 15ml tubes of all mentioned above at amazon added up to around $115. On my wish list now lol new watercolorist so building my palette

Thank you so much Oto. So very complete! These paints are very expensive in the US. Even their regular line are to rich for my blood. Champagne tastes on a kool-aid budget. 🤣👍💜

Thank you, this is so helpful! Was really excited to come across them singly now, and in half-pans, and trying to choose which ones to try. Now realise I have a lot of the base colours, and definitely need to play with those more first. A bit disappointing really, but now am looking forward to playing with PB29 and PG50 - I need more than two mixtures anyway ;-). And Potter's Pink in everything. One note: in the Schmincke catalogue the pigments for Tundra Violet are listed as PB29 Ultramarine (not PB26) and PBr6 Iron oxide (and Schmincke have a Mars Brown PBr6), so no mystery there.

That was very helpful! Some of these colours are very beautiful, but I agree that the sets don’t show a clear strategy. So thank you for showing them in such detail to help choosing individual colours.

@OtoKano

3 жыл бұрын

You are so welcome!

Their Forest Green is really cool for landscapes!! Glacier Turq. is another "must" buy in my list!! Thanks for showing these!!

Once again you have smashed it out of the park with this series! The unbiased observations throughout are so much appreciated. They way you describe the paints and their attributes provides info for all ends of the painting spectrum and needs of the painting community. You send your observations out here in the pigment nerd universe and allow us all to make the very best informed decisions on our purchasing. YOU ARE A GEM!!! As I watched I was mentally comparing them to some of the more granulating pigments by DS. I would enjoy seeing a comparison on a few of them. Hmmmm really wonder how they would measure up against each other. Things that keep me up at night... LOL Stay lovely Oto words can't express how much I appreciate all that you give to us here in your community. Lots of love and hugs from Canada (about 6 hours away from lovely Eve ;) )

This series was extremely helpful! Thank you so much for sharing the results of your testing.

Thank you for all the work you’ve done to share this with us.

Thank you for all this wonderful work, excellent analysis and great serie of videos.

Thank you so much for all that work. And separation colors by tinting strenght was genius!!!!

Wow so much info thank you. I finally bit the bullet and bought myself two sets but I really wish I would have seen this before I ordered them, I would have chosen differently. Oh well. I am a new fan of your channel. Thank you!

Thank you!!! You just saved me from making an expensive mistake. I'll be deleting the 10 tube set from my Jackson cart.

Thank you for your awesome extensive reviews!❤️

Thanks for all your swatches and details! One note: PB29 used in the supergranulating series is French Ultramarine (which is also granulating on its own) while Ultramarine Finest is NON granulating.

This was an excellent series! I know for certain I want Galaxy Pink.

So helpful!

Great great great data!!! Thank you so much, you are helping me to understand so much!!!

Oh darn, now I have another 40 half pan set i MUST buy. Guess the new mattress will have to wait another month. LOL

I became obsessed and tried to get all the little boxes with the 5 ML tubes of each. I was not fast enough to get the Volcano before it was discontinued. And I love the Volcano!

Very helpful, I'll use this to make the best choices for me 👍

Hi Oto! This is another fantastic overview. Thanks for insights into your favourites. I agree totally, that there seems to be no concept for these. They've asked a while ago on IG about their users favourite granulating mixes and maybe got inspired by that. The amount of blues they gave us in the first round is just too much. For my review of the first round (don't have the Forest and Tundra yet - but they're coming :D) I have counted the pigments they've used: 12. So if someone bought a tube of the pure pigment colours of each, it would cost them less than buying all 15 of the Supergranulating colours and still be able to mix them all. I don't know how the numbers are when you include the new ones. But I thought, that it's weird. The PB29-PG50 mixes are both so close to each other, that it makes me almost angry, that they've included them both. For that reason videos like yours are so important! Btw: Ginga Snaps has a channel and blog now and is covering her charts too, which are amazing! :) Thank you again for this video. I value your opinions a lot and your huge knowledge! :)

@OtoKano

3 жыл бұрын

That's really interesting that you need fewer tubes on single pigment colors! Thank you for that! Yes I am so glad she's started a youtube channel and I've linked it on the description (I had already uploaded my video by the time she made the channel).

@LanaGoesArt

3 жыл бұрын

@@OtoKano I bet it's even more the case with the new mixes included, as they've used several of the pigments they've used before for these ones too.

@art7714

2 жыл бұрын

where can one buy single pigment tubes? from schminke directly?

@LanaGoesArt

2 жыл бұрын

@@art7714 Schmincke offers many single pigment tubes. You can make a list of the pigments/colours you want and then buy those in art shops online or in person.

After watching your whole series i really leraned alot about these colors and what colors id enjoy ...i also enjoy your frank moments of honesty about the colors im like the convient premixed group lol as i get overwhelmed with learning techniques knowledge its only been three yrs into my art journery so im deft not a wc purist im more of a learning knowledge and helping art fill my soul with beauty. I think you made me want to get the one of galaxy colors and deft a few tundra colors im gonna stayvaway from blues andvtry tovexpanda colors ivwouldnt usually want to pick ...thank you again....mikelle art mom👩‍🎨🎨✍

Nice overview!

Super helpful review thank you oodles. Wouldn't we all love to be able to afford them all but seeing the similarities up close side by side has for sure saved me a tonne. These sets are reeeealy expensive which is a shame and honestly putting me off buying them even though I love schminke paints. I think I will swatch out everything I have and see ehat I can mix myself. The other thing to remember to is that granulating colour seems to be a bit of a craze atm, I think schminke are trying to cash in on that. Can't thank you enough for such a fabulous review 🙏

Super helpful video ❤

The forest and shire ranges are what won me over to the supergranulating range. I like granulation but it is not my main thing,however I love greens made from mineral colors. Most manufacturers use organic yellows in making the more earthy colors and I won’t buy any color that contains an organic red or yellow. They are the least reliable pigments in very thin washes. These mineral mixes have the great advantage of being absolutely lightfast in very pale washes. So I use these colors as a desirable addition to my normal watercolor palette. Having discovered the usefulness of forest and shire, I have now found lots of incredibly useful mixtures in all of the ranges. I don’t care about manufacturers trying to articulate concepts. I prefer to discover my own concepts. Daniel Smith’s poetic nonsense really annoys me. It is such nonsensical marketing BS that it is totally uninformative about real world color qualities. I prefer silence to BS.

I was waiting the whole day for this Video 😘😘😘

@OtoKano

3 жыл бұрын

awww that's so sweet!

I use watercolors for backgrounds in coloring books. Don't have a ton of watercolor just need specific colors for ground, sky etc. So these convenience mixes are right up my alley.

❤️just let people be who they are....right on! Peace!

Thank you for such a thorough review! I was fascinated by these colors because I love granulation. After I bought a sample set, I realized they were just combinations of colors that I could mix on my own. So, I bought a few tubes of single pigment colors. It's cheaper! I also noticed one of Schmicke's violets is made using strontium! That was a surprise; I suppose it's no longer radioactive : ) !

Thank you. This is interesting.

Thanks, that was so helpful

Love that colors 🤩 at the moment I have 6 of them

Thank you for a very educational series. I certainly have and use a lot of "convenience colors" and don't judge anyone who doesn't want to mix colors. Sadly, none of these really grabbed me-I agree with you that it all seems rather scattershot. (Or maybe not so sad for my budget!)

Thank you for this review. I appreciate it. I can't afford the paints right now, but maybe in the future it could be a possibility to get some.

@OtoKano

3 жыл бұрын

I hope you get to pick the right ones for you when the time comes :)

You did a fantastic review of all of the colors!!! You’re correct that one wouldn’t need every color as it looks to have several duplicates. Thanks so much for putting these product reviews together! Someone commented that there was a 5ml size collection of these - that would make them a bit more affordable to play with - I wonder who’s selling the smaller size tubes???

@julietatorres6961

3 жыл бұрын

If you search online for the "galaxy schmincke 5ml set" maybe you can find a store that sell them near you ;)

@OtoKano

3 жыл бұрын

Oh 5ml tubes make so much sense!

I have to say the whole thing about them being in sets is keeping me off from buying them. I can say I would maybe add 1 or 2 per set to my palette. I can't find them as singles in my regular shops I buy watercolours and I can't even find all sets . Thanks so much for showing them all and comparing them! And yeah...I do not see a real concept behind those sets.

@Llamanescent

3 жыл бұрын

Jackson's has all of the individual colors available online.

@mayuloves858

3 жыл бұрын

@@Llamanescent i checked the site and they currently do not ship them to my location.

@royalfutura

3 жыл бұрын

Blick has the single pigment tubes but they are only in a large size and very expensive; around $28 or $29.

@OtoKano

3 жыл бұрын

Where are you???

@mayuloves858

3 жыл бұрын

@@OtoKano I'm from Germany.

That map Gingersnaps made looks like a piece of art in and out of itself 😊 I like the colours that you choose, they look glorious 🥰 Am really tempted to buy those, here, even though I didn't really have the time to actually get back into painting in the past months ^^' I like all the blues, since blue is like my all-time favourite colour, but I already got cobalt turquoise (actually my only cobalt colour, it looked so gorgeous, but I try to steer clear of the heavy metal colours, so there's no other cobalts or cadmium colours on my palette ) and French Ultramarine, so I should do just great without buying those. If any, I'd get my hands at that Manganese violet ^^'

Schmincke is selling small sets of the diferent collections that make them really afordable. Each tube is 5ml. I just got the galaxy collection and I love it!. Great video!

@vigdissketches

3 жыл бұрын

Where did you buy them? I have only found the 15ml tubes., and would love to buy the smaller ones.

@julietatorres6961

3 жыл бұрын

@@vigdissketches I´m in Sapin and bougth them in a local art store in Barcelona called Barna art. Maybe you can find them online.

@vigdissketches

3 жыл бұрын

@@julietatorres6961 Will look for them. Thank you so much :)

Thank you so much

It would be interesting if Schmincke sold a "mix your own" set that included the single pigment paints needed to mix all of the colours in the range.

Well, this is awkward. 7:03 I just realized - the PDF I forwarded of the Vennstravaganza diagram has an oops! 😂 Deep Sea Violet was filled in one space above where it belongs. Deep Sea Violet contains PB29 and PBr33 and NOT PV16. Whelp! Sorry about that!! 😬 I did just put up a video and blog post last night about the Deep Sea, Galaxy, and Glacier colors - and at least in those it's marked in the right spot. Ahhh that's my bad. Sorry friend. ❤ wompwomp #noragrets #exceptmayberightnow

@OtoKano

3 жыл бұрын

honestly, I wouldn't have noticed!! Thank you for your amazing talent!

@GingahSnapsArt

3 жыл бұрын

@@OtoKano Thank you!! ❤

@RobinT346

3 жыл бұрын

what an amazing diagram. And thank you giving us the word Vennstravaganza

Bedankt

Tundra violet is made from pb29 (French ultramarine, probably, which is the granulating ultramarine blue) and pbr6, mars brown.

The concepts are nice 'natural-sounding' marketing terms. Pure fantasy.

I have a few of the Galaxy set and I plan to get the tundra set, I really love it. I was a little disappointed that the galaxy, deep sea and glacier blues look so similar and are all with ultra blue so I'm not planning on buying those. But I really also want to get forest brown and deep sea indigo. I think deep sea indigo is my favourite color out of all of these, and the galaxy brown XD

I will buy some that I really like, I have made some mixing other colors, but in order to achive the desired color, you waste more of the expensive horadam that you would like.

There are colors I like to mix (usually 2 pigment ones), but I like to buy my 3-4 pigment mixes, especially those colors that I like very much.

I prefer premixed due to their uniformity/consistency. I don't have to worry about mixing it the same every time. I had a friend who would always give me a hard time about it. I could never tell if it was because she thought I was wasting money or if it was an art school thing.

Great analysis. Just a note about Tundra Violet 11:10 - there are used pigments PB29 Ultramarine Blue (maybe Finest, maybe French) and PBr6 Mars Brown. I tried to mix and that's it.

@LanaGoesArt

3 жыл бұрын

They've had an error in a pigment number in the first round, maybe there's another error in the second round too?

@colorsmith659

3 жыл бұрын

Finest is the non granulating version (from times when granulation was a bug and not a feature...) . Should be French Ultramarine for this mix.

If you love, or just want to play with granulation and separating colors but don't like to waste money and palette space......... get a lunar black pbk11, then a single pigment granulating color for each of the 3 primary's....... a CD boom, you can make anything you see and MORE!

@koskey06

2 жыл бұрын

Mix any of then 3 with a staining color and watxh the magic! Or mix them togeather for diff effect

I wanted to test one or two. And I couldn’t. I was so confused. I’m watching this video today. I should have watched before, but I think that I didn’t see it before.

What an exercise. Mind of Watercolor recommended you. I want to just try a couple. There’s a big difference with Jackson’s swatch and yours but I think Tundra Violet, Deep Sea Black and maybe Forest Grey look good. Do you print those sheets? I have trouble printing on watercolor paper. Thanks

IMHO schmincke saw a trend and just jumped right in for a quick buck, not really caring about how useful or well thought the sets were... also, you have been saying how your videos arent performing as well... i think it is because theres SO MANY PEOPLE making swatching videos of these... even if your videos are (imo) better and more informative... people are just done watching videos about these paints? i was waiting for yours cause i knew your swatch cards were gonna be top notch :)

@OtoKano

3 жыл бұрын

That's a great point. Although my numbers have been low since I started posting videos again last year, as in when the second season of colossal color showdown started. I'm thinking it might be because my video are long and not the usual 10 mins youtube videos.

There actually exists a leaflet in German on the first three sets which contains a explanation what supergranulating means and has the pigment info and a bit of more information about them but I only got it when I wrote to schmincke directly but it's true the marketing of them is quite off. With the new colours also. There never was a info about any sets of them the older or new one that they are coming out with those colours. Same for the wooden boxes or the sets with the 5ml tubes. It was just good luck for them that granulating colours have so many fans in general so the hype was still big.

@OtoKano

3 жыл бұрын

yeah they did hit the right time to release this.

Its even more confusing and expensive now with volcano and shire ranges. 😂

Just a note on Tundra Violet: Jackson's lists the pigments as PB29 (Ultramarine Blue) and PBr6. (Not PB26.) OTOH, I am having trouble finding out what the pigments are from the Schmincke website itself, so that might be wrong. It is one of my favorites from your video reviews of this line - that color separation is great.

@OtoKano

3 жыл бұрын

I did write Tundra Violet as PB29 on the test sheet? Where did you see PB26? Please let me know so I can correct it :) Thank you.

@heelerjustheeler879

3 жыл бұрын

@@OtoKano See starting at (timestamp) 11:01, comparing the violets, Tundra Violet on the left side - it is the one you thought might be cobalt green and you wrote PB26 in the Original Colors box. But is likely PB29. This is the color where everyone wondered how it got to be purple, starting from green, but it probably starts from Ultramarine Blue. (Interestingly, all those violets with PB29 seem to have a shininess problem with the mass tone.)

@OtoKano

3 жыл бұрын

Oh thank you so much! I wrote PB29 on the top but clearly not on the original colors. Thank you, that makes way more sense as to how those colors make a purple as someone commented. Thank you for resolving a big mystery, I really appreciate it!

I might pick one or two of them to use one their own or in a very limited palette for urban sketching. None of the look quite as nice as Daniel Smith’s moonglow though!

There are some new sets

I think if I was buying one set, I would go for the tundra one. It appeals to me the most. But, tbh, I wouldn’t buy any of them in reality. I got my new tubes from DS and Schmincke two days ago, some granulating colours among them, and I feel very satisfied with them. So really no need for premixed granulating colours.

@OtoKano

3 жыл бұрын

woo what colors did you buy? :D

Hi I cannot find the discord link~ did you mention it is attached?

You mentioned high tinting strengths many times. Can you explain what you mean

I cant get myself to like these colors. I have 3 of them and in comparison the Primateks just suit my taste much better. Nonetheless I have many of Schminckes basic colors and if I ever need one they are easy to mix.

i would switch the names of Glacier and Galaxy blue

The galaxy violet reminds me of the Mijello Blue I love. @Dr. Oto Kano Did you get to play with that yet? Xoxo

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Your views are somehow silly here...if you cannot make out the difference between indanthrine and cerulean....list goes on and on...