Brilliant video. We need more guys like you out here on KZread.

@diabeticnova2636

Жыл бұрын

Hi Scotty! 🤣😂

@AttackRaidan

Жыл бұрын

Hi Scotty!!

@thebakezone6778

Жыл бұрын

You COULD be one of those guys but you’re too busy making clickbait videos nowadays bro

@SteelOfLegend

Жыл бұрын

Clickbait Conspiracy Kilmer! Hey bud!

@pinkfloydscorpio

Жыл бұрын

Kilmer is trash.

Your comments / content are amazing. Thank you very much for your time & effort. I am brand new to Subaru. Just bought a 70,000 mile, 2018 Outback Limited (so many bells / whistles... almost need to go to a class to learn all that stuff). Anyway.. I think the car is amazing and in incredible condition. But.. the valve carrier cover on the "right" side (passenger side) has a very slow leak. The car has a warranty with the dealer so I just sent the email, pictures, and a link to your video. So far the leak is very light (no real drip, just a slightly darker, wet looking appearance). Can't have started that long ago. The dealer has been amazing up to this point so I hope that will continue. I'll update next week just to let others know what the experience can be like. MrSubaru.. I'm very happy to know you are out there for those of us new to the Boxer world.

That engine has probably gotten hot also which will kill the rtv. I have an 2016 Outback with 135k and there's a little seepage at best. I agree totally on PCV and oil changes also.

That’s interesting, I genuinely learned something about PCV systems I didn’t really think about before, thanks man!

I have had 3 Subarus in the last 15y...(2005 2.5L outback/ 2005 3.6L Eddie Bauer/ 2014 3.6L Outback).... only the eddie bauer made it past 100K. The 2014 3.6L started having oil consumption problems at 50K miles in 2020, *_WELL_* within the extended Subaru warranty in place and they just kept making me take more tests UNTIL the warranty expired. This car has FAILED 8/10 oil consumption tests over 3 years!! I have been driving an endless oil consumption test, checking in every 1200 miles to document this issue at the dealer for *_3 YEARS_* and Subaru Corporate's only response is to acknowledge the car NOW needs an engine replacement and that the extended warranty is expired.... Subaru is not a quality product anymore. They are riding on old reputation and snake attorneys that know enough about their garbage product to to cut losses by "settling" class action lawsuits at just the right loopholes that the customer can not see until they have fallen into it...If you are looking to buy a Subaru, don't... I regret working with these people and so do the old people I care for who have been negatively impacted by my car problems... [so much for the "Subaru Promise"]

I am so glad that I found your channel. I have a '18 Impreza 5 door. I am trying to be fanatical about maintenance but I didn't know that the PCV valve would need to be changed so often. 3,000 mile 0w20 synthetic oil and filter changes. Rotate the tires. Air and cabin filters. Valve cleaning with CRC GDI IVD Intake Valve cleaner every 3rd oil change. The whole 9 yards. I pulled mine out today at 45,000 miles and it just barely clicked when I shook it. I had a new one ready to go in. The whole job only took 20 minutes. When you first look down at the PCV valve you're wondering how you're ever going to get it out but it is pretty simple. Just remove the air intake (2 hose clamps and a clip) and set it to the side. Take a pair of 90° bend needle nose pliers and pull the PCV hose off. Then use a 19mm deep swivel socket with a long ratchet and it comes right out. Put some Permatex thread sealer on the PCV valve threads and put it back in. My old PCV valve is in the ultrasonic cleaner and hopefully I'll be able to reuse it.

Clear and concise info!! Thanks for summing these issue up! 👍

One thing that I seem to notice through different forums and from recent personal experience is timing issues. My 2019 inpreza recently gave me a check engine light. The code that came back was P0016. Took it to the shop, and the mechanic said it was the intake cam sprocket. He said that it's an issue F series engines are having now.

Thanks for the info. I only wish I knew all of this before we bought my wife her beloved 2015 Outback. The headgasket failed in Oct of '22 -- gratefully we were near home, had the repairs done etc...but yesterday when she went for an oil change/service was told there was oil leaking "on the right" with a recommendation of -- yup, new seals by the next oil change. I"d say the oil leak issue in boxer engines is far from resolved. Makes me appreciate my Hondas and (family) Toyotas

After a hg leak and a throwout bearing failure, i have left subaru forever. Love my Toyotas!

Thanks for sharing your knowledge and adventures!!!

Great video and always excellent!! Thank you sir. New PCV for us last year.....and a new one going into our folks

My wife’s Outback had a full reseal at 72,000 miles from a cam carrier seal failure. Subaru outdid themselves in making this more complicated than it needed to be and less reliable than it should be by using RTV instead of traditional rubber seals

@ucvrzifc8jxl7fdwvezfw2jguc7

3 ай бұрын

RTV is more reliable long term… lmao it’s just mechanics hate it bc it makes job harder. Gaskets wear out wayyyy faster. Idk where you got that from.

@ucvrzifc8jxl7fdwvezfw2jguc7

3 ай бұрын

The only problem with RTV is people saying it clogs oil tubes, but you would notice RTV in your oil filter before that, if you maintain it properly.

Burning/leaking oil seems to a problem for decades. Our 2014 consumes way too much oil, the mechanic said not worth fixing, drive it and add oil weekly. Turned off the the whole subaru thing. Best to lease and dump after 3 years.

Great informative video! The real life "props" were excellent for demoing.

Well, I will say I got 191,000 miles out of my 2013 Impreza before the head gasket, yep, the head gasket, began to leak. Some stop leak gave me a few thousand more miles to search for a new car but I did not buy another Subaru. To be honest I simply have no idea where the Subaru reputation for reliability comes from. At 44,000 miles I had to have the valve body or whatever controls the shift points in the CVT transmission replaced. At 90,000 miles I had both rear wheel bearings replaced and by that time the car was burning a quart of oil every 2000 miles. At 138,000 it was time for a new A/C compressor and a quart of oil every 1000 miles. By far the most I've ever spent on repairs to any car in my 33 years of driving and 17 vehicles all of one of which I kept for at least 150,000 miles. Hell, even my 1999 Land Rover Discovery went 160,000 with less than $1500 in repairs before I got paranoid about a major failure and sold it and there's very few experts who would recommend the LR over the Subaru for reliability. It's a one off example I'm aware but I've got 16 other examples that did better including 9 that went over 200,000 with less than $1000 in repairs each and a 2000 Nissan Sentra that went 226,000 without any repairs before I traded it. My mother tried an Outback and had the same oil burning issue and had to replace the rear wheel bearing before 70,000 miles as well. A good friend's son has a BRZ (not sure what year) and has this oil leak which is getting severe. Even the lady who sold me and my mom our cars and was a die hard Subaru fanatic no longer owns one because of the issues with them and she gets labor at cost as a perk of working for the dealer for 25 years!

@marcpikas2859

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment. I’d like a Forester but will stick with my old Toyota. I wonder if Subaru would ever consider going to a regular I4 engine instead of the boxer? Toyota could provide the engine to save on development cost

The Ej 253 sohc also has a cam carrier which is sealed with 3bond. Those also leak from the cam caps on the back side of the heads. The cam caps cover the parting line between the head and cam carrier. I think this isn't talked about much because the head gaskets usually fail first and whomever does the repair will reseal the cam carrier while doing the hg job.

The FB in my 2019 crosstrek sprung a leak at 25k, I have a repair order and the dealer had to pull the engine to fix the oil leak. I was inspecting my engine like I do every month and I found oil near the electric power steering pump on the passenger side.

A great informative video for Subaru owners. Even more reason to keep up with oil changes to keep our Subarus running for a long time.

Good informative video and a reminder to check your PCV valve before the engine starts to leak.

@jimamizzi1

Жыл бұрын

These days some pvc,s are just so hard to get to.

You are the best one guy that makes me think my car is a big mistake to have

I would recommend replacing the PCV valve hose on the FB25 engine when replacing the PCV valve. The hose is usually rock hard, has cracks, or both. Great video Robert.

@stevenjamesrash

Жыл бұрын

I just had my PCV valve changed today because of this video at 66K miles on my 2018 and they said my hose was all cracked up, so I went ahead and replaced it as well. I've totally added this to my every 30K maintenance. Well, since I'm at 66K I'll do it at 96K, 126K, etc. Which will give me a bit of a break since the 30K intervals are such big maintenances - I can spread some of the cost a bit.

@texasblaze1016

Жыл бұрын

I recommend not buying subaru. Problem solved..

@ozzierabbit587

Жыл бұрын

@@texasblaze1016 In that case you have to deal with the problems of whatever else is chosen instead, and no vehicle is without issues.

@texasblaze1016

Жыл бұрын

@ozzierabbit Nope no issues. I own a Honda accord. Ive never had any issues and i never had to replace anything before on this car or any of my other Hondas. Ive got 360,000 on the OD still runs fine. Older Hondas have reached 1,000,000 for good reason

@krystiankrucon2914

Жыл бұрын

@@texasblaze1016 the problem with Hondas is not mechanical, it’s the fact you’re stuck driving a honda.

I did a resealing job on my fb20. My mechanic recommended I changed a few extra things while I was in there like the valve seals thermostats and multiple o rings. Also, please use the correct coolant people.

This happened to turbo-charged engines also. EJ255, in Australia anyway. No services really helped it, some went out around 80-90 to 120km.

The Achilles heel for Subaru is the boxer engine itself. I wouldn’t take a Subaru if you gave it to me. The boxer engine design is the reason I opted for a Honda over a Subaru when I bought a new car ten years ago.

@ozzierabbit587

Жыл бұрын

I own a Subaru and a Honda, both purchased new, and I had a head gasket replacement done on the Honda after about 125k miles. The reason was unknown---it had nothing to do with oil change frequency or level, or coolant.

@iczer-2

10 күн бұрын

Porsche seem to have done all right. Subaru's designs are either flawed or in this case it almost seems like planned obsolescence (?). On the other hand, both the closed deck EJ22T and open deck EJ22 could go for a long time.

That engine looks pretty clean inside suggesting that the owner likely kept up with oil changes, however it was still leaking even though it was a supposedly low mileage engine.

@AJS86

Жыл бұрын

How do you spin a rod bearing if you're doing all that on a low mileage engine

@jimmy7144

Жыл бұрын

Obviously a failure due to the owner being lazy and ignoring servicing the straffometer and creedlesoaker filter

@MrSubaru1387

Жыл бұрын

Engine had just over 100k miles.

@AJS86

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisbradley3224 and yet they've had flat 4s in WRX rally cars for years without issue. Can't be that bad a design.

@theskyizblue2day431

9 ай бұрын

@@AJS86the engine was leaking and they did not top off the car’s oil. They then drove the car routinely low on oil. This is my best guess. You can do that in a Corolla and it will still go ten years. Not in a Subaru unfortunately

Multi layer steel head gaskets also fail, although factory oem versions typically take longer to fail and fail in a different wa y(they don't leak oil like single layer gaskets). late 90's 3 layer 2.5l cars would fail internally at 80-120k, 3 layer gaskets on the 10-12 Legacys/Outbacks are typically good to 120-140 before they fail internally (combustion gas in antifreeze , eventual overheating issues, same for Fel-pro aftermarket 3 layer gaskets are typically good for 40-50k hence the reason we call them fail-pros. Speaking from experience, 200 Subaru head gasket jobs a year for nearly ten years.

Great video. I have oil leak on my 2013 legacy. It leaks on the pipe so i do not see it on the ground it just burns up without smell on the cabin. Just have to top of 1qt per 5k miles. Oil is cheeper than repair.

Ha finally a video on my leak!!! But actually there is not a way to prevent this leak. I have replaced my oil every 3,000 miles since the car was brand new. No issues with the PCV.

Great video, also with a bad pcv there might be a slight oil consumption! On account that this kind of job cannot be done with the engine inside, I can't agree. ;) It can be done. But it's alot easier with the engine out. If I had such tools I would have done with the engine out. Working with engine in, you just have to be careful and very patient. Especially when taking off cam cariers )) Gravity )). Putting them back with some grease using it as glue will do the trick holding them rockers while installing plates back to its place. Where real pain starts, when the cleaning begins.

Great video, just went through this entire re-seal process on a 2018 Forester with the 2.5 after only 45k miles with all previous service done at the local dealer. At least it was under warranty, was only out $30 for a tire rotation, gotta love that low cost of ownership when this happens under warranty 😂

@abrams313

Жыл бұрын

Hi @garrettdraper3609. I just had my engine out job to reseal the gaskets for my wife's 2017 Forester. Wonder if this is a trend and it was only 65k for mileage. Hope not to do this again. Would appreciate input for @MrSubaru1387. Always did my oil changes, but the leakage was from the timing cover is where it was noticed first.

@cormaro13

Жыл бұрын

​​@@abrams313 yea it doesn't go like that lol you're going to need to re seal it again cause that's the brand you choose maybe get a mazda lol it's kinda dumb you thought it wasn't going to happen again , that's like saying you won't ever drive 😂😂

@rodbutler4054

Жыл бұрын

I like Subarus but would always recommend warranty because of engine history problems.

@gefreiterkurzmaul

9 ай бұрын

Except that you are not aware that re-sealing job at the dealership is never gonna be perfect as it was done at the factory.

@kb25j

3 ай бұрын

...until you factor in depreciation

Wait... they went back to separate head and cam carrier assemblies like the old EA series?!? Fascinating...

Wish I had known about the 2.5 normally aspirated head gasket failure issue. Engine out...very expensive. That, and a faulty engine computer, made my Volvo XC70 look downright bullet proof.

RTV lasts 350k miles on other makes for timing covers and cam carriers. I think there might be more to it, maybe a poor choice of RTV? Maybe the expansion/contraction of of boxer is different than an I4 or a V8, I don't know.

The new engine series in subaru's are better than the EJs, sure. But they still have concerns consumers are needing to be aware of that will lead to needing the engine pulled out to have it serviced. To be completely honest, the EJs were better at being solid after doing headgaskets once (the right way with MLS) and doing a timing belt kit every 100k. I miss my 02' obs in retrospect, but I'm not sure I'll ever want to go back after getting a toyota and not having to deal with any of this crap. You do the same type of intervals and you don't need to have your engine pulled out to eventually seal everything back up with rtv.

As someone who works for service at a Subaru dealer, Getting a whole bunch of lower oil pan leaking from the FA24 (Turbo)

Subaru has reccomended replacing the PCV valve every 30k miles for as long as I can remember, so it's definitely a good idea to replace the valve regularly 👍 Based on what I've seen in the shop at the Subaru store in our dealer group, re-seals on these engines are indeed very common...there's usually at least one engine out every time I stop by, usually at around the 100k mile mark. Some parts around the mating surface of the cam carrier (corners I think), the metal looks almost perfectly smooth, like there's no ability in the surface for the RTV to "sink into" if that makes sense, and it just squishes out the sides.

@kartboarder22g17

Жыл бұрын

I have never seen any mention in the owner's manual or at my dealer about changing the PCV valve on my Subaru Forester 2014. And mine's at 70,000 clearly on the original valve

@MrSubaru1387

Жыл бұрын

@@kartboarder22g17 it’s been 3yr/36k mile check/replace forever and always on Subaru engines.

@mikeoxlong3676

Жыл бұрын

​@@kartboarder22g17 Same. I check my owners manual and do my own maintenance and there was no mention of this.

@kartboarder22g17

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeoxlong3676 thanks Mike for backing me up I too just looked at my owner's manual and there is absolutely no mention of this. I have 72000 miles on my odometer and believe this has never been checked or replaced. I'll talk to my dealer about it when I go in next time. Yet I may not be going in till fall time. So might make a call to them. If they tell me yes I should have had that checked routinely I'll ask why it isn't in my maintenance and warranty manual and why they have never brought it to my attention.

@kartboarder22g17

Жыл бұрын

@@MrSubaru1387 I can send you the 2014 NA warranty and maintenance manual in PDF form if you would like just let me know where to send it.

I had a 2012 Impreza sport 2.0, never had head gasket issues even with lots of miles, and when I worked at Subaru there wasn’t a lot of head gasket issues with stuff built in the last 10 years or so if they were stock. However the big issue with the 2.0’s is an issue with piston rings allowing excessive oil burning, which I personally experienced and got a new engine block free from Subaru North America on a service bulletin (oil consumption test failed hard)

@joeweaver9913

Жыл бұрын

We have a 2012 Impreza and the 2.0 is going through about a quart every 400 miles at this point. My daughter primarily drives it, so at least she has learned how to correctly check the oil level and fill it.

@Jori.55

10 ай бұрын

Have they fixed the issue? I bought a 2024 2.0 Crosstrek

@joeweaver9913

10 ай бұрын

@@Jori.55 can't speak to the 2.0 but we have a 2022 Outback with the 2.5 and it doesn't burn oil between changes after 27k miles so far

@edwinrodriguez804

9 ай бұрын

@@Jori.55 The issue shouldn't affect a 2024.

Excellent explanation! Well, I'm definitely keeping my 2005 Forester XS. I have pulled the engine at 198,000 miles and replaced the head gaskets with SixStar gaskets and replaced the clutch plate and ancillary parts including all engine seals. Even if I have to replace the short block I will and keep the car. These new Subarus with all the electronic gizmos in them with functions I'd never use; I'll pass. Thanks for the continuing very informative videos!

@Braapcity

11 ай бұрын

Six star sucks. I had three engines come back right away. Engine passed deck warpage limits of 002 thou and heads got milled and new head bolts with a snap on torque wrench

Always enjoy your Subaru updates even though I have to watch with a remote in one hand and Maalox in the other lolo. At 72 years old I've been a long time owner of Subaru's. Presently a 2019 Forester and 2012 Impreza. I know you tell us the model engine with issues but for an old timer telling us also the actual Subaru model and year would also be helpful. Now that I said my peace, after watching this issue, I'm off to the pharmacy for a backup supply of Maalox lolo. Stay well and thanks for all your informative videos. Anthony

@samirhasan1597

Жыл бұрын

There are so many models and trim levels it's hard to list them all individually. The video applies to all F series engines. You can Google the engine type of your vehicle online. Almost everything discussed applies to ALL engines.

@AAtta-3286

Жыл бұрын

@@samirhasan1597 Can't argue with you, thanks for your comment

@fredrikmardenfalkhoppe494

Жыл бұрын

Have just bought a Subaru Outback 2019 with a 2.5 liter motor. Looks like it have an ej253 engine.. Was not able to understand from the video if it is a problem with this engine? Do I have to expect it to fail?? ☹️

Hi there. I enjoy occasionally watching your videos mainly because I've been in the market for a Subaru car. I still consider purchasing one in the future which is why I watch your channel to stay up to date on issues with these cars should I ever decide to get one. I wish to share feedback from my perspective which others may share. When you speak of these new findings, you often talk about the engine model but for the lay person, that doesn't mean much. Would be super helpful if in the beginning you mention along with the engine name/type the model and year of the car this issue affects, that way right away as we watch we know what car(s) you are talking about. I hope you find this feedback helpful.

@micyclesmotorbicycles2955

8 ай бұрын

Although this is months after the fact, I hope this response is helpful for you. “F” series engines as Mr Subaru puts it is just the generic term for all contemporary subaru 4 cylinders. They began to appear in 2012 and by 2015 the entire line up (besides the STI) came equipped with these engines. They are good engines, they just require a bit more maintenance than what some people coming from brands such as Honda or Toyota may be used to. And unfortunately being a flat 4 design sort of necessitates a lot of repairs being an “engine out” service. Although I can promise you that the labor cost to remove and reinstall a subaru engine is significantly less than most other vehicles

FB engines are an example of an engine that benefited from internal study of common failures learned with the EJ. the FB (and FA) are not necessarily problem free, but a definite step in the right direction.

the opening looks like a mint engine!

People are astounded when I tell them I clean my PCV and EGR out yearly, but then they go out and buy a new vehicle every few years because the old one was burning oil. My 2015 impreza is around 110k and it doesn't use any oil that I can tell.

I remember reading that the head gasket issue was fixed for the 09 model year lol, well after new gaskets from head to valve covers my ej253 is leak free at 209K miles.

The company I work for keeps about 24 cars for employee use. They tolerated the EJ head gasket repair because it was not so expensive. Now with the large expense of fixing the FB oil leak we have moved on to Toyota RAV4s. The Subaru dealer kept phoning because he knew our car replacement schedule. I understand he has not phoned lately and took the hint. Sorry Subaru, you did this to yourself.

Wonder if longevity could have been improved if they decided to go with an anaerobic sealant rather than standard rtv. Done enough VAG engines to say it probably wouldn't but could be interesting to test.

@Jack-qn4vt

Жыл бұрын

I was think the same thing On the volvo cam covers that hold down the cams, they use anaerobic sealant and ai never see them leak so it's an interesting idea

116k miles on my FB25 and just noticed this on mine 😢. Do my own Regular oil and coolant changes. will have to check my PCV system

It's not a joke. I have a 2018 Subaru outback 38000 miles. I've done had it in for a head gasket subaru pay for.

As of 6/26/2024 my sister 2019 Crosstrek 2.0 L just had a head gasket leak (oil and coolant mixing) @ 97k miles. Maintenance was properly done in the dealership, and she had a recent oil change a month after this gasket started to leak. Subaru dealership wanted $6500 to replace the gasket, but we decided to go to a known Subaru performance shop and got us a used 30k mile JDM engine. Coolant hoses and radiator were also replaced and it will only cost us $5500 for everything. It sad the this gasket issue still happens on the 2.0L engine used for the Crosstrek.

Bought my wife a Outback limited in 2010? It was her second Subaru. First head gasket went at 60k and second at 100k. Her first was a early 90’s model that left us stranded twice due to snapped timing belts. I don’t ever see us looking at much less buying a Subaru again. Bought her an Audi a few years ago and it has been flawless.

@denniss1211

Жыл бұрын

Glad there was no difference in cost.

At this point Subaru should just use Toyota inline 4 cylinder engines lol.

I don't know what model engine is in my 2022 Subaru Outback Wilderness, but you're making me wish I had bought another brand! 😀

@amdstrollo3074

5 ай бұрын

You have the FA24DIT, it's not related to the older EJ problem having engines at all. Headgaskets don't even belong in the same sentence with the FA/FB series engines. I would just do your oil changes every 5000 miles MAX, you have a turbo and like any car with a turbo, do not extend your oil change intervals or you'll be sorry.

RTV sealing of major engine components is one of my pet peeves for modern auto manufacturing!!! My daughter-in-law's VW turbo Beetle seems to be 50% RTV, with the resultant mess and points of failure! PCV system, head to block, head to cam carrier, and cam carrier to valve cover -- ALL RTV sealed. 3 water pumps in 95K miles since oil seeps out and down and kills the plastic bodied water pumps. Spent $80 more on the last pump to get an aftermarket metal bodied water pump. "Cheaping out" to save a few manufacturer's dollars, while adding service work for your dealers... Subies may not be perfect (our family has had 7), but the passionate fanbase makes them far easier to self-service compared to other brands!

I work at a small Subaru dealership we do many of these. Looking back in the history back to November 2022 we have done the following vehicles: 18 OB W/33k miles, 11 FOR W/130k, 19 IMPRZ W/97k, 18 IMPRZ 40K, 15 FOR 88K, 17 FOR 79k, 16 FOR 89K, 19 FOR 51K, 17 LEG 68K, 13 IMPRZ 76k, 17 LEG 90K. The 19 Impreza with 97k is an employee, bought new, and has done oil changes here every 6k and PCV every 30k.

@d.knudsen4135

4 ай бұрын

Pretty darn sad yet you see a gazillion of them on the road and all of the owners seem to be gaga over them. I guess I'm a little bitter as I just bought a 2013 Outback for my granddaughter and found the radiator to be full of oil. 😞

This is exactly my problem with my 2012 Impreza base model with 350,000 kms, although it started leaking back at 170,000 when I bought it used. I've been topping off the oil, which is about 1 L every 5000 km's, but the unbearable part is when it drips on the exhaust and the burning oil comes into the cabin and stinks. My PCV valve has always been in good shape when checked but who knows about the previous owner. I have an outstanding recall for the balce springs which means the motor has to come out, and will ask them to reseal the cam box as part of that job.

@998RC

Жыл бұрын

I'm also starting to hear a rattling noise on cold startup, and from another video it aligns with the symptoms of a bad chain tensioner. So I'll be getting them to replace those as well. Basically the front cover and the cam carriers will be removed. Anything else I should get done while they're in there and have all of that apart at my mileage?

@theskyizblue2day431

9 ай бұрын

@@998RChow much this cost you?

Are there no options for Subaru to use a better gasket in the first place? I'm sure anyone would pay a couple hundred for better materials and the security of dodging engine-out repairs. I had the head gaskets on my EJ replaced with MLS gaskets when I did the timing belt replacement. They were just starting to sweat. Dodged ever having a head gasket issue.

So the factory fix could be have been installing the Turbo head gasket on all 2.5L engines. The cost differential is negligible but Subaru said No, lets keep using the gasket that fails.

@TheRetarp

Жыл бұрын

The vast majority last through the warranty period and that's all any carmaker cares about.

@zzoinks

11 ай бұрын

I don't think anybody is going to be buying a Subaru a second time after that happens. Or maybe they will

Can I just say that I'm tired of owning two Subies, and I can't wait to get rid of them? None of my Toyotas or Hondas ever had any issues at all, and I don't even watch Scotty Kilmer to have it drummed into my brain.

@consciousawakening4799

Жыл бұрын

I’m thinking of a late model forester for my mom. You don’t recommend?

@cormaro13

Жыл бұрын

​@@consciousawakening4799 nope cause it's a piece of junk on wheels, waiting to take your money , go get a mazda

@maubunky1

Жыл бұрын

@@consciousawakening4799 The new CVT transmission doesn't shift as smoothly as the old, and I don't like having to fiddle with all the performance buttons every time I start up the car to get maximum performance. There are lots of highly annoying safety beeping and "car AI robot slams on your car's braking for no valid reason" issues. The AWD snow handling is the same good AWD as the old, but I honestly think I could get comparable snow handling performance out of any 4WD Toyota and not have nearly as many maintenance headaches as I've had with both my 2006 Turbo and 2018 Turbo Forester. Even the 2018 was a lemon straight out of the factory due to poor QC and had to have 5 visits to the dealer to fix it with only 5 miles on the odometer with no apology from Subaru. Can't wait to get rid of these things, I just don't have the energy to keep either doing the maintenance myself or taking to the independent shop. All the Toyotas and Hondas I've had were not so melodramatic to own, just a tune up at 100K and no other major issues or a barrage of little pesky issues like I've seen in Subaru. Subarus need much more TLC to keep them on the road and frankly I'm exhausted dealing with it.

@PeterHernandez-lg2eh

Жыл бұрын

Subaru no bueno no go

I've got this exact issue on my 2015 Outback. Dealer wanted $2300 to fix. I'll live with the small leak as long as possible.

@coveyking

Жыл бұрын

i think there may be some additives you can look at... obviosuly you can seal externally...

@cormaro13

Жыл бұрын

And then engine goes boom 😂😂 enjoy your piece of crap , should've went mazda

Even though there’s another place it can leak, is having a cam carrier a better design? You explain things very well, thanks for the video

Is this RTV the same material that some have found floating loose in the oil pan as a leftover from the original manufacturing process?

I’m hoping Toyota buying part of Subaru helps them get their act together a little. Oil leaks/burning oil on any car in 2023 is crazy to me. My AC compressor just went out at 86k miles, so I called Subaru and asked for help covering the cost ($1400). I’ve had Honda, GM, and even Chrysler and have never had an issue with AC going out! Love the car, but on the fence about buying another, especially if I have any more issues.

@MrSubaru1387

Жыл бұрын

Subarus aren’t thinly only new cars burning oil. Its a common issue across the majority of manufacturers right now.

@thomas735

Жыл бұрын

@@MrSubaru1387 I know that as boxer engines age they are more susceptible to it and I agree that it does happen with other brands, it’s just frustrating to deal with obviously. Neither of our cars have issues luckily. I’ve never done PCV valves but I do change the oil religiously every 4-5k miles (we do a lot of short trips).

@niuhuskieguy

Жыл бұрын

Every Ford, GM, Chrysler my family had growing up had ac issues within 4-5 years

@thomas735

Жыл бұрын

@@niuhuskieguy bad luck man, my parents always had domestic brands and never had any problems with them. A couple fords had transmission issues but the GMs and Chryslers we very reliable.

@headreddedstepchild6177

Жыл бұрын

I had my a/c compressor replaced in my 22 WRX at under 3000 miles, and its needing replaced again, after less than 2000 additional miles. All under warranty of course, but it's still frustrating.

I have a 2013 Subaru cross track that loses oil. Do you think it could be coming from the piston rings or is that an issue?

How can Subaru procaim to be reliable in the face of Honda and other great manufacturers? I guess those advertising dollars were well spent since a large portion of the public is brain washed to believe this...

@DominicSovereign

Ай бұрын

From personal experience owning mostly 09 and previous Subarus everything but the N.A. 2.5’s are reliable. The new ones, especially with the cvt, are dookie and shouldn’t be advertised as reliable.

Would this be covered under the warranty? Thanks for making these videos. New follower!

the factory should have used anaerobic sealant (like Permatex 51845 or Loctite 518) instead of RTV. when you have 2 machined surfaces anaerobic sealant is way better. RTV should only be used on tins like oil pans. if subaru had used anaerobic it would have also prevented much of the BRZ oil pump screen debacle. Anaerobic only cures when it is clamped between 2 machined surfaces so if you use too much it just mixes into the oil and gets drained out next oil change instead of clogging stuff up..

@EyeMWing

Жыл бұрын

An anaerobic sealant wouldn't have worked on the timing cover - the timing cover is the full width of the engine, and mates with the front surfaces of both cam carriers, both heads, and both halves of the block, plus at several points at an offset depth in between. Getting all those parts and surfaces machined and aligned together within the tolerance where an anaerobic sealant would work just isn't going to happen - and thats not even considering flex in the cover itself. So there needs to be RTV on the timing cover, and it's going to go bad with age - so you may as well use the same material for the cam carrier seal to reduce service confusion and avoid a whole BOM component.

@volks-jager

Жыл бұрын

@@EyeMWing ive resealed several subaru timing covers with Anaerobic - it works perfectly. ive used it for years on everything with machined surfaces including subaru engine block halves, cam carriers, oil pumps etc . ive never had a leak and there is zero risk of using too much and clogging oil passages. i learned about it way back working at a place that rebuilt transfer cases and that is all they used on the case halves. the stuff is way better than RTV. only drawback is it cant be used in things with stamped surfaces like steel oil pans.

@EyeMWing

Жыл бұрын

@@volks-jager Pulled the specs on 518 and it's good to almost 10 thou, so I guess it's possible. I've got one apart that I've been procrastinating on putting back together because I absolutely do not feel like screwing around with the RTV caulk gun, so I might give it a shot.

@volks-jager

Жыл бұрын

@@EyeMWing give it a shot. i was skeptical when i 1st saw it being used on the transfer cases, but now i love the stuff. i get the 51845 in a caulk tube, but you can get it or the 518 in squeeze tube as well. it is great in confined spaces to, you can smear a bunch on without worry of using too much and it getting inside the engine. i did an FB25 timing cover in the car with it. (car got hit and oil sensor on cover got pushed in and cracked cover - body shop got the car fixed and then discovered the oil leak). it would have been a PITA with RTV, but with the anaerobic is was a piece of cake. also the excess that squeezes out doesnt dry so can be wiped off with a rag for a nice clean look.

@volks-jager

Жыл бұрын

@@hyojoonus you had an headgasket fail on an FB?(wasnt this video saying they are not a issue anymore) - i havent seen an HG failure yet. (but plenty of oil burners and rods through blocks...). i honestly like the EJs better. the headgaskets aside they where alot easier to work on than the FBs.

in my 2005 STI, head gaskety failed 8 times, before 100k miles, but i also had it tuned 😂

I’ve done a few head gasket jobs on the 3.0 Tribeca engine (the early ones that required 93 octane gas).

@cr2158

Жыл бұрын

Usually those engines I thought didn't have that problem

@007conspiracytheory

Жыл бұрын

​@C R that's what I thought too . I got a limited 08 3.0r legacy

Had to fix this on my mother's XV but it is what it is

That's just part of the corrosion protection package.

@arthurfernandes2402

Жыл бұрын

😂

All the EJ's had external oil leaks from the head gaskets, even the turbo version.

@Larrydudeman

Жыл бұрын

The turbo versions didn’t. The ej20 HG probs are rare

Great vid! Noted, just need to see how to remove the timing chain cover...

I somehow love my EZ30D even more now. I know how labor intensive a timing chain is so I can only imagine these new engines.

@Kacpa2

Жыл бұрын

Its the same really. FB/FA is heavily derived from EZ30.

@NCGNTO202

Жыл бұрын

I hope I never have to get to the "open the timing chain cover" repair.

@Kacpa2

Жыл бұрын

@@NCGNTO202 Many engines nowadays have timimg chains and all of them have similar covers. It should be serviced tho not like timing belt. If timing belt needs replacememt every 80-90k miles then timing chain would be 3-4 times that milage if kept well(frequent oil changes ie annually and not on this longlife bs intervals, pcv changes each 2 years) so it woul bw at 250-320k miles, if you keep it really well and are mostly gentle with it, then it might be perfectly fine even at thst milage, also timing chains dont just snap(like belt might), but it might stretch and start rattling as a warning signs. It's worthwhile to do valve adjustment and partial rebuild if its at very high milage, you will have done all bigger things at once and have pretty mmuch a brand "new" engine and have another 400-500k miles or more out of that motor at healthy condition.

@Braapcity

11 ай бұрын

Pffft. These timing chains are easy. Try a Chevy Traverse and get back to me, or an audi 4.2

This is my concern with my new Toyota GR 86, which is in reality, a Subaru BRZ. This cheesy crap of using RTV. I wish Toyota still made their own sports cars. They actually use GASKETS, and high quality ones. You don’t have these kinds of issues. There are some pre amazing things about the boxer engine, but this is just cost cutting, at the cost to the owner of thousands down the line

My 2009 Subaru imprea sport with the 2.5i NA still has the original head gasket

Can you do a video of the TCV? A lot of new forester owners have had to get them replaced. Subaru does not want to issue a recall but seems every tcv fails after 20k miles

Exactly whats happening with the Forester I bought…. 68T km mileage but helluva full of leaks…. Valve cover gaskets leaks,timing chain cover leaks, pcv leaks, water line leaks…. Axle rods leaks…. My pocket is now full of leaks….. but runs great….. just that it smells of burnt oil after running due to all of the leaks….

@entropy3301

13 күн бұрын

‘23 Forester Wilderness here with 20,000 miles. The mechanic noticed a cam carrier leak when I took it in for an oil change. The dealership did a reseal on the engine and also found a leaking water pump. It’s what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

Do you think replacing the PCV valve on the FA24D engines will be a good idea? (I have a 2023 GR86 for reference) I plan on owning it for a long time so I want to make sure it stays healthy

@MrSubaru1387

Жыл бұрын

3yr/36k mile check/replace.

I have a 2016 WRX FA20DIT and this is my first Subaru. Bought it used in Feb 2022 and on my birthday in April it blew a driver side head gasket. I actually built a new FA20DIT engine starting with new OEM short block. I swapped the OEM rods and pistons out for some forged internals. Manley Tuffbeam H rods and CP pistons. ACL bearings. I sent the heads out for pressure test and decked by .00045 of an inch. I also had to replace the pax side cam carrier. I used the permatex RTV grey. I have to say doing my first ever engine build on a boxer engine, the FA platform is freaking awesome! I now know this engine inside and out and am preparing to build another one because my old block and crank is still good.. people trash on these engines but I love it.. and I'm direct port meth injected 😂

@cormaro13

Жыл бұрын

So you blew up your trash and wanted to fix it 😂😂 let's hope you it can last before another head gasket issue lol

I'll keep an eye out for this issue. Thanks. I curious, tho... similar to valve cover leaks... I can just keep it topped off till I have time to deal with it? My ole forester always had clean oil, LOL.

I work in the parts department at a Subaru dealer and we have done numerous engine is 18+up cars and they all seem to be turbo cars

I've had this exact issue happen on my 2022 Ob 2.5, discovered at 8k miles, located on the top side driver's side. It's a very small weep. I reluctantly took it to dealership, they denied being able to even find problem. I may go back a second time here soon. I hate dealerships but I know technically it should be covered under the warranty as I'm only at 18,500 miles now, but knowing the complexity of the repair and the need to break so many other seals gives me pause. Luckily I have the guidance of my single trusted mechanic for my last 5 vehicles and his advice because the weep is very slow and the complexity of the repair is to simply monitor. On original 0w20 it seemed to lose about 1 quart every 5k miles, now that I've stepped up to 5w30 seems slightly less. Other advice is if the weep doesn't increase then just wait until a second or larger repair that requires engine teardown.

@remogaggi82

Жыл бұрын

I'd take it to dealer maybe another one if you don't like the first under warranty.

@conchshell116

Жыл бұрын

@@remogaggi82 where I am is a unique situation most won't deal with, I live in Hawaii on an island and there's the one dealership. And they know it. That's why they are notorious for bad service. Also many wouldnt know this but SOA absolutely does not offer extended warranties here. Our state is ineligible.

@conchshell116

Жыл бұрын

@@remogaggi82pretty much planning to sell the car in 24 months as soon as paid off, then try something else. Lived the Subaru experience, it's a fun car to drive otherwise but not too attached to it either

@remogaggi82

Жыл бұрын

@@conchshell116 extended warranty? It should be within normal warranty. Maybe you are saying about holding car long term. I'd get corporate involved tell them dealer won't fix oil leak and it's unacceptable

Add the VTC sprocket to common issues on FA20 engines too, pricy fix.

65K 17' Impreza. Noticed I was leaking from the smell :( Guess I'll jump on that PCV replacement ASAP, can't remember if the dealer replaced with the recall...or when that was...might as well replace for the low cost. try to fight off further seal leaking! I'm only leaking on the driver's side

I need to bring my car to you. I’m not kidding. I need to have my Subaru properly set and serviced. I will literally drive to your garage from Maine.

Have had 5 Subarus... No issues at all. Old ones needed new timing belt at 70k.

Turbo models just blow up any number of ways before the headgasket fails, but if it they _don't_ shoot rods out of it before 130K, the head gaskets _will_ blow.

Great I just got a 2024 outback limited with 7 miles on Sunday Dec 17 2023 now I feel like shit

Unfortunately for the turbo versions, they dodged the head gasket issue and got the broken ring lands instead.

@damiansmith5322

Жыл бұрын

Yup mine happened out if nowhere at 101k....looking at a ej20x swap

How is the fb25d engine? My wife has a 21 forester sport. She plans to keep it longterm and just wanted to know about the longevity of the engine and the cvt transmission in it

Hey man I’ve got a question my 05 legacy gt has a great deal of blow by and I’m looking to get a new shortblock. Would it be worth it to get a sti type ra shortblock at around 2300$ or should I try to find a remanned ej255 or 257?

Thanks for letting me know! I think he likes to hear himself talk talk talk.

Wait what’s the connection between cleaning corrosion on the battery terminals and head gasket failure?

My head gasket blew on my 2016 outback fb25. Is in the shop at the moment $3695 quote for complete reseal!!!!

@cormaro13

Жыл бұрын

I bet you like that don't you 😂 you're telling me when you bought that piece of shit, you didn't research it problems ?? Wow

What was the cause of spun rod bearing in this case? Bad maintenance, since it's already leaking at the carrier/head join too?

2011 Forester. 112,000 miles. No problems ever. Best car i've ever owned.

@determineddad7935

Жыл бұрын

Same car. It's great. What oil and filter do you use?

It's Scotty kilmer approved

Industrial sealants don't even last 10 years. I'm a machine tool tech. I can promise the machines that made those engine parts have oil mats all over the places to control leaks. Its up to the operator to verify fluid levels. I wonder how many oil issues would be prevented just checking the oil once a month...

I had an 08 Forester that burned oil and leaked oil from the heads and terrible on gas. It was all I could do to get it over 300,000 kilometres. My take away, not all Japanese are created equally. Honda or Toyota.