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@Neapoleone-Buonaparte

2 жыл бұрын

Why did Halder allow the 6th Army to be the only German Army on the Eastern Front not to receive replacements for its losses during Operation Fall Blau (62,000 men short)?

Not specific to this video, but shout out to Bernhard for being one of the best interviewers on KZread for one simple reason: you let the interviewee speak. I can't count how many otherwise informative videos I have to abandon because the interviewer cannot resist interrupting. Often the interviewer has good intentions and is just trying to show how engaged he is; other times he wants to demonstrate he knows more than the interviewee. Either way, the conversation is derailed and the interviewee isn't allowed to complete their thoughts. EDIT: For instance, I love Lindybeige's solo content. But unless you're a masochist, I can't recommend anything where he appears onscreen with someone else...

@slartybartfarst55

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. I also enjoy how relaxed the conversation is.

@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized

2 жыл бұрын

thank you! Well, there is one infamous video with Jens, where I interrupt him a lot of times, but yeah, it is a while back.

@stankgangsta4105

2 жыл бұрын

But he didn't ask him if he did Crack. At best he could stand to improve

@lukabennett5802

2 жыл бұрын

On the nose! There are many youtubers out there who can`t stop interrupting (why do you ask somebody, if you wanna give the answer yourself anyway?). Maybe the interviewed person is wrong...or boring...I will never know, because you can`t shut up! :D (Maybe it`s just bad interview planing). Redlettermedia went this way...they used to have a lot of guests, but they almost never gave them room - and now it`s just the three guys talking (again, like in the beginning). And I never want to watch a video with TIK as the interviewer - he has some interesting opinions on stuff, but he comes off like a c**t... ;)

@lukabennett5802

2 жыл бұрын

@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized And it is still with me. Not only did I think: how rude! But also: he`s going down this road now, isn`t he? But I was happy to learn that your education got the better of you - for the benefit of your viewers. Besides your work as a historian, Charles Dexter Ward is totally right: the interviews are a very interesting part of your channel and you have a pleasant way of conducting them, so keep on soldiering. ;)

An aspect of the film "Stalingrad" that is often overlooked is what is said at their parade in the beginning. Their battalion is actually being broken up, so that each company will form a core(or cadre) for new units. This was done so much in the Wehrmacht with all kinds of units. Regiments would lose 2 experienced battalions that would make new units, and then the old regiment would get an influx of new troops. This way battle experience was spread around, and even new units would have a core of experienced soldiers and leaders.

@jasontrauger8515

2 жыл бұрын

He said a German Stalingrad movie. The only one that I see are Russian movies. Is IMDB and the Googles failing me?

@askelonvonwinterfylleth2479

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasontrauger8515 Stalingrad from 1993

I thought it was cool how the Soviet ROK 3 flamethrower was built to look like a rifle up front. It might not mean anything after the first burst of flame, but it's an interesting attempt to hide the fact to the last moment, if possible

@paulshadow5727

2 жыл бұрын

Flamethrowers were favourite targets on all sides, they were hated, they were easy to spot and even easier to light on fire. But, I don't know how effective this camouflage will be when the person is carrying a clearly visible fuel tank on his back.

@hazzardalsohazzard2624

2 жыл бұрын

It might also scare the enemy into mistaking a rifle for a flamethrower when under pressure.

@weakest17yrold

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulshadow5727 well how often would a person see that. These people were sitting playing games of cat and mouse.

@paulshadow5727

2 жыл бұрын

@@weakest17yrold I guess that is true, it is impossible to spot from the front but any flanking troops or snipers can easily spot it.

@weakest17yrold

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulshadow5727 true, I could imagine the camo would be better than nothing though

As a retired combat engineer we changed our doctrine in the mid 1990s to say we fight as engineers not as infantry. As combat engineers we do not have the specialized equipment to call in artillery effectively (fire support teams), we do not have mortars we do not have the command and control expertise to fight effectively on the offense. I can imagine how they would have taken extreme casualties on offensive actions. Defense we could put in mines.

@theprodigy6713

2 жыл бұрын

German combat engineers had a higher casualty rate than regular infantry.

@bruhbruh13968

2 жыл бұрын

IMO I would want y'all on deffensive battles to build forts and teaches and such, and mine the shit out of the area

I'm from Germany and my grandfather was drafted and sent to the Eastern Front at age 17. He was captured by the russians and came back home in 1955. He was a total psycho after that, always carrying a gun and 2 knives and would lose his shit over everything and nothing. Thank God, those days are over now.

@jeremyj5932

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear. You def did not want to be captured by the Russians back then. But he survived at least.

@RedGnoll

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremyj5932 My first thought was you definitely don't want to be drafted into the Third Reich's army at the age of 17 but hey, whatever floats your boat... My own (french) grandfather was a just a kid back then, but after the war he was drafted and sent to fight our colonial wars in Algeria and so on, forced to witness and inflict upon others what the Militia and Gestapo did to his own parents during the occupation. Came back guilt ridden and broken, still can't talk about it without bursting into tears... Being a teenager at war isn't fun, period.

@noanyabizniz4333

2 жыл бұрын

So he became a Trump supporter?

@davidcarroll9095

2 жыл бұрын

@@noanyabizniz4333 Obviously not a socialist as he has remorse for his crimes against humanity.

@miroslavdockal9468

2 жыл бұрын

@@noanyabizniz4333 , dont be .....not looking on right or left person. "Bidens Admistration" if i can call it that way, is far more left and agressive in any way how can i look at them, as Trump somewhat calling system of balance.....

I kept being distracted by the L24 75mm gun mounted on the wall. I am guessing in the context of the sturmpioniere it was from a Stummel.

@blank557

2 жыл бұрын

Naw, that was part of their equipment they carried in combat. Just kidding.

@JohnJameson18y

2 жыл бұрын

A Sd.Kfz. with a 75mm? I don't think that they were introduced yet in Stalingrad.

@maxkronader5225

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnJameson18y The sdkfz 251 "Stummel" variant were seen on the eastern front in limited early production numbers by June of 1942, although they certainly would not have been common until the following year, after Stalingrad. The L24 75mm could have come from an early StuG III, but that's not a vehicle generally associated with the sturmpionere.

I'm getting Company of Heroes 2 Flashbacks from that title on multiple levels.

@cplson2706

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a pioneer, not a grenadier...

@smyrnamarauder1328

2 жыл бұрын

ANGRIFF,FEUR!

@ohmyshou1der

2 жыл бұрын

Move to Capture, Move to Capture!

@juanzulu1318

2 жыл бұрын

Me too😀👍

@michimatsch5862

2 жыл бұрын

Tch, SDII is where it‘s at.

TIK and Anton Jolly's channel show that the 6th Army was fighting against very strong resistance all the way to Stalingrad, so the troops were already depleted before even entering the city. Furthermore, they weren't getting adequate replacements either as OKW had set troop allocations of manpower per Army. Finally, the Germans had to demotorize the entire Wehrmacht due to fuel shortages. The rail lines were woefully inadequate and there were very few hard surfaced roads in the USSR.

@looinrims

2 жыл бұрын

Fuel shortages? No? It was because of the massive losses in vehicles

@alanmcbride6658

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed the Germans had a severe fuel shortage.

@JaesWasTaken

2 жыл бұрын

@@looinrims The entire point of Invading the Soviet Union outside of destroying Judeo-Bolshevism in the eyes of the Nazis was to seize the resource rich (food and oil) territories of the USSR to expand Lebensraum. Fuel shortages was a constant problem throughout the Axis push into the USSR and constantly forced stoppages and demotorizing certain battalions/divisions was an attempt to alleviate these stoppages, but losses was also a major contributing factor. By 1942 with Operation Fall Blau, the primary objective was to seize the oil fields in the Caucasus to mitigate the shortages and try to cut off fuel supplies to the Soviet Union's war effort. They failed obviously. Would highly recommend checking out TIK's channel for more in depth analysis of the Axis problems with fuel shortages as he does a fantastic job at breaking it down.

@looinrims

2 жыл бұрын

@@JaesWasTaken yeah but that’s not why the army was demotorized, you can’t be motorized when everything is destroyed

@Hanley209

2 жыл бұрын

@@looinrims go look up the numbers of men on the Eastern front for the wehrmacht, and then look up the production numbers for the most common panzers fielded by them. You'll be surprised if you think the "best in 41, beginning to wean 42, last gasp 43, nothing in 44" is accurate. Spoiler:German production peaked in 44, manpower peaked in 43. But Oil. Now that...

I think this is one of those situations where a German term and an English term are similar but not the same.

My grandfather was an assault engineer attached to Rommel's Panzer units. After they retreated from Africa, he was sent to Stalingrad. So the movie is correct. Our family received his last letter around Christmas, he was begging to send him a lemon, so he and / or his comrades could treat their diseases. Needless to say, that there were no lemons.

@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized

2 жыл бұрын

Could you give us his name or at least his unit?

@badpritt3845

2 жыл бұрын

@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized ich werde meinen Bruder fragen. Meine Mutter ist verstorben und er war derjenige, der Zugang zu den Dokumenten hatte. Soweit ich weiß, existiert die Feldpost-Nr. noch. Er hatte damit Nachforschungen angestellt, die ergeben haben, dass mein Großvater bei dem Versuch einen Brückenkopf an der Wolga einzunehmen verschollen ist. Wenn er noch Unterlagen hat, melde ich mich. Gibt es evtl eine E-Mail Adresse? Wäre mir lieber als das öffentlich zu Posten.

@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized

2 жыл бұрын

@@badpritt3845 ja, die email findet sich hier, runterscrollen: kzread.infoabout

Kinda proud being a current combat engineer, seeing that our job has always been important and hasn't changed much

Interesting, I do have to admit, I do love listening to this guest talk.

Thank you, Jens and Bernhard, for a great interview and presentation! Wunderbar!

I like these interviews that develope into a nice and interesting conversation about smaller topics often overlooked.

You’re the best ever Bernhard! I love your videos! The greatest of all time!!!!

Another excellent video- Please make more on Stalingrad.

My first encounter with these guys was playing the first scenario in Squad Leader, I had not heard of them before, but the engineers are really nasty!

Excellent interview.

@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized

2 жыл бұрын

thanks!

Jens is back!

Aloha Bernard; EXCELLENT! Mahalo

Bernhard, were you and yours safe from the flooding that wreaked havoc across parts of Central/Western Europe?

@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized

2 жыл бұрын

yeah

@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized

2 жыл бұрын

thank you!

I imagine that these soldiers had the highest casualties rate

@looinrims

2 жыл бұрын

Rushing a fortified machine gun bunker with nothing but flamethrowers and gigantic balls? Absolutely not, their balls gave +5 Vitality

@mcsmash4905

2 жыл бұрын

well i mean if i saw a guy pointing a flamethrower towards me i would just make myself scarce in that area

@georgyzhukov6409

2 жыл бұрын

@@looinrims balls riddled with bullet holes

The US Army Called their engineers pioneers (12B10) until sometime in 1973. The secondary MOS was Infantry. I ended up being a 12B30 demolition specialist in the 5th combat engineer battalion.

Thank for this information

Thanks

Thank you 👍

Thankyou

Jens in a Suit! Yeah!

My friend: Do you ever hear about the Assault Engineer? Me: Imagine a group of engineering students, equipment in their hands, charging at me.

Very itneresting!

Hi, Another great video 👍 Can I suggest a video on how Germany managed to continue building weapons in the very last months of the war... watched a video on how the Kar98K works, and was impressed on how such a 'simple' weapon required such complicated made parts

Very nice 👍

Quite busy job that. To be moved around same area to deal with various pockets of resistance.

Cool!

Thanks for the video. Side note you guys are looking sharp

@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

this was very interesting.

Cool... .!!

An interesting video, kudos to Military History not Visualized for picking up even rather obscure themes. Perhaps the following title, concerning combat of an engineer unit as a microcosm study is interesting: Jason D. Mark, Into Oblivion - Kharkov to Stalingrad, The Story of Pionier-Bataillon 305, Leaping Horsemen Publications.

I wish I would have known this term when I was in Germany. Germans always seemed confused about an engineer who was in combat.

@MrCosinuus

2 жыл бұрын

Most Germans propably think of "Ingenieur", a person who studied engineering at university.

@genericpersonx333

2 жыл бұрын

It does not help that military engineers/pioneers are often inconsistently labeled within their own services, let alone when trying to bring the terminology of one nation to another. By way of example: I had an associate who was labeled a "Combat Engineer" even though he never was shot at or shot at anything during his two years building buildings in Afghanistan. Why? His unit was operating in a "combat zone" so they were automatically "combat engineers." I had an associate who was assigned to build and maintain railroads during WW2. His unit was regularly referred to as the "railroad pioneers" because they were often assigned to clear the land and collect wood for rails to be laid down. The other unit that often worked with his unit were called "railroad engineers" because they focused on maintaining the tracks already laid down. Last and not least was a fellow who was the "field engineer" because his unit, during the Cold War in Germany, was close to the East German border as opposed to the plain "engineers" who were guys operating in bases further back. Basically his unit was "in the field," because they were close to the possible enemy, even though everyone had permanent barracks with plumbing and central heating.

@kingoliever1

2 жыл бұрын

Obviously we have our own word for this, Pionier and a bit under 10 words you can set before it to describe what kind it is, from Tank to Railway Pionier we got everything.

Random question if you do answer this, are Panzer-Pionier just pioniers mounted on armored halftracks or are they something more unique or is it just a term for them if they are in a Panzer division. I remember seeing some units being noted as Panzer-Pionier which were in Panzer divisions rather than just Pioniers so it throws me off.

@Zajuts149

2 жыл бұрын

The Panzer-Pioniere was the Engineer battalions of the Panzer Divisions. For instance, Panzer-Pionier Battalion 50, that was brought in for Operation Hubertus was the engineer battalion for the 22nd Panzer Division. Usually, only 1 company was mounted in armoured half-tracks, while the rest was mounted in trucks.

@user-lg4mm3mf8i

2 жыл бұрын

As Lars already said in his comment. Panzer Pioniere formed the engineer battalion of the Panzer Division. In the early part of the war 1939 - 1941 all of them were mounted in trucks although I think they had some Panzer I tanks that carried demolitions charges. As the war progressed, armoured halftracks became available and 1 company got those while the rest still had trucks. The engineers in armoured halftracks are sometimes called Gepanzerte Panzerpioniere.

@meanmanturbo

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-lg4mm3mf8i brings me back memories of playing Steel Panthers and how silly my core troop formation would be. Yes, my over strength company/under strength battalion soze kampfgruppe will have a company of assault engineers in half tracks, as well as 2 88mm flak thank you.

@TheLastSterling1304

2 жыл бұрын

Well unique to them was the usage of the flamethrower 251 and the Wurfrahmen 40 "Stuka zu Fuss". The Wurfrahmen wasn't an artillery piece, rather a demolitoin vehicle akin to the churchill avre.

@kushanblackrazor6614

2 жыл бұрын

@@meanmanturbo In the original SP1 there was literally no reason not to take engineers as your core troops, it was indeed very silly.

I would like to learn more about Pioneer tactics in the battlefield, perhaps you could make another video about that.

@mcsmash4905

2 жыл бұрын

whenever i see them in a video game i imagine them as nutcases that one sends rushing towards some enemy obstacle or bunker and then blowing it up so that the regular units can pass

Considering Paulus served at Verdun in 1916 it's likely he had that perticular battle in mind and memory at Stalingrad.

Is there any chance you guys will release a translation of the German Pioneer/Engineer manuals? I want to know why the German Engineers thought the asparagus can was the best for perimeter security.

@looinrims

2 жыл бұрын

Reverb?

There is a great Lehr Film on the Pionier called, " Pioniere Voran " .

Like the SN-42 body armor in the top left

@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized

2 жыл бұрын

;)

I have some service records that show my great grandfather was a "Combat Engineer" at Stalingrad, he survived this battle but later was lost at the siege of Lublin in July 44, my desire is to clarify his burial place although i know it is unlikely i will be able to do this.....

You look like you are dressed for a formal event! Very stylish and James Bond.

That means the name "Sturmpioniere" did not keep what it promised. If I would have to organize a unit to storm bunkers, fortifications and industrial buildings without horrofic losses... It needs some armored vehicles with a big gun to blow building walls...Sturmtiger, 38T with SIG It could include some remote controlled tracked mines as springer and Goliath It requires engineers with different special charges to blow up bunkers, building walls It requires engineers with pumps and water tanks (firefighters vehicle) to fill up underground structures with water. Plenty of flame throwers of different size to flame bunkers and buildings ideally flame thrower tanks.

are those memoires of this ex general and ex Dresden mayor published (Wels?) ? I was not able to find it..

@clazy8

2 жыл бұрын

Helmut Welz second.wiki/wiki/helmut_welz

@sturm3d

2 жыл бұрын

@@clazy8 thanks a lot, checking it out

Out of topic. but I just have to ask. What is the black thing above Professor Wehner? It looks "flamethrowery".

Can you do video about german-turkish relations in ww2

Just wondering: do you "sync" your topics with the WW2 Channel (the WW2 in real-time series)? They just published a video about the planning of Hubertus.

@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized

2 жыл бұрын

no

@danielstickney2400

2 жыл бұрын

@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized I'd love to see Bernard interview Indy Neidel. Thoughtful interviewer, meet ebulient subject..

Ein paar Worte über die Ausstellung wäre schön.

Is the Stalingrad flim good? I am assuming this is the 1992 film they are talking about, not the 2013 one which seems to have poor reviews? I have been watching TIK's epically detailed series and would love to see a film on it if it is actually good.

@bradenhetzel8972

2 жыл бұрын

The 93 film is fantastic. You can find the whole thing on KZread even

Nice Leichte Sturmtannenbaum III ausf f.

@MrCosinuus

2 жыл бұрын

There is no serial number, therefore it has to be a fake one.

What is that big thing in the top left corner of the display? I can't identify it for some reason.

@chrisgibson5267

2 жыл бұрын

Could well be one of these. military.wikia.org/wiki/7.5_cm_KwK_37

@noelblack8159

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisgibson5267 yeah, like the KwK from the Panzerkampfwagen 3 or 4

Stalingrad 1993 is a very good movie

@moninchow

2 жыл бұрын

Probably the best movie of all times. In fact, I think I'll watch it tonight.

I can't imagine any of these guys surviving the war.

If somebody want a superb book obout the Sturmpionere in Stalingrad.......".ISLAND OF FIRE . The Battle of the Barrikady gun factory" of Jason Mark

11:47 Neitzel reference, Military History Academic universe confirmed!

@looinrims

2 жыл бұрын

He has videos with Prof Neitzel

Hey could you maybe do a video about Stalingrad on why the wehrmacht decided to do a frontal attack into the city? With most other cities they would encircle it and cut it of. Why the difference in Stalingrad?

@juanpaz5124

2 жыл бұрын

They couldn't have encircled Stalingrad

@looinrims

2 жыл бұрын

@@juanpaz5124 so they couldn’t surround it so…urban warfare? The hardest battle one can fight? There’s gotta be more than that

@austinmacneil9947

2 жыл бұрын

@@juanpaz5124 reason being?

@juanpaz5124

2 жыл бұрын

@@austinmacneil9947 I think it had to do with the Volga being right next to the city and the Soviets guarding the river banks. TIK covered this in his Stalingrad series.

@caryblack5985

2 жыл бұрын

It was on the Volga so you could not surround it and the Soviets brought in troops across the river. Also Stalingrad was a long but shallow city along the river bank and the Germans tried to envelope it from the south to the north. If they wanted the city they had to fight within the city.

I am in trouble, I just. can't pass by Dresden

This was not so informative as I had hoped. No specific Stalingrad "pioneer" stuff. So they used Flamethrowers but how specifically and what else? The only thing that I did not know before was that these units moved in on the city in small groups like in WW1 style that was going to fail beforehand since the commanders knew it would not work but higher up did not have any better ideas.

@Raf-xl3oz

2 жыл бұрын

Have a look for "Island of Fire" an extremely detailed account of the battle for the Barrikady Gun Factory and/or "Into Oblivion" the story of Pionier-Bataillon 305 - both by Jason D. Mark. These books nicely overlap and complement each other to provide the reader with a visceral account of the fighting in this sector of Stalingrad. In particular both books detail the role / expectations of the Sturm-Pioniers as part of the combined arms teams that took part in the assaults. There is ample discourse to inform the reader about the strengths and weaknesses of the Pioniers vs Infantry or the paradigm around troops specifically trained for assaulting fortifications vs the raw experience of the infantry who "learnt on the job" and were indeed hardened street fighters by this stage of the Battle. Particularly interesting are the accounts of changes in tactics from initially larger scale assaults on broader frontages, all the way to brutal assaults by combined arms attacks against isolated houses / blocks, which in the end paid the greatest dividends for the German's in trying to unhinge an equally stalwart resistance by the Soviet defenders, all be it too little too late.

@Lance-Urbanian-MNB

2 жыл бұрын

@@Raf-xl3oz WOW Thanks a lot. See I am part of a small team of PC game developers and we are looking into making a Stalingrad break out game with survival features like food and the elements in addition to fighting.

@Raf-xl3oz

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lance-Urbanian-MNB I think you will find it a challenging endeavour, unless you're thinking of creating some alternative reality scenario. I think the distances to be covered for the "escape" are already limiting any realistic scenarios, particularly if you're thinking of getting out of Stalingrad itself, rather than the western most point in the Malinovka salient. Notwithstanding access to appropriate maps/compass, navigation across the featureless steppe was challenging enough in summer, but you now have snow obscuring many of the landmarks and so the opportunity for error increases exponentially. Add to this the fact that all the intervening villages were firmly in Soviet hands, and given the soviets were expecting a break out attempt on the most likely axes towards the known German HKL, they had those well covered by ground and air patrols. Even if you were to move only by night this still doesn't account for the fact that there is no place to provision yourself along the way for a 40-50Km trek and that's a rough distance from Malinovka to the closest german lines. If you extend that to Stalingrad its probably another 50-60Km or so across enemy held territory... Any interaction with the soviets would tip them off to your location irrespective of any immediate success and the potential rate of advance would not be sufficient to escape aerial observation. I suppose you could try a hypothetical disguise but I doubt Soviet security would be that lax or that the local population would not report you as you left. The most feasible scenario would probably be around elements of 3rd ID which were in the tip of the Malinovka salient and you could time the break out with the commencement of operation Koltso around 10 Jan, where the Soviets started to reduce the pocket, and Maliovka had to be evacuated. Your potential narrative might be around rear guard troops which had to hold the line for as long as possible. Realising they're cut off either way you can develop a potential scenario to try to fight/sneak through the 40-50Km to the German lines...

*”Burn em out”*

Read a bit about some in the Warsaw uprising, where some really terrible story´s.

Also Called Dead engineers

You Beard is starting to look at might thin and scraggly perhaps put forth a effort into growing it out and make it all of us proud! 😁

@demonprinces17

2 жыл бұрын

Simon from top tenz sells beard oil

No offense but I think Stalingrad is overrated at this point, surrounded by propaganda and myth of the Soviets about the 6th Army. Kiev and Minsk are probably the largest encirlements in human history yet nobody mentions them as turning points in the war or how they changed the mentality of the Soviets after losing around a couple of million people there. I mean sure, they possessed seemingly inexhaustible manpower and material compared to the Germans but still it was probably a big morale shock.

@alejandrocasalegno1657

2 жыл бұрын

Overrrated????????.........for 40 years was UNDERRATED..........in the West under the "Cold War· ideology only Normandy or the Alamein were really important!!! The end of the USSR and the opening of the records to the West show the colossal battle of Stalingrad.in the true context.

@TigerBaron

2 жыл бұрын

@@alejandrocasalegno1657 And why is that exactly? The Allies shot themselves in the foot by helping the Soviets only to replace one lunatic at the head of a dictatorship with another bigger one. Soviet tank lined up the West European border after the war and threatened to invade the free world while their occupied territories were struggling and people trying to escape to the west. There are still many Soviet documents kept secret by Putin's government because they're afraid of the truth of their ex-regime and probably many were also destroyed so they'd never be uncovered lest we all know what actually happened beneath all of the propaganda.

@alejandrocasalegno1657

2 жыл бұрын

@@TigerBaron A alliance with the bad........to defeat the worst, and the nazi Germany the worst all the way!!!

@TigerBaron

2 жыл бұрын

@@alejandrocasalegno1657 Close to a hundred million that died in cold blood at the hands of the communists beg to disagree with you on that.

@alejandrocasalegno1657

2 жыл бұрын

@@TigerBaron I am happy the USSR ended, i am NOT a communist fan, Churchill and Roosevelt were anti-communist the two..........but at the time Stalin was the less bad option.

Warum macht Ihr das nicht in Deutsch mit englischen Untertitel.-.... Ihr seid doch ein deutsche Museum für die mehrzahl deutscher Besucher und Interessenten.... nix gegen englisch... aber das muss doch andersrum sein... Kopfschüttel... meint ihr das ein Englische soder amerikanisches Museum dies tun würde???

So germans DO have inside voices! 😂 (this is a joke relax trolls)

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Enlisted German faction.

Im stopped right on the beginning....can we call the "Stalingrad" as " Stahl in Grad"? Too much of of fire and psychopatic resistance was going on on this city through the war. Without any bigger logistic problems in Soviet Hands.....i see that as underestimating your oponent, and your cruise through went in stop of course.

@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized

2 жыл бұрын

???

@miroslavdockal9468

2 жыл бұрын

@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized , look at Tik visualitions..... 😉, Your shot isnt bad, but little pointless. Im from ex kommie land anyway.... 🤣

@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized

2 жыл бұрын

@@miroslavdockal9468 first no and second you probably mean "Grab" not "Grad" or something.

So it was a renaming and reframing of a dumb idea.

What was the point in capturing impoverished Russian cities?

@ChrisS-fh7zt

2 жыл бұрын

You do know Stalingrad was 1 of only 3 places that produced the T-34 during the war but they produced it uninterrupted before the German 6th Army came and kicked in the door. The other 2 places was Kirov and Tankograd complex when it finally was able to get started in mid 1942. That and the October steel and chemical works was also very important for everything from steel, to armor plate to ingredients for explosives and smokeless/artillery powder. Stalingrad was far from impoverish. In fact almost everything that came out of the Soviet Union photo wise about the benefits and strengths of a communal economy and society was taken in Stalingrad during the early to lat 1930's.

@beachboy0505

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisS-fh7zt respect your view. Germany lost two wars. How would the British and American generals have dealt with it? Strategic heavy bombers and surrounding the city. Ever since ancient times, it was known that to capture a city, surround and immure . Don't send in your best troops into the maze to be slaughtered. The Germans are not clever enough to win wars.

@Xfire209

2 жыл бұрын

@@beachboy0505 Well British and American generals also took many cities by storming them in WW2 and up to this day. Seems like they are ignorant of your armchair generalship.

@mito88

2 жыл бұрын

@@beachboy0505 fighting against the world in 5 different fronts.