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@thetake

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks to everyone who commented about the correction re: Greg telling Gerri about the press conference rather than Shiv! Oops. We're removing that part since we got that wrong. That scene on the car ride home does still feel significant, though, because of the way Tom looks at Shiv and how what THINKS happened changes his idea of her. And looking back, his initial response to the Cruises scandal to (sort of) "do the right thing" says a lot about who he was when we first met him.

@wendispanogians2569

2 жыл бұрын

Please give us your take on ‘Don’t Look Up’.

@RecreationalUseOnly

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao the wokeness of y’all with the “fascist” 😂 Nothing like a white liberal woman using the term “Narcissist” the wrong way.

@tsoprano4891

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting point- to which I would add: Conor Roy was interested in politics from a very young age.

@folklorianwitxh

Жыл бұрын

Shiv is the youngest sibling

This all could have been avoided if Connor had just taken his jacket off at Kendall’s party.

@LuisSierra42

2 жыл бұрын

He was killing the mood with that jacket on

@probablyalive.2665

2 жыл бұрын

But. Connor Roy was interested in politics from a very young age.

@sagarkhandare1319

2 жыл бұрын

@callmecatalyst I thought something happened at ranch..

@coolersspaceship7964

2 жыл бұрын

I was dying laughing at the end of the party when Kendall lost it and told him to take his jacket off🤣🤣

@sonder333

2 жыл бұрын

@@coolersspaceship7964 lmaooooo

I'd like to take this time to remind everyone, Connor Roy was interested in politics from a very young age.

@lostvarius

2 жыл бұрын

AND HE IS THE ELDEST SON !

@annejohnson5875

2 жыл бұрын

I am curious to know if his mom is still alive. All we know about her is that she was sent to a mental institution. If there's one thing we know about Logan's ladies is that his relationships with them always end very badly. Because Logan always must win no matter the cost.

@LuisSierra42

2 жыл бұрын

I think Connor would make a better president than Trump

@lostvarius

2 жыл бұрын

@@annejohnson5875 Maybe we’ll get to know more about his past in season 4… certainly a lot of dark stuff in there

@PaperMario64

2 жыл бұрын

@@LuisSierra42 Connie’s left shoe would make a better President than Trump.

Even so, there's something pathetic about an eighty year old man feeling the need to yell "I beat you!" at his children. And even MORE pathetic is a "mother" who said in season 2 that she would never sell them out for a piece of real estate and then in the finale she did exactly that.

@AkSonya1010

2 жыл бұрын

One thing I have noticed about this show, everything keeps coming back around. Right before Tom & Shiv walk down the aisle. Shiv had to pause before saying I love you to Tom. Now season 4, Shiv, I don't love you. Pretty sad all of the double talk & manipulation this family does but they learned from the best. Logan always tells them what they want to hear & the kids never stop to think about what might he be manipulating me into for example. Logan wanted Shiv to quit the Democrat's Presidential Campaign. What did he do, he dangled the Succession role in her face. Then he manipulated her out of the role & made her believe she screwed it up.

considering the fact that some shit always goes down whenever there's a wedding in the show, i'm nervous for connor and willa's wedding

@robrick9361

2 жыл бұрын

Wylla is going to reveal she was interested in weddings from a very young age.

@tonybalony1811

2 жыл бұрын

@@robrick9361 😂😂😂

@ginao6810

Жыл бұрын

Lol that’s why I’m excited for Connor and Willa’s wedding. It’s going to be a glorious shitshow

@Black_pearl_adrift

Жыл бұрын

I just realised how true that is for a lot of dramatic media. Seems weddings and thanksgiving are the two times when shit goes the most wrong

@ginao6810

Жыл бұрын

@@Black_pearl_adrift it’s an excuse to bring a whole cast together. Then everyone can fight. I find it funny that Geri and Frank and Carl all get invited to Logan’s ex-wife’s wedding. I guess it’s just his entourage that travel where ever he goes, but they actually go to the wedding as guests.

Tom definitely had the best character arc this season, since he's been kicked around too many times by Shiv and her family. It'd be interesting to see how his character will evolve from here!

@philim9267

2 жыл бұрын

Very much agree! I'm especially interested in how Greg might play into that as well. Their partnership is kinda exciting and with Tom's potential rise in this "game", I suspect there's gonna be a little bit more character growth for Greg the egg also

@xtxpxhx

2 жыл бұрын

I really like how Greg's telling on Tom to Logan, backfired and did Logan pay attention to him more like this younger self. Also, we saw tom turning on the charm while doing his job as an actually competent businessman. So yeah, it's exciting, even though I think Shiv is going to take him down next season with a vengeance, he might end up being the new CEO

@samfilmkid

2 жыл бұрын

Its only a matter of time before he gets fucked over by Logan though. Just wait...

@duta6388

2 жыл бұрын

he's going to be Greg's lackie by the end of season 4 or 5

@quizzlybear

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but pelease let's not sit here and pretend Tom hasn't done worse to other humans. Tom is just as vile.

My favourite moment was Roman breaking down over not being able to think of ONE happy memory of Logan, with the closest being of when Connor took him fishing as a kid. Connor's perhaps the wisest of the siblings, in a way, since while they all fight to gain control of the family company, he, while being deluded, stays out of the whole scuffle.

@sonchik6324

2 жыл бұрын

It’s sad how he’s probably the closest thing they had to a father figure yet they treat him like shit

@jennterry6977

2 жыл бұрын

I think he really sees himself as their father.

@xtxpxhx

2 жыл бұрын

and that's actually a form of abuse, parentifying one of your children to assume all the responsibilities and burdens of child-rearing

@Nunofyabizzzzz

2 жыл бұрын

Right!! It’s so sad how in a later during Kendall’s asshole birthday party he made a huge fake mag cover about how Connor shit his pants during 1 of those same times he took them fishing.

@Nunofyabizzzzz

2 жыл бұрын

And toward the end Kendall is talking and calls himself the eldest. Right in front of Connor’s face

I actually disagree Tom would have been completely comfortable being “under” Shiv if she were willing to provide some sort of emotional stability as well as ensure that his career doesn’t regress

@lolaloves6574

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. For a while we have seen him slowly trust Shiv less and less because he does not believe her love is genuine.

@stevenoverlord

2 жыл бұрын

Yes he gave her many chances to bring him into the fold but she always pushed him further back. He did what he should've and had to

@brettsilva6808

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevenoverlord Both professionally, emotionally, and sexually. Shiv could've promised him even an executive position or some sort of professional stability and she wouldn't. Fuck all the love or no love thing, she did nothing on any level of even a platonic relationship.

@stevenoverlord

2 жыл бұрын

@@brettsilva6808 very true fellow silva 🙇‍♂️ happy new years health and wealth for you

@Malthizar

2 жыл бұрын

Tom has made it clear from the very beginning that he has secretly wanted the top spot. He married Shiv strictly because that was his "in". Go rewatch S1. He constantly, CONSTANTLY pushes for Shiv to push for him to take on leadership positions within the company. Put simply, Tom may not have betrayed Shiv in this instance if she wasn't such a terrible wife, but rest assured he'd have eventually betrayed her for the top spot.

Tom being a prick to anyone beneath him and a puppy to his superiors is how many people are like. Both the superiors and subordinates are unaware of the other side of that person... which is interesting

I understand why Tom did what he did. Shiv has treated him pretty abominably all through the series. But Tom is no hero, either. He's still the same guy who uses human beings as footstools.

@pigeon842

2 жыл бұрын

Tom said it himself in the first episode "you know i may look very fun, but the thing about me is that I'm a terrible, terrible prick"

@tiffanyhilgendorf3356

2 жыл бұрын

@@pigeon842 ohhh I love that- he said that to Gregg!

@marcuslosgreat4225

2 жыл бұрын

At that level everyone uses human beings as footstools

@samanthab1923

2 жыл бұрын

He also is a huge ass kiss. He knew who she was & loved what that brought with it. No matter what. Abuse & mockery from her brothers & Dad. To tell you the truth I don’t know why she was with him.

@coolersspaceship7964

2 жыл бұрын

@@samanthab1923 that may true that shivs status may have played a part in toms attraction to her, he undoubtedly loves his wife. Shiv loves him also but it is not the same type of love

I still believe the first (and only) time kendall managed to really threaten Logan is in the family therapy ep. Notice that in other times kendall (and the other Roy sibs) try to confront him, he's very dismissive, throwing abundant fuck offs and what not. When kendall points how much he resents his own kids because they were born into the wealth he himself didnt have, logan immediately jumps to his face (and possibly would hit him had Marcia not been there), and you can see it even in kendall's smirk: he got him. "You're a fucking nobody" says Logan afterwards, because he needs to reestablish the hierarchy kendall dared to shake. At the same time, I think that as the seasons progress, he starts to see how ruthless kendall can be, and as much as it makes him proud, his narcissism can't have another person threatening what is his. And that's precisely because he knows what kendall's capable of that he is consistently trying to beat him down, digging up his traumas so he can have his tenacity and loyalty, but never threatening him or his authority. To logan, a good kendall is a good German shepherd - it protects its owner, but ultimately sleeps outside

@nathanlee9080

Жыл бұрын

Perfectly said.

Just remember folks, “you can’t make a Tomlette without breaking a few Greggs”

Yeah, he always wins… except he lost. He lost his empire, his humanity, and in the end, he will lose his life, like everyone. And no one will succeed him. And the world will forget him. Thank god men are mortal.

@LuisSierra42

2 жыл бұрын

Well, you do not know the details of the deal he made, hi might not have lost his entire empire

@probablyalive.2665

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, the world (in the show) won't forget him. Anymore than ours will forget Trump.

@lostvarius

2 жыл бұрын

@@probablyalive.2665 Eh, eventually everyone gets forgotten. It just takes longer for some. Only people like logan think that they’re eternal.

@KSP30

2 жыл бұрын

I agree.

@Chris-rg6nm

2 жыл бұрын

He doesn't even value some long lasting legacy, he values power. I doubt he cares if the company goes bankrupt after he dies.

My favourite episode is the UTI episode. You really understand the chaos around when he is mentally absent. They were all staggering incompetent in that episode. Say what you can say about Logan. He is not where he is because of his incompetence.

@moustik31

2 жыл бұрын

And I would argue, that Logan "failed" to raise competent kids bec. he is a narcissist afraid of being surpassed by his own kids. Reminds of French King Louis XIV, whose political creation burned down 70y after his death due to his failure/refusal to teach/share his legacy. (Not that I'm complaining, better a republic than rotten royalty).

@LuisSierra42

2 жыл бұрын

I loved that episode as well, so amazing seeing everybody running around and improvising shit

@Chris-rg6nm

2 жыл бұрын

@@moustik31 Logan didn't fail, his kids failed. He didn't want kids that only succeeded because of him, he wants them to do it on their own.

@BigHenFor

2 жыл бұрын

@@moustik31 Nothing is meant to last for ever. No man's legacy ever will last forever, because he does not. Logan only is alive when he's wielding a knife. He loves it and hates it all at the same time, because he cannot step off the wheel, until he falls down dead. And you cannot make a silk purse out of a pig's ear. And his children are pig's ears. They don't have his will to live, nor the intelligence, or courage to do what is necessary to be him. The fact that his dream of wealth and power had the seeds of its own destruction within from its birth is the realisation that is keeping him alive and fighting to his lonely and bitter end. He was born and lived for nothing else his whole life. He did what he set out to do, and he knows it is ultimately meaningless, because there will be no endpoint for him. He lives for and is kept alive by the process, not the result. He cannot sit back and rest on his laurels. Winning was everything he lived for, and his children haven't got that killer instinct. They can't even find the guts to walk away from him. One might say: 'why should they?' That's if you believe in individual potential. And perhaps that's our wishful nature, our need to believe that we are unique, and even the mediocre have value. They even might, but not in the world Logan excels in. They would not last 5 minutes, because they don't want it enough to do what's necessary, and you can't teach that. You are either that kind of person or you are not.

@hootowllps

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t say AlLL of them were incompetent, especially when Shiv managed to save the company without him.

Shiv was not the one who tipped Gerri off about Tom's intention to hold a presser on Brightstar cruises. It's revealed at the RECNY ball to be Greg.

@jeesuk

2 жыл бұрын

And Greg successfully lied to Tom, making Tom think it was Shiv. Gerri gave Greg the nod of approval for ratting Tom out. The seeds of mistrust were planted prior to the S3 finale betrayal, but you can't say the RECNY ball incident was one of the events that led to it.

shiv is NOT pregnant. whatever looks like water that she's toasting, is the same drink as everyone else in the wide shot. also she tends to put her hands on her abdomen or fiddles with a part of her body a lot whenever she's distressed.

@TheSportzBilly

2 жыл бұрын

yeah but shes gotten fatter

@nykka3

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSportzBilly pandemic weight.

@edwarlock8244

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSportzBilly Fatter? As a man, I see her as thicker 😍🤤 I loved staring at Shiv this season

@TheSportzBilly

2 жыл бұрын

@@edwarlock8244 okay weirdo im just saying she gained a lot of weight actors dont do anything without purpose

@MJ-py7dm

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSportzBilly so you're a teenager 😅

20:51 at the start of the series, Tom is set up to be the show’s Carlo Rizzi, but by the end of season 3 it turns out he’s actually Michael Corleone (i.e. Shiv spotting Tom’s deception through the doorway is reminiscent of Kay catching a glimpse of Michael’s dealing through the crack in his office door at the end of The Godfather)

@jennifermcgee8621

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing.....one of the best scenes of the series

Tom and Greg were not born into this world. They fought and strategized for it. They've seen the other side of poverty or being lower middle class. That's what makes them a force. They'll do anything for this life. That's the kind of grit Logan yearns for. He wants someone who will keep the empire alive at ANY cost. Tom has been groomed for this and I would love to see him on the throne. He's been through hell.

@zerere_

Жыл бұрын

Greg is going to be much more well off, his family is rich. He did not grow up in lower middle class. Tom is questionable

"“Power resides where men believe it resides. It's a trick. A shadow on the wall" Varys.

@robrick9361

2 жыл бұрын

"I fucking win" - Logan Roy.

I have always known that there is no way for Logan to give his throne to either one of his children, so that ending was inevitable. Alas, I still root for each of these privileged stuck-up rich kids all the same LMAO

@10:48 the video states that Shiv is the one who rats out Tom to Gerri. It's actually Greg who goes to Gerri, which is revealed at the end of the gala when gerri tells greg "good work". a key element of shiv and tom's relationship is tom is an accessory, her emotional support dog. Shiv genuinely can't pay attention to his problems.

@jlall4467

2 жыл бұрын

Was this to do with the cruise thing?

I like to imagine Sucession ending with Logan on his hospital bed, finally succumbing to his decaying mind with no one at his side. His children finally having realized that there was nothing they could have done to win his approval, with his company being controlled by Matsson. Best ending!

@sunriseparrabellum5505

2 жыл бұрын

this would be a wonderfully poetic ending

@gabagoolpictures

2 жыл бұрын

Breaking bad aye

@causticgastrap2835

2 жыл бұрын

I bet Tom would be at his side lol

@robrick9361

2 жыл бұрын

@@causticgastrap2835 Yeah pulling the plug.

@causticgastrap2835

2 жыл бұрын

@@robrick9361 hopefully that would be super poetic

I don't believe that Tom has a strong desire to be the alpha in the relationship. It always seemed like he wanted to join powers and he would be okay being equally powerful. But I don't think he is okay with Shiv being superior to him. Maybe he might have been, if Shiv wasn't bullying him at all times anyway and making him feel like an insignificant, disposable joke of a man. I think Tom's response of a slap in the face was even a little late, considering three seasons of not being taken into account and underestimated by Shiv and others. But he continued proving his loyalty to Logan and gained a huge advantage against the kids, who are basically wondering in the negatives in terms of loyalty to Logan. Tom slowly and carefully became the favorite, and I honestly always saw that coming considering how he wasn't born rich similar to Logan; and knowing what he has to lose makes him a more alert and smarter player, and a better successor than any of the children.

Logan is genuinely a chilling character that Brian Cox plays all too well. The scene where he made his grandson taste his food just to make sure Kendall didn’t do anything to it was just so despicable. I’m sure he knew there wasn’t anything in it but my god just the fact he really was going to risk it made me so sick. But damn was it so perfectly executed, I mean this show is just wow.

There's a very interesting line in this video and it's that winning is whatever logan thinks it is. Because he suffers a small number of humilliating defeats, like the failed aquisition of pierce's company, the failed deal with josh aronson and having to sell in the end of season but ultimately he understands that winning is adapting to changing circumstances and understanding what people really want to be able to control them in the long game.

Shiv has no emotional intelligence. Really none of them do. Logan oddly does, but he uses it for evil lol.

@ProdbyLex849

2 жыл бұрын

FACTS

@AkSonya1010

2 жыл бұрын

They have all been emotionally been beaten and manipulated their entire life. Why do you think Shiv manipulates Tom so much? Because then she's not the victim. Ken is all over the place, he tries to manipulate people but then realizes it's not right. Roman sees it through his sexual disfunction. Someone needs to find him a dom to beat him sadly. Connor is just a wimp and scurries around joking with everyone & then poor me with a little insane sarcasm thrown. in.

@quizzlybear

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they are all narcissistic sociopaths. They can barely process any real emotion around them. Being vulnerable and emotional is seen as an inconvenience.

PLEASE DO A VIDEO ABOUT ROMAN!!! He’s hands down the most abused Roy kid, at least physically…

It wasn’t Shiv that told Jerry about the press conference ! It was Greg!

@IdonotwantaUtubename

2 жыл бұрын

@callmecatalyst I am to emotionally invested in this series…

@rociogalarza550

2 жыл бұрын

@@IdonotwantaUtubename We all are and you are 100% right.

@IdonotwantaUtubename

2 жыл бұрын

@@rociogalarza550 I also not sure what is worse, If she would have told Gerri to stop him from making a mistake or the fact that she truly doesn't care about Tom's job performance.

The season finale was so brilliant I watched it five times

I binged watched the entire 3 seasons in a week…. I missed out all these years…. Devastated that 4 will be the last. By far the best show on tv today

@Winter-Alpha-Omega

6 ай бұрын

I watched all 49 episodes in 13 days.

YES! Been waiting for more Succession videos. Thanks so much! This show is on its way to be one of the best shows ever. Brilliant video as always. This channel might be the best at TV analysis I’ve seen tbh.

I like how the only time Logan doesn't call his kids a Moron or undermines them is when Kendall did the superb twist...they show how Logan actually smiles after that... showing how Logan just said to him you lack being the killer and Ken does it...Goes for the kill...and he still is disappointed cuz they weren't able enough to overthrow him and he doesn't trust them to keep their own after him...

@anwarfahaf4784

2 жыл бұрын

Hoping Ken becomes the CEO cause he was the one who gave Matsson the idea of buying out Logan

@suthir_nadar

2 жыл бұрын

@@anwarfahaf4784 it's definitely not gonna be that simple, that's for sure 😂 it's Succession !

@anwarfahaf4784

2 жыл бұрын

@@suthir_nadar yah thas why i hope

When Tom describes having a lot of money feels like being a superhero. It reminds me of that line from “Goodfellas”. Being a wise guy was like being a movie star with muscle.

I love this! would also love one on the psychology of connor roy, esp. with his mother, period away from the family, etc.

Glad you are making videos about succession it's a brilliant show and it needs more recognition

Logan would fit in great with the VIPs in Squid Game

@philim9267

2 жыл бұрын

Scary thought, but absolutely.

@kuroroedamame

2 жыл бұрын

Ehh he already had it, i meaann his child are his own squid game no?

Yessssss! So glad you covered this.

As soon as The power paradigm shifts to Tom and she’s going to be on the outside she will definitely use a baby to get him to heel. She must …. I can’t wait to see it play out season 4

@f3042

2 жыл бұрын

A baby is going to be her best play. This is actually hilarious. The funny thing is, it didn’t have to be this way, but the Roy children do not know how to treat people well because…they weren’t raised to do so. And it may be too late by the time they realize it. This show could be great therapy for a number of people LOL

@Kirin2022

2 жыл бұрын

That would play into Logan's hands. He would prefer to pass empire on to blood. Logan would find some underhanded way to take custody of the child away from Shiv and give custody to Tom, his preferred protege who could then become the legitimate regent to Logan's (and Tom's) ultimate heir long after he has passed from the scene. Alternatively, look for Tom to find some way to manipulate or trick Shiv into giving up some of her eggs that he can then impregnate and have planted into a surrogate mother with Logan's backing.

@quizzlybear

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know. I think you guys are heavily underestimating Shiv. She has more up her sleeve than a fucking baby. She is after all, Logan Roy's daughter. I don't think Tom has it completely in the bag.

@anto4380delaguaridaa

Жыл бұрын

this is such a misogynistic take

Shakespeare would be proud. Rhea Jarrel summed it up best when she said to Logan, “I don’t know if you care about anything.” Which makes him the perfect killer.

I heard that David Bowie's manager used to rent limos for him and other luxuries before he was successful in the music industry to create the impression he was already famous. It worked. Fortunately for us, Bowie had the talent to back it up. Unfortunately, the technique works for unsavory types of people too.

Assuming Tom won’t Beta to his wife is some sexist bullshit that you guys always have to shoehorn in. While the boost in status from being with Shiv was a plus for him, you can see how much he loves Shiv all through the first season, and his heartbreak when she wants an open relationships. Healthy relationships have no alpha and beta… but are a team, and that’s all Tom really wanted

@fat025

2 жыл бұрын

This!

@komal146

2 жыл бұрын

bang on. Tom didnt show those signs. I can believe Ken would have those feelings of insecurity with Rava but not Tom. He was ready to play supportive husband but get something for that support. He did get wealth, but it was fickle and the emotional abuse did nothing but erode his support and love. Theres a difference between being a supportive so and a emotional punching bag. nothing alpha beta about that.

@alexo.883

2 жыл бұрын

the take...so woke

@AkSonya1010

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexo.883 the take isn't woke, Shivs manipulation is.

@quizzlybear

2 жыл бұрын

Well their relationship was never healthy on both ends tho. We all know why Shiv was a shit person in the relationship, anyone can see that. But you all forget that Tom probably wouldn't be with Shiv if she wasn't who she was. Tom is an opportunist and a social climber. It's clear he wants in on the family's power and prestige and although he loves Shiv, he definitely uses that marriage to get closer to power. And even uses Logan's near death to propose to Shiv as to not face any added disapproval. Their relationship is unhealthy because the power imbalance and how Shiv constantly uses it at her disposal knowing Tom can do little about it, because guess what? Tom will continue to suck up and be abused because he lusts for their power. If you are always asking "what's in it for me" in terms of power position at your job in a relationship, it was never going to be healthy.

Ive been waiting for this! Please do each character! 😍😍😍😍

It's so bizarre when parents are jealous of their children. I understand (or think I do) struggling for what you now have to share with your children who in turn seem to take it for granted, but actively resenting your offspring simply because they were given the leg-up and privilege you craved yourself growing up is just...wrong.

One part I really love about Succession is the use of non-verbal language, like Tom and Greg's handshake, and how Logan lays his hands on Ken's shoulders in mock comfort, which is heartbreakingly echoed in Roman leaning with his hands on Ken's shoulders in true support in the finale episode.

One mark of a great show is how a twist can be telegraphed the whole time but still shock you. All the clues are staring you in the face the entire time about Toms betrayal but it’s only when you look back after the fact that you notice what it was telling you. Really brilliant writing

Greg and Tom roadtrip movie🔥🔥🔥

Such a great analysis!

Please make a video about “rich families” in movies and tv.

9:55 I think that if Shiv truly loved Tom, he would be willing to be "beta to a powerful wife" whatever that means, probably nothing, but in this case I guess that he would be satisfied if she gave him reassurance of their "team" and that he would be important by her side, with her, not just as a leverage but to fulfil his potential in news section of company.

As someone that grew up fighting an abusive father and defending my other family members from him at every turn, it feels like he ALWAYS WINS the war when I've even won many battles against him. 😥 Winning would be me finally being free of him, but I have nowhere to go.

@angelaholmes8888

Жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry that you're going through that I know what you're going through sadly

Logan will die at the end of season 4 and the final season will be everyone scrambling to steal the reigns

The parallel to "Godfather" is not accurate: - Vito does not show narcissistic behavior, he genuinely loves all his children and does NOT manipulate them; furthermore, among his children there's genuine loving & caring for each-other. - Connie NEVER sets-up her husband; her husband turns against the entire family, INCLUDING the godfather; what happens with Shiv, Tom & Logan has a completely different dynamics... - Fredo is not clever enough, and that does lead to problems in part 2, but he never means to harm his brother or his family.

If anyone knows M&A and corporate governance rules and laws in the US, Logan ultimately did what he always could have done. If the finale is to be believed in full, this was always about Caroline and Logan making anything other was him fucking with their heads for three years. ***Also but too messy to go into every detail: Logan and Caroline's plan wouldn't stand in court. They effectively put themselves in a place where the three kids have grounds to sue their parents and the board of Waystar. A judge would put an injunction on the sale and they would be in litigation for years and hundreds of thousands if not millions in legal fees.

@miniro9159

2 жыл бұрын

My question is, pursuant to US Law, is it possible that a requirement to have an approval in place for change of control is included/governed under a prenup? Because at least from where I come from, I have never seen a prenup with such provision, usually it’s Shareholders Agreement or Bylaw/article of association that governs such right. So, if Logan wants to amend such provision, at least other shareholders must be involved in the discussion not just caroline.

@xtxpxhx

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe that's the next season's scenario?

@mc-ge2bt

2 жыл бұрын

@@miniro9159 you’re fully correct. The problem with the change or amendment of the divorce settlement (not divorce) is that original directive was already executed and possession of the shares and votes were issued. On that alone a judge would object to the sale of Waystar. Now of a judge let’s them proceed, the board would have to get a vote on the amendment of the Trust’s bylaws. Only then could there be a vote to sell Waystar. Keep in mind, the kids have grounds for a lawsuit against their parent and the board of Waystar and that lawsuit could devalue Waystar (see Viacom). So no, although on paper this is possible of all obstacles are cleared but there is no way the kids would (or should) allow that. *****And most of all, it could never happen as quickly as we’ve seen on the show and never.. NEVER with just one agreemnt (amend to the divorce). I also question if one of those attorneys in that suit was Logan’s personal attorney because no Waystar lawyer could draft that amendment to his divorce agreement or help negotiate any changes to his divorce. That is a conflict of interest.

@markinri1877

2 жыл бұрын

None of of that matters, it's a TV show, they do what they want, it doesn't have to be real or legal.

Oooh. Good take!

Love you guys ❤️!

God, these videos are fantastic

'In the fight for the throne, the kingdom burns.' By the time one of the kids succeeds to the CEO position, Waystar will be nothing but ashes. It will be so weak after taking this many losses, that CEO of Waystar won't mean shit. The entire family and their company will lose all power Logan ever accumulated Thats my theory.

This is game of thrones done right

great take!

09:50 - That’s a bit paranoid! There’s no evidence that Tom is uncomfortable with Shiv being the alpha in their relationship. He’s only ever wanted to collaborate with her. Until that act of betrayal in s3, Tom never moved against Shiv or expressed resentment outside of her constant neglect and abuse of him and their relationship. Maybe if Shiv made herself vulnerable to him then Tom would take advantage, but that’s not this version of Succession.

@SGNITTEZ

2 жыл бұрын

There is on scene where Shiv asks him to tell one reporter to say something he disagrees with. She insists and he replies with what would it look like me taking orders from you.

@spewter

2 жыл бұрын

@@SGNITTEZ I see your point. I’d read that scenario as one that confirms a sexist society because of how Tom, Shiv, and their imagined wider public conceive of gender roles. However, within the relationship, Tom isn’t exactly concerned with being the “alpha”. He merely wants Shiv to help him appear stronger (albeit in a retrograde sexist way). He’s negotiating (almost pleading) with Shiv when he raises that point, which should signal he’s not trying to dominate the relationship but merely wants to maintain an appearance of masculine strength to others.

@AkSonya1010

2 жыл бұрын

@@spewter I agree with how you see it. He knew Shiv was who she was, strong personality and all when he married her. I just don't think her realized how manipulative she was or how much she lied.

0:30 "power resides where people believe it resides"

Awesome breakdown

Wow!!! FANTASTIC ANALYSIS!!!

I just started Succession, and I love that we have fresh analyses for it!

@MENACE-km6bd

2 жыл бұрын

Don't watch this!!!! Trust me!!! You don't want it spoiled!!!

@matthewmccarty6508

2 жыл бұрын

Do not watch!!!!! (Edit) This video!!! The seasons just get better and better.

@soufian2733

2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy

@LuisSierra42

2 жыл бұрын

Greg is my favorite character

@moneymakerrain7584

2 жыл бұрын

Why the fuck are you watching this then

Great review here. I totally did not pick up Tom's story he told Greg and the poster catch is nice as well. An amazing show that always has more to reveal.

I started watching specifically to watch this video. And I was NOT disappointed. I was shocked so many people said the first season was slow I was hooked by the end of episode one and finished it in under a week. And WOW the end of the third season. I’m so happy I was able to predict it it seemed so obvious right after Kendall mentioned the Supermajority. The only thing I surprisingly didn’t catch was that Tom was the one who told him. But WOW the RUTHLESSNESS of Logan Roy (Brian Cox I mean just phenomenal) it’s just everything. EVERYTHING about this show is perfect.

Tom needed vengeance his wife was moving mad

If he always wins the wheel, let's break the wheel.

@Chris-rg6nm

2 жыл бұрын

That's what a child does

@Nunofyabizzzzz

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chris-rg6nm no that’s what a rebel does

@Chris-rg6nm

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nunofyabizzzzz A rebel learns to fly

Great analysis of Logan and family! His success and aptness for betrayal reminds me of super-lawyer Chuck McGill. May Logan meet a similar end!

It’s funny I started watching this show a few months ago because I was told it was similar to the tv show Arrested Development which I loved so much and so at first I was kind of comparing them but then I totally forgot about about the other show and saw this show as it’s own beautiful piece of art and now I love this show so much.

I did NOT see Shiv drinking water at first. Wow that’s…wow. That’s a lot.

@margotk538

2 жыл бұрын

I think that’s why she didn’t immediately flip and slap Tom when she knows he betrayed her…she’s planning her next move and what to do with the pregnancy and Tom.

It wasnt shiv that told gerri about tom's press conference it was greg

I mean, Tom ALSO betrayed Shiv because she: A) told him she wanted an open marriage on their wedding night! B) Seriously, and repeatedly, offered Tom up as a :logical decision" to save the company when Logan needed a "human sacrifice". C) Cheated on him. and D) Point-blank said to his face that she does not love him and knows that he will stay with her anyway. Not to say he's guiltless, of course, but his betrayal is much more than self-defense and power. I don't hate Shiv as much as everyone else online (it seems), as her defending Tom behind closed doors was very touching, and showed her true love for him (at the expense of her own brother), which makes the betrayal punch even harder -- but it's not like Tom acted solely out of selfish power-grabbing.

I just saw the S3 finale and was struck by the similarity between the scene where Shioban recognizes Tom's betrayal when she sees him in between the door frame with Logan and the final shot of the Godfather, when Kay learns about the true nature of Michael's succession to the throne of the family business. I always felt that there were some heavy Godfather vibes in Succession but never thought about the similarities between the siblings. So looking forward to the final season 4.

10:47 it’s an easy to miss detail cause it’s not straight up said, but Gregg was who tipped Gerri of to Tom’s potential press conference about cruises. Nonetheless Tom thinks it was Shiv. This was also Gregg’s coming out moment as a potential player.

@stevenoverlord

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Greg came on strong from the beginning! Despite just meeting ( remeeting) uncle Logan he stops him forcibly at Thanksgiving despite being brushed off by Logan, and makes his cause for getting rehired. Then he shoves himself in the car with Marcia and Logan and already starts strategizing for his grandfather's board seats. I only caught that upon rewatching the show!

@alicecaraballo3910

Жыл бұрын

@@stevenoverlord, he really was very brazen and completely oblivious to the fear that Logan instills in everyone. I was cringing at Greg's tenacity and mentally muzzling him! You could just hear Logan and Marcia's brains ticking away in that car hahaha!

The way that ad came in was genius 😂

Yessss finally🤘🏽

Kendal is smarter this season about strategy and how waystar should transform itself. This was only showed in one episode for like 10 secs.

@jimzimmer2048

2 жыл бұрын

but he has changed now

@robrick9361

2 жыл бұрын

What that lefty woke liberal BS. Kendall appeared competent cause that's all he knows how to do. All the kids only know how to appear competent. That's why the last epsidoe started with them playing monopoly.

@jimzimmer2048

2 жыл бұрын

@@robrick9361 I'm lost mate

@jobowisheshewasnomo4171

2 жыл бұрын

@@robrick9361 xD

@jobowisheshewasnomo4171

2 жыл бұрын

@@robrick9361 i don't completely disagree with what you said, but when a sentence starts off like that it tickles me.

Succession x The Take= perfection

Why is Tom so beautiful? Because he is the underdog with the most potential.. People can recognice this. It is a flick of the brain.

@johnricercato740

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting. The show’s creators deliberately make him more and more attractive in Season 3. We see more of his height - towering over everyone bar Greg - and his suits get sharper, culminating in the beautiful white linen example in the final. And he gradually gets more assertive starting perhaps with him telling Kendall that while KR is often fxxked, Logan never is. For once he is not equivocal and says exactly what he thinks, regardless of the possible consequences of annoying Kendall.

We can see the inexperience in Shiv in season 3. Episode 5 and 6 I believe. When Logan went through a short panic attack/ hibbie jibbies and she had to make the call but had to rely on everybody cuz she was in experience

The Godfather parallels are so obvious in hindsight lol awesome video 🙏

I agree which much of your reading here but am unsure if Tom is really bothered by Shiv being the "alpha." My sense is that Tom is accepting of that position so that he's taken care of, that he's considered, but Shiv blows it off (where you're correct, of course). Just a thought- otherwise a great reading of the series to this point! Also, the real love story is Tom and Greg.

Please do a video on Conner Roy

Do Succession Character studies please!!

"You're playing _toy fucking soldiers !!!_ " - Best descrption of the Roy kids

Does anyone know the name of the music in the background at about 11:30 ??

"Information, Greg. It's like a bottle of fine wine. You store it, you hoard it, you save it for a special occasion and then you smash someone's face with it."

Can you guy start listing the music in the videos. I must know!

im no editor but one small edit would be to reveal Tom first and then go back to Shiv saying "Who told him??" that way the suspense would remain as to why Tom is here but immediately we know why when Shiv says that.

@dumdumbringgumgum2940

2 жыл бұрын

As opposed to how they actually did it. Nothing won't that way either. But that way it gives audience some time, albeit short, to figure out it was Tom. It's super minor but would like to test.

This is a really good video 👍

If you want to make a tomlette you have to break a few Greegs!

Great video-For the love of god can there be an uncensored version? I’ll pay for it. The beeps are impossible.

@TheRockerX

2 жыл бұрын

Probably their patreon, if they have one.

@AkSonya1010

2 жыл бұрын

KZread now demonetizes videos 🤦🏻‍♀️

Most romantic line of the series: "I'd castrate you and marry you in a heartbeat 😚"

Love

As usual, awesome analysis. I've been binging this show for the past 3 weeks ad only finished it about an hour ago 😅 It'd be cool if you guys did a video dedicated to Roman. I remember that in a previous video about the season 2 finale, yall mentioned how the series would occasionally mention Roman metaphorically "f*cking his mom". Well that was amped to 1000 this season and I'm curious about your take on it

The editorial take on Tom “not being satisfied being the beta in a relationship” is brain dead lol.

Succession has been the best series on television since it dropped in 2018

Awesome recap of the Season. I agree with others that Season 4 will focus on Conner and Im not mad at that as long as Alexander Skarsgard comes back!

@alexsababa

2 жыл бұрын

Alexander Skarsgård will be back next seson and he will play a major role.

@AkSonya1010

2 жыл бұрын

Except Conner’s character is boring and his girlfriend is worse. Every time they come on the screen I roll my eyes. If they highlight them they need to give them some depth instead of having them whine all the time.

Can you guys do movie reviews? It would awesome. Just a recomend.