"It is easier to build strong children, than to repair broken men." - Frederick Douglass

@myivyfindstore

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this. Bless you…

@stevendavis5095

2 жыл бұрын

Amen!!!

@jamesjazzy8040

2 жыл бұрын

Frederick Douglas grew up 4 minutes from my house here in Rochester New York... They have several beautiful statues around town of him....

@glowblank17

2 жыл бұрын

@@myivyfindstore, *GLAD they sh0t up the school 🤠!*

@moaninggimp7161

2 жыл бұрын

Blimey, so true

Gifting a gun to a teenager that is having problems everyday is just IRRESPONSIBLE.

@eckankar7756

2 жыл бұрын

What was their thought process buying him a handgun?? I can see buying him a puppy or a bicycle, but a hand gun??

@Vidchemy

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like they did a great job in raising one of Cawthorn (or is it Hawthorn)'s psychopathic monsters...

@user-qu6ij5sl1v

2 жыл бұрын

@@eckankar7756 dead right, my parents would never have gotten me a handgun as a child. A handgun simply has no serious utility for a child. Rifles and shotguns only for hunting

@marlinperkins6910

2 жыл бұрын

Not just a gun, it was a handgun. If you want to supply a potential mass shooter, giving him an easily concealable gun is what you would do.

@rain3743

2 жыл бұрын

Gifting a gun to any teenager is a bad idea. Their frontal lobe isn't even fully formed yet.

Am I the only person who is wondering how the school isn't on the hook for this too? They ALL had a meeting with the kid the day he had the gun in his backpack, demanded he get help but then just.... let him go back to class? Parents advocate for their kids. This isn't shocking. But the school 100% failed to protect the other students at that school when they didn't kick the kid out.

@jaimeperry7326

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrBluesMessiah Why are you so invested in this crazy opinion of yours ... It seems like it's almost personal to you ? Sad that those kids died but Michigan law blah, blah , blah ... It's pretty clear that you are misrepresenting Michigan law. WHY ? What is wrong with you ?

@kcbh24

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaimeperry7326 Why don't you look up Michigan law before calling people crazy?

@jaimeperry7326

2 жыл бұрын

@@kcbh24 There isn't a damn jury in this country that would prosecute a school official for calling the police in this scenario. If they had, 4 kids would still be alive today. Ask yourself and think hard about why you are arguing that it should have played out as it did. I hope you and the other guy quoting laws, never find yourself in a position to make a life or death decision like this case, you clearly aren't qualified.

@marisaJ1

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure the school had grounds to do anything else unless they had an indication that he posed an immediate danger to himself or others. Did that drawing prove that one way or another? I don't think so. It would have been different if they knew that he had a weapon on him or access to a weapon. This is something the parents should have told the school about in that meeting. In which case the school would have probably acted very differently. I guess it would depend on what the school actually knew. It seems that the parents knew that their child was unstable but were more worried about him not getting into trouble than what harm he might cause to himself or someone else. It's not a good idea to buy someone, especially a kid, with mental health or behavioural problems weapons.

@jaimeperry7326

2 жыл бұрын

@@marisaJ1 They send girls home everyday for dress code violations, a kid drawing violent death fantasies should have been out of school immediately.

Sad that it says “the thoughts won’t stop, help me” and yet the parents blew it off when they were shown this document. If that isn’t screaming for help I don’t know what is. That being said, he still deserves to be punished to the fullest extent of the law and so do his lousy parents! But this all could have been avoided.

@lemmeborrowthttop

2 жыл бұрын

Even tho the parents SUCK I DONT Care! My life got shitty should I kill people ?!

@wadestak

2 жыл бұрын

@@lemmeborrowthttop He also had a history of torturing animals and recently decapitated a baby bird and put its head in a jar, filled it with his own urine and placed it in the school’s bathroom. He was a killer in the making.

@tessiepinkman

2 жыл бұрын

I think the parents are more culpable than the kid in this one. EDIT: That being said, I still think he needs to be punished, HARD. But he still needs to get help. Real help. Help the parents didn't care enough to give him.

@wadestak

2 жыл бұрын

@@tessiepinkman His parents are being charged for being criminally negligent, while he is being charged for planning out his mass murder spree weeks in advance and deliberately aiming his handgun at the head and chest of several kids at close range.

@zach4832

2 жыл бұрын

@@lemmeborrowthttop I’m glad you’re not a sociopath then. He clearly is. Mental illness is very serious and it effects people different (clearly). The parents are at fault just as he is. That’s what happens when you as a parent hands over a lethal weapon to a depressed teen with sociopathic tendencies. Stop comparing yourself to someone with mental illness, it just doesn’t make sense and really isn’t funny.

Teaching your child he doesn't have to obey the rules, he just has to learn to not get caught. Says it all about their values.

@19stacymoore

2 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know if the parents of that black kid that shot up that school have been arrested?

@mikeparker7631

2 жыл бұрын

@@19stacymoore Of course they haven't...

@immertoll1

2 жыл бұрын

@@19stacymoore go ahead and politicize it.

@immertoll1

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeparker7631 go ahead and politicize it.

@19stacymoore

2 жыл бұрын

@@immertoll1, I haven’t politicized it they have.

Reckless and irresponsible parents are getting exactly what they deserve. Who in the right mind would buy a depressed 15 year old a handgun. Pure brilliance

@troyb.4101

2 жыл бұрын

I let my son shoot a rifle growing up , we live on a remote farm. I never let him shoot a pistol as I think it is to easy to have an accident with a pistol. A rifle is a lot safer, in my opinion. We always taught gun safety when target practicing, one at a time shoots while others watch. We would have several people shooting at the rifle range here. Most of us are Military Veterans . Safety first. Guns go into safes for the most part, Most of my guns rarely leave my safes anymore. One should buy a safe before buying any gun!

@coldchillin8382

2 жыл бұрын

@@troyb.4101 my friend is the same. I’m an Army vet and he’s a former Marine. He taught his daughters and his son at a young age how to use firearms particularly rifles and making sure they understand and respect the power that comes from it focusing on safety.

@jarethgar

2 жыл бұрын

@@troyb.4101 this is a great attitude troy

@Neo_politan05

2 жыл бұрын

I think we should blame the second amendment as even allowing citizens to posses weapons as majority of all crimes in the us are caused because of this.

@barbaragibson7120

2 жыл бұрын

I think you should be 18 and older and have mh assessment b4 anyone owns a gun! Because of stories like this you never know, still I don't find it ethical to buy a kid a gun even if they are mentally stable and live the country life! It's dangerous!

I’m so glad they are holding the parents responsible. What were they thinking buying this kid a gun when they knew that he was depressed?! I’m by no means anti-gun, but kids are not responsible enough and they’re not emotionally mature enough to be given firearms! Parents have been given a free pass in this country up until now. Parents these days don’t want anyone telling them how to raise their kids, so our society relies solely on the parents to make sure their kids can understand rules and consequences and can behave accordingly. It’s long past time that we start holding them 100% responsible for the actions of their children when they don’t. The actions of these parents turned, what could’ve just been, an depressed awkward kid who needed counseling into a killer. The responsibility for the deaths of those victims sits squarely on the shoulders of those parents.

@CurieBohr

2 жыл бұрын

and every parent with drugs in their home, even prescription, should go straight to jail should their children ever use them

@mycharmedunicorn8715

2 жыл бұрын

And every parent that their child is involved in a car accident with him/her driving causing injury or death should be prosecuted to the max for their little darlings actions outside if their sight.

@CurieBohr

2 жыл бұрын

Every parent of a gang member or drug dealer, every kid that bullies, every kid that riots, etc. all their parents should go to jail

@rexman971

2 жыл бұрын

@@CurieBohr every kid that watched a r rated movie, their parents should go to prison and get the chair.

@hopelessromantic3786

2 жыл бұрын

none of these people have a serious defense so they're all just dogpiling strawman arguments like this is a reddit thread. That's embarrassing.

An Oxford parent whose children knew Ethan wrote this: “Ethan had problems but he also had many friends. He acted no differently that fateful day than he had in all the years that my OHS kids have known him. He gave a friendly fist bump to a fellow student just minutes before he walked into the bathroom and killed his first victim. His fellow classmates and friends had no idea. They talked to him daily.” Then she proceeded to talk about how the school didn’t know who left the bird head in the jar of piss in the bathroom (prosecutor reveals it was Ethan’s doing). Then she says the only people that saw a change in Ethan was his parents and knew of his depressive state.

@marciayoung1094

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe so but obviously something was going on he was a very disturbed young man and what parent would buy their child and 9 mm handgun I refuse counseling after seeing the drawing that the school showed his parents. I'm sorry I have no mercy for him and I definitely have no mercy for his parents who put a 9 mm in his hand that killed innocent children

@TheGreenTaco999

2 жыл бұрын

you didn't source. look up the video "School Shooter Suspect Posted Photo of Handgun Allegedly Used" by the channel "Inside Edition" at 0:46 kid who saw him that day reports that Cumb was "very depressed every day".

@wadestak

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGreenTaco999 Her name is Katherine Waymaster and the kid who fist bumped him happened during the afternoon around 12 Pm. He started shooting at 12:51 Pm.

@pissass.8675

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry but a fist bump and having friends isn't a reason to ignore the fact that they're a complete lunatic. Fym only ppl who saw a change in him were his parents his whole school been knew he was obsessed with guns and tortured animals

1:50 He needed what we all need. Coping skills rather than a gun for a present. My heart goes out to the victim's families.

@jennyvazquez1577

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly… 😞

@oceanrocks

2 жыл бұрын

Also, his parents knew their son was torturing animals for awhile and beheaded a little baby bird that he left in the jar and placed it in the school bathroom. Why would they give their son a gun as a Christmas present when they knew he was violent.. his parents are criminally negligent 100%.

@threefreaksonaleash6619

2 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@robertdahammer4850

2 жыл бұрын

@@oceanrocks Looks like the making of a serial killer.

@bradsanders6954

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertdahammer4850 Already a mass murderer,no where to go but down from there.

To summarize: Ethan was depressed, his only friend moved away, the family dog died. He was sending his mother disturbing texts and spiraling downwards. What would normal parents do? GET HIM HELP. What did they do? Engage in extramarital affairs and buy him a gun. Almost seems like buying him the gun was literally GIVING him the tool to commit suicide so they wouldn't have to deal with him. Unfortunately for them, he used it for mass murder. Now THEY get to pay for being horrible subhuman beings.

@anavillalta5774

2 жыл бұрын

Ethan was ENTITLED* Period! Look how he acted as soon as he was apprehended. "I want my lawyer!"

@antoniorivera8321

2 жыл бұрын

It’s horrible, depression makes people do unthinkable acts. I wish no one go through it

@oceanrocks

2 жыл бұрын

The court filing also states the parents knew their son was torturing animals, like birds and leaving the head of a baby bird in a jar. He brought the jar to the school and left it in a bathroom.

@asabovesobelow7981

2 жыл бұрын

@@anavillalta5774 EXACTLY

@fatbottombiker3038

2 жыл бұрын

You know I never thought about the suicide angle until now. That makes ALOT of sense for many reasons. It blows my mind to hear the backstory of the parents and what they were not doing to help their son. Why in the hell would anyone buy their deeply depressed and violent son a gun? I don’t get it.

Finally taking parents of school shooters to task. I have an extremely hard time believing that parents aren't negligible in all of these circumstances. I know occasionally there's a bad seed and no matter what nothing helps but when they've made zero effort they deserve prison.

@jamespatrick3462

2 жыл бұрын

Then so do ALL parents of all children that murder or rape. School shootings or mass murders aren't even a blip on the radar when it comes to causes of death for children.

They also clearly showed they’re willing and “able” to evade arrest so they’ll definitely try it again

@TheGreenTaco999

2 жыл бұрын

they were contacting their defense lawyers who were *trying* to contact the prosecutor to arrange a safe arrest. There's a reason the boy was made to wear a bullet proof vest in the court room. The prosecutor ignored contact with the defense lawyers and lied about that to the judge.

They seem to be so arrogant when they met school officials about their son. Why would you buy a gun for a depressed child.

@sherri-jean198

2 жыл бұрын

They lived on a farm and as we know hunting is kinda Normal out there..imma be a vegetarian again now...and tell me kids I don't make their choices

@oceanrocks

2 жыл бұрын

Court filing also says the parents knew their son tortured animals and decapitated a baby bird and put its head in a jar to place in the school’s bathroom.

@breann7913

2 жыл бұрын

@Joe Smith no a handgun would be used as protection on the farm from wild animals.

@MarleneAug2010

2 жыл бұрын

Stupid parents and probably those who scream about their gun rights.

@johnbravo9164

2 жыл бұрын

@Joe Smith Yes. some do, if the state they are in allows it

The signs were everywhere. With these school shootings parents definitely need to start being held as accountable as their child. And I’m glad that in this case they are.

@chalexen2862

2 жыл бұрын

This may sound controversial but there are some cases or excuses were parents don’t even see any signs at all. Elliot Rodger’s father is just one example. I agree that the Crumblies deserves to be punish base on their inaction but for some parents of the active shooters finding dangerous signs is not as easy as Ethan’s.

@kingofkingsmoonpie4075

2 жыл бұрын

Are you a therapist? Judge? Holocaust victim? Tell you what, 9 out of 10 school shootings was caused by kids bullying other kids. And that's the root cause. So in turn, if your child bullies another child, you should be held responsible for the trauma your child caused to the other. Right? Your child caused all the "signs" right.

@REY2000

2 жыл бұрын

Sins of the son, great idea. Why not stop there? If they get into a fight. Let’s charge the parents with assault too. I’m sure inner city parents will love this new standard.

@icymorena

2 жыл бұрын

@@REY2000 Y’all take it too far. Lol. If someone’s child is involved in a school shooting and murders several people, AND his parents seen the signs, do you not agree that the parents should be held accountable? Because that’s all my comment was saying. I never brought up fights. Ever.

@icymorena

2 жыл бұрын

@@chalexen2862 If the parents see the signs they should be held accountable. I’m going to reword my comment because people want to bring up other things, and are misreading what I said.

these parents are a disgrace, they allowed their child to do this. imagine gifting your unstable teenager a weapon or a teenager in the first place.

So terrible, and I love how the staff of the school are pushing parents and students to go back to school, like ik I would be traumatized and never would go back to that school

$11k behind on the mortgage is not because of 3 weeks in jail. Buying your son a gun when you can't pay the mortgage? It seems that these parents had some very major stress going on to make such poor choices.

@fauxque5057

2 жыл бұрын

Joe Biden's America we can't be evicting people while they are running their pandemic. Slowly they are easing up on the screws. Students are going to have to start paying their loans again. Only a matter of time before they turn the banks and land lords loose but not until after the midterms most likely

@marisela7825

2 жыл бұрын

That is still trying to make excuses for the parents! People have stress to deal with everyday! We all have problems! Above ANY situation should be your child! When you become a parent you SHOULD already know that regardless, your children need the most attention and must be properly cared for. Bad choices have consequences. It can't be an excuse or after thought!

@michaelhernandez7978

2 жыл бұрын

I just realized they totally wanted him to cap himself...

@sheiswhitney

2 жыл бұрын

But weren't they found with cash on them at the time of their capture? This sounds like a lot of excuses for negligent parents. They were anticipating on cashing out on a gofundme account when their son decided to commit su!cid3 but it didn't turn out that way.

@Jay-rg5mt

2 жыл бұрын

@@fauxque5057 eviction moratorium started before Biden clown. How do trump lovers just say stuff without thinking about it at all

Just because you can have kids, doesn't mean you should. Same thing applied to gun ownership. Piss poor parenting.

@lucasrem1870

2 жыл бұрын

Biden did nothing in 50 years!

@rog1046

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucasrem1870 are you serious, get a life

@Zurround

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe the law is different there but in MY state you cannot legally have tobacco, marijuana or beer or any other alcohol drink until you are TWENTY ONE YEARS OLD so how the hell can ANY fifteen year old be worthy of OWNING A GUN??

@lupediaz1666

2 жыл бұрын

And with irresponsible parents like those that's why abortions should be allowed and men should be required to have a vasectomy.

@lucasrem1870

2 жыл бұрын

@@rog1046 the local medic health system did not do anything, no signs, look at the parents, that school, that system!

This whole situation is so tragic and sad on all levels. I still hardly have words...

@TheGreenTaco999

2 жыл бұрын

actually you had 16 words

The problem is anyone can have kids and raise them however they think it’s okay… all good as long their is not innocent victims as results of their lack of judgement.

IF there was a chance that their son was contemplating suicide, why would they buy him a gun? LOCK 'EM DOWN!!!

@oceanrocks

2 жыл бұрын

Court filing also says the parents knew their son tortured animals and decapitated a baby bird and put its head in a jar to place in the school’s bathroom. They knew their son was dangerous.

@PR7-82

2 жыл бұрын

That why we call them the Crummy Crumbleys!

@marys3127

2 жыл бұрын

NO 15 year old, even a happy and stable one, should be handed a gun. And I am all for gun rights.

@dkennylee

2 жыл бұрын

@@marys3127 The kid want just handed the gun.

@enuphsayd9746

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for pointing that out. I was pondering on that text msg the mother sent.

As a mother, if I thought my son was suicidal, I wouldn't text him "don't do it". What kind of a mother doesn't phone or at least say something that shows emotion like "I love you and always want you in my world"

@littlemouse9900

2 жыл бұрын

My mom pulled me out of school and got me help when she found out I was feeling like that. School will always be there. Your mental health comes first.

@TT-xz5sy

2 жыл бұрын

She wanted him to do it, I think they were tired of him.

@meep3035

2 жыл бұрын

You’re telling me she should have said “I love you and always want you in my world” after he just murdered a bunch of people?

@eckankar7756

2 жыл бұрын

@@TT-xz5sy You know what, I never thought of that. I wonder if they did want him to kill himself.

@00Kristyna00

2 жыл бұрын

@@TT-xz5sy That's my gut feeling as well. They thought he was "just" going to kill himself with the gun...not shoot up the school and get them in trouble.

Since when is it left up to the parents whether or not a student is suspended. Most of the time parents find out when the school notifies them or high schooler is not attending.

Thank you all

Them asking for a 100,000 dollar bond means that they can afford that bond and get out. Screw that.

@cameronno6039

2 жыл бұрын

Screw them, but your argument is literally against the constitution. There are 2 questions that are required, IMO. 1. Are they a flight risk? 2. Are they a threat to others? I would argue no to both. They withdrew 4 grand to hide out for a few days. What can they reasonably do in America with 4 grand? They clearly don't have the resources to sustain being in jail and are likely already fired/ to be homeless upon release. This is a severe case, but it''s also a terrible aspect of our legal system.

@ryanbicknell2181

2 жыл бұрын

They ran and attempted to hide out in Detroit, yet you don't believe they are a flight risk. Running and hiding when you know law enforcement is looking for you sure sounds like a flight risk to me

@troyb.4101

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameronno6039 Their family killed several people, they are a flight risk, and have proven to be a threat to others. Number three on that list, they should be protected from the families they murdered, meaning keeping them in jail. Releasing them is almost certain for them to be exterminated. Homicides are are record levels , you don't murder several family members and live long afterwards. On the bright side releasing them would mean no trials needed .

@cameronno6039

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanbicknell2181 They had $4,000 and turned themselves in within 2 days from another interstate city. Yes, that is ominous, but they willingly surrendered without incident. I don't find it a big deal when there is so much financial burden they already have. Side note, the fact the DA turned to the news/media before speaking with the police about the arrest shows the lack of professionalism that led to their flee anyway. What new surprise is likely? If they can get $200k bond, what resources will they have after they run anyway? Do you really think it would take 200K to find them? That's the intent for the bail/bond.

@cameronno6039

2 жыл бұрын

@@troyb.4101 Name literally 1 thing showing them to be an active threat to anyone? Their kid did the shooting. They were negligent, but they've done nothing violent. Fear is way too rampant in this country. When I was in basic, a guy fired his rifle through his own head our first day at the range. My bink-mate was right behind him and saw everything. He was shaken and expressed to me his fear that the suicidal person could have killed him. I told him, the guy was suicidal, not homicidal and literally everyone can kill you daily. If you live in fear, it's a choice. Be cautious, but driving is the single biggest threat daily. At worst, they committed criminal manslaughter, which has to be proven, btw. The mechanism was via their son. Do you expect them to just become weapons dealers to random kids for crime now?

Regardless of your stance on the second amendment, one of the leading causes of death among teens is suicide. Don't buy your depressed teen a gun. This was wildly negligent on the part of the parents.

@email4664

2 жыл бұрын

They wanted him to 'Make his mark"

@violinhunter2

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe the kid was insured for 1 million dollars and they wanted him to kill himself so they could collect??? 😊

@UncleSamsDevil

2 жыл бұрын

Not illegal.

@violinhunter2

2 жыл бұрын

@@UncleSamsDevil haha - it is not illegal to have your toddler walk on the top ledge of a ten story building - he might fall and he might not. ...just make sure he's insured. 🙂

After being confronted with the drawing, while knowing the events of the prologue, and having knowledge they recently purchased him a firearm lays this squarely on the parents. The school can only straddle the line of public safety and individual rights so long. All the school had to work with was the failure of the parents to disclose the reality. The PARENTS should have taken him home and had him evaluated by medical staff. (Which would be a no-brainer were we to provide each other with universal healthcare.) Perhaps they feared another $12,000 in medical bills and rejected the idea outright? The US has nothing to be proud of. This is where our greed and apologia for preaching "profit, first / people, last", and even worse - codifying it into LAW! All while people sleep on steam grates and tents. Many of them veterans, sent to murder the poor of other nations so American corporations might dominate a new market. Pathetic and antithetical to all that "Christianity" claims to hold dear. I'm sure the greed and gun culture is really making Jesus proud.

Crumbly's crumble in front of the judge 🤣🤣🤣

The fact that they’re getting bail at all when they already tried to flee is unbelievable

@privatename2648

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you remember the NC woman that shot her coworker @ furniture plant, and fled with her husband, on the run for SIX MONTHS, TANGELA PARKER????? I just flipped learning they just got their bond reduced and get out, WTF????? Murder and fled and hiding out six months and they got her bond reduced???????

@somepeoplecanthandlethetruth

2 жыл бұрын

Liberal court system for you. Same type of people who let the man out who mowed down a Christmas parade.

@privatename2648

2 жыл бұрын

@@somepeoplecanthandlethetruth It's all so unpredictable though, another city/court and someone might have a ridiculously high bond for next to nothing, so fecking arbitrary! I hadn't heard about the parade, DAMN!

They are claiming they are not a flight risk BUT didn’t they flee and hideout in a warehouse? Of course they are a flight risk. No bail should even be offered.

@HalfNHalf.

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@vblackwell3347

2 жыл бұрын

It certainly looked like they were willing, if not anxious to abandon their son when he needed them more then ever in his life. Please yes, no bond for them!

@PR7-82

2 жыл бұрын

That's why we call them the Crummy Crumbleys!

@cidb.212

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, but they were hiding to protect themselves. They feared for their own safety. Pfffft!

@casanovafrankenstein8538

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

this is crazy those kids should still be here, the signs Ethan presented are concerning this could’ve been avoided if his parents owned up to him having issues he couldn’t gotten help also we need to blame who ever the hell sent him back to class after the reports of him being violent and drawing those inappropriate drawings on the day of the shooting

Since charging the parents, so when will the teachers and the counselor of the school be charged with involuntary manslaughter for not keeping the child out of the school and keeping other children safe, after so many instances and evidence of issues with the child? Knowing and most likely suggesting he needed counseling for his actions, comments, etc...

@erin6641

2 жыл бұрын

I know I'm for this story, but did the shooter, Ethan, kill himself, too??

They LITERALLY were fugitives prior to being apprehended. How in the world would they allow them out of jail before the trial? That's ridiculous.

@richardmourdock2719

2 жыл бұрын

A kid that did a school shooting in Texas less than 60 days ago (none killed but 4 injured) was bailed out and just got busted for violating the terms of his bail agreement! The question is why in the world the teacher and administration left the kid in school when they had all of the evidence presented here. They deserve to be charged.

@willie0704

2 жыл бұрын

They were not officially charged. They did nothing wrong.

@kelliintexas3575

2 жыл бұрын

THIS IS GEORGE SOROS DA'S IN ACTION.

@Pops180

2 жыл бұрын

Not really. Only the media said that they ran away. Its not like the police give you a heads up when a warrant is put out on you

@herbertadams8433

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pops180 The police told their lawyer they were wanted for questioning. Their lawyer said he talked to them, and they were coming in. The police told the lawyer they were issuing warrants for them. Their lawyer said he talked to them and they were going to turn themselves in. They took out all of their money from an ATM and fled the state. If that's not "running away" I really don't know what you think it means.

Should have turned yourselves in if you want leeway like that. You don’t get your bond dropped when you run

@howiescott5865

2 жыл бұрын

They must of thought they were in California...

@cameronno6039

2 жыл бұрын

@Jody Owen agreed. If they are deemed a flight risk, bond shouldn't be offered. If you offer it, you deem them reasonable, so a reasonable bond should be set. That is separate from the charges that are unlikely to stand as current. It seems a huge waste of taxes so far. But that's where we are in history.

@cameronno6039

2 жыл бұрын

@Jody Owen i don't know their laws either, but i find it difficult to believe setting an impossible bail is constitutionally legal. Also, i might pursue a judge only trial in their case. The jury will be tainted, as you mentioned. I expect a judge to be reasonable (but i admit, that isn't always the case)

@cameronno6039

2 жыл бұрын

@Jody Owen I'm mixed in the KR case. I think a charged, it never should have gone to trial. However, i think he was incorrectly charged. Legally, he was within his right to be there, but he was there as an agitator his actions leading up showed that (but those actions weren't allowed to be used). Regardless, as charged, i would have voted not guilty as well. Also, the Arbery murderers got exactly what they should have. I would argue Roddy was actually the most egregious one as he "angled his truck" at Ahmaud repeatedly. Still, these are jury trials we are discussing. Judge only trials may differ. Idk which is more likely, getting a single competent judge or getting a single open-minded juror.

@cameronno6039

2 жыл бұрын

@Jody Owen Arbery's murderers were over charged, but the felony murder charge was correct, as are the ensuing hate crime charges. Felony murder in GA is not the commonly discussed 1/2/3rd degrees. Further, intentionality can be derived instantaneously. They had no reason to do what they did and proved multiple times they were a threat to everyone with their vigilante provocation tactics. They committed felony assault and kidnapping. Regardless of intention, Arbery died. Death in the commission of a felony is the standard for felony murder in GA, regardless of intent. The neighbor was essential to the crime. He admitted multiple times to aiming his truck at Ahmaud and cornering him. If you are interested in the case, watch Legal Eagle discuss it, but also watch the actual trial video and review the written charges as they are written in that state. He was guilty of everything by the letter of the law. Again, I argue Ahmaud would be alive if not for Roddy. The number of charges is wrong though; I agree with that. 1 death shouldn't have 9 charges all with essentially life sentences. Still, they are guilty and one or three alone were sufficient. I also agree about KR as charged. However, he did set the events in place to commit murder. Obviously, he was also attacked at that time, so he got what he wanted in a legal loophole. The question needs to be better defined. When can you be the instigator and claim self-defense? I think that answer is very muddy.

I heard that back in the mid 2010s the parents would leave their son home alone numerous times while they were out drinking for hours.

Thanks 👍🧡♥️

This family is messed up. For the safety of community and their own safety they need to be behind bars.

@HenryBenaid

2 жыл бұрын

Only friend left. Family dog died. watching shooting videos. saying his life is useless and loces gun. man wtf??? saying the world is dead and blood everywhere. The parent should have helped the child instead they give the kid a gun. wow!!!!

@iamkimberlycrowe

2 жыл бұрын

@David Gonzalez They bought him the gun

@itwasntme3960

2 жыл бұрын

@David Gonzalez they basically put the murder weapon in their son's hand for him. The son has some serious issues and so do the parents. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

@annanderson7

2 жыл бұрын

@David Gonzalez see that’s the problem. The parents didn’t do anything, except buy him a gun.

@carriefox1146

2 жыл бұрын

@Albert boone your part of the American problem

I'm glad these parents are being charged. More parents need to be held responsible for actions of their children especially when neglect, abuse, and/or culpability are apparent.

@osvaldorubalcava9721

2 жыл бұрын

Damn every parent going to be locked up 😂

@jacobgarcia4188

2 жыл бұрын

@@osvaldorubalcava9721 If you cant handle your child dont have one.

@aaronfox5559

2 жыл бұрын

Teachers are just as guilty then, hang one hang all

@westbravo09

2 жыл бұрын

@@aaronfox5559 teachers are not here to take the place of parenting. Society finds everyone and everything else to be responsible for the actions of kids that know better and should have been taught better

@nelson2801

2 жыл бұрын

@@westbravo09 it happened at school and the school staff saw signs and they should have expelled him, the parents I feel are not guilty because they didn’t tel him to do any of it, and why are the parents being charged if the boy is being charged as an adult?

None of this is "stunning." A trouble child exists and conveyed this through words and drawings. Happens every day. A kid's dog died. Happens every day. Friends moved away. Happens every day. Parents gifted child a gun. This is America, so... happens every day. Nothing here is "stunning." If it were, you all would be doing something about it. You'd bother to call your State rep and senator at the least. But you'll just sit there, unperturbed, because none of this is "stunning."

@TheGreenTaco999

2 жыл бұрын

this says a lot about our society

@TurdFurgeson571

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGreenTaco999 It absolutely does. The sad fact is this _should_ be stunning. The headline _should_ move people to a state of semiconsciousness. But it doesn't. At best this is fodder for people to espouse their safest of virtues in the public square -- "I like good things! I'm against bad things! Hear me roar!" Nothing will change. We will meet again in another comment section on another video regarding similar circumstances and the masses will proclaim "Stunned!" again. See you there. Don't forget your popcorn next time.

Is this case located in CA?

The defense will argue that a mother did not know her own child whom she lived with and interacted with daily? Not a solid defense imo...

@BosisofSweden

2 жыл бұрын

I'd say that is the reality of almost any parent of a teenager...

@thelostonetxt8450

2 жыл бұрын

I'd say thatd be the only way they could defend them considering everything we know and all the warnings this was a likely possibility especially after they saw that picture and fought for him to stay without checking anything or seeing if he even had the gun they specifically bought for him and which they knew he had open (I'm talking openess of frickin space)access to at all times

@thebeast8429

2 жыл бұрын

@@BosisofSweden fr, a psychopathic kid like that can be extremely manipulative

@averysrantingsandramblings5874

2 жыл бұрын

No. They will argue that she knew her child, knew he had access to weapons, had an obsession with guns, potentially suffered from mental illness and THEY DID NOTHING. That’s the definition of negligence.

@Kwildcat13

2 жыл бұрын

Well her son should be charged as an adult and if your charging the parents aren’t you saying the kid isn’t at fault

I do not condone what this boy did what he did is terrible and he should spend the rest of his life in jail...but it is heartbreaking to see that this could have been avoided if the parents would have just cared about their son a little bit more...that boy was screaming for help and that morning was the last chance they had to help him and they turn their backs on him it's just devastating!!

@alywi

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! There are so many better suited parents than these. Just terrible. No hope for this kid.

@rickeyfrancisco8067

2 жыл бұрын

QUIT MAKING WHITE EXCUSES, Insurrection

@claudermiller

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Look at him. He's a child. He needed help.

@Everyday_Railroading

2 жыл бұрын

@@rickeyfrancisco8067 - Uhh, what?

@justbrandy8520

2 жыл бұрын

@@rickeyfrancisco8067 how on earth do you find that I'm making "white excuses"! When the shooter, the parents, and victims are all white! I'm sure any parent in the world white,black, Indian whatever would get their child help as soon as they saw a drawing with the screams for help on that paper. It's called good parenting, has nothing to do with race!

Every child deserves a parent but not all parents deserve a child!!! *I hope they rot in jail for this!*

1:30 is this how you do a math quiz???

11 grand behind on their mortgage but the parents somehow found the money to buy their kid a gun. SMH.

Ethan's parents failed their child.. now, society has to care for this damaged child whose future was torpedoed due to horrid parenting! So very sad.

@JaneCooper190072

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, plus it will be hard to prosecute the parents. I have no idea what charge they're going to try them for

@pbase36

2 жыл бұрын

Ya know, I never hear this kind of "that poor troubled child" talk for black and Latino kids when they commit acts less heinous than this. why is that?

@In-house444

2 жыл бұрын

@@JaneCooper190072 I should think that’s obvious considering their bond

@superafrikanmedialabs8237

2 жыл бұрын

@@pbase36 I think you know why.

@katbar6066

2 жыл бұрын

@@superafrikanmedialabs8237 I think their question was a rhetoric one.

Such a horrible situation 😔😣😔😖💔💔💔💔💔🥀

Happy New Year to them and their family

In this day and age you need a license for everything except for the most important job ever, being a parent! Any idiot can become one when many don't have the skills to be a good parent!

@PR7-82

2 жыл бұрын

That why we call them the Crummy Crumbleys!

@davidgarris2513

2 жыл бұрын

Mandatory sterilization programs for anyone under 115 IQ.

@ricks.1318

2 жыл бұрын

AMEN .......

@kittycat8222

2 жыл бұрын

They are passing a law to let 21 and older to carry a gun without a license. Soon. Very soon.

@dawnywarthog6642

2 жыл бұрын

So, true. Not all people are meant to be parent's. I'm 53 and chose not to have children for many reasons. I didn't want to find out the hard way if I was a bad parent.

Nobody is talking about how the school is responsible as well. They should have taken greater action to ensure he did not come back

@PATUZI

2 жыл бұрын

Best reply for sure Kiara, lock them up.

@oranjmusemeyer968

2 жыл бұрын

Technically, he hadn't done anything worthy of disciplinary action yet. If they suspended every student over a drawing, it would cause huge problems. Plus, legally it's not possible. Students have rights as well. I am playing the other side of the coin here, but what exactly had he done that warranted removal? He hadn't hurt another student YET, and a drawing doesn't infringe on the rights of other student's educational process. One of my former students murdered his mother, chopped her head, hands and feet off and dumped her torso off of a remote highway. The student had no friends, no one in my class wanted him in their group work assignments and no one wanted to next to him. But... he was new, we had not received his records yet, saying that I went to the counseling office twice over issues I thought needed attention and he refused to talk to the counselor. Technically, he had done nothing wrong, but he was strange and gave everyone the creeps. You can't remove a student for making the hair on the back of your neck stand up! Legally he had done nothing violating the school's code of conduct! I used to have my students journal everyday in class... sometimes they wrote some pretty dark stuff, sometimes I found out personal things about a student that made me cry but you can not judge a person for something they not yet done. Now, his parents should never have given him a gun, that is true... if they are making the claim he was depressed then they knew there was a problem! I have seen my fair share of bad behavior from students, I was an intervention teacher for part of my career... but none of those kids ever killed anybody. My point is, how do you judge when behavior has yet to happen?

@jsmithepa

2 жыл бұрын

With the history of school shootings, one would think they should had done more, so yeah I blame them too.

@gamersens2363

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Even if the school didn’t suspend they still had more than enough reasoning to search his bag and locker. From what I read the gun was in his backpack. Either or that drawing he did is more than enough to search the kid.

@YT4Me57

2 жыл бұрын

They did what was permitted by Department of Education protocol and law.

When I was the kids age my parents wouldn’t buy me a set of mechanic tools let alone a gun……..

@Notmyname-co5sc

2 жыл бұрын

Not all kids are like that. I had access to all kinds of guns. My friends had access to guns. 75 percent of my school growing up had guns. Nothing like this has ever happened. Not saying it cant. But, the simple act of buying your kid a firearm isnt unheard of nor inherently bad. Its the parents. And, media.

This is going to be a crazy slippery slope.

Let's remember that the parents also took out $4,000 in cash from the bank. They were going to leave and just let their son sit in jail. Wonderful parents. I hope that the judge DOESN'T reduce the bond.

@violentvioletvengeance5616

2 жыл бұрын

BS story Crisis Actors!!!

@eckankar7756

2 жыл бұрын

bizarre they had that cash in the bank and so behind on mortgage payments.

@mrjones2721

2 жыл бұрын

@@eckankar7756 There’s a point when you’re so behind that you stop paying everything and save up what you can to make it through the inevitable bankruptcy.

Not “allegedly” he did it. He shot those kids.

@breann7913

2 жыл бұрын

Yea but they can't say that tell he's been convicted!

@MollyHuffle

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone knows but they will get sued if they don’t use “allegedly”.

@johnwilson6707

2 жыл бұрын

until he is found guilty it is allegedly thats the law in your country unless it is a cop then the law do not apply as they are not treated the same as has been proved in many shootings

@CL-io6wg

2 жыл бұрын

@@MollyHuffle right...on the other hand Joe biden could call him a white supremacist before court hearings

@MollyHuffle

2 жыл бұрын

@@CL-io6wg 100% true.

The fact the faculty and the parrents who had the morning meeting let him go back to class after seeing his math paper is baffling! they should never see the light of day.

The only kids I feel bad for are the murdered, and the surviving victims. I feel particularly bad for this one kid who lost his dad to alcohol abuse a month before, and then 1 month later, had to witness Ethan gunning down his classmates in the halls and was forced to run for his life. His friend was shot to death. I cannot imagine being that kid and having so many losses in such a short period of time. I worry for his mental health, because he is traumatized by what he saw in the hallway. I really hope that kid has his mom’s support and a good support system overall. I now understand why the prosecutor added the terrorism charge. Those poor kids will never be able to unsee what they witnessed that day.

With this new information, raise their bond to 1 million a piece. Lock them up. They are a danger to the community.

My heart aches so bad for the victims. So many beautiful and kind people killed. Pure evil and reckless parents.

@wadestak

2 жыл бұрын

Their kid as well. Prosecutors say that he tortured animals and decapitated a baby bird and put its head in a jar to place in the school’s bathroom.

@kingofkingsmoonpie4075

2 жыл бұрын

🐂💩

@glowblank17

2 жыл бұрын

@@wadestak, *GLAD they sh0t up the school 🤠!*

@michaelvigh926

2 жыл бұрын

Nasty Bitch, the kid was trying to reach out to all. Pictures, words etc.... Immediately should have been interviewed by a professional counsellor and expelled.

@alvaroakatico9188

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelvigh926 The parents were against it because that’s what the school suggested.

Stunning

Normal parents Christmas present: video game, socks, $50. These parents: G U N

Since their house is gone and they are a flight risk, they may as well just stay in jail.

@ladygreyheart2012

2 жыл бұрын

@@TugIronChief After the drawings of dead bodies were found, Ethan's mother texted him saying "I am not mad at you. LOL. You need to learn not to get caught". The parents KNEW their kid was deeply disturbed, they CHOSE to do nothing. Far too many people are spawing kids that they can't/won't take care of it. It isn't society's job to take care of these people's screwed up kids.

The parents bought the handgun 4 days before the shooting as an early “Christmas “ gift for the killer. They knew the son was unstable. The gun was in the killer’s backpack when the parents insisted the boy remain in school. The “mom” sent a text to her son : “don’t do it”. They knew he had the gun.

@JasonDrennen

2 жыл бұрын

Obviously you didn't listen. The gun was locked up and hidden. The mom texted the boys so he wouldn't commit suicide. What is she supposed to do text him and say kill yourself. The brains of some people.

@ericrivera8410

2 жыл бұрын

@@JasonDrennen better he kill himself than innocent kids on school.

@shari9721

2 жыл бұрын

@@JasonDrennen If you actually thought your child was going to kill themself don't you think you would do a hell of a lot more than sending a lousy text saying "don't do it" ? It is absolutely sickening, pathetic and extremely sad that she didn't even care enough or couldn't even be bothered to even put out the effort to CALL him , to tell him how much she loves him , to keep him talking , reassuring him, as she was driving as fast as possible to get to her child. smdh

@shari9721

2 жыл бұрын

@@JasonDrennen if the gun was PROPERLY locked up and hidden then how did he get it and have it in his bag ?

@rexman971

2 жыл бұрын

@NickRichardson your the piece of shit for thinking these two deserve as much punishment as the killer.

I thought the school cld his mother and she WOULDN'T PICK HIM UP. She said leave him there.. They both could have prevented this if they got him HELP he so badly needed. Sad how parent's don't care anymore about their children. My deepest condolences to everyone who lost a loved one that day and to others who will suffer everyday of their lives do to this horrific act of violence.

I'm so happy to hear about them being charged.

So after they already fled, they promise they're not gonna flee?

@daniellebrooks7510

2 жыл бұрын

Good point

@ScarletBrimstone

2 жыл бұрын

Soooo, getting death threats, dealing with defamation, and being fearful for your life means you should stay put and possibly have someone break in and do something? I get that they had warrants out, but they were already in hiding before they were issued. Remember that the media spins EVERYTHING.

@kingaugstar3796

2 жыл бұрын

@@ScarletBrimstone they gave him the gun knowing he was depressed let them rot

@ScarletBrimstone

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingaugstar3796 you realize that teens mask, cover up, and hide their emotional problems, right? Most parents don't realize that their kid is depressed. In addition, teens will make excuses and cover stories to hide it if people catch wind of their problems, too. So, let's not act like we know the inner workings of this particular family unit and go on a witch hunt.

@kingaugstar3796

2 жыл бұрын

@@ScarletBrimstone they knew it they got the report before he shot up the school they didn't take him home when they were told

If I was the Judge, I would double their bond, just because they already fled once.

If I'm a teacher and saw disturbing drawings I'll call both the popo and the parents!

so sickening

They couldn't pay for their mortgage payment but they paid for the new gun! They don't know how to do the right thing ( at least they could buy a new family dog) very disappointed

@PR7-82

2 жыл бұрын

That why we call them the Crummy Crumbleys!

the horribly sad thing is that this whole tragedy could have all been avoided if those sorry excuse for parents actually took the mental health of their son seriously

@KellyCeleste

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. And honestly, I feel like they are more liable in this than he is. Yes, he did horrific things and took the lives of others. But, he was screaming out for help. And even just that morning, he was denied access to help. His being only 15 years old makes me more confident that he has a chance of rehabilitation than his parents do. They should have taken care of him and his needs, and they didn’t. That’s likely a huge factor in the reasons that this happened. And it’s heartbreaking.

@tira2145

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, and if the sorry excuse of a school employees would have done there job. A quick search for a gun would have saved so many and then the kid would be arrested and gotten help.

@violentvioletvengeance5616

2 жыл бұрын

BS story Crisis Actors!!!

@JonCollinsMedia

2 жыл бұрын

The school staff failed him as well. There were red flags that got ignored. What a shame, I thought we've learned by now.

@KellyCeleste

2 жыл бұрын

@@tira2145 I haven’t seen it reported that the gun was in the backpack or that the school failed to search the backpack. I don’t think we know that information yet. Also, let’s put the blame on the ones responsible…the PARENTS left when they were told that he needed to be evaluated by a mental health professional. While I don’t know that the school did everything appropriately…I do know that the PARENTS hold the responsibility for that. They shouldn’t have been allowed to leave without him. That’s on them.

i just had the thought of those drawings being his last cry for help and deciding to just give up after that

How can you be 11k behind in your mortgage yet use money to buy your kid a weapon?

The judge should tell them to STFU and double their bonds.

@howiescott5865

2 жыл бұрын

REMANDED.... NO BAIL...

"The thoughts won't stop." Oh, that breaks my heart. He was reaching out for help, the teacher addressed it and his parents brushed it off. My prayers for the victims' families.

@royharper2003

2 жыл бұрын

he sounded suicidal

@yoshikirby101

2 жыл бұрын

@@royharper2003 he definitely was and not only that he was lonely it seems as well. They said he only had one friend and they moved away

@Mama-du6hp

2 жыл бұрын

The school should have baker acted him at that point. They could’ve done something too to help this poor child. Mental health is a serious issue.

@kaceeharrison3715

2 жыл бұрын

He did not reach out for help. He wrote those thoughts down a scribbled them out. That isn't asking for help. He knew exactly what he was doing. This is a terrible kid who has no sympathy for the people he murdered and you shouldn't feel bad for him.

@tira2145

2 жыл бұрын

The school brushed it off to. When will there be charges against them?

How come they didn’t say that “this is a video game” was also written on his work sheet?

@Nuhbuddys

2 жыл бұрын

Because. It doesn't fit the narrative. I wonder what would have happened to Tarantino, or any other "violent" director had sketched any ideas for their movies down.

We cannot fix this.

"They won't skip town"? Weren't these two hiding from the police before getting arrested? Nah, I'd increase the bond if anything lol

@TheGreenTaco999

2 жыл бұрын

bond should either be free or not exist, it's a get out of jail free card for the rich

@rexman971

2 жыл бұрын

Just because they didn't run to the police when they called them in doesn't mean they where running. I mean your going to prison why would you follow the rules when your already a criminal for no reason.

This whole situation is absolutely tragic. So heartbreaking this all could have been avoided. Hard up on money/ selling everything/ yet buys a gun? Gives the kid the gun who is absolutely depressed? So many bad decisions...! They all deserve serious jail time and contemplation on what they all did.

@jamesbroomfield7799

2 жыл бұрын

The sad part is the kid was literally giving warning signs minutes and hours prior to the shooting. But the parents didn't seem to gaf. That drawing should've been the last straw. Kid was basically telling everyone what he was about to do. And the parents just shrugged it off. Makes you wonder if the parents were depressed and wanted other ppl to suffer but allowed their son to cause the suffering instead of themselves

@charlieangel9705

2 жыл бұрын

They probably give him a gun so the kid will shoot himself? Irresponsible parents.

@freespeech469

2 жыл бұрын

You like to blame people. How about blaming the fucking school for putting him back into the classroom?

@freespeech469

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlieangel9705 shooting is a sport and you’re a fucking idiot! Two facts.

@charlieangel9705

2 жыл бұрын

@@freespeech469 Sending you a tight hug this holiday season. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! ❤️🤗

"not a flight risk" 😂😂😂😂😂😂

The teacher held on to the “evidence”? Why isn’t the teacher being held accountable for the boy’s actions when she held on for his cry’s for help.

Who the fu*k buys their homicidal son a firearm?! This boy didn’t hide his ill intentions!!!! May these parents get LIFE

@hotel_arcadia

2 жыл бұрын

Chances are, they were expecting the son to kill himself so they wouldn't have to deal with him.

@andmicbro1

2 жыл бұрын

Who tf buys any kid a gun, let alone a mentally unstable kid? Couple of psychos.

@otallono

2 жыл бұрын

and then complains about taking the fall for their actions.. in most cases parents probably wouldn't want their son to go to prison so they would trade positions, of course you can't normally do that. They should be happy for the fact that they can.

@alelectric2767

2 жыл бұрын

@@hotel_arcadia This is an excellent take.

@hotel_arcadia

2 жыл бұрын

@@alelectric2767 That sarcasm?

Just so you know the parents are arguing that they never gave Ethan access to the gun unsupervised, that the gun was locked in a safe, and Ethan must of found the key to the safe without them knowing... Complete BS! The kid had Complete access to that gun! He was taking photos of the gun on his bed and posting them on social media. The mom said she bought the gun for Ethan..

@joeschmoe7951

2 жыл бұрын

Why does this matter? What if he used a car or a bat, or a knife? Do they kill you less than a gun? Would you have charged the parents if he used something other than a gun? You going to charge parents cause they didn't hide the car keys? Think man think!!

@justrosy5

2 жыл бұрын

Just so you know, it's "must have," not "must of.". Get off the Internet - you're too young to be on here if you didn't already know that.

@christyhoehn8244

2 жыл бұрын

@@justrosy5 - love the grammar police ! ❤️

@swallman

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't matter, they can't be prosecuted criminally, civilly yes.

@Lisa-pb3qp

2 жыл бұрын

@@swallman No they are being prosecuted by the their state. Most assuredly.

tartarus: you've drawn quite a crowd

Everyone should be held accountable

They the type of parents that get mad at you, when u tell them that their child is being bad.

It’s crazy how a trucker lost his breaks, crashed and got 100 years. We see hear how these parents bought their son a GUN, and took it to school and killed 4 people. They are asking for a small bond, this is BS, give all of them 100 years without any possibility of parole.

@COlson-rh3dg

2 жыл бұрын

Boo hoo. No one here has been sentenced yet.

@germanshepherd6638

2 жыл бұрын

Lost his breaks? How do you lose your breaks? 🤔

@insertname193

2 жыл бұрын

It was an excessive sentence, but he didn’t just lose his brakes. There’s a lot more to that incident. The guy deserves at least 5 years per death for his negligence.

@TeslaOG

2 жыл бұрын

@@COlson-rh3dg doesn’t matter there is enough evidence that they will all get 25 to life in due time. Then they will all be killed in prison. Watch and see.

@RacerMP1

2 жыл бұрын

@@germanshepherd6638 down hill, brakes can overheat and lose grip on the drum. It's a common issue. That's how you lose brakes.

How can you hold someone accountable for a crime someone else committed.

"best friend moved away, family dog died..." lmfao

I think the school should be held responsible also for not doing anything and sending him back to the room...

@juliaweber212

2 жыл бұрын

I agree because the school knew the day before it's not just the parents the school is responsible

@JohnFKennedy420

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@amandasprague717

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@ebo7310

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@Eric95372

2 жыл бұрын

If they knew he had a gun available to him … absolutely. But no one wants to believe someone is going to shoot up a school. The parents knew he had access to gun that is a different case

Any kid who tortures or harms animals is already showing the signs of pychopathy and steps should be taken to prevent him from harming any more animals or people. These parents were so neglectful, they raised a psychopath, and bought him a gun and took him out shooting. What did they expect would happen???

@PR7-82

2 жыл бұрын

That why we call them the Crummy Crumbleys!

@terrell172

2 жыл бұрын

Next time I hope it ends with parents dead in murder suicide by gun toting sun...the tragedy of it all

@FLdancer00

2 жыл бұрын

This how the world keeps getting tortured by psychopaths, parents refusing to see the signs & lock those kids up.

They said the judge will struggle to make this decision to reduce their bond? There shouldn't even be a blink-of-an-eye for that judge to refuse the lowered bail oh, what a ridiculous statement. That judge should hold these parents accountable on such a high level I can't even find the words as these parents are negligent in every way! PERIOD!

this makes me so sad i grew up here and i would have never thought this could happen but a lot of parents here just really dont care

Ethan’s mom: don’t do it Ethan”. Moms attorney: lIt wasn’t in reference to shooting up the school it was instead urging him not to kill himself after shooting up the school”… Me: excuse me, Pardon me, but you wanna argue that she didn’t know..you just told us she did know..are you listening to yourself sir??

@alexrussell8358

2 жыл бұрын

she knew it because it was already on the radio.

@brandybader9063

2 жыл бұрын

What the son did was 100% wrong, however she didnt text him that until after the shooting started and they figured out it was her kid. What he did was monstrous, but its still her kid and no mother is going to want their child to kill themselves.

@serenitybrown2741

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandybader9063 I can’t vouch for whether this is 100% true but the mother of Dylan Klebold claims she prayed that he would die so he wouldn’t hurt more people at Columbine. I think it’s probably more natural to be disgusted than protective

@brandybader9063

2 жыл бұрын

@@serenitybrown2741 it's built intonour DNA to love and protect our kids. Some people are built differently, however you can't fault a mother for not wanting her child dead.

@michaelkabler9276

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandybader9063 I read some of your comments. You have common sense. Life is gonna be really hard for you because no one else does. You can show them a video of everything you are saying and they still wouldn't understand. The proof of that is.... this video they watched and These comments they are making. But don't give up brandy. Hopefully common sense become contagious. I don't know every view you have on this but what I have seen I agree with. I'll put what I believe here too. Parents should get some sort of neglect and endangerment and not be allowed around kids. Teachers and the school faculty who are involved and any that had knowledge of this situation should get neglect, multiple child endangerment charges and not be allowed to work around kids. Kid should receive death penalty same as he gave to the kids. To be carried out within 3 months. That's time to suffer waiting. And not wasting too many tax dollars on him. You probably don't agree with all that. But that is all just what I feel is the minimum punishments should be. Really think they should let each parent of each kid murdered or injured or even anyone that had a kid or relative they was worried about in the school spend 30 minutes with him individually with no penalty for whatever they decide to do. And if they didn't take care of him then anyone that wanted to got 30 minutes with him. Same penalty every child killer should face.

Just like the shooter's mom in Sandy hook, she knew he had emotional baggage, but thought it was a good idea, to buy him a gun!😢😢😢

@hill1542

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong, in Sandy Hook he took a family members gun, he was also 21, six years older than this situation. In this situation he is only 15 and was bought his own handgun by his parents

I hope the charges stick, an example needs to be made…can’t let parents knowing raise murderers and buy them a gun.

I have the feeling they want to either flee or take their own life’s. I hope the judge doesn’t reduce the bond. They need to be accounted for the bad parenting they did !

If they knew their child was depressed and thought he might hurt himself, why the F did they get him a gun? doesnt make sense.

@joemoody2626

2 жыл бұрын

At all almost like there being scapegoats

@jusletursoulglobaby

2 жыл бұрын

it makes sense. he liked guns. they live in a hunting state. he was sad. parents buy things when their kids are sad. the end.

@kellygervais3440

2 жыл бұрын

Making of a monster by Jennifer and James Crumbley, poor kid never stood a chance...

@christinacody5845

2 жыл бұрын

@@jusletursoulglobaby A handgun is NOT a hunting gun. The only reason to have that kind of weapon is either defensive or offensive, not for hunting food. The teen used it for offense and took innocent lives.

@jusletursoulglobaby

2 жыл бұрын

@@christinacody5845 first off, relax. second, consider reading slower. I never said the gun type bozo. I responded to "make sense" of what OP could not.

What upsets me about all of this is his parents failed him. What he did was wrong and there’s no excuse; however, it could have been prevented if the right steps were taken. Every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves their kid. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their family. I hope justice will prevail on this earth towards the kid and his parents and they get what they deserve.

@oceanstaiga5928

2 жыл бұрын

Most of these kind of things could be prevented if there were people taking a child’s issues seriously and report threats to law enforcement…

@noahhuveneers1602

2 жыл бұрын

School busted him multiple times, i think everyone failed miserably in this case.

@violentvioletvengeance5616

2 жыл бұрын

@@noahhuveneers1602 BS story Crisis Actors!!!

@chastitylampkin6028

2 жыл бұрын

The right steps, this kid was in a deep deep depression, the notes were shown that one of his friends moved away, plus his sweet dog 🐕 had just died, then he felt the whole wide world is dead in so many ways which this world is really at the end in so many ways, so he decided to take out some class mates,which was not right at all , the parents should have not got him these guns,this don't make no sense on the parents parts why these parents asking for a lower bond ❓❓ but rest in peace to these kids that r gone 2 heaven along with Kentucky tragedy 😭🕊️🕊️✌️✌️✌️✌️😭😭😭🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹😭😭🕊️🕊️☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️🕊️🕊️🕊️☮️☮️✌️✌️✌️🕊️☮️🕊️🌹🌹🌹🌹🕊️☮️🌹🌹🌹🌹🕊️☮️

@noahhuveneers1602

2 жыл бұрын

@@violentvioletvengeance5616 Bro, in a differeng video about this case they said the teachers found him on a schoolcomputer looking at guns etc. Where in the world is this BS. Parents have failed and this case, basically almost all cases, school failed too.

How come that teacher and administrator aren’t being held accountable for not removing the shooter?

Imagine what their own parents think lol