I like how Brian says that, when he was a seven-month-old infant, his "beard was a lot thinner back then." 🤣 Apparently little Brian was born with a dusting of reddish whiskers from the get-go!

@lifewasgiventous1614

Жыл бұрын

What's actually funny is that babies actually do have facial hair when their born, my son is 4 months old and he had white facial hair, the doctor said it's very common and that It will fall off in the coming days and it did just that.

@Krehfish534

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like esau

"My beard was a lot thinner back then". That is the sort of humor I'm here for

Interestingly, when I was a Protestant having a conversation with a Catholic, he politely said that Protestantism is a heresy (without saying I was personally a heretic), and that is what prompted me to study the differences and realize the Catholic perspective made more sense. I joined RCIA soon after that conversation.

@jessewilliams15

Жыл бұрын

Deo gratias!

@laurendemler5117

Жыл бұрын

Same. If someone hadn’t told me that Protestantism was radically against the Church Christ founded, I’m not sure if I would have converted.

@bernardevillaw3410

Жыл бұрын

You JOINED a child rape cult in adult life, knowing that it's a child rape cult? 330,000 little boys in France were raped by 3,000 catholic pedophile priests, and it barely made the news, because people EXPECT that from catholics. Did anyone tell you that Jesus said child rape was UNFORGIVABLE (Matt 18:6-14), and everyone supporting it will get eternal damnation. You've just bought yourself eternal damnation.

@cubenerf

Жыл бұрын

@@bernardevillaw3410 All of that doesn't change the fact that Jesus established one authoritative Church through the apostles. The sins of others don't affect the Church's official teachings.

@Charlotte_Martel

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. If one does not believe in the concept of heresy, how can he honestly attempt to convert others to Catholicism?

To all Protestants. Hello from this simple Catholic. I hope we can all someday understand our differences a little bit better.

@amyleen2008

Жыл бұрын

Hello from a protestant, I agree with you

@silveriorebelo2920

Жыл бұрын

we can understand tyhe differences, but that is far from helping reducing those differences

@AluminiumT6

Жыл бұрын

Yes, understanding the differences leads to the certain knowledge of the heretical nature of protestantism.

@tenaciousb4731

Жыл бұрын

@Christian Trevisan lol Bro, now I know you are trolling. That is the opposite, of what the video is about. 🤣 Still made me laugh

@AluminiumT6

Жыл бұрын

@@tenaciousb4731 No trolling. Protestantism is objectively heretical.

A long time ago I worked with a Catholic man and he'd say of Protestants, "and they're still protesting after all these hundreds of years". He said that the Catholic church had addressed the issues that Luther had raised and therefore there was no longer need for them to continue their protesting. I'm Eastern Orthodox BTW but love listening to your talks every week, Brian. May God continue to bless you and your family richly.

@JW_______

Жыл бұрын

The reason for that is because we won't accept the pope's claims to be infallible, and the Roman Catholic church literally won't let us back in unless we do. [Edit: yes, I understand the pope only claims infallibility when speaking ex cathedra]

@mindimoom9142

Жыл бұрын

@@JW_______ unfortunately the Catholic church has added some doctrines which do complicate matters for both Protestants and EO.

@budicaesar1213

Жыл бұрын

Protestant here, they have been reduced but the core issues are STILL there, enough to keep us to continue protesting that is. But of course, Unity amongs Christian i think still has more priority, especially in this day and age. Unity is not uniformity though. So I still do pray for my Catholics and Orthodox brothers and sisters to be united in Christ soon, in this world or perhaps in Heaven. Peace ✝️🙏☦️

@richardsaintjohn8391

Жыл бұрын

Not protesting. Just reject the Supreme authority of the Bishop of Rome. For Roman Catholic yes. But not the whole universal body of Christ. Venerable Patriarchy only.

@EasternOrthodox101

Жыл бұрын

@@budicaesar1213🤺☦🇷🇺 No, you are not Christians. The unity will be only with Catholics, Jews and Muslims. Convert please

Very charitable, Brian. Very insightful video, nice job.

Thoughtful content. I appreciate the spirit within which it was shared. I'll look forward to your next video as well.

God bless you. It´s very noble of you to show love for the differents and fight for the unity in the church.

As a former protestant, I have to say most of the people I knew were fully aware of Luther and Calvin and sided with them against the Church.

@Wilkins325

Жыл бұрын

Against the ROMAN church.

@gaiusoctavius5935

Жыл бұрын

@@Wilkins325 I mean there were only two denominations at that time so yeah they were responding to the Church.

@gch8810

Жыл бұрын

@@Wilkins325 No, against the Church. Neither Luther nor Calvin sided with the Eastern Church. They disagreed with both Western and Eastern Christianity.

@bernardevillaw3410

Жыл бұрын

You converted, and joined the world's largest child rape cult? 330,000 little boys in France were raped by 3,000 catholic pedophile priests, and it barely made the news, because people EXPECT that from catholics. Jesus said child rape was unforgivable (Matt 18:6-14), and everyone involved will get eternal damnation. That means you.

@gaiusoctavius5935

Жыл бұрын

@@bernardevillaw3410 Dude really?

I’m getting confirmed into the Church this Easter vigil, coming from evangelicalism. Your channel was critical in my catechesis because of how fairly but firmly you state the case for Catholicism. Other channels that are too brash against Protestants pushed my decision to join RCIA back farther.

@delbert372

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/c3WjsMiBYdWspKg.html

@ninaluz8710

Жыл бұрын

In these times, I pray you discern the Holy Spirit to guide you into His Church. There’s so much sacrilege and offences against God. God bless your journey 🙏

@truthamazing5027

Жыл бұрын

Stupid things catholics preach; The first reason that Mary’s perpetual virginity matters is that it is a question of truth, not opinion, and the fact is that the Church has unerringly defended the doctrine since its earliest days. Certainly the Church Fathers, for example, would not defend an untruth; veritas vos liberabit, after all. Mary is as much a virgin as your grandmother. Matthew 13:55 “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?

@flintymcduff5417

Жыл бұрын

Welcome home.

Your example of how we might not recognize Baby Brian was spot- on. I recently shaved my beard after some years, and my youngest child didn’t even recognize me, and wanted nothing to do with me. As a convert, from Protestantism, I saw the parallel immediately: I think sometimes some Catholics can be rightly accused of not recognizing the church without a beard (spontaneous, passionate Christian communities) and Protestants look at a full-grown, mature Church as some kind of creepy monster. They’re both throwing out Bryan with the beard…you know what I mean 😂

@truthamazing5027

Жыл бұрын

Stupid things catholics preach; The first reason that Mary’s perpetual virginity matters is that it is a question of truth, not opinion, and the fact is that the Church has unerringly defended the doctrine since its earliest days. Certainly the Church Fathers, for example, would not defend an untruth; veritas vos liberabit, after all. Mary is as much a virgin as your grandmother. Matthew 13:55 “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?

@ccbarr58

Жыл бұрын

Myhusband always had a beard. My grandparents(christian scientist) asked if he got a job yet! He was always employed. My grandma is so cute.

As a Protestant, I really appreciate how generous you are being towards us. A lot of Catholics have a very low opinion of us. Of course, there are also Protestants who have a very low opinion of Catholics, so the low opinions go in both directions.

@ccbarr58

Жыл бұрын

We Catholics are constantly bashed. No other faith gets bashed like we do.

@PolymorphicPenguin

Жыл бұрын

@@ccbarr58 I see what you mean here on KZread. It seems a lot of Protestants make it their mission to go around to videos about Catholicism and try to refute Catholic teachings they don't like. I don't think I've ever seen the reverse happen.

@NaptownSubaru

Жыл бұрын

@@PolymorphicPenguin Aside from channels like this you mean? If a group of people believed 2+2=5, your options are to either correct or leave it alone. Now say you leave it alone, and this same group "converts" and indoctrinates others into believing that 5 is the true answer to 2+2, would it not behoove you to correct them then or continue on? Don't get me wrong, I can acknowledge the great things that the Catholic church has done, but just because it's done some good things but when you got human worshiping, pagan bead mandates, man forgiving the "weight" of sins, etc. You're hard pressed to say any of that is remotely Godly.

@PolymorphicPenguin

Жыл бұрын

@@NaptownSubaru I understand that you if believe a certain group of people are wrong about something, it's natural to want to tell them they're wrong, but it's the way you go about it matters. Some of these critics of Catholicism seem to just leave comments without even watching the video.

@julienielsen3746

Жыл бұрын

@@ccbarr58 Evangelical Christians get bashed also.

Great Video Brian.

Thank you Brian for the recent uploads you’ve put out! Will you be putting out videos at this rate consistently? I’m barely catching up lol. Again, thanks! 😇

I highly doubt I will ever convert to catholicism, but that doesn't stop me from appreciating the channel, you bishop barron and a few others have gone a long way in helping me become more friendly towards those inside the catholic faith.

@dylantemple2509

Жыл бұрын

Look into some Catholic Miracles. The miracle of the Sun, Our Lady of Guadalupe, and Eucharistic Miracles. God gives signs, he doesn't leave humanity high and dry. We have more to cling to than private interpretation of scripture, which often leaves us divided and angered by other views.

@RickW-HGWT

Жыл бұрын

Stay away from barron, go with more traditional Catholic sites.

@DavidRodriguez-cm2qg

Жыл бұрын

Peter kreeft is really good too. Read some of his books.

@carolynkimberly4021

Жыл бұрын

Why would you be unfriendly?

@lifewasgiventous1614

Жыл бұрын

@@carolynkimberly4021 Well much of what I believed about catholicism and how I've been treated by catholics in the past had given me ample reason not to bother with them...by watching various catholic speakers I've learned that many don't have their nose so high in the air and a large portion are just normal people doing their best to live what they beleive to be ethical Christian lives, as a protestant I can sympathize with that.

Former protestant here. Everyone of us is guilty of having said some "stupid" things. But I can assure you, I've never heard anything more "stupid" and down right hateful than what protestants say and especially what adventism teaches and says toward Catholics. None of us will escape giving an account for every idle word.

@truthamazing5027

Жыл бұрын

Stupid things catholics preach; The first reason that Mary’s perpetual virginity matters is that it is a question of truth, not opinion, and the fact is that the Church has unerringly defended the doctrine since its earliest days. Certainly the Church Fathers, for example, would not defend an untruth; veritas vos liberabit, after all. Mary is as much a virgin as your grandmother. Matthew 13:55 “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?

@truthamazing5027

Жыл бұрын

@@kylecityy Its not complicated. Once you have sex, you are not a virgin. God does not care if you did vaginal rejuvenation or whatever bs catholics believe Mary did. You can't unmurder or unlie. Virginity is more than flesh and blood. But good to know Catholics have such poor understanding of basic science.

@truthamazing5027

Жыл бұрын

Hi stupid catholics. How on earth is Mary a perpetual virgin after Joseph consummated their marriage and she had many children after Jesus? Matthew 1:24-25 When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus. Matthew 13:55 “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?

@flintymcduff5417

Жыл бұрын

@YAJUN YUAN yet Adventism can only trace it's beginning to Ellen G. White and the Catholic Church begins directly with Jesus and the apostles.

Brian I disagree, as a former Protestant I can say that hard truths are what converted me; Knowing that I was a heretic and not part of the one true Church. A pandering Church that is more concerned with feelings than the truth, and that is more concerned with carving out a way to salvation while remaining in error, converts no one.

@Waldemarvonanhalt

Жыл бұрын

Same. The people who weren't affraid to offend me got through to me.

@hamie7624

Жыл бұрын

Based.

@jackieann5494

Жыл бұрын

Yup. The truth works on its own behalf and wins .

@watrewks

Жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I try to tell people. I would add that in order to be a true Catholic you need to reject Vatican II and her antipopes. You should check out the debate Br. Peter Dimond had on Pints with Aquinas. Im glad you realized you were a Protestant heretic, but if you didn’t reject Vatican II you did not convert to Catholicism.

@therese_paula

Жыл бұрын

Amen

Awesome info. Thanks

I don't believe anyone can say you weren't fair or charitable in your assessments, Mr Holdsworth. Well done.

Good vid! It’s funny cause many of my Christian friends are prots and they like to try and attack me for being Catholic. I also like joking with them, it’s almost like Christian camaraderie. At the end of day, the one thing that unites us, is we are together in communion in Christ.

My parents were both converts-one from Lutheranism and the other was Pentecostal. My mom’s father was a preacher, and she described his theology as like a sweater. When he’d interview with a potential congregation, he’d adjust his beliefs like he was rolling up the sleeves of the sweater. He was always flexible. If they asked a pointed question he’d answer with another question to try to feel out what position that particular group wanted. This gave her very acute insight into the falsity that is inherent in Protestantism, especially here in the US where there are over 30,000 different “denominations.” Church splits are so common that “church shopping” is the norm, though many deny this. Btw, eventually my mom became a writer for The Remnant newspaper. One of my sharpest memories is of my mom arguing with a priest after our first Novus Ordo Mass, saying “I was a protestant for 18 years and I know how to recognize protestantism when I see it, and this is protestantism. My dad backed her up all the way.

@myfakinusername

Жыл бұрын

Novus Ordo is valid. Stop it...

@atrifle8364

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, the Protestants who never left Protestantism mentally are all opposed to the Novus Ordo. Christianity is a mindset. It involves trusting Peter because of Jesus. Your last sentence is about someone who is not trusting Peter, which is Protestantism.

@JohnFromAccounting

Жыл бұрын

Church shopping is not isolated to protestants. Lots of Catholics shop around to find a priest or a community they like.

@EasternOrthodox101

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnFromAccounting No they aren't, not in the way you do anyway

@ms.mariannejollineau7049

Жыл бұрын

​@Shawn I agree. Novos Ordo valid but some worship is just so unusually more holy in its atmosphere. My church is obviously struggling. Please pray for priests.

Love the video, Brian! I'm looking forward to "Stupid Things Protestants say about Catholics", and then I would be super keen to get your thoughts on "Stupid Things Atheists / Agnostics say about Catholics" and vice versa.

@thereaction18

Жыл бұрын

Brian doesn't make videos long enough for those topics.

@NontraditionalCatholic

Жыл бұрын

@@thereaction18 I think Brian would be able to pick a few examples and make a good video!

@thereaction18

Жыл бұрын

@@NontraditionalCatholic Probably, but don't you get tired of hearing all the stupid things Protestants say about Catholics and all the stupid things atheists say altogether?

@NontraditionalCatholic

Жыл бұрын

@YAJUN YUAN I think that means "Patreon member"

@AnastasiaR

Жыл бұрын

I second this

Very gracious of you to make a video about the misunderstandings Catholics have about Protestants and to make it before the one about Protestant misunderstandings about Catholics. As a Protestant here is a list of misunderstandings which I find that Protestants have about Catholics: 1. That they worship Mary and the Saints 2. That the Pope is infallible in everything he does and says. 3. That they consider Church Tradition to be more authoritative than the Bible. 4. That they prohibit their congregants from reading and studying the Bible on their own. 5. That a Catholic believes they can sin all they want as long as they go to Confession afterwards to confess it.

I’m a Lutheran and I just want to say, I appreciate this video. In the end we are all serving the same God. While we disagree on some pretty important things, we are still Christian and working towards the same goal. I look forward to the Protestant video!

@mommyof3smarties

Жыл бұрын

Amen to that!

Granted it isn’t Protestantism, but I’ve seen new non denom churches be “Gospel Only” and they come across as very ignorant of history. Especially the early church and OT stories

@alaunaenpunto3690

Жыл бұрын

A lot of protestants haven't even read their bible, much less church history.

Magisterial Reformed here, with phd in history of reformation. At the same time, I’ve also taught myself Latin and have the te deum put to memory, I’ve read (and enjoyed immensely) the works of Gregory the Great, Leo XIII’s encyclicals, as well as numerous church fathers. Why do I mention all that? Not to boast, but because none of you know me, nor I you, and I want to give you a sense of where I’m coming from in shorthand. Im a Protestant, but also convinced that there is much to be gained from charity - a virtue that this video exhibits. I see that same charity in the works of Protestant and Catholic theologians in the 1530s/40s, and also afterwards, although it became harder for both sides to hear one another after that. I say this in full knowledge of what could be said to me in response, and of what the Protestant / rcc apologetic might be - I have found myself in greater and greater sympathy with the Roman church in recent years, and have found greater and greater riches in its authors.

@atrifle8364

Жыл бұрын

Respectfully, we are not the Roman Church. We are the Catholic Church, with Peter's seat which happens to be in Rome. I am glad you find Catholics charitable. I would politely ask that you name us accurately. A Byzantine Catholic is not a Roman Catholic.

@davidmcpike8359

Жыл бұрын

"full knowledge," eh? Well color me skeptical, but...

@tomgreene1843

Жыл бұрын

Have you come across the writing of Newman ?

@soulfuzz368

10 ай бұрын

@@davidmcpike8359 the hubris…

Enjoyed your vid! On the next one, could you touch on Papal infallibility please? Thanks!

I love so much this video!! ❤️ From the Holy Land

@AlexanderLittlebears

Жыл бұрын

are you jewish?

I saw Brian at fiddler on the roof last weekend and I wanted to say I enjoy your videos even though I don't always agree with you but he was with his family. This video I agree more. I remember doing a Bible study with Bullah Alliance to practice my Spanish and those guys really know their stuff and had beautiful fellowships I seldom see in the catholic church.

@atrifle8364

Жыл бұрын

The Catholic Church is here to give people fellowship with Jesus. Fellowship with other people is desirable, but way down on the list.

@BrianHoldsworth

Жыл бұрын

It was great to meet you. I wish we had more time to unpack your journey. If you want to discover beautiful Catholic community, come check us out at the Latin mass: vitalgrandinchaplaincy.ca/

I’m a Traditional Anglican, It is surprising, and simultaneously unsurprising to see this video from Holdsworth.

@tomgreene1843

Жыл бұрын

What do you think of Newman....who drank first to his conscience and then to the Pope?

How To Be A Christian is an excellent Catholic channel. Unapologeticaly though charitably Christian. (Protestant currently doing RCIA)

@atrifle8364

Жыл бұрын

I just discovered Ferris thanks to this channel. So very excellent! So very glad to have on your way to us.

What a clear and nuanced viewpoint. This helped me grow in charity both towards sincere believers who know nothing beyond what they have been taught in Protestantism and toward fellow Catholics who may have malformed viewpoints of their own understanding of the faith. And more charitable toward myself when I am not as informed or charitable as I should be.

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About the (well-put) point on heresy, while I do agree overall, I do also have to wonder when the personal culpability actually sets in. The average normie Catholic "material heretic" and your average normie Protestant are probably in the same boat, through their errors being rooted in both a lack of knowledge and lack of desire for correct knowledge, but at what point would that lack of curiosity be allowed to be blamed on that individual? Especially when it seems a lot of Protestants are basically persisting in their errors because, for one reason or another, it would be too much of a hassle to convert. It's also worth considering that many Protestants have no qualms with the doctrinal differences between Protestant denominations, but DO often have problems with Catholics, resulting in this appearance of "I'd be OK with being any type of Christian, EXCEPT Catholic." I can agree overall that "heretic" may not apply today as it once did, but when enough misunderstandings have been corrected and yet the individual Protestant still doesn't wish to submit to the Church and her teachings, for reasons that basically boil down to "I don't like the idea of those teachings being true and/or of calling myself a Catholic", I really don't know what else you can call it, and I don't really know what reason there would be to NOT use the word "heretic" other than out of a (possibly-correct but also possibly-misguided) sense of politeness to our brothers and sisters.

@shawnbenson7696

Жыл бұрын

As someone you would call a Protestant, I was baptized into the body of Christ alone, mindfilly into the one holy catholic and apostolic as best my presbytees (elders) could understand it from the word of God. I would nothing more than to be united into the one body with all apostlolic orthodox Christians. Read the history of Jan Huss, and try to see if someone could see him as someone devout to the catholic faith being horrible executed for a number things the Catholic now allows but didn't in his day. Communion in both kinds weekly, venacler bibles and service. Secondly, find the first named person who was infant baptized? From my reading of history it wss Julian the Apostate. All the grwat 3 and 4 century saints that we know of when they wherr baptized were not baptized as infants. Furthermore, for better or worse I have an English perspective on history. William the Fat was blessed by the Pope and ended the selection of English kings by the witan, he then committed near to genocidal harrowing of the North. Or the Pope declaring Q E 1 a heretic, and sending the armada etc. I can love catholics as my brothers in the Lord but the Papacy from my historical perspective has at times been filled by people whose lifestyles and actions were hard to perceive as Christian.

@carolynkimberly4021

Жыл бұрын

@@shawnbenson7696 Elizabeth 1 was even more heretical than Henry V111. Both were astoundingly cruel. E1 had many, many brave, holy priests drawn and quartered for the "crime" of saying Mass for the persecuted faithful in England. If the armada had succeeded, the Faith of the people would have been restored and the plundered monasteries given back to the monks and nuns.

@LaserFace23

Жыл бұрын

@@shawnbenson7696 And Peter, the first Pope, denied Christ three times, definitely not a Christian thing to do. Yet that doesn't mean he's not the Pope chosen by God, or that there's somehow no longer a Holy Magisterium, instituted by Christ, which would be inappropriate to break away from. The "bad popes" arguments don't invalidate the Church's actual teachings on what things like Papal Infallibility actually mean, nor do individuals or groups acting corruptly within the Church invalidate the Church herself. I would just encourage you to not let things like your English perspective on history cloud your search for Christ's True Church -- I'm an American from a long, long line of Protestants, trust me, I had my biases against Rome, and I also converted a few years ago, meaning I had to contend with Francis being a very very troubling Pope. But when the Biblical and historical evidence all increasingly pointed towards the Papacy and Magisterium being true, I knew it would basically be willful denial to let my own biases prevent me from converting. I would advise you to look at what the Catholic Church teaches, directly from the Catholic Church, and not from sources and perspectives that, for historical, political, or even unintentional reasons, might be distorting things against the Catholic Church.

@winstoncottage344

Жыл бұрын

I really understand the point you are making here "any type of Christian except Catholic". That's why PRIDE is one of the seven deadly sins and it is their own pride that gets in the way of the truth.

@michaelmicek

Жыл бұрын

Converting can be an act of heroic virtue. Just because we're all called to be saints doesn't give one sinner the right to call out another.

Hey. Quick history question... What was it that the Protestant Church came about over? it's been a while since i read about it.

@projektred8335

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Some of my deepest theological understandings come from one of the best Protestant philosophers/theologians in history: CS Lewis. I can't use those types of accusations while holding that level of respect for the writer of "The Great Divorce", "Narnia", "The Screwtape Letters", etc. Excellent vid. Thank you Brian!

@BrianHoldsworth

Жыл бұрын

He's had a massive influence on me too. I certainly wouldn't be doing this without it.

As a Protestant, one of my biggest peeves is when Protestants refer to Rome's supposed works righteousness. And we still aren't having the same conversation about justification after five centuries.

Excellent video. I think a similar one but on stupid things Catholics say about Eastern Orthodox would also be really helpful.

5:58 How many Protestants are obstinately denying that Mass is a sacrifice? How many of them are doing so publically, by going to communion services that are not deemed sacrifices?

I appreciate the honesty and generosity expressed in this video. I’m canonically Catholic but find much in confessional Lutheranism more expressive of my theological convictions, what I actually believe. Nonetheless, I thought this was good, especially your use of Benedict.

@johnnyg.5499

Жыл бұрын

You are not the only one, Robert. As a life-long Catholic, I made it a point to study Lutheran history & doctrine. I refer to myself as a Lutheranized Catholic........am 75 years old......not a youngster anymore, but smarter about the INSTITUTIONAL RCC. The modern mess it's in makes me wonder about a lot of things.

@atrifle8364

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnyg.5499 - The institution of the Catholic Church has always been a mess. See the New Testament. Lutheranism as a theology is a mess of contradictions. It's also not like institutional Lutheranism isn't struggling anyway. This is bizarre conversation in that regard. Be Catholic. I don't even know what the "RCC" is, unless you are attending a church in Italy.

@robertb3336

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your reply, Johnny.

@Brian Holdsworth ... It's very easy to cherry pick history to find pieces that you present support your current point of view. However one needs to look at history in its entirety and not just in piece meal fashion. St. Ignatius book Against the Heresies is a real eye opener for any non Catholic that reads it because it sweeps aside a lot of the Protestant claims about the early Church.

10:50 Pope Leo XIII was definitely thinking mostly of European Calvinists and Lutherans and Anglicans. Among other things, they were already then tending to abandon Creationism. To reduce certain truths about Adam from historical fact to idealised abstractions without direct bearing on historical facts. That's one of the reasons so many Protestant sects (I mentioned Methodists) could accept eugenics.

Yes the focus on the word obstinacy is of primary importance because obstinacy can occur by silent refusal or rebuff of correction. Obstinacy can also occur by dissimulation or by willful ambiguity. Is it true that there is no salvation outside of the Holy Roman Catholic?

If these are your sins there pretty light I must say lol. Myself, well let’s just say I need confession often. 😂

14:54 When you quote John Henry Newman - is it _Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine (1845)?_ Because, some of what is now popular in quoting from it may directly contradict the position he gave as his own in _Retractation of Anti-Catholic Statements (1845)._ You see, by the time JHN converted, he already had made enemies, and those as well as some enemies of the Catholic Church were more than willing to accuse his conversion for being motivated by some dishonest motive. He was specifically told to write a book detailing how his decision to convert looked from the perspective of an Anglican who decided "I can no longer be an Anglican, I need to convert" ... I think he even wrote the Essay prior to receiving instruction, which would make Retraction his immediate gain in knowledge by instruction. And the idea that a tenet of the Church could be only implicitly present in the early Church and explicitly absent, not just from documents, not just from individual cases, but from everywhere, is just not true. I have just defended the _traditionality_ of the Immaculate Conception, via the Greek Church, notably of Ukraine which long had double communion straddling the schism, or via Paris since France got a Queen from Ukraine just before the schism.

13:13 “My beard was a lot thinner back then…” Slipped that funny one in there. Was your hair different at 7 months? 😃😃

When Catholic Truths were revealed to me as a former Protestant of the very real possibility I may not be saved I began seeking. Eventually I became Catholic. Catholics who adhere to the Truth, & express it Charitably will convert people. But we MUST express those truths. Very good video nonetheless though, you helped me in that process more than you know!

@camp5607

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@truthamazing5027

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Stupid things catholics preach; The first reason that Mary’s perpetual virginity matters is that it is a question of truth, not opinion, and the fact is that the Church has unerringly defended the doctrine since its earliest days. Certainly the Church Fathers, for example, would not defend an untruth; veritas vos liberabit, after all. Mary is as much a virgin as your grandmother. Matthew 13:55 “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?

10:21 I'd qualify that. St. Robert Bellarmine considered that old heresies that are already communities you are born into (like Anabaptists in Transsylvania in his day) are outside the jurisdiction of the Inquisition (perhaps in their case also for doubtfully valid or invalid baptisms, but in Belloc's terms, it holds for old heretical populations even if they are validly baptised) ... this is because in any individual born into a sect like that, innocence is presumed possible. What cannot be presumed possible is innocence in all individuals or the community as a whole. Therefore it can still be called heretical. It's a bit how you think of National Socialists or even Waffen-SS. Any particular person could well be innocent of the heresy called Gottesgläubige (like Catholics c. 1/4 of SS, with Protestants just above 1/2, 51 %) and any particular person could well be innocent of war crimes (I verified Otto Carius hadn't been even accused of that before I honoured him with an RIP on FB) - but that doesn't mean National Socialism as a whole or SS as a whole are not to be rejected.

Interesting set of videos to watch as a long time subscriber who is Mormon.

@suem6004

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Hurrah

@stevenirizarry9427

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Mormons are a cult my friend

@EasternOrthodox101

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Mormonism is a cult just like all Protestant denominations. Convert and save yourself please🙏☦

@asitallfallsdown5914

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@@stevenirizarry9427 No u

@asitallfallsdown5914

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@@EasternOrthodox101 At least you have better consistency to say all protestants. But no. I believe my religion to be true, and if most other Christian faiths get their way I should be fine in God's book, and if I am right, they there are greater blessings in store for me while you still get your heaven as most of you imagine it to be for the most part. So maybe convert yourself. But I respect anyone that advocates others to convert to their honest faith, so, have a blessed Sunday.

While my mother was pagan and raised me as such, her family was Methodist, and I was baptized Methodist (but never confirmed), and my dad's side is Lutheran. I remember being intrigued by the concept of nuns as a very small child, but otherwise believed Christians hated me, especially as I got older and more into paganism. I've since found the path to Jesus and have been researching the various sects of Christianity. I have been feeling drawn to Catholicism more and more, especially considering how very liberal many Lutheran churches are around me, and with how much vitriol I have seen and heard Protestants (on social media, on youtube, and in my personal life) have towards Catholics. I've personally known a Lutheran to speak worse of Catholics than of Satanists...which was a huge turn off from the faith, to say the least. Especially coming from a pagan background, I finally feel free from a lot of pagan dogma surrounding "spirits" and such. If I ever feel spiritually unsafe or even under attack, I know Jesus will keep me safe from demonic forces...even though I still feel silly saying that openly. I need to get over that.

@julienielsen3746

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You should ask God to guide you to the church He wants you to go to. Listen to Him in your heart/spirit.

Brian, I must say it may simply just be a language barrier here in Europe (a mainly religiously segregated place) particularly in Western Europe (Spain, Italy, and France) The proportion of Protestants in so small in these countries that the distinction is done away with by ordinary folk.

4:12 We have a difference on whether CCC is a Catholic Catechism.

The Marauders Map at minute 15:35 is for sure a genial hint to Catholicism being the Room of Requirement in this Voldemort-ruled Hogwarts we call Earth

I like "Protestant Revolution". Great video overall.

@MikePasqqsaPekiM

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It is. So many heresies condemned in the ancient church returned: Iconoclasm, Donatism, Gnosticism…like the wheel of time revolved. I prefer Protestant Rebellion ;) since it all comes down to authority, in the end. But there were legitimate abuses they were revolting from, in fairness. It wasn’t like the Catholic Church was at her greatest height. There’s a reason a catechism needed to be written soon after.

@Wilkins325

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It was a reformation.

@mikelopez8564

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@@Wilkins325 the full phrase is Protestant Reformation, which occurred OUTSIDE the Church. Inside the Church there was a counter-reformation which addressed the legitimate concerns of abuse in the Church and also addressed the errors being promulgated by protestant reformers. Did the American colonies secede from Britain or did they reform England? Same thing. Revolution is appropriate for describing what the Protestant Reformation is. If you don’t see it that way, then you have a lot of back taxes to pay England.

@comicsans1689

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@@Wilkins325 No, it was a deformation.

WHAT’S THE NAME OF THE INTRO CHANT?

@coryclark8577

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I believe it's Alleluia by Paul Jernberg.

@josephsarkis4443

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@@coryclark8577 thanks a lot🫶

As an Anglican, I walk in communion with my fellow Catholics and Orthodox brethren by emphasizing how we love Jesus Christ. We love Him for what He has done, is doing now and will do in the future. I find joy in sharing in our labors for the poor that He sees as being done unto Him.

I have a doctorate in theology and I have never heard of the term "material heretic." What is that? Somebody who adheres to a heresy without knowing it's a heresy?

@BrianHoldsworth

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Catholic theology is replete with the distinctions of matter and form just as we are body and soul.

Rather that throwing barb's, why not start from the reformation that maybe wrong? Luther grounded his theology in sola fide, hating the epistles of James and Hebrews which disagreed with his theology of faith ALONE. Could someone explain to me when and why the term Sola was applied to the several factors that seem complimentary and not mutually exclusive, as necessary for salvation?

Hi Brian, thank you for your well-thought out and articulated videos. Much of what you've said about protestants being Christians has been presented on EWTN programming. I do want to ask you about one aspect of this. Many traditional podcasts use the previous papal statements concerning salvation not being outside the CC and state that V2 changed essential core teachings like this. How would you respond to that? Second, many say that if we don't believe protestantism is a heresy, we won't seek to evangelize them or bring them to our Faith. Would love your feedback. God bless.

This: When did the Catholic church go wonky. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pqeezbuGmcqzeag.html

As a former Protestant, I have no issue saying I was a heretic. I came to faith in the Church through becoming aware of my heresies. Therefore, I knew I was a heretic and that moved me to convert.

@BrianHoldsworth

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Right. You moved from material heresy to formal heresy and the latter convicted you of the sin of it. But for those who are merely material heretics, the accusation of sin doesn't fit - which is what we mean when we call someone a heretic.

@thstroyur

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@@BrianHoldsworth Brian - a material heretic is _still_ a heretic; if this weren't so, a material heretic would _not_ be a heretic - which makes no logical sense; _reductio ad absurdum_ . My comment expounds on this; if you have the time to read, that'd be swell.

thank you brian, I am a protestant that takes spiritual insperation no matter their denomination, there is great wisdom to be shared that should not be dismissed simply because it is catholic or orthodox or protestant. such wisdom can be found on your channel as well and I dont care if it is coming from a catholic or anybody else, aslong you are not obviously opposed to christianity (lgbtq protestants for example). God bless and may we all be brothers in Christ.

9:06 As you showcase John McArthur, yes, he is less likely than Sid Roth to have (so far) good excuses. He did however take his distance from _one_ Lutheran tenet in practise recently. When he told the Governor of California to repent, he lined up with St. Thomas Becket and against Luther and Cranmer.

@margaretoconnor7077

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@hglundahl: John McArthur is rotten in the fact that he has no respect for Jesus in the way he disses Jesus' mother, I honestly feel like John McArthur disrespects his own mother this breaking the 4th commandment (5th in Prodestant books) Honour your Mother & Father Deuteronomy 5:16 Honour your father and your mother, as Yahweh your God has commanded you, so that you may have long life and may prosper in the country which Yahweh your God is giving you. Deuteronomy 27:16 Accursed be anyone who treats father or mother dishonourably." And the people must all say, Amen. Ephesians 6:2-3 2. The first commandment that has a promise attached to it is: Honour your father and your mother, 3 and the promise is: so that you may have long life and prosper in the land. Exodus 20:12 'Honour your father and your mother so that you may live long in the land that Yahweh your God is giving you. Exodus 21:17 Anyone who curses father or mother will be put to death. Leviticus 19:3 Each of you will respect father and mother. "And you will keep my Sabbaths; I am Yahweh your God. Luke 18:20 You know the commandments: You shall not commit adultery; You shall not kill; You shall not steal; You shall not give false witness; Honour your father and your mother.' Mark 7:10 For Moses said: Honour your father and your mother, and, Anyone who curses father or mother must be put to death. Mark 10:19 You know the commandments: You shall not kill; You shall not commit adultery; You shall not steal; You shall not give false witness; You shall not defraud; Honour your father and mother.' Matthew 15:4 For God said, "Honour your father and your mother" and "Anyone who curses his father or mother will be put to death." Proverbs 15:20 A wise child is a father's joy; only a brute despises his mother. Proverbs 19:26 He who ill-treats his father and drives out his mother is a child both worthless and depraved. Proverbs 20:20 Whoever curses father or mother will have his lamp put out in the deepest darkness.

@margaretoconnor7077

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@hglundahl : Mary Queen of heaven The mere fact that worshipping someone called “queen of heaven” is condemned in Jeremiah 7 eliminates the possibility of Mary being the true Queen of Heaven and Earth. This simply does not follow. The existence of a counterfeit queen does not mean there can’t be an authentic one. This reasoning followed to its logical end would lead to abandoning the entire Christian Faith! We could not have a Bible because Hinduism, Islam, and many other false religions have “holy books.” We could not call Jesus Son of God because Zeus and Hera had Apollo, Isis and Osiris had Horus, etc. The fact that there was a false “queen of heaven” worshipped in ancient Mesopotamia does not negate the reality of the true queen who is honored as such in the kingdom of God. The Catholic Church does not teach-and has never taught-that we should adore Mary. We honour Mary we do not worship her Worship is: sacrifice. Not! Singing and praying; we pray and sing to Mary; We don’t sacrifice. Veneration of Mary can even be seen in the catacombs way before the legalization of Christianity, hence the reason why Christians were forced to worship in secret in the catacombs. Why it is important to pray to Mother Mary to be intercessor (ask Jesus on our behalf) of our prayers. Jesus cannot say no to his Mother. Example: When Jesus and his mother were at the wedding at Cana and the wedding people ran out of wine, Mary approached Jesus and said “Son they have run out of wine” and Jesus replied, "Woman, what has this to do with me? My hour has not yet come." His mother then said to the servants, "Do whatever he tells you" (John 2:3-5). Jesus ordered the servants to fill containers with water and to draw out some and take it to the chief steward waiter. After tasting it, without knowing where it came from, the steward remarked to the bridegroom that he had departed from the custom of serving the best wine first by serving it last (John 2:6-10). John adds that: "Jesus did this, the first of his signs, in Cana of Galilee, and it revealed his glory; and his disciples believed in him" (John 2:11). Basically; even though Jesus was reluctant to do what he was asked, he went ahead and did what his mother asked of him anyway, therefore, his weakness is his mother’s request; Mary asked for Jesus to perform a miracle on behalf of the bridal party and he did it. So if Mary asks Jesus for something on our behalf, do you think he will deny her? He might say no at first but! He’ll give in to her. He might say no to us, but! He won’t, not do, what his mother asks of him, therefore; just ask Mary (his mother) to ask him our behalf and it will be granted. Aramaic (the language spoken by Jesus and his apostles,) had no word for “cousin,” so cousins and other close relatives were often referred to as brothers. The brothers and sisters that they said were actually Jesus' cousins by Joseph's brother (Clopas) . you will notice on the cross Jesus gave his mother to John to care for as his own mother. “Don't you think if she had other children they would have taken care of her” He would have had surviving siblings who would have taken care of her. It would be surprising for Jesus to release his brothers from their obligation to their mother, especially because he criticized the Pharisees for neglecting the support of their own parents in Matthew 15:3-6. The New Testament does not say that Elizabeth is Mary’s cousin, the Greek word for which is anepsios. The word used in Luke 1:36 to describe Elizabeth is suggenes (pronounced su-gen-ace), which simply means kinswoman or relative. It tells us nothing about her exact relation within the extended family. All we can tell from the word suggenes is that Elizabeth was some kind of female relative of Mary’s. But whether she was an aunt, a cousin, or a more distant relation cannot be determined from the word. Oh and Mary was a common name, so guess what, her sister in law had the same first name. John 19:25 New International Version (NIV) 25 Near the cross of Jesus stood his mother, his mother’s sister Mary, the wife of Clopas and Mary Magdalene. Mary was dedicated before her birth to serve the Lord in the temple, as Samuel had been dedicated by his mother (1 Sam. 1:11). This required perpetual virginity of Mary so that she could completely devote herself to the service of the Lord. Joseph was a male protector who would respect her vow of virginity. When Mary conceived, Joseph had to answer to the temple authorities. So Mary’s betrothal to Joseph was not in conflict with her vow of virginity. When the angel Gabriel tells Mary that she will bear a son, Mary asks, “How shall this be, since I have no husband?” (Luke 1:34). At this point, Mary was engaged to Joseph. Why would she then be so surprised at being told she would conceive? If she were planning on having children with Joseph in the usual way, it wouldn’t make sense for her to ask how she would be able to have a child. This question makes sense only if Mary was already planning to remain a virgin. The firstborn was to be consecrated to the Lord (Ex. 13:2); the parents were to redeem every firstborn son (Ex. 34:20). They weren’t supposed to wait until they had a second child to redeem the firstborn, and so the first son born to a woman was called the firstborn regardless of whether or not she had other children later on. Mary’s perpetual virginity demonstrates her purity of heart and total love for God. Mary’s virginity was “so great an example of material virtue” because it demonstrated her total devotion to Jesus. In Mary, we see an example of the purity our own hearts must have in total dedication to God. Her virginity also tells us something about the Church, which, like Mary, is both mother to the faithful and “pure bride to her one husband” (2 Cor. 11:2). Matthew 1:24-25 Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. 25 But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus. That doesn't mean that they consumated the marriage after the birth. This is used to emphasize what is being described before the until is fulfilled. It is not intended to say anything about the future beyond that point. Here are some biblical examples: 2 Samuel 6:23: And Michal the daughter of Saul had no child to (until) the day of her death. (Does this mean she had children after she died?) 1 Corinthians 15:25: For he (Christ) must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. (Does this mean Christ’s reign will end? By no means! Luke 1:33 says, “he will reign over the house of Jacob forever and of his kingdom there shall be no end.”) When Paul had appealed to be kept in custody for the decision of the emperor, I commanded him to be held until (Gk. heos hou) I could send him to Caesar.” Does this text mean that Paul would not be held in custody once he was “sent” to Caesar? Not according to the biblical record. He would be held in custody while in transit (see Acts 27:1) and after he arrived in Rome for a time (see Acts 29:16). The action of the main clause did not cease with heos hou. Proof the words Hail Mary were in the Bible. The first two passages from Saint Luke’s gospel is greeting of the Angel Gabriel to Mary, originally written in Koine Greek. The opening word of greeting хaĩpɛ , chaíre, here translated “Hail”, literally has the meaning “rejoice or be glad”. This was the normal greeting in the language in which Saint Luke’s gospel is written and continues to be used in the same sense in Modern Greek. Accordingly both “Hail and Rejoice” are valid English translations of the word (“Hail” reflecting the Latin translation and “Rejoice” reflecting the original Greek). The Hail Mary prayer is Biblical Hail Mary full of Grace, the Lord is with thee (Luke 1:28) хaĩpɛ , chaíre, here translated “Hail”, literally has the meaning “rejoice or be glad” so highly favoured! The Lord is with you.’ Blessed out though among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus. (Nod in reverence to the name). (Luke 1: 42) She gave a loud cry and said, 'Of all women you are the most blessed, and blessed is the fruit of your womb. Holy Mary, mother of God pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death. Amen. (we are asking the Mother of Jesus/God to pray for us) it’s ok to pray to Mother Mary and the saints because they are alive in heaven. (not dead). God Has no problems with the repetition of the Rosary In Revelations 4:8 8 Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying: “‘Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come.” Luke 18:1-8 (Jesus tells us to pray continually) 1 Then he told them a parable about the need to pray continually and never lose heart. 2 'There was a judge in a certain town,' he said, 'who had neither fear of God nor respect for anyone. 3 In the same town there was also a widow who kept on coming to him and saying, "I want justice from you against my enemy!" 4 For a long time he refused, but at last he said to himself, "Even though I have neither fear of God nor respect for any human person, 5 I must give this widow her just rights since she keeps pestering me, or she will come and slap me in the face." ' 6 And the Lord said, 'You notice what the unjust judge has to say? 7 Now, will not God see justice done to his elect if they keep calling to him day and night even though he still delays to help them? 8 I promise you, he will see justice done to them, and done speedily. But when the Son of man comes, will he find any faith on earth?'

@margaretoconnor7077

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@hglundahl : Jesus accepts the prayers and petitions of Mary and the saints: ➨ INTERCESSION OF MARY & THE SAINTS IN THE BIBLE AND PROOF THAT THEY ARE NOT AMONG THE DEAD: ... The Protestant claim that we are forbidden to speak to / pray to Mary and the saints is NOWHERE in the Bible. In fact, the following scriptures were copied directly from the Protestant version of the Bible: ... ➨INTERCESSION of a holy person on our behalf: ● JOB 42:8 8 Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams, and GO TO MY SERVANT JOB, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and MY SERVANT Job SHALL PRAY FOR YOU, FOR I WILL ACCEPT HIS PRAYER NOT TO DEAL WITH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR FOLLY; for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has. ➨INTERCESSION of MARY: At the wedding feast at Cana, it was Mary who asked Jesus to help the wedding party. ➨INTERCESSION OF THE SAINTS: Rev 5:8 The prayers of the Saints are offered to Jesus the lamb. ➨ JOHN 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. ➨The KING Honours his mother's request: ● 1 KINGS 2:20: Then she said, “I have one small request to make of you; do not refuse me.” And the king said to her, “Make your request, my mother, for I will not refuse you.” (Jesus is the Greatest King and he also honours his mother's requests) ➨SAINTS ARE ALIVE IN CHRIST AND SHARE IN HIS RESSURRECTION: ● LUKE 23 v 39-43...Jesus told the good thief "today you will be with me in paradise" ● REV 19 v 14...when Jesus returns he will be accompanied by his heavenly armies of saints. ● 2 COR 5 v 8...Paul tells us that to be absent with the body is to be with the Lord. ● JOHN 11 v 25-26...Jesus said I am the ressurrection and the life, he who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives, believing in me will never die. ● MATTHEW 27: 52 -53: When Jesus was raised from the dead Many were raised up with him. 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. ● LUKE 1619-30 The story of the rich man and Lazarus show The Rich man, Lazarus and Abraham, all concious and interacting with each other even though they have physically died. ● LUKE 9:30-31 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias: 31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem. (Moses & Elijah were alive, and were yalking with Jesus) ● REV 6:10 The souls of the martyrs are before the throne of God, crying out for justice. (they are conscious and actively petitioning God) ● HEB 12:1-3 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, ● MATT 17:1-13 ...At the Transformation of Jesus, he is seen speaking to Moses and Elijah, further showing that Holy ones of God are not among the dead. ➨HONOURING MARY: LUKE 1:48: All generations will call Mary Blessed. We Catholics are the ones who call her the BLESSED Virgin Mary and treat her accordingly. ➨NOWHERE does the bible permit protestants (or anyone else) to Scrutinize & monitor the prayers of other people, nor to judge their sincerity or their salvation. Mary, the Ark as Revealed in Mary’s Visit to Elizabeth. Golden Box: (Ark of the Old Covenant) The ark travelled to the house of Obed-Edom in the hill country of Judea (2 Sam. 6:1-11). Mary: (Ark of the New Covenant) Mary travelled to the house of Elizabeth and Zechariah in the hill country of Judea (Luke 1:39) Golden Box: (Ark of the Old Covenant) Dressed as a priest, David danced and leapt in front of the ark (2 Sam. 6:14) Mary: (Ark of the New Covenant) John the Baptist - of priestly lineage - leapt in his mother’s womb at the approach of Mary (Luke 1:41) Golden Box: (Ark of the Old Covenant) David asks, “How can the ark of the Lord come to me?” (2 Sam. 6:9). Mary: (Ark of the New Covenant) Elizabeth asks, “Why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?” (Luke 1:43). Golden Box: (Ark of the Old Covenant) David shouts in the presence of the ark (2 Sam.6:15) Mary: (Ark of the New Covenant) Elizabeth “exclaimed with a loud cry” in the presence of the Mary (Luke 1:42). Golden Box: (Ark of the Old Covenant) The ark remained in the house of Obed-Edom for three months (2 Sam. 6:11). Mary: (Ark of the New Covenant) Mary remained in the house of Elizabeth for three months (Luke 1:56). Golden Box: (Ark of the Old Covenant) The house of Obed-Edom was blessed by the presence of the ark (2 Sam. 6:11). Mary: (Ark of the New Covenant) The word blessed is used three times; surely the house was blessed by God (Luke 1:39-45). Golden Box: (Ark of the Old Covenant) The ark returns to its home and ends up in Jerusalem, where God’s presence and glory is revealed in the temple (2 Sam. 6:12; 1 Kgs. 8:9-11). Mary: (Ark of the New Covenant) Mary returns home and eventually ends up in Jerusalem, where she presents God incarnate in the temple (Luke 1:56; 2:21-22). Mary as the Ark Revealed by Items inside the Ark (Inside the Ark of the Old Covenant) The stone tablets of the law - the word of God inscribed on stone. (Inside Mary, Ark of the New Covenant) The body of Jesus Christ - the word of God in the flesh. (Inside the Ark of the Old Covenant) The urn filled with manna from the wilderness - the miraculous bread come down from heaven. (Inside Mary, Ark of the New Covenant) The womb containing Jesus, the bread of life come down from heaven (John 6:41) (Inside the Ark of the Old Covenant) The rod of Aaron that budded to prove and defend the true high priest. (Inside Mary, Ark of the New Covenant) The actual and eternal High Priest.

@margaretoconnor7077

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@hglundahl : Mary was saved from sin: Mary was saved from sin by receiving the grace to be preserved from it. But she was still saved. Only Mary is given the name “full of grace” and in the perfect tense, indicating that this permanent state of Mary was completed. St. Luke uses the perfect passive participle, kekaritomene, as his “name” for Mary. This word literally means “she who has been graced” in a completed sense. This verbal adjective, “graced,” is not just describing a simple past action. Greek has another tense for that. The perfect tense is used to indicate that an action has been completed in the past resulting in a present state of being. “Full of grace” is Mary’s name. So what does it tell us about Mary? Well, the average Christian is not completed in grace and in a permanent sense (see Phil. 3:8-12). But according to the angel, Mary is. You and I sin, not because of grace, but because of a lack of grace, or a lack of our cooperation with grace, in our lives. This greeting of the angel is one clue into the unique character and calling of the Mother of God. Only Mary is given the name “full of grace” and in the perfect tense, indicating that this permanent state of Mary was completed. Jesus saved Mother Mary in a unique way, by preventing at the moment of her conception, free from being stained with original sin. Now, we do understand that the stain of original sin is inherited, passed on to every human being. By having Mary free of the stain of original sin, IT COULD NOT BE PASSED ON TO JESUS. Hence, Jesus did not inherit original sin, and was free of the stain of original sin. Not only that, God does not dwell in sin, so Jesus dwelled in the sinless, pure body of Blessed Mary. Immaculate means: free from spot or stain; spotlessly clean: free from moral blemish or impurity; pure. Eve was created sinless, pure, full of grace and good. Yet she said NO to God and disobeyed as did Adam. Thereby bringing death into the world and the inherited stain of original sin Mary too, was created "immaculate", full of grace, and pure and sinless. She had the choice to say NO, but with complete faith said YES to God. Her yes brought LIFE into the world (through Jesus and He conquered death). Mary, by her "yes" to God, through the Angel Gabriel, participated in the Redemptive act of Jesus. She was free to say "no" to God, just as Eve (and Adam) freely chose to say "no" to God. That is why she is also called Co-redemptrix. It is not saying Mary redeemed us (that alone is what Christ did by His dying for our redemption). "Co" means together, joining, such as a "co-worker ", "co-star", for example: a movie star is the main character of a scene, movie, and the supporting actors, are "co-stars", without whom there would be no movie! That is Mary's title, and rightly so, for by her "yes", fully trusting and believing in God, she participated in the Redemption of mankind. Jesus is the STAR, while she is the Co-star. Yes, Christ did give Mary as our Mother. St. John the Apostle became Mary's son, who cared for and protected her. When Jesus gave Mary as John's mother, He used "woman", thereby having double meaning. Not only did Jesus give Mary as mother to John, but this also meant as "woman", she is Mother of the Church. For we Christians are the "adopted" brothers and sisters of Jesus, (as Scripture tells us) and that makes Mary our beloved Mother. Mary the mother of God Jesus is one Divine person with two nature's (God nature and human nature),He's not a divine person & a human person separately. If you are saying Mary gave birth to only the man then you are either denying the Divinity of Jesus or you are saying Jesus is 2 persons which would make 4 persons in the Trinity. Mary is not the mother of the Trinity she is the mother of the Second person of the Trinity (Jesus, the second person of the Trinity, is the only one who became incarnate) Mary gave birth to Jesus. Mary gave birth to Jesus' body and soul composit; she didn't give birth to a soulless body! she didn't create the soul; just as your mother didn't create your soul but your mother gave birth to you a person, both body and soul (not a soulless body). Mary gave birth to a person with the (essence) nature of Divine. Therefore we can call Mary the mother of God, not mother meaning that she created. In the garden of Eden Satan overthrew both the man and the woman, (Adam & Eve). therefore it needs both man and woman to redeem humanity from Satan. Both (Jesus and Mary) for redemption. John 1:1-2: “In the beginning was Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. All things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.” And then in verse 14 it says “And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.” Well, how was he made flesh? He was born of the Virgin Mary. So what we have here is almighty God was born of the Blessed Virgin Mary, which means Mary necessarily is the mother of God. Why does Jesus always call Mary "Woman?" While it might sound strange to us in the contemporary world where such an address would be considered rude, in the language and custom of the time it was actually a respectful way to address someone. It is unusual in that Jesus addresses his mother in this rather impersonal (though polite) address. However, this could be simply because mere biological connection to Jesus is of little importance (Matt. 12:46-50, Luke 8:19-21). What is important about Mary is that she is the new Eve; she is the one who says yes to God, whereas the first Eve said no. The first Eve was called “woman” (Gen. 2:22) as is Mary, both at the beginning of Jesus’ ministry (John 2:4) and at the end (John 19:26). The title is both respectful and theologically important in revealing Mary’s role in salvation history.

I've worshipped with Baptists, Catholics, and self proclaimed Protestants. I believe all these understandings contain truth, if imperfect.

@margaretoconnor7077

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@josiahkronk6846: Baptist's are Protestant

@josiahkronk6846

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@@margaretoconnor7077 Baptist comes from camel hair John the Baptist, not protesting Catholicism.

@Pitiedowl

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@@josiahkronk6846100% prots bro

None of those were stupid... If you replace the word Protestants with Protestantism (as no one can pin down what Protestants believe): 1. True-ish: JW, SDA, LDS are not Christian 2. True: Protestantism is heresy 3. True: If it respected history, then why the protest?

@olhickory9815

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1. Your typical American Protestant, whether they be Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, or whatever may be, all profess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, and have gone to spread the good news. Ironically, this point could be put on catholics, but more on that in point 2 2. Protestants value the word of God. Although it is like you said, that there is no singular protestant doctrine, there is a broad inclination to Sola Scriptura in some form or another. No matter what the church, all the Protestant churches I've been to have made Holy Scripture the key focus. Not to say they're perfect, I wish they would not interject with personal stories and instead focus on Jesus and the word of God. Yet Catholics, such as Mr. Holdsworth, seem to rarely point to scripture. I honestly would be a Catholic if they stopped bowing to The Pope so much(Perhaps a stupid argument of Protestants?) and more focus on the word of God. I understand perspectives of Saints have merit, but who has more merit than The Almighty himself? Isn't that the point of Worship, To Worship The Lord? 3. We respect history because we know of the 95 issues Martin Luther brought up about corruption in the Church. We know how the Catholic Church has gone off the rails in recent years. At least with Protestants, you can recognizably understand there are good sections and bad sections. Yet with Catholics they are supposed to be united, yet oddly seem more divided than Protestants at times. It seems in identifying the problems of The Catholic Church I've also found problems in The Protestant Churches. I truly wish we could all unite in Jesus Christ, perhaps a renewed Catholic Church, akin to the old Church; Steadfast in the faith, filled with saints, loving, charitable, preaching the word of God. In fact there's some parts of The Catholic Church I do like; Music that calls to God and harmonizes my spirit with The Holy Spirit, dress and ceremony that truly bring me closer to The Lord, a grand tradition of Charity, a history of inspiring all European men to fight for Civilization, from Frenchmen at The Battle of Tours, to The Winged Hussars of Poland at The Siege of Vienna. When The Catholic Church is a unifying force, it truly unifies us to become Christlike in unity and strength. Further, my Father and Mother both have Catholic roots. I love Tradition and Heritage, it would make all of the sense in the world to convert, but for the fact I am spiritually at home, The Baptist church in my case. I want to return, that rebellion be no more, save for the old home's degradation and rot. Perhaps that's part of the problem, Christians don't all have a home they can singularly point at. Well, at least on Earth. Praise God, that I'm saved as you are, and that we'll one day join together in Heaven, singing songs to The Lord, all sin gone in our merriment. All divisions, quarrels, and strifes cease, united in Christ, respectful differences in blood and lineage, yet divided no more by doctrine or who we are individually. Perhaps we can work together on this vision. Someday, God willing, we'll come together again, imperfect while on Earth, yet one big happy family. Despite our differences, Grace and Peace be unto you from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. :D

@Troy-Moses

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@@olhickory9815 It is better to speak on Protestantism rather than an individual, as what you have written only applies to some. This is from an article online: _"About a third of evangelicals say Jesus was a “good teacher” but was not God, according to a LifeWay Research study created for Ligonier Ministries. Also, 65 percent of evangelicals believe “Jesus is the first and greatest being created by God” a statement that goes against the Bible’s teachings."_

@olhickory9815

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@@Troy-Moses I do agree that many self proclaiming Christians hold to unchristian theology and in effect aren't true Christians. However, there are many Protestants who do. Hence why you have to delineate which Protestant church you mean. It'd be like saying all Americans are the same. It just ain't so, you have some good old Americans, some meh Americans, and the bad ones. Some are genuine Christians, and some aren't. As I write this it's occurred to me this goes against what I said earlier to a certain degree. So I'm changing my stance somewhat, but the point still stands that you can't leave out a significant portion of Believers in Christ just because some who claim the name of Christian act un-christlike. It's why when I criticize The Catholic Church, I don't talk ad nauseum about 'muh priest touched a little boy' as if that's every Catholic everywhere. It's the fact that The Pope, who is the Leader of The Catholic Church on Earth, seems to go against God in many regards on a Theological basis. Genuine Catholics also seem to want to go against the current Pope. Seems to me like a kind of rebellion against 'church doctrine' but obviously y'all are sticking to the Teachings of Christ more than the ones who agree with The Pope's decisions 100%. Not a bad thing, sticking up for God's way. I'd argue there's really two types of Christian; Conservative and Liberal. Both in Theology and Politics, they broadly align like that, at least here in The USA. Liberals being looser with scripture and Christian teaching(They're especially prone to quoting one verse out of context that supposedly denies the Teachings of Christ). Whereas Conservatives tend to hold more closely to the Christian Truth. I can't deny that American Evangelicals are more Conservative and also answered that survey as you said, but there's another factor to this. That is the matter of Atheist influence upon the Church as a whole(Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox). Either watering down Church Teachings, or misappropriating false doctrine to The Church. Baptists and Evangelicals are better than certain Lutherans and Episcopals. Or that one "preacher" who claims Jesus and the devil ware on the same side and it's God who is against us. That's true heresy and downright of the antichrist. You can't tell me Catholics haven't also been affected by this atheist attack on The Body of Christ. It's less a matter of questions of relatively minor doctrine (I.E. Are we Predestined or have Free Will) but rather what are your views on Christ and The Christian way.

@carolynkimberly4021

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@@olhickory9815 We are not necessarily "saved". That's heresy. We all have the ability to turn away from God through sin and, if unrepentant, go to hell. Jesus and the Apostles told us what is necessary for salvation and it entails a lot more than an "altar call".

@olhickory9815

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@@carolynkimberly4021 Are you saying that when Jesus met Paul on the road to Damascus, and Paul worshipped him right away that he had a choice to overrule God? Are you saying that God doesn't have supreme authority? Are you saying that on The Cross when the one man by Jesus' side rebuked the other for doubting him, that when Jesus said "today you shall be with me in eternity" that that man could turn away before hand? Are you saying we have supreme authority over God? That's what that statement sounds like If you don't mean that and instead meant it's a hard road, of course it is. "Straight is the gate, and Narrow is the way, few there be that find it" There are some men who believe they are saved but they don't know what that means. Well, scripture says "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believe?" and "by grace and faith are ye saved, not of yourselves lest any man boast" "faith without works is dead" Might be what you retort to the above, yet is it really faith without works? It's just proclamation. Yet when what you call an "altar call" happens, then one is given a chance to publicly declare himself before God. As I have seen in my own life, all those who turn from him never really knew him in the first place, they're just fakes. They took his grace and love and threw it away. They made no change, they didn't repent. Salvation necessarily involves the whole. So yes, we are "necessarily saved" because without Christ we'd be damned to hellfire for eternity. Freely given, undeserved Grace from God, and the Faith to trust in him, that's what saves us. Peace and Grace to you brother. The Love of God be with you.

Nice

I am not a Roman Catholic, nor do I consider myself Protestant (though RCs might). So I appreciate you gracefully explaining this. I believe we all as Christians are The Church and that God knows his sheep. Anything beyond that statement that aims to qualify it, such as "yes but you are in error about...." should not be used to be intentionally divisive, which is heresy. I could see how Catholics could consider Protestants heretics, but despite their errors, they just don't consider the Roman Catholic to be the true Church, and that is most often based on their interpretation of scripture (which if you dismiss as arrogant, fails to convict of genuine belief) or influence from others that have mistaught them about Catholicism. To demonstrate the dilemma, if RCs were to assume I am Protestant AND heretical, assume for sake of argument that I repent and say, "I want to be Catholic" but genuinely can't answer why it should be Roman or Eastern. The test and challenge of our unity as a church is covered in 1 John chapters 3-4. We must not tolerate the spirit of antichrist, nor partner with it. But if we want to argue about the bride, we should instead focus on the groom, then love his bride. If we don't know for certain, we should all still act like honored guests.

Protestant here. Very thankful for the last explanation, because that is exactly the claim that I would make. The Catholic Church has changed in such significant ways, and I would argue in ways that can't be argued to be legitimate accretions/doctrinal developments, to a point where I do not believe that it can be said to be holding to the original apostolic deposit of the faith.

I am baptist and as the Bible says you put your faith in Christ except him as your lord and savior, repent then be baptized partake in communion, YOU ARE SAVED! The devil try’s to drive a wedge between us Christians but we need to stick together I love you all and may God bless all of you!

12:25 Yes, there are certainly Protestant academics who have a much better grasp of history than what I just mentioned. In return, them staying Protestant is much more likely to be involved in small and nearly peevish distinctions. Do you recall "I believe in Purgatory, but not the Romish doctrine of Purgatory" by CSL (quoted from memory, I'll have to ask William O'Flaherty about the exact quote)? How could he come up with thinking the painful devotional cards are dogmatised above Dante's account, if he hadn't had some kind of peevishness in rejecting Catholicism? Let's hope it didn't amount to full blown responsability, otherwise a certain other book by O'Flaherty than "The Misquotable C. S. Lewis" might have a painfully apt title ...

@hglundahl

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I can mention I have a debt to Caesarius Cavallin on Mariology and Synergism ... but Caesarius Cavallin has since then converted.

@hglundahl

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@YAJUN YUAN Purgatory happens between particular judgement and soul getting to Heaven, usually both prior to Resurrection. Your individual eschatology is not that of the Church that Christ founded.

@hglundahl

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@YAJUN YUAN Orthodox don't uniformly deny Purgatory. Russians tend to believe in airy toll houses and Mark of Ephesus considered prayers for the dead worked by God applying them backwards to the deceased person's dying moments. Dante's view, which C. S. Lewis endorsed, was as much as any devotion cards precisely about expiating remaining venial sins or temporal penalties for repented mortal ones after death. I may or may not watch a video of that title, but I certainly know that II Maccabees 12 indicates we should pray for the dead, and as this was a common Jewish practise since then, it is not even material that you deny canonicity of Maccabees, Jesus would have known about the practise and He did not oppose it. That equals an endorsement from Him, and we have St. Paul praying for the soul of Onesimus.

@hglundahl

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@YAJUN YUAN As I said, this depends. What you said basically holds of Mark of Ephesus, but not of all Russian Orthodox. These have, instead of purgatory, basically a 40 days intermediate state before judgement, if I get them right. Souls passing up to God must pass through a harrassment of demons trying to hold them back, by their earthly attachments, and for this the souls often need prayers. When one prays for the dead, there are different things one could be praying for. Getting damned souls out of damnation is obviously a no no as both Catholics and Orthodox agree. But in the practise, both Catholics and Orthodox do pray for the dead. So do if I get it right, Copts, Armenians and Assyrians (Monophysites and Nestorians).

@hglundahl

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​@YAJUN YUAN Here is a quote from Ethiopian Orthodox, that is non-Chalcedonians, Copts: _"The Coptic Orthodox Church rejects the notion of purgatory. This doctrine, which was first formulated in the 12th century by Roman Catholic theologians, is an attempt to explain the residual debt caused by sin prior to the Second Coming. This purgatory is supposed to make the dead clean before the Judgement Seat"_ This is a misunderstanding of Catholic doctrine. _"and satisfied before entering the Kingdom of Heaven."_ More like clean before entering Heaven. _"This theology is in opposition to the Orthodox doctrine of salvation, which is a process-oriented view."_ Sounds like they could believe in some kind of purgatory after all. _"In addition, Orthodox theology does not believe in quantifiable sin or grace and does not consider any “satisfaction” for sin."_ _"Unlike Catholic doctrine, the Orthodox Church has never quantified the length of time a soul spends in purgatory. By contrast, Catholic indulgences were precise, allowing people to earn quarantine (forty days), one year, or forty years in Purgatory."_ It starts to look like their rejection is about secondary things. So is the following: _"Catholic sources also describe the purgatory experience as material fire, a notion that contradicts Orthodox teaching."_ I would like to know their view on the fire of the damned ... St. Augustine insists that it is material. Worms are metaphors, but fire material. Of the two errors, taking worms materially is less bad than taking fire metaphorically. Either way, yes, you find a material fire in sources like Pope St. Gregory, in his dialogues, and in St. Thomas Aquinas, but I don't think that was defined.

I sit in a Novis Ordo parish where it feels like I'm surrounded by protest-ants. Actually I am! A number of people around me go to Lutheran church with their spouse one Sunday and Mass the next back and forth and they don't seem to know the difference. And for twenty years of this through many priests it's never been addressed that anyone can tell. The only solution I can see is to start a two hour commute to an SSPX chapel.

Although I disagree with a few things you say regarding "Catholicism" and "the church" as a Protestant I greatly appreciate your charity towards Protestant/Protestantism here. More Catholics should follow suit in their online discourse towards Protestantism with your love and charity.

Idk man it seems like the church fathers meant something by "there is no salvation outside the church" than the current church means by it. Which seems to call in to question the whole "true now and forever" element of dogma

Thanks for making this video. I'm a nondenominational Christian so I guess that puts me in the category of Protestant, but I don't really identify as Protestant. I don't accept Calvin's teaching although I think the TULIP acronym is an interesting invention, and I think all these ideas are part of the necessary conversations that we all should have as Christians.

Thank you for some good thoughts, and for your charity. I understand what you're attempting when you try to soften the accusations of heresy, but ultimately I think we need to recognize that there are certain divisions which will go unresolved in this life, and that excommunications have often been abused. Just at Vatican II the mutual excommunications between the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches were lifted. What changed? Are they suddenly Christians again? What were they for the past thousand years? This is why confessional Lutherans (as I am) draw a distinction between visible church bodies, with their weeds among wheat, and the invisible church, which can be found "wherever the Gospel is preached in truth and purity and the Sacraments are rightly administered." Because of this, I can mark and avoid the many false teachings in visible church bodies all around, but I can also find people who are truly "brothers and sisters in Christ" in many places. In all cases, Jesus teaches us to love, even our enemies. I don't mind being called a heretic by the Pope when his anathemas contradict Scripture. I once heard a Roman Catholic scholar declare that it turns out Luther did only teach as the church fathers did before him (which was always his claim) and that Lutherans could be welcomed back if they'd only submit to the Pope. That one's stuck with me.

@atrifle8364

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I suspect either one of us could go point by point through the Council of Trent, which was only declaring what it had taught Luther when he had deviated. The Orthodox who separated at around 1000 AD can confirm the theology. Luther was not teaching the historical teaching and it only takes an honest read of parts of the New Testament to realize that. James 2 stands out as "What was he thinking?" on that point. That one supposedly Catholic scholar who did not do his research or clearly had no idea what Lutheranism taught said something silly about obedience to the Pope does not make it true. The issue of Luther, was not submitting to the pope as much as it was that a bunch of heretical teachings made obedience to the pope impossible. At least one reading of Luther's original material (which I would encourage you to do) highlights his inability to regard with pope with any feelings of charity. Meanwhile, Catholicism does acknowledge an invisible Church. That's how Protestants are saved, but it is not preferred or normal method of salvation. The catechism has information on it on all this. That's why you are "separated brethren" and not a differing religion. Further, as private observation, those Protestants able to have back and forth conversations like this might be extreme jeopardy for not acting on the truth. The catechism does come right out and say if you "know the Catholic Church" and refuse to join you might lose salvation. How much Protestants know is entirely for God to judge. As for the mutual rescinding of ancient ex-communications, it seems to have been a fad mid-20th century to encourage reunification. Jesus prayed for unity in His followers, so it's a worthy cause. But if the Orthodox were serious about reunification they would have not bothered with formally rescinding the ex-communication, because they had no such power to issue it to begin with. It's nice that it happened, but no reunification is on the horizon at this point, as far as I know.

I'm glad that you mentioned that heresy is always a form of specialization. The Church is catholic (among other reasons) because it treasures the 'entire' deposit of faith.

It would be interesting to see you do a video on things devout Catholics rarely know that would make us material heretics! I think the 'heresy' of Protestantism becomes of growing frustration to the devout Catholic as, at the end of the day, it *can* lead these souls and others to Hell. It's saddening and frustrating as Protestantism has seeped into Western Culture and spread Moral Relativism like wild fire.

Hi Brian It seems the proposition of this video is: the proper Christian church is... Briefly the church is individuals like cells that make the body. While grouped as liver, kidney, muscle etc. to make a human; Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox etc. make the Church. Why? Eph 1:13 "...in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise" On YOUR belief, and by Act of God, you were begotten. You and I are individual Christians and our earnest of the Holy Spirit "is portable". You and I are Christians regardless of fellowship choice or corporate hierarchy. Best wishes my brother in Christ. Doug Roberts

You often quote Vatican 2 as a source for Catholic doctrine. As a former Protestant, i was happy to hear the document acknowledged Protestants as christian . I am suspect of a document that caused so much horrible artistic fallout. I am an artist and enjoy many commissions from my newly adopted church. Its sadly ironic Catholic iconoclasts in the early 60s destroyed or removed beautiful statues, much like the reformers did in the 17th century. Your opening theme , i believe,was written by Paul Jernberg, a musician who is trying to return the sublime to the liturgy, whereas Vatican 2 opened the floodgates of mediocrity both in Catholic music and art. "By their fruits ye shall know them." The fruit of Vatican 2 isn't pretty.

How was this "self-deprecating"? It seemed like it was a pattern of, "we shouldn't say this but here's why you're wrong to take it that way".

I worked for a gentleman who didn't understand why there were so many different Protestant denominations. He thought it made no sense that an intersection could have three Protestant churches on three corners, and a little storefront church down the street. He thought the various Protestant churches and non-denominational churches should merge and locate congregations like the Roman Catholic Church. That shows how Catholics don't understand Protestant history, such as Wesley's break with the Church of England, or how Reformed denominations are so different from the various Lutheran sects.

Looking at your channel I suspect I disagree with you on a lot, but I really like your intro where you call for self reflection and humility. That’s something that Christ called us to do, but often we allow ego to blind us to the truth we ought to be serving

I am a Protestant and former subscriber of Brian’s, but I still watch him as his videos pop up on my feed. This is the most generous I have seen Brian towards Protestants, and I do appreciate the effort. I’m not bothered by accusations of heresy, but maybe that makes me a “happy heretic”. Brian does well to present the variant readings of history, and mainline Protestants don’t see Protestant Christianity as a departure from the catholic faith. Protestants understand Protestantism as continuous with early Christianity, but a departure from medieval Catholicism, and there is an enormous difference between those two things. The difficult thing for Catholics is this: when they get to heaven, they will find Protestants there with them. And this will confuse many Catholics in heaven, because according to official Catholic doctrine, this shouldn’t be possible. But I most certainly assure you, it is the reality. I expect, however, that none of us will care when we are there. We will be delighted to see each other. I applaud the efforts of any Catholics to be generous in their assessments of Protestant Christianity, and I encourage my Protestant brothers and sisters to be similarly generous in their assessments of Catholicism. See you in heaven, Brian.

@markpugner9716

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> The difficult thing for Catholics is this: when they get to heaven, they will find Protestants there with them. And this will confuse many Catholics in heaven, because according to official Catholic doctrine, this shouldn’t be possible. That is not Catholic doctrine. But, if we still think in less-than-perfect ways "up" there, I agree that it will confuse many Catholics.

I would maintain that there are lots of Protestants who very much identify with the “reformers” and their cause. I was one of them, but am now Catholic.

@truthamazing5027

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Hi stupid catholics. How on earth is Mary a perpetual virgin after Joseph consummated their marriage and she had many children after Jesus? Matthew 1:24-25 When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus. Matthew 13:55 “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?

Points 2 and 3 are partially contradictory. You claimed that protestants could not be heretics in part because of historical ignorance for point 2 and then of course that was the no-no in point 3. As for point 1, we can judge how Christian someone's beliefs are by how they conform to the Nicene Creed. Honestly think you missed the mark with this one overall.

@carolynkimberly4021

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I would include the Apostles Creed: "I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Holy Catholic Church, the Communion of Saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting".

@andrewkelley8099

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The points are good overall as generalizations. Many protestants know history well and have chosen to be non Catholic explicitly, think the baptist homeschooler type. Many protestants don't have a grasp of church history and aren't as culpable. Think seeker friendly megachurches that are very wide and an inch deep in their theology. Both are very common in America. But yes those two are contradictory if we're talking about individual people. @carolyn kimberly Many protestants believe they are fully in line with early church creeds. They just take "catholic apostolic" to mean basically "interdenominational successor to Christ's teaching." My first exposure to the big creeds was from protestants.

Well said. When Catholics and Protestants (and Orthodox) stand before Christwe all hear "Well done my good and faithful servant" we will realise we took ourselves and our doctrines way more seriously than we should have, instead of loving our Lord and being known for our love for one another.

@camp5607

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I don’t understand why Catholics pray to Mary and saints when no one ever in the Bible ever prayed to anyone but God.

@monkofwar

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Bullcrap. If you believe this, then "well done my good and faithful servant" is not what you will hear.

3:58 Magisterium: Pope Pius IX stated: *“He who abandons the Chair of Peter on which the Church is founded, is falsely persuaded that he is in the Church of Christ”* (Quartus supra of January 6 1873, n. 8). In the Syllabus of Modern Errors, _the proposition that Protestantism is nothing more than another form of the same true Christian religion_ was specifically condemned (Pius IX, n.18). Leo XIII makes it plain that separated members cannot belong to the same body: *“So long as the member was on the body, it lived; separated, it lost its life. Thus the man, so long as he lives on the body of the [Catholic] Church, he is a Christian; separated from her, he becomes a heretic”* (Encyclical Satis cognitum of June 29, 1896). So, one can presume this or that individual Protestant whom ones knows to be ignorant to make an attempt to be Christian, but one should acknowledge the attempt is failed.

@hglundahl

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Credits for quotes : _Please, Don’t Call Protestants Christians,_ Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.

7:28 Theology may certainly be splendid, but the Catholic Church traditionally claims that for all that splendour, it is possible by human means, aided by graces not opposed, to identify the Church Christ founded. You do not have to have a PhD in theology to be responsible for not being Catholic or for being Catholic. And you do not have to have a PhD in theology to be responsible for not admitting or for admitting that Young Earth Creationism is ultimately part of the Catholic faith. Yes, this means Pius XII was a lazy watchdog, like Honorius insufficiently warning against Monothelism.

As a convert I can say I have heard most of the them

Jesus was a Jewish evangelical Protestant: He evangelized everywhere He went, and He protested the humanistic tradition of priests in His time. Nothing has changed. My main issue with Catholics is their rejection of Scripture and replacing apostolic tradition with humanistic ones. And I am persuaded that if not for secular government, papal Rome would still be martyring Christians.

I'd like to hear from Protestants as to what sources they use, in studying "Church History." In other words, where does your knowledge of ''Church History'' come from?

@georgepierson4920

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Answer: Satan.

@truthamazing5027

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Hi stupid catholics. How on earth is Mary a perpetual virgin after Joseph consummated their marriage and she had many children after Jesus? Matthew 1:24-25 When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus. Matthew 13:55 “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?

As ex-Lutheran, after becoming a catholic I started respecting new-evangelical movements more and more. I like that they pray and fast.

@truthamazing5027

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Stupid things catholics preach; The first reason that Mary’s perpetual virginity matters is that it is a question of truth, not opinion, and the fact is that the Church has unerringly defended the doctrine since its earliest days. Certainly the Church Fathers, for example, would not defend an untruth; veritas vos liberabit, after all. Mary is as much a virgin as your grandmother. Matthew 13:55 “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?

@theguardian6464

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@@truthamazing5027 you should research about who these so-called brothers and supposedly were... All sort of relatives were also called brothers-and sisters

@truthamazing5027

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@@theguardian6464 Next i bet you're gonna say Mary was a shit wife who did not perform her wifely duties. Matthew 1:24-25 24 When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. 25 But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.

@truthamazing5027

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@@theguardian6464 Nice try liar adelphos - a brother, whether born of the same two parents or only of the same father or mother, i bet you think mother also means mother in law Mary wasn't really Jesus biological mother as well? anepsios is the word for cousin used in the bible. The bible clearly differentiates between the two to avoid future liars like you corrupting the text

12:25 Revisited. I had said: In return, them staying Protestant is much more likely to be involved in small and nearly peevish distinctions. I mentioned CSL's view of Purgatory. Letters to Malcolm: Chiefly on Prayer, chapter 20, para. 7-10, pp. 108-109. "I believe in purgatory. Mind you, the Reformers had good reasons for throwing doubt on 'the Romish doctrine concerning Purgatory' as that Romish doctrine had then become... The right view returns magnificently in Newman's 'Dream'. There, if I remember it rightly, the saved soul, at the very foot of the throne, begs to be taken away and cleansed. It cannot bear for a moment longer, 'With its darkness to affront that light.' Religion has reclaimed Purgatory. Our souls demand Purgatory, don't they? Would it not break the heart if God said to us, 'It is true, my son, that your breath smells and your rags drip with mud and slime, but we are charitable here and no one will upbraid you with these things, nor draw away from you. Enter into the joy'? Should we not reply, 'With submission, sir, and if there is no objection, I'd rather be cleaned first.' 'It may hurt, you know' -- 'Even so, sir.'" Credits to -Larry Kuening- for spotting the full quote. EDIT : _Chuck Erikson_ Now, it is pretty obvious to me, CSL was nine tenths Catholic but stayed outside the Church for a one tenth Protestant view which was hardly that of the Reformers.

@truthamazing5027

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Hi stupid catholics. How on earth is Mary a perpetual virgin after Joseph consummated their marriage and she had many children after Jesus? Matthew 1:24-25 When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus. Matthew 13:55 “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?

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@@truthamazing5027 "Not until" is also translated as "not before." It _doesn't say_ he did "know her" afterwards. Mt 13 doesn't state that "James, Joseph, Simon and Judas" were sons of Mary. They were sons of St. Joseph from a previous marriage. All of them were older than Our Lord, and if James is mentioned first, he was actually second youngest, but is mentioned first because he behaved as a brother when Joseph died. Hence he's called "brother of God" (theadelphos).

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@@hglundahl Lol. Please go back to kindergarten. Your interpretation of scripture is exactly the opposite of what is read. If Joseph did not consummate the marriage they were not officially married, which would make the Bible false. They did not become one flesh thus not really married Can you show proof from scripture that Mary was the second wife? Only idiots talk without proof.

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@@truthamazing5027 A marriage can be officially valid simply because it is "ratum" even if it is not "ratum et consummatum" - basic RC answer on this one. _"Can you show proof from scripture that Mary was the second wife? Only idiots talk without proof."_ Only Protestants require truth to be from Scripture alone. Proto-Gospel of St. James. Now other things only _idiots_ do, this time, is using heavily different weights and measures (ok, crooks too, but that's just for others). Why would you believe one old text and disbelieve another? If it's a question of canonicity, that begs the question how you know canon. And if the answer is, as correctly it should be "by the Church" then the same Church also holds Proto-Gospel of St. James in at least some esteem. Another school even goes as far as to say the "brothers" were His cousins. Yes, Greek has another word for cousin and in the levirate perspective, a cousin might be a "brother" if there are no sibling brothers, even if "kinsman" is also used in that respect (Ruth). That's the opinion of St. Jerome (except the part on levirate, which is my defense of his opinion). But I think the Proto-Gospel of St. James is mentioned before St. Jerome came into the fray.

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@@hglundahl Lol. Ruth and Boaz were not siblings. If you are comparing Ruth and Boaz to Jesus and James it is clear how idiotic catholics are. Genesis 2:24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. You Catholics have perverted the marriage of Mary and Joseph to fit your perverse doctrine just like you pervert the idea of marriage between man and woman. "Criminalizing people with homosexual tendencies is an injustice.” “People with homosexual tendencies are children of God. God loves them. God accompanies them,” pope francis Children of God are those who follow after God and love His laws, not disobey and pervert them

12:09 The account of _Trail of Blood_ is not a persuasive account of history. It's a prime example of how ignorance of history is fostered. Other example in _The Forbidden Book,_ Jerome is supposed to have translated the Bible into Latin so as to keep the masses locked out from it. Latin didn't become incomprehensible to Romance speakers until 800 in Tours, where a non-Romance, far older, pronunciation of Latin, having been cultivated as a foreign language by Anglo-Saxons who were receiving it from Italy, two centuries earlier, was imposed as liturgic pronunciation. 13 years later, they drew the conclusion they had, from now on, need to translate or expose the Gospel and not just read it in Latin. AND, yes, there are LOTS of Protestants who really are sufficiently ignorant of history, both ecclesiastic and linguistic, to think I got this from a fanatic Catholic apologist who wasn't honest. I got it from pretty good linguists and historians, and I am the one who am applying it to Catholic apologetics. Ignorance of history is a real phenomenon. A parallel Church persecuted for 1260 years by the Inquisition which killed millions, who alone gave the Bible in vernacular, while for all of the 1260 years Latin was incomprehensible for common man, and this intriduced by people like St. Gregory the Great who wanted to make business in relics not very unlike the business in indulgences they attribute to Leo X _and Trent_ - all of this is very ignorant, except perhaps for a few with which it is deliberately dishonest. So, one of the more common excuses for those who are _not_ personally culpable of heresy is believing a faked history, which can only survive by ignorance of real history.

13:24 The comparison is not quite apt. You at 7 months, that's immature, as it was for me. The Church in the time of the Apostles was, however, the _prime_ of its maturity. Since then the Church has not matured, but declined. This is the fairly clear doctrine of St. Thomas Aquinas. I would say he (like Gavin Ortlund at times) was making the mistake of "the Mexican in Edinburgh" ... namely presuming that what wasn't mentioned wasn't there. It is true the Church can be expected to become narrower. Reject more previous "possible positions" as not possible. But the position retained has to be there from the start. AND if these guys were to define the case for their Church, in the light of Matthew 28:16-20, its theology had to be there from the start as well.

6:02 You have to be morally culpable. Yes, sure. _Some_ have not come across gruesome parts of Protestant theologies, like the back then Methodist endorsement for eugenics. And _some_ have not thought through what denying Mass as a sacrifice means for Church history. But on the other hand, some _have_ - so while you may hope for innocence on some individual cases, known to be untouched by modernist "responsibility" ideologies, known to be ignorant of history, you cannot presume this about Protestants as a whole group. If no one in the Anglican communion denied that Mass is a sacrifice, identic in essence to the Calvary sacrifice, in which therefore Christ redeems us, why are there still Anglicans? And if no one who was denying it were _responsable_ for it, one must presume all of them ignorant or all of them idiots.

Instead of Crusader you should put Tilly!

Expecting an award from। Martin Luther ?

I am undergoing Lutheran Catechesis and if anything, number 3 applies more to Catholics than Protestants. One can't claim that all Protestants are memorialists when it comes to the sacraments and claim to know history while being honest. The Marburg Colloquy was literally all about how the Protestants should see communion and Luther was in favor of real presence.

Here is a video where young Catholic women what traditional values when dating and in marriage - see CHRISTENDOM RISING 5 they know the Catholic faith.